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Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday at Alex

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Curry here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for

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spending your Saturday afternoon with Carmeen

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and me. Happy NFL Draft Day

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three. We're currently in the

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fifth round, and you guys, remember,

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don't sleep on these late round

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picks, because what we had the goat Tom

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Brady, who was a sixth round pick.

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As Carmen just reminded me, he won't let you ever forget

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that.

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I'll let you ever forget it. Pick number one ninety nine.

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We go brock Purty, very last in

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the draft.

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Who irrelevant quotation

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marks not so irrelevant after all.

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We can't call that mister irrelevant anymore

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after that. But what an emotional couple of

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days, right, I love seeing these big men

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cry, especially in the first couple of rounds,

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going on stage picking up Roger

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Goodell and just kind of swinging him

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around like.

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It's just or you get the guys that are

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completely stone faced and like the second and third

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rounds who thought they were should be taken in the first.

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Yeah, they're all like their families.

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I like pipe them up and they're just completely

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like.

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No, I didn't go where I wanted to go. So no,

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I'm upset. It's like, Bro, you

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were yourself.

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You were fine, you were drafted, you were drafted.

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You're in the NFL, like you were drafted into

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the NFL. Now prove it. I get

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it because it's like you.

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Said, hey, use all the motivation you can get what

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signing bonus isn't going to be as big each

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round that you go down, So like, I kind of understand

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that, but just like.

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But if you ball out, then you don't have that fifth

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year option on the table, and if you're

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not in the first round, so they get paid.

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Earlier silver linings, but not on yourself.

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And it's like, come on, like,

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appreciate the moment. It's your entire

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life's work and dreams coming true

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in this moment. So yeah, I don't

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know. We've got some great guests for you guys today. We

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got NFL writer Nick Shok joining

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us in thirty minutes to talk all things draft.

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We have Lions reporter Danny Rogers joining us

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live from Detroit.

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Have you been to the horse races out here yet?

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I haven't yet. Actually, it's weird, weird

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enough.

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We lived here when I was like six, oh,

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and we used to live right by the Santa Anita Ratio.

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Oh okay, so as a child,

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it's a time I've been to.

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Saner Okay, so we should go back.

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Yeah.

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I remember placing, like placing a bat again

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in quotation marks, Like going up to the little window with my dad

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and being like, I think this horse is gonna win.

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I mean that's all I feel. Anyway, I'm like, what is the coolest name?

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Yeah, that's what I'm gonna go for all right,

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Well back to the draft, you guys, because

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let's be honest, Detroit nailed

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the vibe.

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Day one draft attendance was

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a record.

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More than two hundred and seventy five thousand

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people were there for Day one. The previous

3:12

record was two hundred thousand in Nashville and twenty

3:14

eighteen. They had legends come out.

3:16

They had Eminem, they had Megatron, they had

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Barry Sanders and current.

3:19

Guys Anna Hutchinson. You had Domin Ross

3:22

and Brown fresh off that contract. Yes, you

3:24

had Jared Goff.

3:24

The entire crowd it was like still

3:26

like figuring out the contracts that need, yeah,

3:29

help me do after this season.

3:30

But it was really funny because Amen Ross Saint Brown got

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up there and started the Jared Goff chant.

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Yeah.

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I also happened to think, I mean, all those guys

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looked like they were two three, four shots

3:39

and I love it.

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For as honestly, well, it's a party.

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Day two, they had the National Chances Michigan

3:44

football team walk up to the stage

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with the trophy, which minus JJ

3:49

McCarthy because he was like already at his destination,

3:52

which is okay, but let's start the show

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with the biggest WTF

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surprises in the draft,

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and I think everybody

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had this same reaction the

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Atlanta Falcons taking Washington quarterback

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Michael PENNOCKX junior with the eighth overall

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pick. But Penni's being a top quarterback

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isn't. The WTF surprise

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is the fact that the Falcons just signed and paid

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Kirk Cousins a four year, one hundred and

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eighty million dollar contract

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with one hundred million guaranteed.

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So you would think if they're in that win now super

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Bowl mentality or bust, they

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would go out, maybe get them some weapons. But

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once the initial I think kind

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of that shock war off and

4:35

you start to really think about it. I

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don't have a problem with Atlanta stocking up

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on the most important position

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in the league, especially with

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how stack this draft class was. Kirk

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Cousins is coming off a major

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injury. This is insurance for

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their future. What I do find

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weird was all the conversation that they

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said, Hey, we're gonna tell kirk Cousins

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if we decide to drop a quarterback, and then

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word came out that that didn't happen.

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No, he was not call when they were on the

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clock about to make the pick.

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Yeah, so you already have a little

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bit of miscommunication, possible awkwardness

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with Kirk on a new team

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in a new city and knowing that he is immediately

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training his replacement.

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I don't like anything about this. I

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don't like it from a team building standpoint. I think

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it's irresponsible to if you are

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in win now mode, which again you

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look like you are, especially given how weak the NFC

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South is supposed to be, you have a

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chance at the field, even with the NFC

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in general. Why you

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go out and get the one hundred eighty million dollar quarterback

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and then you don't help him out

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with the first overall pick your best

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case scenario, And what Terry Fontna said

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was that we're cool if he doesn't

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play for the next four or five years. So you're going to forego

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the biggest cheat code in the NFL, which

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is having a quarterback on a rookie deal in

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favor of paying a core taking this

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guy but not getting not

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getting Kirk Cousins some help in the first round. And

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if you knew that you were going to draft

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a quarterback, or if there was a chance

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you were going to draft a quarterback, why

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in the world do you pay Kirk Cousins not

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only that one hundred million guaranteed, ninety million

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of that guaranteed came when he signed

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on.

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The dotted line.

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Yeah, like you are paying that, Like that

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is insane for a quote unquote

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bridge quarterback now, which is what Kirk

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kirk Cousins has been, no matter how many years

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that bridge ends up being.

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I totally understand why Kirk is.

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Pissed because he's or why he's mad

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because he said I

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needed help, I need

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help right now. And then if

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you're Michael Pennix Junior, I

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feel bad for him too, because he is not a developmental

6:47

prospect like JJ McCarthy or everybody

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likes to compare.

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The situation to join Love and the Packers.

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First of all, packer'sn't the only ones that can get

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away with sitting a guy

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for.

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Three years at ben Rogers.

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And also you had Aaron Rodgers for a long

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time. He started on a decline when you drafted

7:02

Jordan Love. Now he went and had two MVP seasons

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after that, but he was on a decline.

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Also, you don't have ownership pressures like you

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do everywhere else when you when you're

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Green Bay.

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So I don't like comparing those two situations.

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I don't like this for Michael Pennox Junior because he's an older

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quarterback prospect with injury issues as well.

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He would do well to play right away, and

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now you're gonna let him sit and get cold,

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and then what come into the league at twenty six

7:26

years old in a couple of years

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when you can get out of Kirk Cousins contract. I

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don't like anything about this. I don't think this is a

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smart team building at all. Now,

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if Kirk gets injured, yeah,

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and that makes sense.

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And he is coming off a major

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injury, why did Why did

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you? Because they needed someone They probably didn't know

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if they were going to be able to get a quarterback

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that they liked on the board.

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With a A.

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I get that. I just don't understand.

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Again, they're not going to be.

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This was Rahie Morris's

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quote, not knowing if they're going to be able to pick

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this high again because of the guy that they got in

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Kirk Custins.

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Again, so makes it weird

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that you spent a top ten pick on something

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that wasn't going to help you win.

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Now, if you think you're going to be good.

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They said, Kirk is our quarterback, but adding

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Michael Pennix is thinking about our future.

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So again, like it doesn't.

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The initial shock was like wait, why,

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wtf, like you

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just got this. But the

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silver lining in all of this,

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like it could be good for his development.

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You never know how a rookie quarterback

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is going to do that first year

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in the league. And he's not being asked to be a savior

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like Caleb Jaden, Drake may JJ and bow

8:41

nixar right, he is going to be sitting behind

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a veteran quarterback who was well liked

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in this league and who has had success.

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Now again, the awkward part

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is Kirk was not aware of this and he is in a

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new situation, a new locker

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room, on a new team. But the

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good news we all know Kirk is a great

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guy, like if you you've personally worked

9:01

with him. But for all of us, we got

9:03

to see kind of behind the curtain on the Quarterback

9:06

Series, and I think everyone really fell in love

9:08

with Kirk there. And then we heard from

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Pennix recently who

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shared that he actually had a conversation

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with Kirk.

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I'm gonna keep it, you know, just between me and him

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right now, you know, but it was definitely a good

9:21

conversation, and you know, I'm super excited

9:23

to work with him. And he said he's the

9:25

same with me.

9:26

So I mean, he said, what you

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have to say. I was gonna say, but that's

9:30

all you say in

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this moment.

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I again, I'm gonna say

9:37

this. I still do not like it.

9:39

Also, now, say

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Kirk does struggle a little bit, Yeah,

9:44

because he has thirty six coming off an achilles

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injury.

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Yeah, now is how it is?

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This is biggest injury he's ever recovered from.

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Yes, yeah, this is the biggest injury you can recover

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from in the NFL.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't know why we're treating it like there's a whole

9:56

conversation for another time. Is who

9:58

Kirk Cousins says as a quarterback and what you're going to

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get from him coming off an injury like this that we're kind

10:02

of dismissing.

10:03

But so maybe that's what they saw.

10:05

Maybe that's what they saw it.

10:06

Maybe that's why in the back of their mind we're

10:08

like, Okay, we have our guy, but then you have someone

10:10

then you don't we need sell dollars

10:13

on Kirk cut irresponsible there Again.

10:15

That's what Kirk gets.

10:16

He always gets the biggest contracts he has

10:18

like an insane agent.

10:21

Atlanta didn't have to Atlanta,

10:24

what didn't have to be the one to pay him.

10:25

But that's probably how they got him. That's

10:27

how they.

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Got him, That's what I'm saying. But they needed someone,

10:30

and I don't think they knew what

10:32

they were going to.

10:33

Do pick eight.

10:34

I get that's a little out of whatever the

10:37

top three conversation, but there

10:39

are things that you can if you need

10:41

a quarterback at that point, go get a bridge. Also,

10:43

they have Jacoby Brissette, don't they,

10:46

And like he is a bridge quarterback,

10:48

you already have that. Also, I like him, So

10:51

I don't think this.

10:52

Chance, well, this is future.

10:54

The best case scenario is that Kirk

10:56

does really really well. Yeah, then

10:59

you waste Michael Penick Junior's contract,

11:02

You've wasted his age, You've wasted

11:04

a top ten pick where you could have gotten

11:07

better.

11:07

I don't think you're wasting him because all he's going

11:09

to do is learn and develop behind correct

11:12

behind your contract, And like

11:15

is it bad to like that is the most

11:17

important position in the league

11:20

and now you're you're like rich in that position,

11:22

Like that's like the.

11:24

Play two quarterbacks at the same time.

11:26

That's nothing like being rich at the wide receiver

11:28

position is awesome because you can play multiple

11:30

wide receivers and you can ensure against

11:32

injury. You cannot play multiple quarterbacks, and

11:34

if you do, then you There's

11:36

a saying that I got from coaches all the

11:38

time, if you have two quarterbacks, you have none.

11:40

And that's so true because, like I said,

11:43

if Kirk struggles, now you've got a guy

11:45

on the bench that people are like, bring in Penis,

11:47

bring in Panics, bring in Penick.

11:48

You're saying, they turn the locker room, and it turns the fans

11:50

against like the entire ordinary.

11:52

It creates a quarterback competition where there doesn't need

11:54

to be one, which then makes these guys feel

11:56

like they have to go out.

11:57

There and just sling

11:59

it all all the time.

12:00

I watched this with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jameis

12:02

Winston in Tampa Bay. Yeah,

12:05

and it was so true. If you have two

12:07

quarterbacks, you have none. I

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again, I'm I totally am on

12:12

board with Kirk being pissed because you

12:14

didn't do something to help the team right away.

12:16

I totally I would understand.

12:17

I Michael Pennix Junior was pissed because I don't think that this

12:19

is a good situation for him. I think he needed

12:22

to play now and again

12:24

because he's older. Yeah, Also he

12:26

has injury issues. He's had multiple

12:28

knee surgeries. So you're gonna take a

12:30

guy that's.

12:31

Maybe that's good. He's getting

12:33

a little exa.

12:34

He's a year removed from both of those, so that's why he

12:36

didn't run it at Washington. He wasn't like, I

12:38

think you rushed for eight He rushed eight

12:41

times. Yeah last year

12:43

for Washington, which okay, so he's

12:45

now a year removed from that.

12:46

You want to play. Oh so if you're a top

12:48

ten pick, you want to play.

12:50

Of course he does great place.

12:52

I don't want to do anything about this. I

12:54

don't like anything about it. You cannot change

12:56

my mind. It's not good team building.

12:58

No, but it happened, So it happened.

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So I try to do is find the silver lining, because

13:02

you can't change it.

13:03

What's done is done.

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It.

13:05

It was a WTF moment, every

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fan reaction, every media reaction.

13:10

I thought one of the shocking moments in the top ten

13:12

was going to be a crazy trade.

13:13

Up, and we didn't get that. And then we

13:16

believed quarterbacks taken in the top twelve,

13:18

like it was.

13:19

There were so many things that, like I

13:22

thought might happen, I

13:24

did not think. I don't

13:26

think anybody had the Falcons taking a quarterback

13:29

at number eight on the Bengo card.

13:30

Actually, Jonathan Jones did a week before from CBS

13:32

Sports is a friend of mine, and I was like, did you really

13:34

call that?

13:35

He's like called it a week ago and I was like, that's did

13:37

he call Penix? He called Penix to the

13:39

Falcons at that pick?

13:41

It was, Yeah, I think that maybe there was some

13:43

insider knowledge there, which I guess.

13:45

Hey, listen to John.

13:46

Jan that's the only one, love jj

13:49

I.

13:49

I mean the fact that

13:52

this is what we're talking about and not the fact that Bonex

13:54

is a top twelve pig is kind of wild.

13:56

Also, okay, so you think that's a WTF

13:59

moment, is both being a top twelve pick. Although

14:01

I mean, he had the most college experience out if any

14:03

quarterback projected this year, sixty

14:05

one games in his last season

14:07

at Oregon, second and passing yard's most passing

14:10

touchdown.

14:10

He was a Heisman finalists.

14:12

A statue can't he's

14:15

not He's not like an athletic

14:18

enough, when you're looking at this quarterback class,

14:20

he doesn't really have an upside because you're right,

14:22

he has played a lot.

14:24

I think he's a great player, don't get

14:26

me wrong.

14:27

And in any other quarterback class, especially when you're talking

14:29

a couple like last even maybe not last

14:31

year two years ago, especially though where you had

14:33

one quarterback go in the first round. Yeah, you would see Bonix

14:35

be a first round pick. Yeah,

14:38

but he's the oldest quarterback in this class, so you know exactly

14:40

what you're getting from him. I do

14:42

not understand making

14:44

him a top twelve pick even later in the first

14:47

round would have been more. But at the same

14:49

time, if you're surprised by this, then

14:51

you don't know Sean Payton.

14:52

Yeah, he said that was his offense.

14:54

Like all Also, Sean

14:56

Payton is going to be bullish about

14:58

anybody and point they weren't

15:01

able to do to do the deal to trade

15:03

up, yeah, to get anybody else.

15:05

So now you he

15:08

needs.

15:08

To get the postgame or the postgame the post

15:10

draft presser of Sean Payton

15:12

saying, like you know, he said all the right things

15:14

about after they met with Bo Nicks and he was like, oh,

15:16

this is like that, that was nuts, Like he's

15:18

really got something.

15:20

I don't. It's

15:23

it's it's wild to me that he was the top

15:25

twelve.

15:26

But I mean there's a lot of comps between Bo and Drew

15:28

Brees, which obviously is no punds

15:30

like bread and butter. If anybody you

15:32

can figure out how to make him successful, he's multible.

15:34

It's Sean Payton.

15:35

He's multiple and that's Sean Payton's ego. That's why

15:38

I say, if you were surprised by that,

15:40

by Sean Payton being the one to do this, then you don't

15:42

know Sean Payton, because he does have the ego and he does

15:44

want to mold these guys so that he

15:46

can then take credit for.

15:48

He needs to.

15:48

He needs his guy.

15:49

He also needs to prove like you made the right

15:51

choice Denver picking me over Russell Wilson,

15:53

that you just shipped out the door and are still paying

15:55

his contract. So this is what he needs.

15:57

But guys, we have so much more

15:59

draft to talk about. We're gonna take a quick break here when

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There is so much, so much going

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Right now, so we appreciate you deciding

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on they're on round six now. But

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the number one overall pick, you guys,

17:30

the Bears have arrived.

17:33

Welcome to the show, Chicago.

17:36

Not only did they get the best number one pick

17:38

we've seen in a while, Caleb Williams

17:40

a generational talent, but with their

17:43

number nine pick, instead of getting an

17:45

edge rusher, which is something they needed

17:47

and I think past Bears that

17:49

might be something that they would go for, they

17:52

went and got a top tier weapon

17:55

for Caleb. Washington's wide

17:57

receiver, Rome Adunza.

18:01

And what I love is you could already see the chemistry

18:03

between these two guys at the draft. We

18:05

know that they were on the same plane to Detroit because

18:07

Caleb tweeted, YO just saw Roll

18:09

on my flight to Detroit.

18:11

Big fan.

18:12

And then we saw them kind of like goofing around backstage

18:15

at the draft. But like,

18:17

let's dig into why this is such a big deal

18:21

for the Bears in Chicago because they have never

18:23

had that guy at

18:25

quarterback. They've never had a quarterback throw more than

18:28

four thousand yards in a season. They've never had a quarterback

18:30

throw thirty touchdown passes in a season.

18:33

So what Caleb Williams could

18:35

mean for this city and

18:38

this franchise is something we have never seen before

18:40

in Chicago.

18:42

What's the vibe in the building.

18:43

I well, I grew up in Chicago. I know

18:46

this is this iteration of the Chicago Bears.

18:48

I said this on Golick and Gojo

18:51

and Golic I was on the other day the other morning.

18:54

I don't know her. I don't know these Chicago

18:56

Bears. I've never seen Chicago Bears like this exciting

19:00

on paper, with the offensive firepower

19:02

they have, it looks

19:04

like they're finally going to break

19:07

those records which have become commonplace.

19:09

Four thousand yard passers is like the standard

19:11

for a good quarterback this year or these days.

19:14

Thirty touchdown passes is not something that

19:16

should be aspired to. But

19:20

even Rubba Dunsay was told what

19:22

the Bears receiving record is, ye passer,

19:24

Yeah, receiving yards record is and

19:27

it was like it was sat a long time ago, three

19:30

thirty eight hundred yards something like that, and

19:32

he's like, in a career

19:35

that's literally how he said it, because it was so unbelievable

19:37

that that's there's so many offensive

19:40

records that just are so such

19:42

low hanging group because.

19:43

They've been living in the past or like nineteen eighty

19:45

five, it has been in history.

19:47

It has been an organizational identity.

19:51

Defense has been an organizational identity

19:53

for my entire life and even

19:55

before that.

19:56

So this could

19:58

mean fun football in Chicago.

20:01

I listen.

20:01

I love football for the grittiness of

20:03

it, for the toughness of it, for the violence

20:05

of it all. That's why Lance Briggs is my favorite player. But

20:10

that is not the fun, flashy football

20:12

that we see now. And the Bears

20:14

have never been fun and flashy.

20:17

That's never been them. But then you bring in

20:19

a guy like Kayleb Williams, who was the definition

20:21

of fun and flashy and productive

20:24

and confident. The

20:26

call of him getting the call Ryan Paul's

20:29

is like, yeah, they're making me wait five minutes on this or wait

20:31

till the five minute mark to do this. But you know, like

20:33

it was so like it

20:35

was so uneventful because these guys have been talking and

20:37

they've known that this was the case for months. I

20:40

just I can't wait for Chicago to have something

20:42

to celebrate. But I want to caution against

20:45

having these expectations right away. On

20:47

paper, they look

20:49

amazing. They look like they could contend

20:52

for the division. They look like they're a playoff team.

20:54

All of the team.

20:55

I think they're a playoff team.

20:56

I think that they're going to I will

20:58

think they will flirt with playoff

21:01

contention, Okay, but I don't want

21:03

that to be the expectation.

21:04

I mean, that's going to be the expectation with all the

21:07

hype around a generational talent

21:09

like him.

21:09

I don't like calling him a generational talent either.

21:12

I don't like it at all. We have these generations,

21:14

we just say that's what everybody was saying Trevor Lawrence

21:16

was, and Trevor Lawrence is a great player. But when you put

21:19

the label of generational on these guys,

21:21

you're putting so much.

21:22

Pressure on them.

21:24

And in a city like Chicago that is a

21:26

football town through and through, despite their lack

21:28

of recent success, I don't

21:30

want those expectations on this

21:32

group, especially because they're all

21:34

new. Keenan Allen is new, Roma

21:36

Dunes, a new Kayleb Williams new,

21:39

they've got new offensive line, they've got a new offensive

21:41

DeAndre Swift you've got a new offensive coordinator.

21:44

You need to give these time, these guys

21:46

time to figure it out, and you

21:48

need to make sure that the defense is what you

21:50

think it is and what it was in the back half of last season,

21:52

which was a top five unit. That

21:55

as long as you see that progress

21:57

and the way that they're kind of gelling, and by the end

21:59

of this next season, if

22:02

they look like a playoff caliber team,

22:04

whether or not they're record.

22:05

You're saying year two, give it to year two.

22:07

Let's see what happens.

22:08

What I'm saying is hold off judgment,

22:11

hold off expectations.

22:12

Entire year two. It is in

22:15

the NFL.

22:16

Especially with all of the hype around

22:19

a guy.

22:19

And especially with the on paper

22:22

the roster, because you look at these guys and yes,

22:24

the Bears have DJ

22:26

Moore, Keenan Allen, and then Roma Dune say,

22:29

is your wide receiver three? Yeah,

22:31

that already he could be the

22:33

best wide receiver three in the entire league.

22:35

But I don't want to put that expectation on him.

22:38

You're coming to the NFL, all the expectation

22:40

is going to be on you, especially when

22:43

you had the number one overall pick and you're

22:45

a team that has never had a quarterback throw more

22:47

than four thousand yards or never had thirty

22:49

touchdown passes in a season.

22:50

There are going to be high expectations regardless

22:53

there.

22:53

Which is wild to me because the bar is so low.

22:56

That's where I'm.

22:57

Break those like success

23:00

exactly. Yes, I have an exciting

23:02

season, compete.

23:03

Exactly, that is. That is what I want. I don't want.

23:05

I don't want to put playoff expectations. I don't want to put

23:07

division expectations, especially when you're in a division

23:09

with the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay

23:11

Packers, and then whatever Minnesota ends up

23:13

being. This could be tough, the toughest division.

23:16

It's going to rival the AFC North. Yeah,

23:19

And I don't want to put expectations

23:21

of like.

23:22

Hardware, there is hard expectations.

23:25

I don't I don't want to put those on them. I just don't want

23:27

to do it.

23:27

And this team, Yeah, Well, to his credit,

23:29

he's not shying right from it.

23:31

No, and he shouldn't. That's why I think it's going to work out.

23:34

He knows, Like again, he

23:36

came from a big time school. He's

23:39

had big time awards, and

23:41

he's an nil guy who's made big time money.

23:43

All right, and that I do think his transition to the league will

23:45

be a little bit easier because of that. I think just in general,

23:48

these guys taking accountability for themselves

23:50

their careers and being businessmen really

23:53

aids in transitioning to the NFL lifestyle.

23:56

But on the field, I mean Caleb's

23:58

coming out of the PAC twelve. I I listen, I'm a PAC

24:00

twelve girl. I went to Arizona State. I have under

24:03

no illusions of how hard the PAC twelve

24:05

is. It's not so now.

24:08

You are not going up against SEC competition.

24:10

You're not even going up against some of the big, big time

24:12

players, big hitters in the Big Ten. You

24:15

were going up against the PAC twelve for the most

24:17

part, with marble defense.

24:19

With a horrible he literally he literally got owned,

24:21

yes, like he got destroyed.

24:22

And I think that that's.

24:23

Good because that gives him a little bit of adversity.

24:25

You're going to face adversity with the Chicago Bears

24:27

in year one. That is what

24:29

the NFL is about. It is a when, not if,

24:31

when it comes to facing adversity. O Ye, how he

24:34

reacts, That's when I

24:36

think I will have more expectations

24:38

of Kayleb Williams is after seeing how he reacts

24:41

to the inevitable adversity that will

24:43

happen in his first year in Chicago.

24:44

I'm just so excited.

24:45

All right now, Let's check in with Martin Wise to see what's treading.

24:50

Milwaukee Bucks point guard Damian Lillard.

24:52

He's diagnosed with a Grade one Achille strain, doubtful

24:54

for Game four of the playoffs tomorrow

24:57

at Indiana. The Pacers lead the series two

24:59

games to one. Cavaliers at the

25:01

Magic in Game four of the four

25:03

or five series in the East, Orlando one one,

25:05

twelve to eighty nine, series now tied two

25:07

apiece. Franz Vogner thirty four

25:10

points thirteen rebounds, Thunder and the Pelicans

25:12

down in New Orleans.

25:13

Thunder lead the series two to nothing.

25:15

They also lead at halftimes sixty to forty

25:17

six, shake Gilgers Alexander with

25:19

fifteen points.

25:20

At the end of regulation.

25:22

In hockey, the Carolina Hurricanes

25:24

and the New York Islanders tied two apiece,

25:27

going to overtime there at Carolina leads the series

25:29

three games to nothing, so the Islanders.

25:31

Fighting to extend their season.

25:33

In the NFL draft, who saw the fifth round

25:35

just conclude about eleven picks.

25:37

Ago had two major quarterbacks go there.

25:39

Jordan Travis is now going to be Jordan

25:41

Travis from Florida State is not going to be a New York

25:43

Jets. Spencer Rattler from South Carolina

25:45

is going to be a New Orleans Saint. Last

25:48

couple picks in the draft so far, we have eleventh

25:50

pick in the sixth round, Casey Washington to

25:52

the Atlanta Falcons.

25:52

That's the Illinois wide receiver.

25:54

Jakes McKellen running back from Alabama

25:57

also going to the Atlanta Falcons.

25:58

And Jordan Won of jo and drives his favorite targets.

26:01

Johnny Wilson, why receiving from Florida State

26:03

is a Philadelphia Eagle.

26:05

Alex and Carmen back to you guys.

26:07

Thank you Martin. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday.

26:09

I'm Alex Courrie Heer with Carmen Vitali. We are

26:11

broadcasting live from a Tirek dot Com studios

26:13

in Los Angeles, and it is time

26:15

to bring in our first guest, someone that I got to know

26:17

in Vegas at the Super Bowl and I'm so

26:20

excited to have on our show.

26:21

Please welcome NFL rider Nick Shook.

26:25

If it isn't my two favorite ladies

26:27

in the business, how are you o?

26:30

Fabulous lattery will get you everywhere,

26:32

now keep it and I have known each other full

26:34

disclosure, Shok and I have known each other for years now.

26:36

Oh I no, you introduce. You introduced you

26:38

brought the crew together.

26:39

The crew together, and we were like that. We

26:42

went to that bar at the Cosmo like multiple times.

26:44

Yeah, well that's where NFL Network was saying, and that's

26:46

where like, that's great when all these

26:48

big events happen, the hotel lobby.

26:51

Bar is where everybody meets

26:53

everybody.

26:54

That's just the way life works, especially

26:56

that week it was down there. It was big.

26:59

Was there at some point j R? Smith? Farman

27:02

vitally outside?

27:03

Oh I forgot we saw Jr. Smith clear

27:05

I love it.

27:06

All right, Nick.

27:06

One of the biggest surprises day

27:09

one at the draft the Falcons taking

27:11

Michael Pennix junior, despite just

27:13

giving Kirk Cousins a four

27:15

year insane contract

27:18

this offseason.

27:18

What are your.

27:19

Initial thoughts and how do you see this playing

27:21

out in Atlanta?

27:22

So initially I laughed because the

27:25

timing of it, obviously is an ideal

27:27

and it's head scratcher you know, because you just spend all

27:29

that money on a quarterback. But what we failed to recognize,

27:31

I think in snap judgment, is the fact

27:33

that Kirk Cousins is thirty six years old, He's

27:35

coming off of a torn achilles. He was the

27:37

most mobile dissarly. But

27:40

it's going to affect pocket navigation, right,

27:42

So why not plan for the future with a

27:44

guy that you fell in love with, with the guy who has probably

27:46

the best arm in this.

27:49

Then don't get another guard.

27:50

You're you're you're helping my opening argument.

27:53

You're helping my.

27:54

Open Can you believe I am on an island

27:56

here in think?

27:57

Yes?

27:57

This is it's the future you

27:59

got. Do you think about the beach coming up? An achilles injury?

28:02

Absolutely?

28:03

You're injured?

28:03

Absolutely great?

28:05

Okay, keep going next?

28:05

Sorry, yeah, sorry.

28:07

The majority of everybody is saying that too, And

28:09

I think they didn't handle the process well. Not informing

28:11

Kirk that they're even considering it until they were on the clock

28:13

is not good. That's poor business, right. But

28:16

when you're talking about roster construction and long

28:18

term planning, Look how many quarterbacks started

28:20

the game last year? I can tell you sixty six. You know how

28:22

work every single one of them on a week by week basis.

28:24

It's a lot of guys.

28:25

Need good insurance. And the Falcons just

28:27

spent the last three years living in quarterbacking

28:30

no man's land. It was Taylor Heineke, it was

28:32

Marcus Marionta, it was des and Ritter. None

28:34

of them panned out, and they were good enough to potentially

28:37

make the playoffs even with bad quarterback

28:39

play. They finished seven to ten each of those years. Right,

28:41

So why not We'll give you a backup

28:43

that you might actually like and would like to see

28:45

at some point if Kirk does go down or he has

28:48

issues with the abilities or whatever, and also

28:50

somebody we can plan for a long term. You know, a lot

28:52

of the complaints is, well, he's been in college

28:54

for so long. He's not like he's coming out at twenty

28:56

one years old. Who cares, He's still

28:58

in his twenties. He's ten years younger than Kirk

29:00

Cousins. And if you really love the guy,

29:03

say you want two good years out of Kirk

29:05

and then he starts to fall off a cliff and you can get out

29:07

of that contract as a post June first cut

29:09

in twenty twenty six, it's twelve and a half million

29:11

dollars a dead cat. That's nothing compared to what

29:13

we see other teams bite the bullet forar with guys like

29:16

Russell Wilson with Denver RIGHTOK, why

29:18

not plan? I got it?

29:20

I got it?

29:21

But he answer me position, Please

29:23

answer me the question of what the biggest cheek code in the NFL

29:25

is.

29:27

Well speed number one and two two trenches

29:29

and I would reverse that.

29:30

No, No, it is having

29:32

a quarterback on a rookie contract that is

29:35

productive and a good quarterback

29:37

for you because you don't have to spend the money on

29:39

that contract. You are wasting years

29:41

of Michael Pennock Junior's rookie contract,

29:44

which affects how you can build your team

29:46

because by the time that you have to play him,

29:48

you're gonna have you're going to be up against his

29:51

next contract at that point without having a full

29:53

evaluation on who he is as a quarterback. Not

29:55

to mention what happens if Kirk

29:58

struggles a little bit, but it doesn't necessarily have

30:00

to do with the injury, or he's

30:02

not actually hurt, he's just struggling.

30:04

Then you have a guy that you drafted

30:07

top ten breathing down his neck

30:09

and now you have a quarterback position, a

30:11

quarterback battle, and that is not good

30:14

for anyone. That's not good for the locker room. That's not good

30:16

for the two quarterbacks that are involved.

30:18

It could be a total mess

30:20

in Atlanta.

30:21

I get planning for the future, but if you thought

30:23

you wanted to plan for the future this year, then

30:26

get the Bridge quarterback and

30:28

then draft this guy. I know

30:30

that they're picking eighth, but you if

30:32

you absolutely needed a quarterback.

30:34

We saw the Minnesota Vikings get their guy.

30:36

Regardless, Atlanta absolutely

30:39

could do that because guess what, they picked three spots

30:41

ahead of the Vikings original

30:43

pick. So I can't

30:45

get on board with this. I think it's irresponsible.

30:47

And yes, how they handled it with Kirk Cousins, I

30:51

feel bad for the guy, and I feel bad for Michael Penick Streeter

30:53

because he deserves to play right away.

30:55

Okay, but it's time going to come back to you with this, and I love

30:57

you because we can go back and forth and things like this until

30:59

this on sets and then.

31:00

Rising again and we double edged sword.

31:03

We do.

31:03

We definitely do.

31:04

Uh.

31:04

It's a double edged sword because the

31:06

rookie contract is great except

31:09

when you have to throw that rookie into the fire and he

31:11

doesn't deliver a la Zach Wilson with the Jets,

31:13

Suddenly that rugby contract doesn't matter. In fact,

31:15

you're parting on the rookie contract because you're getting

31:17

out of that cheaper rate. That's

31:20

the compromise. That's the compromise that they failed

31:22

to do when they went and sign Kirk Cousins. Exactly what

31:24

the other side is too, is if Kirk

31:26

struggles, If he does struggle, he was going

31:28

to struggle whether Pennix was there or not. So it's still

31:30

a better position to have Pennix there than

31:33

not, I think, in my opinion.

31:34

I just I think your best case scenario,

31:36

Kirk goes off. He's the quarterback you think he

31:39

is, and you hate sit

31:41

Michael Pennix, you her for.

31:42

Years, all right.

31:43

I have to say I'm shocked after

31:45

that. You have been the

31:48

lead that you've been, You've been the lead

31:50

voice on the Jordan Love experiment, and

31:52

the blocks is.

31:53

Not no, we went down. This is

31:55

not Green Bay. This is not the situation with

31:57

Aaron Rodgers.

31:58

What do you mean you have a rookie quarterback sitting

32:00

behind a successful

32:02

veteran who was well like, who's you're gonna

32:04

get to learn and developed.

32:05

Aaron Rodgers was there so much longer

32:08

he had started to fall off a cliff when they drafted

32:10

Jordan lev Also, green Bay has a track

32:12

record of this working out for them. Also,

32:15

also they don't have own an

32:17

owner that has these extra pressures

32:19

that every other team does on

32:22

decisions like this, so they can afford

32:24

to be patient. Nowhere else in the league

32:26

can anybody else get away with that? It is

32:28

green Bay and green Bay only Not to mention, like,

32:30

like I said, they've done this multiple times, so

32:33

you can trust them.

32:34

I do not have that trust. Not to mention,

32:37

who does the.

32:38

Owner have the trust?

32:39

Wet it might not be there by the time we're

32:42

going to agree.

32:43

To disagree on this with Carmen. Let's talk about

32:45

the Bears real quick. So we only have you for a little

32:47

bit longer, a couple of minutes longer. Taking Caleb

32:50

number one, they stuck with

32:52

offense with their second pick, taking

32:54

Rome at number nine. Now, they have never

32:56

had a quarterback throw more than four thousand

32:59

yards in a season, had a quarterback throw more than

33:01

thirty touchdown passes in a season. How

33:03

quickly do we see these two playmakers

33:06

improve Chicago's offense.

33:08

I mean, I think it's an instant improvement, But I also think

33:10

that the standard was pretty low to begin with. You just kind

33:12

of pointed it out so fast. It's

33:14

actually remarkable when you dig into some of these

33:16

franchises, how few of them have actually

33:18

had quarterbacks routinely break four thousand

33:20

yards considering where a quarterback play is. But

33:22

like Joe Flacco with the Browns was the first

33:24

quarterback in franchise is three to throw for three

33:26

hundred plus in four straight games and they've been around

33:29

for like seventy years. Okay, it's

33:31

insane that some of these franchises haven't experienced

33:34

you know, last year.

33:34

And seasons weren't as as common

33:37

as they were like you know up until like

33:39

fifteen years ago.

33:40

Yeah, but.

33:42

A strong time.

33:45

So I think that you'll see an improvement. But I also

33:47

don't want to place such high expectations

33:49

on Caleb Williams that he's just going to come in and

33:51

transform the franchise overnight. They are a

33:53

lot better on paper than they were two

33:56

years ago. And last year, that defense

33:58

came around to the back half of the season last and

34:00

really, you know, proved to be their strength, and all

34:02

they really were missing is offense. And since then

34:04

they've upgraded the receiver room tremendously with Keenoan

34:06

Allen and Roma Dunsay. And then you have the

34:08

quarterback. But it's going to be an acclamation process

34:11

for the guy because he's still a rookie and he still

34:13

is going to have to work out some kings. No quarterback

34:15

comes out of the NFL perfect, right. There are

34:17

some guys who are generational talents. You could see Andrew

34:19

luck types. Trevor Lawrence was advertised

34:21

as that to begin with. Then he went through one year

34:23

of Urban Meyer and it was rough. It was rough

34:25

before he got back on track and even and then he still kind

34:27

of hit or missed some times. Last year was a season full of

34:29

near misses for him and the entire Jaguars offense.

34:32

So I think the same thing could be true for Caleb.

34:34

So let's exercise some patience here.

34:36

Keep the optimism high though, because last year.

34:39

Everyone was talking about the Bears.

34:40

They're going to go back to the playoffs. They're gonna be a better

34:42

team if you talk to Bears fans, and they obviously didn't

34:44

live up to those expectations. It was easy to do that.

34:47

Coming this time around, I could entertain

34:49

such a notion.

34:51

We are about me and I were back on the same page.

34:54

I've got Yes, I've got one last really quick.

34:57

Who's going to be the tougher division, AFC North or NFC

34:59

North.

35:00

That's tough. I'm gonna

35:02

go NFSTY North. And maybe that's a bit of homers

35:05

and because I live in Cleveland and that's where I'm doing this all

35:07

from right now, but yeah, that's I mean, that's it,

35:09

that's it.

35:09

That's a damn good division.

35:10

It was a damn good division last year. I mean the

35:12

Steelers, the Browns, the Ravens all made the playoffs,

35:14

and the Bengals they were a Joe Burrow away

35:17

from being in the playoff run as well. They were in the playoff for

35:19

like.

35:19

The last two weeks.

35:20

So every team in that division could win

35:22

the division, and every team in that division could

35:24

come out as one of the favorites in the AFC not named

35:27

Kansas City right now, So I have to go with the

35:29

North. But I love that the NFC North is

35:31

rounding into form. It's always a good division to be competitive.

35:34

Nick, you were awesome can. We're

35:36

gonna we're gonna have you back.

35:37

On again real soon.

35:38

Here.

35:38

We appreciate you for

35:40

joining us. Love

35:42

it all right when we come back the dudes and

35:45

the don'ts in sports.

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35:48

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35:50

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35:53

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35:58

Explosive like the Bears offense.

36:02

Yes, but as you said,

36:05

no high expectations, so.

36:07

Explos it without me having expectations. That's

36:11

time.

36:11

Yeah, yes, they can. It's one of my favorite lines.

36:14

All right, guys, and it's time for the dues

36:16

and the don'ts in sports

36:19

highlight.

36:21

I love that putting a spotlight on the

36:23

don't.

36:23

The subject brings me no joy.

36:26

Are you on crack?

36:27

It's time for the dues and the don'ts

36:30

in sports?

36:31

All right?

36:31

We got a lot of good things

36:34

for the dues and the domes. I'm gonna start

36:36

with a funny do celebrate your

36:39

accomplishments. Jim Harbaugh gets a

36:41

fifteen and O Michigan tattoo in

36:43

honor of their national title this season.

36:46

When I saw it, like the social media posts,

36:48

I was like, no, that can't be.

36:50

That can't be real.

36:51

Right on his shoulder, like his shoulder

36:54

the M and the fifteen and oh that's it.

36:57

Just gonna rocket for the rest of your life.

36:58

Do you see his face? Yes, deadpan,

37:01

and then he like looked at it. He's like smiled and yeah,

37:04

no very dad.

37:05

Big big Harba

37:07

fan who's also like living in

37:09

his RV.

37:11

Out here in California. Thank he's moving now.

37:13

He did, but he did, all

37:15

right, I do call your shat

37:18

okay because new Bears offensive

37:20

tackle Kieran a megan A Megga

37:22

gee, gosh, this is gonna a Megga

37:25

gee.

37:25

I got it right. I got it right. Grew

37:28

up in Chicago, actually went to.

37:30

My rival high school, and last

37:33

year met Matt ebra Flute at the golf

37:35

club that his dad belongs to and

37:37

told Matt Ebraflues he was going to play

37:40

for his hometown team that Now all

37:42

of these tweets are surfacing, like

37:46

him saying things.

37:47

About the Chicago Bears like just along

37:50

with the rest of us, like all of.

37:51

Our our the thoughts about the Chicago emotions,

37:54

like justin Fields and Justin Field's only

37:56

cool, uh and and releasing

37:58

the episodes.

37:59

So about releasing the.

37:59

Entire offensive line a couple of years ago,

38:02

which is justifiable, don't get me. Especially he's

38:04

an offensive lineman, so he knows what he's looking at. Yeah,

38:07

hilarious, Absolutely love it. This is what happens when

38:09

you get a hometown guy. You're gonna get a guy with a lot of heart and

38:11

Riotbles loves that.

38:12

I love that.

38:12

Okay, do have fun with draft

38:15

Knight and family messages. We got a

38:17

little bit of everything here. But Drake May's

38:19

brothers had a message for him once

38:21

he was drafted third overall the Patriots,

38:24

and it was hilarious.

38:25

You expect like emotional things.

38:27

His first brother pretty

38:29

boy, next one overrated, and

38:31

final a beach.

38:33

I like, you know, I made that a little.

38:34

PG, but he just starts hysterically laughing,

38:37

which he said, which.

38:38

Is hysterical because Drake May is not little.

38:41

And then you had Caleb Williams mom's

38:44

message and he's just like I was crying

38:46

watching it, Like it was just the

38:48

emotion everything around

38:51

this night and this moment and what it means

38:53

for all these athletes, Like I was crying the

38:55

next day, like watching all their hype videos, like

38:57

with them being drafted and then like the momage

39:00

of all their top plays.

39:04

I adore that, And honestly, that's why I really like Drake

39:06

May because he's the youngest of all those boys, and

39:08

so you know.

39:09

That he's like he can take.

39:10

He's been a punching back his whole life.

39:12

All right, I've got it, don't Okay, But

39:14

it's like a positive don't don't doubt

39:16

your friends. Because the Vikings

39:18

put out a video after they traded up

39:21

to get Dallas Turner. Yeah, and

39:23

it's a close shot of

39:25

Kevin O'Connell's face and it says

39:27

and Questy's coming over and Questy dopaments o their

39:29

general matters coming over and he's saying, we're getting him

39:31

Turner, and Kaos just looks

39:34

He's like really, and the smile

39:36

spreads across his face, his eyes get super

39:38

wide. It's the most memorable thing I've ever seen

39:40

in my whole life. But like, these guys

39:43

work so well together, and I'm getting to cover

39:45

them as a joy because it really does seem like Quissy and KOs

39:47

are in lockstep, and so Kevin

39:49

O'Connell is just so thrilled

39:51

about this. I love that, and I'm like, why

39:54

did he even doubt? Don't don't, don't doubt, Quissy,

39:56

no doubt he got him. Now that they have, they got

39:58

their quarterback taken away or you know, squared

40:00

away. So now they went out and got one

40:03

of the best offensive players in the draft.

40:04

It was wow, good job, Viking. That

40:06

was great.

40:07

Okay, do match

40:09

your shoes to your car.

40:10

I don't know if you saw this, but Luca pulled

40:13

up in a sixty eight Camaro matching

40:16

his Jordan's. They were this pink and

40:18

purple swirl vibe our love, and

40:21

the car had like a little like Jordan like

40:24

emblem on the back of it.

40:25

It was so swaggy, so

40:28

beautiful.

40:28

We love a white boy with swag, we

40:31

do, we do.

40:34

I just love all kinds of swag because swag is confidence.

40:36

And if you got confidence and swag,

40:39

like, we're fine, everything's gonna be all right. Okay

40:41

when we come back. Six quarterbacks went in the top twelve. But

40:43

who will succeed and who will fail?

40:46

We're gonna break that down. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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They thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon

41:01

with Krmee and me.

41:02

We've got Lions reporter Danny Rodgers joining

41:05

us live from Detroit in about thirty

41:07

minutes and happy NFL Draft weekend.

41:09

You guys.

41:10

I got to start out by giving a mad shout

41:12

out to the Rams for absolutely

41:15

crushing the vibe.

41:17

Yeah.

41:18

Here in LA they built a full

41:20

football field on the beach in

41:22

our town of Hermosa Beach, and kids have been

41:24

like playing on it all week.

41:26

They're keeping it up through I think

41:28

like Tuesday or Wednesday.

41:29

Okay, I didn't realize.

41:30

Next week they had their like draft

41:32

party, like where they were actually making their selections.

41:35

Yeah, at one of the top party houses in

41:38

Draft House.

41:38

They do a draft house every year.

41:40

I mean I've reached there, like they

41:42

have.

41:43

They throw some of the best parties in town.

41:45

Yeah.

41:45

I love that.

41:47

Oh Yeah, I liked like the Rams take

41:50

full advantage of being in La slash

41:52

like southern California, and I like that there

41:54

they were highlighting like different areas.

41:56

Yeah, because Malibu last year than they

41:58

did her Mosa Beach this year.

42:00

Stand to the beach town which like.

42:01

I was taking my walk and down the beach

42:03

and I on Wednesday and I was like I

42:06

smelled something. I was like, what does that smell? And then

42:08

I turn and look over and they're painting the turf.

42:10

Oh yeah, no, they have like full turf

42:12

on the beach here.

42:14

We just had a ton of activations on a a.

42:16

Job that's beautiful. They absolutely

42:18

crushed it.

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We've seen a lot of crazy things go

42:52

down this week weekend during the draft,

42:55

fourteen offensive players went before a single

42:57

defensive player. Bill Belichick so on

42:59

showing some personality on the Pat

43:01

McAfee show. I don't know if you saw that.

43:04

It was like a

43:06

lot it was.

43:07

It was the most like personality. It's

43:12

it's like what he's been holding back the whole time.

43:14

He could have been fun.

43:15

He could have been I mean there was the dog

43:18

like during the COVID. Yeah, like

43:21

you saw that. I'm like, all right, well he must have more personality.

43:23

Yeah, then we're giving him credit for.

43:25

We also saw Roger Gondell dropping hints

43:27

that he would like to replace a preseason game with a regular

43:29

season game.

43:30

Bringing it to eighteen games.

43:33

It's only a matter of time. I mean, stuff like that ends up

43:35

happening.

43:35

Joe Burrow was.

43:36

One of the first to respond, saying, so like

43:38

two bye weeks, but then that would put super

43:40

Bowl to President's d a weekend, giving everyone that Monday

43:42

off after super Bowl, which, like.

43:45

I don't, I don't hate that idea as long as you did.

43:47

You would have to put it in two bye weeks at this point because

43:50

now with the bye weeks getting later and later, it's

43:53

some teams are going fourteen weeks without.

43:55

A buy, which is nuts.

43:56

That's crazy.

43:57

And I get that you get the mini bue if you play Thursday, and if

43:59

your team does it, it's it's not

44:01

the same. And it puts undue pressure

44:03

on these guys, especially now that we're having a Christmas game on

44:05

why.

44:06

I'm so sorry about that.

44:09

I'm just never gonna see my family for a major holiday. It's

44:11

nime no.

44:11

But but you're going in sports like I like knew that

44:14

going in. I was like, hey, I'm gonna miss weddings. I'm gonna

44:16

miss But you don't celebration.

44:18

Christmas every single year because you figure

44:20

that if Christmas falls on a Wednesday, I don't

44:22

know.

44:22

I can go on and I in studio,

44:25

I've worked Christmas Eve, Christmas the last.

44:27

Oh I've done. I do it all the time.

44:28

But you just you think that maybe maybe a couple of

44:30

years you get actual time with your.

44:32

Family psych not in sports.

44:35

Well, so yeah, athletes, you've

44:37

got to be going on something. I have already fired us

44:39

today about the Pennix Junior.

44:40

I love it.

44:41

Well, we're about to get into that like kind

44:43

of again because the other crazy thing is we saw

44:45

twelve quarterbacks go in the top

44:47

twelve. That was the most ever taken. So we're

44:49

going to go through and explain

44:51

who we think is going to succeed or

44:54

fail and why. So let's

44:56

start at the top. Number one.

44:59

Caleb will going to the Bears. I

45:01

think this will work. They're taking a completely

45:04

different approach to their offense

45:06

this season, instead of putting all

45:09

the pressure on a rookie quarterback

45:11

just like hey, go figure it out, which was kind

45:14

of what happened to justin Fields. It was like there was a kidski

45:16

before him, and yeah,

45:18

they're giving him some weapons and

45:20

surrounding him with pieces that

45:22

will help him succeed.

45:24

And we saw that Thursday night with the number one pick.

45:27

Instead of getting the edge rusher, as they said off the

45:29

top of the show, they went and got a top weapon

45:32

for Williams with rome A

45:34

Donsay, And like obviously

45:36

they added Keenan Allen,

45:38

DeAndre Swift, they have DJ Moore

45:40

that there's more of an

45:42

offensive focus for

45:44

this Bears team than we have ever seen this.

45:48

Literally in my entire lifetime.

45:50

I want to give Ryan Holes a flowers because

45:52

this was a very curated,

45:56

intentional plan that he put in place

45:58

as soon as he got to the Chicago people

46:01

act like they lucked into the first overall pick

46:03

after trading with Carolina, if you don't think that

46:05

Ryan Poles was taking stock, because

46:07

first of all, the Bears had multiple offers and moved down

46:09

last year from the number one overall pick, which they earned

46:12

down to number nine, which ended up being

46:14

with the Panthers, because there was

46:16

multiple offers, and Ryan Poles looks at the Panthers

46:19

and goes, yeah, I could bet that they're

46:21

gonna have a high first round pick, and

46:23

sure enough, they got him the number one overall

46:25

pick. So much so that the Bears

46:28

having the number one overall pick and Caleb Williams

46:30

going to the team picking first overall

46:33

was such an incredibly unique situation

46:35

because the Bears did not Yes,

46:37

the Bears did.

46:38

Not warrant the number one overall pick.

46:40

They have a better roster than

46:43

most teams picking number one

46:45

overall have, so this was an

46:48

opportunity to take advantage of having an

46:50

actual environment to develop

46:53

a young quarterback, which the Bears have never

46:55

had.

46:55

Like you mentioned before, the Bears have never had that guy. They've

46:57

never had a guy throw more than four thousand yards in a season

47:00

they've.

47:00

Been in a quarterback, They've never set that guy.

47:02

That's the thing is, they never set a guy up for

47:04

success to do that. Ever, that

47:07

I'm.

47:07

Talking about franchise history, talking experience

47:10

here where this entire franchise

47:12

has had a defensive identity for the

47:14

last five in

47:16

the past, Mass.

47:17

Good luckman is the last guy that you can hang your hat

47:19

on as the Chicago Bears quarterback.

47:20

And that was so long ago that the game

47:22

has completely changed. So now you get the fun, you

47:24

get the.

47:25

Flashy football and kaylab Williams

47:27

is the definition. We talked.

47:28

We talked about it, you know, last Hour is

47:31

the definition of fun and flashy and on paper

47:34

this should work.

47:35

Yeah, welcome to the show,

47:37

Chicago Bears. Good job, Ryan, feel

47:40

like you have finally arrived. Good job Bryan

47:42

Polls to the new NFL. Okay, let's

47:44

go to the second quarterback taken

47:46

Jaden Daniels to the Commanders,

47:49

the Heisman winner out of LSU.

47:51

This is a lot of new for

47:54

the Commanders. You got a new owner, a new coaching

47:56

staff, new head coach, new offensive coordinator,

47:58

new.

47:59

Quarter a lot of new guys on the roster.

48:01

It's a lot of new now

48:03

they did pick up some new familiar faces,

48:06

if Austin Eckler, if he can stay healthy veteran

48:08

presence, which is great. But this one's

48:10

tough for me because there is so much new.

48:13

It's a lot of positivity, there's a lot

48:15

of hope, but because everything

48:17

is so new, I feel like I need

48:19

to wait a month

48:22

and see, like, just is

48:24

it jelly?

48:26

So yes, yes, this is great.

48:28

Keep expect temper expectations, different

48:30

different expectators.

48:32

Is by no means the same.

48:34

This is not the same at all. CARNI, I

48:36

am not allowed.

48:39

High expectations for the Bears

48:41

and Caleb Williams, I don't like. This

48:43

is new owner, new coaching

48:45

staff, new quarterback, a lot of new

48:47

faces on this roster.

48:49

Yeah, well it's so old it

48:51

is rebuilt.

48:51

It is and I appreciate.

48:53

You know, Jayden and Daniels was responsible

48:56

for all of LSU success last year

48:58

because that defense was horrendous. So Jane

49:00

Daniels had to go put up forty to fifty points

49:02

every single game, and I watched him do it very

49:04

impressively. He's gonna fit right

49:06

into Cliff Kingsbury's offense. Yeah,

49:09

he never went under center at LSU. Jane

49:11

Daniels didn't, and Cliff Kingsbury doesn't ask his quarterbacks

49:13

to go under center, so that's great. But yeah, he's

49:15

gonna have Daniels kind of still pushing the ball down the field

49:18

with the remnants of that air raid offense that Cliff Kingsbury

49:21

used in college, which he took some of

49:23

that to go to the NFL. The one concern

49:25

I have is Cliff Kingsbury trying to

49:27

make Jade and Daniels into Kyler Murray. They

49:29

are two different players, and I think Jayden

49:32

Daniels absolutely scrambles.

49:34

He is not a running quarterback. That is the differentiation

49:37

is not He knows how to scramble and he

49:39

will do it. Yeah, but you

49:42

like he's not big enough to

49:45

at the NFL level to design

49:48

runs for him like this. This kid is

49:51

like I know, he weighed in at the combine

49:53

like over two hundred pounds and that was like soaking

49:55

wet after probably drinking two gallons of water.

49:58

Like, there's no like, he doesn't weigh that much

50:00

and he's very small. So we're going

50:02

to have to have a good offensive line that can protect him. Now,

50:04

granted, Jane Daniels can't get himself out of trouble. He's

50:07

done that. But yeah, he has a tendency to look down

50:09

when he's scrambling and doesn't necessarily

50:11

see guys open down

50:13

the field. So that's something you're gonna have to coach him up

50:15

on all that other stuff. I just don't want him

50:17

to I don't want Coff Kingsbury to make try

50:20

to make Jane Daniels t Kyler Murray.

50:21

Okay, we'll see so succeed or fail.

50:25

I Jerry the jury, right, I

50:28

hate I'm a glad of tempering expectations.

50:30

Are you kidding? Okay, let's see how this all goes.

50:32

Let's go to number three, Drake may

50:35

to the Patriots.

50:36

First reaction, I was a little surprised

50:38

they didn't trade down for a haul, because yes, they

50:40

needed a quarterback, but they need so many

50:42

other things too. They don't have star receivers, star

50:45

weapons and protection.

50:46

They're online ring twentieth.

50:47

Last season, defense was middle of the pack, fifteenth

50:50

in points allowed per game. Once again, a

50:53

lot of new new head coach and Jared Mayo

50:55

who's never been a head coach before. It feels

50:57

kind of like a similar situation to Jones

51:00

of like this. I

51:03

think Drake May is in the toughest

51:06

rookie situation.

51:07

Oh yeah, he's basically Bryce Young from last year.

51:09

Yeah, so I think this is And.

51:12

Like I get so, John Mayo was promoted

51:14

from within. This was the succession

51:16

plan. Apparently all along he had language written

51:18

into his contract that he would succeed Bill Belichick when

51:20

he.

51:20

Was gone, So you have some continuity when

51:22

that happens.

51:23

Yeah, but I was begging the Patriots to have a little

51:25

bit more self awareness for all of those reasons that you just mentioned,

51:27

not to mention when the

51:30

stuff that we heard from the Vikings after

51:32

picking JJ McCarthy, it very

51:35

much reading between the lines, sounded like they were

51:37

prepared to give the

51:39

Patriots both of their first round

51:41

picks this year and next year's

51:43

first.

51:43

That's crazy.

51:44

So to turn down three first

51:47

round picks to then take Drake

51:49

May who was now coming into a terrible

51:52

situation under so much pressure.

51:54

I know of Drake May no protection.

51:56

I don't think Drake may is the project that people were making

51:58

him out to be in the last couple of weeks. I think that was more

52:00

to get him to fall. I think he is a great

52:02

quarterback, with an even higher ceiling. Yeah,

52:05

but you are not setting him up for success

52:07

in the one. I tweeted right after this happened that

52:09

I was bummed, and this is the reason,

52:11

because I want to see Drake may

52:14

set up.

52:14

To succeed, because I think that he could.

52:16

Be one of these incredible

52:18

caliber quarterbacks. But

52:20

only so much of what determined success

52:22

in this league.

52:23

For a quarterback.

52:24

The supporting cast is the supporting cast, and what situation

52:26

they go into and New England just doesn't.

52:28

They don't even need the bare bones, they don't have anything.

52:31

They need so much, they need so many a haul,

52:33

they needed.

52:34

All and they didn't get down three

52:36

for cos I don't

52:38

know.

52:39

I don't know.

52:40

Okay, let's move on.

52:41

We don't have number with

52:43

so many quarterbacks get there.

52:45

I know we've okay, we've already talked about

52:47

this one a bit. At number eight, Michael

52:49

Pennock Junior going to the Falcons.

52:51

This was the biggest w started.

52:53

Again situation for most

52:56

Atlanta fans, But it

52:58

happened. So let's dive been a

53:00

little bit because two things can be

53:03

true in this situation against

53:05

me. Now, this could actually be a great

53:07

learning situation for Pennix

53:10

to develop, even though

53:12

it's an awkward situation for Kirk Cousins.

53:14

Okay, I'm not surprised that Pennix

53:17

was a top pick. He's a pure pocket passer.

53:19

He has great accuracy. He's got a

53:21

beautiful throw and spin on the ball. The

53:24

weird part of this whole situation is that the

53:26

Falcons just paid Kirk Cousins one

53:28

hundred and eighty million dollars over four years

53:31

with one hundred million guarantee, and he didn't

53:33

get the heads up that they were taking a quarterback until

53:35

they were on the clock. That is the uncomfortable,

53:39

irresponsible miscommunication.

53:41

Part of this whole situation is irresponsible. So

53:44

thing is irresponsible. I'm gonna I'm not gonna

53:46

let you have this without challenging it.

53:48

Yeah, and I will challenge you right back, because now

53:51

they have two great quarterbacks

53:54

at the most important.

53:55

Position you can't play in the

53:57

league. You can't.

53:58

But you also have Kirk Cousins, who's an older, coming

54:00

out order quarterback coming off of the biggest

54:03

injury that you can come off of late

54:05

in his career. He hasn't played

54:07

a game since and this is this

54:09

is insurance. As we heard them say Kirk

54:12

Cousins is our quarterback. Now, Penis is

54:14

Insurance. This is not a top ten pack.

54:15

I think this will not.

54:17

A top ten pack.

54:18

I'm going to say this is going to work.

54:19

No, I'm going to say this is going

54:21

to be horribly, horribly wrong. And I'm so

54:23

sorry to Michael Pennix because this is not his fault.

54:26

It was not his choice, and I wanted

54:28

Michael Pennix to start right away.

54:29

He is ready to start now,

54:32

and I am.

54:33

I am so much in favor of giving guys time

54:35

to ease into the NFL. So a bridge

54:38

quarterback to the Michael Pennock junior

54:40

era in Atlanta would have been phenomenal.

54:42

A plus love that this

54:44

is not that you do not pay a bridge quarterback one hundred

54:47

million dollars guaranteed. That is not the thing here.

54:49

And to create a quarterback competition

54:51

for both, He's going to be a Dutchman

54:53

to both. There is no way that you did

54:56

not make things worse for Kirk Cousins

54:58

by drafting Michael Pennock junior. And there

55:00

is no way that you playing

55:02

Michael Pennock junior without something bad happening

55:04

to Kirk Cousins or taking

55:07

something away from Michael Penick Junior later on down the

55:09

line. It's completely

55:11

like the cap hit that Kirk Cousins has. Even

55:14

if Michael Penix Junior plays in two years,

55:16

that's gonna affect him.

55:18

Like this is just I

55:21

don't even have words.

55:22

I know you don't think it's going to succeed.

55:24

Let's move on to the next quarterback at number ten,

55:26

JJ McCarthy to the Vikings.

55:28

This was the first trade up.

55:30

One spot, just one little

55:32

spot.

55:33

But I could see this working. He's a national champion

55:35

who's coach. Like Harbad had been raving

55:37

about him.

55:38

He's coming into a situation that

55:40

will help him succeed with a lot of good

55:42

pieces in place. They have wide receiver death, they

55:44

have a good O line. They were twelve last season. The

55:47

only hesitation is the NFC North is

55:49

now a stacked division. The

55:51

Lions proved they are the top team last

55:54

year. Packers and Jordan Love did well, Bears

55:56

getting the number one pick in Caleb Williams. Vikings

55:59

did sign Sam Darnald this offseason.

56:01

So is

56:03

there a world where they sit JJ.

56:06

Yes behind Sam? Or is it a straight up quarterback

56:08

competition here?

56:09

No, no, no, no, You're not doing that

56:11

again with a first round, top ten

56:13

pick. What

56:15

you're doing is you're bridging the

56:18

Kirk Cousins era with the JJ McCarthy era,

56:20

and you are letting Sam Darnald be the guy

56:23

to start so you can ease JJ in because

56:25

JJ does need reps, he needs development.

56:27

He is the project, but he has the traits

56:29

that Minnesota really liked.

56:31

And he's coming into a situation.

56:33

Where you have a former quarterback and head coach,

56:35

a former quarterback as your quarterbacks coach.

56:37

You also have tons of weapons

56:39

justin Jefferson, Jordan Madison, T J. Hockinson, Aaron

56:42

Jones.

56:42

Now you have a good offensive line and you got a

56:44

defense that could potentially be top five, especially

56:46

with the addition of Dallas Turner. Now, so

56:49

you can ease him into this situation

56:52

when you feel like he is ready. This is

56:54

the exact situation in Minnesota.

56:56

Is what you want for your young rookie

56:58

quarterback, you could I

57:00

think that that situation is even better than the Bear situation.

57:03

The Bear situation is the best a first overall

57:05

pick has come into. Yeah, the

57:08

situation in Minnesota is the best situation

57:10

of a rooking.

57:11

Quarterback team to help him succeed.

57:13

Absolutely, this is the best of the of this

57:15

draft.

57:16

This is the best situation a quarterback is

57:18

coming into is in Minnesota. I think this

57:20

is absolutely going to work, and

57:23

I think it's going to take a little bit of

57:25

time, but in the long haul

57:28

the Bikings. Bikings are going to be better for it because

57:30

while they may there was rumors they want to drink may

57:32

while they may not have gotten their ideal quarterback,

57:34

they got the ideal situation when they

57:36

got to get J. J. McCarthy and Dallas

57:39

Turner that now opposite

57:41

hit of Jonathan Grenard. That

57:43

the who they got from the Texans this offseason in free

57:45

agency. Twelve and a half sacks last year. So

57:48

now you're gonna pair another guy on the other side of him, another

57:50

first round pick, potentially the first you know, the

57:52

best defensive player in the draft.

57:54

Yeah, I love it. I love it so much.

57:56

With John Bacon.

57:57

One more at number twelve, Bonix

57:59

to theos. Now, this was one of Carmens

58:01

if you were listening in the first hour WTF

58:04

moments, because she does not believe

58:06

that Bonick should be a top twelve quarterback.

58:09

Will he succeed.

58:11

I think yes, he has the most college experience

58:13

out of any quarterback prospect this year sixty

58:16

one games. In his last season at Oregon, he

58:18

was second in passing yards, most passing touchdown,

58:20

a Heisman finalist, and Sean Payton

58:22

now has his guy. Boenicks

58:24

fits the offense that Sean Payton likes to run.

58:27

And this is Sean Payton's chance to show

58:29

and prove he can do what he came to

58:31

Denver to do a lot of contents

58:33

between Bow and Drew Brees, which is Peyton's.

58:35

Bread and butter.

58:37

If he could be even a fraction of

58:40

what Breeze was, I think they will succeed.

58:42

Yeah, if he can, if he can, if

58:44

he can't.

58:45

So his experience in college, though,

58:47

I also feel like works as a detriment to Sean

58:49

Payton. Wants to mold him. Sean Payton wants to make him

58:51

into the next Drew Brees. Sean Payton has the ego to think that

58:53

he can do so well. Now Bonis

58:56

is going to have to unlearn things from

58:58

college and realize them under

59:00

Sean Payton.

59:01

Yeah, and its like, isn't that what like any college

59:03

quarterback is doing?

59:04

Once you get to the NFL like it's a different.

59:06

Oh, lets you get a guy like JJ McCarthy who is very,

59:08

very raw and needs and needs reps and

59:10

is actually mobile like mold

59:13

double there it is moldable five

59:16

times fast. I like Bonix

59:19

as a quarterback. Please do not get me wrong. He is a

59:21

good quarterback.

59:21

Game.

59:22

This was two years ago.

59:23

He would have absolutely been probably the first quarterback

59:25

taken off the board. But I just

59:27

can't get on board with him being a top twelve

59:29

pick and also being asked to be the guy in

59:32

Denver because who else do you have?

59:33

Zach Wilson. That's that's tough.

59:35

Yikes, yikes.

59:37

I'm gonna say no, I don't think it's gonna I don't think it's gonna

59:39

go.

59:39

Well, I'm gonna give Sean Payton the benefit of

59:41

doubt and say, yes, all right, we're gonna take a quick break

59:43

here, but when we come back. Is a Lakers playoff run

59:45

done?

59:46

Tonight?

59:47

We'll explain more next on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

59:49

back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex

59:52

Curry alongside Carbon Vitally. We

59:54

are broadcasting live from Tar dot Com

59:56

Studios in Los Angeles.

59:58

Such a hype up.

59:59

Thank you for spending Saturday afternoon with

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us, because we know there are so many things

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going on right now between the draft, baseball,

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playoff basketball, and we've talked

1:00:09

about it all today.

1:00:10

Oh we sure have literally everything.

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Except for what playoff basketball

1:00:14

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1:00:18

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1:00:43

Yeah, okay, well guys, let's

1:00:45

get let's get to some basketball

1:00:48

because I feel like tonight might be the last time I get

1:00:50

to cheer on my Lakers because the Lakers

1:00:52

are cooked.

1:00:54

Let's be honest.

1:00:55

Denver's that team like the West

1:00:57

runs through Denver. Now. They are the defending

1:00:59

chain with the best player in the league and the joker,

1:01:02

the best one two punch with the Joker and Jamal Murray

1:01:05

and the Lakers have had leads in all

1:01:07

three of their losses. You guys, they blew

1:01:10

ten point leads in each game, led

1:01:12

by twelve and game one, led by twenty, in Game

1:01:14

two, led by twelve, and Game three. But

1:01:17

the nail in the coffin was

1:01:19

Murray's buzzer beater in Game two in

1:01:22

Denver, with eighty falling

1:01:24

into their celebration on

1:01:27

the bench.

1:01:28

That deflated That deflated

1:01:30

the Lakers.

1:01:31

You could see it in their postgame presser

1:01:33

to be up by twenty in Denver, and if

1:01:35

they were able to bring the series back home

1:01:39

tied one one, that's a completely different

1:01:41

series, a completely different series. But

1:01:43

it's just the vibe in the

1:01:45

locker room is off. I talked to Lakers

1:01:48

reporter, my friend Niki Ka, who told me, you know,

1:01:51

they weren't pissed, which when you're down

1:01:53

three games in a series you should be. It was more

1:01:55

of an acceptance that

1:01:57

they know how much better Denver

1:02:00

is than them, And to me, that alone,

1:02:02

right there is a death sentence. But right now, let's

1:02:04

check in with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

1:02:13

Milwaukee Bucks point Guardamian Lillard diagnosed

1:02:16

with a Grade one Achilles strain. He's doubtful

1:02:18

for Game four of the playoffs tomorrow at

1:02:20

Indiana. The Patriots lead the series two games

1:02:22

to one, Cavaliers

1:02:24

at the Magic at Game four of the four or five series

1:02:26

in the East, Orlando one

1:02:29

eleven to eighty nine series now tied

1:02:31

two games apiece with Franz wagnerho

1:02:33

had thirty four and thirteen rebounds in that

1:02:35

At the end of overtime, the Carolina Hurricanes and New

1:02:38

York Islanders still tied to a piece. They're

1:02:40

moving into the second overtime now

1:02:42

with nine minutes forty two seconds left

1:02:44

in the first period, the Panthers trailing

1:02:46

the Lightning one to nothing.

1:02:48

Florida with a three to zero lead in that series.

1:02:50

Overall, the Jets have traded

1:02:53

a defensive lineman, John Franklin Myers to Denver

1:02:55

in exchange for a twenty twenty six sixth

1:02:58

round pick, less than a week after trading quarterback

1:03:01

Zach Wilson to Denver as well,

1:03:03

and in the NFL draft the sixth round

1:03:05

winding up right now, we had two

1:03:07

different a few different placekickers get drafted

1:03:10

right now, most recent one from Arkansas.

1:03:12

Cam Little is now a Jacksonville

1:03:14

Jaguar. Kamal Hayden, cornerback from

1:03:16

Tennessee is now a Kansas City chief

1:03:18

and Boston College offensive

1:03:20

guard. Christian Mahogany a member

1:03:22

of the Detroit Lions.

1:03:24

Alex Carmen back.

1:03:25

To you guys, Thank

1:03:28

you Martin.

1:03:29

You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry

1:03:31

here with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting

1:03:33

live from the tire dot Com studios

1:03:36

in Los Angeles. Now, we talked about

1:03:38

this off the top of the show. Just

1:03:40

the vibe in Detroit, right

1:03:42

with over two hundred and seventy five thousand

1:03:45

they have attendance.

1:03:46

Now they have the all time record for all of the rounds.

1:03:49

The governor of Michigan came out

1:03:51

to announce the Lions sixth round or fifth round pick

1:03:54

and said that they now

1:03:56

have seven hundred thousand in attendance

1:03:58

accounting for all three days offt Oh,

1:04:00

my gosh, Detroit is right.

1:04:02

Where do you football town?

1:04:05

Like?

1:04:05

Where do you put

1:04:08

all of those people?

1:04:09

Like?

1:04:09

That is absolutely insane.

1:04:11

But let's talk about because they had a lot

1:04:13

of legends passed and present

1:04:16

in Detroit coming together for this draft.

1:04:18

Megatron, Barry Sanders, Eminem Jared

1:04:20

kaff out there like they like those they brought

1:04:23

out everybody. And the Lions had a legendary season

1:04:25

last year, the first time in thirty two years that

1:04:27

they won a playoff game. So

1:04:30

how do you see them repeat and

1:04:32

keep pace with the rest

1:04:34

of the division with all those heavy hitters,

1:04:36

because.

1:04:37

They've gotten better.

1:04:39

And I was very curious to see how

1:04:42

Brad Holmes was going to approach

1:04:44

the draft this year because of the fact that in

1:04:47

the last couple of years the Lions

1:04:49

have needed everything. Yeah, and Brad

1:04:51

Holmes is now infamous for taking

1:04:53

best player available. You saw him and like

1:04:55

his guy to not necessarily like anybody else's.

1:04:58

Best player available.

1:04:59

Yeah, last year you saw him take a running back

1:05:01

in Jamiir Gibbs in number twelve, followed

1:05:03

by a inside

1:05:05

linebacker in Jack Campbell at number eighteen. Those

1:05:08

two positions in particular almost

1:05:11

never go in the first round. This is something

1:05:13

that you can see you see teams get

1:05:15

value for later on in the draft. Yeah,

1:05:17

but it worked out because both Jamiir

1:05:20

Gibbs and Jack Campbell are starters. Not to mention

1:05:22

there the two second round

1:05:24

picks after that, Brian Branch and

1:05:26

Saan la Porta also starters, so he

1:05:29

was able to take whoever

1:05:31

was there that they liked. Now

1:05:34

you don't have as many holes. Yeah, and I

1:05:36

was like, okay, So now is Brad Holmes going

1:05:38

to change up his draft

1:05:40

strategy a little bit where he's going to go after the

1:05:42

positions that he needs. And sure enough,

1:05:45

that's what we've seen. They've traded

1:05:47

up multiple times

1:05:49

now I think three four times at this point,

1:05:52

but even in the

1:05:54

first everything, so they have corners.

1:05:57

Yeah, they drafted.

1:05:59

Multiple defensive backs because that was their

1:06:01

biggest issue last year and the year before. They

1:06:04

thought they addressed it going into last season,

1:06:07

but then you get guys that are getting hurt.

1:06:08

You had CJ.

1:06:09

Gardner Johnson go down after the second

1:06:11

game of the season, and

1:06:13

now you realize you have to insulate that

1:06:16

position at all costs. So they went out

1:06:18

and they got Terry on Arnold, who was arguably the best

1:06:20

corner.

1:06:20

In the draft.

1:06:21

And then you keep going with this

1:06:23

position group and sure enough trading up

1:06:25

to get their guys. So it's a little bit of

1:06:27

a departure for Brad Holmes. I still think it's going to

1:06:29

work and com Hell or Highwater.

1:06:32

Destroit is going to field a complete

1:06:34

secondary this season because that is not

1:06:36

going to be what keeps them out of a

1:06:39

Super Bowl run.

1:06:41

Okay, well, but let's look at the NFC

1:06:43

North like in general, because I think it's shaping

1:06:45

up to be one of the toughest divisions this season

1:06:48

with some big new names. Obviously,

1:06:51

Detroit like made their presence known

1:06:54

last year, they are the team

1:06:56

to beat in the NFC North, but like Green Bay

1:06:58

and Jordan love like, I think surprise everybody

1:07:00

with how great of a first full.

1:07:03

Season he had with this team.

1:07:05

And then you have the Vikings getting JJ McCarthy,

1:07:07

Caleb Williams going number one overall to the

1:07:09

Bears.

1:07:10

How do you see this division shaping

1:07:13

up next season?

1:07:13

That's why I you know, I asked Shook about it because

1:07:16

last hour, he is in Cleveland,

1:07:18

he's grown up a Browns fan.

1:07:20

The AFC North was the toughest.

1:07:22

Division last year for all the reasons that he mentioned,

1:07:25

but the NFC North is coming for them this year. Yeah,

1:07:27

because there are obviously

1:07:30

the two obvious ones are Detroit who won

1:07:32

the division last year, Yeah, and then green Bay who

1:07:34

made it to the divisional round.

1:07:35

With the youngest team in the league.

1:07:37

By the way, these guys are creating a

1:07:39

foundation for sustained success.

1:07:41

That's what Green Bay does very very well. They know

1:07:43

how to build their teams. They've been doing

1:07:45

it the same way for the last three decades.

1:07:48

That is a tried and true method, and

1:07:51

clearly Brad Holmes has a track record now

1:07:53

too. These teams are now they've

1:07:55

gotten the taste of winning. They know what it's like, especially

1:07:58

in the Packers case, so they're gonna be tough

1:08:00

outs. But then you have the newcomers in

1:08:02

the Chicago Bears, who aren't used to recent success,

1:08:05

but on paper have one of the most complete

1:08:07

teams in the league right now. I

1:08:10

don't know how that's gonna go in practice,

1:08:12

which is why I want to temper expectations. And

1:08:15

then no one's giving the Vikings a shot either,

1:08:17

which I think is hysterical given the fact that you

1:08:19

have the best receiver in football

1:08:21

and Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, who

1:08:24

was a breakout rookie last year, TJ.

1:08:26

Hockinson, one of the best tight ends Aaron

1:08:28

Jones now in your backfield. By the way, inner

1:08:31

division.

1:08:33

Was what the Packers was.

1:08:34

They released him, Vikings picked him up, got

1:08:37

a good offensive line, and now you've got a

1:08:39

unit on the defensive side that could

1:08:41

potentially be a top five team too. So

1:08:44

I don't want to discount

1:08:46

the Vikings because if this all goes according to play

1:08:48

with JJ McCarthy and they're able to develop

1:08:50

him by the halfway mark of this

1:08:52

season, they're going to have a real push

1:08:55

to make maybe sneak

1:08:58

in the wild card.

1:08:58

I don't know.

1:08:59

I'm not gonna put and expectations on the.

1:09:00

Meme, but I'm gonna say top to bottom.

1:09:02

Like looking just I have all the divisions up

1:09:04

in front of me right now, top to bottom,

1:09:08

NFC North, AFC

1:09:10

North, it's gonna be. It's

1:09:12

gonna be like every

1:09:15

other division has like one

1:09:17

to two teams that you're like, those

1:09:20

are betting games, you know.

1:09:21

You hear, I'll tell you

1:09:23

what the Houston Taxans have. Yeah,

1:09:26

And.

1:09:28

But it's not.

1:09:28

But it's not like there's a lot of top to bottom.

1:09:31

It's still not top to bottom.

1:09:34

Now, Okay, Day three is

1:09:36

almost done with the draft. We've

1:09:38

had a lot of legends come out of these late

1:09:40

rounds. We kind of mentioned it, right like a Tom Brady

1:09:42

who was a sixth round. We're currently in the sixth

1:09:44

round right now. Do

1:09:47

you see is there any big names that like you're

1:09:49

kind of watching, like a late rounder

1:09:52

that wasn't maybe a Day one that

1:09:54

you're kind of keeping an eye on,

1:09:56

thinking like this is someone to watch

1:09:59

out for.

1:10:00

It's interesting because of

1:10:03

the guys that, especially any of the not so covering

1:10:06

the NFC North's I'm very plugged into

1:10:08

that division in particular. It's

1:10:10

interesting because I think that the player

1:10:13

that is going to have the most immediate

1:10:16

impact, Yeah, is the

1:10:18

Bear's last pick, which

1:10:21

was a punter. You had

1:10:23

Tory Taylor out of Iowa, who was the

1:10:25

best punter in college table and got a ton of work because

1:10:28

I was offense was absolutely atrocious. I mean,

1:10:30

Tory Tory was on the field

1:10:32

more than their quarterback. I'm not kidding, like it

1:10:35

was just sign.

1:10:38

I get that he has a lot of experience.

1:10:40

I get that he's the best punter. I'm

1:10:42

never really gonna be on board with

1:10:45

drafting a specialist because

1:10:47

especially with I mean the fourth round,

1:10:49

you can get.

1:10:50

But they took the punter before they got their edge

1:10:52

rusher, right. That was

1:10:54

kind of because that was something big

1:10:56

that they.

1:10:57

Needed but they needed and I think it might

1:10:59

have been one of the things where they didn't want to

1:11:01

have to give up future assets

1:11:03

to go and get a punter. But then I'm like,

1:11:06

like, I understand both sides of it, Like that's a

1:11:08

huge need. The Bears were not a good punting unit last

1:11:11

year. But I caution

1:11:13

against judging these

1:11:15

guys from their body of work in college because the

1:11:18

pro game is so different, even from a mental

1:11:20

standpoint, Like, I'm old enough to remember Mark kicking,

1:11:23

and he's a.

1:11:23

Good friend of mine. I know we

1:11:26

love Marquette, we do.

1:11:27

But he lasted a couple of

1:11:29

years in the league, did well, but then

1:11:32

kind of fell off cliff and then I saw him punting in the USFL

1:11:34

last year. Yes, and then I

1:11:36

also when he comes to punters and kickers,

1:11:39

kickers, I almost get more because of the rule changes.

1:11:41

But I also was part of the Buccaneers

1:11:44

that traded up to the second round to get apparently

1:11:46

the best college kicker ever in Roberto

1:11:48

Aguayo. Now I get the second round is completely

1:11:50

different than the fourth, But it's

1:11:53

just it's too much of a gamble for me to

1:11:55

spend valuable assets on. Even

1:11:58

though this punter is going to be the one to

1:12:00

actually affect games for the Chicago

1:12:03

Bears. I just hope it works out because

1:12:05

otherwise that's gonna be kind of a blemish on

1:12:07

what was otherwise a fantastic draft for the Chicago

1:12:09

Bears.

1:12:10

It's just so crazy because again, every

1:12:12

draft pick is a gamble, Like you don't know how

1:12:14

somebody is going to pan out.

1:12:16

Once they enter the NFL.

1:12:17

It is a completely different game,

1:12:20

different speed, bigger guys, more

1:12:22

intent.

1:12:22

So it's like you hope,

1:12:25

well, you hope it all works out, but you never

1:12:28

know.

1:12:29

All Right, It's been fun though, and it's still going

1:12:31

on. Like again, i'd set off the top like Draft

1:12:33

day just warms my heart because

1:12:36

it's a lifetime of work, a

1:12:38

dream coming true in a single moment.

1:12:40

Oh yeah, it's so beautiful.

1:12:42

All Right, We're gonna take one more break here, but when

1:12:44

we come back, never give up on

1:12:46

something that is yours. Listening

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to Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back to

1:12:51

Fox Sports Saturday.

1:12:53

Welcome back to.

1:12:53

Fox Sports Saturday and Alex carry Heer with Carmen Vitali.

1:12:56

We are broadcasting live from the Tire

1:12:58

dot Com Studios in Los Angeles. We've had

1:13:00

such a like an eclectic

1:13:02

group of music today. Dude,

1:13:04

Christmas killing it last week too. I swear it's

1:13:07

been he's been on it.

1:13:09

Can we get like, what's the inspo?

1:13:11

Bin?

1:13:11

What's the vibe?

1:13:12

Like?

1:13:13

Just what we're feeling each commercial break?

1:13:15

No, I it's just whatever the vibe is.

1:13:17

I don't know.

1:13:18

I'm right now.

1:13:19

Okay, Okay, what we've gone

1:13:21

alternative, We've gone like all over

1:13:23

the place.

1:13:24

But I love it.

1:13:24

Literally went top thumping.

1:13:26

Yeah.

1:13:29

It puts a smile on our face and anyone else is gonna

1:13:31

put a smile on your face.

1:13:33

Our feel good story. Great transition

1:13:35

of the week, I know, transition queen over here.

1:13:37

Okay, Reggie Bush finally

1:13:40

got his Heisman trophy back after

1:13:43

fourteen years of forfeiting

1:13:45

it, and you guys, it's about

1:13:48

damn time, Like this is.

1:13:49

It's about damn time. That's what you should have played, Chris

1:13:51

Ah.

1:13:53

It's just let it be a life

1:13:55

lesson to people.

1:13:57

Never stop fighting for

1:13:59

what is yours and stop believing

1:14:02

in yourself. Because he got punished

1:14:04

for something that is now part of

1:14:06

the nil college football landscape,

1:14:09

and it's hard to punish someone for something

1:14:12

that is now being celebrated and

1:14:14

taught there's classes, students

1:14:16

are making millions of dollars.

1:14:18

Yeah, off of all of this.

1:14:20

Real ones, real ones always knew

1:14:23

Reggie Bush as a Heisman winner and knew

1:14:25

that trophy hadn't gone anywhere. I really appreciate

1:14:27

though that Johnny Manziel was like, you know what, No, enough

1:14:30

is enough. I am not coming to the

1:14:32

Heisman ceremony anymore until

1:14:35

you get Reggie back his Heisman.

1:14:36

See, that's the coolest thing is it's

1:14:39

a brotherhood.

1:14:39

Well now he gets to be part of all

1:14:41

the Heisman celebration stuff moving forward

1:14:44

because it's an elite club and he deserves

1:14:47

to be there. He was the best of the best

1:14:49

during his time and too, I

1:14:52

can't even imagine what that feels like to

1:14:55

have something ripped away from you

1:14:57

and to live in that like but that

1:14:59

like it's almost like your identity getting taken

1:15:01

away from you for something that's.

1:15:03

Part of it.

1:15:03

Heisman winner is something that precludes your

1:15:06

name whenever you.

1:15:07

Are brought up.

1:15:08

It's how you are introduced. Yes, it's

1:15:10

like when you it's if you win an Emmy, if

1:15:13

you're all.

1:15:14

The super Bowl, when you have a gold jacket, if any

1:15:16

of that, like that is that is right up there.

1:15:18

You will forever be known. They always say

1:15:21

they can never take that away from you once you get it, except

1:15:23

they did take it away from Reggie Bush, and I

1:15:26

hated that for him, but real ones never

1:15:28

never lost faith. I'm just glad that he

1:15:30

finally has it back, and I right he can he can participate

1:15:32

in all.

1:15:33

Did you see the Nissan commercials? There is

1:15:36

that what it is?

1:15:37

Oh, the Heisman House is the thing on the on Nissan

1:15:39

commercials because Nissan sponsors either the

1:15:41

award itself or they're just a College of Alell sponsor.

1:15:43

So all of the guys are like in the house. Like you've

1:15:45

got like Tim Tebow driving.

1:15:46

The car that comes

1:15:48

up like with some like cook and something.

1:15:51

So yes, that's like you

1:15:53

Now, Reggie Bush is in the Heisman House.

1:15:57

You know.

1:15:57

I'm just so like what Reggie

1:15:59

says.

1:16:00

Personally, I'm thrilled to reunite with my

1:16:02

fellow Heisman winners and be a part of the

1:16:04

storied legacy of the Heisman

1:16:06

Trophy. I'm honored to return to the Heisman family.

1:16:09

Because that's what it is.

1:16:09

It's really like getting to be

1:16:12

back with your family, your brother,

1:16:14

and I love it there was did you see did I

1:16:16

just say this?

1:16:17

Did you see like the.

1:16:18

Billboards around town that were like give

1:16:20

Reggie as Heisman back, like they were

1:16:22

like full pr push,

1:16:25

which was amazing. But Carvin, we

1:16:27

have one more.

1:16:28

We have two feel.

1:16:29

Good stories of the week here

1:16:32

and our second one. It's

1:16:34

all good vibes here. We're all ending on great vibes.

1:16:36

That's what we do here. Caitlin

1:16:38

Clark reportedly signing a twenty

1:16:41

eight million dollar deal with

1:16:43

Nike, which

1:16:45

includes her signature shoe.

1:16:47

Like again, but let's

1:16:49

give a round.

1:16:50

Of applause here, because there's a lot of shock when people

1:16:52

realize how much she was going to be getting paid

1:16:55

in the w NBA, Like it

1:16:58

is shocking when you when

1:17:00

you find out I found out a couple of years ago, like what we're

1:17:02

actually making and I'm like, that's over how many

1:17:05

years?

1:17:06

What that's like not even.

1:17:09

Like an NBA draft D's like signing bonus,

1:17:12

especially for someone.

1:17:13

Right league minimum in the NBA.

1:17:15

It's ridiculous, Like this is someone who

1:17:18

her jerseys for

1:17:20

the Fever sold out

1:17:22

in every single size on draft

1:17:25

night.

1:17:25

So Tayler Williams then broke that record.

1:17:28

Taylor Williams just broke. That's

1:17:30

Chicago fans for you.

1:17:31

Sure is.

1:17:32

They are ready for this new next

1:17:34

generation everything happening.

1:17:36

But these shoes are gonna fly off.

1:17:38

To Oh I'll be I'm gonna try

1:17:40

to get get a pair, but like

1:17:42

I don't know that I'm gonna be able to. It's gonna

1:17:44

be like, you know, one of those I need a plug, I need,

1:17:46

I need a sneakers plug first of all. I need a sneakers plug anyway,

1:17:48

because that's how you get any of these shoes. But they're gonna

1:17:51

fly. They're gonna be one of those ones that are

1:17:53

like sold out within minutes.

1:17:54

Yeah, and I want to get your T shirt plug my

1:17:56

teacher. Oh yeah, Homage you have

1:17:59

it? Oh gup, hey,

1:18:01

Homage, got my girl up.

1:18:03

Alex Curry, Yeah, there be

1:18:05

some cool stuff to wear on our show, because that

1:18:07

would be really cool.

1:18:08

They're wonderful to me.

1:18:09

I've just taken to wearing all my homage and home field for

1:18:11

that matter, homefield is college, homage is

1:18:13

pros. I've taken to wearing all these shirts

1:18:15

on our radio show.

1:18:16

So there's already but.

1:18:17

There's already been like the Kaitlin Clark effect.

1:18:19

We've seen it just with most

1:18:22

of her games are now going to be nationally broadcast,

1:18:25

which has and.

1:18:26

Hopefully this whole Kaitlyn Clark

1:18:28

effect extends to the commissioner

1:18:30

of the w NBA talked about wanting

1:18:33

to renegotiate the media rights deal and

1:18:35

now looking for double what

1:18:37

they were getting before, which will have the

1:18:39

trickle down effect of paying these players

1:18:41

more, of giving it the giving

1:18:43

the w NBA to do it deserves and these athletes

1:18:46

that do they deserve. Not that it's going

1:18:48

to necessarily catch up to the NBA super

1:18:50

quickly, no, but the product has

1:18:53

been great and hopefully yeah, like Kaitlin

1:18:55

Clark, the CLA. The biggest thing about

1:18:57

the Kaitlin Clark effect is that it hopefully means

1:18:59

prog for the sport.

1:19:01

As a whole. Yeah, that is that

1:19:03

is like this, those are the stakes here.

1:19:05

Not even just the sport as

1:19:07

a whole, but for women's sports in general, because what

1:19:09

it comes down to is brands believing

1:19:12

in the product and putting up the money the same

1:19:14

way that they're putting up money for the men the men's yes, exactly.

1:19:16

And that is going to again have the domino.

1:19:18

Effect of like, all right, well, if these brands are paying all

1:19:20

this money, yeah, and then the like it'll

1:19:22

go both ways because if the league

1:19:24

is more visible and more eyes are on these

1:19:27

players and there are more nationally televised games,

1:19:29

guess what brands are going to pay more for that because that's

1:19:32

more exposure for them. And

1:19:34

it's a symbiotic relationship that can work

1:19:37

very very well. And Caitlyn Clark is the catalyst

1:19:39

for a lot of this. Not to say that she's the

1:19:41

first person deserving of being.

1:19:42

Knowl she is the most.

1:19:44

She is the first polarizing

1:19:47

figure woman basketball player

1:19:49

that is shifting the culture. She's

1:19:52

getting people who didn't watch I

1:19:55

would say, maybe didn't even watch basketball, tune

1:19:58

in to watch her play.

1:20:00

And you again, like I want to go.

1:20:02

There are plenty of exceptional

1:20:04

women's players that played there for her, and

1:20:07

it's just now kind of catching fire.

1:20:09

And I'm really really glad that there's

1:20:11

such a good steward of the game in Caitlin Clark.

1:20:13

You know what I've noticed too, a lot of the playoff

1:20:17

NBA sponsored commercials now

1:20:19

have the WNBA and the.

1:20:21

NBA logo'm because they're getting

1:20:23

on the WNBA film.

1:20:24

This feels like there's movement, all right.

1:20:26

Guys, thank you so much for spending your Saturday

1:20:29

afternoon with Carmea and me. I hope you

1:20:31

have a great Saturday and Sunday and

1:20:33

we'll see you all next week