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2:40

Welcome to the podcast man, we're

2:42

happy to have you thanks for having me So we

2:44

know who you are legend and hip-hop game, but

2:47

some of the audience may not know Can you do stuff to the people

2:49

real quick? They call me walk a flock of

2:51

flame? I'm

2:53

entertaining. That's just about it And

2:55

I just hustle. I just hustle. I

2:57

just use music as a trampoline. I just

2:59

hustle. Fair enough. Go ahead,

3:02

first you want to kick it off. Yeah. So obviously

3:04

speaking of right, we know what Walker Block from back in the day, you

3:07

know, from the streets, made a name for himself, met

3:09

a bunch of artists as well, became up. But

3:11

what was life like childhood

3:13

back then? For example, growing up with your family,

3:16

school, what was life like for you? Life

3:18

like for me? Yeah. Fun.

3:21

Fun? My whole life was fun. My

3:23

whole entire life, it's like literally being in

3:26

a big ass party. Yeah,

3:29

you can curse, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's it going? What's

3:31

it going, bro? It's definitely

3:33

a big ass party. It always felt like someone was

3:35

watching me every day of my life. So

3:38

mom and dad, pretty much regular school life?

3:41

Like, no, I didn't regular school life. It's just my

3:44

father was just a different human being. I had to. I

3:47

couldn't tell people like who my dad was when

3:49

I was younger, But everybody knew

3:51

me from my mother. So

3:54

it was like, it was kind of like weird and shit.

3:56

So my family was, I was like the kind of kid that

3:59

being a wrong... They're like, oh,

4:01

that's such and such son. Oh, that's such a nephew. Let

4:03

him go. Like, that kind of.

4:06

What'd your dad do? He's

4:08

just a good neighborhood guy. Yeah. Well

4:11

known. Like, good neighborhood. Cool.

4:14

Did you go up with him in your life or? Nah, my pops was

4:16

in jail. My pops was my hero though.

4:18

Cause my pops went to jail, like, basically trying

4:20

to support us.

4:21

And not in the most pleasant way, but shit.

4:24

To me, I always, I always idolized

4:26

that. Cause I was like, damn, being

4:30

a man, I idolized that. Excuse me, as a kid, I despise

4:32

it. And it's like, God damn, you left us? Well,

4:34

my mother like, but growing up to see

4:36

a man at risk his whole entire freedom, that

4:39

was his only way of doing it. To provide

4:41

for us, to me, I idolized that. I see, oh,

4:43

the shit I'm gonna do in life, I never risked my freedom

4:45

and leave my family.

4:46

No

4:47

matter what's on the plate, no matter how much

4:50

money, how big of the opportunity it is, no

4:52

matter what it is, me selling myself

4:54

or selling out for some cash,

4:56

is me leaving my family behind. So I always stuck

4:58

to that.

5:00

I learned that from my pops. Okay, so

5:02

you can learn from his mistakes. Definitely a strong guy,

5:04

a Muslim guy, stronger. Okay. Did

5:06

he convert when he was in? Not

5:08

sure, he's definitely Muslim outside of that.

5:10

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

5:13

growing up, so where are you from originally? Originally,

5:15

I'm from Jamaica, Queens, New York. Okay, and

5:18

how long did you live there? I stayed

5:20

in Jamaica, Queens, so I was in fifth grade. I left,

5:22

went to the Swats

5:24

in Atlanta by camera in the road next to like, Alison

5:27

court. I want, they called it brickwood.

5:29

Wow. When I got in there was parking Lakewood. I

5:32

moved from brickwood to Clayton County.

5:34

Uh, I lived in the swatch for like a

5:36

year and a half, two years. Then we left moved

5:38

to Clayton County in seventh grade and up.

5:41

I was raised in Clayton County. What was that like transitioning

5:43

from New York to being in the south? They

5:45

feel like I jumped in the time machine. Yeah.

5:50

I really thought I was going backwards because us

5:52

as fifth graders in New York. What year was this?

5:55

Roughly. I'll be 37. I'm 37. So you could go backwards.

6:00

I'm class 04. Okay.

6:02

So you go backwards. So this is like the late 90s. Yeah,

6:05

it was late 90s. Late 90s. Late 90s. Late

6:07

90s. Like 90 too. Because

6:10

I'm 33. So, yeah. It's like 92 is 93. Yeah.

6:13

Anywhere from 92 to 95.

6:14

A fifth grader then we

6:16

had them in like high school. Yeah. And

6:19

in Georgia, like eighth graders are high school. Yeah.

6:22

So we was way more hip. We was way more equipped. We

6:24

was more self-sufficient. Like, versus when I

6:26

got to Atlanta,

6:27

kids still was like, depending on the family, they

6:30

were still outside playing. It was like

6:32

a vibe. I'm like, oh shit, they got teen

6:34

clubs. I'm like, yo, I call my cousin, this shit is

6:36

crazy. I'm

6:40

staying down here. So you

6:42

liked a lot better than New York. Yeah. The

6:44

second time, the first time I ain't like I was on my extra New

6:47

York. She like, yo, I'm out. I was like, woo,

6:49

where was coming out then? I'm like, they gonna

6:51

rock my woo. and Uncle Ben, he

6:53

was getting all the free rapper stuff. So

6:56

all the industry stuff was always coming to our family.

6:57

So I was getting all like, you know, I was one of them

7:00

just outside, but then I ended

7:02

up coming back to Georgia and

7:04

freaking they popped up.

7:06

I came back, I almost fainted. I had

7:08

a, oh, my nose was bleeding the second time I came. It was

7:10

that fucking hot. I had a big ass woolish

7:12

on the Timberlands. I just seen girls

7:15

like shaking ass. They was like, yo, that's the male

7:17

right there. I'm like, what? It

7:19

was just crazy. It was just, it was bliss.

7:21

So you left, so you come down

7:23

in fifth grade and then you left and you went back

7:25

to New York and then you came back again? I got no,

7:27

I left this summer and went a little bit into

7:30

fifth grade of the school year and then

7:32

I got into a little problems and I just moved

7:34

back to Georgia my mother. Okay, so

7:36

you went back to New York, got in trouble and then came back again for the

7:38

second time. Okay. Back then do you have a job at all?

7:41

A job. Back then? Or do you want to work at all

7:43

back then? Uh yeah my job is just,

7:46

it was my eyes. It

7:48

was my ears. I

7:50

got paid for that. What

7:53

does that mean? Say, you

7:55

should bring. Okay. I

7:58

know what he means by that. Okay,

8:01

so so you graduate high school in 04

8:03

and then I didn't graduate high school. You didn't

8:05

graduate? No, I actually I was one

8:07

of them people like

8:08

I never skipped class by the way. So many people

8:10

that skipped class was just the dumbest one. Fuck

8:12

is hard. She's a fucking I'm like why the fuck come to school

8:15

if you skip class is dumb. I never

8:17

came to school high. I never came to school drunk.

8:19

None of that shit. Because I still

8:22

I

8:22

was just my mother my grandmother embedded

8:24

the adult fear in me.

8:26

I was just so scared to disrespect

8:28

and adult because my grandmother came to school and whooped

8:30

my ass before. And my

8:33

mother is not the one. I'm telling her, my mom would not. If

8:35

you listen, she'll knock your ass out at

8:37

the lunch room.

8:38

Well, I'm dead seriously. So to me,

8:40

to have respect was different. And plus

8:42

I know I wasn't living the most pleasant lifestyle at

8:45

the time. So I was like, yo, anything I could take attention

8:47

off of me, I'm waiting.

8:48

Okay. So did

8:51

you end up dropping out? Yeah. Okay. I

8:53

got kicked out. You got a gang stuff. Oh

8:56

shit. Okay. You got like enough fuck somebody

8:58

up or they just were like just

9:00

affiliation then I just I

9:02

was just fucking up people's uh face

9:04

cards or like let my nephew in this

9:06

school It was just bad. I was going

9:09

to school like gang jeans. I

9:11

I put fucking head squad on my jeans like

9:13

fuck I was like, oh come I was just

9:15

bugging out. What started hit squad,

9:17

huh? What started hit squad? I don't know man.

9:19

I was just a whole bunch like a neighborhood friends. It's

9:21

a neighborhood thing. Okay, so happy

9:24

guys So you dropped out of high school and

9:26

then what at that point?

9:27

You're what maybe 15 16 at this point

9:30

now what this the problem will happen to high school.

9:32

So in school

9:34

Like the first week I was about to play the game like I'm suited

9:36

up. I'll play ninth grade basketball Okay,

9:39

I get into a fight. Okay, damn This

9:42

is when these guys then they try to jump me my

9:44

brother jumped in people didn't know I had a brother So

9:46

I got suspended a week before the two-week

9:49

break

9:50

Okay. So that means I've done that last month.

9:52

Yeah. Schoolwork. So by

9:54

the time I get back to school that following week, I got

9:56

to miss that week, too so that's a full four

9:58

weeks so I'm like

10:00

I'm like, I miss all this. Of course, like it's

10:02

all good. Why can you still play? And

10:04

I had to do suicides and pushups

10:06

and shit. I was with it. I wanted to be outside,

10:08

man. I ain't gonna lie, I wanted to be outside. I

10:11

gave up.

10:12

I didn't

10:13

have it. I didn't believe in myself. I

10:16

believed in the streets because that shit was right then and there.

10:18

Plus my mother was doing like foundation stuff. I

10:21

barely see my mother. She got a cooked dinner. Damn

10:23

near on her way from her. She used to work.

10:26

She had this one job, then work at Dollar General

10:28

part-time, and then work for the city

10:30

doing like child services and shit. Yeah. So

10:33

when she come home before a part-time job, she already

10:35

cooking dinner and shit. So for me, my

10:37

mother is my God. That's my hero. So

10:39

it's a big difference. So I want to pocket

10:42

like this, but to me, a woman is God to

10:44

me. But my mom is she's God to me. This

10:46

is a woman I've never seen. I've never seen her drink

10:49

in my life, smoke in my life.

10:51

I never see her laying in bed with men in my life.

10:53

I've never seen her like complain. I've

10:55

never heard my mother say, I got too many fucking

10:58

kids. I can't take care of like, I

11:00

just seen a,

11:01

that's the first part I seen with a

11:04

gun, a million dollars, a fast car, Jerry,

11:06

a boss, everything. Wow. So how

11:09

many siblings did you have?

11:10

I got four brothers, one sister. And

11:12

y'all were all living together at the time? Yeah. Periodically.

11:15

Yeah. But all my brothers, we definitely live together. All

11:17

right. So going back just so people kind of get an idea.

11:19

So your ninth grade, you,

11:22

you got suspended. I did it. Yeah.

11:24

The elementary school, we live, elementary

11:26

school, my mother left from New York because

11:28

that's

11:28

back when she got, she got shot

11:30

basically. Oh, lifestyle was real.

11:32

She like, fuck, I'm changing my life. So she

11:35

was, she moved to Georgia, my, my grandmother

11:37

kept us. Okay. So she got her life together.

11:39

Now we move back down there. Gotcha. So that's how

11:41

that happened.

11:42

Okay. Yeah. So, so she was stabilized

11:44

by the time y'all went down to Georgia and she has some

11:46

stuff set up. You said, yeah, she had a couple jobs. For the most part,

11:48

you know, the protection aids, them gray, okay.

11:50

Government assistance, food stamps, she just made

11:53

it look good. Yeah. Boy, but I couldn't

11:55

even point out like what one job, everything

11:57

else, one was just hustler. She's

11:59

gonna get.

12:00

it like it's no my mother never

12:02

told me your walker go make money today your

12:04

walker go to school make money to this day i never

12:06

my life heard her say that like we

12:08

i don't think we promoted that like how like

12:11

she got a ill way of like

12:13

showing love like she don't tell you

12:16

i love you she fucking show you like

12:18

you wouldn't you wouldn't even get love confused so

12:21

for a nigga like me i know what love is so it's different

12:23

that's why i really don't complain about shit because

12:25

i know what it is. So,

12:28

so you get you get suspended from school for

12:30

that month and then you decide, you know, I'm just going to drop out because

12:32

you were gone for a month and you're like, fucking them game.

12:35

That shit was fun to like, I

12:37

had 14 at this time. Yeah, I was like 15, 16. It

12:41

was just fun. Yeah. Streets was fun.

12:43

I wasn't even in the streets for all

12:46

the money. I want to respect like my

12:48

shit was just straight respect. And

12:50

it was fun as a motherfucker. Like it was

12:52

just fun into reality

12:55

kicked in. Yeah. How important is respect in

12:57

the streets? How important is respect in the streets? Well,

13:00

that shit is as important as the spinal cord

13:02

in your back. Without that, you're done. But

13:05

with respect, you got to have brains. So a guy

13:07

who want respect first is a guy that's smart

13:09

enough to know that.

13:10

So you got to have brain power first.

13:13

Yeah. So you

13:15

said the streets were fun and then reality caught up to you. How

13:17

did how did that reality kick in? Man.

13:21

I

13:23

see reality kicked in like when probably

13:27

not even like part of drugs. I

13:30

had a partner named John John. John John

13:33

was on Xanax, jumped

13:35

off a moving truck. Oh, yeah.

13:37

When folks, when people want to visit

13:39

him, he

13:40

didn't know nobody's name, but he's stable now. Funny

13:43

as fuck. That fucked

13:44

me up. I had a younger homie named

13:46

Traff.

13:48

He got killed. The

13:49

person that killed them was on ecstasy.

13:51

So like a lot of like, for me, drugs

13:54

did it for me. Yeah.

13:55

You know what I'm saying? Like, I had another friend that

13:58

killed two of our other friends. He was in the back. see

14:00

blue, they brains are killed.

14:02

So it's just like, what was he like? It's

14:04

just shit like that. Like it was too much.

14:06

I'm just, I can't cross a friend up.

14:08

They got to a point where I was gonna start killing

14:10

my friends. I mean, I'm gonna

14:12

be a hundred with you. I had a heart to do that.

14:14

I ain't

14:15

never my life punch line the face that I called

14:17

my brother. Like, I'm just not that kind

14:19

of nigga like, just keeping it funky with

14:21

y'all. So I had a choice like, yo,

14:24

I'm not wrong.

14:25

Like I had to tell myself like, and rap showed

14:27

me that, or I'm actually showing like, nigga walking,

14:29

you ain't cutthroat like this, you tripping like,

14:32

nigga, I'm not with that double crossing shit, like,

14:34

I never was in the streets to be a street nigga,

14:37

I was in the streets to learn, to

14:39

capitalize, to make it, to have brotherhood, that's

14:42

why I was pushing them, whatever I was pushing

14:44

outside. I never did it to snatch a purse,

14:46

bully a nigga, he had a different color, wrong

14:49

set, shit like that, it was never that, it was respect,

14:52

money, organization, that's what

14:54

I was on. But

14:54

when that devilish shit start

14:57

kicking in, You're backstabbing each other sleeping

14:59

with each other girlfriends and it's too much conniving

15:01

shit. I had to back up I just see my

15:04

life ending in the wrong routes. How

15:06

were you when you came to this realization? I

15:08

was like 18 Okay,

15:10

so you've been the streets fly to three years at this point and

15:12

I was in the streets my whole life my boy Okay,

15:15

literally, but

15:16

I mean like after high school. I mean nigga literally

15:18

after you left ice. We got literally I was around niggas.

15:20

I was Literally, so

15:23

it's just that's that you don't say it's a difference.

15:25

I wasn't in the streets I was born in

15:27

it. It's not like a thing

15:29

of choice. This

15:32

is the only lifestyle. I never knew how

15:34

to live life outside of street

15:36

shit until I ran. Maybe

15:39

I never thought about no fucking

15:41

real estate or no financial literacy

15:44

or no fucking taxes. Like,

15:46

who gives a fuck about taxes? I'm in the streets, nigga,

15:48

we don't pay taxes. So it's a difference

15:50

in who's teaching us, like just being 100, right?

15:53

So it was that vibe. I was just real

15:55

to who I am. Like, I'm not trying to be.

15:58

That's

15:58

just what I was. What's that look to me? the whole

16:00

time you were in the streets you had integrity and I carried you

16:02

through the whole process. That's powerful man. I

16:05

couldn't wait to get out. I was the kind of

16:07

guy that I was the nigga that they were when I get out I'm going

16:09

like I'm not coming back to smoke three blunts

16:11

with you and I'm

16:13

like I'm a real nigga no way.

16:15

It's

16:15

not it. Then I had people that are saying they OGs

16:18

it's different. I was born with my OGs so

16:20

my mother's my uncle's like they was legends to

16:22

me but in the streets you still got other

16:24

OGs and I started thinking like damn

16:27

these niggas brown I only fuck like, this

16:29

nigga ain't even got a LLC.

16:31

You know what I'm saying? Like just being real, bro. Like I

16:33

ain't know about bank accounts, I was 23. It's

16:36

not because my momma couldn't teach me, she ain't got time to

16:38

teach me. My grandma got an eighth

16:40

grade education. That shit

16:42

stuck with me my whole life. Like Walker,

16:45

you made it already nigga, your grandma got an eighth grade

16:47

education, y'all good.

16:48

So if I got this far, I'll imagine what the next

16:50

kids would do. So that's how I think.

16:53

That's dope. So, um, so

16:55

you were, so you're 18 at this point

16:57

and you realize, Hey, this isn't for me because you see your

17:00

friends backstabbing each other. I've been seeing it wasn't for

17:02

me. 16, 15. I've been seeing it. I

17:04

just ain't like I've been seen this, but

17:06

it's a difference, right? I always hear people on the end.

17:09

They talk about people in the streets and

17:10

they stupid and they did stay that. See

17:12

y'all motherfuckers talking for my bird eye view

17:15

is different. See people that's talking

17:17

about it over standard because they looking over. These

17:19

niggas are stuck in it. This is where they eat breakfast

17:22

at lunch dinner. think. So it's

17:24

different. Like when you're in it, you like,

17:26

you like crabs in a bucket, basically, like, I cannot

17:28

wait to get something to pull me to fuck out. Like

17:31

that's how I was. Was rap your way out? Rap

17:34

was the only way I got out. How'd you get into rap?

17:36

My mother. I got locked

17:38

up.

17:39

My mother was doing like, Ludacris

17:41

Foundation at the time. It was Chris

17:43

Love 11 on the radio and Poondad.

17:46

I got locked up. I was

17:48

looking at, And

17:50

I was looking at like,

17:52

it's like a five dude, 10.

17:54

And my mother's like, I know somebody down there in the

17:56

city, I'm like, all right, my mom, just call me when you got

17:58

something. I was already in my mind.

18:00

I'm going to jail. Fuck it. Let me just lock

18:02

in. What'd you get locked up for?

18:07

Something dumb saw no shock.

18:09

Okay, but dig a look it up.

18:11

Fuck it They do everything

18:12

but my mom my mother comes like walk a liar.

18:15

Let me talk to you I'm about to do she's you know, you

18:17

took the branch and I throw your mind off shit See, I'm

18:19

about to another community event. I'm like, well, she's like well

18:21

gooch and Jesus I'm like, oh go to gooch and that's

18:23

how I happen. So y'all want you go on the road I

18:26

just want you to learn so I know if you're on the road My

18:28

mind is good cuz I'm always you call me every night like you're

18:31

alright you okay like I used to worry the fuck out So

18:33

when I went on a roll, I seen them. I'm a little

18:36

fresh breath. It is this is right after you got

18:38

out Yeah, yeah, yeah when I got a so to

18:40

me I looked at like goose like fuck it We have

18:42

become best friends So we became like damn

18:44

that friends like a big brother little brother

18:46

shit to me till we seen out of our show

18:48

at once Barnes up,

18:50

but I just I seen as

18:52

an investment for my mom So I had to protect the investment

18:55

and I just learned Like the game. Because

18:58

your mom knew that if you stayed in that environment,

19:00

you wouldn't grow. But you going under the road. Nah, she ain't know

19:02

that. She learned me by

19:04

being in that environment. She didn't know

19:07

half the shit I was doing. Like, I'm going to

19:09

see, she's like, I got like, Mom, good, I'm here. She's

19:11

saying it. She's like, what the fuck? Like, you

19:13

was doing this in my house? Yeah,

19:16

definitely.

19:16

Oh, damn. So she didn't find out that you were doing all

19:18

that stuff until you went to jail? Yeah, until

19:20

she hit shit up. One time a friend came like, hey, your

19:23

son shot my house up. It was like all kind of shit.

19:25

Oh, shit. I just don't

19:27

like bragging about shit. My boy. I'm kind

19:29

of if you don't believe it don't believe it. Thank God. Yeah

19:32

So you see you go to jail? How

19:35

much time do you spend in there? Zero? Don't worry. It

19:37

was not prison County

19:41

jail, I'll just fight him. Okay. Yeah, I was stuck

19:43

in there for like a couple months. Okay, so you're

19:46

in the county jail I

19:48

got locked up

19:50

Like it was this row. Yeah,

19:52

they were shedding light on that part. Yeah, the county jail

19:54

sucks, bro jail jail in general

19:57

sucks who the fuck want to go to prison I want

19:59

to go there and come back. Diesel

20:00

or Smiley. Fuck

20:02

out of there. I should free and read a

20:04

book, nigga. I'm not about to go to jail to read. Yeah.

20:07

Hell no. All right. So you were in there, and

20:09

then your mom put you up with Gucci Mane.

20:12

Yes, she told me to put me on the road. What was that like,

20:14

meeting him the first time? Oh. Not

20:18

my first time meeting Gucci was at a club. He

20:21

already go. He was going to. He was performing at a

20:23

club. He had a good local

20:25

song that niggas that Rob love. We

20:27

used to just love the record. I am from, you know

20:29

what I mean? Me and my partner, he had some shit called

20:31

in the black tee. Like, you up in my black tee. Oh, yeah,

20:34

yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is, oh, wow. I'm

20:36

trying to remember. This is what, like 2007?

20:39

Seven. Seven, yeah. Five.

20:41

2007 to the, okay.

20:43

And I see he was on stage back then.

20:45

And I,

20:47

he's like, yo, man, y'all got to perform. You popping

20:49

up? I'm like, where you at? He's like, Trapp, I said, oh, I'm here

20:51

already. I got a hundred niggas with him. He was like,

20:53

what? I got a hundred niggas with him. This

20:55

is before he even know he think I'm like a mother's

20:58

boy and she'll hang on my mom. So we

21:00

get there

21:01

and we got on stage and we just

21:03

was lit. Like people from Clank County where I'm from

21:05

do what I do like headband, trash shaker, pushing,

21:08

fighting like just on some gangster shit. It

21:10

just go down. And Goot seeing that where

21:12

it showed the next day, my mother called me,

21:14

she's like, yo Walker, what the fuck happened at the show? I'm

21:16

like, oh shit, she found out what happened in the parking lot.

21:19

I'm like, oh shit. I'm like, what happened?

21:22

My tell me, she was like, yo, they love this show. They

21:24

say, yo, Gucci new hype, man. And

21:26

him, it's

21:27

lit. I'm like, hype, man. The fuck

21:30

is? I didn't even know what the fuck that was. And

21:32

she was like, hype, man. I'm like, bet I'm doing it. I'm gone.

21:34

To me, that was I was gone. I didn't give a fuck. I'm

21:37

like, you know what I'm saying? My mind,

21:38

shit, boy, you were starting me. We gone. OK.

21:41

So at that point, you knew that first show, you

21:43

were there on stage with him. Yeah, I'm like, oh, y'all like

21:45

that. It's over. We gone. It's over. That's

21:47

it. What happened in the parking lot, though? Fireworks.

21:51

Fireworks. He got kicked out that motherfucker.

21:54

Yeah, that shit crazy. All right. So

21:56

y'all turns it up. So you went on tour

21:58

with him right after that.

22:00

Yeah, we just start going on a road. We just

22:02

came like best friend

22:03

locked in every day. What was that like?

22:05

I really never

22:08

even had a best friend of mine. That was like really like the

22:10

first person I ever kicked shit with. It

22:12

was different because

22:13

for once life for

22:15

me wasn't about me. I was like,

22:18

let it be about y'all. So it was really my momma

22:20

and Gucci dream I'm living. So it wasn't

22:22

people got it fucked up like Walker and Gucci. Now

22:25

I was living my momma and Gucci dream. Then

22:27

it turned into my mama Gucci and Young Juice

22:30

dream. Then it turned into my mother Gucci,

22:32

Juice, Wu and Frenchie dream. So it's

22:34

like, I'm watching them.

22:36

So that shit was just kind

22:38

of better. You know what I mean? I escaped my life.

22:41

My goddamn man, I'm going from that shit. Like

22:43

three, four, five, six months, my mouth dry shit.

22:45

I was going on. We'll

22:48

get you some water. I was away from

22:50

basically the gangster shit. You know what I mean? Six months,

22:53

I come back and they say, I was like, you rich, I'm like, rich by

22:55

hell. I only got 2,000 by pocket. Shrieval.

22:59

Did you ever think,

23:01

scanning that moment with Gucci would change your life?

23:05

Um, nah,

23:08

you know what's crazy? Because when I got with Gucci, I seen

23:10

niggas just like me. Like, I think,

23:12

I think if

23:14

I never met Gucci, me and probably wouldn't be

23:17

alive. Honest to God, true.

23:19

I think for

23:21

me to even creditize anything, because it's a lot

23:23

I did, it's a lot he did, right? But

23:26

the biggest thing I learned

23:29

over the years is we

23:31

needed each other to go for it. It's

23:34

a lot of shit that I protected

23:36

him from that unconsciously

23:38

that he don't know. And

23:40

it's a lot of shit that he unconsciously did

23:43

that he don't know, you know what I'm saying?

23:46

What would he be this healthy? Would I be this

23:48

person? Like it's just a difference.

23:50

I've seen a lot.

23:52

I just feel like I endured more though.

23:54

So I got to see like the effects of shit.

23:57

I still stay in contact with some people that we had

23:59

shit going on with. And

24:01

I always thought to myself, I'm like, yo, every number

24:03

one need a number two.

24:04

I kept saying that in my head. I'm like, damn,

24:07

if he could be Jordan, fuck it. Let

24:09

me be Scottie Pippa. Right. Cause I don't rap

24:11

anyway. I don't give a fuck. Like I just

24:13

don't, I just, to me, I think everybody

24:15

that call themselves number one need to find them a number

24:17

two

24:18

that want to learn. That's

24:20

the difference. Don't find a number two that want to be

24:22

you.

24:23

Find a number two that want to learn. And

24:25

you never know what that person evolving will come,

24:27

but everybody need a number two.

24:30

And in corporate world, they call it an assistant. You know

24:32

what I'm saying? On

24:34

the streets, which you want to blade, they call it an assistant

24:36

pimp.

24:37

I see one of

24:39

your interviews before, and you had mentioned

24:41

how when Gucci was blowing up,

24:44

and he was really growing, and people were starting to really catch

24:47

on, that

24:48

you kind of took it like, yo, our job

24:51

is to make sure that he's good. Like he doesn't carry

24:53

any bags, we're going to make sure that he shines, and

24:55

he does well. And, you know, and I thought

24:57

that was It was very interesting that loyalty. Where

24:59

did that come from?

25:00

That's in me right now. My artist,

25:02

that's just what you signed up for. This

25:05

is just

25:06

what it is. I don't know,

25:08

my boy. I can't work with you and you be like, yo, you sick.

25:11

I'm like, all right, call me when you get healthy. Nah, my nigga, yo, let's

25:13

go to the doctor, yo. Come on, let's go to therapy. My nigga is up.

25:16

That's just what it is. I'm

25:18

just not the person to be embarrassed. I never

25:20

could stand next to y'all and be like, they see me too.

25:22

Man, fuck that. I'm doing my job. Hey, y'all watch

25:25

out. Hey, let them shine. A lot of artists

25:27

today don't even have that guy. A

25:29

lot of artists today don't have a number two. That's

25:31

why they losing a real nigga today.

25:34

I don't know what hood they from or anybody

25:36

rapping. But

25:37

if you got some real partners, I'd be like, bro, look,

25:39

bro, you ain't gotta be spinning nowhere, nigga. We

25:41

need you free, nigga, we tryna get up outta here. I

25:44

just had real partners like that.

25:47

Even though I'm going, while my buddies is

25:49

going too, we

25:51

got this, bro, hell nah. So

25:53

I really had dumb kind of partners and we really

25:56

grabbed each other forward.

25:57

I see how a lot of people losing people today

25:59

was.

26:00

we really never lost me. So

26:02

it's just different. It's funny because before

26:04

we even met, right, I had people asking

26:06

about you, about if we're gonna podcast or something like that,

26:08

they say Waka is a genuine person and

26:11

like that goes a long way. So that's true, bro. If you're

26:13

genuine, you can shout out to yourself as well.

26:15

Oh shit, shout out.

26:17

For real. Okay, question brother. So

26:19

you got an AP on right now, right? Plain Jane

26:21

AP, no ice doubt, no chain right now. I'm

26:23

just curious. Let's say, look, right, I

26:26

wanna get into rap game, I wanna shine,

26:28

look the part. How would you say you should

26:30

come to the rap game through and through, like, from the very beginning?

26:32

Shine in, chain out, how should you come to the rap game,

26:35

you would say? Depending on your style.

26:36

I think it's all in your style. I think today

26:39

rappers who first get a

26:41

single go to Ice Top Watch. I

26:43

don't think they should do that. Start it back. Yeah,

26:45

yeah, slow down, my boy. Put that dirty-ass t-shirt

26:47

on.

26:48

Know what I mean? Put them local designers on.

26:50

Don't be jumping in Dior right

26:53

out the box because how your friends go

26:55

graduate and grow with you. So that's just the way I

26:57

see it.

26:58

I think it fit the image though. What made you like

27:00

just kind of like torn off of that? Like

27:03

me toning down.

27:07

Excuse me. It's a lot of shit, bro. It's like people

27:09

I've seen struggling. And then I

27:11

kept calling myself the boss. I'm the CEO. Till

27:15

I found out the CEO wasn't the boss.

27:17

I found out everybody was tricking me. I never

27:19

even monetized my YouTube channel because

27:21

Warner brother took it. Damn. Right

27:24

now, I held it hostage like on some black ball shit. So I

27:26

was banded from 20 plus states in America when

27:28

I dropped my cutting XE.

27:30

So it's different, you know what I'm saying? So for me- Yeah,

27:33

from 20 states? Oh yeah, the music was crazy.

27:35

But so it's just a different vibe with

27:38

me, bro. It's just a whole different vibe. I had to go a whole

27:40

different fucking route to be here. What

27:43

was the grounds that they, like did they say like the music

27:45

would like get the crowd too hype? Like-

27:48

Just violent. Violent? Too violent?

27:50

It was on some CB4 shit. Like, cannot play sweat for my

27:52

ball. If you play you go into jail, like shit

27:54

like that. Wow. That's a different

27:57

vibe back there. All right before fuck harden and

27:59

play people

28:00

just stuck on, it was shit that was

28:02

just, I had a song called like, Mexican's,

28:05

they don't wanna see us make it, blacks,

28:07

they don't wanna see us make it, fuck the

28:10

police, fuck the, that shit was about to

28:12

go crazy. They like, hey, did that. Yeah. But

28:14

I ain't know, that's the shit I was feeling. I felt

28:17

like they was making Mexican and black people

28:19

fight. That's just my opinion. So- That was

28:21

back then though, bro. I was on shit like

28:23

that. That was salute me and shoot me 2.5 before

28:26

hard in the paint. Wow. So I was talking this

28:28

fly shit I'm talking right here. back then my

28:30

mind just

28:32

didn't develop. I had no experience talking about

28:34

that. So going back real quick

28:36

to the Gucci stuff. So you guys were touring,

28:39

making music, yours hype, man, y'all

28:41

were killing it, being a music videos,

28:43

everything at that point. So

28:45

is that when you really started getting money at that point? Fuck

28:47

no. No, I make no money. All

28:49

respect the goose. I make nothing.

28:51

I'm getting $200 a show. Damn.

28:53

And I didn't even want that.

28:56

I said, get that shit back to my boy, throw all

28:58

the money in the club. Like Brian, you were with you

29:00

for them. I'm good, bro. Like, I never

29:02

was a, if he throw them with

29:04

the niggas wearing it, oh, mores and shit. I'm

29:06

like, niggas, I wear that shit after you done,

29:08

nigga. I'm not famous. You are. Like,

29:11

that's in my mind. But I was a white tee,

29:13

Levi, Cortez, Atlanta

29:16

Brave, that wearing it. So it's like,

29:18

you know what I'm saying? Like the Cortez? I

29:20

act capricious though, boy. I was acting my

29:22

age. You see what I'm saying? That's all.

29:25

I was just acting my age. I made money when

29:27

I wrapped

29:28

myself.

29:29

That's when my life changed. My life then I

29:31

didn't. You got to think like we didn't

29:34

have no money coming up. We live

29:36

with my mama, me and him, the Jack and

29:38

Jill.

29:39

Tell us about that first time you got in the studio and started

29:41

actually making music. How did that start? Did you tell

29:43

you, hey, you need to buy a way

29:45

he was in jail when I started. So

29:47

Gucci was locked up a year, six months into

29:50

his bed when I started. I time Gucci got

29:52

out. I already did a hundred shows at this

29:54

point. This is probably

29:56

I'm trying to remember what he was it for the gun charge.

29:59

I don't know He just, he just,

30:02

he just like some rap shit. You know, you know probation

30:04

has a rap. It's tough. Temptation

30:07

and all kinds of shit. So he was in jail. You

30:09

start rapping. Take us through that. Yo, he

30:11

got locked up. He probably was like four months

30:13

in. I'm like, damn, I can't be up through

30:16

it in the streets. I'm hot as a motherfucker.

30:18

Like I feel famous at this point.

30:20

Like it's crazy.

30:21

And one day I just went

30:23

in the studio where I had $0. And I made,

30:26

I fucked my money up. Came

30:28

back the engineer produced that shit made

30:30

that she's not gonna wreck it. I'm like Dang,

30:33

what was the name of the song? The

30:35

name of the song was Ola's do it. Okay before

30:37

that before that song I made a dumbass on

30:40

Ring my phone going berserk ring.

30:43

I need some work coming up That's

30:47

it my very first song was we on the

30:50

way, uh-huh my second song was

30:52

treads and goads

30:53

My third song was like the ring.

30:56

Yeah, it was the ring. So you literally

30:58

went in there with no money and you were able

31:00

to record it in your engineer. We just

31:02

did it for you. I was giving my boy like $50, whatever

31:05

he charged for studio shit. Okay. You

31:07

don't need all the extra cute ass studio shit. Yeah.

31:11

So you record the record. When

31:13

did you drop it? Immediately. Immediately.

31:16

Immediately. Okay. And

31:18

what happened then? Yeah. When you

31:20

dropped it? It just went dumb. Dumb,

31:23

bro. People just...

31:25

The people, bro. There's no... I put zero

31:27

marketing dollars. We put zero dollars into it.

31:29

The people, bro. That's all. People

31:32

could cheat algorithm all day today, bro. People

31:34

fuck with you. The algorithm can't fuck with it. The

31:37

algorithm gonna make

31:38

algorithm off what people doing. Fuck you,

31:40

type shit. What did... Did you get to

31:43

talk to Gucci while he was in jail when the record started

31:45

hitting? You know what I mean? Gucci's done. That's

31:48

in the past, fuck. You

31:50

know what I'm saying? It's a new... A new era.

31:53

Hell yeah, probably catching one of the kids get old. No,

31:55

but I meant like back then, like when that record started to hit

31:58

and he was in jail, he'd like. You talk

32:00

to him like hey this record. Yeah, we was

32:02

kind of beefing into yeah, we're okay at

32:04

that point Okay, well it

32:07

was all what you learn in the rock industry that

32:09

made you stronger a better person I would say you

32:11

know I lost shall our millions of things I

32:14

just learned like

32:15

the lifestyle I was looking towards as

32:17

a kid was

32:19

bullshit for me not

32:22

the lifestyle of general why I say was bullshit

32:25

because because the idea was smolin'

32:27

in a rock. I'm like, damn, that's all

32:29

you wanna be, cars, clothes, jury, fly around,

32:31

fuck those, blah, blah, blah. That shit, niggas know. It

32:33

gets boring. Hell nah. I said, you can't grow

32:35

unless you do business, A, as a man.

32:38

So every man that's just from a

32:40

park as a woman that talks about women, or

32:42

what the fuck women don't gotta don't do, nigga,

32:44

you can't talk unless you got a business.

32:47

Nigga, period, because guess what? You wouldn't give a

32:49

fuck with nobody's sake because you're a man.

32:51

See, that's the difference when people got the whole man

32:53

theology shit fucked up. Cause real

32:55

man is built like rocks. No

32:57

matter what words, no matter what anything

33:00

you say, it cannot fuck with me. Cause I'm the

33:02

strongest on earth. I'm a man.

33:04

It's nothing stronger than that. So if you think

33:07

that way, why would you even let shit? That's

33:09

how I thought in rap. So that was right for me

33:11

in rap. It just show like, look

33:13

at this is bullshit. Like I grew up

33:15

around real, I just hate

33:17

saying shit like this, like street motherfuckers.

33:19

I'll tell my, but

33:21

I'm watching niggas do TV shows that

33:23

shit right now off the people I grew up

33:25

around as a kid. And to get in rap

33:27

and see everybody coming together smoking

33:29

weed,

33:30

talking behind each other back, trying to get the same girl

33:33

and this. And I was young seeing this, so it's different.

33:36

I watched friends cross each other, rap friends

33:38

for a girl. Like

33:39

I just seen all kinds of suckers

33:42

shit. So when I say I'm rap, I say I'm coming

33:44

to another one of my niggas. That's why I was so deep.

33:46

Because I ain't wanting a rapper to be able to come over

33:48

here and feel comfortable. I wanted him to be uncomfortable.

33:51

I just wanted him to be like, like, what's up, flop? Hey, all right,

33:53

bro. You

33:54

know what I mean? If you want to be friends with me, you got to meet all my

33:56

friends. Right. So that's why I always had a

33:58

lot of, like, a lot of people. You know, I've heard that

34:00

many times about the octave as well. The industry is pretty

34:02

fake. And unless you're a real person, you won't

34:04

really see what's really happening behind the scenes. Yeah, but

34:07

but then again, I'm going to contradict myself, right?

34:10

Because that's the way I came up in rap.

34:12

See, you look at it from another point of

34:15

view. I just was paying attention

34:17

to all the fake shit. It was a lot of good shit

34:19

going on. So me watching the artist

34:21

careers right now that's blowing up, the moves

34:23

they make and they let me know like, yo, Walker, you

34:25

was feeding in a dumb shit. That

34:27

was all the devil distractions. That shit was white.

34:30

I shouldn't even give a fuck about it. And I didn't give a fuck.

34:32

That's why I jumped past all the fights and

34:34

shit. I'm sorry. Now I got way

34:37

more better. Like, you know what I'm saying? But back

34:39

then I couldn't take it. You could be like, yo, bitch, boom.

34:42

It just was that. That's just how life was back.

34:45

So rap happened. You learned a lot from

34:47

rap. And then drastically

34:48

had to change

34:50

where you went to EDM. This is what rap told

34:52

me. Rap, let me let me bring that

34:54

back. Let me really answer that. Stop dicking around. Rap

34:57

gave me the experience. I don't think nothing in my

34:59

life would ever gave me without it.

35:01

Rap show me

35:03

the art of thieves, the art of love,

35:05

the art of trust, the art of hard

35:07

work, the heart of discernment.

35:09

All that shit. That's what rap show.

35:12

And man, I've been cheating my whole. It

35:14

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The

37:43

most solid person my whole career was

37:45

my mother.

37:47

Live it is crazy. I'm saying this right.

37:49

And as it's cliche as fuck.

37:51

But

37:52

everybody stole from me, bro.

37:54

Like

37:54

everybody. And

37:57

I was such a real nigga

37:59

that

38:00

I was afraid to say people steal them

38:02

because it made me be weak.

38:03

So why people glorify me at the same

38:06

token? They come learning. So this

38:08

is why people be like, yo, this nigga walking so smart.

38:10

She, you might be right, but nigga, I was being

38:12

smart to save my own life,

38:14

to keep the show on the road. So why people

38:17

got them celebrating the show, I'm skinning

38:19

down to keep the show going. So a lot of niggas

38:21

had to get booked for shows. I had to pay the book

38:23

myself sometimes. Nigga, I was banded.

38:25

I had to, I give the credit to me and my team, not

38:27

just me,

38:28

like literally. So it's a big difference.

38:30

Like I don't begin mad when they be like,

38:33

Oh, walking this. And then somebody, you don't need to know

38:35

what I did with this shit. So, and I'm not even going to

38:37

complain, but my whole career

38:39

until recently as

38:40

a man, cause I have full control of my life,

38:43

a hundred percent control

38:44

that I ain't got to fight no more,

38:46

like, bro, that shit crazy, bro, to go to sleep with 10,

38:50

15, $20 million is still scared to be

38:52

broke. Wow.

38:53

How the fuck do you do that? How do

38:55

you go to sleep with two, $3 million in your pocket and

38:57

feel broke? Like,

38:59

bro, just right now it's 36

39:01

old man, bro.

39:02

37 year old man, bro, could go to sleep at night

39:04

and be at peace. Without

39:06

having to hold a girl, without having to watch a

39:08

movie, without having to take a melatonin

39:10

pill, without shit. Like actually,

39:13

I could go, my door's unlocked.

39:15

I don't live in the gated community, my nigga.

39:17

The mailman can knock on my front door and say, hey, walk out,

39:19

can I get some waffles? So

39:22

I'm that calm. I could go to fuck the sleep. Like

39:24

it's just, and that's what I wanted, my nigga.

39:26

Like when I rapped,

39:27

I just wanted to learn the truth. I got tired of everybody

39:30

flexing.

39:31

It ain't even work. The flexing, the reason they ain't got

39:33

a dance floor in the club.

39:35

You know what I'm saying? That flexing shit went too

39:37

far, bro. That's all it is. That's

39:39

all it is. You said earlier that people were

39:41

stealing from you and you had to basically

39:43

pay it back on your own. Who's, are we

39:46

talking like record labels? People that are close to you? Oh, definitely

39:48

don't. But everybody, man,

39:50

at the end of the day, my nigga like,

39:52

what could you do? Right? Yeah.

39:55

Who

39:55

would help me? see nobody around me successful

39:58

the right way. I never

40:00

in my life met a merging

40:03

acquisition lawyer. I never in my

40:05

life met a CPA, a business manager.

40:08

After in my life, I never had those in my family.

40:11

I just, it's just, I just didn't

40:13

know.

40:14

And I learned the hard way. Plus I- Nah,

40:17

I learned Doran because I was

40:19

hands on in the very beginning of my career. Like

40:22

credit to my mother, my mother, you gotta think I'm

40:24

her son. So she not finna do all that

40:26

extra shit she did with Gooch and all along for me. Hey,

40:29

nigga, my son, you're supposed to know this. That's her vibe

40:31

with me. So I'm like, what the fuck? So

40:34

that shit was crazy. A lot of trials and tribulations.

40:36

So what did you, did you ever, you said you didn't say anything

40:39

about it. Did you end up getting rid of those people that were stealing from you? Of

40:41

course. Okay, you just did it silently. Yeah, most

40:43

of them got kids, so

40:44

crushing they practice, they take away

40:46

from their kids. So I just pray

40:48

to God that they just, they

40:50

learn something, man. Oh, God just

40:53

take away that gift and give them another one because

40:55

they

40:55

misusing that shit. I just been

40:57

a hundred, but I always been a real nigga, right, so

41:00

for me, I don't give a fuck. I'm not, for all, I'm

41:02

not,

41:03

none of that shit. So I'm not gonna think about anybody

41:05

saying it. So for them people, one

41:07

thing I'm good at though,

41:09

one thing I'm great at, fuck good at,

41:12

I'm so good at people, goddamn, thinking I didn't

41:14

see or don't know, right? So

41:17

they don't know that you know? No, but

41:19

the way they stole from me was

41:21

my college courses. Cause

41:23

I figured out

41:25

what the fuck they did. And I figured out what

41:27

I did. So now, the college

41:29

courses. Oh God, it was like college courses

41:31

for me. Watching how people stole from me.

41:33

Learning, excuse me.

41:35

I love Ebonics by the way. High class

41:37

Ebonics is what I talk, cause that's our language. That's

41:39

something that nobody can take from us.

41:41

So I love shit like that. So when you

41:43

hear these words, you better

41:45

kick in third gear or some shit. But

41:47

when people stole from me, I got to see their

41:50

habits. And how they did it, how

41:52

they pinched. And how they got,

41:54

how was they able to do that legally and

41:57

illegally? How can they be in trouble? So,

41:59

and with. me learning all that,

42:02

I was kind of like, sorry

42:05

for them. Because I'm like, yo, they dumb as fuck.

42:08

Like

42:08

they bought some money that's actually bringing in 0 for

42:10

a quarter million dollars a weekend. And you

42:12

stealing from them? Yeah. I would be like,

42:14

yo, let me invest

42:16

three million of that for you. Like I could

42:18

build a portfolio just from knowing you.

42:20

I could build me a million dollar portfolio

42:23

just for you putting two, three credit cards on mine. So

42:25

that's how I know I wasn't with the right

42:28

people. So that's why I ain't take shit

42:30

to heart. And then I start calling people thieves,

42:33

this, that and the third. I started looking at myself

42:35

like, damn, what the fuck they seeing me to steal from

42:37

me? I got tighten up. So when I started

42:40

telling myself, I start seeing them come a million miles

42:42

coming

42:43

in every form of my life from girls

42:45

to business to family to everybody. And

42:47

I'm telling you, I'm just like a master

42:50

yoga,

42:51

like a ghetto, a master yoga, Excuse

42:53

me, I'm out of mass. Yeah,

42:56

it just made me just be cool It's

42:59

interesting cuz like I mean other people I mean they would

43:01

probably like

43:03

Corner them be like hey what the fuck or maybe even attack them

43:05

or whatever So you just saw you saw it and you just like

43:07

you know what? Yeah, but that's not a golly

43:09

thing to do I'm a street nigga. I already

43:12

know that's the street shit. I look that

43:14

shit like that is street shit So in

43:16

my brain I program like that street shit

43:18

walk He can't do that

43:20

like they expect you to be gangster for them to call

43:22

the cops and you act irate

43:24

When did you make that transition where being

43:26

like this my boy? I've been like

43:28

this my boy I'm just growing with experience and I

43:30

could do grown man moves and now I'm

43:32

out of talk cuz I experienced this I Promise

43:35

brothers go back and all these little cameras and shit Brown

43:37

been talking like this, bro We see all like the

43:39

soft music behind people conversations. I

43:42

was doing that 2013 on Instagram

43:44

I'm serious, bro. So I'm not

43:46

trying to like take credit for this shit, but this shit I

43:48

wanted to be, so I was fighting to become that.

43:51

I felt stuck, bro. Like it's different. Like a

43:53

lot of people want to be famous. I felt stuck in

43:55

fame. But what I'm

43:57

asking is, like, at what point did

43:59

you say You know what? It's no point. I grew up. So

44:01

you never ever resorted to, I

44:04

guess, violence or

44:06

attack or confronting somebody for stealing from you. If

44:09

I did, we'll never know. Okay.

44:12

Just to answer everybody's questions. So

44:15

how just someone pick their friends, you

44:17

would say, to be successful? Cause obviously you've seen

44:19

through the bad, the good, ugly, but

44:21

how

44:21

just won't pick friends to be in this circle? You would say,

44:24

um, That's

44:26

a that's a that's a scary question to

44:29

go off this blueprint. I just say,

44:31

man,

44:32

your friends will be who you are on the inside of you anyway.

44:36

So if you're a nasty, grimy, dirty person

44:38

in the inside, you're going to always get nasty,

44:40

dirty, grimy ass people on the outside,

44:43

especially

44:43

from my perspective in life.

44:45

So

44:47

I'm be real, my boy, I never I

44:49

never just fought with people like that.

44:51

Like,

44:52

I know who grimy and shit, right?

44:54

I can't hang with a n***a that kill people every day.

44:56

But goddamn, just steal and rob all

44:58

day. I

44:59

can't fuck with you, bro. You don't play basketball. You don't play

45:01

video games. Like, you

45:02

don't like cartoons, n***a? Like, what the fuck?

45:05

You a... You just a monster. Like, I

45:07

wasn't a monster. You know what I'm saying? So,

45:10

I always like... I

45:11

don't know if I'm a gangster nerd, bro. I just like nerd

45:13

shit too. Kinda me? Bro, I just

45:15

like nerd shit. I don't want credit for none of

45:18

it, bro. I don't want to be on a game. And in that

45:20

play, I like that shit actually make me feel good.

45:22

Bro, like, it's crazy. I

45:24

love that shit. Okay, so

45:26

you would say work on yourself first. It's when you're a better

45:28

person. Oh, you have to You by the way, y'all

45:30

folks better work on y'all. So y'all need better

45:32

stop blaming people You better look in the mirror my boy. That's

45:35

my for real for real Like that's how you're gonna get

45:37

to where you got to get I swear to God all that hey

45:39

man Think good strategize

45:42

all that bullshit me better look at yourself say

45:44

I'm wrong I fucked up like

45:46

you better you better do it quick to Accountability.

45:49

You don't want to be no old ass man and then taking

45:51

accountability, man, that shit could probably be devastating.

45:54

Being old as fuck and then forgiving yourself.

45:56

Oh no, do it right now. now.

45:59

now. That's good So

46:02

at what point did you say you know what man? I'm I'm

46:05

gonna turn into crazy jewelry

46:07

the flex in the cars My

46:09

friends kept dying My

46:11

friends died and damn they all my chains

46:14

never was robbed for me. Well,

46:15

so it's just like I

46:19

Don't know man. I was just I Just

46:22

I want to just start over. I

46:24

Mean I got all that shit the flex on nigga

46:26

the show that we get money

46:28

So your friends were attacked for wearing your jewelry.

46:31

I don't know. That was just their lifestyle.

46:34

I just, that shit just fucked with me, my boy.

46:37

I've been shot for a chain. Like, man, this shit is

46:39

crazy. Like, who are you, Walker?

46:42

I feel like I was losing myself. I was hiding

46:44

in items. I feel like items made me

46:46

become

46:48

popular. You know what I'm saying? I want

46:50

to be popular for me. Not for what

46:52

I wear, not for what I drive. So I stopped

46:54

giving a fuck about clothes. That's

46:56

why I stopped giving a fuck about getting shaved. I stopped

46:58

giving a fuck. I'm like, if I'm walk

47:00

a flock, all right, let me see if I'm walk

47:02

a flock without all this shit. Without an

47:05

album, without a single.

47:06

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47:09

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47:11

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I said, if I could do this in 10 years,

49:02

I wanted to learn business, bro. I just had

49:04

to learn that shit before I'm 40.

49:06

I'm like, bro, I'ma work hard as fuck

49:08

until I'm gold in this ball.

49:11

It's a rose, where it's look better than a 52 year old

49:13

man than a 25 year old man. Who

49:15

looked better at 52 year old player?

49:18

He ain't a rose, Royce, man. Like that shit just look

49:20

way better. I just was that kind of person.

49:22

Ocho Cinco did an interview recently.

49:24

He brought up, for example, saving most

49:27

of his money and not buying designer, buying

49:29

the chain and stuff like that because his brand name is Ultra Cinco.

49:31

So if you meet him,

49:33

he's a brand, not what he wears. That's a very good point

49:35

that he brought up. He extreme. He

49:38

like a vegan that goddamn throw paint

49:40

on a main coat. Like that shit crazy. I'm

49:43

not that extreme. I'm gonna put that shit on. Like I don't

49:45

know the name of nothing, but if I like it, I'm gonna get it.

49:48

I just like, I'm not that weird ass,

49:50

like not calling bro with. I'm not

49:52

that weird ass natural guy. Ooh,

49:55

brother. Like all that's when all

49:57

them patterned ass clothes. I'm gonna get no.

50:00

I'm still gonna put that shit on do what I want But

50:02

I you got to elevate sometimes you got

50:04

to stop to evolve to see how far

50:06

you came and it was one of those moments Brother

50:09

so that's your shit is just one of those moments like

50:11

I take that motherfucking jury off. I had

50:13

to like

50:14

I just had What'd you do it all of it? Did you do

50:16

sell it back? Do you still have it you give it away

50:18

a shinner safe? Send a safe. Okay,

50:20

so you still have you just don't wear it no more. I'm never win

50:23

it now My life for living is like a trophy

50:25

now. So if I'm just gonna redo it

50:27

I'll never my life won't put that shit on Wow.

50:30

I'm good. Then I'm then I know I'm like what energy

50:32

holds

50:33

Like gold and copper hold the most

50:35

energy out of all metals Imagine

50:37

how much fucking negative energy them Jerry

50:39

got him. I was on

50:41

all kind of pills and

50:43

Leaning shit sweating in that year. I'm good.

50:45

I don't need this When'd

50:48

you give up the lean and all the other stuff?

50:50

I probably

50:51

said when I was like 26 27 stop It

50:54

is like walking you about you about you moms will say

50:57

you like a type two a type one diabetic Wow,

50:59

it's like so we about to start giving you a cool new

51:01

shot some blood thinning pills Hell no, so I was taking

51:04

it there's there's gearing me up for it.

51:06

I'm like damn brownie get hard Nice

51:13

ain't no pause and I ain't say nothing to anybody

51:15

but it will fuck it with me bro Cuz

51:18

when they say she like they broke I can just

51:20

think about my daddy But I see my daddy like

51:21

damn man, it is deaf bad like it's skinny

51:24

like in the bed So I keep kept thinking

51:26

about shit like that and it just it's

51:28

not triggering me going to hell

51:30

And I just went right into it like

51:32

next thing, you know, I have to take the pills no more What

51:35

are some steps you took to improve your health?

51:37

I just let go to the sugar.

51:39

I cold turkey candy

51:41

Okay, I probably eat candy

51:43

Six five times a year, okay. I

51:47

just want a hell of natural. I put more nutritious

51:49

stuff in my body Okay, it wasn't like no perfect

51:51

regimen. That's what Sebi was out and shit

51:53

like I just was following it

51:55

And that's the off finding out there's no such thing as a disease

51:57

your body at a dis-ease state I

52:00

start finding out it's a fungus first. I said, what

52:02

do a fungus need first? I just stopped

52:05

doing that. And just like,

52:06

I just learned this shit. The information is

52:08

right there. And there's nobody that could heal

52:11

you. There's no

52:11

secret pill, no secret

52:14

tonics. It's you taking

52:16

the tonic. It's you taking the pills. You

52:18

believing in it.

52:19

Shout out to Yaki Awakened. He's the littest

52:21

right now on holistic medicine. Yaki,

52:25

little brother is the fucking goat. start

52:28

going to the gym too and start like, I barely

52:30

go to the gym. Barely. Okay. I just run.

52:33

I don't want to be on. I'm big as fuck,

52:35

bro. So if I come out this bitch, like I

52:37

ain't gonna be a white my ass, but it's going to be crazy.

52:39

Yeah. Walk us super tall, man. Yeah. So you,

52:41

so you, uh, so you run, but you, uh,

52:43

you eat fairly healthy now. Drink a lot of wine. I

52:46

don't run today. You don't run no more. I got

52:48

there. I just had an outfit, right? I

52:54

put the pants on like, God damn, if

52:56

I can't eat, come

52:58

on, but if

53:00

you can't,

53:01

I can stop feeling big, but

53:03

I like it though, man. But I got, I'm out to get it in. I'm

53:05

about to do a 90 to

53:06

a one 25th day.

53:09

I want to be on front of men's health magazine.

53:11

Okay. That's a grown man goal. I have, I

53:13

want to be in front of men's health magazine trim.

53:15

So

53:16

I'm trying to have a little boxer

53:18

line,

53:19

get my grown on my boy.

53:21

How'd you how'd you get over because I'm

53:23

sure there's a lot of people watching right now. We got almost 8,000 people

53:25

in here How'd you get over the drug

53:27

use the drug use? Yeah, I love

53:29

my life. Yeah, okay snow secret

53:32

It's people want to get these magical.

53:35

I

53:36

Literally love my life, bro. I

53:38

love God

53:39

by his there's nothing I

53:42

Don't know dog. I just I

53:44

don't know. I just ain't no weekend nigga. I can't there's

53:46

no way a fucker a plant could make me

53:49

be like, assumed to die, you know,

53:52

dispose of my body and shit like, I don't

53:55

know, breast shit just corny to me. It's

53:57

like blaming people all day. Like,

54:00

oh, I don't know. I just can't. I

54:02

don't know my boy. I really just can't be that

54:04

guy. I just, hell no.

54:07

A drink and then lean. That's a

54:09

bad cavity. My shit fucked the hell.

54:12

I see heroin. Like I'm a heroin

54:14

addict, bro. Like, what the fuck? I'm a fresh ass

54:16

junkie.

54:17

In real life. I seen myself selling whatever

54:20

I had to sell to turn around and go spend

54:22

money with another nigga to buy drugs. We all drug

54:24

addicts. I'm just the best looking drug

54:26

addict. Like, bro, hell no. I had to get rid of

54:28

that.

54:29

Then I had Charlie. Charlie was a big, my daughter

54:31

was like a huge, huge

54:34

factor inside of me. Changing health, life,

54:37

every, my daughter, she's the first

54:39

person that made me feel like literally famous.

54:42

She's the first person that literally made me feel

54:44

like a superhero.

54:45

She's the first person that made me feel literally

54:48

like a somebody like, yo, I need

54:50

you to live so I can live kind of shit. Like

54:53

literally she's the first human on earth to make me feel

54:55

like it.

54:56

So that right there was that was like the fucking

54:58

nail and the whole call. That was the transition.

55:00

When you had your daughter, that's how that might have been.

55:02

And that and that. So giving up the lien,

55:05

giving up the jewelry, the drugs. And

55:07

they've given it up just not

55:10

even give it up. Just evolve. OK, like

55:12

you ain't got to got to change nothing. Evolve

55:15

like it happened.

55:16

You can't change something that happened. Like people get

55:19

the words, miss, can screw, right? They start fucking

55:21

up the definition. You could never change that

55:23

already happened. You can evolve from it. And

55:25

I just wanted to evolve. So what I started doing

55:27

was I started learning the habits. So

55:30

I started asking my wife at the time, actually,

55:32

I was just like walking. Yeah. You were saying this, this,

55:34

you did this. They're like, what the fuck you

55:36

stay with me? So just like deep

55:38

shit. So I just start seeing my, you know

55:40

what I'm saying? Yeah. I should tell people,

55:42

Hey, here we go. Do that. Yeah. We're going to do that. And I want

55:44

to do it, but I don't remember it. I was high.

55:46

Oh, I wake up. I got 50,000 20. That

55:49

way in my pocket, I wake up. I got $200. I'm

55:51

like, wow, this shit was lit. Like

55:54

that's bad. Yeah, I

55:56

don't even know where the money went It's

56:00

crazy. Yeah. So you made a change, but

56:02

it better. I evolved.

56:05

I wanted it for my daughters, man. I did it for the people watching

56:07

me. Like I never did it for the industry. I never

56:09

had a co-sign in my life, but my mother, uh,

56:13

I just, it's fans. My boy, like I'm only

56:15

here because of fans. I don't pay for nothing

56:18

in marketing. People do it.

56:20

Like people got me right here. So

56:22

I can't do them, but fuck with people. Even when people

56:24

are walking girl walking, don't say this. So you should

56:26

never do this. I'm like,

56:28

I fuck with the people though. Y'all niggas never put me

56:30

here. Don't tell me what the fuck to say

56:32

You

56:32

just own a platform we talking out of we

56:34

people like me stop talking you have no money

56:36

Shut the fuck up. Let me talk cut everybody

56:38

else off not me

56:40

So that's that's what I start learning people fuck

56:42

with you, bro You

56:43

have to tap in a people and don't

56:45

don't let don't let 10 people Five

56:47

people are 30 people make you say fuck

56:49

the people that made you who you was right

56:52

and a lot of people in these Positions we in

56:54

forget that part That's

56:55

back. So yeah Yeah,

56:58

I get some of these chats and the guys come on over to YouTube

57:00

We're gonna kill the Twitter twitch and Facebook stream.

57:03

So come on over to YouTube right now See I could

57:05

continue getting the sauce Chris. Can we kill him? Yeah,

57:08

guys come on over to YouTube or rumble either

57:10

or we're gonna be live on rumble and on YouTube. So

57:13

Come on over right now Okay,

57:17

so we got here the grim reaper remember

57:19

don't get embarrassed like Tom Don't get stood up like

57:21

dick and don't waste your life like Harry free to taste.

57:24

Absolutely. Shout out to you, man That's from the book. Go

57:26

get it guys. Michael me stroke one dollar super sticker.

57:28

Thank you May me Chaka

57:30

goes I go hard in the motherfucking paint brick squad

57:34

Omar gray goes peace bros brick squad

57:37

bow bow Okay And then we got Nathan goes

57:39

my buddy sub deleted over a 304 and I wish we

57:41

had this content He had put me on

57:44

to no hands by Waka when we were younger Wow

57:47

Yeah, hey, that record was

57:49

went crazy man. Uh, tell

57:52

us about that What was it like filming that and that

57:54

record in general? That record really

57:55

created our lifestyle in that era.

57:57

Yeah.

57:57

Man that shit was fine bro.

58:00

That

58:00

whole video, it was a big ass party.

58:02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the top floor. Yeah. Yeah,

58:05

that shit was lit. It was just a party. Yeah.

58:08

To me, that'd be the best video shoots. Is that when

58:10

you, because that song had a lot of mainstream

58:13

success. I mean, to this day, it still gets played in the club

58:15

a lot. It still plays today. It still plays to this day. Booby

58:17

trap. Yeah. Like, you know what

58:19

I mean? Live. What

58:22

was it like, I guess on the tail, that like torn

58:24

after and everything else, would you say that's when you

58:26

like really

58:27

broke into I was in there,

58:30

bro. Yeah, you know, I'm telling you,

58:33

I'm crazy, bro. My first CD

58:35

dropped

58:36

four months later. I was on a road four, five days

58:38

out the week till today.

58:40

Like, I don't know.

58:42

It took me four months to get high. Probably

58:44

before that, like the even in the first

58:46

month, my tape came out, doing features and shit and

58:49

walk through.

58:50

So I never like.

58:52

But no hands is like,

58:54

you know, shut them up. Wale

58:56

Roscoe. Yeah. That's

58:59

it, right? That's it. Yeah. Yeah. No,

59:01

that I mean, to this day, they still play that record,

59:04

man. I just felt like it was just

59:06

a good combination. Yeah, it was good shot

59:08

to Greg Street. It wasn't for Greg Street. I

59:10

don't even think no hands be. Really? Wow.

59:12

It was for DJ Greg Street

59:15

for just grabbing the record and dropping it. Well,

59:18

he's like, this shit is a fucking hit. I'm taking it. Fuck

59:20

that. And left the studio. That's when Gooch just

59:22

came home. He's like, I'm out this to hit. Fuck

59:24

everything. And then I went on a road. I

59:27

guess he was talking to DJ Love DeNero from Queens

59:30

and Love was like, I'm playing this thing at set. And I

59:32

say, Oh, love, I swear to my mother, my nigga.

59:35

You know, that word to mother shit poppin. I like, yo, look,

59:38

you play that shit, my nigga, we might fight.

59:41

Hey, fucking excuse my language. And by the time

59:43

it fucking gas on, bro, don't play that shit.

59:46

And I want some gangster shit, bro. The fuck I look like saying it

59:48

on stage. So he played the shit

59:51

through the fucking water bottle. As

59:54

I turned back around, the whole crowd going

59:56

crazy. But

59:57

we played that shit three times, back to

59:59

back. I said, oh, this shit.

1:00:00

the hit because I never had a girl record.

1:00:02

I only had gangster shit. Yeah. All my

1:00:04

fans was girls at the time. Just

1:00:06

every show would be always girls. So once

1:00:08

I played No Hands, I'm like, oh, this shit. I

1:00:11

did fucking learn how to do this. But I

1:00:14

couldn't rap about girls because I never went on a date.

1:00:16

I never had a girlfriend. So I never

1:00:18

knew but hang with freaks at the time.

1:00:21

I don't know. I just wasn't, I had no game.

1:00:23

Yeah. So I never knew what to rap but shake that

1:00:25

head, bitch, I'm trying to fuck this on. You

1:00:28

don't know, but you know, got no jazz.

1:00:30

Right.

1:00:31

What was it at that point when that record

1:00:33

hit? Did you know, like, yeah, I fucking made it.

1:00:36

Oh, bro. When no, yeah.

1:00:38

Yeah. Oh,

1:00:40

my trying to care, but I was already loaded. Yeah,

1:00:43

you already have money at that point. Like fuck the money. Like

1:00:45

I was like, fucking 10,

1:00:48

well, seven mixtapes

1:00:50

in. Yeah. My partner, my brother is

1:00:52

a rabbit going crazy about it. The album

1:00:54

just made me stand up next to

1:00:57

a list artist. At the time they was all

1:00:59

bending that shit. Like, oh, that music is wack. That

1:01:01

sound is wack. Who won 808s

1:01:03

and kicks and hi-hats talking about gang

1:01:05

violence and this, that and the third.

1:01:08

I'm like, yo, nobody ever did shit like this, walker. I'm

1:01:10

like, yo, calm the fuck down.

1:01:12

I was just fighting for it.

1:01:14

You know, that next generation came, could they have listened

1:01:16

to that and killed it? And that's when like the

1:01:19

next generation was like, Chief Keef's. So

1:01:21

they listened to my shit. So it was basically like,

1:01:24

shit, watch the next generation. I knew they were

1:01:26

going to have problems with them. I only rap for

1:01:28

the younger generation in mind.

1:01:30

I wasn't rapping out of the older generation.

1:01:32

I'm like, y'all niggas grew up off boom, back. I

1:01:35

can't compete with that. I can't even rap. Yeah. Fuck

1:01:37

that. They out there.

1:01:38

Fair enough. Uh, wonder

1:01:41

wonders goes Waka Flaga say brick squad. Stick

1:01:43

them in. All right. Dr. B84. B84.

1:01:52

You got it. Dr. B84. He got you with Michael Mestro.

1:01:54

Thank you. shout out to Waka Sheesh. Okay, Bradley

1:01:56

goes, we've always said that

1:01:59

flakaville is

1:02:00

freaking gospel and karma and lurkin still

1:02:02

my favorite Waka Flocka songs ever. Okay.

1:02:04

Uh, frozen Gilly goes thoughts

1:02:06

on using life insurance for being your own bank and getting

1:02:09

a IUL index universal life policy.

1:02:11

That's a good strategy for wealth creation

1:02:13

as well.

1:02:14

Depending on what you're doing in your life, that would make

1:02:17

you smart. Exactly. He knows the game. I

1:02:19

like that. Um, and he goes,

1:02:22

Flocka, you still

1:02:24

going to try and be president? I think the country needs you,

1:02:26

bro. It's time for a Waka 20, 24 make America lit again. Okay.

1:02:32

A Jose goes clay Co in the house. I reversed

1:02:35

the slave route, went from up North to

1:02:37

down South. All right. Cool.

1:02:38

Uh, Michael Meese stroke, number one podcast in universe.

1:02:41

Absolutely. Facts. Dudley. The narrow goes salutes

1:02:43

a fresh and fit gang salutes LeBron Flocka.

1:02:45

James keep leading from the front fellows. All right. Cool. Jigsaw

1:02:48

goes shout out to Bamiyan

1:02:50

kabob.

1:02:51

I think this is, Oh, Bamiyan kabob.

1:02:54

You're right. Squaw Bar Meeons is an

1:02:56

Afghan based restaurant. It's a family

1:02:58

owned restaurant. I'm part of that family as well.

1:03:01

It's one of the top two, if not the number

1:03:03

one restaurant in Canada. They

1:03:06

got over 15 locations and

1:03:08

we come into America. Shout to Bar Meeons, my

1:03:10

whole Afghan family. Bar Meeons. Bum, bum, bum, bum,

1:03:12

bum, bum. Wow. Okay. There you go.

1:03:14

Good food. Manjot Singh,

1:03:17

Singh Torgo is best rap line of all time. Fuck

1:03:19

Five-O. I make my own rules. Shit

1:03:21

my Dragon Balls.

1:03:23

Bitch, call me Goku. I'll suck my

1:03:25

dragon balls bitch call me Goku also Naruto

1:03:27

or DBZ This

1:03:31

liquor got the best that we own way different

1:03:34

and the house and the house Nesk on see

1:03:36

Waka at dreamville fest in Raleigh, North

1:03:38

Carolina, let's go cool

1:03:40

NL forever guild

1:03:42

Waka when you made love them good gun

1:03:45

sounds like I changed my life and started

1:03:47

going to church I knew the streets wasn't it for me

1:03:50

I R.S. Waka flop.

1:03:52

I love the music hard to paint and no hands remain on my

1:03:54

gym playlist, but respectfully I'm gonna need that back

1:03:57

tacks my guy Yo,

1:04:00

yo, yo, shout out to the high risk. I just worked

1:04:02

out a payment plan. That shit

1:04:04

real. That's shit real. Yo, get a little

1:04:06

player, bro. Oh. All right.

1:04:09

I can't wait to pay them. Why wouldn't you want to not pay them?

1:04:11

True. They got us lit. True.

1:04:14

Dom, $5. Joaquin is the only celebrity I know that

1:04:16

walks in Chicago with no problems, OK? I

1:04:19

love Chicago. I'm sorry to say this, but Chicago

1:04:21

to me, I know it's hardcore.

1:04:23

Bro, that shit home, bro.

1:04:25

Bro, I feel that

1:04:27

I really feel like that shit playing out.

1:04:29

Love is in Chicago,

1:04:31

bro. It's leaving my top three cities in America

1:04:34

to party it

1:04:35

You know, I've heard if not top two, you

1:04:37

know, Chicago. That's a whole no, that's my

1:04:39

shit Chicago and what are the other two? Atlanta

1:04:43

you guys say Miami Scott. No Arizona

1:04:46

in general For me right

1:04:48

now. I like Texas Atlanta

1:04:51

don't count that's home. That's a guarantee. I

1:04:53

say Texas Arizona and Chicago. Okay.

1:04:56

Okay. All

1:04:56

right Any cities in Texas

1:04:58

because you got Dallas you got no taxes anywhere

1:05:01

Texas. Okay, you think I'm from them off Chris 20

1:05:05

bucks used to live down the street from waka flaka in

1:05:07

Georgia. He's a good man. Happy you found your

1:05:09

way to fresher fit There you go. Okay

1:05:12

Machaka and then you know from this point for guys who's got

1:05:14

almost eight thousand in here 20 20 up

1:05:17

iris you better be using my tax money for good uses

1:05:19

and not super chat and that's from Machacha. Okay Be

1:05:22

dirty dollars says waka what the fuck going

1:05:25

on with? L last LA

1:05:27

for LA for SS bros

1:05:29

a backstabber and a lame I'm happy you separated from

1:05:31

him continue to shine again in the paper stay

1:05:34

at Waka

1:05:35

So artists I had a sign

1:05:37

out saying Lewis we just Fuck

1:05:40

man, that little nigger was nice. He's just the streets

1:05:43

Couldn't leave man. I'm fuck.

1:05:45

I just chalked up as a loss damn fair

1:05:48

enough Jay five bucks bucks

1:05:50

walk Do you remember turning up with the

1:05:52

sign language lady a couple years ago at your show

1:05:54

that video still goes about to this day? a real one. Yo,

1:05:57

shout out to Miss Kat and we definitely have a

1:05:59

movie.

1:06:00

Coming out it'll be on sundance. We bring this

1:06:02

to the film festival for the deaf community.

1:06:04

Her name is cat And I love the deaf community shout out to

1:06:06

all of us

1:06:07

All right

1:06:08

Fishbowl family 20

1:06:11

got your book on amazon. Just finished reading

1:06:13

Uh been great watching you influence the world for

1:06:15

the greater good keep going hard in the motherfucking

1:06:18

paint Keep building up the men stay

1:06:20

focused kings. All right

1:06:21

And then cori says yo walk a long

1:06:23

hair. She don't care when she walks she

1:06:25

gets stares. Okay, cori man of god Hey,

1:06:28

fresh go ahead and spit some bars from your viral

1:06:30

hit high-value man bow bow bow was good.

1:06:33

All right, man I made a song right bro, but

1:06:35

like they don't like it. I'm about to ask you do you got

1:06:37

a record?

1:06:38

I do but you want to hear it after the show Okay

1:06:47

G sabo sauce guy. I miss the waka

1:06:49

flaka Lex Luger era Shout out to y'all though, Lex

1:06:51

Luger old videos put me on to the Florida studio

1:06:54

legend trap a holics S.T.O.

1:06:56

studio. Cool. Demon time. Oh,

1:06:58

for the studio. Keep my bleep

1:07:00

heart and keep me smoking. You'll

1:07:02

you'll get bills free. Shoddy. No,

1:07:04

joking. That bar inspired me to turn

1:07:06

into my demon time with the ladies. All right.

1:07:09

Go, King. I always donate five bucks.

1:07:11

But today I'm donating 10 for bringing a real G

1:07:13

on the show. Waka been always trying to put people on

1:07:16

game. W host guests and chat.

1:07:18

OK, gotcha, man. Leon. Fuck this industry.

1:07:20

Big dog classics. Shout out to Waka. All

1:07:22

right. and then Karen, yo,

1:07:25

walka, let me get a chain if you ain't gonna wear it. You

1:07:28

got it. Shout out to Waka, Deb and

1:07:30

Bimmy, All Legends, Big W. Cool. And

1:07:33

then

1:07:34

we go here, Chris, or these came in from

1:07:36

before.

1:07:37

Four. Okay. Flocka Velli

1:07:39

is a vinyl worthy album.

1:07:41

Fair. And then Ayo Zago,

1:07:43

stop playing Flocka. He been hot before. No hands.

1:07:46

He was doing dubstep by 2010. Yo, tell us about Slim Duncan.

1:07:48

Oh, God, man. I missed him.

1:07:51

And then Mission Dump. Scott Waka

1:07:54

have you ever since shorty bus

1:07:56

shorty? So much on every other

1:07:58

I love showbiz. It

1:08:01

was a cartoon from. Oh, it was a cartoon.

1:08:03

Okay. What

1:08:05

made you get into the EDM? Because you did you did

1:08:07

transition to EDM for a little bit. Oh my god. I like

1:08:10

the new fans man. I say that.

1:08:12

You know, like on my first record, it was like an EDM

1:08:15

kind of record on Flocka Valley. All

1:08:17

through my career. I think it

1:08:19

was time for me to evolve in my career

1:08:21

at the time, but the label didn't want me to. They

1:08:24

wanted me to stay with this It's hardcore gangster

1:08:26

shit, but

1:08:27

I'm like, my nigga, I did 30 CDs. Like

1:08:30

I'm sorry. I only like

1:08:31

two of them or one of them. And the label

1:08:34

is being sneaky. They just let me drop 30 fucking

1:08:36

tapes. Cause it was in my deal at the time.

1:08:38

Really I think should've kept dropping it. So

1:08:40

I felt like I was at a point in my career was about

1:08:42

my friends, fans, and family.

1:08:44

So I was, I was transitioned

1:08:46

into, uh, international music. Yeah.

1:08:49

So to me, I want to move on electronic

1:08:51

stand base because I actually really learned it from

1:08:55

go-go music in DC and

1:08:57

people in Chicago playing a little dubstep. That's

1:08:59

what dubstep originally from EDM is from

1:09:01

Chicago by the way. But when

1:09:03

you start learning, I'm like, God damn, this the grown

1:09:06

folk music. Cause now I had the wretched

1:09:08

and music like the killer music. My shit

1:09:10

couldn't go on greenhouse back then. And

1:09:12

story and South Beach is fighting.

1:09:14

So I'm like, fuck, if I could get on that

1:09:16

international level, man, I was doing

1:09:19

shows. I used to see Lil Jon and Yang Yang twins.

1:09:21

Yeah, go to Ultra and shit.

1:09:23

I'm about to do that. So I bought that shit, Todd's

1:09:25

Generation. I'm like, let me do it. OK. I

1:09:27

feel like you made it cool to go to that stuff

1:09:29

from guys in the right ministry. Yeah, they thought it was corny.

1:09:32

Exactly. They couldn't say nothing to me though. How the fuck you

1:09:34

gonna say it? I'm corny? You gangsta. No, I ain't

1:09:36

that. What you gonna say? You can't say that. It's

1:09:39

fun though. It's

1:09:40

fun. Are you doing Ultra

1:09:42

this year? Yeah,

1:09:44

it's like next week. Yeah. I

1:09:46

don't deserve to do like Ultra

1:09:48

and Coachella yet. I put out some new

1:09:50

shit. I did not deserve that. I think it's for these

1:09:52

young guys, but I honestly think that

1:09:54

that your

1:09:54

artist should take it more serious.

1:09:56

I think in these festivals, should

1:09:59

never bring their friends.

1:10:00

I think in my opinion,

1:10:02

this is game for y'all don't never say

1:10:04

I never get here. He is that's already on Game

1:10:07

to stay on

1:10:08

y'all should not bring no friends

1:10:10

Y'all should invest a lot of money into

1:10:12

your state set and why do I

1:10:14

say this? Cuz this is the time that I get more

1:10:16

eyes Probably I ever had in your career

1:10:19

to stage new music or if you

1:10:21

are artists that never tore This is your opportunity

1:10:23

right here to show touring companies or

1:10:25

booking agents that you're a tour you

1:10:27

tore worthy Meaning that you could put on a fucking

1:10:30

set. Don't smoke before

1:10:32

the set. Don't drink before the set. Don't

1:10:34

pop nothing before the set because your

1:10:36

vocal tone is live and people hear you. So

1:10:39

you want motherfuckers to get the real you.

1:10:41

And I just think artists should just tie

1:10:43

deep into that. I did that, that should help

1:10:46

me out my whole career.

1:10:47

Like it took me to levels that like

1:10:49

a TV can never film. And

1:10:52

it's funny, those clips of you going to

1:10:54

those festivals, right? Go viral. And it's like,

1:10:56

walkers at these festivals? That's crazy. Let's

1:10:58

say for example, you use it, they don't love it. Those clips make

1:11:00

it go viral again. So you're right.

1:11:03

And I was doing like, Warped Tour. Like, a lot of

1:11:05

rappers wouldn't even make it in Warped Tour.

1:11:07

Damn. Hell, no, I doubt it. That's

1:11:10

like when Sheenga and Kelly got his shit from. Legend.

1:11:13

That's fire. I shot the little brothers.

1:11:15

So I just learned something there. I didn't know that as

1:11:18

an artist, you're responsible for

1:11:20

the set

1:11:21

on that show. Nah, you're not. You're getting

1:11:23

your own dancers or getting the background. Of course you are.

1:11:26

You want to add that to your set. They call you like,

1:11:28

hey, what's your state? So you got

1:11:30

to pay for it, not them.

1:11:31

No, I guess they they whatever.

1:11:33

How do you work your shit? Every artist is different.

1:11:36

OK, so

1:11:37

but I feel like maybe like why not spending

1:11:39

your money? Like, yeah, this is like a new record you're

1:11:41

about to drop. They can see if you could drop

1:11:43

firecrackers in this ball. Yes. I'm like,

1:11:46

make that shit big like and plus

1:11:48

you give it back to your fans. I

1:11:50

think that should be a fucking money grab. OK,

1:11:52

it's kind of it's like a fan appreciation.

1:11:55

Like, thank you all, brother. celebrate with this

1:11:57

shit and people I'm telling you people

1:11:59

love you

1:12:00

I don't

1:12:02

know that. Very well at sets. Swaley

1:12:04

and Jimmy. Oh yeah definitely. Very

1:12:07

well. And

1:12:09

then last one's here right? Yeah, Galermo

1:12:11

goes, Waka have you ever read that one?

1:12:16

Juan De Niro, 20 appreciate that. And

1:12:18

then I am SuperSticker 20

1:12:20

appreciate that. So

1:12:23

you talk a lot now about putting the jewelry

1:12:26

home, the fancy cars, everything else. everything

1:12:28

else. I'm putting Jerry on. I got you. Yeah. I

1:12:30

just don't be wearing that shit on.

1:12:33

I'm

1:12:33

just acting my age, bro. Yeah. That's

1:12:35

it. People are just niggas so woke in transition.

1:12:37

I'm acting my age. Like, I

1:12:39

can see the act of age. So you're more into

1:12:42

investing and starting. But I'm into

1:12:44

rap too, bro. I'm into going to parties. I just party

1:12:46

three, four nights straight. You

1:12:48

see what I'm saying, bro? I go do shows, do three shows

1:12:50

a day. Like I'm still that person. I'm

1:12:52

just, that's not a focus.

1:12:54

My focus is like business,

1:12:56

like, that's what I should be talking about. Can you tell us about that

1:12:59

a little bit? Yeah, just for me and who I

1:13:01

am in life, right? Yeah.

1:13:03

I could

1:13:06

just do anything I want to do.

1:13:08

If I want to start a mic company, I could know how

1:13:10

to do it. I want to start a desk company. If I want to

1:13:12

do real estate, I know how to do it. If I want to start

1:13:14

milk, I know how to do it. I go buy a farm,

1:13:17

farm, raise my shit, market

1:13:19

it, brand it, blah, blah, blah. Next thing you know, I'm getting distribution

1:13:22

and everybody in the world is drinking my milk now. So

1:13:25

it's just like, I know how to be a business

1:13:27

guy.

1:13:28

If you don't mind sharing, what are you investing

1:13:30

in right now? Real

1:13:35

estate. Yeah. Now, what I'm

1:13:37

banking on is something. I'm

1:13:41

not investing in nothing. I'm

1:13:43

banking on something. I

1:13:46

just say get with the block and

1:13:48

hollow chain.

1:13:49

Find out what hollow chain is, find out what blockchain

1:13:51

is. That's what my investment is at. OK.

1:13:54

All right. Crypto. All right.

1:13:56

Are you a real estate to or? Um,

1:13:59

yeah. but from a different level.

1:14:01

Okay. From a whole different perspective. Commercial,

1:14:03

residential. I'm gonna

1:14:05

go past that level.

1:14:07

Past that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay.

1:14:11

Keeping it private. I understand. That's

1:14:13

fine. And then last thing for me. Only because

1:14:15

I'm not in nobody's lane.

1:14:16

It's like me going to a neighborhood creating

1:14:19

a pizzeria

1:14:21

instead of partnering with the mom and pop pizzeria

1:14:24

to help that franchise.

1:14:26

That's the mindset I'm at today. Okay.

1:14:29

So you partner with other people you don't want to. You're

1:14:31

kind of like an angel investor.

1:14:33

Yeah. OK. Where you put money behind things,

1:14:35

but you don't necessarily disclose.

1:14:38

Yeah. All right. Fair enough. Anything

1:14:41

else, Chris? Yeah. OK. And then Lord Enzo

1:14:43

goes here. Sheen Boogie for

1:14:46

president. Fair enough. And then last

1:14:48

thing for me, brother, what is up

1:14:50

for Wakanaka next? What's the next evolution

1:14:53

you would say for you? And we'll close out there. Kids.

1:14:58

and me selling this company for multi millions.

1:15:01

Shout

1:15:01

out to a new company I just joined to.

1:15:04

I'm part of this company, it's called Slide.

1:15:07

It's like on social media and party

1:15:09

meets one. One thing I always had

1:15:11

a hard time with is Slide

1:15:13

is spelled S-L-Y-P-E,

1:15:16

oh excuse me, S-L-Y-D-E, excuse

1:15:18

me. Think

1:15:19

about all this shit. And why

1:15:22

I love Slide because it's

1:15:24

just like when I hit the cities I wanna know what's popping. So

1:15:28

to me that shit about to be a bubble. It

1:15:30

just helped my life out way better. So

1:15:32

slide is dope. Slide is from a

1:15:34

young

1:15:36

little brother from Russia. He's just smart as

1:15:38

fuck. When he was younger, I just believed that I'm like, bro,

1:15:40

you will be smart as fuck. How do you go fuck

1:15:42

with you? Don't worry. I don't want nothing. I do some hundreds

1:15:44

of kids, by the way. And they always

1:15:46

pop. So I just like, yo, your idea is beautiful,

1:15:48

bro, and as late as fuck. And then for once,

1:15:51

if I'll call you, I'm like, bro, where you at? He's like,

1:15:53

I'm in club 24. I'm like, fuck, pull it

1:15:55

up.

1:15:56

I can't wait for the people that are now looking to the moment

1:15:59

and two three. thousand people in there like, yo, this shit

1:16:01

lit. I call you, like, yo, this shit bustin'.

1:16:03

I look in there and I'm thrummin' to be like,

1:16:06

no, there's a lot of girls in there, like, or people

1:16:08

in my contacts, I can see what they party in that. You

1:16:11

know what's funny? You text your friend like, yo bro, where

1:16:13

you at? Oh, I'm at Club Live. That

1:16:15

shit lit.

1:16:16

Yeah, bro, lit. But on slide though, slide

1:16:18

will show you the whole shit. And inside of the slide, I can

1:16:20

text people, so people in the club, I can text

1:16:23

you FaceTime, you shit like that. So it's

1:16:25

an own world, it's a party world. That's dope. I love

1:16:27

it. That's dope.

1:16:29

And then guys, you can find Walker on his YouTube as well.

1:16:31

Yeah, all his links are below.

1:16:32

And I'm gonna dump them. Sorry, I'm about

1:16:34

to refresh my YouTube in 30 days. Everything

1:16:37

about all my profiles, excuse me, 45 days. Everything

1:16:41

about all my profiles is gonna be changed, updated,

1:16:43

I'm about to start just, I'm about to get

1:16:46

on YouTube, bro. I'm about to just start like,

1:16:48

fucking around. But not

1:16:50

on no podcast, because I like these podcasts.

1:16:53

I ain't gonna ever try to get in y'all lane. Nah,

1:16:56

we appreciate it bro, appreciate it. I

1:16:58

guess last word for the people

1:16:59

anything last thing was it to the audience

1:17:02

before we end this. Where's the

1:17:04

wisdom? Where's the world? Fuck

1:17:07

yeah. No, it's just my, man, just shit.

1:17:10

Fuck. It's just live life, man. Experience

1:17:12

man. This all this shit is, it is an experience.

1:17:15

If you're not experiencing, you're not living. Period.

1:17:18

Facts. Fair enough. All right guys,

1:17:20

we'll catch you back here with some lovely ladies, man. Don't forget to like

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the video, subscribe to the channel. We'll catch you guys in a

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