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VJ, how are you doing on this Fox Football

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Saturday. I'm doing out standing as always.

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Man, What up to everybody out there? And Fox Sports

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Radio listening to Land right now, to Martin,

1:00

I'm doing great. It has been a great week. It's

1:02

been a great week of sports. I'm full of energy,

1:04

and the draft isn't mercifully over for me.

1:07

You know, I enjoy it. I take a bunch

1:09

of notes. I watched so much college

1:11

football. I felt like I was more prepared for this

1:13

draft than I was for any

1:16

of the maybe previous six or seven,

1:18

and was just locked into so many players. I thought

1:20

this was a great draft. I thought there was great value

1:23

that was got in the third, fourth, and

1:26

fifth rounds, guys that I believe are going to

1:28

play their rookie season. Some of

1:30

them may end up starting. You know how the NFL

1:32

works where it looks one way in April,

1:34

man, but by the time you get to August, there's the June

1:37

one cuts, there's injuries in preseason, there's

1:39

training camp, there's holdouts. There's so much

1:41

that happens that some of these young talented

1:43

guys that would high football character.

1:46

That because most of your roster

1:48

is made up between what the third and fifth

1:50

round is the most of your guys, there was a

1:52

lot of value there today. So it

1:54

felt great. Like you mentioned, NHL playoffs are

1:56

ridiculous, Covering my first NHL

1:59

game in my lifeline last night, that was great,

2:01

And then the NBA playoffs is just you

2:03

know, bananas. Teams are losing.

2:06

It shouldn't be losing when it shouldn't be winning. It looks

2:08

like we might have two mega legend superstars

2:10

on their way home with some brooms later

2:13

tonight and tomorrow.

2:14

We saw several records

2:17

be tied or broken on Thursday

2:19

night when the draft started. Just to check

2:21

a counter, it is Saturday, now. That's

2:23

how long it took to get

2:25

through this thing. But

2:28

if you can remember, if you're old, if you could remember

2:31

back all those days ago,

2:34

we had six one, two,

2:36

three, four, five, six quarterbacks

2:38

taken in the first round. That ties

2:40

the record for most since nineteen eighty

2:43

three. Also the first time that

2:45

we have seen six quarterbacks taken in the top

2:47

twelve picks. It's the first time

2:49

in the Common Draft era that four

2:51

quarterbacks were taken in the top eight picks.

2:54

First time in the Common Draft era that five

2:56

quarterbacks were taken in the top ten

2:59

picks in the first time.

3:01

Fourth time in the Common Draft era that.

3:04

Three overall first three overall picks

3:06

for quarterbacks. I mean,

3:09

and not only that, it's

3:11

almost like the rest of the enda. I got this

3:13

game on my phone called Retro Bowl, right,

3:16

you draft defensive.

3:17

Players, but you don't play it's supposed to be.

3:19

It's like Techmo Bowl, but like the you know, updated

3:21

versions for your cell phone, but like if the players

3:24

are all in the same graphics and so on, you actually will probably

3:26

really enjoy the game, but you don't end up playing

3:28

defense unlike it. But in the

3:30

NFL you do have to play defense. I don't know if

3:32

they know that, because the first fifteen picks

3:35

are fourteen picks, I should say we're offensive

3:37

players in the draft.

3:38

You gotta score, I guess

3:40

you gotta score. Fun game, you gotta score.

3:43

I have it on my phone too.

3:44

I've been playing with Michigan I on like ten national championships

3:46

in a row. Anyway, he

3:50

loves the computer game more than the real team.

3:52

Look at that, any who look at that?

3:55

Now, you gotta score points, Martin. You gotta score

3:57

poard. That's what this told me. You gotta score

4:00

to keep up with the Kansas City's. You know, people

4:02

think Cincinnati and Borough be you know, Burro's

4:04

back, right. Jimmy Bergers has got hard, He's

4:06

got He's got Herbert Herbert San Francisco

4:09

forty nine ers the Dolphins with with two of

4:11

the the Cincinnati, the

4:13

Bengals. I'm sorry with bar are mentioning them the Bills.

4:16

Uh, there's there's quarterbacks in

4:18

teams you have to score with. When I

4:20

saw this run of offensive players, honestly,

4:23

dog my eyes lit up. I said, Okay, teams

4:25

are like no, no, no, we're getting We're getting guys

4:28

that can go put points on the

4:30

board. Yeah, you gotta play defense, but in the postseason

4:32

you got to outscore guys too. So what was your

4:34

biggest surprise on

4:37

Thursday? Low hanging Yeah, low

4:39

hanging fruit. But I just think it's the obvious

4:41

one. But I have an opposite opinion

4:43

than most people, and that was Michael Pennis Junior

4:46

to Atlanta. And I know most people

4:48

really shot that down. They don't like to pick. They

4:50

think, well, you got Kirk Cousins. I the

4:53

way I saw that is the Falcons. They're not

4:55

worried about this season. They're building

4:58

a team. If you look around pro sports

5:00

right now, the building teams, the building

5:02

franchise, Martin, those are the teams that

5:04

are winning. The superstars, the

5:06

individual guys that have average

5:09

teams or not good teams are not winning. You

5:11

have to build. I think this is smart

5:13

for the future. I agree with the SoundBite

5:15

from the GM sitting there with his

5:17

head coach, but I like this

5:20

pick because I like the ideology of it.

5:22

You've gone younget receiver recently, you've

5:24

gone young get running back with Bjeon Robinson.

5:26

But you are throwing out this mid thirty year

5:28

old, one hundred guarantee million dollars of one hundred

5:31

and eighty million dollars quarterback out there. You better

5:33

have some insurance. If you love

5:35

this class as much as people do,

5:38

then go get one of these

5:40

guys. Now, all these

5:42

guys aren't gonna start Opening Day, all

5:44

these quarterbacks and I start open to day, somebody's

5:47

gonna have to sit. I'm not sure who it is, but there's

5:49

gonna be somebody that has to sit. But if you love a

5:51

guy, I don't know who's gonna be Michael

5:53

Pennix Junior. Yeah, well, of course Michael Pennix

5:55

Junior'll be sitting. But I do like the fact you put him

5:58

behind a professional veteran, You

6:00

put him in a city that's gonna embrace him. You

6:02

put him with a team that's got some young offense weapons

6:04

that you've been building over the last few years. And

6:06

what if Kurt doesn't come back, then

6:09

you got a guy that you trust, a guy you evaluated,

6:11

a guy you got all they've done, all they've done their job,

6:13

they've had him in. You're poking prode. Do

6:15

you go through the pre draft process and the draft

6:18

process. He was sitting there for them. That's

6:20

who they wanted. If they wanted to take somebody else,

6:22

they would have. I know that shocked everybody, but

6:24

I like the fact that they're looking ahead

6:27

and they're not winning nothing now, so

6:29

why would you try to go grab a guy that make it

6:31

help you. There's not a guy that would help Atlanta

6:33

win now, but there might be a guy that

6:35

can help Atlanta win down the road

6:37

in building a team with these young

6:40

pieces that they've accumulated over the last two

6:42

seasons. So I like to pick. It was surprising,

6:44

It was like a oh bleep, but

6:47

then said it like, you know what, I

6:50

like this though, I see where they're.

6:52

Going and I like this, So that was

6:54

mine. Yeah, it was by far to me, not

6:56

only the worst pick of the draft, but it makes it

6:59

just it's it's logically, who

7:01

do you take if you're then there? It is logically

7:04

if I'm going to take one of these

7:07

quarterbacks in the top ten. I'm not paying

7:09

Kirk Cousins one hundred million dollars guaranteed

7:11

one hundred and fifty over three years. Like,

7:14

that's not a bridge quarterback salary. That's a

7:16

guy you expect to come in and start and make

7:18

a significant impact on your roster.

7:20

You say, who could they have drafted? Well, I don't

7:22

have the lift in front of me of who they should have drafted,

7:25

right, you know what I'm saying in terms, but somebody

7:27

who's going to see the field this year. When you draft

7:29

a guy in the first round, you're expecting him

7:32

to step in and start to play, right,

7:34

And the only real exception in that list

7:37

is quarterback, right, Whereas sometimes

7:40

down the line you'll see a guy. Now,

7:43

of course I can't think of any but the guys who started,

7:46

you know, they didn't start immediately and end up

7:48

coming in you know, week six or week

7:50

seven or week eight, you know, after they get

7:52

a little bit more acclimated to the NFL, right

7:55

acclimated to quarterback.

7:56

We've seen guys like c. J. Straud Kyler, Murray

7:58

Dustin Herbert.

8:00

Herbert was a slated to start end up starting with Tyrod

8:02

Taylor got punctured in the lunk boom.

8:04

Now all those guys, but they're in there

8:06

immediately. Right. If

8:09

you are the Atlanta Falcons.

8:12

Either you sign Kirk Cousins

8:14

to one hundred million dollars guaranteed

8:18

or you draft a quarterback. But

8:21

spending one hundred and forty

8:23

so million dollars in the quarterback

8:25

position right now makes

8:28

no sense. Right If you say they're

8:30

a team that's not gonna win anyway, well, if you're

8:32

not gonna win anyway.

8:33

Then you shouldn't. I mean, first of all, it

8:35

was questionable in.

8:36

The first place to sign Kirk Cousins

8:38

to one hundred million dollars guaranteed at thirty

8:40

six years old, coming off of an achilles tendon

8:43

injury. There's no guarantee that

8:45

he's going to be the player that he was

8:47

even in his career, which, mind you, that's

8:49

one one playoff win

8:52

in the entirety of his career.

8:53

Okay, So then can I argue though that fine,

8:56

maybe they thought this, but preseason, pre

8:58

excuse me, free agency, come way

9:00

before the draft. What if what if I can argue,

9:02

Okay, maybe they realizing that might have been a mistake,

9:05

But now you gotta go get a quarterback now,

9:07

just in case. So maybe we should have thought

9:09

would it be better? But we're gonna make a decision

9:11

now. We can't. We can't. We can't compile

9:13

it right, We can't. We can't double up

9:16

on a bad decision. And what take a receiver right

9:18

here and kirk Cousins goes down. So now who's throwing

9:20

to this receiver that you drafted in the first round.

9:22

Listen, if that's the case,

9:25

if you thought that Kirk Cousins was going

9:27

to obstensibly like the outline

9:29

you just said, if you thought he was going to fail, they

9:32

don't.

9:33

Not initially, not initially, but I'm I'm

9:36

kind of agreeing with you, but just giving a different

9:38

view from Okay, they made a mistake. What

9:40

if they, like I said, what if that in the rooms go? You know what, God,

9:43

we blew that we bleue signing kirk

9:45

Cousins to this money. So we

9:47

might need to pivot. It'd be better to pivot

9:50

right now then try to pivot

9:52

later. We shouldn't have signed them, and we

9:54

should have evaluated these quarterbacks, but

9:56

we still gotta but now we gotta go get here.

9:58

But then my question, if I'm Arthur

10:00

Blake, who we saw in the war that

10:02

conversation, my question is what

10:05

in God's Green Earth could have

10:07

possibly changed on April

10:10

twenty fifth than it did from

10:12

when it was it March whatever.

10:14

Was like thirteenth March, and when you can start to sign

10:16

what.

10:17

God's Green Earth changed six weeks

10:19

and the sixth week period in between

10:21

Kirk coming down here, in which

10:23

mind you VJ.

10:25

They have a whole.

10:26

Investigation out about the way it was done

10:28

right in terms of the temperance. So not only

10:31

did you go get him, you probably went a little

10:33

too early and having a conversation to

10:35

go get him, to.

10:36

Just turn around and draft Michael Pennix,

10:39

Like, it makes sense to me, man, It makes it

10:42

makes sense to me because I'm.

10:43

Just saying two plus two is five. It's

10:46

saying that sun rises in the west.

10:48

No, it's saying that they might have realized they made a mistake

10:50

markin so this draft pick is to try

10:52

to rectify. Now then going

10:54

through this season here that and missing out

10:57

on court one of these cutter backs.

10:58

Everybody loves this class. I hear what you're

11:00

saying in terms you might have made a mistake there,

11:03

But you saw

11:05

the wire like slip. Charles said, it's

11:07

a.

11:07

Lot did we fight on that line? Fight

11:09

on that because I.

11:11

Got you gotta turn around a litt and

11:13

answer to your to not only

11:15

the ownership base, but also your fan

11:18

base. You just signed your quarterback

11:20

of the future. If you don't feel like he's

11:22

a quarterback of the future, you can't pay

11:24

him that much money. You just can't

11:26

do it.

11:27

You're right, But I think it's a time. At the time

11:29

they signed him, I think they felt he.

11:31

Was so this This is the difference between

11:33

what Minnesota did and what

11:36

Atlanta did. Minnesota signs

11:38

JJ McCarty, trades drives JJ

11:40

McCarthy, but they already have

11:42

their bridge quarterback. They have a potential

11:44

day one starter in Sam Darnold.

11:47

Right now, is he gonna start? I don't know.

11:51

Does he have a leg up in this moment? I think

11:53

probably right, we'll see right now.

11:55

But it's way too early on April twenty

11:57

seventh to say who's gonna win the position battle.

12:00

But the point of the matter is you'll have

12:02

a position battle because Sam Darnald

12:04

is making peanuts and compared

12:07

Sam Donald is getting paid like a

12:09

safety Okay.

12:10

You don't think they'll give Pinnicks a chance to win the job.

12:12

I mean when you're in training camp,

12:14

when the players are sitting there watching. We've

12:16

seen it before where Matt

12:18

Flynn got signed to the big deal and Russell Wilson

12:21

was just tearing them.

12:22

Up because you imagine Pennis

12:24

kind of named the starter like outplayed

12:26

Kirk Kains in preseason. First of all, league

12:29

was ready yet?

12:29

First of all, yes, I can imagine, which

12:32

is why I said, who would sign Kirkuzzins to one hundred

12:34

million dollars?

12:34

Guaranteed?

12:35

He's thirty six? So then can I say then

12:37

the pick was right?

12:38

Then right?

12:39

Because all right, so I'm not okay, one

12:41

of two has to be wrong. Okay, that's

12:43

what one of two has to be wrong. Right,

12:46

Either you draft the quarterback or

12:50

you signed the free agent quarterback to one

12:52

hundred million dollars and you and you then

12:54

draft somebody along the way who

12:56

is going to see the field for you year

12:59

one. The best case scenario

13:02

of this is Michael Pennix,

13:04

who finished out of his five college seasons,

13:07

four of them on the injured reserve list. Okay,

13:10

is that Michael Pennix seized

13:12

the field year.

13:13

Three at the earliest, like

13:16

season before then, I do. That's

13:19

but that's that's the best case

13:21

scenario.

13:22

That's if Kirk plays well, like you like,

13:24

it's just if you if you thought that Kirk Cousins

13:26

was gonna be so bad that think

13:28

about the other teams that drafted the first round quarterback.

13:31

All right, Denver, what

13:33

did they do? They traded away Russell

13:35

Wilson, got Zach Wilson.

13:37

The Jets had to be like, no, please, We'll

13:39

give you Zach Wilson and a seventh rounder.

13:41

Okay, just get him off of our books.

13:43

All right. Then you have the Bears they

13:46

traded away justin fields.

13:47

You have the Patriots they don't have They traded

13:50

away Matt Jones.

13:51

Who else am I thinking? Oh?

13:53

You had the commanders they traded Say

13:55

where Sam Howell? He ain't a commander? No

13:57

more like you don't you

13:59

can not in a salary cap sport. If

14:02

this was baseball, sure, why not?

14:04

You know what I'm saying?

14:05

Like, why not sign all three of the

14:07

best, all three first basement and

14:09

if stee if one can play the outfield, see if

14:11

one, you know, and move one around.

14:13

But this is football. There's only one quarterback

14:15

on the field at a time, and you're not

14:18

using Michael Patticks ever, Tartket, this is

14:20

going to be an interesting storyline

14:22

all off season along with what's going

14:25

on in Pittsburgh with their quarterback. Was it like

14:27

the quarterback ruled the

14:29

weekend and it's going to rule the off

14:32

season talk until we kick

14:34

off in September. I cannot

14:36

freaking wait, and I'm glad.

14:38

To get to this point now because I absolutely

14:41

like, I.

14:41

Don't like this just to almost

14:43

said a bad word.

14:44

I don't like to to pooh pooh all over

14:46

it, but I hate the pre draft lead up like

14:48

I can't stand oh, I hate draft

14:51

prospect for team. I hate I can't

14:53

stand at all because there's too much time and

14:55

not enough games played right, there's

14:57

nothing happening right for a guy to and

15:01

then we talk about, oh, look at the big riders,

15:03

look at the big fallers.

15:04

You know what it means.

15:05

It would be like, you know, you know what the weatherman does when

15:07

he says it's going to be eighty five and Sonny and it starts

15:09

to rain, he.

15:10

Goes, oh, it wasn't rain. Was such a surprise. No,

15:12

the weather man was wrong, right, So

15:15

if you don't code front coming behind

15:17

that one, like if you're.

15:19

Doing these mocks and it's different to where you have guys

15:21

graded because I thought that.

15:22

I didn't think that McCarthy, Pennix, nort Nicks

15:24

would have been first round. Like I didn't give a first

15:26

round. I didn't give a first round.

15:28

That's different than what you think is going to actually

15:30

happen.

15:31

Right, if you.

15:32

Didn't have six quarterbacks in your

15:34

first round mock, I don't want to hear it.

15:36

I don't want to hear it. Go home, you're not good

15:38

at this anymore. I said five. I knew five

15:40

was going the sixth the way Atlanta

15:43

threw the monkey wrench in when Atlanta took Pinnicks

15:45

because the people had him rank the fifth and sixth quarterback.

15:48

When Atlanta took Pinnis, that said,

15:50

okay, well six are going then, because you know

15:52

JJ's going and you know now someone's

15:54

gonna feel like, okay, we got to

15:56

kind of take what's left and if we need

15:59

them, bo Nicks and that's and

16:01

then that's how it went down. Another quarterback

16:03

wasn't taking until spot one point fifty. Your

16:05

guy to your team. I

16:08

know that I told you, I told you, I

16:10

knew it. I knew it. I knew it. I told

16:12

I know when I saw that pick I said,

16:14

I will get a happy Saint Martin, Now

16:17

I'll get a happy because he loves this kid

16:19

and a Spencer Ratler watch

16:22

out guy. Only day that was Derek Carter, go

16:25

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16:28

Retreat coming up

16:30

next. Uh.

16:31

This one general manager, in my opinion,

16:34

is being wildly incredibly

16:36

hypocritical.

16:37

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18:13

Let's go ahead and get to this quick. I want to hear Colts

18:16

GM, Chris Bowler. This is after they

18:18

drafted at a nin Mitchell wide receiver out

18:21

of Texas.

18:21

Ad Mitchell, I mean.

18:22

I read some of the that

18:24

was set on tea.

18:25

I mean just a typical excuse

18:28

my language, our typical league

18:31

up named.

18:31

Sources, you know, bad

18:34

interview. That's such book. I mean

18:36

it is.

18:37

It's like put your

18:39

name, like, put your name on it. We

18:41

tear these young men down. These are twenty one, twenty

18:44

two young men. And if you can,

18:46

if people out there can tell me they're perfect

18:48

in their lives, it's crap.

18:50

It's crap. This is a good kid.

18:53

And you know, for those reports to

18:55

come out, like you know, I said it last

18:57

year.

18:57

It's it's book. I'm

18:59

sorry. I apologize for the language. I

19:01

don't but I do.

19:03

Now, before you talk about how much you love what he

19:05

just said, I just want to say, and

19:07

I'm predicting that we haven't talked about this, but I already

19:09

no VJ has a crusade against unnamed

19:12

source journalism.

19:13

But here's the thing.

19:14

Chris Ballard himself, I'm I

19:16

would I would bet the rest of my career

19:19

that Chris Ballard himself was

19:21

an unnamed source in at least in the last three

19:24

drafts definitely the last draft, like you know saying

19:26

he himself is an unnamed

19:28

source and knows just exactly

19:30

the reason why some people are saying

19:32

they're not tying their names to these opinions,

19:35

right because they might have to draft a

19:37

kid. They may they may believe

19:39

all of it, right whatever out

19:41

of that Mitchell has been accused of. They

19:43

may believe all of it and still draft the kid.

19:46

That's why they don't want to put their names on it. And

19:48

the idea that he's doing this dance is

19:50

simply because that he is the one that

19:52

that drafted him.

19:53

That's it. That's the only reason why. That's this whole

19:56

deal about it.

19:56

And we'll see another GM somewhere down the line

19:59

who drafts another kid who has some character

20:01

concerns along the way, and he'll do the same

20:03

little song and dance.

20:04

But it's just very, very hypocritical in

20:06

my opinion. Hey man, listen, real talk,

20:09

Hey hey Jim, and say with your chest,

20:11

say with your chess man he let him

20:13

know, Man, don't come after the kid

20:15

that I draft. But you're right, it is hypocritical.

20:18

But at the end of the day, the day,

20:21

if you know somebody being hypocritical.

20:23

Then put your name on what you're

20:25

gonna say about somebody and what you're gonna

20:27

say about a situation. My partner

20:30

to my writer is right, I have a crusade

20:33

against anonymous journalists.

20:35

Put your name on what you're going

20:38

to say. Be a man or woman,

20:40

stand up and whatever you're gonna

20:43

say. I'm the type of guy. If you got something to say

20:45

to me, say it to my face, don't say it behind

20:47

my back. I'll respect you more if

20:49

you say it in my face or you say it in my presence.

20:51

But if I got to hear that you say it behind my back,

20:53

you're not even real enough to say something about

20:55

me about Obviously. A way you really feel,

20:58

if you really feel certain about some of these, is

21:00

to put it out. The NFL draft process,

21:02

the pre draft process is a real

21:04

It could be an invading picking process.

21:07

For the fans out there that don't really follow

21:09

the draft like that, you just get your nachos

21:12

and your wings and your Sodain beer and you watch NFL

21:14

football, play fantasy and you enjoy cool with guys

21:16

like us. We follow this every day, three

21:18

sixty five every year. You hear

21:21

and know what goes on in

21:23

these draft processes. So he has a point

21:25

there, But Martin's right, you're

21:27

part of this too. Now you're not a guy

21:29

on the outside looking in. You're in

21:31

this mix too, and you'll put a filler out

21:33

there. Gamesmanship. Right, let me say

21:36

something about this kid. So this team doesn't

21:38

drafted. But no, no, no, we can can We

21:40

got them. We're good. Come on over here, buddy, Yeah, get

21:42

right here, say right here. You're gonna score

21:44

a lot of touchdowns and make a lot of money for us. I

21:46

just didn't want you going to them, so I feel you. But that

21:48

anonymous thing, you got something to say,

21:50

man, you know, say it.

21:53

We don't want to run through the whole journalism

21:55

one on one of why sources come out

21:57

and be anonymous? But cool, No, I'm not gonn.

22:00

I was just saying I got you. Yeah,

22:02

of course we got kick it over to Steve de

22:04

Seger in the same Now, Steve, what's going

22:06

on, my friend, miss Steve?

22:08

Well?

22:08

NFL draft is finally over. I think

22:10

we were counting the days plural on that one.

22:13

So now we've got the flory

22:15

of signings of people that were not drafted

22:18

in the seven rounds, and that includes

22:20

the Bills signing running back Frank Gore Junior

22:23

from Southern Nice. As we look

22:25

down the list, we also noticed by the way

22:27

that Tanner Mordecai, Wisconsin quarterback

22:30

has signed with the San Francisco forty

22:32

nine ers. I noticed a UCLA

22:34

and you see running backs each taken.

22:37

We had.

22:37

By the way, Spencer Ratler finally drafted

22:40

today. This was rounds four through seven.

22:42

To end the draft today, South Carolina

22:44

quarterback ex of Oklahoma Rattler goes

22:47

to the New Orleans Saints in the fifth round.

22:49

Also in the fifth round, Jordan Travis, Florida

22:51

state quarterback goes to the New York Jets.

22:54

A couple qbs of note. In round six,

22:56

Tennessee quarterback Joe Milton to New

22:58

England Kentucky quarterback Devin

23:00

Leary of Baltimore. I would say they started

23:02

at other schools, but I think everybody starts

23:04

at a difference. That would

23:07

be redundant. So yeah, seven rounds are

23:09

in the books and the signings are

23:11

still coming through. By the way, quarterback

23:13

Sam Hartman Notre Dame to the Washington Commanders.

23:16

For example, USC running

23:18

back Austin Jones to Washington. BYU

23:20

quarterback Keaton Slovas, who started at USC

23:23

to the Colts in the NBA playoffs.

23:26

Lakers trying to save the season going

23:28

up against the Denver Nuggets in just a few

23:30

minutes in LA. That's the late NBA playoff

23:32

game tonight. Nuggets are leading three games

23:35

to none. Before you ask out loud,

23:37

is there a chance that the Lakers win this and extend

23:39

the series? Well, you may have seen

23:42

the body language bro on

23:45

the court and in the crowd perhaps of the game

23:48

three loss. Yet another double digit

23:50

lead blown in this series to Denver. How

23:52

about this from the folks at stats in the

23:54

Lakers franchise, when

23:57

trying to avoid being swept in

23:59

a best seven playoff series, has

24:02

never won a game four literally

24:05

not ever Ozero and nine

24:07

all time, needless to say, worst in NBA

24:09

history, So standing by. That's about

24:11

to start in Los Angeles, Boston Celtics

24:14

leading two games to one after a twenty point

24:16

win at Miami one o four to eighty four. Oklahoma

24:19

City with a three games to none lead in its first

24:21

round series after getting a victory at New Orleans

24:24

one oh six to eighty five, and Orlando

24:26

dominates Cleveland again to tie up that

24:28

first round or at two games a piece one twelve

24:31

eighty nine Magic the final Franz Wagner

24:33

with thirty four points. Sunday night,

24:35

Milwaukee down two games to one, plays at

24:38

Indiana Gianna Santana. Kumpo has

24:40

been out with a strained calf. Not only has he listed

24:42

as doubtful, but now so is Damian Lillard

24:44

with a strained achilles. In the NHL

24:47

playoffs, we have two games tonight,

24:49

there were two today. Boston Bruins

24:51

underway, scoreless mid first period at

24:53

Toronto. The late game in a couple

24:56

hours will be Vegas

24:58

up two games to none, hosting the one

25:00

seed Dallas Stars. Tampa Bay stays

25:02

alive with a six to three win over Florida.

25:05

Islanders stayed alive with a double overtime

25:08

win against two seed in the East, Carolina,

25:10

three to the final. In Major League

25:12

Baseball, the Dodgers won their sixth game in

25:14

a row, four to two at Toronto. The

25:16

win to Tyler glassnow now five and one.

25:19

There's a game going on in Mexico City

25:21

right now. Top of the eighth. The Houston Astros,

25:23

who've lost five in a row, get

25:25

to play Colorado today and tomorrow. They

25:27

each have seven, seven and nineteen

25:30

records, So congrats. Astros are winning

25:32

eight to two in the top of the eighth that play each

25:34

other again there tomorrow. Tiger

25:36

is leading in the ninth against the Royals six

25:39

to three. On Fox TV today, Cincinnati

25:41

at eight to four winner at Texas. Saint Louis

25:44

is seven to four winner at the Mets, and there's

25:46

a game on FS one in about an

25:48

hour, the late game tonight at MLB

25:50

Arizona at Seattle.

25:52

Back to you, thanks, Steve.

25:53

Without further ado, let's go ahead and get our guy

25:56

in here into the tire rack dot Com studios

25:58

help shed some light on the darkness

26:01

that willccurd through the NBA NFL

26:03

Draft.

26:04

I'm sorry it was so long. I forgot.

26:05

This is the NBA Playoffs going on, you know, four and

26:07

a half days. It feels like we're sitting Shiva throughout

26:10

the NBA NFL Draft. But Tyler Dragon

26:12

joins the show that right now NFL Insider for

26:14

USA Today. He's on Twitter at

26:16

the Tyler Dragon not a Tyler Dragon.

26:19

Tyler, let me ask you something, how come in your

26:21

mock draft you didn't have Michael Pennix Junior

26:23

to the Falcons.

26:24

Yeah, arely that was the right pick, right,

26:28

Yeah.

26:28

Tyler, that's

26:31

funny now as you if you remember,

26:33

though, I did have Michael Pennick

26:35

Junior as my third rank quarterback

26:38

indeed, so I

26:40

mean going number eight that I

26:43

was pretty closed. I was pretty close. I

26:45

didn't think he would go that high,

26:47

but I did believe that he would be around

26:50

the thirteen range. I

26:52

didn't think you would go past the raiders.

26:54

Do you think it makes sense though, like kind of paint

26:57

the picture for the Falcons? Does it

26:59

make sense to you because me and V zero

27:01

opposite size?

27:02

It is?

27:05

I believe it does because he

27:07

is Kirk cousins backup for

27:10

maybe two seasons. Kirk Cousins is thirty

27:12

five, He's going to be thirty

27:14

six in August, is coming off with torn

27:16

achilles. You don't know how

27:19

long he has left in the tank. And

27:21

he has two more guaranteed years left

27:23

than the contract that he has.

27:26

Everybody looks about that, you know, the one hundred

27:28

million guaranteed, but it's only

27:30

two years of guaranteed money remaining out

27:32

of contract. So two years

27:34

from now you can say, Okay,

27:36

Kirk, thank you for everything you've done. Now

27:39

with Michael Penning Junior's term. It's kind of similar

27:42

to what happened in Green Bay with Aaron

27:44

Rodgers and Jordan Love, and we've

27:47

seen him working out successfully with

27:49

the Packers. Jordan Love

27:51

has turned into one of the better young

27:53

quarterbacks in the league, and I do believe that

27:56

same thing can happen in Atlanta

27:59

with Michael Penny.

28:00

What's going on, Tyler, how's the

28:03

missus at home? How's the new addition to the world?

28:05

Man?

28:06

What we're doing good? We're actually on a

28:08

road trip in northern California for

28:10

a wedding, so this is his first road

28:12

trip.

28:12

But yeah, we're all doing good.

28:14

That's what's up. Eat all the three appatiers they got

28:16

and make a slightly drunk speech in the name of

28:18

VJ for me. All right, brother, let's

28:20

go to my guy, Jay J.

28:22

McCarthy. The cat was out

28:24

of the bag when Minnesota went to eleven. I

28:27

loved the gazsmanship between Denver. Denver

28:29

was trying to get him. That's the way I read it,

28:31

being that they moved up to ten to

28:33

keep Denver from moving up to ten. And the only reason why they

28:35

would have done that is if they would have wanted JJ

28:38

because nobody thought Minnesota was going

28:40

to take bow Knicks. But you talk about Addison,

28:42

TJ. Hockinson, Jones, Jefferson, then

28:45

you give Flores a rush guy from

28:47

Alabama in Dallas and JJ

28:49

McCarthy. Is it just me being a fan? Ors this kid

28:52

really set up to have a good rookie season

28:54

on where he got picked the weapons around in this situation,

28:56

he's going to.

28:58

Yeah, the Viking and

29:00

the Bears I think set up their rookie

29:03

quarterbacks for success. When you look at

29:05

the Vikings, ross mean, you probably have the

29:07

best receiver in the NFL, and

29:09

justin Jefferson, you have a second year pro

29:11

and Jordan Addison, and

29:14

JJ McCarthy comes in with a pretty

29:16

solid offensive line. You got Aaron

29:18

Jones, the new running back. Vikings

29:21

are going to be pretty good.

29:22

Now.

29:22

Do I believe that they're going to win the division?

29:25

Probably not. I still have the Lions

29:27

as the best team in the NFC North, but

29:30

the Vikings have put themselves in a position

29:32

to be competitive in the NFC

29:35

and definitely competitive in their

29:37

division. And I would not be surprised

29:39

if JJ McCarthy starts very

29:42

early on in the season. I know

29:44

they have Sam Donald and Sam Donald's

29:46

kind of a British quarterback. But I

29:48

think m ckeys are going to be given

29:50

to JJ McCarthy fairly soon.

29:52

If you had to put money on it, jj

29:55

McCarthy to starting quarterback opening say.

29:59

No, I think he is a starting quarterback

30:02

by week four though.

30:04

We want to talk to you about that very much.

30:06

That same Lions team, right they

30:08

drafted I mean it seemed like last year

30:11

right now. Remember all of

30:13

you and your cohorn out there

30:15

that write and cover about this. Oh yo,

30:17

I don't know if you did exactly, but the

30:19

vast majority of you jokers Gator Lions

30:22

at a f how dare you draft their running

30:24

back in the first round and.

30:25

Inside linebacker top two rounds? What are

30:27

you talking about now?

30:29

Obviously, just about every pick the

30:31

Lions made last year, especially in early

30:34

rounds, not only saw the field, but was

30:36

major contributors to a team that was

30:38

in the NFC Championship game and had a twenty some point

30:41

lead.

30:41

They blew that lead, but.

30:42

Still, yeah, it was in fair I'm

30:44

finding to focus on the highlights here now,

30:47

this year's draft for the Lions. What was

30:49

your takeaway from

30:51

this one? Because it seemed to me like they really plugged the

30:53

holes that they had last year.

30:56

So I loved their first round

30:58

pick, carrying Arnold Hughes, my top cornerback

31:01

in this year's draft out of Alabama.

31:03

I just loved his makeup and his physicality

31:06

and just the way he played the game. I

31:08

think he's going to start Day one for

31:11

Detroit. And then their sixth round

31:13

pick Wingo, the defensive tackle

31:16

out of LSU. I think he's going to

31:18

be kind of a steal for Detroit.

31:20

So the Lions really they

31:23

drafted what two offensive linemen, they

31:25

had drafted two cornerbacks, so

31:28

they kind of drafted positions

31:30

of needs, especially that cornerback

31:32

spot with Terry and Arnold. So I give

31:35

them about maybe a solid

31:37

beat after carry on Arnold.

31:40

I probably didn't really like their

31:42

fourth round, their two fourth round selections

31:45

as much, but then they made up for

31:47

with the Wingo pick on round six.

31:50

Hey, Tyler, I want to throw just a few deeper picks

31:52

at you, man, and I just I love for the teams and where

31:54

they went to really fast. Tray Benson

31:57

from Florida State running back heading

31:59

to the Cardinals. Man, would you like to

32:01

try to defend that RPO with Maserati,

32:04

marv Now on the outside and some

32:06

of the other weapons they'll building there. And Don's Devon

32:08

Sez Walker, the UNC kid

32:10

that had trouble trying to get on the field with all the transfer

32:13

stuff, but going to the Ravens

32:15

linking up with Za Flowers and Lamar

32:17

Jackson. You'll get Andrews back from injury,

32:20

two guys later in the middle type rounds

32:22

that they can impact their teams the minute

32:24

they step on the field with for them.

32:26

I love how you mentioned the Ravens and

32:28

Cardinals because I literally circled

32:31

those two teams favorite

32:34

draft classes and two of my favorite teams.

32:36

That was when they came away with the draft. When you look

32:38

at the Cardinals, the best receiver for

32:41

sure, and Marvin Harrison junior Max

32:43

Melton, the cornerback out of Rutgers

32:46

can start day one for

32:49

Arizona. That's the posician and need for

32:51

the Cardinals. And then yeah, Trey Benson,

32:53

you put him in the Backfield's kind

32:56

of a downhill running back, one cut

32:58

style. I really do like the Cardinals draft,

33:00

and I feel like every single year the

33:03

Ravens have a good draft or at least

33:05

a solid draft, and this year

33:07

it remains the same.

33:09

TJ.

33:10

Tampa, the cornerback out of Iowa stayed

33:12

in the fourth round. That's the steal. They

33:14

added Nate Wiggins in the first round, the

33:16

cornerback out of Clemson. So that's

33:19

what's the position that mean in my opinion

33:21

for the Ravens, especially going up

33:23

a division in the AFC

33:25

North with the Cincinnati Bengals with those

33:27

receivers, so you add that to

33:30

their room. Now, I do think

33:32

they could have addressed their offensive line

33:34

a little bit more. I know they added the

33:36

tackle out of Washington in round

33:38

two, but I thought they could have

33:41

addressed that position a little bit more in

33:43

the draft. But overall, I give the Ravens

33:46

and the Cardinals solid B pluses.

33:48

Awesome. All right, real quick, ten second answer.

33:50

Who would you circle as the worst draft?

33:53

The worst draft? The San Francisco

33:56

forty nine ers for sure. Yeah, okay

33:59

for Ricky piersaw Off and I

34:01

really.

34:01

Didn't like the right Yep, the Pierce All

34:03

pick got you, all right?

34:04

From mister irrelevant to an f on Tyler

34:07

Dragons. We'll see how

34:09

that works out. Hey, drive safe, my man. Thanks

34:11

coming on the show.

34:12

Ah, thank you so much.

34:13

All right, that's Tyler Dragon, NFL insider for us

34:16

today.

34:16

You can get them on Twitter at the Tyler Dragon,

34:18

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34:20

Dragon coming up next.

34:22

Let's talk about.

34:23

The the experience that

34:25

is watching the NFL Draft on television.

34:27

You love it?

34:28

Oh yeah, I love it, just like say, you know, watching

34:30

grass brow watching guys get draft mark.

34:32

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34:48

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34:50

and VJ. It just ended, mercifully

34:53

the NFL Draft, which has went

34:56

from a two day affair to now

34:58

a three.

34:58

Day primetime affair.

35:00

And just the reality of the situation is,

35:03

I they took one of my

35:05

favorite TV shows which

35:07

happens once a year, and have completely

35:10

ruined it. They they

35:12

the NFL and the powers

35:15

that be. Now I'll say this, I

35:17

was watching the ABC coverage. I

35:20

had the sound up because I didn't, you know, I didn't

35:22

really need to watch it normally you don't watch things with

35:24

the sound. Well, I had the basketball games with

35:26

the sound down so I

35:28

could listen to Nick Saban do what to break

35:31

down those picks.

35:32

I can listen to that.

35:34

By itself, you could have had the commissioner

35:36

and Nick Saban and it was dead.

35:38

Silence for everybody else. I would have been

35:41

a okay with that, So that was a

35:43

good thing.

35:43

I didn't watch the Bill Belichick segments

35:46

on Pat McAfee, but I imagine

35:48

that was also pretty good. I saw a Clipper two floating

35:51

around. I bet that was pretty good because you got

35:53

those are two guys who were a not

35:55

only are I mean Saban

35:58

recruited all these guys, you know, first

36:00

rounders, whether they played for him or

36:02

not, and you was talking about trying

36:04

to get guys out of the transfer portal and.

36:06

So on and so forth. It was interesting.

36:07

Yeah, what I find what the worst part

36:10

of this thing to me is and I have an easy

36:12

solution to fix it.

36:14

But this day three

36:17

is unwatchable.

36:18

It's unwatchable because

36:20

they've moved on from like

36:23

the draft and now we're going to like each

36:25

international fan base, like

36:27

I'm watching somebody in Munich,

36:30

Germany announced the pick for

36:32

the Carolina Panthers. There's somebody

36:34

in Nairobi announcing the pick

36:36

for the Chicago Bears. Just

36:38

send somebody to the podium and have them

36:40

bread the dog old pick and then tell me.

36:43

Because this is the reason why I'm watching the draft. I'm

36:45

watching the draft to see who gets drafted.

36:47

BJA.

36:48

I know that may be a novel opinion that

36:50

people are just hearing my voice, but that's

36:52

why I'm tuned in. I'm not tuned

36:54

in to watch every Jimmy and Joe and

36:56

Jack and Jamal get their ten seconds

36:58

of fame because they will to be able to announce the Broncos

37:01

fifth round pick.

37:02

Nah, I'm with it, man. I like it because,

37:05

yeah, because it is It's

37:08

broadening the game.

37:09

Man.

37:09

I love football. See, this is a football thing for me. Mark, Honestly,

37:11

this is not an NFL thing. This is a football thing

37:13

for me. I would love to see American

37:16

style football at one point

37:18

in the Olympics. I would love to see this

37:20

game global. It's only really great and

37:23

loved and favored here in the United States

37:25

of America, and there's nothing wrong with that. I love this coach. I

37:27

defended this count. I come from an Army family defended this

37:29

country. But we need to go more global

37:32

with our game. That's why the games overseas

37:34

don't bother me. Now Here in LA you got to be up

37:36

at six, but I'm the DVR king, so I don't have

37:38

to do that. But here you have to be up at six in

37:41

order to watch the games when they're over in Europe, and

37:43

it just is what it is. But it's quirky,

37:45

it's fun. But the NFL, this is what people.

37:48

I keep telling everybody, this man, the NFL,

37:50

with all the fun, with all the glips, with all the

37:52

glamour, with all the stuff that we all love. You know what

37:55

it still is guys. It is still an American

37:58

business and it is a big American

38:01

business, and they are always going to

38:03

do it the American business

38:06

way. It doesn't matter what people think, people

38:08

say, people tweet, people watch, doesn't

38:10

matter. If you're gonna watch the game,

38:12

this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna make it. Listen. The one,

38:15

the one in Germany was funny because they didn't know

38:17

how to grab the beers, holding

38:19

the trays with the with the big that's

38:21

listen. The ratings go down.

38:23

The only reason I watched that today is because I sat

38:25

there at the desk of Steve the Sager, sitting that now,

38:27

and I had.

38:28

To update these jerks on whoever was

38:30

getting drafted. I had it on.

38:32

It have been great to see who was actually

38:34

being drafted. Instead, I got to read the

38:36

bottom line. They're in the pick. You know, you

38:38

know it's a famous it's a famous meme. Now,

38:41

but when Nicola Yolkins was drafted, there

38:43

was a Taco Bell commercial on the screen. Now,

38:46

for literally every single person who's

38:48

drafted after the fourth round in the NFL, they

38:51

don't even have the with the fifth

38:53

with the one hundred in the NFL

38:55

draft.

38:55

Because the clock is shorter, the time is they

38:57

gotta.

38:58

Move it along.

38:58

O give a good guy. But let me tell you

39:01

what was getting draft. No, let me tell me.

39:02

Tell me who's still available, Tell me what

39:05

the fit of this guy? Tell me why this

39:07

guy is just falling? So so

39:09

tell me what Spencer Ratler can do for the Saints,

39:12

or why Jordan Travis for the Jets is a good

39:14

or bad pick? Give me that, Martin,

39:16

give that what network?

39:17

Were you watching it? They're too

39:19

busy going over there to kick it to the that's

39:23

just man. Let's let's

39:25

tune in to Iceland. You see who

39:27

the Vikings draft, Joe Klatt and because

39:29

you named your guy, I enjoyed this weekend

39:32

of watching Joel Clatt and

39:34

Lewis Riddick from ESPN. Those two gentlemen

39:37

talk football the way I like to talk football,

39:39

and talk football the way I comprehend

39:42

football. Lewis Riddick is more on the

39:44

like he talks like he's still in the huddle. That's

39:47

the type of stuff I like. Joel Klatt talks

39:49

as a non bysed you know, commentator

39:51

color guy with our guy Gus Johnson

39:54

for the Fox, for the Big Fox game every

39:56

single Saturday here. So no, I disagree

39:58

delated round guys, I got enough information

40:00

when Ratler got drafted. They went back. We

40:03

might miss the pick, but they'll go back

40:05

and then go down to guy. I think we get. I

40:07

think we get a good analyst, Martin. I want to hear

40:09

it.

40:09

I want to hear the same level of breakdown

40:12

for the for the cornerback

40:14

Brandon Rice gets drafted by you as

40:17

Los Angeles Chargers in round seven. I

40:19

want to hear about it. I want to see it. I don't

40:21

want to see, Oh, hey, tweet

40:24

us the name of an eligible draft puspect

40:26

and see if our truck has.

40:27

Film on it. Oh I love that.

40:29

I love that.

40:30

That's what my favorite thing is. We have to

40:32

make this thing a freaking gang.

40:34

Hold on.

40:34

That's a competition between all the anchors that come

40:36

on, like, Oh, who's got the guy

40:39

who gives the damn what they

40:41

all? They all do? Who gives it? Damn?

40:43

They all do, that's why they're doing it. Who cold

40:45

think about it? Who's got the one? I do

40:48

research so deep, Patrick, film me on

40:50

this. I do research so deep. The

40:53

truck ain't got film on, Mike. That's

40:55

a that's a pride thing in

40:57

sports anchoring. And Brooke, are you kidding

40:59

me? I'm oh good, Yeah,

41:01

you don't even got film on my guy.

41:04

Come on, core N.

41:08

Coming on next to the end of an era in

41:11

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be VJ right now. But we'll

41:32

waiting on the Lakers to build their ten point

41:34

lead that will eventually be blown in the second quarter.

41:36

Steve the Sager smiles.

41:37

And last a long. It's coming, He's coming

41:39

coming right now.

41:40

Lakers have a five point lead nearing the

41:43

end of the first quarter, down

41:45

three to zero in the series. And then you just

41:47

scroll down the rest of the West. Wait

41:49

a minute, the Phoenix Suns also down

41:52

three to oho in the series. The three to six

41:54

match up. I mean, right now we are

41:56

on pace for three sweeps from the top three

41:58

seeds in the Western Conference.

42:01

And begs the question, because you know

42:03

who's not on those teams.

42:04

That's Kevin Durant, Lebron

42:06

James, Anthony Davis, Devin Booker,

42:09

Uh, you know, and so on and so forth. Like

42:11

the guys who we are used to, the usual

42:13

suspects, as you could say, the ones that

42:16

we're.

42:16

Used to seeing in the NBA Finals

42:18

just a.

42:19

Few short years ago, are all looking

42:21

like they'll be in can Coon quite

42:23

uh in just a couple hours from

42:25

now.

42:26

New a commercial break you talked about, uh,

42:28

the way the game going we'll sit here watching the Lakers and the Nuggets,

42:31

and you reference how the game

42:33

is changing, aspects of it that you

42:35

are, myself do not like. And the

42:37

one thing that the reef takes a pull up

42:39

three, one on four on the one

42:41

exactly and by him down there by himself.

42:43

Let me just jack and three with nobody to help rebound

42:46

in an elimination game. But I talked

42:48

about stars, stars, stars, first

42:50

teams, teams, teams. I think that the

42:53

league and I'm happy about this end

42:55

of an air and has changed because I you know, I love,

42:57

you know, not being a Lebron guy and

42:59

cheer for Durant, Jan for steph and

43:01

and Wade and all those guys from that era. But

43:04

it's a rat, man, it's over. I got a list

43:06

of guys here, man that you're gonna be shocking on star Rein's

43:08

names. These guys aren't winning championships. Kd

43:11

you're done. PG, you're not getting one. Kawhi

43:13

you're not getting one. Devin Booker, you're not getting

43:15

one. James Harden you're not getting one. And guess what, guys,

43:17

Stephan Draymond didn't even make the playoffs.

43:19

Jean Morant has been out since January.

43:22

The Stars, the Stars are hurt, guys.

43:24

Jimmy Butler's not playing right now. My

43:27

Zion's not playing right now. It's

43:29

not about the start the teams. Who I

43:31

looked at Mark right when the prompt was

43:33

coming off for us to come on to start the top of the hour. I

43:35

look right, Mart said, Bro, that OKAC team

43:38

Marcos what I said, they're good, But

43:40

I said that OKC team not

43:42

Oh did you see this guy? Did you see what this is?

43:45

That team Minnesota, that

43:47

team, that defense is suffocating

43:50

the Suns, and the Sons don't have a bitch

43:52

to give the starters in your relief, they're

43:55

gonna get swept. Lebron's gonna be swept,

43:57

Katie's gonna be swept. And Stephan

43:59

didn't even make the playoffs. Jimmy

44:01

Butler's hurt, and Zion is out

44:04

and and my

44:05

my, my pacers. How's

44:08

that working out for the Bucks right now? You

44:10

know it's Giannest maybe home early. It's

44:13

I think we're getting back to teams marn If

44:15

that's got great players on them. But I'm

44:17

watching chat play today and I'm like, you

44:19

know what, this kid,

44:21

he's going to defend the rim for the next

44:24

decade. For the next decade, he's

44:26

gonna be a rim protector and he's gonna be pretty

44:28

good at He could be Rudy Gobert. He may not give

44:30

you all the points. I'll tell you this, somebody's gona pay one hundred

44:32

and fifty too und million I was in the next year or two. I guarantee

44:35

you that he's gonna get that.

44:37

Just off the topic of Rudy Gobert, Yeah,

44:39

somebody tell this man quick running the break.

44:45

To slow motion, lanky like a

44:48

praying manis running the fast.

44:49

What if I was Frank Vogel, I would have

44:51

got a technical foul when they didn't call that

44:53

travel. I would have got a tech because I would

44:56

have ran on the court and been in the red face. I

44:58

might have borner like I got ejected at that mom because how

45:00

you just gonna let this slide? Because not

45:02

only was it not only was it ugly, it

45:04

was a violation. It was blatant. It's like

45:07

the whole arena. I reacted, so

45:10

everyone saw it. But but the

45:12

fact that matter is VJ. We're

45:15

not the end of the era

45:17

ended already. You're right, like you're

45:19

right, We're we're it's not that people

45:21

talking is at the end of the no, no, no, no, no. You

45:24

know they said the Devil's greatest trick is convincing

45:26

people he doesn't exist. Right, Steph

45:29

Curry's greatest trick was

45:31

that twenty twenty two final. Yep, because that was

45:33

that team a year before we talked, was

45:35

terrible bro talk. Okay, they make

45:37

a couple moves, Andrew Wiggins comes

45:39

in and plays at a level that we had

45:42

not seen prior or since from

45:44

Andrew Wickins. Right, Oh, you're a

45:46

good point. You're

45:48

right, prior north s You're right. He's

45:51

had to leave the team twice.

45:52

He was I mean playing.

45:55

I think it's fair to say he was playing

45:57

wildly above his head. And that was in

45:59

a that was in it, that was Boston's, that

46:02

was this Boston's team, first time breaking

46:04

through. Okay, rookie head, all

46:07

right, so I'm not taking anything

46:10

away.

46:10

You're gonna champion a two one league.

46:12

No, you win a championship, You win a championship.

46:14

I'm not so. I just say that.

46:15

I just said that to be funny. The whole you know,

46:17

the devil doesn't exist thing, ya know, you

46:19

believe it's true though this era

46:22

ended in the bubble when Lebron

46:24

and then won the title in twenty.

46:26

Twenty, that was that. That was

46:28

it. Right then you had Giannis who's

46:30

much younger.

46:31

I know you kind of lumped them all together, but when you

46:33

think about Gianni Jiannas is not hit thirty yet.

46:36

You see what I'm saying. But it's going, no,

46:39

but.

46:39

It's going towards younger

46:42

players. Definitely, it's transitioning

46:44

towards God, you know who would have guessed

46:46

it. You know, sports are a young man's game. Maybe

46:48

some of these dudes are a little too oh, but

46:50

when you watch the teams like Minnesota, you

46:53

watch teams like Oklahoma City, you

46:55

watch the nuggetson well,

46:58

even the Nuggets who have YO kids who obviously

47:00

a veteran Jamal Murray obviously a veteran filling

47:03

around them.

47:04

Right.

47:05

Eric Gordon's been in the league for a while, but he's playing a

47:07

much different role than he did initially.

47:10

But the kid to them

47:12

is it's the two man game.

47:13

Obviously is working all the time, but it'd be Aaron

47:16

Gordon scoring twenty points off dunks,

47:18

wide open fifteen rebounds, Michael

47:21

Porter junior, Michael Aaron Gordon.

47:23

Michael Porter Jr.

47:23

Carried the water for the Nuggets dog in that game

47:26

two game where Jamal Murray and

47:28

Jokic with absence from the

47:31

end of the first quarter to.

47:32

The start of the fourth, And really quick about Jamal Murray,

47:34

He's playing okay, he's not playing great, not playing

47:36

well. I think hit them right now. He'd

47:38

be getting killed if he doesn't hit the game winner,

47:41

if he doesn't hit that shot, he'd be getting killed

47:43

because he's not actually shooting

47:45

well in this series. But he's playing

47:48

good. He's not playing great. He's still coming

47:50

back from the injury, injury and missing

47:52

some time. But Michael Porter Jr. I told this to Martin

47:55

doing the commercial break to me, he's the lynch pin

47:57

of the Nuggets, repeating it's Michael

47:59

Porter. People have to remember, this kid was

48:01

the number one rank recruit coming out

48:03

of high school and people thought he was projected

48:06

to be the number one overall pick. Then

48:08

he had the two back injuries or two fusions

48:10

or what have you. Young man body though young man

48:12

can recover. You look at his body. He's bigger,

48:15

he's put on weight, and now he's found

48:17

his game. You can tell he's been working,

48:20

because it looks completely different from when you started

48:22

getting a lot of playing time to what it looks

48:24

like now, to where the other night, at one point, you'll

48:27

Kich was six for nine and that he

48:29

had two guys that had more shot attempts to him.

48:31

He got the two early fouls and had

48:33

to sit and you watch Gordon just

48:36

bully these guys on the glass, and

48:38

then you watch Porter Junior hit the outside

48:40

jumpers and all the other little stuff. A Brown

48:43

from Kansas, you had a young kid like that in the mix.

48:45

Also to the.

48:45

Point moving on from Bruce Brown

48:48

last year where people thought it was a mistake,

48:50

but you know they did.

48:51

They drafted Homeboy at a long beach.

48:54

Peyton Watson, you said, Christian

48:56

Brown has really spelled Braun it

48:58

is.

48:59

I know, I know it pronounced

49:02

brown. Can't stand it, but it looks like towells.

49:05

But but no, that that is

49:07

that is a major key in terms

49:09

of this. But I think we're not looking

49:11

at the end of the air the era already and

49:14

it's it's it's already happened. The sun

49:16

has set on on some

49:19

of these guys, and it really just depends on how

49:21

they want to end their careers, right, because

49:23

like, I hear you when you say they're done winning

49:26

championships, and I'll agree with the

49:28

slight amendment they're done winning championships

49:31

as the primary number one option. I

49:33

like, I think that if you put a

49:35

guy like Kevin Durant, for example,

49:38

on on Dallas,

49:41

then I can't say though they're gonna lose

49:43

just because they have Kevin Durant, Right,

49:45

But ultimately, if you're

49:48

trusting to be the guy that you were hitching

49:50

your wagon to, like the way that the Nuggets

49:52

are hitching their wagon to Nicole Jokic,

49:55

that's a different story altogether.

49:57

Yeah, But I okay, that's

49:59

I get you. But I mean, I couldn't see any of these guys

50:01

Ring chasing old. You'd have to be old,

50:04

like Kat's got too. So I don't see

50:06

k d Ring chasing old. I don't see Hard and Ring

50:08

chasing old. Uh maybe Devin

50:10

Booker, but Kawhi. We know when Kawhi can't

50:13

do it anymore, is gonna walk away. He's not

50:15

gonna go as an old guy to try to chase him. Maybe

50:17

PG. That's why I put it out there as far as

50:19

done winning rings, because I just I look at the landscape.

50:21

If look at the good teams right now, if you or

50:23

maybe people can say, yeah, you would take Durrant, but we know

50:25

Durant, that's that's not gonna happen.

50:27

That's irrational. Durant's not leaving Phoenix.

50:30

So if you look at Boston, hey, would you take any of these

50:32

guys? Boston could look and go.

50:33

I mean, I'm not saying

50:36

yeah, we're already, we're already. What

50:38

I'm saying, are you got all these teams

50:41

and the legacy a legacy tax, legacy

50:44

debate, all these teams in the luxury tax,

50:46

We're gonna have to try to do something about it. You

50:49

have to try to do something about it. Like if you're Phoenix, are you bringing

50:51

the same rosterback? I don't think I can't

50:53

imagine that you're Like some

50:56

of these teams. The gap is so

50:58

far that I don't think you could fool yourself

51:00

into playing around in the margin.

51:02

Who do you move off on? In Phoenix? Would you move

51:04

off? For Bradley was just like, Okay, this was a mistake

51:06

because he's because he's not gonna be the twenty five to thirty

51:09

point guy.

51:09

Like this Bradley Bill has a no trade

51:11

clause, so wherever

51:14

he goes, you have to wave that yea.

51:16

So if in fact he wanted to, so

51:18

he can just pick a contender if you wanted to, and say, Okay, send

51:20

me here, I'll go here, here, or here. They're not gonna

51:22

move off with Durant, and I think they'll move off

51:24

of Booker. They're gonna have to put the bench

51:27

together next year. But I think, once again,

51:29

you're right, the era has been

51:31

over. We got fooled by two championships

51:34

we did. We got food and it's also the help of sports

51:36

debate, TV and all that type of that part of the business

51:39

in the media that I talk about openly and

51:41

freely all the time. We did

51:43

get fulled by two rings the bubble and just

51:46

to run that Curry put together. But

51:48

it was magical to watch because we knew

51:51

what that was. That team was done. Curry

51:53

did really legitimately carry

51:55

that franchise to that championship

51:58

down two to one, couple of forty

52:00

point plus games, and then the closer

52:02

and clincher in bean Town

52:05

on the park floor, uh

52:07

there, and then you've seen what they've been in the last two years.

52:09

They're they're they're playing teams and

52:11

they're and they're and this year they didn't get to

52:13

the play offs, like one of them is a

52:16

yeah, one of one of these things is

52:18

not like the other, like the

52:20

championship year. So yeah, that's

52:22

why I say I just think they're done. But it does

52:24

open up I am opening my eyes to these

52:27

young teams. I sat and I watched it, and I watched Oklahoma

52:29

City this year, but it's the playoffs. It's different.

52:32

And you get to a game today where they're up two

52:34

oh and they should have lost Game one. I

52:36

thought McCollum took a bad shot. He hits that shot.

52:38

We're talking about this series in an entirely

52:41

different manner. But they

52:43

could have laid down today and said, okay, we're up

52:45

to it. No, they once they got hit with

52:47

that spurt, once they hit that spurt where they

52:49

made three straight threes, and it's not even

52:52

a bragging thing or they don't even really

52:54

have no swagging moxy, to be honest with

52:56

you, They're just out there busting your ass,

52:58

like really, they've really given you work that

53:00

I appreciate that because you act like a little

53:03

trash talk. I like somebody there talk some trash, but

53:05

I also can appreciate a team that's so young.

53:07

They're just it looks like an AAU team. They're

53:10

just balling and shout out to their coach. He

53:13

throw this shits at you real fast. I feel

53:15

like this kid. I think you might like this one. Martin, I think you're

53:17

gonna feel this one. Head coach of Oklahoma

53:19

City thumbs this kid. Is this guy

53:22

the next Eric Spostra huh

53:25

with the franchise from the G League? Starts

53:27

from nothing but knows the franchise

53:29

knows these kids, knows these players.

53:32

The average fan doesn't know that about this

53:34

guy. But you wonder why they're playing so well on coach

53:36

what he's been there. He's not a big name

53:38

guy. He's making his name there, supposed

53:40

to started off as a video guy and worked

53:43

this way up. But when he got the job, real talk, what did people

53:45

go? Who Riley hired, who

53:47

they gave the job to? Who that he's

53:49

been there though, and he's got this young team.

53:52

Roley had that young team had a young way

53:55

erxpos.

53:56

I mean, you know, I think I think what

53:59

the point that to really truly

54:01

pull from right? Because Eric Spolster, to

54:03

me, is one of the best coaches. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I'm

54:05

just looking at this. I'm looking at this list

54:07

of NBA finals results, right, and Eric spolsterers

54:10

Dave was here, three, four,

54:12

five, Right, He's been there five times

54:15

since twenty ten, right and winning regardless

54:17

of who he's got, he's been there five.

54:19

Is exactly so like he one of the

54:21

best coaches in the NBA.

54:22

Tyron, who also in this list on the losing

54:25

end on a few of these, also to me, still one of the best

54:27

coaches in the NBA. But I think what it what

54:29

it proves is And I think

54:31

you have a similar argument with Nick Nurse prior to when

54:33

he was in Toronto, and I mean, I think he'll probably

54:35

still be in Toronto if they were going in a

54:37

competing direction, right, because they

54:40

obviously won a championship and we've never heard

54:42

from again.

54:42

But they because they sold for one there

54:45

was that list, were just going that is what it is anyway.

54:47

But the point I was making maybe

54:51

just maybe.

54:54

Hire your assistant coaches to be head coaches

54:56

in the NBA. I mean, we

54:58

hear the NBA like the idea,

55:00

Mark. I know it sounds crazy,

55:03

but like, maybe just maybe

55:06

the guy on TV calling

55:08

the game isn't the prior, shouldn't

55:10

be the number one option to replace

55:13

who knows nothing about your team.

55:15

Maybe just man nothing about your team.

55:17

Okay, so let's just think about it, all right,

55:20

Michael Malone, All right, let's do Let's go from the

55:22

top to the bottom, Mark Dagnall, like you said, G

55:25

league coach, all types of training camp experience

55:27

and so forth. Chris Finch was an assistant

55:29

with the New Orleans Pelicans prior to getting the Timberwolves

55:31

job.

55:32

Michael Malone had been an

55:34

assistant with Cleveland and all of that.

55:36

Got a job in Sacramento, made

55:39

the playoffs, competed a lot in Sacramento,

55:41

a place that prior to last year

55:44

had not competed at all.

55:45

Right, their highlights in the last twenty years,

55:47

while dealing with some real edgy personalities

55:50

there too, it was star player.

55:51

It was Michael Malone being able

55:53

to figure at that time, at that point he was Mike, but still

55:55

the Mike Malone.

55:57

The point remains, a little bit of experience

56:00

can't hurt, right, Just

56:02

think about that as we're you know, hearing

56:04

and connected to the franchise. Is what I

56:06

love. Man, I just like I said, I just did this whole

56:08

ship from Superstar and all that. It's

56:11

great and all the attention. But I'm glad it feels

56:13

like we're getting back to the teams

56:15

that we're gonna learn a lot about these better upper

56:17

echelon teams, namely, Okay, see in Minnesota,

56:20

timbers not.

56:21

Just go back to wearing shirts and ties and everything

56:23

will be right. Now, you know what, I fought

56:25

you on that for a while.

56:26

I'm with you now because now it does look Now

56:28

you could tell they don't even care. One

56:30

coach had on a wrinkle to pull over so he ain't even

56:32

iron no more. He not even ironing it no

56:34

more that that it looks. It

56:36

looks bad. Now it does look bad. It

56:39

looks bad, man, it looks Put on the tie. Put

56:41

on a shirt and tie, all right? Are even

56:43

are even just a sports coating the button?

56:45

Now?

56:45

I'm cool with a sports courting the button. Now, you don't have to wear

56:47

a tie. It'd be odd bro all

56:50

up on your neck for three hours on the bit, you

56:52

know. But you know what we miss now the

56:54

look the look of somebody ripping their tie off and

56:56

discuss John

56:58

Chayey, We's gonna rip off their

57:01

quarters right there.

57:02

Darby Ham will rip off his quartership and spike

57:04

it when Lebron gets a tech later on. I

57:07

don't think so, all right, but you know, we just talked

57:09

about how the thing about the old days

57:11

is them the old days. Here's another wire reference.

57:14

Who's up next in the NBA? Coming

57:16

up next? Martin VJ, Fox with Radio, Martin

57:19

VJ coming to your line from the Tirack dot Com studios.

57:22

You can get us on Twitter with your two cents.

57:24

I'm at Martin Wis's VJ at the

57:26

Big Vanilla Funny and of course you get us at Fox

57:29

Sports Radio like a little

57:31

chewy wrin cone.

57:32

Of course, he says he's

57:34

been trying to get us. Could pull up down in Houston

57:37

forever.

57:37

Uh dee Patne, says Martin Wiss and Big

57:40

of Vanilla Funny want a rock that Jimmy Butler

57:42

look uh those are This is Jimmy

57:44

Butler with the little Puffs.

57:45

Dog already tweeted for a tweeted what

57:47

and then Mickey Mouse is happening

57:50

here? What are you doing, Jimmy Butler?

57:52

Like real salt man, that's come on you're

57:54

grown ass man dog puffs

57:57

like ponies like puffs, and what's

57:59

what the why is it? Why is it? You see the

58:01

part down the middle. Then he parted

58:03

the hairline and then kind of comb Yeah,

58:06

but Jimmy wants attention.

58:08

He's not playing, So I just say, it

58:10

would have been better if they have won, if you're gonna

58:13

do all that win.

58:14

The pictures on my tablet right now

58:17

I can't even look at I can't unsee

58:19

him like that now. I don't care what happens.

58:22

I can't. Then he do the swoop, then

58:24

he do the Justin Bieber once before. It's

58:26

a fallout boy, Okay,

58:28

I call it the Biber like to be I know Patrick

58:31

knows Patries.

58:32

It was the EMO phase for sure.

58:34

Who's Who's What's that?

58:35

Jimmy Butler that that.

58:36

I know what?

58:37

Who's Who's Emo? What's that?

58:39

Like?

58:40

Like like panic at the disco? Fallout

58:42

boy hard? Like you know your your

58:44

interpretation of rock?

58:46

Okay, I said emo was, you

58:48

know, taking back Sunday who

58:51

cut from without.

58:53

The Yeah, it was like punk who

58:55

like punk rock.

59:00

Jams, Barker Day with those

59:02

bands evolved into in the early two times.

59:05

Oh, okay, that was okay. I

59:07

like my chemical romance. That

59:10

was my chemical romance.

59:12

Yeah, my chemical romance be

59:15

hitting pretty good.

59:16

I know all those songs. I grew up listening to the radio,

59:18

so I didn't have that was it.

59:20

I know that that's what I know that the number one song

59:22

and every year from that time period

59:24

because I was always listening to the radio. Anyway, who's

59:27

up next to the NBA? Because it's not Fallout Boy

59:29

or Jimmy Butler. Nah, this

59:33

this Oklahoma City Thunder team. Man, it

59:35

might might have They have my full attention. I'm

59:37

gonna pay very close attention to how they attack

59:40

this playoffs and over in like the next year.

59:42

What's gonna happen with contracts. I

59:44

have a theory here that we're not a theory

59:47

more of a question. I'm gonna be looking for

59:49

this team to actually or what I'll do is I'll

59:51

judge them against the Durant teams. I'm

59:53

gonna judge this team now, Durantdom got to a

59:55

final, so this team's got to get to one for

59:58

me to think that they got something really brew here.

1:00:00

But if they can somehow it not be a

1:00:03

fluke and they are the legit one

1:00:05

two, because that was all a game and a half game

1:00:07

difference between one two and three in the West.

1:00:09

So they're definitely one of the top three teams. Who don't

1:00:11

know if they're the best team. I think Denver's the best

1:00:14

team. But this team right here is

1:00:16

younger, they score well, they have a great

1:00:18

coach, They kind of you could tell they're all

1:00:21

playing for each other. They're playing for the team.

1:00:23

No one out there is just gunning and worried

1:00:25

about their stats and numbers are going to get theirs.

1:00:27

And they still got a thirty point per night.

1:00:30

Guy, they still got chatting with you know, eleven

1:00:32

twelve rebounds a night. They still got

1:00:34

Dort. Where did this guy come from? I'm

1:00:36

not even gonna try to front like I know who to Where the

1:00:39

hell this dude come from? I know who he is

1:00:41

now though, and he's legit. He's big,

1:00:43

he's strong, he's brocky. He fights through

1:00:46

screen. You can't screen this guy. So he's gonna lock

1:00:48

your best guy. He making Brandon England. What I

1:00:50

said about Brandon two weeks ago, I just threw

1:00:52

it out there. He should be

1:00:54

Kevin Durant Loude.

1:00:56

Dort showed me something and you may

1:00:58

remember in the bubble was the thunder

1:01:00

and I want to say it was it was the Rockets.

1:01:03

Was that who James Harden was playing for at that point? Yes,

1:01:06

yes, he was with the Rockets in the bubble and lou

1:01:08

Dord. That was Chris Paul in Oklahoma

1:01:10

City and

1:01:13

hell oh yeah yeah y Fenders

1:01:16

in the NBA right now. Yeah, and he took

1:01:18

he he's making. Brandon

1:01:20

Ingram looked like he wanted to get out of the game. You

1:01:22

can look in the guys face. He had the look

1:01:25

of coach, get me out of here because I

1:01:27

can't do nothing with him. I try to tell

1:01:29

brandon Ingram was a nice one on one guy. But

1:01:31

as the young kids like to say, Mary, you're like

1:01:33

this one, brandon Ingram ain't got no.

1:01:35

Bad guys, real talk. Put the tape on. I'm

1:01:38

not talking about ISO one. That's not basketball.

1:01:41

If I played Martin one on one, I'm sure we each

1:01:43

can io in each other and go get a bucket.

1:01:45

But do you know how to play

1:01:48

the game of basketball within your

1:01:50

skill set? And Brandon Ingram does. He

1:01:52

makes the same kind of two or three shots. He

1:01:54

doesn't have anything new to his game. Over the last two

1:01:56

or three years, he's got no bag and

1:01:59

when you lock him down, he does mentally

1:02:01

he got taken out of that door. It took him out of that series

1:02:03

is over. That's the sweet too. So that's who I'm looking

1:02:05

at. And then you're not there your squad,

1:02:07

but of Anthony,

1:02:10

because I.

1:02:11

Really love that team and the reason why I think

1:02:13

that they have a great shot to be up next

1:02:15

quote unquote is because they

1:02:18

have Well obviously, like you said, everything

1:02:20

he said about Denver, I I you know, I parrot

1:02:23

that. Yeah, but when you go and

1:02:25

you look at Minnesota, they

1:02:27

have to me, what

1:02:30

is a great mix of wiley

1:02:33

veterans. Mike Conley running

1:02:35

the show. Mike Conley, Okay, Mike running

1:02:38

the show. Rudy Gobert, for all

1:02:40

his shortcomings, is a great defender

1:02:43

absolutely and has and has been

1:02:45

enabled on the offensive end. That's how

1:02:47

you went up with Rudy Gobert dribbling down on the fast

1:02:49

break once once a game, like do

1:02:52

I agree with it?

1:02:53

No?

1:02:53

But I understand getting so I'm getting a touch

1:02:55

one way or another. But it's but you see

1:02:57

now they'll they'll throw him the ball in the post. Utah

1:03:00

just ignored him on offense. Now

1:03:02

they don't necessarily run plays for him, but he gets

1:03:04

touches, he's involved on the offensive

1:03:06

end. Ultimately,

1:03:09

you have long rangey wings

1:03:11

with the kel Alexander Walker and Jaden

1:03:15

McDaniels and a superstar

1:03:17

and Anthony Edwards who is willing

1:03:19

to get who is willing to play

1:03:22

when he's having a bad game. Okay,

1:03:25

he hasn't been lights out in this series, but

1:03:27

what's he doing all the time? Defending

1:03:30

the second game of the series and he couldn't hit

1:03:32

the brass out of a barn. It was funny

1:03:34

because Mike Conley filed Devin Booker

1:03:36

on a layup and Anthony Edwards

1:03:38

is yelling at Conley, and what he's yelling

1:03:41

at him is not He's not like chastising

1:03:43

for playing defense or whatever.

1:03:44

He's like, why'd you found him? I was gonna block

1:03:46

the shot. I was gonna block

1:03:48

the shot.

1:03:49

And the reality is is like most of it do we

1:03:51

see it so often in the NBA,

1:03:54

especially throughout NBA history, where

1:03:56

a guy is year he's not getting

1:03:58

the ball, or when he does the balls,

1:04:00

it's not in this spot exactly, and then he just shuts

1:04:03

down the rest of him brandon ing Anthony

1:04:05

Edwards, not none of that. That's that

1:04:07

to me is the makings of a of a

1:04:09

brewing superstar right there, and

1:04:12

that's why I will.

1:04:13

Be It's his franchise right now. Oh Carl

1:04:15

Anthony Towns lost in car.

1:04:17

Towns, you have to have something to lose it first,

1:04:19

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1:04:21

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1:04:36

I think, uh, as the philosopher

1:04:39

Guccie Man once said, without

1:04:41

the sauce, you are lost, but you can also

1:04:43

get lost in the sauce. I think that applies

1:04:45

to one NFL head coach. But Steve de

1:04:48

Seger knows exactly where he is with

1:04:50

this update.

1:04:50

Thank you.

1:04:51

After that, I'm lost, Yeah, Steve,

1:04:54

Steve, who's Gucci Man Steve? But

1:04:57

the Lakers have taken the requisite double

1:04:59

digit lead against Denver. It's fifty

1:05:01

four to forty four against the Nuggets under

1:05:04

three minutes to go in the second quarter,

1:05:06

and I mentioned this on the show a couple of

1:05:08

nights ago. We've had about twenty plus

1:05:10

years where there's been a best of seven series

1:05:13

every round of the NBA playoffs.

1:05:15

So in this twenty plus years, there

1:05:17

have been ninety instances of a team

1:05:19

holding a double digit lead in each

1:05:22

of the first three games of a playoff series.

1:05:25

The Lakers are the only one to be down

1:05:27

three after these double digit

1:05:30

in each of the first three. That

1:05:33

goes back to two thousand and three. So the Lakers

1:05:35

up eleven now two and a half to go in

1:05:37

the first half of tonight's Game four of

1:05:40

the first round series against the defending champion

1:05:42

Denver Nuggets, and these Lakers are shooting sixty

1:05:45

one percent from the floor so far. Lebron

1:05:48

James up to fourteen points. Austin

1:05:50

Reeves has thirteen points in fourteen

1:05:52

minutes for La Boston one o four

1:05:54

to eighty four winners at Miami. Celtics

1:05:57

lead the series two games to one. Boston

1:05:59

led twelve to three after the first six and a half

1:06:01

minutes, Yes, three points in six

1:06:03

and a half minutes to start the home game for the Heat.

1:06:06

Boston scored forty two points in the second

1:06:08

quarter in this one as well. Oklahoma

1:06:10

City's up three games to none after winning

1:06:12

at New Orleans one to OZH six to eighty

1:06:14

five Pelicans with twenty one turnovers,

1:06:17

and Orlando dominated Cleveland again,

1:06:19

tying up that first rounder at two games

1:06:21

apiece one twelve eighty nine the final

1:06:24

Franz Wagner thirty four points. In

1:06:26

the NHL playoffs, Islanders won in

1:06:28

double overtime to stay alive against Carolina.

1:06:31

Tampa Bay with a home victory to stay alive,

1:06:33

taking Game four against Florida. Boston

1:06:36

is leading to nothing at Toronto mid

1:06:38

second period and coming up in an hour the

1:06:40

late game. Vegas up two games to none,

1:06:43

hosting the one seed in the West, Dallas.

1:06:45

In the NFL Draft, rounds four through

1:06:48

seven were today to end things. Couple

1:06:50

quarterbacks of note were taken in the fifth

1:06:52

round, Spencer Rattler, South

1:06:54

Carolina, taken by the New Orleans Saints,

1:06:57

and quarterback from Florida State Jordan Travis

1:06:59

taken by the New York Jets. Washington

1:07:01

has signed Notre Dame quarterback Sam Hartman

1:07:04

and USC running back Austin Jones.

1:07:06

Buffalo signed running back Frank Gore Junior

1:07:09

from Southern miss He went undrafted but

1:07:11

now has a team. San Francisco gets

1:07:13

Wisconsin quarterback Tanner Mordecai and

1:07:16

Missouri running back Cody Schrader, and

1:07:18

the Colts signed BYU quarterback

1:07:20

Keten Slovas and Kansas quarterback

1:07:22

Jason Bean to MLB Action.

1:07:25

The Dodgers have won six in a row, four to

1:07:27

the final at Toronto. There

1:07:29

was a hit by Shohey Otani in

1:07:31

this one, and not a long ball, just a

1:07:34

line single to right field. On

1:07:36

this RBI single, it was

1:07:38

one hundred and nineteen miles an hour off the

1:07:40

bat.

1:07:41

That's crazy.

1:07:41

His major league record since he came over

1:07:44

here. Otani is batting three forty

1:07:46

seven. By the way, Mookie bats

1:07:48

is batting three ninety one. He had

1:07:50

three more hits today. The Blue Jays as a

1:07:52

team had three hits. Yankees

1:07:54

are winning eleven to one at Milwaukee.

1:07:57

In the bottom of the eighth top of the eighth

1:07:59

inning, White Sox are tied with the race

1:08:01

six ' six. White Sox, with the win last

1:08:03

night, are now four and twenty two on

1:08:06

the season, and Houston's playing Colorado

1:08:08

tonight, tonight and tomorrow in

1:08:11

Mexico City, Houston ends

1:08:13

a five game losing streak, beating Colorado

1:08:15

twelve to four.

1:08:16

Back to you, hey, Steve, really quick on Otani.

1:08:19

There are certain people you go see live and

1:08:22

it feel it looks different. It feels

1:08:25

different, Otani. I did

1:08:27

my first Dodger game and get Phil level,

1:08:29

get on the field, and why bro he walks

1:08:31

out there, he starts taking bad in price. It's

1:08:34

it feels like you feel like you're in a sports transformation.

1:08:37

It's the kind of a bat that you don't go

1:08:39

to the kitchen during he is no the living

1:08:42

room.

1:08:42

Man.

1:08:42

It kind of reminds me if somebody once told

1:08:44

Al Michaels when he used to do baseball. When

1:08:47

Reggie Jackson's up, even if you're reading

1:08:49

the newspaper, that's how old this was. Even

1:08:51

if he read, you kind of peer over the top of the

1:08:53

newspapers and wow, the game has my full

1:08:56

attention. It's that kind of start to the play.

1:08:58

Yeah, it's amazing to

1:09:00

watch. It really is.

1:09:02

Martin and VJ coming to your life from the ti rack dot

1:09:04

Com Studios. VJ was

1:09:06

up this, Uh this hurt my It

1:09:09

really hurt my soul as a

1:09:11

fan in this moment when

1:09:14

I heard this, because I was worried,

1:09:16

and like I said, Steve, you know this is Gucci

1:09:19

man said this. You know, if

1:09:21

a man without sauce can get lost,

1:09:24

but a man can also get lost in the sauce.

1:09:27

It's very much like you know, you had too much dip on your

1:09:30

chip. You know, I

1:09:32

think we are in.

1:09:33

We are very close, if not

1:09:35

all the way there to us

1:09:37

loft in the sauce moment. And it

1:09:39

happened during the end of the first round

1:09:42

of the draft this year, as we were

1:09:44

doing the introductory press conferences for

1:09:46

the you know, after the first round pick.

1:09:48

The end of the day, this was our guy.

1:09:49

Let's just take him, Let's not overthink it, and

1:09:52

we would have been sick, you know if we lost

1:09:54

him just for a you know, a couple of fifth round

1:09:56

picks.

1:09:56

Or what have you.

1:09:57

I was actively involved in trying

1:09:59

to pretend we were moving forward so.

1:10:02

That what was Broncos

1:10:05

GM George Peyton and

1:10:07

Broncos head coach Sean Payton. The

1:10:10

second voice you heard was Sean Payton, who

1:10:13

was said that he was actively

1:10:15

evolved in trying to

1:10:18

trick teams into thinking he

1:10:20

was trying to trade up.

1:10:24

Sean.

1:10:26

I watched you turn turn

1:10:28

water into wine in New Orleans for

1:10:31

ten years had some of the worst playoff

1:10:34

look that you'll ever see between

1:10:36

from from

1:10:39

the Minnesota miracle to

1:10:41

the worst non call the NFL history to

1:10:44

Kyle Rudolph our coworker pushing

1:10:46

off in the back of the end zone for Kirk Cousins first

1:10:49

and only playoff. Where is our coworker? I've

1:10:51

seen and I brought it up to him when

1:10:54

I did the updates on the show. I was like, you lucky, he

1:10:56

is our co worker. He told me, you know, very

1:10:59

kindly told me, you know, I don't give a good guy damn

1:11:01

what you think about that, because we advanced

1:11:03

any who. Sean,

1:11:09

if this is the way you're gonna move and

1:11:11

act, why did you get up off of

1:11:13

Collins couch?

1:11:15

Why why'd you do it?

1:11:18

Because you are like two or three moves

1:11:20

away from burning all goodwill

1:11:22

you've built in this league. You are two

1:11:24

or three moves away from everybody

1:11:27

in the world saying he's

1:11:29

lost his fastball, he's got

1:11:31

no idea what he's doing here. Oh,

1:11:33

and then you know what also is gonna happen because

1:11:36

of this, Because of this moment,

1:11:38

they're gonna invalidate everything he did

1:11:41

before, everything that you

1:11:43

did in New Orleans has become becoming relevant.

1:11:45

You should have retired if this is the way

1:11:47

you're gonna move in intentional subterfeuds,

1:11:50

trying to trick teams.

1:11:51

And I think you.

1:11:53

And just to just to draft bow Knicks

1:11:57

at twelve. So you mean

1:11:59

to tell me because you know they got

1:12:01

draft boards VJ. Right, you know they got drafts?

1:12:03

Is your segment?

1:12:05

Everybody got a draft board ranked teams irrespective

1:12:08

of position.

1:12:09

I got a draft board.

1:12:10

You mean to tell me that in the Denver

1:12:12

Broncoast draft room you

1:12:15

had the sixth ranked quarter

1:12:17

sixth drafted quarterback in your number

1:12:19

one spot.

1:12:21

Huh?

1:12:23

How how are

1:12:26

y'all blind? What are

1:12:28

we talking about? That bow

1:12:31

Knicks may work. I'm not saying he's gonna be a

1:12:33

bust. I'm not saying none of that. I'm talking

1:12:35

about your strategy, your process,

1:12:38

because I think you probably could have got like you want to do,

1:12:40

you want to trade down to get body,

1:12:42

you would have got him.

1:12:44

You would have got him, he'd have got bow Knicks in the second

1:12:46

round. You would have got him, he didn't got especially

1:12:49

when you see at Michael Pattick's go to LA,

1:12:52

I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna applaud my

1:12:55

partner right now because see that's

1:12:57

there you go give and get an applause. See that's how that beach

1:13:00

juice rubs off. You see that purity

1:13:02

right there. You see that honest in that purity

1:13:04

right there. I what

1:13:07

Sean Payton. I'll be honest with you. I like

1:13:09

to pick. I think it fits for what he's

1:13:11

he can do what Sean Payton wants him to do.

1:13:14

And you could have just left it at that, but I'm with you

1:13:17

to the stuff he's doing now.

1:13:19

It's just like, ah, come on, bro,

1:13:22

Like that's no one believes

1:13:24

you when you just said that, No one. Oh

1:13:28

God, it's it's.

1:13:29

Gonna age, just like that that clip of Zach

1:13:31

Edy talking about we're gonna go win the championship.

1:13:34

Yeah, that's how it's gonna age, Like

1:13:37

like the talk of the Philadelphia Eagle

1:13:39

dream team from a few years back.

1:13:41

With these quarterbacks more into something we haven't touched

1:13:43

on, something that we know for certain, all

1:13:45

these guys are not gonna pan out. Absolutely

1:13:48

all these all six of these guys. Guess what I

1:13:50

got? Maybe three? If three, I got

1:13:53

three.

1:13:53

If three signed second contracts

1:13:56

at the rate that we're going, if three stay with their team for a

1:13:58

second contract.

1:13:59

Be a great class, really fast. And that's

1:14:01

the number three I wrote down, just some of

1:14:03

the power classes. Steve's gonna know a lot of this

1:14:05

stuff because it's old night. You guys know, I love the quarterback

1:14:07

position. But I looked at some of the classes I remember

1:14:10

off the top of my head from my life, in the top of my

1:14:12

head from ones i've studied. Most

1:14:14

of them, got like three or

1:14:17

four. If you get four of a

1:14:19

class to seventy one class, Archie Man

1:14:21

and Joe Thisman, Jim Pluckett. They

1:14:23

got Dereck Ganerson in there, but he wasn't as good as

1:14:25

those three. How many you got three? We can even go to the

1:14:27

eighty three class, Lway, Kelly, Marino,

1:14:30

but also Tony Easton, Blacklitch and O'Brien

1:14:32

were drafted in the first round. But who's

1:14:34

the three that you remember? I just told you Marino,

1:14:37

Kelly, and Alway. Even the twenty

1:14:39

twelve class, Russ, Kurt Luck,

1:14:41

RG three Foles. How many guys

1:14:43

can you pick out of there. Three. Kirk

1:14:46

Cousins was in that class. Yeah, yeah, Kurt's

1:14:48

in that class with Russ luck ag in the

1:14:50

ninety three class. Even look at that, Drew Blesso,

1:14:53

Elvis girlback Michigan had a solid

1:14:55

NFL. Trent Green was going to be the

1:14:57

guy into the Rams for the Rams until it's

1:14:59

leg got crashed in in preseason. Mark

1:15:03

I'm sorry, not Bulger before

1:15:05

Kurt Warner, excuse me, Kurt Warner gets in printed,

1:15:08

you know, and the rest of the history. And then another year

1:15:11

I had, oh, look at this eleven class. This

1:15:13

might be the worst class ever. Cam

1:15:15

Newt went number one, but the other quarterbacks

1:15:17

Locker, Gabrick Ponder,

1:15:20

Dalton Colin, Kaepernick's in there, Tyrod

1:15:23

Taylor is in there. So all these

1:15:25

guys are not going to pan

1:15:28

out. And then also, I'm sorry to oh four class big Ben

1:15:30

Eli Phillip, but Matt Schaub's in that class.

1:15:33

He was a front No, I mean, just think about it. We had

1:15:36

Trevor Lawrence, Truster, Fields, Mac Jones, Trey Lance.

1:15:39

If you if you had said I'm a trade it, say this

1:15:41

time at during like at the

1:15:44

end of the seventh round. If I told you that only one

1:15:46

of those quarterbacks will be on the university. Wow, Yeah,

1:15:48

you're right, You're right. It'd be like so that's kind of where

1:15:50

we're at with you. But just Sean Payton, I'll

1:15:52

tell you what, man, this better

1:15:55

work?

1:15:55

Pal?

1:15:55

What three better work? I'm

1:15:58

just saying, Sean Payton a better fricking No,

1:16:00

I'm Atthew, just just just what three?

1:16:02

We know three?

1:16:03

If I if you have just right now, Caleb,

1:16:06

I'd say I'd go Caleb,

1:16:09

Caleb. I'll say, Caleb be good. I've

1:16:11

seen Sean Payton win game, starting to tie it end a quarterback.

1:16:14

I think oh Nicks will be okay. And

1:16:17

also I think JJ's in a good spot.

1:16:19

Who's the bust? Who's the guy? You just

1:16:21

go? You just go? Wow, I did not see

1:16:24

that?

1:16:24

Is it?

1:16:24

Is it easy?

1:16:25

It's either Drake or Daniels? Right, Yeah,

1:16:27

I think both of them are gonna have a rough go. But

1:16:29

we'll see again, like we'll see. I got you how

1:16:31

it all plays out. But we only toured three. These guys

1:16:33

are going to be successful. Spencer Rattler

1:16:36

now that gay Yeah, no a coming

1:16:39

up next though, we got to go to break. Let's come up next and

1:16:41

play a game of Who you Got with a

1:16:43

big pat. Hopefully it's a better game of Who

1:16:46

you Got than the last time. We'll see Coming up

1:16:48

next Fox with Tradio, Martin

1:16:50

and VJ coming to you live from the Tirereck dot Com

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Studios. You can hit us up on Twitter, but if you do,

1:16:55

do me a favor and be smarter than this guy

1:16:57

who just said and hasn't been light up

1:17:00

this series and then did the one

1:17:02

of the worst things you can do on Twitter. So tell

1:17:04

me you haven't watched him this series without telling

1:17:06

me you haven't watched this series. Yeah,

1:17:09

I was watching Game two where he shot three for

1:17:11

twelve on the floor and at fifteen total

1:17:13

points and still was giving his all on defense

1:17:16

and helping his team win.

1:17:17

Yeah, I was watching that, and that's exact

1:17:19

lights out who I was about this. I'm not even gonna read

1:17:21

the church name. How will you know

1:17:24

me? I like, I like b we only got we only

1:17:26

got a load les? Go ahead,

1:17:29

you got luck, you sucker?

1:17:30

All right, Martin Vija, It's time for another

1:17:32

game of Who You Got, and today's

1:17:35

edition is revolved

1:17:37

around NFL draft wise stuff guys

1:17:40

were going with the NFL draft. So why

1:17:42

don't we get started with this.

1:17:43

We got the three.

1:17:45

This man was actually

1:17:49

an undrafted free agent.

1:17:52

He is also a one

1:17:54

time Super Bowl champion.

1:17:58

And third guest I'll give you is is he

1:18:01

played corner but was actually ranked

1:18:03

as a free safety prospect coming out of college.

1:18:06

So mark with that, Martin, VJ.

1:18:08

Who you got one time

1:18:11

undrafted cornerback, one

1:18:13

time Super Bowl champion.

1:18:14

VJ, go ahead with your first guest. You got one. For

1:18:18

some reason, my mind's going to a New England

1:18:20

Patriot team too, going

1:18:22

to a Patriot team. Okay, VJ, go

1:18:25

first, you got one. That's

1:18:29

the problem. I don't though that's the project. I just it just.

1:18:33

Browner, Brandon Browner. You mean yes, no,

1:18:36

but I know that as a fellow Hawk, I know

1:18:38

that. What's his name, Michael,

1:18:41

I'm Malcolm Butler. Ooh

1:18:43

good poll, But no, it's not

1:18:46

all right. We'll go with one more. In

1:18:50

his rookie season, he made

1:18:52

the Pro Football Writers of America

1:18:54

All Rookie.

1:18:55

Team Rookie

1:18:58

corner now okas or rookie. So

1:19:01

he was nice. He was nice as

1:19:03

a rook coming in. Man,

1:19:08

the undrafted is what's got me. The

1:19:11

undrafted is because every name. It hits my head. I'm

1:19:13

like, no, he was a fourth. I nope, he was a fifth, right right,

1:19:16

hm hmm. And

1:19:18

we don't have a team to associate it with. We don't

1:19:21

have it.

1:19:23

No, that's fine, I know what I'm saying.

1:19:26

We don't have a team. So all right, I'll

1:19:28

give you guys. I'll give you guys another hint,

1:19:31

just to kind of help help.

1:19:32

Her a little bit.

1:19:32

He is a four time pro bowler and

1:19:35

has made first team All Pro once.

1:19:37

This in the big league is not college or rookie stuff.

1:19:40

This is after that.

1:19:42

Four time Pro ball, four time pro

1:19:44

bowler made first team All Pro and also

1:19:46

second team All Pro twice.

1:19:50

Tracy Porter, who was drafted

1:19:53

No but good one, but no, I'll

1:19:55

take a swab. I don't know if he got a Super Bowl nom

1:19:58

awesome.

1:19:59

I like that.

1:19:59

But no, oh all right, I'll do

1:20:01

all right, I'm gonna Get'm gonna drop this one. He played

1:20:03

for the University of Kansas Jayhawks.

1:20:07

Baby is this to leave? But

1:20:10

he was a first round draft pick.

1:20:12

I believe good point. No,

1:20:14

No, but I like where you were thinking. Kansas

1:20:18

corner. So at Kansas corner,

1:20:21

Kansas corner, Kansas corner, Kansas.

1:20:26

Did he play for the Cheese I'll

1:20:29

give you this one. No he did not. Okay, so

1:20:31

do you want me?

1:20:32

You want me to give you the last Guessince for he

1:20:34

has played for the Chargers, the

1:20:37

Saints, and the Denver Broncos,

1:20:42

most notably the Denver Broncos.

1:20:44

Broncos undrafted,

1:20:47

It's gonna be somebody who was opposite a Champ.

1:20:49

Yeah, all right, I'll give

1:20:51

you Chris Harrison. Okay,

1:21:00

I tell my cat, I till my cat

1:21:02

to damn.

1:21:03

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1:21:04

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should be VJ. Right now, there

1:21:25

are seven minutes left in the third quarter

1:21:27

of the Lakers in the like this game.

1:21:28

We'll get to the NFL Draft again in just a moment.

1:21:31

Here there are seven minutes left,

1:21:33

six fifty three to be exactly six fifty

1:21:35

seven, score seventy

1:21:37

to fifty five in favor of Los Angeles.

1:21:41

I haven't written down right here. They had a fifteen

1:21:43

point lead with ten minutes left as well. Are

1:21:47

we just waiting for the inevitable to happen

1:21:49

here?

1:21:50

It doesn't feel like it tonight. It doesn't as I'm

1:21:52

sitting here watching the game, and I just to be

1:21:54

clear, the inevitable will be Denver walking

1:21:56

them down and sending them home. No, because

1:21:59

AD's on fired, That's why. And if

1:22:01

they just keep going to Ad, they'll

1:22:03

be fine. I've always said since he got there,

1:22:06

the offense needs to go through Ad.

1:22:08

Be about Ad. Replicated Ad. He's

1:22:11

the guy you gotta get going because it truly

1:22:13

does open up everything else

1:22:15

for everybody. Lebron can get everybody

1:22:17

involved because he's ball dominant, has the ball

1:22:19

all the time in his hand, makes the passes, makes

1:22:21

the offense around him and about him.

1:22:24

But when you go through Ad, he's just so

1:22:26

hard to guard. Yokic is great, but

1:22:28

Yoki's not athletic. Yokicch can't jump

1:22:31

to My four year old son Cameron can

1:22:33

jump higher than Nicola. Jokic can

1:22:35

so he's not athletic. Ads get offensive

1:22:38

rebounds and tips while Jokic is missing

1:22:40

buddies because the threat of Ads explosive

1:22:42

enough to be able to block shots. But the

1:22:44

way Ad is playing tonight tells

1:22:46

me that they can pull this one

1:22:49

off. Ten or thirteen from the field right now, two or

1:22:51

two from the free throw line, fourteen boards,

1:22:53

and twenty two points in the middle of the

1:22:55

third quarter, he's looking at him, thirty eight

1:22:58

and eighteen tight with

1:23:01

elimination on the line. They keep playing

1:23:03

like that, I think it'd be fine. Now for the guys

1:23:05

start jacking up bad shots, making it about them

1:23:08

and trying to go for their stats, then something different can

1:23:10

happen. But it just has a feel to

1:23:12

it that the Lakers, the kid

1:23:14

Ports and all also Denvers to shooting

1:23:16

twenty five percent from the three point three

1:23:19

point line. So Lakers, but Denver's a much better

1:23:21

three point shooting team than that. Lakers can't shoot,

1:23:23

so I expect twenty five percent for them, but not Denver. We'll

1:23:26

see how it turns out. I tend

1:23:28

to think that we might still This game is

1:23:30

gonna be a close game down there. Fifteen

1:23:33

points right now, so we've

1:23:35

seen work.

1:23:36

You know, the Lakers had a twenty point lead in the third

1:23:39

quarter earlier in this series and FORLU

1:23:41

that too, So we'll see what ends up happening

1:23:43

there. But let's go ahead transition shift

1:23:45

gears back to the NFL Draft.

1:23:47

Yeah, be there.

1:23:48

I want to know who is your number one

1:23:50

guy that's set up for success in

1:23:53

the draft?

1:23:54

You know, obviously rookie that just got placed.

1:23:58

I'm not even gonna do the Homer thing right

1:24:00

here because I could say JJ, but I'm going to

1:24:02

surprise some people right here. And I think it's

1:24:04

Caleb Williams, the way they

1:24:06

have attacked the offseason. Chicago,

1:24:09

Ibra, Flus, all those guys, you're on the clock,

1:24:12

and I think they all know it. They know it the writings

1:24:14

on the wall. You go get your generational quarterback.

1:24:17

I don't like the word generational, but that's what they's been

1:24:19

touted as. That's the word the rest of the pundits

1:24:21

put out there. But and then uh,

1:24:23

you add Romadoonza. I thought that combination

1:24:26

of adding this feels like last

1:24:28

year when the Texans

1:24:31

got their guy and CJ. Stroud and then

1:24:34

their head coach got their guy for his side

1:24:36

of the Ball and Will Anderson, and it worked

1:24:38

out perfectly for them, and it's

1:24:40

only going to get better. I also just

1:24:43

a sidebar b JJ is

1:24:45

set up, but also that Dallas Turner

1:24:47

pick for them to give the

1:24:49

Flores. Flores may not have a good

1:24:52

head coaching tenure with the Dolphins stuff,

1:24:54

but the man can coach defense.

1:24:56

Heighst Blitz success rate in the NFL

1:24:58

of all thirty two teams. They just bring

1:25:00

pressure and pressure and pressure, and then you add

1:25:03

a young stud like that. So you get your quarterback

1:25:05

and you get another defensive future

1:25:07

pro ball or young stud. They would be my bee.

1:25:09

But I like what Chicago really did here

1:25:11

man not going for a defensive player

1:25:14

because I thought at nine it's like, okay, take the best defensive

1:25:16

guy on the board at nine to add, But

1:25:18

they said, no, we're gonna give our

1:25:20

generational, our star number one over a quarter

1:25:23

We're gonna give him a big time weapon to

1:25:25

start his career with. So

1:25:28

I think he set up right now for the

1:25:30

best success as far as the top rookie, especially the quarterbacks

1:25:33

that got picked this week.

1:25:34

I mean, Caleb has got more resources

1:25:37

from he made, you know, off the top

1:25:39

of my head of the most resources a number one

1:25:42

pick had around him in the end

1:25:44

and the history of the NFL.

1:25:45

Justin phields, I'm pissed. I'm like, what, Yeah, I

1:25:47

would like what I would have liked? I

1:25:51

don't like tall of that cool.

1:25:54

Yeah feels I'm pissed.

1:25:57

That would have been cool.

1:25:58

Real quick, before I get in the mind, you're saying it's fifty

1:26:00

eight on Twitter.

1:26:02

He always asked us a draft question.

1:26:04

I actually knew the answer to this one before I read

1:26:06

it because most of the times, as he

1:26:09

likes to do, it's the one that's always kind of out of left

1:26:11

field, and I think you'll find it interesting, all

1:26:14

right.

1:26:14

He says. NFL Draft. In

1:26:16

the nineteen sixty eight draft.

1:26:18

The Cowboys drafted two future Hall of famers

1:26:20

ray Field right in the seventh round.

1:26:23

What other future Hall of famers did they draft

1:26:25

in the eleventh round? Now

1:26:28

here's the key for

1:26:30

my knowledge. This guy never ever played

1:26:32

football ever, like

1:26:35

at any at any meaningful stop. Like I'm

1:26:37

sure maybe he played grade school, high school, something like that, but

1:26:40

he is not known for football.

1:26:43

So he's an actor, no.

1:26:46

Involved in sports, involved

1:26:48

in sports, but never but never

1:26:51

played, never played, and got drafted

1:26:54

and I promise it's somebody that you know

1:26:56

their career and know it well. Never

1:27:00

played.

1:27:03

Not an actor, No,

1:27:05

somebody plays him on I used to playing on a TV

1:27:08

show just got canceled recently.

1:27:10

Oh god, the show

1:27:12

was on HBO. If that helps. No,

1:27:15

you know, I don't watch TV more. I

1:27:18

don't. Man, go ahead, get this because I'm good.

1:27:21

Is this gonna be one of those Oh no,

1:27:23

it's just just I think it's a genuinely interesting

1:27:25

fact. Who's you got, pat, Oh

1:27:29

man.

1:27:29

I'm not big on the hbos either.

1:27:31

It's hard. I'm not big on the HBO.

1:27:34

I don't know, man, like I I

1:27:38

want you toobe man all right.

1:27:39

In the eleventh round, with pick two and eighty

1:27:42

five, the Dallas Cowboys selected

1:27:44

pat Riley Why as a

1:27:46

wide receiver out of Kentucky.

1:27:48

Wow.

1:27:48

In the note section next on the Wikipedia

1:27:51

signed with the NBA laker pat

1:27:53

Riley. Pat Riley, Riley, pat Riley. Hey,

1:27:56

George, that's a good one, Bri. You can win some

1:27:58

bar money off that one.

1:27:59

Pat Riley pat Right. Pat Riley was

1:28:01

drafted by the Dallas Cowboy eleventh round

1:28:05

shot not wow Wow,

1:28:09

fun, dude, that's a fun trivia stat

1:28:12

I had no idea Pat Riley had nothing to do with

1:28:14

football.

1:28:14

I'm gonna go ask my dad's like right now and see

1:28:16

if he's listening.

1:28:18

I know he's not. You know that's true.

1:28:19

Yeah, here quick, the

1:28:25

Cowboys sixty seven draft. I

1:28:27

wonder who's running the Cowboys at that point in time.

1:28:30

Y'all get information on Martin VJ. Listeners

1:28:32

right trust me, listeners right now are like,

1:28:35

what the Pat? Right?

1:28:36

That's a good one, George to Tom Landry.

1:28:38

I guess he thought he had one that had one in Pat anyway,

1:28:43

Uh, well, I think he set up for success in

1:28:45

the NFL draft.

1:28:47

I know you said you didn't want to go Homer, but I

1:28:50

don't even think it's a Homer pick man.

1:28:51

I think JJ McCarthy is

1:28:53

walking in because I mean, I'm

1:28:56

not gonna lie Jack. I was worried,

1:28:58

okay, as a Michigan I

1:29:01

was legitimately concerned hearing

1:29:03

some of the talk about where JJ might

1:29:05

go and who he might be with.

1:29:07

Because this is Washington.

1:29:08

I spent a lot of time watching

1:29:11

this kid's college career. Would like

1:29:13

it to turn out well for him in the NFL,

1:29:15

Like, ultimately, does it matter to me in the scrant

1:29:18

scheme, not so much like if you bust,

1:29:20

I'm not gonna cry about it, but I would love it

1:29:22

if he played well. You know what I'm saying. I would love

1:29:24

it if he turned out well. And I

1:29:26

think going in there, you got Justin

1:29:28

Jefferson, Jordan Addison, adding

1:29:31

Aaron Jones, who when healthy is a real

1:29:33

pro out there, and all

1:29:36

shoj TJ. Hockinson on

1:29:38

the men back from the knee injury of last year.

1:29:40

But also the thing about it, Kevin mull,

1:29:43

Kevin McCart, Kevin O'Connell has

1:29:47

shown that he can dial it up

1:29:49

and very much in the Shanahan way of

1:29:52

do what I tell you to do.

1:29:55

And if there's one thing about JJ mccarts

1:29:58

please that we know to be factual,

1:30:01

it's not about his accuracy, it's not about his arm

1:30:03

strength. But that's the most cultural, probably

1:30:06

in the top five of the most cultural guys in this

1:30:08

drafty.

1:30:09

He will do what you tell him to do. If you tell

1:30:11

him JJ, throw the ball with your left hand, He's

1:30:13

gonna do it until it works right.

1:30:15

We saw that throughout the entirety of his time

1:30:18

in Michigan. That, I mean, what other

1:30:21

quarterback are they gonna

1:30:23

say, Jay turn around hand the ball off

1:30:25

thirty times in a game, and you don't

1:30:27

hear not a lick of anything.

1:30:31

Not from no teammates, not from him, not from

1:30:33

anybody, because it's about winning and

1:30:35

you have to know his story. And it's once again,

1:30:37

I can't help it that the guy played

1:30:40

for my favorite university college football

1:30:42

all these years of my life, and that our lowest

1:30:44

story in this story is cool. He's not from

1:30:46

IMG he's not from Florida, he just played there.

1:30:48

He's from Illinois. He got sent away.

1:30:51

I got sent away as a sophomore high school of the military

1:30:53

school to live in a dorm style school.

1:30:55

Okay, Like I can identify with that.

1:30:57

I know what that feels like. No, I didn't go

1:30:59

do oppression and was sitting in my door or anything like that. But

1:31:02

when I hear a guy talk about that, I

1:31:04

could put myself there, like, yeah, there were some lonely

1:31:06

nights.

1:31:06

Man.

1:31:06

You're away from your family. The god that's sleeping above you,

1:31:08

it's from another part of the country. You don't know who the hell he

1:31:11

is. But you're at this military school together. You're playing

1:31:13

football and playing basketball and playing baseball. The three

1:31:15

sports I played at Fishburn Military Academy

1:31:17

in Waynesboro, Virginia. Look it up

1:31:19

if you don't believe me, but it just

1:31:21

makes you like the kid. Then he just goes twenty seven

1:31:23

and one. What does he do for me? He smacks

1:31:26

Ohio State back to back years. It goes

1:31:28

fifteen to ohin one in National Championship And when you put the

1:31:30

tape on, he's accurate. Guys,

1:31:32

he makes the throws. And what's like Mark

1:31:34

said, and I said earlier with with Tyler

1:31:36

on, look at the weapons. You're coming

1:31:38

into the league as a rookie quarterback and I get

1:31:40

to throw to Justin Jefferson and then he called him the best

1:31:42

receiver in the league. I don't know if you agree with that. I think there's

1:31:45

an honest argument for that for Justin

1:31:47

Jefferson. But have you watched Addison run

1:31:49

routes and catch the ball? Have you watched Aaron

1:31:52

Aaron Jones? You know, think he's got chip on his shoulder being

1:31:54

ushered on his way out of Green Bay like that? And

1:31:57

what else? Has JJ also had

1:31:59

a receiver? Uh safety valve?

1:32:01

What does Aaron Jones do really well? As the running back catches

1:32:03

the ball out of the backfield. It's I'm with you. I just

1:32:06

I was trying not to be so much of a homer bro, but

1:32:08

because I do like what Chicago's done. But Chicago

1:32:11

had a good draft, and I'll

1:32:13

get off season. I think the lost.

1:32:15

Both Los Angeles teams had good drafts,

1:32:17

man. I really like the way that

1:32:19

they turned their stuff or what they did

1:32:21

with the picks that they had.

1:32:22

You see Jimmy go get Colston. You

1:32:24

see Jimmy Burger's go get Colstal.

1:32:26

Yeah.

1:32:26

I think that's more of an indictment on Kenneth Murray.

1:32:28

See you later number nine, Yeah, because

1:32:33

you're on the clock, just like I mean,

1:32:36

see you later was kind of the same thing that was happening on

1:32:38

Chargers defensive run plays too, because Kenneth

1:32:40

Murray was like, wait, wait, tackle

1:32:43

that's not supposed to do that exactly. You're to literally

1:32:46

watch him thinking sometimes.

1:32:48

Uh.

1:32:48

Also for a team

1:32:51

that I bagged bang on a lot, I think the Saints

1:32:53

had a really good draft, getting

1:32:55

to the offensive lineman in the first round,

1:32:58

kool Aid McKinstry in the second round. You

1:33:00

know, maybe if you don't have six quarterbacks on

1:33:02

the top twelve picks, maybe probably could

1:33:04

have slid into the first round in general, and

1:33:07

then adding a guy who I truly believe

1:33:09

has potential to be quarterback

1:33:11

of the future in Spencer Ratler in the fifth round.

1:33:14

When you look at him, I mean, if Caleb Williams

1:33:16

doesn't exist, is Spencer Ratland

1:33:18

is still a fifth rounder?

1:33:19

I don't think so. No, not at all. It's not even

1:33:21

that.

1:33:21

And I say that just because he got

1:33:24

benched for Caleb will exactly. That's

1:33:26

why I say that.

1:33:27

But also too, I think the measurables knocked

1:33:29

him down to this was the class. All these

1:33:31

guys are big guys. He's a big quarterbacks.

1:33:34

You got a couple of guys that sixty three six for Drake May

1:33:36

We haven't even mentioned his name on

1:33:38

the show. And he's a guy I actually felt

1:33:40

the worst four number one. He's got to go

1:33:42

play for the Patriots, and that's not the same system.

1:33:44

It was not the same thing. The Jets and I

1:33:47

hate him, they the bum ass Yetes, but their defense is legit

1:33:49

one of the best defensive lines and football. You see

1:33:52

what the Dolphins did well. We added through the draft. Brilliant

1:33:54

draft, brilliant that's not Homer. Just

1:33:56

go look at what we needed. Look what happened last

1:33:58

year, and look what the Dolphins at speed

1:34:01

again. Go put the tape on from

1:34:03

the kid from Tennessee. Go put the tape on from the

1:34:05

receiver from UVA. Just go put the tape

1:34:07

on. Guys. You don't have to listen to me or believe me, but

1:34:10

you guys told me the same thing about a chain at the Texas A and M

1:34:12

last year. I'm like, no, if you just go, if you watch enough colleg football,

1:34:14

you put the tape on. You you see these players of white, these guys

1:34:17

get drafted here. But just with

1:34:20

Drake ah Man that that's tough and Daniels,

1:34:23

I just I for some reason I overjudge

1:34:26