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On today's episode of the show, I

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answer the question. Is

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social media ruining our lives?

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And I say that with a smile, but I'm actually

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kind of serious. I talk about

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the fact that I have a really hard time

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setting boundaries for myself when it comes

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to the use of my phone screen

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time and social media. We

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get into why is it so challenging

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to set boundaries around our phone

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use. Where is society going?

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Is it actually helpful for us when

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it comes to our health and our well-being? And

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how can we support ourselves in

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a way that feels really aligned with the kind

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of life that we want? This

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is an episode that might inspire

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you to put your phone down a little bit more

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often. I also talk a bit about EMF

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and red light and

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sleep and It's not a

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conspiracy podcast, but

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it maybe leans that way a little bit.

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think it's an interesting conversation to have,

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and I'm happy that you're here.

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Hello my friends.

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Hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome

1:09

back to the show. Welcome back to the yoga

1:11

girl podcast. How

1:14

are you? How

1:16

are you? How's your week been? I

1:19

hope I hope you're having

1:21

more than anything. I hope we're all having

1:24

deadliness these weeks. It's something

1:27

that really I've been praying for

1:28

and setting

1:30

intentions around. It's just some

1:33

level of steadiness and stability

1:36

where even when

1:38

life kind of pushes us around

1:40

and it feels like we're standing in the live a

1:42

tornado that somewhere

1:45

deep inside of us, we sense this

1:47

core sense of stability

1:49

and grounding. we

1:51

need it. I feel in

1:53

my whole being, my whole body,

1:55

how much I need it. I know you need it.

1:58

It's I

1:59

think it's

1:59

been a little bit part of my

2:02

of my spiritual journey over

2:04

the past few months just

2:06

looking for that anchor within.

2:09

I'm practicing, not getting

2:11

so caught up in every wave

2:13

that comes my way, you know,

2:15

every little thing because we have that all

2:17

throughout the day. Big things, little things.

2:19

We get triggered. We have emotions come.

2:22

People are crazy. Sometimes, the

2:25

world is crazy sometimes. It's

2:28

just there's so much pushing

2:30

us in different directions all

2:32

throughout the day. And I'm

2:35

I'm I'm really practicing arriving

2:38

at a sense of steadiness inside

2:40

of myself where I can really

2:42

hold myself grounded when

2:45

those things come my way. And something

2:47

I've realized which of course is not like a news

2:49

flash or anything but

2:51

the more time I spend on social media,

2:53

the harder it is to

2:55

feel like I'm on steady ground. So

2:58

I I realized over the past couple weeks,

3:00

especially with my my vegan

3:03

drama and, you know, kind of

3:05

living in my DMs and answering

3:07

comments and lots of people with lots

3:09

of opinions. I found myself

3:12

way more, way more on my phone than

3:14

I normally am. there's

3:16

a direct effect of that for me

3:18

where I just feel uneasy

3:20

and I feel out of balance, I feel

3:23

like it's much easier to sort of

3:25

topple me, you know, when I'm on my phone

3:27

a lot. So I'm working

3:29

this week on. Just setting better

3:31

boundaries for myself. You

3:34

know, do I need to be on my

3:36

phone late at night? No.

3:39

And

3:40

over the past couple of weeks, it's really become

3:42

this. It's so hard

3:44

to resist sometimes and

3:47

I can tell when I'm feeling already tired,

3:50

it's like the thing I really should be doing is

3:52

maybe grab a book and go to bed

3:54

and like read for the last few moments of

3:56

the day. But when I'm really tired

3:58

and I'm really already feeling a little

3:59

bit unsteady, that phone, it's

4:02

like a magnet and it's so

4:04

hard not to reach for it.

4:06

and I can find myself spending like an

4:08

hour at the end of the day just, yeah,

4:11

going between these like two or three apps

4:14

that I'm on scrolling on

4:16

Instagram, you know, reading

4:18

things, and it's

4:21

it's so much. It really is so

4:23

much. And

4:26

if I I did that one of one of

4:28

these past nights where I was just I became

4:30

very very aware of, like, here I am

4:32

sitting on my phone, It's like

4:34

eight PM. You know, it's like I should

4:36

be getting ready for bed or

4:38

go take a bath or read a book

4:40

or talk to my husband. Like, there's

4:42

a million things I can do that are

4:44

really helpful for my well-being when I

4:46

put lay out of bed. And it's

4:48

that it's like, because I I don't like to be my

4:50

phone when I'm with her, so then I put her to bed.

4:52

It's like, oh, let's see what happened. You know,

4:54

the FOMO of, like, what happened

4:56

in the world for the past couple of hours when I

4:58

wasn't on my phone, which is, of

5:00

course, the answer to that is

5:01

everything has happened. For

5:04

every for every

5:04

minute you spend away from social

5:07

media, everything happens

5:09

because freaking everything

5:11

happens on that app, on these

5:13

apps all the time. the amount

5:15

of information that's thrown our way

5:17

every second that we are on

5:19

social media is crazy.

5:21

It's overwhelming and it never ends.

5:23

never ever ever answer. There's always something new. There's

5:25

always more content. There's always this.

5:27

And I found myself just kind of

5:29

scrolling on Instagram and I became just very,

5:31

very present with, okay, like,

5:34

what is it that's happening now? And

5:36

it's like, oh, here

5:38

is an ad for like a fitness

5:40

app. And then it's like

5:42

immediate post about Iran

5:44

and what's happening there and the protests

5:46

and and then immediately it's like a comedy

5:49

skit. This couple I follow there is super

5:51

cute and funny and then It's like a

5:53

dog, and then it's like some

5:55

horrible injustice has happened. Can you

5:57

believe this? And then it's elections, and

5:59

then it's

5:59

and

6:00

it's I

6:02

just became very present with, like, what

6:04

is my brain

6:06

taking in? it's

6:09

a hundred thousand impressions

6:11

all at the same time and it's this thing

6:14

and that thing and this thing and that thing and somehow

6:18

we've normalized this so much that this

6:20

is just completely normal to

6:22

take in all of this information in such a

6:24

short time and the fact that it's never ending

6:26

and it's really Like we

6:28

forget that these apps are built

6:30

to keep us there. These

6:32

apps really are designed to

6:35

lock us in, to make us

6:37

addicted. You know, it really

6:39

is part of how they are constructed. It

6:41

is so hard to stop. still

6:45

sitting there, like, the things that I'm

6:47

just listening to and taking in and

6:49

reading and digesting and trying

6:51

to process here,

6:52

it's it

6:53

is it it shouldn't be normal, but we

6:56

have normalized it, but it shouldn't be normal. So

6:58

is it strange then that if

7:00

I spend an hour on Instagram in the evening

7:02

that all of a sudden it's hard for me to wind

7:04

down. You know, that

7:06

maybe I don't have a great night sleep.

7:09

And that's like, not even

7:11

talking about blue light

7:13

and all of this. We all know.

7:16

And I've kind of gotten really into

7:18

this biohacking side of this where

7:20

after the sun has set, and this is very challenging

7:23

living where I live. This is very challenging when you

7:25

live in Sweden or so far up north

7:27

that it's just It's

7:29

three o'clock and it's dark. We

7:31

pick up Leah from school and on the drive

7:33

home from Leah school, then

7:35

it says everyday he's like it's so

7:37

bizarre. It's three o'clock and it's like the day

7:39

is over. What are we gonna have for dinner?

7:41

Where in

7:43

the summertime or in

7:44

the, you know, in the rest of the year, three

7:47

o'clock, it's literally middle of the day. We

7:49

have the whole half of the day is left. What

7:51

are we gonna do? Should we be outside? Should

7:53

we go for bike ride? Should we

7:55

take the dogs for a walk? Should we go to the

7:57

to the city and do something? You know? It's

7:59

like you look at your day completely

8:02

differently when you have daylight.

8:04

Of course. but now it's three o'clock.

8:06

It's pitch black outside. And it feels

8:08

like the day is already over, and

8:10

it's so bizarre. but we

8:12

all know that the blue light

8:14

that emits from our devices

8:16

and our screens and our computers

8:18

and TVs and iPads and phones that

8:20

it's really not good for

8:22

our brains. It's really not good for our bodies.

8:26

It inhibits our body's ability produce

8:28

melatonin, which it naturally does

8:31

after sunset. It's like if we're in

8:33

tune with our biological clocks and we're

8:35

in tune with what's happening outside

8:37

of nature, When the sunset, it

8:39

is time to wind down. You know, it is. Like,

8:41

we're getting into evening time, we're getting

8:43

closer to bed, the rhythm

8:45

should shift, you know,

8:47

if we were living that natural

8:49

life. But of course, that's

8:51

not how we live. Right? So not

8:53

only are we this is

8:55

so hard in Sweden. I mean, what are we supposed to

8:57

do? It's three o'clock. It's pitch black. Should

8:59

we just sit around the fire

9:02

for five hours

9:04

before for six hours

9:06

before it's time for bed, you know.

9:08

And yes, of course, that was the

9:10

old ways. That probably is,

9:12

the more natural and the more healthy

9:14

way. but it's not what life looks like. Right?

9:16

It's not realistic in any way. So it's like,

9:18

yeah. Three o'clock, we

9:19

turn all the lights on everywhere

9:22

in every household. Whenever the sun set, it

9:24

gets dark We

9:24

turn all the lights on. And I

9:27

have always had this very

9:29

I'm so mindful about lighting.

9:32

For me, it's a huge, huge, huge thing.

9:35

I can you know, if we're going to a

9:37

restaurant somewhere and that restaurant has,

9:39

like, fluorescent ish or just

9:41

very white, bright lighting,

9:43

If there's no ambiance, if it's not

9:46

cozy, if it's not intimate,

9:48

III don't wanna go there.

9:50

Like for me, the lighting

9:51

of a restaurant or bar or a

9:53

cafe or whatever is much more important than the

9:55

food. I can't enjoy anything

9:57

if the lighting's horrible. I don't know if this is

9:59

a

9:59

Libra thing for me.

10:02

it's always been the thing. So whenever,

10:04

you know, in our homes,

10:06

wherever we have lived, if we were in a rhubarb

10:08

and Sweden, I am so mindful of

10:10

exactly what quality of

10:11

lighting do we have. I

10:14

wanted to be as warm as possible.

10:17

In Aruba, we had this we

10:19

used what are they called again. Hugh

10:22

Lights, they're called Hugh Philips

10:25

hue Lights, and it's like you

10:27

it's they're they're light bulbs that you

10:29

can all in any kind of lamp, and we have them

10:32

in every room of the house. And

10:34

then you can adjust and

10:36

decide exactly the color

10:38

scale you want for each light bulb. And

10:40

it all happens through an app. It's all connected

10:42

via bluetooth. It all happens

10:44

with an app and you can even set

10:46

like different settings for different rooms and

10:48

for different times of the day that come on

10:50

at a certain time. So we

10:52

always used to have naturally just a lot

10:54

of red lighting

10:56

at home, a lot of orange lighting. If

10:58

we ever had something bright, it's

11:00

always like a warm yellow, but

11:02

brighter. We would never venture off

11:04

into the white you know,

11:06

blue, green, like never never never very much.

11:08

When people used to ask me all the time on social media,

11:11

like how like, why is your household

11:13

always so red? Because we always

11:15

at night, we always had very red

11:18

colors of of the lighting and the lamps.

11:20

And then when we move to

11:22

Sweden, It's one of the things that I didn't

11:24

love. Like, hue lights are great. I'm

11:26

not in love with Bluetooth and

11:28

with just EMF. and

11:31

WiFi controlling

11:32

your house. It's not it's

11:35

not for me. I just

11:36

I love turning off the fight

11:38

before going to bed. I love having electricity

11:40

free and EMF free

11:43

times in my day. And if

11:45

your house is a smart house, smart

11:47

I'm using with like air quotes where

11:49

everything is connected, because you can have like your

11:52

fridge connected, your oven, your

11:54

freezer,

11:54

You can have even your, you know, your washer

11:56

and dry air connected to an app,

11:58

all your lights of the house. The

12:01

house can be very smart,

12:02

but then you

12:03

need to be on a device at all

12:06

times to do basic household things.

12:08

And I felt always really

12:10

disconnected.

12:10

Yeah.

12:11

There's a disconnect there

12:12

for me. when you

12:14

have to go on a phone to turn on a

12:16

light. You know that I yeah. I never enjoyed that

12:18

part. So I decided when we move,

12:20

I really wanna move

12:21

away from all Bluetooth,

12:23

like no extra EMF around

12:25

the house. And you can think that

12:27

EMF is is that

12:29

the dangers of EMF are rural or not, you have

12:31

to do your own research. For me,

12:34

I feel a difference. Like, I

12:36

literally feel a difference in my body.

12:38

so many friends of mine feel a difference in

12:40

their bodies. You can compare it

12:42

to sleeping in a really,

12:44

like,

12:44

wired apartment

12:45

building in the middle of a

12:47

city. versus going

12:49

camping. Like, those are probably

12:51

the two most contrasting

12:54

ways to explore that? Like, what is it about

12:56

sleeping out in nature, about going camping or

12:58

sleeping in a tent? That

13:00

feels so deeply grounding, you

13:02

know. or for

13:03

example, going to your

13:06

summer house. I'm sure you've had that experience.

13:08

They used to have this all the time growing up

13:10

and kind of now as we live

13:12

there's a difference going

13:13

from your regular super

13:15

wired up home to going if you

13:17

have a summer house or a country house or a

13:19

cabin somewhere. to going to like an

13:21

old

13:21

school cabin where you just have basic

13:24

electricity and that's it. You know, you

13:26

don't have the whole house fire. Then you're

13:28

not surrounded by other houses

13:30

and buildings and apartments that are completely

13:32

wired up either. You know,

13:34

the EMF, it's really hard

13:36

to escape. But for me,

13:38

when I turn the WiFi off, I turn the

13:40

router off, there's a difference in my

13:42

sleep. There really, really is. and

13:45

having this electromagnetic field

13:48

always on, always

13:50

open, always active, it

13:52

is a fairly new experience for the

13:54

human body to live under that. And because

13:56

we can't see it and because we've been

13:59

really

13:59

sold through marketing, that this

14:02

is totally normal safe. There's nothing to

14:04

worry about at all. We Yeah.

14:06

Most people don't think about it. But

14:08

when I was growing up, I had my first phone. It

14:10

was very very that was like a thing we

14:12

talked about all the time. Like, don't keep your phone in

14:14

your pocket. You're not supposed to

14:16

hold it in your lap. You're not supposed to sleep

14:18

with it next to your head. My

14:20

dad would always tell me, like, be careful with

14:22

radiation. You know, you have this phone. You have to turn

14:24

it off at night. It was just a very

14:26

like, something we talked about. Everybody talk like,

14:28

you you understood that. We went from

14:31

having home phones wired

14:33

in to all of a sudden this, like,

14:35

magical little device, you could take anywhere,

14:37

but how it was very

14:39

logical to me even as like a ten year old that,

14:41

yeah, there's radiation and

14:43

things happening

14:43

here. there's a frequency

14:46

that allows this phone to function and

14:48

work. And I shouldn't hold it to

14:50

my brain all the time, you know. And

14:52

it's

14:52

funny my dad used

14:53

to always

14:54

always talk about this, that you should wear

14:57

headphones. If news as soon as those became

14:59

available, you should wear headphones and

15:01

hold the phone to your ear. And that

15:03

is totally, like,

15:05

I think, in the holistic community, like,

15:07

very accepted as fact and as

15:09

truth. that the body

15:11

doesn't do well exposed to

15:13

these EMFs all the time. So

15:16

if you can, yeah, use headphones instead

15:18

of holding the phone to your ear. I always speak

15:20

on speaker phone when I'm on the phone if

15:22

I don't

15:23

have my headphones around. But

15:25

so yeah. for me, the

15:27

the red lighting, it

15:30

moved away from that when we moved here because I

15:32

I yeah. I I kind of honestly,

15:34

I wouldn't mind Like, I kinda

15:37

wanna chop wood and carry water.

15:39

Yeah. That that's

15:41

sort of where I am and my

15:43

longing to live. I I wouldn't

15:45

mind carrying water. I

15:46

would love actually to

15:48

carry water from a stream. If there

15:50

was a stream nearby with clean water, I

15:53

would love source my water that way.

15:55

I

15:55

would love to go back to something that's

15:57

more ancestral and rooted and

15:59

more, you

15:59

know, as much as possible. And a lot

16:02

of us Many people have a

16:04

little bit of this experience going to like a

16:06

summer house or a

16:06

cabin. I remember

16:08

going to visit my grandpa

16:10

when I was little. There was a well and you

16:12

had to pump your own water in the

16:14

well. And there was always also

16:16

a spring really nearby that had

16:18

amazing clean water where we would go fill

16:20

up our bottles and things like that.

16:22

and lighting a fire every day for

16:25

heating if it was cold outside,

16:27

and there's something so

16:30

Like, people do that for vacation

16:32

now. You know?

16:34

This used to be just a

16:36

a thing you had to do to

16:38

make life work. right, chop the

16:40

wood, carry the water, and

16:43

convenience, and of course, evolution,

16:45

and we develop and

16:47

societies moving forward. All of this, of course,

16:49

everything has improved dramatically

16:52

for billions of people

16:54

across the world getting to turn on a tap Right?

16:56

I'm not taking this privilege for

16:58

granted. There are people in this world right now that

17:00

spend most of their day

17:02

carrying water for miles or they wouldn't

17:04

have water in course, it should not be that way. Everyone

17:07

should have the privilege of being

17:09

able to turn on the top. But

17:11

for me

17:11

where I am, I

17:13

feel like we ventured so far away from

17:15

the basics, especially living in that

17:17

kind of wired up house where

17:20

every time I wanna turn on the light, I have to go to

17:22

my phone, open an app, turn on the light.

17:25

Like, I just I felt

17:27

very disconnected, and I would like to

17:29

return to something yeah, by choice

17:31

because I have the choice that

17:33

feels more more ancestral.

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But so, anyway, now we don't have those

19:00

those lights anymore. But when

19:02

we come home and this

19:04

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19:07

gets dark. We turn on all the

19:09

lights. That's just what it is. And

19:11

if we are not mindful

19:14

about that, which I

19:16

have always been, but not for health. I

19:18

never really understood that this is really

19:20

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19:22

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19:24

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19:26

I want the ambiance of it.

19:28

But if we are living under

19:30

really white, bright lighting, And

19:32

from the moment it gets dark outside, we're just

19:34

sitting under that white light. The

19:36

body

19:36

can't naturally produce

19:39

the

19:39

melatonin that we need to start winding down and

19:42

getting ready for sleep. The body is going to think it's

19:44

still daytime. And

19:46

it's so you can really feel, I think,

19:48

how unnatural this is for

19:50

our bodies. To be in that

19:52

daytime, daytime, daylight, white

19:54

light, blue light state until all of a

19:56

sudden boom, lights off we're gonna sleep.

19:59

The body doesn't work that way. You know,

20:01

we need that transitional

20:03

time. So

20:06

what I do at night and this

20:08

is like so dorky

20:10

is the dorkiest thing of

20:12

all the

20:13

dorky thing. but I have these little red light

20:16

night lights.

20:17

I have little red

20:18

light reading lights. So when I'm reading

20:20

at night, I I

20:22

clip it to my book so I read

20:24

in a red light. And

20:27

I even have one of those really silly

20:29

red light glasses. You

20:31

can get

20:32

them online. You can look them up. There's, like,

20:34

there's blue blue light blocking glasses. I

20:36

think we all

20:37

know where you just You can put them all while you're

20:39

in front of the computer, which is

20:40

really good. But then there's like the next

20:43

level where you have the red light glasses and they

20:45

blue they block all light. that

20:47

isn't basically, like,

20:50

fire. You know? Like,

20:52

you can still light a fire, have

20:54

candles lit in the evening, like, form of

20:56

natural

20:56

really warm, deep

20:58

hue of lighting. But that

21:00

any other unnatural lighting actually makes

21:02

harder for us to wind down. So not only are

21:04

we doing that, I mean, I've been

21:06

doing this forever, but

21:09

we're also sitting on our on our screens.

21:11

right, which is the worst version

21:14

of lighting, and we're holding it up right

21:16

to our face. And we're letting

21:18

that blue light stimulate

21:20

us to the max at a time

21:22

of day where we actually should be

21:24

winding down, where we should be

21:26

aligning with that natural

21:28

rhythm of the day. Of the day is

21:30

ever the day is done, it's time

21:33

for sleep, what's

21:35

conducive and helpful for me before I go

21:37

to bed. and I think

21:39

sitting with that screen in our

21:41

face and then being

21:43

bombarded by those millions

21:45

of impressions of all the things

21:48

And it's kind of the world, like,

21:50

screaming at us.

21:51

Like, care about this.

21:53

Care about this. Look at this.

21:55

Look at this. Look at this. And

21:58

it's care about this celebrity, and then there's

21:59

this gossip, but then there's

22:02

this war happening here, and

22:03

then there's this injustice, and then there are these

22:05

politics, and then there's this comedy,

22:08

and It's just

22:09

individually each of those things would be

22:12

a thing to to process and

22:14

take in and have opinions and feelings

22:16

and thoughts about, you know, but

22:18

it's so quick and it's so much.

22:20

And I just had that realization of

22:22

I'm sitting

22:22

here on my phone Like,

22:25

it was this insane. And

22:29

it

22:30

it's not insane. Well,

22:32

I guess there's a difference between

22:34

normal and common. Right? It's

22:37

not normal. We I don't

22:39

our bodies are not wired and made for

22:41

this. Our bodies are not

22:43

most likely, most of us

22:46

not feeling great under those

22:48

circumstances, but

22:50

it's common. It's not just common. It's

22:52

every day. It's everywhere. It's every

22:54

one. So IIII

22:55

don't know.

22:57

For me, I had a little I had

22:59

a little light bulb. I

23:02

had a little red light light bulb go off above

23:04

my head.

23:05

I I cannot live like this. Like this

23:08

is just No. No.

23:11

You know? And especially

23:13

how how opposing

23:16

it is, that I often I will

23:18

take a bath. And in

23:20

the

23:20

bath, it's like candles lit

23:23

only. I take these really long

23:25

bath. Sometimes I sit with my red

23:27

light therapy device. I turn on

23:29

the red lights around, but then I'm, like, on

23:31

my phone for an hour.

23:33

It's like negating all the other things

23:36

I'm doing to try to have a

23:38

better night sleep. So

23:40

I decided this week that

23:42

enough enough of this. Enough.

23:44

I actually don't wanna

23:46

I don't wanna think about where

23:48

I would be in terms of

23:51

just my routine and my mental health

23:53

and my physical health if

23:55

I were to carry that on, you

23:57

know, if I were to

23:59

spend

23:59

so much time on my phone,

24:02

not

24:02

doing anything constructive, just taking

24:04

in all this information. If that is a habit

24:06

that I would hold, what would

24:08

my life look like in five years? And

24:11

unfortunately, I think for a lot of the

24:13

world, it is a habit that we

24:14

are gonna hold. It is something that's

24:17

gonna come more and more and more more and more and green.

24:21

And I

24:21

it's not in alignment with where

24:23

I wanna go. And

24:26

at

24:26

the same time, I've had how many times

24:28

if you've listened to this podcast for a long

24:31

time, I cycle through

24:35

these. social media realizations that

24:37

I have where I, like, talk about it on the show

24:39

when I say, this is not good

24:41

for me. I'm taking a

24:43

break. I'm leaving

24:43

Instagram. I'm, you know,

24:45

setting boundaries. I had a lot

24:48

of seasons in my life where I've had really

24:50

good boundaries

24:50

around my phone. and

24:52

then I lose them. I'm

24:54

sure

24:54

I'm sure you feel the same or that you've

24:57

had similar experiences of

24:59

realizing, well, this isn't serving me.

25:01

Okay. let's stop. Let's do the

25:03

let's do it differently. Let's set some boundaries,

25:05

some ground rules. And

25:07

then somehow, you know, that

25:10

that phone just kind of sneaks

25:12

back in. And

25:16

definitely, if

25:18

I wanna live the

25:20

chopping wood carrying water kind of

25:22

life, it's definitely

25:24

out of alignment with that. So

25:26

I haven't yeah. I'm not sitting here

25:28

with some sweeping declaration of, like,

25:30

I'm leaving the Internet because, of course,

25:32

not. That's not what it what's happening.

25:36

I am sitting here with this

25:38

deep felt realization of that

25:40

this makes me feel

25:42

really bad. when

25:44

I lose control of the time

25:46

I spend on social media, when

25:48

I spend a lot of time on social media

25:50

in the evenings, when I'm mindlessly scrolling, which I've

25:53

done so much of over the past

25:55

weeks, like way too much of,

25:58

it lowers my quality

25:59

of life immensely. Like, it

26:02

really, really, really does. And

26:05

it's so easy to get sucked into

26:07

not knowing

26:08

why. I can

26:10

have

26:10

that all of us. I'm just anxious all

26:12

the time. I'm not feeling good.

26:14

Not sleeping well. I'm distracted

26:16

a lot. I feel my inner critical

26:19

voice is really loud. Like a lot of stuff is

26:21

happening and I'm like, why? What is

26:23

it? is in my cycle? Is

26:25

it, you know, I can't pinpoint

26:27

it. But at the same time, I

26:29

have the highest screen time

26:31

I've had in a long time. And now I'm

26:33

like, well, that

26:33

is why.

26:35

That's why you feel like shit.

26:38

That's why your inner critical

26:39

voice is so loud. You're sitting

26:42

here comparing yourself

26:44

with all the celebrities and supermodels

26:47

and influencers on

26:49

Instagram that are living perfect lives

26:51

with perfect bodies, perfect families,

26:53

perfect everything. And

26:55

you're comparing yourself with them feeling

26:57

lesser

26:57

than because that I I do I I

26:59

do that a lot. You're

27:02

taking in a lot of information

27:05

around atrocities happening in

27:07

this world. without clear

27:09

ways of making a difference, without feeling

27:11

impactful. And that's really

27:13

hard. That is

27:15

like, an overwhelming thing to hold

27:17

and to to manage, to

27:19

take in, to be bombarded

27:21

with information of pain

27:25

and suffering and

27:27

injustice and war and

27:29

disasters and, you

27:31

know, protests and really,

27:34

really hard horrible injustices

27:36

happening in this world, but then you're not

27:37

you don't know what to do

27:39

with that, and it's so much,

27:41

and it's all the time. Right? Especially if

27:43

you follow, I mean, if if you've ever if

27:45

you are an active person in

27:48

that wanting to make a difference in the world probably

27:51

online. You follow tons of

27:53

organizations and activists and

27:55

people making a change and maybe news

27:57

outlets that are sharing in these different

27:59

areas. So if you

28:00

are interested in this, you know, if you're if you're

28:02

a compassionate person that wants to make

28:05

a difference, you're

28:07

gonna probably see more of that

28:09

in your feed than another person

28:11

would.

28:11

And when you're not

28:13

actively researching a talk because

28:15

that's different, you know, like, when the protests started

28:18

in in Iran, and I

28:20

am googling and listening to

28:22

podcasts and diving

28:25

into? What is happening? Really?

28:27

What triggered this? How can I help? How

28:29

can I be of

28:30

service? because I wanna

28:32

learn more because I feel active in this space.

28:34

I wanna help. If I

28:35

can help, I wanna do something. That's

28:37

a different energy to move into

28:41

injustice and suffering, you know, with

28:43

with that kind of just groundedness

28:45

of, okay, I'm I'm here. I wanna do

28:47

something. What

28:47

can I do? versus, like

28:50

sitting on the couch, tired after a long

28:52

day, not not

28:54

thinking of that, you know, being present in

28:56

other ways. And then all of a sudden, we'll look at

28:58

this and look at this and look at this and look at this.

29:01

And I think it can completely

29:03

deplete us. Yeah. Being

29:05

bombarded with news awful things happening in the world can

29:08

completely deplete us, especially

29:10

when it's not followed with a clear action

29:12

or if we're not

29:13

intentionally seeking out that information. Not

29:17

saying that, of course, that we should

29:19

shouldn't follow those accounts or that we

29:22

shouldn't seek out ways to

29:24

be of service, but we need to be mindful of

29:26

when and how we're doing those

29:29

things. And not let sort of the

29:31

information of the pain of the

29:33

world just happened to

29:35

us.

29:35

Right? But that we actually have

29:38

our feet

29:38

on the ground when we are

29:40

receiving that information. and that's

29:42

something that social media just makes

29:45

completely impossible. Like,

29:49

it's rolling on social media, you have no control of what

29:51

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29:53

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31:18

sitting with. And then a

31:21

lot of like, I'm thinking, like, what's in

31:23

my what's in my feed?

31:25

And the things that sometimes are

31:27

really inspiring to me can

31:29

sometimes really

31:31

be

31:31

uninspiring to me, if

31:33

that makes sense, depending

31:36

on the state of mind that I am

31:38

in. So if I'm in a good place, you know,

31:40

I can be really inspired and motivated

31:42

by by someone sharing of, like,

31:44

the big great things they're doing

31:46

with their life. And then

31:48

at other times, I just feel like, well, I'm not doing anything with my

31:51

life. Like, I am so

31:53

small. I'm not making any

31:55

difference. I I

31:57

could be out there doing this

31:59

and this. I

31:59

probably should be out there doing it. And then I'm just,

32:02

like, sitting here and I'm,

32:05

like, not good enough at all, you

32:07

know, our inner

32:08

critic just kind of that inner narrative

32:10

gets

32:10

really loud. And I

32:12

think

32:12

it's the same thing that

32:15

when we consciously choose to

32:17

seek out that information, you know, when we're

32:19

looking for inspiration, when we're

32:22

feeling ready to go in this area

32:24

of our lives and we're like, I wanna see how other

32:26

people

32:26

do it. That's different. It's

32:28

a very different energy than

32:29

sitting, feeling small, feeling

32:32

sad, whatever the reason is, and then

32:34

getting bombarded with that information. Look

32:36

how everyone else is doing fantastic.

32:39

And think it's part of this, part of

32:42

the non

32:43

intentionality around how

32:44

we are on our phones. That's

32:47

actually the problem. The problem isn't the

32:49

content that other people are putting out, of course

32:51

not. And I'm sitting there

32:52

saying this as an influencer

32:55

person. You

32:57

guys know I hate that word as

33:00

an influencer person ish

33:02

who, of

33:03

course, like, I can trigger this in other

33:05

people from what I share.

33:07

I

33:07

can share something of here's, you know, here's

33:09

my life and I'm spending time in

33:11

the woods or I'm gardening and

33:13

whatever

33:14

I'm doing today and it can be

33:17

really inspiring to you to

33:19

see and to go, wow, like she really

33:21

changed her life like that

33:23

I would like to grow my own foods and

33:25

I would love to learn about this and learn

33:27

about, you know, I wanna have I'm

33:29

gonna spend more time in the forest too.

33:32

I'm gonna you know, you can be motivated just if that's something

33:34

that's inspiring to you. But it could

33:36

also be like, hey, what if you're stuck

33:38

at at your office job

33:39

where you are for eight to ten hours a

33:41

day, you don't have the space in your

33:43

life to or the privilege in your life

33:45

to be able to be outside or to

33:47

be in the wilderness or

33:49

you don't

33:49

have the space to grow. You know, we're just

33:52

not in that place. It can be really

33:54

triggering. Like, some people just

33:56

have it so easy. Right? because,

33:58

yeah, I I do have it easy in a lot of

33:59

ways. So

34:01

it's important that we hold

34:04

that, you know, it's not

34:06

about the content that other people are putting out. It's not about the

34:08

thing that's coming our

34:10

way, but it's

34:11

about our state of mind. and

34:13

our state of heart, mainly. How

34:16

grounded and steady are we? Are we

34:18

intentionally seeking this out and

34:20

curating what comes our way

34:22

so that it fits where we are in life? Or are we

34:24

is it just happening

34:26

to us? Right? And we have

34:28

no control over it whatsoever.

34:32

and I find that I have

34:34

really been in that place, so I feel like I

34:36

have no control at all.

34:40

and I'm not feeling good, but that's the

34:43

that's the scary part is

34:45

is I can be aware of. I'm

34:47

not This doesn't

34:50

serve me. This is not helpful and yet I

34:52

stay. How

34:54

I mean, have

34:55

you ever felt

34:58

this way? I

35:00

don't think

35:00

I'm alone here. I I don't

35:02

think I'm alone here. I think this is a big

35:05

topic for a lot of us. This a

35:07

big conversation for

35:08

a lot of us. I think a lot of us know, I don't feel good here.

35:10

Yeah.

35:13

and yet

35:15

here we are

35:16

and yet here, you know, we

35:17

stay. I don't

35:20

know how many of you saw

35:23

what was the name of that that

35:26

documentary they made, that

35:28

movie, the social dilemma, was that

35:30

it? I think that was it. the

35:32

social dilemma. If I get the title wrong,

35:34

sorry, but I I'm sure many of you know which one

35:36

I'm talking about. It's the movie that

35:38

shares technology

35:40

affects us and how these apps

35:42

are made to lock us in

35:44

there, to keep us there for as long

35:48

as possible. for the purpose of profit, right,

35:50

for the purpose of capitalism

35:52

to be able to target as many

35:54

ads toward us

35:56

as possible. so that we money

35:58

on stuff. Like,

35:59

that's why these apps

36:04

exist. I don't know if we have this idea

36:06

that, you know, it's community

36:08

and it's connecting people. Because

36:10

of course, how freaking

36:12

fantastic is it that

36:14

in twenty twenty two, we

36:17

can FaceTime each other. You can call someone you

36:18

love on the other side of

36:20

the world and see their face

36:22

and talk about their day. I mean, that

36:24

is beautiful. It's truly

36:28

amazing. Fifty years ago, this wasn't

36:30

possible. Like, think of our, when our

36:32

parents were a little and grandparents

36:34

were young. Life was very,

36:36

very, very different in terms

36:38

of staying connected and and

36:40

and, you know, how we were able to

36:42

to be together from far apart. It's magical. It really

36:44

is. I don't wanna downplay, like, how

36:47

much like, how good it is

36:49

that we have that. but

36:52

this idea that these apps, you know, like,

36:55

yeah, TikTok or Facebook or

36:57

Instagram or whatever it is.

37:00

that it's somehow about connecting people and community.

37:04

It's not. I think

37:06

that is

37:06

It's a bonus of

37:08

what happens on the app, but

37:10

the point of these apps is

37:12

to sell us stuff. The point

37:14

of

37:14

these apps is to make profit

37:17

at the end of the day. These are not nonprofit community building

37:19

companies that are

37:20

doing this for the greater good of the

37:22

world. you

37:24

know, these are companies working with

37:26

billions of corporations in the

37:28

world or at least millions of corporations

37:31

in the world wanting to sell us

37:34

stuff. Like, that is why. And when you

37:36

really look at it in

37:38

that way, like,

37:41

Instagram exists really from

37:43

the

37:43

basis of companies being

37:46

able

37:46

to advertise

37:48

so that I spend my money on stuff. Like, that's how

37:50

it works. That's why the content is curated

37:53

specifically for me. That's

37:55

why I get specific ads and

37:57

not those ads yesterday then this was

37:59

like, what was it? We've been talking about

38:02

something. I think we've been

38:04

talking about

38:06

It was something specific. Like, a

38:07

really specific topic that we're talking about,

38:09

something

38:09

that we wanna do. And he's like,

38:12

yeah. Now I have ads for

38:13

that every day. We all

38:16

know that. like your phone is

38:18

listening. And we laugh. We

38:20

we know this is true. I can

38:22

probably sit here right now and I can

38:24

be like, what's

38:26

something ridiculous I or something really

38:28

far away that I never would talk about. I

38:30

could start talking about a country

38:33

Right? I guess they're saying, I I would

38:35

really love to visit South Africa. Like,

38:37

I would love to just thought it looks

38:39

like such a beautiful place

38:41

I can mention a couple of sentences around. I'm

38:44

interested in going to South Africa. And

38:46

guess what? Fucking tomorrow, there's

38:48

gonna be an ad for some

38:49

trip to South Africa where I can,

38:52

you know, I there's a

38:53

deal for me there to

38:56

fly. Right?

38:58

We

38:58

all have these experiences. We have them all the time where

39:00

we talk about something or mention something.

39:02

And then there's an ad or we search

39:04

for

39:04

something. Maybe we're just even more direct

39:07

and

39:07

then there's an ad and all of a sudden all of this

39:09

content is coming our way,

39:10

which makes it so easy to press

39:12

that button and buy and purchase

39:15

and spend money. But

39:16

if you objectively hold

39:19

this fact that

39:21

we are so

39:24

that's

39:24

so normalized. Like,

39:26

our devices are freaking

39:28

listening to

39:30

us. And

39:32

this is not, you know, this is not some conspiracy

39:35

theory. I I understand if

39:37

this whole this

39:40

whole podcast episode might lean a little bit

39:41

toward the you know, when I

39:44

whenever I talk

39:44

about EMF people

39:48

wanna throw that conspiracy theorist label.

39:50

I mean, I'm not one of those

39:52

conspiracy people. Like, I'm not

39:54

like, easily pulled into, like, you know, big wild

39:57

ideas about stuff. But when

39:59

I've had real

39:59

experiences in my own body and my own

40:02

health, the yes,

40:04

then I go and I research and yeah. Actually, this

40:06

makes a lot of sense for

40:08

me. It really, really,

40:09

really does. And at

40:12

the very least, I think we should be able to

40:14

question it. Right? And I'm

40:16

really questioning. I'm questioning.

40:18

I'm questioning the direction of this

40:20

planet. I'm questioning the direction of society. I'm questioning

40:23

where, literally, where are we

40:25

in five years, ten

40:26

years, twenty years? what

40:29

are the day to day lives of our

40:32

people gonna look like?

40:34

Are we gonna be are we

40:36

gonna be talking to each other?

40:39

are we gonna be present with each

40:41

other? Are we gonna be spending time

40:43

in nature? Are we gonna be taking

40:46

care of each other? Taking care of

40:48

this earth? just I I don't wanna be

40:50

a commodity. You know, I

40:52

don't wanna be

40:54

someone who's

40:56

great purpose it

40:57

is here is to just be sold a bunch of stuff. And

41:01

the fact that that

41:03

it's so normal to me that I can talk about something and

41:05

then there's an ad for that in my feed the

41:08

next day. It's kind

41:10

of scary. like I

41:11

really feel like

41:14

it's it's scaring me a little

41:15

bit and I don't also don't know

41:17

the way out And that

41:19

I guess is that it's why I cycle through these

41:21

similar conversations on the pod

41:24

a lot.

41:26

the fact that it's there are very few things

41:28

in my life that I know. This

41:29

this makes me feel bad.

41:31

Not just this, maybe

41:34

not the best thing for me, you know? Like, I love I love a

41:36

glass of wine with dinner. I know

41:39

alcohol is horrible. alcohol is so

41:42

bad for you. Alcohol truly is

41:44

detrimental to your health. It's also

41:46

terrible for your sleep. It's no

41:48

good. Right? And I know it's

41:50

no good. but I really enjoy glass of wine with dinner. And I'm probably gonna be one

41:52

of those people who always like, has a glass of wine

41:54

with dinner. You know, that's that's who and I've

41:56

kind of made

41:58

that decision consciously, you know, I too. It sounds like I'm

42:00

gonna do that every day in all the time, but

42:02

once in a while, when I want one,

42:04

I'll I'll have one. And

42:07

the phone, the social media,

42:11

the scrolling is one

42:13

of those very few things in

42:15

my life where I am very aware

42:17

that this makes me feel

42:20

bad. You know, if after if I had a glass

42:22

of wine with dinner and the next day my

42:24

day was ruined.

42:26

I wasn't feeling if I felt a major effect in my body,

42:28

which I don't from one last of mine. Some

42:30

people really do, and I I

42:33

just I've never been that kind of person. But if

42:35

I did and I kept drinking that glass and went

42:37

like that, there would be a

42:38

problem there. Right? If every time I had a glass

42:40

of wine, I felt horrible, I couldn't sleep,

42:43

or yeah, something felt really off for

42:45

me, and I

42:46

kept returning to that. Like, that would be an

42:48

addiction. That would be a problem.

42:50

And for me, the phone and the social

42:52

media, I

42:53

am so aware. I'm very aware, this makes

42:55

me feel horrible.

42:57

Like this, this

42:59

is bad for me

43:02

that

43:02

the way and and the amount

43:04

of

43:04

usage that I'm there And,

43:06

yeah, I can jump in and share an Instagram story

43:08

and talk about something or share

43:11

a post or read a

43:14

few comments and step out, you know. That's like one

43:16

thing. But those times

43:18

when I

43:18

get sucked into the scrolling and I'm

43:20

there on my phone for hours on end,

43:24

and I'm there late at night and I

43:26

am well aware. This is so bad and I

43:27

keep returning. What is that if not

43:30

an addiction?

43:33

if you ever had that

43:35

feeling, that knowing, I wanna be

43:37

on my phone less and then you can't.

43:39

You just can't commit yourself

43:42

to that. You have a hard time making that change in your You keep

43:44

returning to it. Like, that is an

43:46

addiction. Right?

43:48

And it's

43:49

and

43:50

we don't talk about it like that because we're all doing it.

43:53

You found your way to this

43:55

podcast, probably thanks to

43:58

social media. you know,

43:59

like like

43:59

social media is it's it's this thing that

44:02

connects us and and it

44:04

allows us this great content and to

44:06

be inspired and to be together

44:08

and to unite and we can

44:10

make a difference and that it's also kind

44:11

of like ruining our

44:14

lives. Like,

44:16

What the fuck? I

44:18

don't know. And I wish

44:21

I had this great big answer that

44:23

I could close this podcast with, like,

44:25

here is the plan. and

44:27

I don't. I have no answer. And I

44:29

have a feeling that I'm gonna

44:32

be setting some really strong

44:34

boundaries now. which already

44:36

started a couple days ago of like,

44:38

okay, from the moment I pick lay up

44:40

from school, like that's I want that to

44:42

be the end of my social media

44:44

usage. I don't wanna pick my

44:46

phone back up and start scrolling when she goes to

44:48

bed. I don't wanna just have a break when she's

44:50

home. Right? Like, I don't wanna be on my phone

44:52

at night. I don't wanna be on my

44:54

phone in the morning, and I wanna be really

44:56

intentional around why am I am I

44:58

opening this app? What am I

45:00

doing here today? Am I saying something?

45:02

Am I listening for something? Am I looking

45:04

for something? researching something,

45:06

posting something? You know, what am I doing

45:08

here? Why am I opening this up? But

45:11

that's That's not what I do. It just opens it because,

45:13

yeah, it's like an this

45:15

automatic thing. I close my email or I

45:17

get off of the phone or whatever and it's like,

45:19

oh, what's what's on Instagram? just like,

45:21

boom. There

45:22

it is. And probably

45:24

I'll set some boundaries around

45:26

that because this is feeling really strong and active

45:28

in me now. And then probably, like, I don't know, a

45:30

couple weeks gonna go by. Something's gonna

45:32

happen. There's gonna be some outreach or

45:36

some drama

45:38

or something's gonna happen and

45:40

I'm gonna be

45:41

right back doing

45:42

the same thing. I

45:44

just III sound

45:47

kind of hopeless sharing that, but I

45:49

know this is the cycle.

45:50

So what's the

45:53

answer? You

45:54

know, what is the

45:56

answer? And for me, I I know I I'm

45:58

in a I'm I'm

45:59

like in one more step further

46:02

of complexity in this issue because I I know

46:04

I'm not

46:04

alone in this, but I

46:06

make a living thanks to social media.

46:09

you know, social media is

46:11

really important for our family

46:14

and for the fact that,

46:16

you know, And I think about it

46:18

a lot. You know, if I if I didn't have social media, what would my life be

46:20

like? I'd still have

46:22

this podcast

46:22

of

46:24

course. I don't need social media for the podcast. The podcast

46:26

really is standalone and I love

46:28

the podcast. But for everything

46:30

else, I wanna do if

46:32

I wanna create something or for her platform, yoga

46:34

girl dot com, you know, the

46:36

social media platform is everything.

46:40

I would be certifiably insane to let

46:42

that go and put that down.

46:45

And it also might

46:47

be the soonest healthiest

46:49

thing. I mean, those two

46:51

things I don't know if

46:53

they can exist at the same time. Like, it would

46:55

be crazy and it would be so make

46:57

so much sense. like,

46:58

all at

47:00

all at once. So,

47:01

yeah, I I really don't know. What

47:03

I

47:03

do know

47:06

if I really focus what I what I do know I feel very anchored

47:09

in is that I'm entering

47:11

a phase of my life

47:14

where sleep and

47:15

rest is really important.

47:19

And

47:19

I I

47:20

know

47:21

I can set some

47:23

really good boundaries the way I have

47:25

for so many other things and

47:28

routines when it comes to my evenings. I've

47:30

had great sleep over the past couple of

47:32

months, better sleep than

47:34

I have people are asking me is it because you changed

47:36

your diet? I think

47:38

so. Honestly, I think

47:40

so or at least that it's part of it

47:42

just that

47:44

I'm that

47:44

I'm eating more protein rich foods

47:47

and I'm eating less

47:49

sugar, like less I'm

47:51

having less of a spike from

47:53

eating so many carbs. I think I just go

47:55

to bed in a

47:57

more grounded way. That's what

47:59

it

47:59

feels like. But there's a lot of

48:01

factors to that, but knowing that, that that's something that

48:03

really I'm focusing on, that

48:06

boundary around

48:08

from the scrolling of the phone, like, that should be a given. It shouldn't

48:11

be something that I have to struggle with

48:13

and go, you know,

48:13

go back to and then let go of and go back to

48:16

and let

48:18

go of. And I wonder if

48:19

yeah. I wonder if the fact that it's

48:22

so

48:22

common that

48:24

we all do it you

48:27

know, that that's how we communicate with our friends. A

48:29

lot of my communication with my best

48:31

friends is, like, sending really cute and

48:33

funny memes to each other on Instagram

48:36

DM. Like, that's really we talk a

48:38

lot in that sense,

48:40

which is so funny

48:42

where we are. It really, really,

48:45

really is So

48:46

I guess

48:47

I am

48:49

what I am committing myself

48:51

to is to continue

48:53

exploring this. to

48:55

continue listening to

48:57

my body to really arrive at

48:59

that place of mindfulness especially

49:02

in the

49:04

evening time. and

49:04

do less of

49:06

the things

49:07

that make me feel bad.

49:10

Why is that

49:11

so hard? Why

49:13

is

49:14

that so hard? And

49:16

I mean, it's not hard to figure out. Of course, it

49:18

is. Like, when I put

49:19

my phone away for a

49:21

long time, like a really long

49:22

time. It's like everything has happened.

49:24

You know, like I just said,

49:26

the FOMO, I feel like

49:28

FOMO is gonna be become like

49:31

clinical diagnosis at some point

49:33

because FOMO is

49:36

an issue. We

49:38

don't wanna miss anything. We wanna be

49:40

here for everything. We wanna have

49:44

caught everything. if think

49:46

of, well, how did our ancestors

49:48

live? Like

49:50

like the the information we

49:53

received and

49:53

five minute window scrolling on

49:56

Instagram is more than

49:58

our ancestors would receive

49:59

probably, you know, in like

50:02

a decade span of a

50:04

decade, maybe a lifetime.

50:06

Imagine that, like, when

50:08

news traveled through word-of-mouth when

50:11

you lived this very,

50:14

very, very different life.

50:16

And I

50:16

know a lot of this is

50:18

has brought a lot of goodness and good things, but

50:20

I think back of even my

50:22

own childhood. Like, I was I

50:25

I think probably

50:26

i probably my generation

50:27

was the last generation to experience

50:30

this. Where we had home

50:32

phones. In the beginning of my

50:34

childhood, they were plugged into the wall at

50:36

the end they were those kind

50:38

of not disposable,

50:40

what do you call them? Like, you could pick

50:42

them up. They had a home, you know, the home phones.

50:44

You could pick them up and put them in other

50:46

go to another room, you could walk around at least, but then they had

50:48

to charge. Right? You remember, I don't

50:50

remember the names of those phones. But to

50:52

reach each other, like your friends had

50:56

to call and my mom would answer and it would be like,

50:58

hi, this is Anna. Is Rachel home? You

51:00

know? Okay. One second. Rachel.

51:02

Anna's on

51:04

the phone. and then I would be like,

51:06

hey, what's up? What'd you do it? And you would risk, like, someone else and then another

51:08

room up the house, like,

51:11

picking up that the other phone to

51:13

listen in on brother would do sometimes. So and

51:16

you would just, like, talk and then you

51:18

would meet up and you'd say, let's meet

51:20

at this time

51:22

at that

51:22

place, and then you would just carelessly, like

51:25

not a care in the

51:27

world, leave your house and

51:29

you would

51:29

know that they would

51:31

be there. And when you arrived

51:33

to that place, you would just look

51:35

for

51:35

them and find them. And

51:38

I say this laughing

51:40

because when we make a time

51:43

to meet someone, like, before we arrive,

51:45

we're on our phone asking that person. Like, I'm telling them

51:47

I'm here where are you. You know,

51:49

before we, like, go

51:52

into the bar or the cafe or every

51:54

the restaurant. Like, we want

51:56

them to tell us, like, exactly. Like, what

51:58

table are you at

51:59

or, like, meet me at the front door or, you know, like we completely

52:02

lost that just natural interaction

52:04

of entering a space, taking

52:06

a moment, looking around, like

52:08

finding our peak which also, like,

52:10

opens up this big opportunity to talk to

52:12

strangers and ask questions

52:14

and we

52:14

don't do any of that. All of

52:16

our interaction that was on the phone

52:20

and I don't

52:21

know. It's like every little step of

52:23

our day to

52:24

day has become so dependent

52:25

on these devices. It is

52:28

crazy. It really, really, really

52:30

is. And I I

52:32

want if I would get a get a chance

52:34

to choose. I would rather my daughter

52:36

have that experience that

52:39

we had. I definitely don't

52:41

want her growing up with that screen in her face.

52:43

Like, not there's not a bone in my body that

52:45

wants that for her. And

52:48

it's it's it's

52:50

taking us somewhere. It's not taking us

52:53

closer to a life where we intentionally

52:55

chop wood and carry water like that, that

52:57

I know. So,

53:01

yeah, I'm

53:02

gonna close

53:04

this pod. Just

53:06

inviting you

53:07

to take a moment to get

53:09

really present with

53:12

how you use your devices. And maybe

53:14

you're in a totally different place than me.

53:16

You know, maybe you're not resonating with anything

53:18

I shared this part and that's okay. Wonderful.

53:22

like we're sharing this like one

53:24

hundred percent like this is really it. So

53:26

how can we get more mindful

53:28

around how we

53:30

use them? How can we make that decision are And

53:32

are we ready to receive what is coming

53:34

our way? And if

53:37

we know, we feel better without them than how

53:39

can we create a life that's supportive

53:42

of that. Right?

53:44

Where it's not so

53:45

easy to reach

53:48

for something

53:49

that doesn't make us feel good. Like, what do we need to

53:51

really make that day to day happen? And

53:53

how can we hold ourselves

53:56

accountable to make a

53:58

life that's in

53:59

alignment with what we need and what

54:02

we want.

54:04

I know there are people out there who do the social media thing

54:06

very healthily. I just I've

54:09

never met them. IIIII

54:11

maybe I need some

54:14

new role models here at this area.

54:16

I I don't know. But I like to believe

54:18

that there's people out

54:20

there who who who have a very healthy relationship to

54:22

social media. So if you're out there,

54:24

I was gonna say,

54:26

DM me.

54:27

don't DM me. Okay? Don't

54:30

DM me. But maybe, like,

54:32

shoot me an email or something I'd

54:33

love to talk. Okay.

54:36

I'm

54:36

wishing you a week

54:38

of fantastic sleep. That I'm

54:40

wishing you a week of fantastic sleep.

54:43

of a sense of steadiness inside

54:45

of

54:45

yourself where you're just on

54:47

solid ground and

54:50

some peace. Yeah.

54:51

Some deep rest and peace

54:53

for you, my love.

54:54

Have

54:55

a beautiful beautiful rest

54:57

of the day. I'll

54:58

be back next week. Thank

55:01

you

55:01

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55:02

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