Andy Jones-Wilkins and Jennifer Raby join us to talk about running and racing during the pandemic. When will things go back to normal, what will normal look like? Does Andy have a brilliant new idea for a new product that everyone will buy? We get serious, we get silly.Support the podcast by making a monthly pledge to our Patreon pagewww.patreon.com/eastcoasttrailandultrapodcast[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/788431492" params="color=#ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&show_teaser=true&visual=true" width="100%" height="300" iframe="true" /]