In this episode, Jared and Bobby have a great discussion with some friends who are in women in pastoral ministry roles. There is a lot of discussion as to whether or not women should lead churches or preach from pulpits. In this conversation, we hear some great dialogue that is balanced in scripture, biblical history, and personal experiences that have shaped their calls into ministry. **Marissa Rapoza** and** Kat Hampson** join us for this conversation, and man, we think you're going to enjoy it!

**Mary's Song**

Luke 1: 46-55 (NIV)

46 And Mary said:

“My soul glorifies the Lord47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,48 for he has been mindfulof the humble state of his servant.From now on all generations will call me blessed,49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me—holy is his name.50 His mercy extends to those who fear him,from generation to generation.51 He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.52 He has brought down rulers from their thronesbut has lifted up the humble.53 He has filled the hungry with good thingsbut has sent the rich away empty.54 He has helped his servant Israel,remembering to be merciful55 to Abraham and his descendants forever,just as he promised our ancestors.”