0:00

Steven, I'm at bowling and I just had

0:02

a person walk up to me and ask

0:04

me what my shirt meant and I was

0:06

like, photography? And they're like, oh, do you

0:08

do this? I'm like, no, I make YouTube

0:10

videos. He's like, so are you like a

0:12

macro or micro influencer? I was like, no,

0:15

I'm a fucking global influencer.

0:19

Is that a dick thing to say? Steven, isn't

0:21

it funny how people just don't, they

0:23

just can't grasp or wrap their head

0:25

around what we do or people like

0:28

us do for a living? I

0:30

find it insanely hard to explain to people what

0:32

I do for a living every single time. It's

0:35

like the guy comes up to me, he looks at my shirt

0:37

and he's like, I've always seen this. What

0:39

does it mean? I tell him, is it

0:41

sexual? What is it? But they always go,

0:43

oh, like you shoot portraits or weddings. And of

0:45

course I'm like weddings. You

0:48

know, I don't mean it that way. Like weddings are a bad

0:50

thing to shoot, but no, I've been there, done that. But I'm

0:52

like, no, I make, I make YouTube videos about

0:55

photography. And so are you

0:57

macro or micro influencer? Are you like a

0:59

macro or micro influencer? Nah, man.

1:01

Are you regional bro? Fucking

1:03

global bitch. You know, did

1:05

you actually tell him that? I didn't

1:08

say global bitch. I said, no,

1:10

I'm fucking global influencer.

1:13

But I didn't do it in a dick way. And my

1:16

teammate was like, that was a fucking

1:18

dick way of saying it. I'm like, no, no, man.

1:20

It's just true. You

1:22

remind me of Ben Stiller in

1:25

Dodgeball, like his attitude, how cocky he

1:27

is. Global Jim,

1:29

Steven. That's right.

1:31

Global. No one makes me bleed my

1:33

own blood. Exactly. Yeah.

1:36

I mean, yes, I guess I have some

1:38

Ben Stiller vibes that exist. Well, Ben Stiller

1:40

in that movie, that character. It's kind of

1:42

true. Like people just don't, they don't get

1:45

it. They don't, they don't get it. And

1:47

it's, it's all right in some situations, but

1:49

in others, like I'm shooting the work. World

1:51

series. Oh, who are you shooting for me?

1:54

No, no, really? Like, who are you shooting for? I'm like,

1:56

yeah, me, like me, my.

2:00

brand. You know,

2:02

it's like I have this

2:04

thing that is bigger than these

2:06

publications and it's hard for

2:08

people to wrap their head around, oh, it's

2:10

not Sports Illustrated, it's not USA Today. I

2:12

find the hardest thing to explain is that

2:15

it's not just doing simple little YouTube videos.

2:17

Like you don't just say, I'm a YouTuber

2:19

or I make YouTube videos because that could

2:21

be anyone from making a quick

2:23

video on their phone to having a high end

2:26

production. So I always just kind of say like

2:28

I do video production, video producer,

2:31

creative director, like I just throw all kinds of names

2:33

out there just to make it easy for them to

2:35

wrap their head around what I do. But for the

2:37

most part, I just say I'm like a video editor

2:40

of video production. But yeah, I try not to say

2:42

I make YouTube content because I feel like that really

2:44

dumb it down. And people just automatically assume like you're

2:46

some kid in the basement like making shitty videos. Well,

2:49

the first thing I say is I'm a photographer

2:51

who so happens to make YouTube videos for a

2:53

living. And then it then the next

2:56

question is, can you make money at that? That's

2:58

always the next question. And yes,

3:00

we've made I own how many properties

3:02

Steven? I lost count a long

3:04

time ago. Five

3:07

properties. Okay, okay, Ben

3:09

Stiller. Thanks YouTube. But

3:12

it's one of these ongoing things

3:14

that everybody always wants to know how do

3:16

you make money at it? Because I think the last thing

3:18

you want to call yourself is an influencer

3:20

because that also could be portrayed as

3:22

like, Oh, you make little tiktoks or

3:25

like, you know, Instagram stories and promote

3:27

products and blah, blah, blah. Well,

3:30

Vanessa Joy just put out a video about her

3:33

thoughts on on like people quitting YouTube and

3:35

what it takes. She's like, Oh, I just

3:37

thought, you know, before I started doing YouTube

3:39

that people just like that's easy. And then

3:41

she, yeah. Then you do it and

3:43

you're like, Oh, wait, I can't just I mean,

3:45

when I first started, Steven, I just

3:48

make videos and put them on the internet just

3:50

straight through. That's what I did. But that was

3:52

also 14 years ago. I mean,

3:54

hey, it's literally a full time job

3:56

for all three of us and we

3:58

never ever have downtime. Like we're never

4:00

caught up. We're always on to the next thing

4:03

before we even finish the last thing. So that's

4:05

self-imposed. I mean, part of that's self-imposed. For sure.

4:08

But, you know, to try and keep doing two, three videos

4:10

a week is, and most of our videos

4:12

are 20, 25 minutes these days. You

4:14

know, it's not five minutes anymore. And there's a ton of

4:16

B-roll and photos to show and all that kind of stuff.

4:18

It takes a lot of time. I

4:20

can't imagine someone like Vanessa Joy, how she

4:23

does it because she's a

4:25

mother, she's a photographer with a

4:27

full-time business, that alone takes up

4:29

a ton of time, and then trying to do all

4:31

the YouTube content around that on top of

4:33

it. It's tough. She does it different than us. She

4:35

does a lot of batching, like film 12 videos in

4:38

a day, and then send it

4:40

out to editor, like certain

4:42

editors online that do a specific job, but

4:44

it's not how we want to do things.

4:46

I didn't realize she's not editing them as

4:48

well in-house and all of that. I didn't

4:50

realize she offers a lot of that. Well,

4:53

some of the stuff her husband does. He's

4:55

an editor, which is very helpful. But he's

4:57

also busy and successful as a creator. Not

4:59

an online creator, but as an actual shooter.

5:02

It takes a lot of time though, a lot of time

5:04

and effort. There's not the standard eight-hour

5:06

days. When I'm really deep into a video, I just

5:08

try and get it done that day. Most

5:11

videos, two days for us, even if it's a

5:13

25-minute video. Yep, well,

5:15

most people just don't get it. But I take the

5:17

time and I explain it to them. But I do,

5:19

yes, do I become, do I get

5:22

a dickish sound to me sometimes? You

5:24

don't know what I do? You don't know

5:27

me? But then

5:29

the kid comes up to you, he's like,

5:31

oh, I started an influencer marketing company. Would

5:33

you be interested in influencing?

5:35

I'm like, influencing what? Oh,

5:38

we just do these things. I'm like, no, no. I

5:40

find the hardest part is explaining

5:42

it to older people, the

5:44

older generation, what you do. They just

5:47

think we play on the internet and that's about

5:49

it. So that's really tough. Again, I just try and

5:51

say I'm in filmmaking. Well, the other thing that happens

5:53

is like, oh, can we hire you to do like

5:55

an infomercial? I get that a lot too, yeah. Like,

5:57

no, what you gotta understand is we are production. a

6:00

full on production company for me,

6:03

us. We make videos, we're a production

6:05

company, we make videos for us, which takes up

6:07

all of the time. There's

6:10

no time to go and get trade

6:12

dollars for hours. We're not gonna trade,

6:14

we're not gonna take your money and

6:16

take away, you know, and get paid whatever and have to listen to

6:18

you and do your work. That's just

6:20

not how it is. That's just not how

6:23

we operate. But anyway, that's what I

6:25

said to the guy. I am a global

6:27

fucking influencer. I mean, a global whatever the

6:29

hell, whatever he asked me. What

6:33

did he say again? He said,

6:35

are you a micro or macro influencer? Oh

6:37

yes, yes, no, I'm a global

6:40

influencer because it's true, I'm global, I'm

6:42

global, I work at Global Jim. Hey Steven, how

6:44

about that April Fool's fix? How many people fell

6:46

for it this year? I

6:48

don't know, I mean, I don't know

6:51

how you fall for it when we

6:53

have jokes like the pen 15 double

6:55

dash D grip or MILF autofocus from

6:57

Canon. People are like, I watched the whole

6:59

thing and I didn't realize it was a joke until the

7:01

way in. It's like, how did you get through that penis

7:03

grip? I know why Steven, because

7:05

I'm just such a good global influencer

7:07

because I deliver it the same way

7:10

that I deliver everything else. I'm

7:13

good at delivering that. And it's

7:15

just really easy to write it. Well, actually

7:17

it is easy when you get to make it up

7:19

and you could have a good clickbaity title that then

7:21

gets people to watch. The issue is sometimes you go

7:23

so hard on specs, like just completely make shit up

7:25

from out of thin air and

7:28

I'm like, no, that literally can't physically be possible,

7:31

that specific spec, like having 8K and

7:33

a 24 megapixel camera or something. We try to

7:36

make the specs fairly realistic and

7:38

then we'll throw in one or two just outrageous

7:40

spec to see if we'll throw people off or

7:42

something. The cameras look really

7:44

legit, the product pages look really legit,

7:46

the way you deliver it, especially this year

7:49

that you didn't have a crazy plug.

7:51

Like what was last year? Wasn't it like condoms

7:53

or something? No, last year was

7:55

preparation eight. That's it. But then

7:57

the year before that, wasn't it like Trojan condoms or something? something.

8:01

But this year you actually did a photography

8:03

plug but the funny part and the subtle

8:05

part was that it was about film which

8:07

you would never really promote. So

8:09

hopefully people got that. I

8:11

thought that was really good. It's

8:13

a real store. They actually do film process. That's where

8:15

I got my 4x5 camera that we'll be

8:18

talking about later. To throw people off even

8:20

more too, after we recorded Raw Talk last

8:22

week, I threw a little insert in just

8:25

saying like it's been a really busy week. We

8:27

got a lot of really big products being announced

8:29

next week. Stay tuned. I wish I

8:31

could talk about it now. So hopefully people that listen

8:33

to this podcast saw that fix get posted and were

8:35

like, oh this must be like what Steven was working

8:38

on. Let me check it out and just added a

8:40

little more realness to the fakeness.

8:44

I liked it. I think it went well. I liked that we could

8:46

make some stuff up every once in a while. So

8:48

for those that didn't watch the April Fool's video,

8:50

we basically made up three cameras. Three

8:53

of the next cameras that we're assuming will

8:55

be launched. The A12 from Sony, the Z63

8:58

from Nikon and the Canon R1. The

9:00

hard part every year is trying to

9:02

make fake cameras look real. Specs

9:05

that don't exist make them look real. And

9:08

that was my job this past week for a

9:10

day and a half was to try and make

9:12

all these fake cameras up. Luckily the R1, that is

9:15

almost the exact same story from last year. I saw

9:17

a bunch of people be like, this is the same

9:20

thing as last year. It's like, no, just the R1

9:22

was the same and the Pen15 grip. But everything else

9:24

was brand new this year, but we did rehash the

9:27

Canon R1 story. I think I just had to

9:29

change like the press release date and the processor

9:31

name and a couple of little things here and

9:33

there. But that is verbatim like the exact same

9:35

script and everything. But the

9:37

A12 was new this year and that essentially

9:40

was just an A93 body. I ended

9:42

up changing the A93 nameplate to the gold A1.

9:44

I added the custom function buttons on the front,

9:46

which most flagships have. Again, I try and make

9:49

them look as realistic as possible. I truly

9:51

think if an A12 came out that this is

9:53

probably what it would look like if it had

9:55

an integrated vertical grip. Speaking of that grip,

9:57

I took the grip from the A93, but the hard part

10:00

was having to take out the shadowing and the

10:02

dials and make it look like it's part of

10:04

the body. So there was a lot of like

10:06

clone stamping and shadowing added there. And I'm not

10:08

like a Photoshop expert, so I'm not the best

10:10

at this stuff, but I

10:13

think I made it look pretty decent. And on the

10:15

back of the camera, that was tough to make with the

10:17

grip since there's like a groove in it where it

10:19

attaches to the camera and making it look like the screen

10:21

was part of it too. That was really hard. But

10:23

I think it's all about the details and that's why I

10:25

think when they watch these April Fool's fixes, they're like,

10:27

this looks legit. Like the product pages,

10:29

they're not that hard to make. They just take

10:31

a good amount of time. But I

10:34

take the actual tech spec product pages

10:36

from Sony, from Canon, from Nikon,

10:38

they're all different. But if you go to

10:40

their websites, these pages should look very similar

10:43

to how they actually showcase the camera and

10:45

their specs. Really all I do

10:47

is just replace all of their text with ours and

10:49

then switch the cameras out. But

10:51

I even swap little things like the

10:53

serial numbers, the model numbers, like Sony

10:56

always goes by, for example, the A93,

10:58

ILC-E9M3 is the model number and

11:01

I swapped it out with ILC-E1M2, which

11:03

will probably be the actual model number for

11:06

the A12 when it comes out.

11:08

And then I add things like new arrival or

11:10

notify me when available buttons and stuff like that.

11:13

So it really looks legit. But

11:15

what saves me with making those fake pages is I

11:17

have a little Chrome plugin that

11:19

literally tells me the exact font,

11:22

size, spacing, if it's semi bold

11:24

or regular, whatever. So I use

11:26

everything exactly the same that

11:29

the website uses. And I think that's what really

11:31

sells those specific pages. For

11:33

show, I will say people did

11:35

notice the Nikon Z63 and

11:38

how it was a lot of Panasonic parts.

11:40

I took the S1H, the mode dial and

11:42

the record button, the threads, stuff like that.

11:44

And I made that camera up mixed

11:46

in with a Z62 and a Z8. I'm

11:48

surprised at how many people noticed that, but

11:50

obviously I think most Nikon users that only

11:52

know Nikon wouldn't really know that that was

11:54

like a Panasonic part and stuff like that.

11:57

But someone did call me out that, like when I put it next to the

11:59

Z8. I tried to make it

12:01

look like a mini v8 and just made it smaller And

12:03

they're like well the mount wasn't the same size and I'm

12:06

like I didn't even think about that like little things Yeah,

12:08

that stuff doesn't matter. I mean it's meant

12:10

to be for fun We do that thing for fun,

12:12

and we do it every year and this year. We

12:14

didn't get a company threaten us like

12:16

last year I even Mimicked

12:19

Sony's typical like product tour videos when they launch a

12:21

camera You know like the a93 and it's like showing

12:23

the camera and the specs and stuff. I tried to

12:25

show the the font on the

12:27

left with the spec on the right and stuff and I

12:29

think it really Looked legit and

12:32

the hard part is doing all this in

12:34

a day or two, but yeah I think

12:36

it was another successful April

12:38

Fool's video. Yeah, we'll get ready for

12:40

doing it again next year Yeah, again

12:42

next year speaking of next year I

12:45

don't know when the next solar eclipse is gonna be

12:47

but the current solar eclipse is gonna be Monday here

12:50

Are you are you gonna go go

12:52

as in like travel somewhere to really

12:54

see it like full reality? Yes, you

12:56

have to see so totality or bust

12:58

is my motto I agree, but

13:00

I think you still see like 90% of it Stephen It's

13:03

not the same what I can tell you

13:05

is in 2007. I took a ride to

13:07

what North North Carolina then South Carolina And

13:10

how did you go that way a totality? Well?

13:12

Yeah, we drove down me and my ex at

13:14

the time We stayed with our guy our buddy

13:16

Jeff At his place

13:18

and then we were so close to totality

13:20

because we're like 90% But if you're at 90% you're not gonna see it

13:24

So you're just not gonna see it and

13:26

then we were like well shit How

13:28

do we get to to a place? where do

13:31

we even go on a map to get to

13:33

totality and so I Found

13:35

where the path was and I

13:37

found a I was like Walmart We will

13:39

find a Walmart parking lot because that sounds

13:41

like a good place to aim for it's

13:43

a big parking lot And it gives us

13:45

a target and we got there and then

13:47

we ended up going across the street to

13:49

a high school That that was doing a

13:51

thing and you just sat there and it

13:53

was cool because you sit there Totality starts

13:55

to happen the lights end up coming on

13:57

because they're all on sensors

14:00

And then the animals

14:02

start chirping. The insects, yeah, because they get all

14:05

thrown off. And then all of a

14:07

sudden totality's gone. I think it

14:09

was only like two minutes last time.

14:11

This time it's like four minutes. And

14:13

it's great because it's running across the

14:15

entire United States from

14:17

like Buffalo down through Texas.

14:19

I think it's going through Dallas. So if you

14:21

live in Dallas, you get to see it as

14:23

long as you don't have major thunderstorms. Yeah,

14:26

it's all petit-pixo. I think posted a map

14:28

of where the actual true path is for

14:30

full totality. And yeah, it

14:32

really does run right down pretty much

14:35

the middle of America. It's a hundred

14:37

mile swath of

14:39

an area as it just runs through. And

14:41

it's about four minutes of totality.

14:43

For us, I guess what? We'd have to drive

14:45

like six hours away to kind of see. You

14:48

got to drive past Pittsburgh to like

14:50

Cleveland is in totality. Terrible. Or

14:53

you go up to Buffalo, that area. Yeah.

14:56

That is, I mean, but it's a long, you're looking at a long

14:58

ass drive. I've seen totality. Is

15:01

it worth it? Is

15:04

anything, do I enjoy anything? No, no. And that's why I'm

15:06

like, I know you're going to say no. No,

15:08

I mean, it's cool. But again, I don't

15:10

get, it's like people

15:13

going to a Taylor Swift show, like

15:15

fawning and falling all over themselves because they think

15:17

it's the most amazing thing. I tried to watch

15:19

the Taylor Swift thing on Disney Plus, tried to

15:22

watch some of it, and I'm like, this is

15:24

just three and a half hours of her on

15:26

stage. I don't care. Like I

15:28

don't care. I don't need to watch

15:30

this. I'm not a huge fan of

15:32

watching like concerts after the fact, you

15:34

know, or any live performances because I'd

15:37

rather be there. You have to be there to really

15:39

experience it fully. Just watching it, I'd rather just listen

15:41

to like a live album on Spotify or something like

15:43

that. Well, it's like people asking me, are you going

15:46

to photograph the eclipse? And I'm like, no, I didn't photograph

15:48

it in 2017. I'm

15:50

not going to photograph it now. No, because I didn't

15:52

care. Everybody else can take pictures of

15:54

it. They all look the

15:56

same. There's nothing unique and different about it. And

15:58

I don't need it. Can I do it? Yeah,

16:01

cuz you know why I'm a global fucking influencer.

16:03

I can do it. All right I don't need

16:06

to do it. You know who I am, right?

16:08

I don't I don't need to I don't want

16:11

to I have no desire To take those pictures

16:13

personally I was there to just watch it and

16:15

then we got in the car and we turned

16:17

around and we started driving back home Oh,

16:20

you guys didn't even hang out You

16:22

drove all that way just to hang out for like 10 minutes

16:24

and leave Well, I mean you had to be

16:26

it was a long way to go and we had a trip out of it

16:29

Like stay a night or two, you know stay a

16:32

night in the fucking Walmart parking lot There

16:37

There's probably something to do No,

16:39

not where we we ended up in

16:41

some podunk South Carolina town that was

16:43

overrun by people coming to see the

16:45

totality basically what I did is I

16:47

chose a location that I felt was

16:49

not going to be a Normal

16:52

location that people would gravitate towards,

16:55

you know, it wasn't like one of the big cities

16:57

It was something off the beaten path, which was kind

16:59

of cool to go to one of those local

17:02

shitty restaurants It was honestly really shitty that

17:04

was there but we sat at table There

17:06

were so many people that you ended up

17:08

sitting at tables with other random people then

17:10

and that's that was cool That

17:12

part was cool. But the whole thing

17:14

of watching it you're like, well,

17:17

I mean I said Wow I was like, well,

17:19

he said well, I was like, wow, that's cool

17:21

when it goes and disappears and you're like I

17:24

mean it is it is cool shit. I think I want

17:26

to go see it I want to go see it Steven.

17:28

I'm gonna get in the car right now and start driving.

17:30

I'm surprised you weren't like that's it Yeah,

17:34

well that's basically it for two minutes, I mean

17:36

it's it's cool Don't get me wrong But what does

17:38

he's gonna be about 85 or 90 percent here So

17:41

we just have to you go outside and you can

17:43

look with your glasses not your like glasses

17:46

I have I have these um steampunk

17:48

looking Welder's goggles that I

17:50

bought last time well before we went on

17:52

well before they all sold out Right

17:54

and I and I had these things and they look really

17:58

dumb, but but whatever I

18:00

was looking up at the world through these

18:02

goggles. I bought some super cheap

18:04

Amazon ones for this time around just in case I

18:06

end up doing anything, which I know I won't, but

18:09

you never know. And who knows if they're

18:11

real or fake? Like you take a total chance if you

18:13

buy shitty ones on Amazon, but again, I... Just wear two.

18:16

I'll wear them up. I think it's like an eight pack.

18:18

I'll just wear all eight. Yeah, I mean, how bad can

18:20

it be? Just wear eight. I

18:23

don't know what they actually do. They're like,

18:25

don't look at an eclipse. Why is an

18:27

eclipse stronger than looking

18:29

at the sun? Well, I think it's just as

18:31

powerful a raise, but you're staring at it for

18:33

like four minutes straight, two minutes straight, whatever it

18:35

may be. I think it's only full totality is

18:37

where you can look at it without glasses, right?

18:41

I don't remember. Yeah, maybe, I think. I

18:43

think we took our glasses off for

18:45

full totality. Yeah, it's supposed to filter

18:48

out ultraviolet, infrared, and intense visible light

18:50

rays. That's what the goggles are

18:52

supposed to do. Hopefully these

18:54

cheap $10 ones do that. I'll

18:57

just layer them up. My eyes.

18:59

I'm not blind. I'm blind. I

19:01

don't. I shouldn't have looked at the eclipse.

19:03

I should have bought the $20 version. What

19:06

you do is you get one of those

19:08

strainers for vegetables or spaghetti

19:10

strainers, and you hold that up,

19:12

and then it creates all of

19:14

the... You

19:17

can watch on the ground as the

19:19

shadow looks like the

19:21

shadow. The

19:24

shadow looks like the freaking eclipse happening

19:26

on the ground. Yeah, but that's not

19:29

fun. I might as well just watch the

19:31

eclipse after the fact on YouTube. Yeah, you

19:33

might as well. Oh, that was amazing. That was great. I mean,

19:35

it's cool to see. Go far as

19:37

burning out your eyes, looking at it. If

19:39

you're right there, it's a good thing to see. If

19:41

you got to go like... Look, if you've never seen

19:43

totality, go see totality if you

19:46

can, but don't settle

19:48

for Don't settle for 99%. It's

19:51

totality or bust. You go all

19:53

the way or you don't go at all. That's

19:55

it. I think they said the next one is about 20 years

19:58

away. Is it really? Like 20, 40 years away. For

20:00

something in North America at least. Ah

20:02

shit Stephen. Last summer they

20:05

go on Monday by the way. For.

20:08

Four minutes. He gonna go see it happening Or travel

20:10

Or eight hours away for four minutes? Yeah, Yeah

20:12

but the problem is and there's traffic to

20:15

the gets. everybody's trying to get to the

20:17

totality his own soil, all the roads are

20:19

backed up a good is really up a

20:21

a thing it's really a thing you gotta

20:23

get their the every if you have a

20:25

Dallas you're already there's let's move on let's

20:27

move on I am. Did you see me

20:30

playing with the scanner yesterday and unscrewing the

20:32

the live in? I saw the crazy amount

20:34

of dust and debris you had in their.

20:37

It don't blame me Stephen, I don't

20:39

I don't know how my scanner got

20:42

so much just up an older the

20:44

glass on the top. There's to this

20:46

to wears glasses top last as bottom

20:49

glass because it's hands topics as bottoms

20:51

and it's just ah. Terrible.

20:54

Idol. Underside I have. I have a

20:56

printer on one machine scanner and my glass.

20:58

same thing here. I never use it, never

21:00

lifted up and yet I just was up

21:02

the other day after looking at yours and

21:04

there's debris everywhere and sides. That's how did

21:07

that happen. It's a slow as a sealed.

21:09

It but it's not. I mean I like.

21:11

I mean this is an Epson Pro Scan

21:14

or V scanners of at an absent V

21:16

eight fifty. It's like. Ten. Years

21:18

old at this point, but. It's.

21:20

The only one that they say that will

21:22

make them anymore like this the last version

21:24

they make because why are they going to

21:26

continue to make more snow? Does a pretty

21:28

good job scanning for by. five negatives though,

21:30

I put them directly on the glass because

21:33

the the scanner or terrier that they give

21:35

you cuts out the border and I want

21:37

the border. I don't want to just look

21:39

like a regular photograph. I want to see

21:41

the actual border and so. I.

21:43

Was like there's so much dust under here that

21:45

it's really a problems. I'm going to try and

21:47

and and clean it so I figure out how

21:49

to take it off like I got of fucked

21:51

it up. The whole

21:54

top scanner part wasn't work. I mentioned to you

21:56

I was like you can probably just clean it

21:58

like remove it and then I read more. Right

22:00

after and I think that you text me like I think I'm

22:02

a cinema and I'm like I realize you're gonna do it right

22:04

then mare. I would help the out

22:06

the know there's nothing you could do Now the

22:08

what if I knew the if they're probably needs

22:10

to be a locking thing that lock the scanner

22:12

first and then take the glass off. Yeah there

22:15

was a lock. I didn't see that lock it

22:17

made. didn't see the lock until yesterday when I

22:19

tried to do it again but that the bottom

22:21

part works. top part doesn't work. Ah. They.

22:23

Still sell this by the way, yet still

22:25

thirteen hundred our lox. New. Book.

22:27

Be an aide said they'd send me one

22:29

anyway if if apps and doesn't want to

22:31

send me another once. It's it's it's it's

22:33

It's disappointing that it had so many was

22:35

like it was like you know someone was

22:37

doing cocaine on the bottom glass and this

22:39

was the residue that they didn't snort up.

22:41

that's how much was there. right in the

22:43

middle of the scan area. I. See

22:46

the Digital Ice Technology logo on the

22:48

front? Like that City software we sabbaths

22:50

with the Habit on like the know

22:52

to our processor that we used. It

22:54

was the worst A A would do.

22:56

Like the worst auto correction ever City

22:58

it's the are. I actually don't mind

23:00

when I scanned the for by fives

23:02

in their certain imperfections in it's I

23:04

think that's blends well to film. Agreed,

23:06

it's kind of natural there. Are you

23:08

not like a massive scratch, pitiless, a

23:10

minor affair, or something like that? The.

23:12

Other hair I'll I'll take out. It's unfortunate

23:14

that I did that with the scanners. Kind

23:16

of frustrating. badass. I I thought maybe I

23:18

could clean it. Really, what's the point of

23:20

having a dirty scanner? But the reason I

23:22

bring this up. His. I've been

23:24

talking for weeks about the for by

23:26

five camera that I purchased at that

23:29

Retro Scammer store. Told Retro Photo and

23:31

reading p a decent N so. The.

23:34

Mystery for my five films: Demon

23:36

Testing our Tell Me More High

23:38

Five nineteen Forties Camera aerial. Reconnaissance.

23:41

Lens that radioactive and it was

23:44

all gearing up to photograph baseball.

23:46

And the Phillies had home opener!

23:49

They. Had a second game at a thirty

23:51

minute a couple that we're basically all and

23:53

rain so I wasn't gonna go to those

23:55

saw tell you the day before opening day

23:57

I was all anxious added know like and

23:59

like. Am I going to do houses

24:01

gonna work Glove applause And then. Then.

24:04

The day of the game I was like. Yeah.

24:06

I'm super jazzed like this. Gonna be

24:08

great. I'm excited to go before they

24:10

got my Three Sixty camera ready to

24:12

film the process of that. The answer:

24:14

Three Sixty. Go on My head spas

24:16

it real So I look like a

24:18

moron and go right now. It's great.

24:20

It's I don't need same. I'm doing

24:22

this for the people. Would you know

24:24

why I'm doing? If I know what

24:26

you look ridiculous in the process of,

24:28

you know why I look ridiculous. Stephen

24:30

I'm a global fucking influencer. Seated Look

24:32

ridiculous if you're a global influence or

24:34

it's part of the game, You. Can so

24:37

I I I was super excited or everybody's

24:39

asking me questions of getting said are people

24:41

are curious how it's going to works. I

24:43

step out onto the field and and the

24:46

players are when a walk in from center

24:48

field and upstander going. With.

24:50

Enormous was to do now like their what

24:52

I can't focus while they're walking skip have

24:54

to discern what's your oil frames per second

24:56

with a I've autofocus dared know. So what

24:59

I realized the one I would have who

25:01

need to do in the future is you

25:03

find a spot it's called zone focusing from

25:05

way back in the day says you pick

25:07

like say the foul line and you focus

25:09

on the foul line of what a subject

25:12

that works walks right there. You're like public

25:14

see a pre focusing in that area in

25:16

the hopes that someone hits it. You just

25:18

gotta be patient and wait for it. And

25:20

hope that things don't move. So I

25:22

was like. This. Is impossible. I

25:24

have to wait for things to stop moving.

25:27

So for one the Philly fanatic stop moving.

25:29

So I set up a picture with him

25:31

while he was standing there during the pre

25:33

national anthem which was America the Beautiful or

25:35

whatever stupid song they were singing and then

25:37

I focused on their that Philly fanatic ah

25:39

some I am go to the process almost

25:42

forgot to wind the shudder four times to

25:44

they got a wind up for times to

25:46

get the one five hundredth of a second

25:48

I had to raised by aperture to like

25:50

f six point three because of the lights

25:52

or is it reset. Every time you take a

25:54

picture, the shutter speed. Yeah. You talk it

25:56

and then when you pick the shudder goes and

25:59

goes from one side. After the goes back one

26:01

to one twenty one one twenty fifth of a

26:03

second stated get to go to one thirtieth. hit

26:05

it again It goes to t seventy other Hit

26:07

it again to open up the back so that

26:09

you can get to the ground glass to see

26:11

what you're looking at as a pain. So.

26:13

I stole to I got the Philly fanatic. And.

26:16

Then I turned on. I saw Throb

26:18

Thompson the coach on the bench so

26:20

I went over there like closer to

26:22

the the bench areas law had to

26:24

lower the camera status pre focus on

26:26

him. Hopefully he doesn't move. And

26:29

keep in mind your your one that does not

26:31

suit with a tripod like ever use heat tripods.

26:33

Yeah this is a totally different subject I or

26:35

not you have tried to. I'm just saying like

26:38

I can just imagine the frustration that you had

26:40

like authors like I do a quick ago to

26:42

move move the tripod. my kids just broke wicked

26:44

on my knees and take a picture. I stayed

26:46

calm. It was about you gotta relax and do.

26:49

Don't try to do too much and just. Just

26:52

feel it's now. Remember. Back

26:54

in the days the field for this, the

26:56

sports photographers and news photographers didn't use tripods.

26:58

But the difference between what I'm doing and

27:00

what their dimmock? What I'm attempting to do

27:02

is I'm attempting to shoot a lot of

27:04

the stuff it up. Two. Point five

27:06

right? and that's super shallows. They were shooting

27:09

with lenses that were six, threes and seven.

27:11

Once they didn't have lenses that opened up

27:13

as much, they were just document it, would

27:15

take pics. It didn't matter about out of

27:17

focused on habitat rob ya him mounted. You

27:20

know they got the news, They got the

27:22

action, they got something happening so that's why

27:24

it was much easier to say could pre

27:26

focus. They knew that they had like a

27:28

four foot spans that was going to be

27:31

in focus and they were able to flip

27:33

the darkslide and them whatever and get the

27:35

shots. So. It.

27:38

Was a super challenge. Then for the national anthem

27:40

I knew that the players would be announced than

27:42

and stand on the line and I got like

27:44

two minute while minute and a half of the

27:46

national anthems to try and get a shot. So

27:48

I get one shot and then I know there's

27:50

going to be a fly over with two jets

27:52

and from the New Jersey Devils season and I

27:54

read or my house to but I didn't seem

27:57

a day. Yeah what a flew over center

27:59

field. Look at me, I can

28:01

be center field so I knew they were

28:03

in a Cubs so ice free. Focused on

28:05

the line of people and was probably a

28:08

five. Six or six three does it a

28:10

sunny day and then I realized like there's

28:12

a one of those one of the team.

28:15

Social. Media people started of maybe venture

28:17

into my frame five feet on. The.

28:20

A full reign right? they can. We? Are

28:22

they going america big go and have been

28:24

rang? then go anywhere in rain style and

28:27

then also because Harper standing there there's like

28:29

have a camera guy right behind him as

28:31

a photographer double. But I'm like it doesn't

28:33

matter. This is the scene so I'm sitting

28:35

there by this on there will always look

28:37

better without them in the scene. With that

28:39

I don't have a choice but I'm out

28:41

there. You could see it on the three

28:43

sixty camera. When we posted that I'm waiting

28:46

with my finger on the shudder but table

28:48

released said I us. Time. Worrying

28:50

for the plane to fly the planes the

28:52

flight and I'm like okay sweets with when

28:54

they get a certain point I think that's

28:56

up in the sky, I think that's in

28:58

my frames and I go click flip the

29:00

dark side back, put it in. And

29:03

I've done. And I literally sought for pictures

29:05

in those thirty minutes and you have to

29:07

this day, no idea if any of those

29:10

came out right. I don't have

29:12

an idea. No, I haven't seen them yet.

29:14

Stephen, I haven't seen that because I I

29:16

wasn't sure if I should process that myself.

29:19

There were many schools of thought. My one

29:21

buddy Dan is like you're an asshole if

29:23

you don't process of yourself because what's the

29:25

point of shooting film If you're not going

29:27

to go do the entire process. I don't

29:30

believe in that. it off. And. Then

29:32

other people that are like. Shooters

29:34

Professional shooters like. Nah!

29:36

Man. You. Do what you do

29:38

which is shoots and you drop off the

29:40

negatives to be processed by someone else. The

29:43

pros via. Book. But there's also

29:45

a dilemma that comes with. That's because then

29:47

I have to drive it down to the

29:49

protocol. You could mail it to them and

29:51

I'm like or non negative risk mailing it

29:53

to them sorts forty five minutes away and

29:55

in Wilmington, Delaware and so. I

29:57

you know have to make the decision to I want to

29:59

drag. Down to buy got drive down it back.

30:01

that's an hour and a half and then when

30:04

they're ready I gotta drive down and back to

30:06

the dow and a half. I could have process

30:08

the whole stuff myself as smell of I did

30:10

order chemicals out because I did want to try

30:12

it so my friend suggested a certain chemical which

30:14

I've ended up. I did mix it's but the

30:16

problem is that the. The development

30:19

time for this is like twice as long

30:21

as a D Seventy Six developer. This is

30:23

No. for developers. I'm going to make some

30:25

content about this. A you understand the process.

30:28

Spoke for once. It was eight and a

30:30

half minutes for the D Seventy six and

30:32

it was like sixteen minutes of developing with

30:34

this other slower Ilford Dibella is the differences

30:37

are quality difference. I think one may be

30:39

spine or grain. I don't understand how that

30:41

fully works do I think there's going to

30:43

be much of a difference. The answer is

30:46

no of one Them be more like the

30:48

film Emotion. And everything like. That. In

30:50

turn to the green structure and so

30:52

lucky if the faster the hotter the

30:55

temperature the sastre of developing is, the

30:57

more Graeme is introduced into the negative

30:59

file. I know that the restraint vs.

31:01

the I'd known that since since way

31:03

back in school and that's that's what

31:05

it was. If you're developer was too

31:08

hot then you're developing much faster. Which

31:10

means the grain for whatever reason gets

31:12

a little more grainy. So I'm going

31:14

through this dilemma. I'm like, you know

31:16

what? I've got these two matisyahu spot

31:19

price of negatives that. I took when he

31:21

was here. I don't I? yes I care if

31:23

they get ruined but let me know he gives

31:25

us a shots. I spent like. Forever.

31:28

On the phone with one of these

31:30

us. That retro photo the

31:32

thing that we did the April Fools plug with businessmen

31:34

an hour and and change on the phone with the

31:36

guy to seize mixing chemicals all day to develop black

31:38

and white to develop a lot of black and white

31:41

films and so he give me that this is how

31:43

many grams you need a way out and this is

31:45

how hot the water need to the base and this

31:47

is what you need to do. So I did that

31:49

for the fixer and then when the fix or got

31:51

through the proper temperature like four hours later how that

31:54

I it. Fixes. Was great

31:56

and so I don't mind as

31:58

it's sulfur, whatever. So Renee. Totally

32:00

fine. I. Go

32:02

up into our make shipyard, make

32:05

shift dark room upstairs and. Use.

32:07

My. I practice first with

32:10

the with the with the the holder that

32:12

I bought. It can do six negatives at

32:14

a time but I just did too and

32:16

I went through the process and I have

32:18

negatives and they worked. And it's just

32:20

like and then I was like man should I really

32:22

be dish I do this myself and then I decide

32:24

on like I'm going to take it the Del Rey,

32:26

drop it off at Delaware and of course as I'm

32:28

driving home you get the shipment of all the new

32:31

chemicals that I bought says I bought them because in

32:33

the hopes that I've gotta do it myself and then

32:35

I'm like kicking myself because the know like it's going

32:37

to be about a week. Now. He

32:39

got away answer the doorbell and it was fed

32:41

ex with these be an aid packages and I'm

32:43

like I guarantee this is chemicals for Jared and

32:45

he just left to go get the film process

32:47

and develops is that before coming beside you they

32:49

were coming I made the decision that's you know

32:51

I want someone else to do this batch of

32:54

twenty and when you got back you're like balakotis

32:56

do myself ago I almost I could have but

32:58

then it's a sites. If I develop it and

33:00

I fuck something up it's like damn I should

33:02

have just taken it somewhere else. So what I

33:04

need to do is take some photos here and

33:06

then practice in the dark room and see if

33:08

I did. It would hurt he did. I did a

33:10

practice and I did succeed at doing it but I

33:13

don't know what you don't know. like would they process

33:15

it better and develop at a certain way where you

33:17

know what you're doing. My tweak a little bit of

33:19

the just the overall contrast of the image. Stuff like

33:21

that you never know. Not. A huge

33:24

you don't know but also there is always

33:26

the possibility that they fuck ups and that

33:28

would be terrible. But I also will get

33:30

to see the colored negatives I took to

33:32

color negatives when I was there and we'll

33:35

see what those look like as they can

33:37

process those arm. So

33:39

yeah after the first game I was

33:41

like this is this is gonna be

33:43

impossible I don't know what I got

33:45

myself into, this is terrible what am

33:47

I doing and I felt really bummed.

33:49

So did you notice a lot more

33:51

players looking at you this time around

33:53

because you know you? You have this

33:55

crazy camera set up from the nineteen

33:57

forties, Our or was just like every

33:59

other. They were the just ignoring every photographer and

34:01

field know I'm eager stubs came up and talk

34:03

to me. said I for he's a urine though

34:05

I thought he would say hi regardless. So.

34:07

Now he does. you know because I gave my She

34:09

rodgers but know if he falls me on Instagram I

34:12

follow him on instagram and it's cool that he came

34:14

up any you know said high school know I I

34:16

have I have that video was wealth and i heard

34:18

on ask like how was Africa and everything it seems

34:20

the yeah we does actually volume. I

34:22

mean you're global influence or so. but

34:24

Stephen this one. I suspect local influencers

34:27

so I influence so many people thought

34:29

but but he was some. Get.

34:31

I think people are looking will see it more

34:34

on the three sixty camera because I'm more focused

34:36

on getting the photo. And so when I went

34:38

back for the third game which was the second

34:40

game but I'm going to shoot, I went with

34:42

a different mindsets. this game. I'm going to spend

34:44

the time in the stands. I also forgot that

34:47

I wanted to be on the field at the

34:49

beginning of the game. Skill for the player announcements

34:51

and the national anthem. So I get out there

34:53

and I know that Nick Cast the onus is

34:55

always signing autographs before games where he did sign

34:57

autographs This game allowed to get behind him whenever

34:59

I get a picture said it was overcast. So

35:02

now it was that f like two point five. I was where

35:04

I wanted to be. Portrayed. Turner

35:06

went over to sign autographs so I quickly

35:08

got their got down on money. I focused.

35:10

yeah I tried to get my focus rights

35:12

and then I know that my composition may

35:14

not have been perfect as he may have

35:16

moved like a half a foot to the

35:18

right. but I might I know is that

35:20

your side forever. Put the dark side as

35:22

up. put the terrier and pull the darkslides.

35:24

Booms. Take the picture, reverse it, take it

35:27

out. I will. I will tell you I

35:29

did have a few malfunctions our best to

35:31

pictures via on happens. What? what When I

35:33

when I went to put these darkslide back

35:35

in. The thing that you pull out it caught

35:37

underneath the negative thoughts. when a cat it's and

35:39

so that fans it and pushes it into a

35:42

basically pops it out and it's ruined his arms

35:44

that happened to on a shot. I don't think

35:46

it was one of my better shot so that's

35:48

fine and and you just basically stayed you redo

35:50

the shot again but. That. Happen once.

35:53

during each games and if it possibly could be

35:56

the way that I loaded the film that it's

35:58

stuck up to the little bit and. It

36:00

didn't. It didn't work out perfect.

36:02

But. I will say I did get

36:04

a new cast the Honest on the Bench before

36:06

the games and I did get a visual in

36:08

my head of how I can do better next

36:11

time I didn't take a good angle. I'll take

36:13

a better angle next time and that's what this

36:15

process is. It's a learning experience that you start

36:17

just starts and then you just keep buildings expertise

36:20

the more you do it. So were there any

36:22

pictures the obviously you can use and get them

36:24

develop? Yes that's really stick out to you that

36:26

you took that day like anything specific. Really, I

36:28

can't wait to get that one shot back. I

36:31

think I really nailed it. Is a killer. Was

36:33

just gonna like. I think I did alright but

36:35

not really sure. I think a handful of them

36:37

are going to be good because I'm a global

36:39

influence or emphasizes how to be goods but no

36:41

I There were a couple like the the airplane

36:44

flying over rights. did I? Now that or did

36:46

I not nail that? Did the guy get in

36:48

a way of my shot or did he not

36:50

get in the way of my shots right? That's

36:52

good. I got some it. whole place where I.

36:55

I. Actually got a swings, right? You've got

36:57

to anticipates because if they don't swings.

37:00

You. To burn the shot and it's not going

37:02

to be that good. So I sat inside third

37:04

base which was very difficult on the inside because

37:06

I I have a tripod and I feel like

37:08

I'm getting into people's ways which I did and

37:10

I got told that I had the moves that

37:13

wasn't good but you know. I'd.

37:15

Set to keep trying I sat on the floor

37:17

to do it is there are certain you know

37:19

shooting points and him the holes he can shoot

37:21

through the nets and stuff like that to you

37:23

find yourself taking up more space and room now

37:26

with a camera setup like this where you know

37:28

you're taking up to slots instead of one are

37:30

you get and pushback from the Mlb? your the

37:32

Phillies about that or. Or

37:34

other photographers. Or. Partly yes, taking

37:36

up more space. but I'm also very aware of

37:39

everybody else is there to do a job to

37:41

earth and I'm inclined to say that like I'm

37:43

not doing a job at then they're like know

37:45

you actually are, you are doing something, gets difference

37:47

and I'll make them like why in the like

37:50

because you're a global influence as the Us, but

37:52

I made sure that say okay to get the

37:54

shot you don't really need to get chef know

37:56

when I made sure that they were fine. I'm

37:58

like hey, if you. The spot I'll move

38:00

and I know you're good and I'm like okay

38:03

so and so. Also during the early part of

38:05

the seasons certain games there will be that many

38:07

shooters so there's a lot more space. But the

38:09

second game on a Wednesday and obviously a big

38:12

day opening day was was busy and. You

38:14

know I did fine I stay a try

38:16

to stay out of the way. it is

38:18

a did good but I may need to

38:20

think of if the if if there's another

38:23

way that I can get a smaller tripods

38:25

or smaller footprint. they said service or the

38:27

space is reserved for the major influencers. You're

38:29

just a minor one. So the other you've

38:31

got a Gautier macro and micro and macro.

38:33

My narrow and micro is what he said

38:35

it's are you know what I should get

38:37

a shirt that says global influencer on the

38:40

back is I have the cert right Someone

38:42

got me shirt years ago the said i'm

38:44

big on the internet it was before I

38:46

was big on the internet so I was

38:48

actually lying. The specific what you'd probably be

38:50

yours use as the I probably had like

38:52

five thousand troops drivers on wow big on

38:54

the internet I've got two thousand subscribers on

38:56

you tube look at me. But. What

38:59

happened during that other game that the second

39:01

give a shot where I was in the

39:03

outfield see was kind of cool when I

39:05

played with that tilton pants but I wanted

39:07

to a handicapped area where there were no

39:10

heady capable people sitting so was fine. I'm

39:12

out of the way my tripod set up

39:14

and I get a tap on my shoulder.

39:16

There's three security guards behind me. Unfortunately, I

39:18

wasn't rolling at the time and I turn

39:21

around. Do like? excuse me? Do you have

39:23

a credential to be here? are my They're

39:25

like are you a global influence? There is

39:27

is a how many times. As that too

39:29

many more. C I A Business. So

39:32

I turned around like or do you belong

39:35

and I looked down at my pass on

39:37

my hundred percent. Yeah. It's are or

39:39

we've We've never seen anybody shooting something like

39:41

this before so we just didn't know. I'm

39:43

like, okay, Thanks. For asking? nearly

39:45

as my past know we me alone but

39:47

no. but it's actually good that they were

39:50

checking certain things. You know you can brought

39:52

out a hammer like that in right know?

39:54

how would I bring this into the stadium

39:56

and set up to shoot here But they

39:58

do allow for regular. Readable lens cameras

40:00

crack. Absolutely. You are allowed to bring

40:02

in any camera use one probably know

40:05

as tripadvisor know tripods and as long

40:07

as you don't interfere with other people's

40:09

viewing of the game. Short I saw

40:11

a girl had a had a seventy

40:13

to two hundred. F for

40:15

I six ten and Rs on A

40:17

on A on a body sitting down

40:19

by the sea or measure like a

40:21

six hundred afford like sitting in a

40:23

regular season. the employee borrowing everybody's view

40:25

around you can eat in mean I've

40:27

been done it. Ah. I.

40:30

Said in. I. Magically Isles is

40:32

what? What the twelve hundred millimeter last year?

40:34

But no, I didn't block anybody's you. And

40:36

the reason was I was sitting in in

40:39

in dead or less field where you look

40:41

straight at home plate so you're not blocking

40:43

anybody's view because everybody's looking straight ahead as

40:45

or the lens was pointed straight ahead. But

40:48

I was. I was. I'm I'm more excited

40:50

to see the second batch of images than

40:52

the first because I played with the tilt

40:54

a feature in the cameras and. I

40:57

was able to drop the I A

40:59

So Bizarre truck, the iso drop the

41:01

aperture a little bit because the lighting

41:03

we had more overcast skies. The hopefully

41:05

those exposures are good because I. Was

41:09

under an overhang and I don't

41:11

know it's the meter is metering

41:13

for everything or. Or. If

41:15

you know I still would leave it out

41:17

as not have like a spot metering it

41:19

as a square in as a square in

41:21

the middle so hopefully I I got it

41:23

right soon. that's like spot metering them. Phrase.

41:26

It's not though it's not because if I

41:28

point the. Picture that the the camera

41:30

the phone at like a shaded area, the

41:32

aperture theo it all changes a certain way

41:34

or another. Going to look for another app

41:36

that possibly has a spot meter said i

41:39

know someone sent me that there is one

41:41

but it's more of an old school style.

41:43

Like. Nineteen fifties like meters look and I

41:45

don't want that. I don't want the Nineteen

41:47

Fifties light meter look. I once a spot

41:50

meter or I could just get it rubs

41:52

a psychotic real way out or a long

41:54

as I ruin. I'm surprised you of all

41:56

people. I. Had one and I don't

41:58

as it as but away. Really?

42:00

do? I don't remember ever having one at

42:02

the studio. at least. But we

42:04

did. It was in my it was in

42:06

mice Maestro bag that are used. Oh yes

42:09

oh the one that I had was this

42:11

the Connick Else Three, Zero Eight X. With

42:13

that run of days two hundred and nine

42:15

dollars worth psychotic speed master with digital screens.

42:18

Six hundred and twenty nine dollars. Farm this

42:20

as good as a high as the Kotick

42:22

Want to? Six hundred and seventy nine dollars?

42:25

It's or oh Jesus Christ

42:27

Satanic Spectrometer see Eight hundred,

42:29

seventeen hundred dollars a whole.

42:31

I guarantee. really given that

42:33

one oh Jesus Ago Caesar

42:36

salad I can buys. Here's

42:38

a here's a twenty Three Hundred dollar one.

42:40

Stephen. Added. Twenty four hundred

42:42

dollar when the comes with a bottle Kids. Anyway,

42:45

I'm excited to do it. The dilemma

42:47

is still remaining on whether or not

42:49

I should be processing these negatives myself.

42:51

Ah, and scaring them. Been that I

42:53

broke the scanner. I have to get

42:55

another scanner so we'll see if that

42:57

happens. I mean, I will. I like

42:59

the idea of being able to scan

43:01

for reference for myself, but I do

43:03

think that when I get the best

43:05

of the best, a drum scanner is

43:07

the best of the best way to

43:09

do it. And. That's. Like sixty

43:11

bucks a pop depending on who you go

43:13

to and back to the whole developing and

43:15

processing story. I mean, I just think when

43:18

you get the images back from the lab,

43:20

just compared to the modest one, see if

43:22

there's really much of a difference. Herbs isn't.

43:24

It looks pretty much the same, you know?

43:27

Hopefully they turn out that's really what I'll say

43:29

as hopefully they turn out ah I would. We

43:31

are disappointed if they don't turn out and if

43:33

I did something wrong I don't think I did

43:35

something wrong. So I think I followed the method.

43:38

I think my aperture and shutter speeds were were

43:40

proper. I think you play with that timer enough

43:42

before him. Oh, I did run into an issue

43:44

A D Run into a couple of issues. One,

43:46

I stepped on the field the first time and

43:48

I pull the bellows all the way out to.

43:50

that's what I thought I needed to do and

43:53

I lock it in the place and I realize

43:55

it will focus past like twenty seats. A won't

43:57

focus past twenty feet and had no more room and

43:59

on my. What do I do? What do

44:01

I do? So I tried something. I unlocked the

44:03

bellows and I moved it back half way. They

44:06

locked it back in and then I looked at

44:08

the cat and I looked at the ground glasses

44:10

like as I saw bits and that was it's

44:12

I had it's not extend the bellows thus far

44:15

and it works. So I did that. and then

44:17

another thing was when I press the table release

44:19

it got locked in the down position like locked

44:21

and I'm like what is going on. A nice

44:24

break British rule, a film student. Twenty frames a

44:26

second such as the besides the I unscrewed from

44:28

the front in the thing. stick. It out

44:30

like the red rocket you know have a

44:32

dog. it's like sticking out. Then I realized

44:34

that there's a switch on the plunger next

44:36

to the for the you that that came

44:39

and locked which then lock. sit down and

44:41

get a press the think it's a whole

44:43

to the whole thing but I figured it

44:45

out. But I mean that's the thing about

44:47

this this this project, the experiments is that

44:49

I don't know a lot. About.

44:52

The. Camera because there's not a lot to

44:54

do. You have to discover this stuff. Oh

44:56

yeah, trial and error. Saw a going through

44:58

all these processes that are manuals and I'm

45:01

discovering things and I'm figuring out how to

45:03

fix them on the fly and now I'll

45:05

share the results with you as soon as

45:07

I get something that hopefully turns out I

45:10

mean it really makes you realize how spoiled

45:12

we are with muralist technology these days. Especially

45:14

something like and a nine three were to

45:16

shooting fish in a barrel. The know it's

45:19

it's so. Easy. These

45:21

days to get a shot with

45:23

the autofocus, the frames per second,

45:25

everything. That was my reasoning for

45:27

changing it up this year for baseball

45:29

via his those shoot something different as

45:31

baseball becomes monotonous and ah I think

45:33

a degree what you do and I'm

45:35

really excited to see how many really

45:37

unique shots and angles you get with

45:39

this film projects. Yep! Limited travel

45:42

around a little bit see what I can capture

45:44

from. it's of see what portraits I think x

45:46

I think the more the player see me the

45:48

more I'll be able to and I'm going to

45:50

pronounce prince and give it to them. I was

45:52

gonna say i think they need to see the

45:54

final product and back and see what you're getting

45:56

with this and how unique these images arts and

45:58

they make a lie down. The up for in

46:00

a minor effect, they brought in America for the

46:02

national anthem. they're lining up to get their picture

46:05

taken through was a Big shoes Yeah, thats what

46:07

I think's gonna happen. I'm sorry, I'm going to

46:09

print a bunch of these and I'm going to

46:11

give him to the players and and then. You

46:14

know they'll be like wow, that's unique and

46:16

that's cool. Hopefully hopefully everything turns out so

46:18

I will keep you guys apprised of what's

46:20

happening. So now moving on. Remember when Steven

46:22

said storing with what's when you're talking during

46:25

April Fools fix about we're working on a

46:27

bunch of stuff. Were you referring to the

46:29

lenses Those Chinese? Well now and has no

46:31

I was basically hinting and joking around. That's

46:33

I was a saying hey, there's a lot

46:35

of stuff for work and home right now

46:38

just trying to get people like hyped up

46:40

to be like oh, maybe next week as

46:42

can be some major announcements Major. Houses

46:44

there. Were. Years as risk.

46:47

But. Let's let's move on to these

46:49

lenses. We filmed Spot Three videos yesterday

46:51

on what we like to call fourth

46:53

party Chinese lenses. We've got stuff from

46:56

Lauer, the Ten millimeter, Two Point Eight,

46:58

Autofocus for Nikon and for Sony, and

47:00

then we did a To.rocks or Thirty

47:02

Five One Eighth and at Eighty Five

47:05

One Aids. and yeah, what would you

47:07

think? Stephen. Ah, I've

47:09

never held them were try them out

47:11

until yesterday. pretty much since I will

47:13

say Obe. For what they offer for

47:15

the price, especially the Village Ross's the

47:17

Eighty Five one point eight full auto

47:19

focus for four hundred dollars, you really

47:22

can't beat that am. I also didn't

47:24

realize how many of these quote unquote

47:26

fourth party lenses these cheap. You know

47:28

how many of them there are. I

47:30

looked up to see if there was

47:32

any comparable lenses and there's probably another

47:34

seventy nine different versions of an Eighty

47:36

Five only. They come by for the.

47:38

Sunni email and they're all ranging from

47:40

anywhere from like two hundred and sixty

47:42

bucks to six hundred dollars. You know,

47:45

until you get to like Sigma Tamarins

47:47

which we consider kind of more third

47:49

party because. Time. On sick Marv

47:51

almost becoming like first party native lenses, especially

47:53

Sigma with their build quality these days. So

47:55

that's why we're referring to these as fourth

47:57

party lenses are. yeah, I was. Really?

48:00

Surprised at the quality that you're getting

48:02

out of these really cheap budget friendly

48:05

lenses. Yeah, every year after wait to

48:07

watch all of the reviews. But the

48:09

gist of it for me was. That.

48:13

What I'm looking for is is it Focusing.

48:15

At one point eight and nailing the I

48:17

because we have i am does that works

48:19

can attract some subjects and get pictures. You

48:21

know if you're shooting multiple frames is going

48:24

to be perfect for every one. The answer's

48:26

no, but it's a good enough for the

48:28

price. for a beginner who would do not

48:30

have dropped eight hundred dollars that for thirty

48:32

five year. He. Likes: drop eight hundred

48:34

fifty dollars for a Nikon Thirty five when you

48:36

can drop three seventy nine. I think the coatings

48:38

on these lenses the actual quality of the optics

48:41

are not to be up to par of likes

48:43

of like a T Master Lands, you know the

48:45

highest L lenses are. The excellence is from Ny

48:47

Times. I think the flair is probably going to

48:49

be tough, the chromatic aberration not going to be

48:52

great. No one can all that stuff but at

48:54

the end of the day the stuff and actually

48:56

matters like is it focusing and can keep up

48:58

and take a picture at one point Eight? that's

49:00

what matters. So a yeah I wish Beast Under

49:02

Lenses works. Around when I started out because

49:04

I wish I could buy like a fifty once

49:07

for a one eight the nifty fifty and that's

49:09

really it. until I started get into like the

49:11

L lenses but there wasn't much of an offering

49:13

back then. He. Says I've always

49:15

been like this: And as always

49:17

say if someone's looking at your pictures and

49:19

you got the shot no one's going to

49:21

be like oh than a chromatic aberration. Their

49:23

order the flaring that you got our like.

49:25

honestly if you compare directly to have very

49:27

high and lens like I said a dream

49:29

answer you're going to see or of probably

49:31

a big difference but for the most parts

49:33

if you're to showing it to as the

49:35

the average person they're going to that's greater

49:37

are seriously if you're showing it to me

49:39

it's still like unless you're pixel p banks

49:41

are sure good, sounds good, sounds good shot,

49:43

you're not going to really see the differences

49:45

too much and flower. That lens that is

49:47

the first ever auto focus lens from our

49:50

they usually just do manual and the fact

49:52

that you can get a tan millimeter fifths

49:54

prime for the as two point eight to

49:56

on top of that for either Nikon or

49:58

Sony That for ya some fun. It.

50:00

Not come at a price at eight hundred dollars,

50:02

but there's not much else out there besides like

50:04

the fourteen, the thirty Forty two, twenty four for

50:06

Nikon but like a ones like this I would

50:08

have killed for to have and I did cancer

50:11

photography because I couldn't ever get anything wider on

50:13

can in back of a day then like a

50:15

sixteen to thirty five. but you know we think

50:17

of the level twenty four and all of that

50:19

twenty sixteen. so before then I was I can

50:21

only see that sixteen and concerts. he really have

50:23

to go porter wide for some shots was the

50:25

when I was shooting at ten and a half

50:27

millimeters back in the day and I also had

50:29

as well millimeter. Fish I back in the day

50:32

I would see to it and I had a

50:34

circular eat more meat or fish I from Sigma

50:36

that was a piece of crap party but I

50:38

would just cropping and transform imposed to make it

50:40

look like a normal rectilinear ultra wide shots but

50:42

I had to make sure the subject was completely

50:45

in the center the frame because everything else was

50:47

super soft when you transform and obviously like you're

50:49

just stretching it. Let me say this and this

50:51

is like. Is it is

50:53

isn't bashing as a camera company or

50:56

anything, but being that I use to.

50:58

Ville. Trucks lenses one on an icon, one

51:00

on a Sony. I really

51:03

felt that that eighty five. On.

51:05

The Sony focused better and acquired

51:07

better than when I use the

51:09

Thirty Five Zilch Rocks which I'm

51:11

assuming is using the same algorithms

51:14

when it comes to that to

51:16

their auto focus on an icon.

51:18

I just felt more struggling on

51:20

the Nikon side then I did

51:22

with the lens on the Sony

51:24

side. It just felt. More

51:26

Critical Strike critically sharp with. The.

51:29

Sony front now stuff not matching and

51:31

Eighty Five on and on an icon

51:33

sides, but it's just. Even. Using

51:35

allow a lens that the ten millimeters

51:37

still have that same thing where feels

51:40

like it struggles more on there than

51:42

it did on the Cat on the

51:44

Sony. That's just an observation, that's that's

51:46

you know it's funny Stephen What it

51:49

on a global influence or end? People

51:51

forget the fact, not even forget the

51:53

fact but to really no need to

51:56

realize that we have used every camera

51:58

for the last fourteen years. Basically

52:00

that's ever been put up. every kind of that's

52:03

been put on the market with almost every single

52:05

lens, so there's very few people in this zero

52:07

brands. That's not true, but. Go on.

52:09

I'm not talking for on talk and

52:11

nights on Can and Sony. yeah right

52:13

now of America. Course not fourteen years

52:15

for still as fourteen years for for

52:17

Saudis. but people needed to to realize

52:19

that there's very few people photographers that

52:21

have used every single systems as extensively

52:23

as you and I have used those

52:25

systems And this is a reason I

52:27

say that is I'm running into the

52:29

sports shooters at the Phillies now who

52:31

have switched over to using a nice

52:33

Breeze and are like it's night and

52:35

day autofocus between the A one and

52:37

the A nine. Three says. They are

52:39

now saying wow what? but but it's it's

52:42

it's because it's it's got the acquisition. It

52:44

actually finds the subject new processor with a

52:46

newsletter to Texan yell at ago do you

52:48

guys now see what I've been saying for

52:51

the last bunch of years about the Cannon

52:53

System. Whether was the are five, the are

52:55

six, the are Six mark to the are

52:57

three, These the focusing systems in these things

53:00

already. We're doing this and it took them

53:02

to get there with the A nine. The

53:04

do as far as you had. great autofocus.

53:07

You. Did and now you see it matters.

53:09

I say it can and has always had

53:11

the head detection, the torso detection, the actual

53:13

full on subject detection so when the subject

53:16

would turn, it would still stay locked on

53:18

their head where Sony would. Change.

53:20

Into that like three tracking modes the lock

53:22

on tracking when it would turn and still

53:24

lock on the head but it wouldn't really

53:27

detect that that was a human beings. And

53:29

now with that new ah Ai processor from

53:31

me a seminar fi that of now mean

53:33

I'm three is is fully detecting everything. The

53:35

difference is that Sony marketed as again a

53:38

dedicated Ai Prices are work can and just

53:40

cause it's their did expects processor and that

53:42

yet we know they may have had more

53:44

hype around it to be honest but they

53:46

really and. Now. But it it

53:49

just it just works really well Which leads

53:51

us into the last thing to talk about

53:53

this week is ah can it's gotta be

53:55

ready to drop The are one of the

53:57

are five mark to. The. Gotta

53:59

be. And and a cannon rumors

54:01

has been say and that. May.

54:04

Is gonna be May when the

54:06

are five mark to gets released.

54:09

Yeah, I mean it's saw a better time

54:11

soon because as they're probably working on the

54:13

a one too busy. Nine to all that's

54:15

and this is a critical moment for time

54:17

and again. Will this be another side? The

54:20

mark for moment Words barely an update or

54:22

an upgrade. Or will they his ah park

54:24

like the are six or five yet it

54:26

you know gone back to that that five.

54:29

The mark for from the five the mark

54:31

three to five. the mercury was fantastic and

54:33

the of are you referring that rate because

54:35

it it basically combined the seventy with the

54:37

five be more to. And made it into

54:40

the Five Be More three with a faster focusing,

54:42

faster frame rate, faster everything up. But yeah, Five

54:44

The More For was such an incremental update that

54:46

it was already outdated right off the that. There

54:49

was a minor things that they could have done that would have

54:51

made it better and just one of those was taking out the

54:53

compact last card for the way I'm one of I saved him

54:55

or for. The. Anyone want to wanna do

54:57

that before? More fun the photographer get with cameras

54:59

com is foods that with will talk about when

55:02

those cameras do come in but more fund the

55:04

photographer stuff is on the way I'm. So.

55:07

Are the if he didn't check out what

55:09

I did recently go on Instagram couple posts

55:11

back I did fund a foot I did

55:13

get another photographer of a one the x

55:15

mark to and we did I I filled

55:17

it with a us with a camera and

55:19

someone was taking pictures of me and I

55:21

will will get their cut up and posted

55:23

at some point. but yeah just was the.

55:26

Giving someone who was deserving of it and

55:28

and ninjas upgrading their gear is kind of

55:30

course armed. but the the Vr five mark

55:32

to doesn't have a lot of place to

55:35

go to to make it even better. Like

55:37

that's the thing. I think the difference between

55:39

each the five, the Mark three the five

55:41

be marked for. I mean there was gonna

55:43

be incremental. There wasn't much they could change

55:46

their and with the this is like to

55:48

go with a new sensor. Do you? What

55:50

do you make better right? You update the

55:52

autofocus. What can you do to make this

55:54

camera better than what it already. Is I

55:56

just think they really need to give it

55:58

their all. But the. The time. How do

56:01

they differentiate it from the Are One? You

56:03

know they still need to give it a

56:05

time, but make the Are one better at

56:07

the same time. Actually, yeah, I mean you

56:09

talk about the Z Nine and the Z

56:11

Eight are like Dizzy Eight is like and

56:13

are Five in that line as a more

56:15

than Ninety Nine just in a nearby body

56:17

by so I can't see can and doing

56:19

that I'd be very sad. The difference also

56:21

is that as he came out a year

56:23

later. Yeah. Why know?

56:25

A lot of sports suitors are still using

56:27

the Are Five and they love. It's partly

56:29

because they have the crop option because it's

56:32

forty five megapixels, but they love using that

56:34

camera so it is a big and you

56:36

can shoot it with the. Without.

56:38

Them but what doesn't have a mere but

56:40

you could shoot it electronically and still get

56:42

very good results. I think if they update

56:44

the sensor it's gonna be an even faster

56:46

readout speeds. I don't know if they will go

56:49

to a stack said circus then what happens

56:51

with the are three line is that just a

56:53

once, one and done are three. but the or

56:55

once they got to throw the kitchen sink at

56:57

it, they do. It's gotta be it's it's gotta

57:00

be one of those. Massive.

57:02

Updates: This is a new sense I guess. You.

57:05

Know what did I mean? So it's gotta be

57:07

in a nine three moment for them. Global Shutter.

57:09

Hundred twenty frames per second Preceding all of that,

57:11

I don't think it needs to be governor. I

57:14

don't think they're going to do that, but the

57:16

need to make a big splash like the aim

57:18

of really in terms of and marketing and stuff

57:20

like that. I think they're going to have some

57:23

kind of censor tech that's going to be that's

57:25

going to mimic a global shutter in terms of

57:27

how fast the readout is, but it will still

57:29

be a traditional Seema Stack censor. Ah, I'm not

57:31

hindering on the dynamic range any high so capability.

57:34

I. Think and and and desist are lot of

57:36

the sports years with love Like a thirty three

57:38

megapixel camera. Again, I think thirty three is great

57:41

because it's so many on spot as you can

57:43

still do ha. On top of that. Wasn't.

57:45

The Are Thirty Three make it of. The

57:47

Are had the same proc the same censor

57:49

as the of society Martha. We're pretty sure

57:51

Thirty Three Yeah, You're. Right? So

57:53

if they can do a thirty

57:56

three stacked. Great high Iso capability,

57:58

great auto focus ring. We

58:00

good video features pre shooting

58:02

Ah the A pre pre

58:05

capture those things. That. New

58:07

or autofocus, you know what? That

58:09

mills no matter what is what's

58:11

the com was I a multi

58:13

integrated live auto Folk are no

58:15

multi integrated lives focusing system. Bf.

58:17

Mills for our sure it was know for sure

58:19

said they can put that in there are you

58:22

know that us are was thirty mega pixel not

58:24

thirty three because and about. Stealth is

58:26

is any the outside. I'm happy with Twenty

58:28

Four. Thirty is going to be thirty when

58:30

I am. I like the reason I say

58:32

thirty three as a the fact we can

58:34

still do you. It's the Ak. Yeah, well

58:36

I think thirties I think. Let's see. let's

58:38

let's say the things maybe thirty three megapixels

58:40

and just. Be. A stunner. It

58:42

has to be a stunner. But

58:45

also I think they will be some disappointment is

58:47

has it's taken so long it's taken a while

58:49

to get a flagship out but then when you

58:51

start using it you're gonna be like. I don't

58:53

know what else they could have done better at

58:55

this point. I just think that's what it's gonna

58:57

end up being. I also think they can't just

58:59

catch up with the competition. I think they need

59:01

to do more and introduce some new technology and

59:03

really make a big I still think they're they're

59:05

ahead in some ways of even though he you

59:08

know buddhism and again they might be ahead for

59:10

a few months and then and a want who

59:12

gets announced and who knows what that's him obese

59:14

or I don't I night. And I'll the Nikon

59:16

is anywhere near putting out another camera I

59:18

don't think Nikon has the ability to replace.

59:20

There's the Nine right now, as do there's

59:22

the A Z. Nine came out in October

59:24

of Twenty Twenty One. since two and a

59:26

half years old, They're not replacing

59:28

that thing for at least two years. At.

59:31

Least two years you're saying it'll

59:33

it'll be for half years. Until

59:35

new, Yes. Yes, And I

59:38

in in less they decide to do

59:40

like and a Knife sorry a Z,

59:42

Nine As or something where it's just

59:44

minor incremental updates through are they just

59:46

released new firmware six Point Know and

59:48

them as Mimic and Poets is a

59:50

new cameras but. I don't think

59:52

they can, I just don't think they will have

59:54

now anytime soon, the a one on the other

59:56

hand is three and a half years. He.

59:58

So that is getting. Very long

1:00:00

in the tooth and that update cycle is probably

1:00:03

ready. Yeah. That one's probably ready to

1:00:05

come, but I don't know what that things going

1:00:07

to bring, even if they decide to go that

1:00:09

direction for curious it can be really interesting. Twenty

1:00:11

Twenty four with all these new cameras at the

1:00:13

I can be a big year for can and

1:00:15

hopefully I think we're in a C. New flagships

1:00:17

from Sony and I don't know what Nikon going

1:00:19

to bring. I mean busy. Six three I think

1:00:21

that hopefully will make a. Big. Splash

1:00:23

for them to, but figure,

1:00:25

what about Panasonic? Yeah,

1:00:28

who knows. I honestly don't know a ton

1:00:30

about Panasonic, so I can't really comment. Well

1:00:32

we we we had a conversation recently.

1:00:34

turd start getting some Panasonic stuff and

1:00:36

again because they are one of the

1:00:38

only L mounted cameras that exist that

1:00:40

isn't a lighter. I mean they they

1:00:42

are the other one right? And so

1:00:44

we always get asked by Sigma do

1:00:47

you want to l mount doom? Whatever.

1:00:49

And so I would like to start

1:00:51

getting some of those L mount lenses

1:00:53

in and I That means I need

1:00:55

and L mount cameras. it's it's capable

1:00:57

of doing that. And after talking to

1:00:59

Panasonic and getting an understanding of where

1:01:01

their mindset is, There not like we

1:01:03

want to challenge everybody on shooting at thirty

1:01:05

frames a second. When it comes to stills,

1:01:07

their focus heavily on what they do great

1:01:10

which is the video side of it and

1:01:12

so he'll be interesting to see. How

1:01:14

can they progress in an industry that is

1:01:17

taken up by cannons are in in a

1:01:19

in a consumer market because Panasonic has a

1:01:21

pro line. that's the hope that people still

1:01:23

use. I always had and and they've always

1:01:25

had those p two cards and all that

1:01:27

stuff back in the days but. What?

1:01:30

Are they bringing out to they want to

1:01:32

challenge the consumer end when it comes to

1:01:34

videos and. I need to get

1:01:36

educated on the product to. Get

1:01:39

it in hands, learn it and see what

1:01:41

they can do. I mean they did a

1:01:43

great job with the the As Five Two

1:01:45

and and with Nikon speaking a video like

1:01:47

I'm really curious with that Reddick acquisition what

1:01:49

that's gonna brings to the line? I think

1:01:51

that's still gonna be many years away now.

1:01:54

Or will they have a separate cinema division

1:01:56

now with so incorporating read technology or will

1:01:58

they just incorporated into the regular hybrid. Still

1:02:00

cameras. The. Up. For.

1:02:03

I'd stephen we should rafi make rapper some this

1:02:05

thing up right now cause do know why. Because.

1:02:08

You're a global influence or have a neuron anywhere,

1:02:10

but you gotta go by my sixth property. I'm

1:02:12

just kidding. I'm not. Gonna

1:02:15

got I was that when I he saved his they want to

1:02:17

get a guy be like Stephen I'm. The

1:02:19

I'm actually I'm looking at another property at and

1:02:21

tell you about we're going to move. The idea

1:02:23

of nothing surprises me anymore. Man I have been

1:02:25

through that like two or three times now. Serves

1:02:28

as fear to count down the days until the

1:02:30

next one I use it. I'll tell you know

1:02:32

you know tell me sit on my they were.

1:02:35

Somos. Been a year when did I buy

1:02:37

this The end of May? ah a movie

1:02:39

no mayo and you actually got a but

1:02:41

we didn't move and until like the week

1:02:43

my daughter august born so zog like August

1:02:45

yeah I remember his I was in Paris

1:02:47

this time last year I was in Paris

1:02:49

this time last er cuz again I'm a

1:02:51

global influence or and so I was there.

1:02:53

I remember because he got it may and

1:02:55

and I remember thinking like we had all

1:02:57

this time to move in are going to

1:02:59

move in the week before my daughter's borne

1:03:01

by the anyway guys thought this episode number

1:03:03

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Please give us a five star rating and else

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would you think. Yes, So

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let's say like next week Stephen

1:03:52

the Phillies get back on Thursday

1:03:55

with home games Smith see they

1:03:57

play Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday

1:03:59

Tuesday. Wednesday. I think it's

1:04:01

like riding and are always Sundays.

1:04:03

That's one, two, three, four, five,

1:04:06

six seven, eight nine, Ten games

1:04:08

and awful. ten games and eleven

1:04:10

days at home. Wow, that's so

1:04:12

what would be good with the

1:04:14

for by five thing is I

1:04:16

gotta ask the guy who does

1:04:18

a developing if he lives in.

1:04:20

Silly because my body Steve told

1:04:22

me that he used to drop

1:04:24

off his film to the guy

1:04:26

who did the processing name The

1:04:28

same guy. That does the processing

1:04:31

and delaware's that if I could just drop it

1:04:33

to him every day it's he would be easier

1:04:35

because he wouldn't have to change his chemicals out

1:04:37

or so it would be more efficient for hims

1:04:40

devices. Just meet him and drop it off to

1:04:42

him after each game. You. Know maybe

1:04:44

not the end of the game but the

1:04:46

next day before he leaves for work the

1:04:48

other Barry way but that way he wouldn't

1:04:50

have to like as he doesn't want me

1:04:52

to hold to have sixty negatives at once.

1:04:54

the the Us to do could be they're

1:04:56

developing forever so if I take like ten

1:04:58

six storing a game I could. Give.

1:05:00

It to him the next day he could

1:05:03

take it down and he can do the

1:05:05

processing. or or I could do the processing.

1:05:07

So let's wrap it up steam and let's

1:05:09

do it Or guys, thank you very much

1:05:11

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