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Global Story brings you fresh takes
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and smart perspectives from BBC journalists
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around the world. Find us wherever
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you get your podcasts. While
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Oppenheimer triumphed at the Academy Awards
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this week, we're in New Mexico
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to hear a lesser-known side of
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the atomic bomb story. In
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the jungles of Panama, we find out how
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a small rusted ruler and
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five extra feet can tell us
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so much about the global economy.
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And in southern Spain, we're
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in Seville for the annual
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Lent procession, alongside a life-size
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figure of Christ resplendent in
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purple velvet robe and shining
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gilded halo. First,
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it's a year since the UK
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and France struck a new, extended
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deal to try and stop the
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small boats crossing the Channel. The
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British government is giving the French
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almost half a billion pounds over
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three years to spend on high-tech
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solutions like drones and
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increased police patrols on the beaches.
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While there were fewer crossings last year, the number
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of migrants who've been there has been a huge
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difference. died trying to reach the
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UK has continued to rise. So
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will more money make a difference?
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Our correspondent Andrew Harding reports from
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Northern France. When
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it comes to Calais, those long
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empty beaches, the plaintive screech of
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seagulls, I should declare a
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bias. From the age of
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eight and throughout my childhood, I
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would travel by ferry from Calais to
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Dover at the beginning of every term.
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My family lived in Belgium and I
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was sent for my sins to
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a British boarding school, which
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perhaps explains the tinge of gloom,
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of home thickness, that claws
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at me now as I drive through the
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fields of Northern France under a lead grey
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sky towards the coast. Not
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that Calais itself helps to
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lighten the mood. The fences
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start before you even reach
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the suburbs, meandering miles of
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tall white barriers, razor wire,
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cameras. It feels, and
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this isn't just me talking, a local mayor said
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exactly the same thing, like
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you're entering a prison. Or
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maybe there's even an echo of the World War
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One trenches that scarred the
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nearby countryside more than a century
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ago. Either way, it's
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now more than two decades since people
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first started turning up here in large
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numbers, hoping to find a
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way to cross the English Channel to
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enter the UK illegally. And
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the impact of that big surge of
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migration, a surge that has swerved and
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twisted like a stream trying to find
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its way past each new obstacle, is
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now carved into the landscape
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here. There are those
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fences, of course, around the big harbours,
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the entrance to the Channel Tunnel at
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Saint-Gatte, the approach roads for the big
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lorries that people have tried to clamber
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into or onto or under. Britain
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has spent a lot of money, is
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still spending a lot of money, to
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help France guard those big strategic points.
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And you could say it's been a
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successful investment. Those routes are now.
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More or less closed off, But.
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Then. Inevitably, bats people
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began to look elsewhere. A
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first from around Twenty seven T
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that involves going to local sports
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shops and buying flimsy little kayaks,
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but it quickly became clear that
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something more substantial would be needed,
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which of course meant something more
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expensive. And so
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with the remorseless mathematical logic
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came the equation. Demand
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plus investment times illegality
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he calls the mafia.
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Which. Is what the coastline here
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has been experiencing ever since.
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As the small both crisis
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has evolved into a multi
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million pound criminal industry and
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equally inevitably the smugglers who
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provoked a response. A new
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multi million pound security industry
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completed thrones dune buggies, more
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cameras and a lot more
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border police. Last. Week
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I went to Win Aura, a small
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town South Carolina which has become one
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of the most popular places for the
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smugglers to lose their but. Most.
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Evenings when the weather in the
5:10
season com you'll see small groups
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arriving at the local train station.
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People from Syria, Iraq, Sudan and
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elsewhere. Whole family's to walking through
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town of a north towards the
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dunes to wait until dark for
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the gangs to arrive with their
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inflatable boats or for what's known
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as taxi bugs to come in
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from the see to fetch them
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and take them out to other
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small bug. In January five
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people drown to a New Jersey in
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the center of winner. When. He
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talked to the French police. They tend
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to focus. On the criminality and
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culpability the smugglers much like the
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British government does in their view
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the smugglers are entirely to blame
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for the deaths for overloading flimsy
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but for the way this whole
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coastline has like kelly be militarized
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response the migrant crisis but when
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he talked to families out strongly
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on the beach or to the
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town's mayor you get a very
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different perspective. It's not, but
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they approve of the smokers, but
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they tend to focus on the
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suffering and desperation of the ghosts
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figures drifting through that community willing
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to risk their lives to reached
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over and they blame mostly. Britain.
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Firstly, For what they perceive
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as it's loosely regulated jobs market
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which seems to be such a
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big you're there are strict punishments
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for hiring illegal workers in the
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Uk, but also because of the
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success with which Britain has an
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effect transplanted it's national border here
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on the French territory and resentment
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is building here because the more
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the French police patrol that coastline
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and the more the coast is
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militarized, the more the problem spreads.
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Further down the coast, even
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inland. And here we come
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to another awkward equation: Of
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the number of crossings did
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fool last. Yes, the journey
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itself is becoming more dangerous,
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and yes, the migrants remain
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as determined as ever. all
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of which adds up to
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a rising death toll. This.
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Year already. it's nine compared with
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Twelve Ten. For the whole of
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Twenty Twenty three. This
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month, a seven year old Iraq
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eagles drowned in a canal thirty
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kilometers from the See. The smugglers
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had put twenty people, ten of
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them children into a boat the
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size of a family car. Andrew
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Harding. In the
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coming days India will be calling
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national. Elections With nearly a
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billion people eligible to cast
7:46
ballots, thirteen will take place
7:48
over several weeks. So many
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expect Prime Minister Narendra Modi
7:52
to win a third consecutive
7:54
term in office, thanks in
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part to his Hindu nationalist
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strategy of. Supposing face with
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politics or South Asia correspondent
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Samirah has same has been
8:06
in Hindi heartland. With
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as both widespread support for Mr.
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Moody's B J P as well
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as so so fractures. At
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the few concrete stairs in the street, I
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sit inside a dimly lit shop. The.
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Early morning light casting shadows on the
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regulars who come in each day for
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tea and company. A middle
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aged man sits on cushions at the front of
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the stall and poor's steaming hot in the summer
8:30
tie into several cuts laid out in front of
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him. Sitting. On stools or customers
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waiting for the caffeine to wake and
8:37
warm them up on this silly weekday
8:39
morning. This tea stall and
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that an Rc in North India not
8:43
far from the banks of the Holy
8:45
Ganges River with made famous by a
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visit from India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi
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a few years earlier. This.
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Is also Mr. Modi? hum Constituency,
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a place he once called the
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cradle of India's glorious culture. I
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strike up a conversation with a
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few patrons. All men are want
9:02
to know more about. Mr. Modi
9:04
is enduring popularity. One. Man
9:06
tells me about the newly paved roads
9:08
outside his home and that there is
9:11
now regular garbage collection in his neighborhood.
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For him, there is no question that
9:15
he will vote for Mr. Modi again.
9:17
Another man chimes in to tell me
9:19
about the Prime Minister's welfare schemes that
9:21
he is providing food and cooking gas
9:23
to millions of people in the country.
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That hungry used to be a problem
9:28
in India, but it is no longer.
9:30
He adds that many of the benefits
9:32
are not new. One political strategist tells
9:34
me they have just been. Presented repackaged
9:37
as a benefit coming directly
9:39
from. The Prime minister. Beneficiaries.
9:41
Become a little more indebted to Mr.
9:43
Modi, thinking him in the polling booth.
9:46
It is that spin on the messages
9:48
that makes Mr. Modi seemed unstoppable in
9:50
the upcoming general elections. Even for the
9:53
men at the tea stall who do
9:55
not receive the benefits, there is a
9:57
belief that hunger is no longer a
9:59
problem. India. Oh thanks to the
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Modi government. The. Reality is that
10:04
millions of people in this country still do
10:06
not get enough to eat. As
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the conversations continue, I ask about a
10:10
recent court decision that allows Hindu worshippers
10:12
to pray in the basement of the
10:15
local Genvec Be Mosque, about twenty minutes
10:17
away from where I'm sitting. The
10:19
mosque was built by the muzzle ruler or
10:21
unsaid back in the seventeenth century. Many.
10:24
Hindus believe it replaced the temple
10:26
dedicated to the gods shiver. The.
10:28
Court decision came as part of
10:30
a broader push to reclaim places
10:32
of worship by believers in a
10:35
particular kind of Hindu nationalism called
10:37
Hindutva. Prime. Minister and
10:39
his ruling party, the Bj. Peace
10:41
has been pursuing a Hindu nationalist
10:43
agenda since coming into power in
10:45
Twenty Four team. It
10:47
is this brand of nationalism that was
10:49
the driver behind the demolition of the
10:51
sixteenth century mosque in a yoga thirty
10:53
years ago. In it's place
10:56
now stands a grand Hindu temple
10:58
dedicated to Lord Rub. Inaugurated.
11:00
by the prime minister himself back in
11:02
January. Now. The gun. But
11:05
the mosque in Mr. Moody's constituency
11:07
is under threat, leaving believers and
11:09
hindered by emboldened but members of
11:11
the Muslim community bereft for their
11:13
future In Prime Minister Narendra Modi
11:15
is India. Really offended
11:17
by my questions. One man at the tea
11:19
stall demands to know if I am Hindu
11:21
or if I am Muslim. And
11:23
taken aback by the christian. He's
11:25
not interested in my long and
11:27
tortured relationship with good. He wants
11:29
to know my allegiance. I. Tell
11:31
him that Macys has nothing to do with my
11:33
journalism. Somewhat. Placate it by
11:35
my response, he begins to express his
11:38
decision. Since India's inception, it
11:40
has been a Hindu country. He tells
11:42
me. A supporter of Hindutva,
11:44
this man becomes more animated as he
11:46
tells me that it is only Muslims
11:48
that feels that demise that people of
11:51
other faiths and the country or not.
11:53
But. People like him are continuously
11:56
asks the question, what about
11:58
muslims. The Bgp guy. It
12:00
has made Hindu nationalism a backbone of
12:02
their political agenda. The impact
12:04
is not just been felt by
12:06
the two hundred million Muslims living
12:09
in India, the country's largest minority
12:11
group. The advocacy groups Human Rights
12:13
Watch said in a recent appeared
12:15
that the discriminatory and to visit
12:17
policies has led to increased violence
12:20
against minorities, creating a pervasive impairment
12:22
of fear. But. Divisive politics
12:24
has netted the prime minister
12:26
electoral success. Although. It
12:28
may have been my first experience in
12:31
India of having my identity questioned, but
12:33
as the country embark on a national
12:35
election, I suspect it won't be the
12:37
last. Some. Era has
12:39
same as widely predicted, the
12:42
film Oppenheimer about the creator
12:44
of the Atomic Bomb dominated
12:46
the Oscars with seven The
12:48
Kind Of Me awards. It
12:50
tells the story of the Manhattan Project.
12:53
During the Second World War
12:55
when scientists developed the bombs
12:57
that were eventually detonated over
12:59
Japan. Much as a
13:01
film is set in the town of Los
13:03
Alamos. In New Mexico where
13:06
assist Assist J. Robert Oppenheimer
13:08
carried out his research and
13:11
mythology reports on the lasting
13:13
effect on local communities. Is
13:16
you drive through the New Mexico desert,
13:18
you can see why Jay Robert Oppenheimer
13:21
chose this location. To bring together a
13:23
group of brilliant scientific brains. It's.
13:25
Remote and beautiful. There a gigantic
13:28
red rock. Practise: Stretch out
13:30
beneath. The snow covered Sangre de
13:32
Cristo Mountains named because of the blood
13:34
red color they turn at sunset. And.
13:37
Of course, there was little chance of being
13:39
discovered here when secrecy was of the utmost
13:41
importance. A. Good place to
13:43
inspire scientists to free their imaginations
13:45
in the pursuit of scientific. Breakthroughs.
13:49
But as were admiring the stunning
13:51
landscapes, it has a chilling undertone.
13:54
The creation of the atomic bomb caused the
13:56
deaths of more than two hundred thousand people
13:58
in Japan. It's hard
14:00
to comprehend. We know
14:02
those horrors weighed heavily on Oppenheimer's
14:04
mind. His legacy lives
14:06
on here in many ways because
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Los Alamos is still home to
14:11
a laboratory making components for America's
14:13
modern nuclear weapons. They produce the
14:15
plutonium cause used in warheads and
14:17
just like in Oppenheimer's time, many
14:19
residents here today a top scientists.
14:22
At the side of the rocky road
14:24
as a single black and white billboard
14:27
with a quote from Pope Francis on
14:29
the Seventy fifth Anniversary of Hiroshima. It
14:31
says the possession of nuclear weapons is
14:34
immoral. The staff at the
14:36
lab must drive past is often so as
14:38
we approach I wonder if this going to
14:40
be a rather solemn air about the place.
14:43
Actually, we find quite the opposite. We get
14:45
chatting to a handful of locals walking their
14:47
dogs at the park in town. As soon
14:49
as it hits Monday, they invite us over
14:52
to the local brewery where we sit in
14:54
the sunshine enjoying a drink on the outdoor
14:56
tables. Were drinking town with a science. Problem.
14:59
They say and proudly quote the
15:01
statistic. That Los Alamos. apparently it's has
15:03
the highest number of Phds per capita
15:05
in the Us. I can't help thinking
15:08
their local pub quiz must be quite
15:10
something. There's a picture of Oppenheimer on
15:12
T shirt sold by the hipster brewery,
15:14
and a colorful graffiti style mural of
15:16
the physicists decorate the wall outside the
15:19
bar. Many of the town's
15:21
residents were extras in the film, so he
15:23
also his stories about rubbing shoulders with the
15:25
stars. Los Alamos has been inundated
15:28
with visitors since the film's release, and
15:30
the town is embracing it. I
15:32
can see they're certainly not diminishing the terrible
15:34
events of World War Two, but they've found
15:36
a way to be proud of the work
15:39
of Oppenheimer that went beyond the development of
15:41
a nuclear weapon. He brought
15:43
about some more collaborative approach to science
15:45
them before, something that is arguably benefited
15:48
the world in many ways since. But
15:50
it's impossible to ignore the fact that
15:52
the work that goes on in Los
15:55
Alamos still deeply divides opinion. The laps
15:57
production of plutonium components is being increased.
16:00
As the Usa updates has nuclear
16:02
weapons. Anti. War Campaign As
16:04
according for nuclear production here to
16:06
end and failed Oppenheimer the film
16:08
serves as a warning the only
16:10
strengthens that cause. But
16:12
some say the film revealed nothing of
16:14
the bombs other legacy. Communities.
16:17
Nearby known the Downwind as claim
16:19
they continue to suffer high rates
16:21
of cancer because of Oppenheimer's test
16:23
destination known as the Trinity Test
16:26
conducted in the New Mexico Desert.
16:29
We. Drive a couple of hours south to
16:31
Albuquerque where I'm eighteen. a cold over. She
16:34
reels off a list of relatives who died
16:36
from cancer as he flicked through an old
16:38
family photo album in her kitchen. Both.
16:40
My great grandfather's had cancer. My
16:42
two grandmothers had cancer. My father
16:44
had three different cancers. My sister
16:46
had cancer. tells me she's lost
16:48
count of the aunts and uncles
16:50
who had cancer. And her family's
16:52
not unique. Campaign. Is like
16:55
tina. have been trying to get the
16:57
Us government to include New Mexico's Downwind
16:59
A communities in a compensation scheme for
17:02
people affected by exposure to radiation. The
17:05
Radiation Exposure Compensation Act was due to
17:07
expire and June, but this week the
17:09
Senate passed the bells and a bipartisan
17:12
boat that will extend the program meaning
17:14
family's a New Mexico will have more
17:16
time to apply. Last
17:18
weekend as I stood on the red carpet
17:20
in L A covering the Oscars, I thought
17:22
about the residence in the town of Los
17:24
Alamos. He will likely be celebrating. And
17:27
Oppenheimer's overall legacy. But
17:29
along with their new same residents
17:31
of Los Alamos will have to
17:33
contend with forever being synonymous with one
17:36
of the most terrible events in history.
17:38
A beautiful place to live and work,
17:40
but a place that continues to arouse
17:43
suspicion. And on these. Am
17:45
of Audi. In recent
17:47
months, global shipping has been
17:49
severely disrupted by sushi attacks
17:51
on ships heading to the
17:53
Suez Canal far the Red
17:55
Sea, across the Atlantic, the
17:57
other canal vital to international.
18:00
Trade The Panama Canal is
18:02
also suffering major problems. This
18:05
sort cup between the Pacific.
18:07
And Atlantic is one of the world's most.
18:09
Essential Shipping Routes. Without
18:12
it cargo ships have to head. For
18:14
Cape Horn and sail around South
18:16
America. But. Sila vessels are
18:18
now getting through the canal says
18:21
me self serving in Panama. A.
18:24
Big part of my job is measurement.
18:26
The many efforts to quantify so and
18:28
economy is performing. These
18:30
measurements can be very complicated,
18:32
alarmingly detailed, and absurdly full
18:34
of deal. Did you know
18:36
fancy? Diving into what twenty five basis
18:38
points added. To the federal funds rate means
18:41
I don't blame me. But. Sometimes
18:43
one simple, crude measure can tell
18:45
us so much. About will
18:47
everyone's wealth and prosperity. These.
18:50
Days it's roughly five feet. That counts
18:52
as big news for the global economy.
18:55
Lake Get Sued is. A. Vast reservoir
18:57
in the middle of the jungles of Panama.
19:00
Motoring, Across it in a small
19:02
boat takes his past large freighters turning
19:04
up the water. That makes
19:07
for a choppy thirty minute. Ride to pull
19:09
off at a small Dog when
19:11
Nelson Gara points towards a rusted
19:13
ruler beneath a tower on the
19:15
water's edge. As you
19:17
can see the level is eighty one point
19:19
twenty feet he says jabbing his finger at
19:21
it. Know from
19:23
Strolled is also about measurement.
19:26
He misses water levels constantly.
19:28
He's the Panama Canal Authorities
19:30
hydrologist. The. Level said be
19:33
around five feet higher. he says of
19:35
the drought stricken lake. Only.
19:37
Five feet. But. They have
19:39
big implications the global trade because as
19:41
a result of low water levels that
19:44
like a tune, the number of sips
19:46
allowed to pass through the Panama Canal
19:48
each day has been cut by a
19:50
third. Still a question next at me.
19:52
How is it possible for this vital
19:55
waterway surrounded by oceans to be running
19:57
dry? Wearing bright
19:59
spectacle. And a warm smile.
20:01
The Canal Authorities historian Orlando
20:03
Acosta provides the answer. Is
20:06
the only ocean channel in the world that
20:08
works with freshwater. In. The
20:10
Canals Library in Panama City Surrounded
20:12
by artifacts of the canals construction
20:14
in the early nineteen hundreds. Orlando.
20:17
Tells me that the original design was
20:19
for a passage at sea level. But.
20:22
That was too difficult to build.
20:25
Then as now businessmen wanted to sit
20:27
goods quickly between the Atlantic and Pacific
20:29
oceans to save time and money. Having
20:32
a quick and easy route connecting the to
20:34
to Panama saves of weeks of travel around
20:36
the tip of South America. Said.
20:39
The And News came up with
20:41
the idea of using a series
20:43
of looks like the ones in
20:45
small domestic canals but much bigger
20:47
which move water on whatever is
20:49
floating on it up eighty five
20:51
feet above sea level. The
20:53
mirror Flores look is the first on
20:55
the Pacific side. They're a little after
20:58
sunrise. The clang of a bell cuts
21:00
through the early morning com. A
21:02
warning that a sip is about to pass
21:04
through it's middle gate. I
21:07
turned to see and illness square slab
21:09
like turquoise call carrier entering the lock.
21:12
So. Tall that it costs a set of
21:14
across the dog. With
21:16
only a couple of feet clearance on either side,
21:18
water gases into the blue with the chamber. Each.
21:21
Sip uses around sixty million gallons
21:23
of water to pass. Freshwater.
21:27
That comes from Lake Good Soon and
21:29
the smaller Lake Lf Weller Lake that
21:31
according to Nelson's ruler of drying up.
21:35
The Canals Seats Sustainability Officer Ilya Espina
21:37
Dumber Author: Blinds Climate Change for the
21:40
current Squeeze. She says the past he
21:42
has been the second dryness years in
21:44
The Canals. One hundred and ten year
21:46
history. That there is an
21:49
urgent hump, the solutions and away including
21:51
new reservoirs, more efficient use of water
21:53
even attempt to make it rain more.
21:57
The. Sheep in front of us. The Don Quixote
21:59
is traveling from you're Up to the United
22:01
States before going on to Asia. I'm
22:04
reminded just how much of what we buy.
22:06
Is transported by water. A
22:09
good portion of it on sit through
22:11
the Panama Canal. Much. Of
22:13
our food come through here to. Like.
22:15
The Soybeans grown by Christian Good,
22:17
a sixth generation pharma from Macon,
22:20
Mississippi who recently visited. The Canal
22:22
as part of the trade group. In.
22:24
A light southern drawl, He tells
22:26
me this route allows Us farmers
22:29
to sell soybeans to countries like
22:31
China and Japan quickly and inexpensively.
22:34
Without. This ups and it costs much
22:36
more to get his produce. the market
22:38
and customers end up paying much more
22:40
for their food. We. Reflect
22:43
that. To stand by the Panama Canal is
22:45
to see how fragile the links in the
22:47
chain. Of global trade can be and
22:49
how five extra feet can make all
22:51
the difference. Necessary.
22:55
Finally, we're in the middle
22:57
of lint season of fasting,
22:59
repentance and reflection, echoing the
23:01
story of Christ's forty days
23:03
of temptation in the desert
23:06
across Europe. Many Christian. Communities
23:08
hold public events to market
23:10
with one of the most
23:12
elaborate held in civilians southern
23:15
Spain. Seville is renowned for
23:17
the spectacle of it's processions.
23:19
During Easter week but Lent to
23:21
has it's rituals Poly Hope joined
23:24
the crush of and the Say
23:26
schools on a procession through the
23:28
city. A have
23:30
spread through the cathedral. The. Usual
23:33
hubbub of tour guides lecturing, the
23:35
clicks and pings, a smartphone, cameras
23:37
and visitor chested. And they do.
23:40
The. Crowds looked on usually son
23:42
the and tourists still wandering through
23:44
in a sundress so shorts despite
23:47
the signs banning skimpy attire but
23:49
most people would dressed for serious
23:51
business. Men: In.jackets and
23:54
ties Women: informal and
23:56
modest outfits. Night. had
23:58
just fallen and the annual. procession
24:00
of the Cofradias, Seville's neighborhood
24:02
religious brotherhoods, was about to
24:04
file in. Suddenly the
24:07
soaring knave of this vast
24:09
stone fortress of faith filled
24:11
with organ music resonating through
24:13
every gilded carved and painted
24:15
cranny. In this event
24:17
the Via Clousis, a statue of Christ the
24:20
Redeemer, is carried from its usual home in
24:22
a parish church through the streets of Seville
24:25
and taken through the Cathedral on a symbolic
24:27
journey through the 14 stations of
24:29
the Cross. At each stop
24:31
another chapter from the New Testament and
24:33
another repetition of the Lord's Prayer. It
24:36
then winds its way through more of the
24:38
city's neighborhoods on a night procession back to
24:40
its shrine. The city's worthies
24:42
exchanged discreet handshakes, kisses and saludos
24:45
to friends and colleagues along the way.
24:48
The Cathedral is filled with so
24:50
much finery. Gold, silver,
24:52
masterpieces of religious art. Every
24:55
corner houses another illustrious tomb,
24:57
chapel or monument. Kings,
24:59
popes and saints and
25:01
arguably Christopher Columbus were all buried
25:03
here. The procession too
25:06
is full of visual riches. Everyone
25:09
seemed to have an almost theatrical prop
25:11
to carry. Hall body
25:13
length red wax candles,
25:15
lanterns, staffs, staves, silvered
25:18
banners and finials and
25:20
a thicket of crucifixes of all
25:23
sizes held aloft through the whole
25:25
long ceremonial. One
25:27
in particular making Christ's suffering
25:29
brutally visible, giving that visceral
25:32
jolt that runs through Spain's
25:34
most graphic blood-and-guts sacred art.
25:37
Its gilded insignia showing the
25:39
entire toolkit needed for a
25:42
crucifixion. Not just the
25:44
crown of thorns and Roman lance but
25:47
a saw, ladder, hammer and
25:49
nails. The figure of
25:51
the Redeemer finally came into view. A Life-size
25:54
Christ Resplendent in purple velvet
25:56
robe and bedecked with gold
25:58
braid with a shiny in
26:00
gilded highlighted flanked by for of
26:02
the curly. A school deist
26:04
most baroque gold leaf candlesticks,
26:07
Rising above a small see
26:09
of purple flowers. It's.
26:11
Carried by twelve sturdy men on each
26:13
side of it's wooden platform with a
26:15
good half dozen extra that the best
26:17
and from for extra hast. That.
26:20
One notes of the more austere. Approach
26:22
The Bishop warned of the spiritual.
26:25
Dangers of today's world not
26:27
just as sin, but of
26:29
social media and creeping secularism.
26:31
but there were nods to
26:33
modernity to the Archbishop sermon
26:35
mention the current branch shriveling
26:37
Spain's rivers. Several of the
26:39
lessons will read by women
26:41
and the angel face teenage
26:43
attendants swinging cereals of smoking
26:45
frankincense turned out to be
26:47
girls. And of course
26:49
mobile phones with still everywhere.
26:52
Outside another sudden shock adorned
26:54
sushi. Distressed looking men in
26:57
rags clung to the railings,
26:59
twitching and moaning. Another
27:02
sick of from religious out a beggar
27:04
in need. Nobody. Stopped to
27:06
tend to him. Some. Stepped right
27:08
over him. So. Much
27:10
the christian charity Micelles
27:12
perhaps on charitably. Then
27:15
the bells peeled out from the top
27:17
of the he had added that tower
27:20
another of the cathedrals many treasures, drowning
27:22
out the chatter of the crowds waiting
27:24
outside. Over one hundred meters
27:26
tool and Tryst with delicate brickwork
27:28
an elegant more research is it's
27:30
a legacy of Seville Muslim past.
27:32
Originally built to be the minaret
27:35
of the greatest mosque in L
27:37
on the loose back in the
27:39
eleven seventies when they are more
27:41
had dennis the rules here. As
27:43
the procession filed out of the
27:46
Cathedral, the mood grew more serious.
27:48
They still intensely sociable in every
27:51
plaza. throngs of Sebi annals was
27:53
standing to witness it, chatting, gossiping,
27:55
wondering why everything is running Sunday
27:58
night. The. Next day. Local
28:00
papers were full of griping about
28:02
the processions. Overdue return to it's.
28:05
Home. Shrine The Crush. Of
28:07
spectators meant to add got back
28:09
long after the planned eleven thirty
28:12
pm deadline in a conservative Catholic
28:14
newspaper. One columnists groused about what
28:16
he told the in a modern
28:18
habit of wishing people are happy
28:21
land where with the spirit of
28:23
self denial of these days he
28:25
asked the whole point of Lent
28:28
He stressed. Is. That you're
28:30
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28:32
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28:34
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