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Welcome to the Future Chia Podcast. I'm Leon Fitzpatrick. And I'm Jos Stowa.

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And we'll be talking about everything from Taoism to design to traditional Chinese

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medicine and everything in between. And we talk about how to make purpose out of life and life out of purpose. Whatever that means.

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Join us for our next amazing adventure into the unknown.

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Music.

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We are in the middle of the woods.

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We've got a little log cabin in the woods.

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It is a log cabin. It is a full-on dedicated log cabin made by a woodworker right in the woods.

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And it is a perfect tourist about because we are on an ascending slope of the

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hill where the descending valley

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moves towards the water because down there is the river and the dam,

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and the ascending hill is up towards the hill.

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Hill, and we are facing exact perfect location of north, south, east, and west.

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And we are right in the middle of that hill, and we are surrounded by just nature.

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Yeah, and literally, because we're sitting outside at the moment. Yeah, we're sitting outside. So we're pretty nature-y.

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So I'd say, and we got, we're surrounded by basically only trees,

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birds, lot of kangaroos, and quite a few snakes. Yeah.

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So I'm sitting here having my lunch, see a snake running around. But they're cool.

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I mean, look, they're leaving me alone, I'll leave them alone.

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I don't have any issues with them. Well, I'm sitting with my back to the garden, so if you see a snake behind me,

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll let you know. Yeah, yeah. They're not that big. I mean, they're only about three meters.

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Is it a python? Like a carp? I don't know what it is. It is all kind of stuff.

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Some of them look quite interesting, very colorful. Yeah. Yeah.

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Then you see the fact is they hear us before we see them, you know? That's true.

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They got no interest in biting us, you know?

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Because they're losing venom and other things to do. That's pretty optimistic.

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There are other things to do. I mean, look, nature knows its place.

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And we as human are a bit of a thorn in the eye to them because we don't quite fit in.

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And I can see it every morning when I do my Tai Chi here, because the kangaroos

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are come up and trying to work out what I'm doing.

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Yeah. Yeah, and because obviously some of the moves resemble the nature of the kangaroo.

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They stand up and then you've got that box with each other. They're quite good with boxing.

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And they have a lot of leg strength too. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's one kangaroo

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that's a bit of a concern to me sometimes because he's slightly taller than me. Yeah.

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And I'm 1.96m. So he actually was like 2m away from me and he stood up and he

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looked at me and I thought, oh, probably better move to different lanes. Yeah, maybe he was there first, I guess.

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Because he didn't move. And you're on a nature preserve here, right?

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So no, the animals have never really- Yeah, it's a community,

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coastal waters community. So there's not cats allowed, not dogs allowed.

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So the result of that is everything's just very much integrated with nature. And you can really tell.

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It's by itself now. And because we're obviously neighboring to a long-term forest

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anyway, so we're right at the end of this big terrain, and there's just endless forest behind us.

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And then it's quite a few hills before it actually turns into some kind of allotment

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which is called civilization in front of a village.

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And so it's pretty Armageddon-proof.

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Yeah, it's pretty hard to get to. Yeah, so if the shit hits the fan,

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or when the shit hits the fan, we probably won't notice.

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Yeah, and there's no phone signal here. So you've got really good Wi-Fi,

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though. Yeah, you've got incredible. You may be able to check out that. Yeah, one of the guys who lives here,

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he's an IT visit from Silicon Valley, and when COVID hit, he couldn't return.

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So he decided to convert the whole place into an underground internet with its own satellite.

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Yeah, right. So you've got 200 megabytes per second internet,

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which is... It's about 150 more than I have, I think.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like 100 times faster than NBN, and it's got nothing to do with Telstra.

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Yeah, that's nice. So if there's Telstra out there at the soldiers,

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we're still on. Yeah, you're right. They're rebels here, which is good. And so there's people who don't fit into

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the society, which is good. Yeah. And because that's exactly where we need to head. We need to move towards like

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basically officially say society is,

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you are living the wrong way. It's time to speak up. Yeah.

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I mean, look at what happened when everyone tried to, you know,

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it was, everyone was so worried about fitting in, look what they did and said

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and the way they behaved, you know, and then I see people who,

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you know, on whatever side of the battle they're on, they're just desperately

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wanting to go back to the way it was. And you see people like, oh, it's going to take decades or a hundred years to

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recover from all the damage that was done, not from the virus,

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but the reaction to it, you know, like education systems and financial financial systems.

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I read that and I thought, it's completely the wrong way to talk about it. Yeah, it will not work.

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You can't try and get it back. You can't try and recover from it.

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It's ridiculous. You have to move. Clearly, we've got to move in another direction, and you can see it now.

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But the trying to return to normal, I still hear people say that, never be the way it was.

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I'm like, well, that's probably not necessarily a totally bad thing,

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but the clawing to it and trying to recover it or reclaim it is not going to work.

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Yeah, we just have to acknowledge the old way of living is finished, it's dying,

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and societies of the old that are established are dying, and as a result of

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that, something new is coming up, which is worse than the name of the game being here in the physical.

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It's a transformation from yin to yang. And it's just like for us,

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it's just so profound, not for most of us who are living right now,

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that this is like one of the biggest transitions we have seen in the development of humanity.

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I've never seen it. And so I grew up in the 60s as a teenager,

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so I listened to the stories of my parents during the war and the transition they went through.

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But it was still a gradual process of change, not since I was like… Decades, yeah.

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And not so much like a fundamental shift in ideologies and in particular,

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not this shift in what you actually believe in and what to actually hold on

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to, right to the point of what the fuck is life? Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, that's for certain. Yeah. Yeah, so it's just like this incredible confusion

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now amongst what is actually the whole purpose of all this behind this.

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Really, it acquires new ways of living that we can integrate a guidance system

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that is actually implemented within us.

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I mean, this is why I love the Taoism because the Taoism is...

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It's the philosophy that is based on transformation. So it understands that

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the transition is a natural ingredient of life.

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It's essential for the evolution of humanity and for the consciousness.

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Because in Taoism, it's very clear. The only purpose of the human body is to allow the soul consciousness to have

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a platform to operate from in order to evolve itself.

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Itself so it requires the stimulus of

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the of the external that now acts on

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the on the body which then causes all kind of like

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emotionality but that process is essential in order to actually impact on the

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soul to grow yeah and so then when it's returning it has got a higher density

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yeah it got a higher vibration it's got a higher far more solid experience of itself yeah and so Well,

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Taoism understood right from the start that this is really the reason for being here.

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So, therefore, it developed a guideline and a lifestyle and a medicine that

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incorporates the tradition. So, I did understand that things eventually come to an end.

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Yeah. Yes? Yeah. Yeah. I was reading about the word, you hear about Armageddon and apocalypse.

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And I'm not sure about Armageddon, but I know the etymology of the word apocalypse is not negative.

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It's used as a negative term, but I think it's a shift or a change or something like that.

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I've got to read the exact description, but we use these words and it's like

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the end of everything and the apocalyptic is always an apocalyptic movie or

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a timeline is a negative thing, but you can't have a new thing without the old thing going somewhere, it has to go somewhere,

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it has to disappear, it has to be destroyed or something has to happen quite dramatically to it.

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And I think it means that it's not a gradual change, it's a very quick change

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in the timeline line of things right yes but i think you're i think you're right

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about that even what you see. In the media and where people are behaving what we're talking about there's you

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know it's only been a few years since everything completely upended

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and now it's been changing quicker and quicker and quicker so it

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seems like whatever's happening is is compacting and

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i'm having we had this chat this during the week about time and

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i'm just the experience of time now is such a strange thing

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to me things i thought i was um you know i'll do that i'll

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get to that you know you know when the year ended last year i'm like

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oh i guess early january i'll have this done mid january there and then

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suddenly it was like late january and it was

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completely like fog like it was it was doing stuff but now

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i had this i was trying to retract what i had been doing and it

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was just like this kind of fog like like time's just going going look at my

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watch and it's two hours later three hours later next day it's a very unusual

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feeling so there's i read a year a couple years ago that there was there were

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you know physicists you know on the very technical side were looking looking

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at time and they actually said that measure of time, time actually is moving faster,

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to the way the big bang occurred in the expansion of the universe.

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So they were trying to measure time moving more quickly.

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Mm-hmm . And then there's our perception of time, which-

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I was training this week with our teacher, Nathan, and we're doing standing.

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We're doing posture standing. And Qigong standing is one thing, but when you're in a posture and you start,

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say, five, 10 minutes, 20 minutes, you notice then time does slow down if you're

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in some sort of discomfort or pain. And I just thought that's an interesting way to not control it,

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but to experience it differently, to put yourself in a different situation,

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something uncomfortable or something that's difficult. Call and suddenly you're like you know everything

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seems to reduce and slow down to almost you know stand still

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but then when you're maybe distracted or trying

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to distract yourself or you're getting dragged along by other people's expectations

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or the news or whatever suddenly you're being dragged by it you know it's like

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you're out of control of it because you've you've you're not doing your own

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thing and i thought that was really interesting that this happened to me this

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week that was like oh right it's um there's a very easy way that i can the The

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world around you might be doing something, but you can actually manipulate that on your own and the way you perceive it.

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Control sounds like the wrong word, but you're able to affect it.

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I just wonder if everyone was doing that together, would that actually- Yeah.

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This is obviously where quantum physics now is coming more and more and more

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into the play because quantum physics now has observations that previously before

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that was not available to be measured.

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I mean, if you use the word measured in this context.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because obviously, it was always the assumption that there's

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more than just the dimension that we perceive like in the three or four dimensional

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world. I mean, dimension means measurement.

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So according to the quantum physicist Michio Kaku, they can measure 11 dimensions now. are.

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And so when it comes to time, obviously, it always depends on what dimension

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you're actually operating in. So to the latest understanding, our mind perceives itself in all 11 dimensions.

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So it's our mind can perceive itself in the fourth, fifth, sixth,

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seventh, eighth dimension according to them.

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So what it means is that obviously according to the measurement of the specific

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other dimension is that means time is different.

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Yeah, very right. Yes, obviously within this dimension.

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Dense reality as we perceive it within the three-dimensional

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world up down yeah and then then depths

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xyz yeah yeah x y that so then you

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got the measurement of also then you got the measurement of the

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the the time the the time in there

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which makes it fourth dimensional but obviously what's going

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on here is the factor that actually

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within this is your perception of of who you are as a local reference point

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that according to the latest understanding in quantum physics with quantum entanglement is non-local.

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So we within the three-dimensional domain perceive ourselves as local,

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but then once we're moving in a different way of dimension, it becomes more and more non-local.

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Yeah, so that means time moves outside the reference point of being local.

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Now that means it has got a totally different pace. And because when you're

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doing a touchy posture, you are X, Y, Z.

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So therefore, time perceives itself within that influence of X, Y, Z. Z.

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But once you start meditating, it's X, Y, Z, S, T, E, W.

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And suddenly the measurements are not within three angles, and not four angles.

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And obviously now it has got totally different ways of perceiving it.

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So you're moving between them? Is that a way to look at it? Like if you had, I don't know how many episodes

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ago, 10 episodes ago, you had an analogy about, I think it was all the Tao,

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the yin-yang, and using an analogy of projector, the film, the bulb,

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the screen, and that was how we can, reality? Is there a way?

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Yeah, that's within the X, Y, that. Yeah. So you got the projector,

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the light, and then you got the screen. Yeah. So that's within the three-dimensional domain. And then,

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obviously, that movie that you see on the screen is exactly within the experience

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of that linear progression. So if we were to talk about... Because you've got a local reference point.

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Yes. If we were to talk about what you're talking about, how would you then...

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Is there an analogy you could use to explain then, once we get outside that

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third dimension, fourth dimension, up to 11, is there a spatial way to explain

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that spatially in terms of, like, to get an image of how that's working?

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Like, if you're moving between... Able to move between those dimensions through meditation or some other way

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is there is it like going through a walking through a wall into another

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space is it or does that not work you know

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what i mean like a way to visually represent that or

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talk about that obviously we're trying to explain the complete orientation within

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within the limitation of a three-dimensional spatial already today we're on

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a sephiroth there's an audio podcast so it's even worse than that Maybe we should

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drop LSD and then we are able to actually- Yeah, we'll be right back.

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I'll have a brief intermission. I mean, obviously, they're measuring 11 dimension at this stage.

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It doesn't mean that it's going to be all that. Yeah, quantum physicists,

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according to Michio Kaku. Yeah. So we have to quote those guys because I can't speak as an authority.

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I just only have to say according to them. Yeah. Because I can't even get my

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head around what it means to be fifth dimensional or sixth dimensional. Right. Yeah.

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So, they have got ways of measuring in order to have come to that conclusion.

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For them, it's obvious that there is. However, where is their consciousness

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in that moment in them to perceive it as such?

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Yeah. Which is obviously a totally different debate.

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So, at this stage, they're measuring 11. I remember my father.

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He studied engineering and physics at university in the 1930s.

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And he was highly influenced by the quantum mechanics of physicists,

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because that was obviously the big thing back in the day, in the 1930s,

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because he was at university in Berlin and Einstein was the hero.

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Yeah. And Berlin was pretty much like the philosophy center.

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And that's where everything was happening. There was all the drugs are going

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down, all the music's going down, All of the politics going up and the physics erupting. What year?

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1935. Okay. Yeah. So he was in the time when he was pretty much at its peak.

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And they were heavily influenced by this, when Einstein saw in terms of that

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it's all relative, and that means it's non-local. So the quantum entanglement idea came in.

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And it was only until about 2000 that it actually was a paper I finally established

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that actually the physical reality is non-local.

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The quantum entanglement means a particle right here can be immediately entangled

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with a particle on galaxies away.

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Right. So that means it's not local, because there's no travel distance between

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the two particles. It's just instant there. So the time does not... However, we perceive ourself, and that's why the observational

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aspect that comes into play. Anyway, my father was part of that student movement that opened up to this new

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thinking because quantum mechanics and quantum physics.

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What my father always said to me was like the first awakening because he observed

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the 60s because I was influenced by the hippies and I said to my father,

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this is the awakening of consciousness and the creering age.

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And he said, the first awakening was quantum physics. Right.

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It moved away from the fact that it's local.

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And I said, what do you mean with that? I keep calling him a weirdo. You're talking about, he's like, no, it's weird.

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Don't be weird. Yeah, he just went off and went on a trend from that.

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It's actually all non-local. And I said, oh, shit, maybe I should smoke what he does.

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I actually had a joint with him back in the day. Yeah, yeah.

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I smoked a bit of hashish with him and some Southern Comfort.

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He loved Southern Comfort. Yeah, yeah. Whiskey bourbon. Yeah, yeah.

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Like American bourbon. Yeah. And that's when he really opened up about this

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sort of non-locality and what Einstein saw.

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All and and because obviously he said the

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that was pretty much in that time

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they saw themselves as there's an awakening happened right

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yeah so when we talk about awakening now they already

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spoke about the same thing they said wow this is just there's something new

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going on here and they suddenly understood that they're from within that there

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is more than just this this physical world which is mattered by the three dimension

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and if you put movement into it then it's fourth fourth dimension, which is time.

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So they were speaking about that there will come the time soon,

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very, very soon, where we perceive dimensions beyond that.

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So he was already discussing with his friends what this could be.

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I mean, that didn't drop LSD in order to do those debates.

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They actually were fully influenced by university, by academics.

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But it allowed to speculate philosophically on a level that before that was not possible.

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Because Newton said, okay, the apple falls down over the tree,

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and then ask him the question, maybe the earth moves towards the apple.

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Did he say that or someone else said that? Well, Newton, apparently.

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So obviously, that was the first awakening, if you could see,

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maybe the apple doesn't fall down.

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Before that, when a Viking hit someone with an ax on the head,

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it was obvious- Maybe they walked into the ax. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Maybe a bed falls. Maybe a bed falls. So if you go to battle,

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they're heading their head against their head. What yeah yeah you

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could say that yep yeah and so that was

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there was a 1600s you know okay maybe

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it's not quite the way it's delivered so so there was pretty much like the first

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stage of awakening yeah you know the fact of it's pretty radical yeah to say

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hang on it was very obvious everyone here the apple falls down from a tree and

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lands on a fucking ground that's how it is you know And then someone comes up, no,

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it's the other way around. Like, what?

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So that was like completely outrageous. And obviously that's why some people

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did finish off on the statement, got burned, because obviously that allowed.

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Yeah, it's pretty grim, but yeah.

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Yeah, because the church didn't like that. Because obviously there was someone

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interfering with their power. That was obviously, that's an interesting observation that every time there's an awakening.

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There's also the established power, authority, not liking that.

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There's an established ideology. There's all kinds of ideology. I love how we talk about how funny,

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how the Bible is probably one of the most heavily edited books of all time.

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And you just think it's funny that the church was calling bullshit on people

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based on this thing that is complete bullshit.

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That's just been construed and hacked and rewritten and changed and manipulated

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over time to the point where it's just a pure doctrine and just hire the authoritarian ideology.

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And then they go after people who challenge it. And like you said,

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how many people got burned? Yeah, it was because the new idea came through.

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And that new idea came from within. That was an interesting observation that

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my father always told me about. Every time there's a new idea coming into the world, it's actually always coming

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from people, from within. But no one knows where it comes from.

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So there's no rational explanation. behind it so

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that like there was an intent but where did

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this intent come from yeah you know that obviously because my

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father was it you know because consciousness determines what actually

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converts the particle into waveform waveform into particle and all kind of stuff

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so without the consciousness basically without the observation you can't have

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matter as such without the observation you don't have that what we perceive

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as a capsule microphone yeah which which is obviously a spooky action in the

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distance in the first place, but maybe it's a spooky action in the presence. Yeah.

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Spooky action. Why don't you shut up my nose? Or did your dad think about,

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or did you even talk about this to him? Because if he was...

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He was doing the 30s with quantum physics. Yeah, he started engineering,

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but physics was part of it. Because he was an aircraft engineer, and he was part of that secret team,

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which developed the Me 262, the first jet, the S.A. Schmidt.

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Yeah, okay. Yeah, he was part of that secret team, Hitler's secret team.

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And obviously, some guys were kidnapped by the Americans, and the whole thing

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was hijacked. And technical America was better than Brauer.

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But he was in that team. him. And because it was all about moving away from

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a propeller into a jet, no one had the idea of a jet.

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Everyone thought, okay, you have to be mechanically, you're going to create

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that propeller and that creates a turbulence in the air and that moves it forward.

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But what about you go the other way? Yeah, suck it in and light it on fire and

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push out the back. Once again, where did the intent come from?

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Before the jet, no one understood what a jet dead wars. Now it's envious.

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So he was part of that development and in order to get into that,

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you had to really as he said, we have to push the envelope.

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And it actually came from those guys. Pushing the envelope comes from the engineers who developed planes.

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Because that's the wing of the plane.

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Like the Messerschmitt has got this beautiful wing formation that has got this perfect angle.

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So it can go go very fast and vertically down into the ground.

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And just before it hits the ground, it can instantly move itself up.

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So obviously, in order to develop that, they had to push the envelope,

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meaning quite a few pilots lost their life by doing it. And then he went back to the drawing board.

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And then eventually, they got it right. But those Messerschmitts were enormously

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effective planes because they were faster than people could shoot at them.

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Yeah, and because so pushing the envelope had to allow them to get into the,

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into the matrix of reality and forces.

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But then, in order to develop the jets, you had to go into other aspects,

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and that allowed them not to put into what quantum mechanics said to say in

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terms of water impact dislocality, and because you actually work with a totally

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different way of working with energy. And that's what he always said to me, Because they understood that without the

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observation, the waveform will not turn on the particle, so it will not become the particle.

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Right. So that means when there's a new idea coming into the world,

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where did that come from? Right, without it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not externally stimulated.

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Maybe someone having disagreement with how the physical world is developing

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and then suddenly got an idea about it. But once again, where did that come from?

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Because it always comes from a different source. It comes from somewhere.

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And because it comes from somewhere, that's why you always say to me,

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that's most likely that there are more than just four dimensions.

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Because that where the idea comes from already exists in a different realm.

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Because whatever the intent comes in, it's based on fact, on a law.

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But we haven't perceived it as such. And then the engineers of back in the days,

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they obviously had the intent and then, okay, how can we move towards that?

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And so it was perceived metaphysically. Yeah.

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By transcending the realms of the three- to four-dimensional world by going

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into multidimensional realities, but then had to be very, very grounded because

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engineers are not people who go into conspiracy theories. Technically, no.

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Well, no. Yeah, that's speculated. Yeah. So then you had to be really,

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really, really centered and grounded in order to put it into form.

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Yeah. So they're sort of tethering it somehow. I guess if you think about design

27:33

and engineering and people who make things and actually produce things that

27:36

you can see and touch and feel. They actually have to be quite, you said grounded, they have to actually be able to pull that.

27:42

So you've got those things floating around, maybe passing through.

27:44

In order for it to come to you, you have to be like a lightning rod or a receiver, like a touchpad, right?

27:51

Yeah. According to their speculation, the intent is instrumental.

27:57

The idea is instrumental. Without the idea, you actually don't have a change.

28:02

So that idea is definitely not within this three-dimensional world.

28:07

You can't, because otherwise you're reproducing or recreating something that already exists.

28:13

This happens a lot, right? People see what someone else is doing and copy it.

28:17

So I don't do well. It's not an idea. No, it's a copy.

28:20

Yeah. And it happens a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And so if you keep copying,

28:24

then you actually take the spirit out of it. Yeah. Yeah, because the idea is spirit.

28:27

Yeah. And the idea comes from from something outside this three-dimensional,

28:34

four-dimensional world. Yeah. It comes from somewhere else because the idea is always correct.

28:40

That's the beauty of it. So when someone like back in the day,

28:44

the development of the smartphone, when someone had the idea of this first iPhone

28:49

or smartphone, obviously that came from somewhere.

28:53

Yeah. Yeah, because it turned into something that is pretty working.

28:58

Yeah, yeah. Well, actually that was weird. So it was an outrageous idea and

29:01

he was not like some sort of tripper.

29:04

Yeah. Well, we talked about Tesla a couple of episodes ago. He mentioned in

29:07

the late 1800s, they said at some point in the future, people will have a device

29:11

that they carry in their pocket that will connect them to everywhere and around the world instantly.

29:15

Yeah. But he had no... At that point, he had barely even had telephones, right?

29:20

I don't think he had telephones. He had a pad on the radio, but there was no

29:22

form fact. There was nothing to suggest that that would be...

29:25

He wasn't copying that from someone else, for example.

29:28

So stuff like that. So he perceived it from a different dimension. Yeah, yeah.

29:32

I was reading about, and I don't want to go too much on a tangent because there's

29:34

a few things I want to go back to in a second, but everything I've been reading

29:38

about since I was a kid seems to all be related. So you have these pyramids, Tesla, UFOs, all this sort of stuff.

29:44

They have some sort of crossover relationship.

29:47

But I've been reading about this thing called the Black Knight Satellite,

29:50

which is an object that's actually in Earth's orbit. Whether it's been there

29:54

permanently or not is unknown. It was acknowledged by NASA in the 50s and it's It's been photographed outside of the ISS.

29:59

It's been recorded as a real thing. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not there.

30:03

It's for sure there. What it is is unknown, basically.

30:07

And people have these very broad theories about what it actually is.

30:10

But it's been there supposedly for over 10,000 years, 15,000 years.

30:14

And there's some connection with Tesla. Because Tesla, I mentioned that in our

30:18

last episode, or two episodes ago, that he would say that he was receiving information

30:22

from somewhere else. and he said he picked up signals that were not natural signals from space.

30:29

This is again 1800 so it's not like he had high tech equipment and some people

30:33

mentioned this satellite might be some sort of receiver or relay or something

30:35

that you can get things from but the idea that.

30:39

This thing is these things are in the ether are coming through other dimensions is

30:42

interesting because any anything about ufos i read the more

30:46

sense it makes when you start to realize they're not coming from another planet they're

30:48

coming from another they're here and they're swapping between

30:51

dimensions or realities or they're in the same a different plane well through

30:56

wormholes or what yeah that's right yeah so it's almost like it's not like after

30:59

because everyone keeps saying oh there's no way they could travel so far and

31:03

like but what if it's not you're using this old-fashioned logistics that rockets

31:07

and stuff. Yeah, just understanding time is like a spiral. Yeah.

31:10

And so Wormhole's obviously connecting

31:12

one geographical location of the spiral with the next one. Yeah.

31:18

So that means you can go instantly from, rather than doing the whole linear

31:23

distance, you're actually stepping into the next.

31:26

Yeah. This is all using like, oh, all we know about, you said before,

31:29

no one had the thought jets. Before that, it was like your propeller, what else are you going to do?

31:33

And then there's chance, but then you have rockets. And then at the moment, we're still trying to go, well, if we have rocket technology,

31:38

it's going to take years to get to Mars, and it's going to take years and this

31:41

and that. So it's still a very restricted thinking.

31:44

It's highly advanced, right? What Elon's done with SpaceX is very, very advanced, but then it looks almost

31:50

limited then when you think about what it's achieving.

31:52

It's using solid fuel and has to break out of the Earth's atmosphere with immense

31:56

amounts of energy and emissions and all these sort of things.

31:59

So yeah, I do wonder that there's some sort of leap that has to happen or that

32:03

kind of what you mentioned, that outside the box again.

32:06

And I feel like that's missing from a lot of things, how we deal with energy,

32:10

how we do it, how we mix it up. No, I mean, the fact is that it can happen tomorrow.

32:15

Yeah, yeah. Because those things, one thing is for sure, that everything is

32:22

accelerating far on a faster pace than ever before.

32:26

Yeah. Yeah, so that's definite. Indefinite.

32:28

So when we look at the development of the rockets in terms of traveling distance and things like that.

32:35

So we're looking at that development over, say, 80 years.

32:38

But the pace of evolution is accelerating so much faster. And that means we're

32:45

not looking at 80 years in the future.

32:48

That is exactly where the thinking stops us by observing possibilities,

32:57

because the intent of understanding it needs to come through. Yeah.

33:02

And I think there's already people having that, the ideas coming through. I think so, yeah.

33:08

I'm pretty sure about that, obviously. But then, as we said,

33:12

every time there's an awakening, there always will be the existing power that will not accept it.

33:20

And, oh, there's a car going past. He's excited about it. Very unusual situation.

33:25

I've seen a car go past. Yeah, and there was a kangaroo's drove.

33:29

Yeah, maybe someone like exploring something. Maybe someone got lost at the

33:33

end of the universe. Yeah, kangaroos at Hot White. I've never seen this. That's the first car I've seen go by. It's Bolivia.

33:41

Maybe we should go there and say hello. I reckon someone from the city's got lost.

33:49

It is very easy to get lost. It is. It's very easy to get lost. Yeah, it is.

33:52

If you continue following those tracks, you suddenly have no idea where you are.

33:58

So, obviously, the biggest problem we have is that we've got the power of the

34:06

established old that doesn't want the new. No, it happens all the time.

34:11

New technologies get, what, people who come up them disappear?

34:15

Yes, yeah. But the thing is, obviously, it always breaks through in the end.

34:19

Yeah. That's another thing. It always breaks through.

34:22

Yeah. So when all the developments of the past, it was brought through,

34:26

they were initially rejected. Yeah. I mean, just like when the first train came up, I mean, that was developed.

34:32

How much uproar that caused, you know? And then the first car,

34:36

and then, my God, everyone's speaking up. It should go faster than 18 kilometers per hour.

34:40

Yeah, there was a big issue with Concorde's supersonic. Yeah,

34:44

yeah. That was an incredible breakthrough in terms of just everything, right?

34:48

Like you could go New York to Paris in three hours or something.

34:52

The narrative was there was a noise issue because they'd break the sound barrier.

34:57

So when they're coming in at and out of airports, there'd be a huge boom,

35:01

and then everyone, you know. So there's obviously, it would have been a way around that, but the technology

35:04

was then vilified as being unsafe because there was a crash or something like that.

35:09

And that's all it took. and I took a few narratives, an accident,

35:13

and then that was it. It was gone. This is in the 70s. Yeah,

35:15

yeah. So this is 50 years ago, right? And then the Boeing 747 has just technically been retired as of like 2020.

35:22

That was designed in the late 60s. Right so in general there's been almost in that respect

35:27

almost a freeze on innovation in that

35:30

one one area alone and there would have been all these

35:33

emergent technologies and needs to figure out different ways and efficiency and

35:36

but the now supersonic travel was back it's like now they're building them again

35:39

so there was this breakdown pause and then they're like actually that was we

35:43

should probably go revisit that because there's something there and that's i'm

35:46

not saying that's the future at all i'm just saying it's an example of like

35:49

this is what happens when you know it It happens in corporate espionage all

35:53

the time. Some companies are like what someone's doing. They either sabotage it by claiming that they're unsafe or actually literally

35:59

sabotaging vehicles and things happens all the time, or they'll buy out a technology

36:03

and just put it on a shelf somewhere in like an Indiana Jones style aircraft

36:07

hangar in a box and then forget about it. It's gone.

36:09

So we don't want your competitive thing or people invented get disappeared or whatever happens.

36:15

So there's always a force against that. There's some change happens.

36:18

It's challenging the status quo, and then it gets buried or hidden or whatever happens.

36:24

But I agree with what you're saying. I think then it finds a way.

36:28

It always finds a way. It always has in the past. It always has found its way.

36:32

So one thing's for sure, the level of consciousness is rising.

36:39

When you compare that to 40 years ago, I remember the days when I started working

36:44

in social social work back in the year 1981 when I worked in Australia for the feminist services.

36:51

The level of consciousness in comparison to where it's now in 2024, it's a different world.

36:56

So it's just a much, much less. So as consciousness rises, that means also people

37:01

are more able to perceive the value of a new idea rather than rejecting it.

37:08

If someone got a low consciousness and then suggest them, okay,

37:12

it's the earth moving moving up to the apple, not the other way around,

37:16

they're going to look at them dumb and hit them with their head. Yeah.

37:19

So, whereas if a high consciousness listens to that proposal,

37:24

then they're going to speculate, okay, yeah, that could be okay.

37:27

If that's the case, it could be because of this. So, a higher consciousness always will actually embrace new ideas more than a lower consciousness.

37:35

And, like, there's a lot of people say life's getting worse. These are my pet hates.

37:44

Yeah. And so many people are, life's getting worse, life's getting worse.

37:48

Now it's the other way around. It's accelerating to a new level. It's ascending. It's not descending.

37:54

And all this misunderstanding of the Kali Yuga and stuff like that,

37:58

it's getting worse and worse. over, now it's ascending.

38:00

Even like the top experts in the US say, yeah, we are in the ascending curve.

38:07

Because when it comes to timeline and when the idea was set up with,

38:12

okay, what is actually the progression of a certain cycle? It was depending on what,

38:18

what dimensional local point you're referring the timeline to.

38:22

But since then, we have moved up to so many different dimensions.

38:26

We are perceiving so many different ways of living now that like an ancient

38:30

idea of a timeline is not relevant anymore. Yeah, it's not relevant.

38:35

Yeah, it's just not relevant. As Einstein said, it's relative. It's not linear.

38:40

So what they saw like tens of thousands of years ago, whatever,

38:44

that related to a very specific progression.

38:48

In relation to that three-dimensional dimension, within that zodiac of that time. Yeah.

38:53

But as we have measured 11 dimensions now, so as soon as you move into a different

38:58

dimension, that doesn't apply anymore. Right. It's a totally different time progression.

39:03

And suddenly, whatever, when they say it's 27,000 years, it might be actually 2,000 years.

39:08

Yeah. Or it might be even going into some kind of spiral curve where it actually

39:14

accelerates suddenly and then slows down again, whatever, you know?

39:17

We don't know, but the fact is that consciousness determines where the local

39:24

reference point to a timeline is established.

39:27

Without your consciousness, without your observation, you don't have that reference

39:30

point, because as scientists have established, life is non-local,

39:34

according to a famous article in the American Scientist.

39:39

Right, yeah. So it's now a fact.

39:43

So, me, in my position, having worked with people for decades,

39:48

for four, five decades now, I've seen the rise in consciousness in comparison to the war.

39:54

So, if there are more people now with higher consciousness than 40 years ago,

40:00

and there's more, once again, 40 years ago, there were more people with higher

40:03

consciousness than 40 years prior. Sure. Cool. So, as more, like, the fact is, how many acupuncture clinics do

40:10

you see in your environment now? Yeah. Like, 40 years ago, no one knew what acupuncture is. Yeah,

40:14

now it's covered by healthcare. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, how many people, like, 40 years ago, you would have said,

40:20

oh, I do Reiki. I don't know. Yeah. So these days, everyone knows what Reiki is. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

40:28

And 50% of the Australians use acupuncture. Yeah. It isn't really that much. 50%, yeah.

40:36

50%. So acupuncture is not a mechanical art.

40:40

Acupuncture is multidimensional. Yeah. Acupuncture, you open up the meridians

40:44

and you allow different kinds of intense and ideas come through to the meridians.

40:48

And you actually have a different reference point wanted that moment because

40:51

how many people get off the table and say, how long was that? I lost all track of time.

40:56

So it could be five minutes, could be two hours.

41:00

So that's a classic example of your consciousness is a traveling multidimensional.

41:05

What I mentioned before about going into a posture is that discomfort and all

41:10

the things that start happening is like, as soon as you're doing something strenuous,

41:13

then it's like, really, you're like, man, how long is this going to go for?

41:15

Yeah, three-dimensional. Right, exactly. So, So, sorry, acupuncture, I'd add another level into that,

41:19

because it's not what you just said. It seems like it's purely physiological, needle in, right? But then beyond that,

41:26

almost that doesn't make sense. The only thing that is X, Y, that is the location of the acupuncture point and

41:33

the insertion of the needle in that point, and then the stimulation,

41:37

which is a mechanical movement of the head.

41:39

What happened then is transcending the three-dimensional reality.

41:44

Because it's like the needle's barely, what, a couple of millimeters in your

41:48

skin or something, sometimes sitting on the top almost. So even that doesn't explain it. Yeah. It clearly goes somewhere completely

41:54

different very quickly. Yeah, straight out bang. So I guess a hot tip if you want to time travel,

41:59

go get some acupuncture. Yeah. I mean, that's why you can do all kinds of stuff with acupuncture.

42:05

I mean, according to some sources, acupuncture was the main modality in a plenty of times.

42:12

So it's not like Michio, one of the big authorities in the esoteric acupuncture

42:19

scenes, he always argued that China's not the origin of acupuncture.

42:23

It's actually Atlantis. Who said this? What's his name? I forgot his name. The originator of esoteric acupuncture is

42:29

a branch you study in America.

42:32

You need a licensed degree first, and then you just do a five-year study. Okay.

42:38

And so, yeah. I studied it myself when I was in America, I did some courses

42:43

through them and things like that. So they're arguing the point, and they're all like proper PhDs,

42:47

aren't they, to do those courses. They're not like trippers.

42:50

I mean, when you do get the acupuncture, it's trippy. There's no doubt about

42:54

it. It goes far beyond anything I experienced on ordinary drugs.

42:58

And so it's a new level in itself. So, yeah, but they're arguing the point that

43:04

acupuncture comes from the Atlantean times.

43:09

China's not the origin of China's medicine. So, you could say it's Atlantean medicine.

43:14

Right, because same with Egypt and all those places that we assume originated these things.

43:21

Everything we read about that, they're already doing it.

43:24

Yeah i love it so i'm like well how far back that

43:26

had to have come if they were comfortable using this stuff and you

43:30

know what we read and listened to a lot is that the pyramids

43:33

they were just they were just there they occupied them they didn't make them

43:35

yeah so what what goes on with those pyramids is just like the more you the

43:40

more you know about it the more puzzling it becomes great i love it i'm gonna

43:43

be reading and listening more about it and like i'm more not confused i guess

43:46

in a way but i don't care it's just great it's just amazing to go and just accept

43:49

the fact that we We don't know that. It's not what we think it is. And I think the fact that academics and historians

43:56

and people who are so, and archaeologists who are so, just won't let that go.

44:00

Fighting, this is the establishment versus the, you know, wouldn't have acknowledged

44:04

that they're there. But who listens to them? Exactly.

44:07

They're losing their ground. They don't have, you know, you look at who,

44:09

like we see Randall Carlson and Grant Hancock and all these people are in that field.

44:14

They're sort of harnessing social media and, you know, being on podcasts and

44:18

have massive audiences. It's well, these other guys, you're right,

44:21

the gatekeepers, no one gives a, you said they're almost irrelevant now,

44:24

but they're roadblocking. They're still getting in the way.

44:29

Exactly. And I mean, I think it's- This is, those guys, those historians would

44:35

have believed that paper narrative in line with the old power. Yeah.

44:42

The people will just speak about that. I mean, that belonged to the dying institutions.

44:48

Yeah. No one goes there anymore. Yeah, but they can't. They can't actually admit

44:50

that. So the best thing they can do is just shut up.

44:55

They won't. I think it's breaking your worldview, and it's quite difficult if

44:59

someone comes and says everything, you know, your whole worldview is wrong.

45:02

But I think they would find that to be interesting. I'm like, okay, well, let's go find some better answers.

45:07

That's the nature of life. Once you hit the block, you hit the wall,

45:13

okay, I'm going to restart again. But I think it's also, there's a,

45:16

I don't think people, some of them can handle a journey without an end.

45:19

I think in academia, the traditional sense is achieving knowledge and reaching

45:24

a point where you can no longer be challenged and you know everything,

45:27

you're an expert, and then the end, underline.

45:31

There's no way to, you're not learning more, you're an authority on that information,

45:34

so therefore you tell people below you truths. So they don't, I think they can handle that. They're at the top and then the

45:40

mist is cleared and there's another peak above them.

45:43

They don't want to even deal with that but you look at like any form of knowledge

45:46

or learning or information or training or martial art you don't ever believe

45:50

you've gotten to the top you know there's an it's an endless journey you just

45:53

keep going so this stuff for me is like i don't think i'm gonna get to like

45:57

maybe we don't know the actual truth whatever that means but it doesn't matter it's.

46:03

And find out that there is way more to it, versus just going and hitting an

46:06

end. Yeah, that's why I like the Taoist. I don't know.

46:09

That's why you need Tai Chi, because as soon as you start doing it,

46:12

if you know nothing, suck. I still do it. Every once in a while, I'm like, man, I've been doing it for

46:18

10 years, and I suck at it. You can never get there. No.

46:22

It's always moving ahead of you. It's totally fine. I don't want to be a belt, or a master.

46:27

It's impossible. That's why I think Niels Bohr adopted the Tai Chi symbol as

46:33

his coat of arms, the famous quantum physicist, the Danish quantum physicist,

46:37

because of that fact that Tai Chi is non-local.

46:40

It always is ahead of you, and you can't get a grip of it, whoever.

46:47

I mean, where did it come from? No one knows anyway.

46:50

Way yeah and the fact is like it's it's it's putting

46:53

you into a into a three-dimensional pause

46:56

by using a fourth dimensional effect of the

46:59

time by moving but then the experience is beyond and

47:03

it goes multi-dimensional very quickly yeah and and then it suddenly will be

47:07

getting shaken out of it and you're trying to make sense of it yeah and then

47:10

you need to bring you bring them you your body up to that what you perceived

47:15

yeah so it always brings in a new idea yeah and And then you just have to take your body towards that.

47:21

Yeah. So, it's profound.

47:24

Yeah. And, yeah, once again, it's a form that the gods have used,

47:30

and it's probably from Atlantean times and Lemurian times and whatever other

47:34

civilizations beforehand. And then, once again, where did they get it from? Well, yeah,

47:39

I was listening to – and you listened to him too, Billy Carson.

47:42

He was an interesting – I recommend you look him up if you haven't heard of him before.

47:45

He's a very interesting character. He's talked a lot about, yeah,

47:48

everything imaginable, you know, UFOs and things, but also these Emerald tablets,

47:51

which are sort of, you know, 30, 40,000 year old tablets, which are a real thing.

47:56

They're the sort of basis for a lot of alchemy, all these sort of,

47:59

it's hard to even explain that, but the way he talks about stuff is fascinating

48:03

in terms of getting into these origins of things.

48:06

And one of them is mentioning Atlantis wasn't a city, it was a civilization.

48:11

So he said, we often say, oh, the city of Atlantis is a, and there's always

48:15

this fight over if it was real, where was it?

48:18

There's evidence that suggests there was a structure that I think it was Plato

48:21

explained that looks very much like a location in North Africa. America.

48:25

But what Billy said, and I looked into a bit afterwards, is that it's a global

48:29

civilization, not a city. And that made perfect sense when you start to think about why it's such a mythology.

48:35

It's like, oh, it's just one magical city when everything came from.

48:38

But if you go, no, it was actually much, much louder than that,

48:41

which is why we have pyramids on every major continent in the world and why

48:43

all these things- Yeah, makes sense.

48:46

Civilizations that have very similar designs in the way they iconography from- It wasn't like an age.

48:52

Yeah, an age or a civilization or a reality versus this one special city.

48:57

And then it starts to open up all these other explanations of why we have cultural

49:02

things that from South America to Africa to places that shouldn't have been

49:05

in contact have very similar architecture, arts, all these things.

49:11

Why they actually seem like they're very closely related. Because since it was

49:15

a unifying thing, not just this one mythical place.

49:18

But if you say Atlantis to people, it's ridiculous, silly.

49:22

It's been turned into a trivial thing, like you've got superhero movies,

49:25

they're all underwater and et cetera, et cetera.

49:28

So it's another one of those aspects where it's a doorway into more interesting

49:33

ideas and possibilities on where we come from.

49:36

And to me then, it's interesting that that indicates where we're headed too,

49:40

as we've been here a lot longer, we've done a lot more than we think we have.

49:44

Yeah, and what I like on Billy Carson is that he also says, because a lot of

49:49

people always refer to Atlantis, that means we're going the same fate.

49:54

Yeah, right. And we're going to destroy ourselves again. Yeah.

49:57

You know, that AI is going to be the end of it.

50:00

And as I like his view, when he says, maybe this is how we get the message. Yeah.

50:06

And we won't actually decline. And I feel like, I like what he says,

50:13

we've been here so many times before that we maybe we're getting the idea now.

50:17

And it could be quite possible that this time we're getting it because there's

50:20

an awakening now that is, I mean,

50:24

of course, Newton first, then quantum mechanics, but then the hippies.

50:29

But now there's an awakening, I think that is like really hitting in everyone's

50:35

face that hang on, we don't want this bullshit anymore.

50:38

It's very obvious. And obviously the reason why it's accelerating so fast is

50:42

because obviously the information spread that is now due to internet and things like that.

50:47

And the fact is that the power sources of the old, the old power,

50:50

they can't actually control the internet as such. No, it's interesting.

50:54

They can't. But they can't destroy it. If they destroy that,

50:56

then they lose all their interest. Yeah. I think they messed up there. Yeah, yeah.

51:00

This is a thing, what I can see more and more and more, like the same Yeah, I was just going to say.

51:06

Not see that we are now stronger than them. Yeah, we'll be with the slingshot.

51:12

We are stronger than them. Yeah, it's a David and Goliath situation.

51:15

Like for me, I'm totally fascinated about the Tucker Carlson Putin interview

51:21

that came out yesterday. I haven't listened to it yet.

51:23

And so I've already watched it three times because I'm totally fascinated because

51:28

this is a game changer, that interview. you.

51:33

Firstly, it really highlights how brainwashed the Western world is by the American

51:41

interest, by these power people, Bill Gates, et cetera, whatever name you want to give it.

51:46

But the most striking aspect is

51:48

the high intelligence that Putin has in comparison to someone like Biden.

51:54

Yeah. I've seen some clips and I've read about it. He went on a half an hour

51:57

talk about the history of Russia. And then literally the same day, literally the same day, Biden's have been accused

52:02

of taking sensitive documents, which is what they accused Trump of.

52:06

And they basically, the argument for Biden not being guilty was that he didn't

52:11

have complete mental faculties. So they basically admitted he's a head case on the same day that Putin gives

52:17

this very eloquent two hour long interview. So the contrasts, irrelevant of everything else, irrespective of everything

52:24

that anyone said or did, that alone is amazing.

52:27

Those things happen in the same day, in the same world, in the same reality, theoretically.

52:32

I've been looking at all the,

52:37

Because I'm an observer. I don't take a stand as such. I mean,

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I look at the intelligence.

52:45

I don't have any respect for most of the Australian politicians.

52:49

I'm uneasy. I have no respect. I don't pay attention to what you're saying.

52:52

It doesn't matter if it's good or bad. I can't make sense of that guy.

52:55

There's nothing to get a grip of. No. And Biden, I can't get a grip of.

52:59

I have no idea what's going on. I don't think he knows either.

53:02

Yeah, but there's a lot of people who are brainwashed about Putin.

53:12

I'm not a Putin lover. I'm not a Putin supporter.

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I have got the highest respect for Putin.

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And his intelligence is mind-boggling. So if someone listening hasn't listened

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to the interview, please watch that interview before you.

53:28

Because there's a misrepresentation of him in the Western world.

53:33

But I'm not in the technical stand, the political side. I'm an observer.

53:38

Yeah. And because my life is as a Taoist and a therapist, I observe.

53:43

And then I want to make sense of where people's awareness is because that reflects

53:48

in which way what needs to be implemented in terms of health strategies.

53:53

And so I read the comments.

53:57

Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of comments on YouTube.

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Today, there's already 1 million comments. Yeah. So not 1 million,

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1 million likes and like 300,000 comments.

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So I took one hour to go through most of that. It took quite a few.

54:15

The awakening you can see in there, people are awakening up. Yeah.

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And that is like, because a lot of people, gee, I had no idea about this. Yeah.

54:24

Like this is what comes, what stands out. Yeah.

54:27

I had no idea about this. I had no idea about like, we are completely misled.

54:32

Yeah. Even now see, you know, Of course, Putin will have his dark side.

54:39

There's probably not a good idea to be a journalist in Russia if you oppose

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him. You probably won't see much of the day.

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So free speech, maybe not a good idea in case you're speaking up against Putin.

54:50

Okay, I can see all that part, but his intelligence is undeniable.

54:55

His clarity of vision is undeniable. his ability to speak and to keep a thorough

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process all the way through. And Tucker Carlson really trying to get him off track quite a few times and

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he always brought it back. He always brought it, kept it. So that was obviously such a refresher to all

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this dumb, idiotic, stupidity of the politician we see lately.

55:24

Like if you listen to Alba Nili, it is uniformed woman. I don't even know what his voice sounds like.

55:29

Every time I turn around, I just can't- I can't listen to Biden.

55:33

Yeah. No, it's like- Well, it literally doesn't make sense anyway.

55:37

It's like, is this no one there that makes any sense?

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All the premiers here, the Queensland premier is like, dash,

55:43

shut the fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I can't listen to it. There's no inspiration.

55:49

So we have seen so much negativity lately because of the powers who are trying

55:56

to control the world, trying to make people dumb.

55:59

Yeah, well, the most interesting thing about this is, and I haven't listened

56:02

to the interview and I'm probably on the same page, it's two years after this

56:06

war started and no one's heard from him. There have been how many bullshit interviews with Zelensky?

56:12

Someone posted a contrast of an interview that someone gave him a year or two

56:15

ago and they're like, how are you going emotionally? you know what kind of music

56:18

do you listen to do you have trouble getting to sleep at night and he's got

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sort of teary eyes and it's just complete nonsense yeah right everyone painted

56:24

him as a hero fighting the good fight against this i'm like,

56:27

Whether that's true or not is irrelevant. Why can't we have both sides? Same during COVID.

56:31

It was the biggest problem there was that there was no discussion. There was no debate.

56:36

There was no ability to have it out. One side was right, the other side was wrong.

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And that was the most wrong thing about the whole thing, was that there was

56:43

no ability to have it balanced. And so, before Tucker even posted the interview, there's been this massive kickback

56:50

from the mainstream saying, you're a Russian asset.

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And people were like, like, oh, a journalist doing journalism. Oh, my gosh.

56:58

And like you said, I've only heard some clips. He was asking difficult questions.

57:03

He asked about a journalist who was in prison in Russia.

57:06

He's actually trying to get to the bottom of stuff. He wasn't just there to give the guy support.

57:11

Tucker is fearless. Because we've got to be aware, the presence of Putin will be overwhelming.

57:17

It's not like the presence of Albert Nisi. Not to mention- When you see Albert

57:20

Nisi, you want to kick him in the ass and it's final. Yeah, and going to Russia,

57:24

right? Yeah. So that takes balls.

57:27

He's got a strong presence, plus he's like a black belt in several martial arts. Oh, that's cool.

57:31

Yeah, so he's jiu-jitsu, karate, judo.

57:35

No, the guy knows how to fight. Yeah, okay, interesting. So he knows how to

57:39

presence. So yeah, there's three black belts. Yeah. All right.

57:41

And Steven Seagal is one of his training partners. Okay, you know that.

57:46

That's weird. Yeah, there's some great stuff on YouTube. Put up.

57:51

Vladimir Putin jiu-jitsu, it's like he rolls people.

57:55

Like 12 people attack him, he rolls them. Of course, it could be staged because

57:59

he did your number. Actually, no. You beat me again, Putin. I can't believe it.

58:06

But on Iran, who has got some martial art experience, can tell straight away

58:10

the guy is highly skilled. And I just love the day when Tony Abbott said to Putin, I come to Australia

58:17

on a shirt on front of you. First of all, no one knows what that means.

58:22

I had to look it up. It's some 1940s thing for.

58:28

Snub. Snub, or something, basically. Yeah, it's basically rugby stuff.

58:32

Yeah, that was your one moment in the limelight, in global news,

58:37

and you say something that no one knows what it means, because it's some ancient term.

58:42

And obviously, Tony Abbott didn't know who Putin is.

58:46

And then Putin heard about it. They said, he wants a shirt from me.

58:49

And it had to be explained to him what it means.

58:53

And that's a rugby term. They go in front of chest against chest. And he said, all right.

59:01

It was like a challenge. And then Tony Abbott was advised not to do it.

59:10

Because then I showed Tony Abbott the martial arts skills that Putin has.

59:16

And then he realized, Okay, I bet I don't. Yeah, not very good.

59:18

Yeah. Don't you know the good idea? Yeah. No. Yeah. And so, anyway, so obviously on top of that, Putin wants this big country.

59:29

So there's obviously an enormous power that comes with him that he established himself, yeah?

59:33

The training, the lifestyle, the martial art, and the politics.

59:38

Tucker Carlson, it's amazing how he stands his ground against the fearlessness.

59:42

But what I liked on it, what really got me is like, finally,

59:47

an intelligent discussion.

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Okay, what makes you tick? Who are you? What is behind you?

59:53

And someone was able to actually explain it in such fascinating,

59:58

deeply intelligent then. Yeah. It sort of reminds me, it's one of those 60 Minutes or something back

1:00:04

in the 60s. Yeah, 30 years ago. Edward R.

1:00:07

Murrow, these people are just proper journalists who aren't afraid.

1:00:10

Edward R. Murrow went up against McCarthyism in the US and risks his own safety

1:00:15

and he's like, no, this is my job. And I'm going to go put you on that and I'm going to actually say what I think

1:00:20

because no one's doing it. I mean, that's kind of disappeared.

1:00:24

And that's why I think over the last few years, it really striked me how these

1:00:32

powers trying to make everyone dumb and weak.

1:00:36

When I look at what happens over the last three years, the ruling powers try

1:00:42

to make everyone as dumb, as stupid as possible, and as weak and unhealthy as possible.

1:00:48

Yeah, encouraging and providing the tools and making it as easy as possible to...

1:00:53

And having read the comments on YouTube, the comments on Twitter, Twitter, on X or on X.

1:01:01

I haven't seen any comments on Facebook yet because Putin doesn't like Facebook.

1:01:06

That's right. Yeah, he may- Well, not that much. I agree with him.

1:01:09

Yeah, he made it illegal. He said, nah.

1:01:13

Do you remember when the war started and everyone was trying to be virtue signaling?

1:01:17

So they like, you know, all these companies came out and said, oh, we're not going to provide, I think Facebook was like, we're not going to

1:01:21

provide a service to Russia anymore. McDonald's said we're going to pull out everything. Everyone's like, yeah, thanks.

1:01:27

Anything else is like, Fuck off. I know on Netflix, like, okay,

1:01:29

great. That's actually you doing us a favor. Yeah. The interesting thing is obviously that every time I talk to you,

1:01:36

I mean, to my European friends, because so many sanctions were against Russia

1:01:41

during that time, but Russia is now the number one economy in Europe. Right.

1:01:46

Interesting. Yeah. It's interesting how the Western economy is now so going

1:01:51

down. Well, that's an old tactic, isn't it? I'll embargo them. We're going to stop them getting stuff. And it's like, thanks. less shit.

1:01:59

Completely messed up in the yard. Yeah. Completely the other way around.

1:02:03

And I mean, Germany is so solid and downhill. Sure.

1:02:06

I'm surprised by that. It's crazy. It was such a strong country and now it is

1:02:10

so caught up in that, in this brainwashing of this must come from America,

1:02:16

this American politics lifestyle. Again, I only heard clips, but that's one thing for me to mention is that.

1:02:22

War, like America is the best at the war of propaganda and influencing everyone with media.

1:02:27

So that's what they're tactically the best at, is those things,

1:02:30

which you can see how that happened, especially in the past few years,

1:02:33

how that was kind of emanated from there the way everyone imitated that process,

1:02:37

and it was all from the WHO and Bill Gates and all these idiots.

1:02:40

I don't even want to talk about that anymore. I'm so sick of saying their names,

1:02:43

but it's- Yeah, that's the word. It's like a template. That would make it illegal, you mentioned.

1:02:47

Yeah. People are pushing back though, especially on the WHO's pandemic treaty.

1:02:51

A lot of people are standing up to it and saying, no, we're Slovakia and these

1:02:54

countries, and a lot of people are calling bullshit on us. Yeah,

1:02:56

that's why, once again, this is obviously for me why I think this is us.

1:03:00

That interview wasn't historical moment because I read all the comments,

1:03:05

and all the comments, people are saying, I had enough. Yeah.

1:03:11

It's just fascinating to see that people are now starting to realize they have

1:03:15

been totally been taken down the wrong road.

1:03:20

And And that's exactly the problem of those established powers that want to make us weak.

1:03:25

And people are now, that's it. Yeah. I had enough. Yeah. And just so many comments,

1:03:30

so many comments, obviously, I commented, obviously, also.

1:03:34

300,001 comments. And because that, interviews like that need to be encouraged.

1:03:43

Yeah. And there's no doubt about it, you know, because obviously the more,

1:03:46

I want more interviews like that. Yeah. You know, so that we just like, like we, that we can see,

1:03:54

we, like, I like Putin's view on that.

1:03:57

The idea is to bring different views together because he said,

1:04:01

we got a right brain and we got a left brain and we got the right brain is the

1:04:04

rational, the left brain, the creativity. And by having opposing ideas within

1:04:08

that, because the two different brains actually in one, one head. Yeah.

1:04:13

And that means it's the same as the earth. Yeah. And that's the same as with

1:04:16

East and West. You're just like, he said, it's time to come together and to

1:04:21

create something whole. So, obviously, Western American sources don't want him to say things like that.

1:04:28

Yeah. Because, obviously, that's why the propaganda goes against the American, really negative.

1:04:32

But once again, I'm focusing on the comments, and the comments clearly showing people had enough.

1:04:38

Yeah. And people know this is time not to speak up and just like,

1:04:42

I mean, just like, I don't know anyone who speaks, who wants to support that

1:04:46

old bullshit anymore. Yeah. You know, I don't know anyone.

1:04:48

Yeah. And so maybe this is now the time, this final new awakening,

1:04:53

okay, this is it, and we're just going to create a new world. Fuck yous all.

1:05:01

I can be on a flag, yeah. I don't think we can top that. I think you should probably end on that one.

1:05:10

You heard it from us first, yeah. Fuck yous all.

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All right. Well, yep. Until next time.

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Music.