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Welcome to the Future Chia Podcast. I'm Leon Fitzpatrick. And I'm Jos Stowa.

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And we'll be talking about everything from Taoism to design to traditional Chinese

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medicine and everything in between. And we talk about how to make purpose out of life and life out of purpose, whatever that means.

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Join us for our next amazing adventure into the unknown.

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they sell yeah that's good safe and

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close like that the further we get away from it the more you can see how in

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the hell what is possible, yes like how was how much brain washing possible you know how many people were

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caught up in this yeah and obviously as we're moving more and more away from

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it now we can see yeah it usually takes a minute right a bit of clarity yeah,

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I'm getting more and more people like in my consultations because I do primarily

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because I'm living in the woods now,

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away from everyone you know am I getting safe,

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And so, obviously, it's far too difficult for most people to even drive up here. Is that on purpose?

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It's a business. Yeah. As I said, like all day, you don't see anyone.

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But for me, it's great because I'm a multidimensional tripper.

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So, for me, my consciousness is not aligned on what other people have to say.

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I'm not dependent on what other people think of me. I'm not dependent on the

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approval of others, completely self-reliant in that regard.

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And that's obviously what years and years of practice do to you.

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That's obviously the thing. If you do your practice every day,

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that means if you get up early, you want to be up before five.

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That's like really facing that discomfort of the cold morning.

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And then you're going into your breathing techniques. I mean,

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you have no choice other than to embrace that aspect of yourself that is independent

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of the influence of others. You're reaching an aspect of yourself that has nothing to do with the outer world.

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You're reaching that aspect of yourself that is free of the critique of others,

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that is free of the suggestions of how you're supposed to live.

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You know, you're discovering this point of freedom within yourself,

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within that discomfort. So you could say your true self has got this sheath

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around it, and that sheath is bloody uncomfortable.

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Well, as I was saying last episode was the discomfort and how that actually

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seems to change how we perceive time. So we did a little bit about time and multi-dimensions. But yeah,

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if you're particularly uncomfortable, you tend to create a lot of space, time for yourself.

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Yeah. If something's frustrating, especially even when you're learning something

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new or trying to finish off a project or do something and it gets...

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You feel like you're slowing down. It's actually because it's quite a lot of

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strenuous exercise or mental activity.

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And same thing with doing something physical as well, right? Suddenly you want to get it over with or, you know, move through it.

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So in and of itself, it's a way. The fact is, like, if you get up early and

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you're facing your practice, you are in that state of like, whoa,

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you don't want to look at it. You just don't want to do it. It's so much easier to stay in bed and just go

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for social media instead or have a cup of coffee and then just kind of ponder

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the day first and things like that. Journal. People say you should journal when you get up. Yeah. Yeah.

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This is, oh, yeah. That's one of those top, I see it all the time,

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especially in LinkedIn and places where they give you career advice.

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It was like, you know, get up early and the first thing you should do is journal and put your goals down.

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I probably agree with that. Journal is your cosmic cheat. Yeah,

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I don't think that's what they meant. You should put that on LinkedIn. That'll go.

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Lose your cosmic self. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you want to, like the fact is if you're

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facing your discomfort and going into the inner world, you're really becoming

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less and less dependent on others. Yes. So you're still harmonizing with other, because that's the interesting

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thing that a spiritual practice pulls the progression of the feeling.

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Like, spiritual practice goes in three stages. First of all,

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it transcends the illusion of separation. That's the first step. Then it moves to the second stage, which is nonjudgmental.

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And then it moves to the third stage, which is cosmic love or cosmic union.

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And so in a spiritual sense, that's from a three-dimensional world of the separation

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into the fourth-dimensional reality of nonjudgmental to the fifth-dimensional reality of love,

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which is what the hippies were all about way back when the awakening of the

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60s took place, the Aquarian Age. So the interesting thing is that as you're going into yourself with those practices

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that always are fully in that state of, ah, I don't want to go there,

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but then once you're breaking through that, You're becoming so independent of

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what other people are saying and other people.

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But at the same time, because you're moving towards the fifth dimensional reality,

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which is the unification with all that is.

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So in that moment, you actually become one with all that is.

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So you're actually becoming a partner with everyone, but you actually don't need anyone.

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So it's a state of liberation. Do you think if you don't do that strenuous resistance

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training, in one way to put it, on yourself, then you go looking for it in other people?

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People see conflict a lot or arguments or debates. Yes. If you don't do it on

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your own, you're like, I'm going to go out and I need to fight someone now because I have it.

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Yeah, absolutely. Totally. Because if I go within myself, I have to face my inner resistances.

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And that requires a lot of energy in order to push through that.

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So that means when I then meet someone else and a reactive pattern is triggered,

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because it's pretty likely that people say things to you that you're not in agreement with.

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That's the nature of this physical world.

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Are you saying no matter what you do, that's going to happen? Yeah I don't know if I agree with that though.

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So you always will doesn't matter what you do you always have opposition but

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on the other hand this is it's yin and yang,

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it's just the one gave rise to the two which is the yin and the yang so that's

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what this physical world is about in order to have.

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Opposition in order to create something new because if

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everyone is in agreement with you then we're

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not expanding our soul yeah our bird is

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not crying and obviously the only

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reason why we're here is to grow that soul yeah

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we watch people try and take other

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people's power or benefit from people's power or whatever

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by just agreeing with them all the time so yes men so if you you know a

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lot of people become successful probably end up with

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a lot of people around them just going and agreeing with them to try and either get

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something from them or they find somehow they're going

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to end up like them right by by being close to

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them we just watched me and my partner watch a movie called the death of stalin last night

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it's a 2017 movie it's actually a comedy

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it's really really funny about when stalin died yeah and

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the kind of and the calamity around that but you can see everyone he

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had around him were just so afraid of

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what they were saying or not saying and should they say this

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and they were kind of happy that he was dying but

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they had to pretend that they weren't they were unhappy about it but

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he could see this complete fabrication that

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they were kind of developing this fake person persona around themselves because i'm

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trying to please this other this this person who they're terrified of

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but they wanted his power his position so the glanks they went to to try and

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avoid you know being like real was quite astounding and it was a comedy so it

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was obviously heightened in terms of like you know the humor was incredible

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but i see that in also in corporations i think people who want to move up in

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a power external power not like their own internal power.

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I think about this quite a lot, actually, because we were talking about those

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dickheads we mentioned quite often, like Schwab and Bill Gates and all these

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people, and you made a really good point. Those names are illegal now? Yeah, yeah. I know. The last time I'll ever use

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them. I'll have to come up with nicknames for them or something, but like dickhead, it's simple.

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Better than narrow it down, though. Let me know what you mean. It's like the dwarves, dopey, grumpy, sleepy, you know?

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You mentioned, because it was a few months ago or last year,

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I don't know what it was, and it was the time when I was very frustrated by all of that.

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And you said that they don't have real power because all their power resides

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on people around them and the money they have, the influence.

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You pull that out and they just completely collapse. You can look at them and

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say they're very physically weak, but also mentally weak.

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They require all this infrastructure around them to be powerful, but not real power.

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So when you see people imitating, leeching, smiling, and pretending that they

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agree with that person's saying, because they think they can acquire that person's

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position. It's like the imitation of power. That's not real. Yeah. Because they can be faking something.

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There's no presence. Exactly. And you just see how common that is.

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People trying to get someone without really doing the work they're putting in

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is the work of imitation. Or pandering or nodding and smiling and saying

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yes and being agreeable whatever they think

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it's gonna and getting close to someone who's got power trying to

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by trying to take that away but not doing the all the

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work that requires to get to that it's like i don't want to learn how to draw

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i'm just going to trace other people's work you know so i'm drawing put it over

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top and then copy it versus spending decades of all the struggle that goes through

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and the doubting like still like i do drawing now i'm like i spit shit i'll

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do it again like i don't i've never achieved a goal where i'm I'm like,

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I'll never get any better. This is perfect. But I've gone through the difficult work to try and get to the point where I

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can do it on my own. I need someone else to help me do it.

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But again, I keep coming back to that because we look at people in power who

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are powerful, but it's not real power necessarily.

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It's been acquired or it's been built externally, which means it can go.

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And we've seen this again. We watched this movie last night. Yeah, it's subject to dysfunction.

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Dictators and people who suddenly are gone. That's it. They just pull the ropes,

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pull that from under them. But then that person who gets in their place, that'll happen to them.

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Yeah, in China's medicine, they're referred to that as jing.

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So if you build an external power, that's not considered jing.

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And jing is the essence of the universe in relation to force.

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So jing is given to us at birth, and jing is an experience we have when we fall in love.

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Jing is an experience we have when we get excited. Jing comes through us when

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we suddenly feel a power surge from within.

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And Jing comes to us, obviously, in state of sex, orgasm, etc.,

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which is why sexual regulation in Chinese medicine is so crucial because it can harm your Jing.

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But at the same time, if you don't have enough sex, you're not getting enough Jing.

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It's a very tricky beast to work with. Jing is something that is directly connected

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to this fort that holds everything in its plate, which the whole universe is, in fact, a powerhouse.

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So if you buy if you according to them if you develop your whole world on external

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measurements you're not building Jing as such,

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So it means if the external world crushes, you actually have nothing to left,

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to go by. It's a bit like gold. Jing is affiliated with gold.

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So there's a lot of talk about now that the, like what we call money is not coming to an end.

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And that instead we need something that is always reliable, that's fundamental.

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And that's gold. And always has been, you know. Why is gold always so fascinating?

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It's obviously speculation for other things. But interesting thing,

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in Chinese medicine, gold is affiliated with jing.

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Right. And actually, you couldn't say from a Chinese medicine perspective,

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you can build in jing if you know how to harness gold, which is what the initial idea of alchemy.

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I was going to say that. That was the whole goal, right? Yeah, yeah.

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Is it true that it was sort of misinterpreted in translation later on when the

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assumption was the alchemists were trying to take up a lump of mud and make into gold?

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But was it more of an analogy for like transmutation and knowledge and acquiring

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gold being something beyond the physical gold in terms of like they're trying

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to take one mundane and turn it into something special?

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Yeah, that makes sense. Like in Chinese medicine, that aspect of gold relates

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to the… I mean, gold is in…. Fascinating material in China's philosophy anyway, because everything revolves

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around jade and gold. Yeah. So the gold is affiliated with fertility, but gold is also affiliated with longevity.

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So they understand somehow there's a connection between gold and jing,

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which is what your aging process is.

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So when we are born, we have a lot of jing.

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And when you're 15 years of age, you've got far too much jing.

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Like that's what I was saying, young, dumb, and full of gum.

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That's basically saying young, too much Jing, and impulsive behavior. Yeah. Yeah.

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That's basically what it means because too much Jing means you're just going

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to do things quickly. Yeah. And hasty.

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And that's like a trademark for being young, you know? So then you're wasting it all.

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Yeah. You know, you get drunk and sleep maybe one hour, get back to work.

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Yeah. You can do that week after week because you got the Jing. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

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So as you get older, it's not quite the case. No. Yeah.

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So then you're realizing, you know, you get drunk and then it's going to take

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a week to get over it. So it's not like the old days anymore.

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So that's because of your Jing. Yeah. So if your Jing's strong, you basically can drink all day. Yeah. No problem. Yeah.

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So that means you don't sleep much and things like that. And you can have like

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a whole harem if you want. Yeah. You will fight. So it's also very good. That's probably the reason why the Chinese

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want Jing. Yeah, right. Yeah. But they're using that again so if we um we

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interpreted alchemy as a physical thing but it's

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it's more of an energetic longevity yeah okay it's not

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longevity fertility it's about

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power yeah and then we're looking for also for like basically the

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elixir of life right in terms of like trying to like longevity or or immortality

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is that yeah and when it comes to blood in medicine it's written uppercases

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b because it's relating to a certain energetic quality within that elixir called

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blood so it's not the liquid it's the energy in the liquid,

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So, and what, from an alchemical perspective, you can actually enhance the quality

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in the blood with that energy from, derived from, somehow affiliated with gold.

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How that exactly works, this is obviously subject to speculation.

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There's all kind of different experiments done in the past, and quite a few

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Taoist alchemists died because of that, because they worked with mercury,

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they worked with all kind of other elements in order to try to extract the energetic

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quality within the gold. I mean, how come the Incas were so keen on gold? Right. Yeah?

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Yeah. That's obviously how- I always say it's like decorative,

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but this just doesn't make any sense. You know, where did it come from?

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You know, why are we so drawn to it? Obviously, once again, a plenty of times,

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most likely, it's affiliated somehow with the gold.

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It's not a crystal. When you look at a crystal, a liquid crystal,

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any forms of crystal, obviously, the significance in that regard is memory storage.

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Yeah. Yeah. And there's quite a few speculation that the king chambers in the

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pyramids are crystalline, and it could be possible that there are like computer chips.

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Yeah, I've heard that as well. We mentioned Billy Carson last episode,

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and he's actually talked a lot about them being computers, essentially. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, basically. Yeah, computers, yeah, yeah. But also like sort

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of… So if you know how to tab into these quarters crystals, you may be able

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to read the information, the data that's stored on it.

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Yeah. and it could be whoosh suddenly come to you so it could be some kind of

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transmission of knowledge so that's obviously the crystalline arrangement the

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crystals always have been a main focus but.

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Apart from the knowledge, there's also the power. So what's the point of knowledge

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when you don't have power? And that's the jing. So in Chinese medicine,

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the fundamental search was initially for the power, because if you understand

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the power, that means you've got time to gather knowledge,

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as opposed to gather knowledge first and then realizing you're lacking power,

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and then you die, and then the knowledge is useless. So they understood right from the start. So what comes first? Power.

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Because I've got power, I'm able to have longevity. That means I've got fertility.

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That means I can work and I can actually create in accord with what I perceive

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and with my knowledge gathering. So therefore, it always has been a fundamental search, which then most likely

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kick-started that fundamental search that now is understood as alchemy.

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There's a lot of factors. us, we don't know exactly how it all happened, because.

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Chinese didn't write too much down, and a lot of that what has been written

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down has been destroyed, and most of the information that the Taoist generation

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passed on to the next has been oral transmission.

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And the Hua Hu Qing translates the instructions from Lao Tzu to his students,

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that is primarily oral transmission.

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And so because those those books have been destroyed right 2,000 years ago,

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because once again, the powers don't want it.

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So the key is to try to get tap into your power.

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And so if you're developing... If you build a life on external achievements, it not necessarily means you got

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the power. Yeah. You got the jing. So when it crashes and collapses, what happened then?

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For example, if Bill Gates, his body gathered, if that all crashes, who is he?

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Not much. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, who is he?

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Who is he? I remember that back in the day when I was working at my Osara Self-Care

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Center, I was treating this accountant who was an accountant for Kerry Packer.

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Kerry Packer was a big name in Australia in the 70s, and he started all the

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television channels, cricket channels, sports channels.

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He was one of the richest men of Australia back in the day. so there was speculated

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when he came in for treatments what would have been if you were stranded in

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the desert if you wouldn't have that imperium that he developed because he was

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dependent on so many medications so he.

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Amassed that massive wealth but he was on medical management that lasted only

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two hours of independence before he needed a medication in order to control

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so he He was actually not free. Yeah. So if he would have been stranded in the desert in his car without the

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medication, he would have been dead within a day. Yeah. So what's the point in that? Yeah.

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So that's where China's medicine is coming in. It doesn't see relevance in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So therefore, if you're developing your jing, you always have the power.

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So it means what the external world is always subject to changes.

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And we're seeing these massive transitions now that we're going through.

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The world is changing on a larger scale than it's never seen before in the whole history of humanity.

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So if you're holding on to the external and you don't have any jink,

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then you start spinning very quickly. Yeah.

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Because you don't know how to hold on to it. Yeah. It's like,

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what happens if money suddenly goes? What happens if crypto is not available anymore? What happens to this and that and that?

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Yeah. I still don't understand it, but whatever.

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But it's like it still requires an energy grid and

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technology and all sorts of things right same with the same faults right

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so all those things have their equal faults yes like

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because they're relying on a thing that you put in the bank or but

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what you just said yeah it makes me think also like steve jobs indeed obviously i've

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mixed opinions on him but you achieved all this you know greatness and all these

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things but he was completely very very sick for the last several years of his

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life and no matter yeah amount of money he had didn't make a difference the

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irony Any of that is that when Android or Google brought out the Android operating system on the phone,

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then they copied elements of Apple's iOS in terms of the interaction.

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Steve Jobs said, I'm going to go to, I'll go to my grave suing them.

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For copying that and he literally did you know this is like threat achieved

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yeah yeah i don't think that's i'm not saying he deserved to go or anything

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but it's it's no amount of. Interventions at that point helped him with his health and i

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know what i'm sure he was doing everything imaginable because he had he had

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all the money and nothing worked yeah yeah and you could see him wasting it

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could not change it with external means yes yes

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no matter what the influence was and how much control or power or you

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know all these things that you can you know you prop on and you see that too when

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you know celebrities or famous

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people sort of commit suicide for example and you think well they're kind

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of great they got so much money and this and that and then you just don't

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see understand and what possibly how possibly that

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could be so low or dark that they would do that because you assume yeah the

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the end takes on the external measurement as far as it could go yeah and then

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reach the they'll reach the the pinnacle of it but they couldn't go any further

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imagine everyone around them you know never really telling them the truth anymore

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now You know, I said when we started talking, it's like there's people,

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you end up in this position and no one's actually honest with you anymore.

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We saw like the Elvis movie a couple of weeks ago and you just had people who

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are on this, you know, end up in these parts of this somewhat destruction,

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being manipulated by people and everyone around them doesn't want to intervene

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or mess it up because their livelihood is around this person.

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So they don't want to step in and say, oh, you need to get clean or,

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you know, stop and take a break, you know, or whatever, because their livelihood is linked to that.

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But they know they're watching this person burn out so you can see those parts

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where you're around that and you're benefiting from it but you can't interact

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with it either it's very interesting it comes with a lot of what we call power or fame.

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And all these things that everyone seems to want to get to this level. Like everyone's so desperate for fame and fortune.

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And I've never really understood that. Because it seems like something that's

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just completely fickle. Like you could do all these terrible things to become famous or rich.

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And then you get to that point. And then what do you do?

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Yeah. What do you do? I don't understand. I just think it's...

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And again, it could be taken away instantly. Someone's taking advantage of you.

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You could have an accident. It could be all these... That's a lot of work. It's like you're building a mountain and all its work

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is going into it, and it's just going to collapse with any push versus you build

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an internal mountain or structure, and you're working on that so much that it

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can't be destroyed by anything externally, essentially.

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So it's two different ways of what do you want to stand on? It's like sand or granite.

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Now, this is why in the Chinese medicine, it's all about the jing.

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Yeah. And if there is a foundation to build yourself on, it's Jing.

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Because if your Jing is strong, it doesn't matter where you go,

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you always will create. Because your Jing is your presence.

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You know, that's the power that comes with it. Because if there's power, you generate.

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If you develop power, you generate. So it's a fact that you have the power. You always will see a solution.

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You always see an option. You always know what to do. and this is obviously

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so crucial now in this time which is what I when I started today speaking it's

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like because in the meetings I have now.

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The changes that the world is going through a

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lot of people have problems with dealing with those changes and you

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can't see the future anymore in

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many situations you can't like most people's world has come to stand still in

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terms of what they thought is possible and for example like my wife and me we

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invested into a world that no longer exists you know because we obviously had

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it all invested heavily into, intellectual property and having all those books I saw myself I had a totally

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different picture of the world 10 years ago 15 years ago,

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20 years ago so when I did my gold setting way back when gold setting was standard,

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for success Yeah, whiteboard, you know. Yeah, and you write down your goals every day.

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I mean, I was influenced by that movement in the 90s.

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You know, Brian Tracy, et cetera. So you write your goals down every day. So I did all that.

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And obviously, I focused on a development that is in the intellectual property

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so that I have all those books out there, which is intellectual property.

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And then we're doing tours to all the festivals and speak in all the different festivals. of my,

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Ideal was Alexander Shulgin, the father of MDMA, who wrote that famous book, Fecal.

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And he, at his age of 90, was speaking at a festival, MDMA, and ecstasy.

26:15

He's a father of ecstasy. Okay. So just having his book is illegal.

26:20

So if you've got a drug raid and you've got this book, you can get sued.

26:25

Really? Yeah. Yeah, because India is a direct, precise description of how to

26:29

make MDMA and all different forms of altering drugs.

26:33

Because he was licensed to carry all kinds of substances with him, yeah.

26:38

And he was actually a chemist for the government at some stage and for the army

26:43

and things like that to develop all psychoactive substances made back in the 50s.

26:47

So he had heavy influences when the LSD experimentations were taking place within

26:52

the CIA. and obviously lots of books have been written about that and Joe Rogan

26:57

talks about it quite frequently. Yeah, it's very interesting.

27:00

The CIA have used LSD on a large scale in order to… Program people basically.

27:07

Yeah, and also to explore the psyche. Yeah. And in the 60s, the psychiatrist

27:12

used it and Alexander Shulgin was part of that movement where they developed the substances.

27:17

So he was licensed to carry everything with him basically. And so...

27:25

Yeah, he was a little bit my idol in that regard because he was traveling to

27:30

all those festivals at the age of 90 with his wife, speaking all to those young trippers.

27:37

And he was on stage and he was in that booth movement and he was in the psychedelic trance music scene.

27:47

But providing really good insights into psychedelic state, what it's about.

27:52

So, of course, the young generation, the people who went to those festivals,

27:57

were only interested in the altered state.

28:00

But he provided insights into what the nature of those states are,

28:04

other than derived from the drugs. He understood, like his famous statement, hang up the phone once you get the message.

28:12

So once you get the message, hang up the phone. That means you take the substance.

28:17

Until you get the understanding of what it's about, then you stop it.

28:20

But yeah, okay, don't keep doing it.

28:23

So he was in that scene.

28:27

And so in many ways was exactly what we strive toward.

28:32

So I saw myself like 20 years ago when I did my goal setting and I saw myself

28:36

in my 60s and 70s being on those festivals, being surrounded by the trans music, psychedelic people,

28:44

hippies, strippers, because I love that element.

28:47

I love those. I love the psychedelics. I love festivals. I saw myself at Ibiza

28:51

speaking because I started already that.

28:53

I was speaking in the early 2000s at the Rainbow Serpent Festivals and all those trance festivals.

29:00

And obviously we moved towards it, but then COVID hit. Yeah.

29:06

And then the world that we were projecting and moving towards obviously completely was taken away.

29:12

And you can't imagine it anymore now.

29:15

No. So instead, now we're in the woods. Yeah, literally. Yeah.

29:19

Yeah it's interesting i don't yeah that sense of um

29:22

i think you've actually written about this recently too this sense of mourning or loss

29:25

which is important to acknowledge that

29:28

but not stay in it which is what you just said a second ago about once you

29:31

get the message hang up yes right so i've found i've gone

29:34

through this personally too like i never had the goal setting i

29:37

knew what i didn't want to do i knew the people i didn't want to be around i knew

29:40

that work i didn't you know i didn't want and i didn't want

29:43

to achieve things that were empty so i had no fame

29:47

and money and all all these things i just haven't i just have never had any interest

29:49

in it it's great because it enables me to get further

29:52

so it's great to get paid like i've realized especially

29:55

lately that's good to know to like

29:58

make sure you you're able to do the next

30:01

step keep going yeah to me it's never a goal it's always

30:03

a lubricant or an enabler to get to the next thing

30:06

through i don't know what that is i've never known what it is i still don't

30:08

know what it is if i had ideas of what it might be in terms of the industries

30:12

that it might be what the effect i want to have in the world the kind kind of

30:15

people i wanted i was going to be around i work with political views those things

30:19

those are the things that got shattered or i shattered i broke um you know both

30:22

during the covet you know. Sort of types of people want to be around type of businesses i want to do stuff with,

30:29

i had an idea of what they were and weren't and that was that's the

30:31

thing that kind of went like kind of pulled out from under me but

30:34

there was never a sense of like you know i never

30:37

felt like i was going towards a certain thing anyway but there was a sense of where

30:40

i didn't want to end up there was always this like okay i can't

30:43

be there i can't do that so that sort of reset thing

30:46

i found myself very angry also like you mentioned too again with

30:49

that post it was a few weeks ago was that acknowledged that you

30:52

know that happened but you can't stay in that and this is

30:55

what i noticed with the grief process is crucial yeah you better you can't do

30:59

that forever yeah yeah the grief process takes you to a starting point because

31:03

the tear the grief is essential in order to actually for everything to crash

31:08

yeah and then it takes you from a five element perspective.

31:13

Because the five element is is this is the five phases

31:16

of of transitions and transformation so the

31:19

five phases or the five transformations are always starting with metal first

31:23

and which is once again alchemy yeah i was going to say that it's like mutation

31:26

turning into another thing yeah you always go into alchemy first you always

31:30

just work with we we with the metals because that's where gold is. That's where Jing is.

31:37

Jing is in fact affiliated with the metal, which then nourishes the water,

31:43

which is the actual formation of Jing, which is the kidney.

31:46

But a mental process is first required.

31:50

So in order for you to get into the Jing, in order to produce this substance

31:56

that is affiliated with gold, it requires the process of getting into the metal element first.

32:04

So that means it's actually a practice required first that actually captures

32:10

your intent, but also captures universal force.

32:16

It's almost like this is why in Chinese medicine, you would say that the pyramids

32:20

resemble exactly that what Chinese medicine is about.

32:24

Because you've got actually a lot of power points in the pyramids that resemble

32:29

the meridians and the merging of the meridians and all that understanding that

32:34

each of those chambers are affiliated with each of the chakra points.

32:38

That means it's in fact a meridian system. So it doesn't take long.

32:43

I mean, they already overlapped the drawings of the Da Vinci man and the pyramids.

32:48

There's so many correlations. It's fascinating. and so but da

32:53

vinci obviously once again he was stepping into into

32:57

descriptions how the forces work and that's the meridians

33:00

yeah yeah but he's also one of those people who's clearly getting stuff

33:03

from stuff like you can see the originality and the proliferation that like

33:08

he was the way his mind went in terms of like art and also engineering and science

33:13

and design it's one of us just kind of yeah you can see he was receiving he

33:18

was challenging something yeah he was receiving something that wasn't there.

33:21

No one was even close to that at that point, right? So when I look at the Da Vinci man, like from a China's medicine perspective, my God, he kept judging.

33:31

Like the way how the forces come together, the focal points.

33:35

And I look at it so many times, this is exactly what the practice is about.

33:40

This is what the meditation takes you to. And those force lines are in fact,

33:45

the meridians that take it to each other's point. And in China's medicine,

33:49

that's the starting point of the five transitions, which is the metal element.

33:53

So you could say Da Vinci's man is the first metalist. You could actually superimpose

33:58

the five elements on the Da Vinci man, and you would actually have a beautiful

34:02

progression of these five transitions.

34:05

It works really well. Yeah, right. Yeah. And back in the day when I started

34:10

the Osiris Center, I actually did that. I played with that.

34:13

Because I was fascinated by that drawing. And so obviously that's the first

34:18

thing we need to understand first, that being here means everything that exists

34:25

physically is destined to die.

34:28

It's a physical fact.

34:32

So we know exactly we coming here means we also will die.

34:36

That means everything that's physical will die. yeah so

34:39

every time i buy a new car i know exactly it

34:42

won't be for long yeah it might feel like that too you're still

34:45

going but yeah every day i feel like this is

34:48

getting a little closer to the end but it's okay i want to keep it going yeah it's

34:51

just everything is just like so it's not much point holding on to it

34:54

was what's always bothered me or has been a challenge

34:57

in my industry because it's about designing and making mass producing things

35:00

yeah and i always would get to the process i'd get really excited in the

35:02

beginning because i had the big blank sheet of paper and i

35:05

could put put all these ideas down and then you have to sort of narrow them down like

35:08

okay well i'll narrow it down and you end up with one night you know thing

35:11

and that gets this is a very simple version that gets put into produced

35:14

and then if you're in industrial it's could be

35:17

hundreds of thousands or millions of these things can go out to the world and

35:20

that point always really bothered me like that's supposedly the point of that

35:24

industry that that job which it is yeah but i never liked that idea that there's

35:27

this thing that's going to go out there and then sit around for a thousand years

35:31

or end up somewhere it shouldn't be and again it's going to be not good enough

35:34

and it It can never be returned back to where it started.

35:37

It couldn't be, you know, we use the term recycling, but that's such a basic

35:39

way to look at it. It's like it can never be better than it is now.

35:42

It's always going to be, it's going to be worse afterwards. It's going to be downgraded.

35:45

And that was always a real problem that I could never put my finger on and never

35:49

solve quite, you know, the way I wanted it to. I always see this as this possibility that's always not quite achievable,

35:56

that it's not good, it's not quite good enough. And it's sort of a frozen thing. Again, cars, computers, laptops,

36:01

they're great. And then I always go, this is going to be in a pile of dirt at

36:05

some point, or it's going to break. It will, yeah. But then I'm like, I really wish we could understand how to do

36:10

better when it comes to those things. Yeah, I always look at, when I look at physical objects, I actually flash forward

36:16

to them being, you know, at the end of their life cycle.

36:18

Maybe just we've reached the stage where we will be eventually able to create

36:23

it with a field rather than with matter.

36:28

Yeah. So that means as long as we enjoy what we have, we can dispose of it just

36:36

by the thought of it. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

36:39

And I mean, spiritual psychics, et cetera, say that's how the astral world functions.

36:45

That we manifest it with our thoughts, and then we just also dismantle it with our thoughts.

36:51

But when we're coming into the physical, where there's a process of gestation

36:55

taking place, So it's not possible to, according to them, it's not possible to enter without.

37:01

Going into this birth and death process. So this dimension is dependent of us via birth and dying.

37:09

So that means the physical in itself.

37:13

There's one interesting, I found a very interesting podcast the other day, and it's Darius Wright.

37:19

He's one of those out-of-body experts. And he came back from one of his excursions to the other side,

37:29

And he postulated the idea that he was instructed to say that this is probably

37:33

the final manifestation of the physical reality, that actually that project

37:38

will come to an end soon. That project. Yeah. Yeah. So that heaven considers the physical as a project.

37:46

Yeah. And that it's now actually, it's in its final making of the model.

37:51

It's a model in its final years. Right. Yeah.

37:55

I mean, it's continued? Yeah. It will be. It's according to him,

37:58

he brought it back that it will actually, the physical will discontinue soon.

38:03

Right. And probably because they're realizing it's a little bit too much bullshit.

38:08

In the experiment, there was quite a, well, the prototype.

38:14

Yeah, that's what they were in the product lines. Like, yeah, what can I give you? What can I support that one anymore?

38:18

Yeah, maybe the spiritual hierarchy. You have to design this on the other side.

38:22

Have you had a meeting, a board meeting? And all right, I don't think it's going

38:26

to work. It's not working. There's too many people trying to corrupt it. Yeah. We think it's, they're absolute.

38:33

Yeah. I mean, we do this. We do this like, you know, consumer testing.

38:36

You come up with these ideas and you make models of them and you put them in

38:39

a room and with a glass mirror and you observe people using them to see if they

38:44

know how to use it or not. Yeah. That's all you do. It's a focus group.

38:46

Yeah, focus group. And then people go, oh, what did you think about that mug?

38:49

And they go, oh, I like it. And then someone's like, I love it.

38:51

And then you're supposed to use that to input back into the design.

38:55

Yes. And it can go really horribly wrong.

38:57

If you don't have the foundations going in to know what's the right thing to

39:01

do, then you're completely manipulated by what people say.

39:04

Maybe if you give an instruction to heaven and say, hang on,

39:07

I've got some ideas. It's a designer. Change the focus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on the outside. I'm on the wrong side of the window.

39:14

I'm in the freaking room. I want to be outside the room looking in going, I don't know.

39:17

Yeah, maybe go outside and say, oh, look, take people like Bill Gates and Klaus

39:21

Schmupp out there. They just don't work in the focus group.

39:23

They're messing up the output. Yeah, and he just likes not hurting everybody.

39:26

Yeah, they're in the wrong room. Yeah. Get him in another room.

39:31

Yeah, please. That's what happens if you don't go in, if you're not confident in your design. Yeah.

39:36

And someone's like, I like it. Then everyone, the marketing people freak out.

39:39

And they go, we need to redesign it. No one's going to buy it. Like some idiot in a room said they don't like it. And you're going to use that one data point.

39:47

And this happens all the time. I've had people who are car designers.

39:50

And they're showing people constant renderings of a car it's not even now yet,

39:55

and like I like the bumper, right and if more than one person says that there's designers

40:00

on the other side of the window and they're in there sketching on the

40:03

same day oh do you like this one better and i'm like i

40:06

said i'm like how do you even keep track of the changes like you can't it's

40:09

impossible so at some point we've the power has been taken by people who marketing

40:14

what do you want to call it the corporate people who aren't the creative people

40:17

and they're so afraid that someone won't like it or won't buy it that they're

40:21

like no you tell us what it's i'm like that's not that's not their job,

40:25

That's probably the reason why they're now starting to have a board meeting

40:28

on the other side and realizing it's not working because of the marketing teams here.

40:35

It's always marketing's fault. They're marketing to get the wrong way.

40:40

They have this great idea. Okay, we can only create this model called three-dimensional reality.

40:46

We're putting a four-dimensional aspect into it, which is called time.

40:51

And the only way to enter is by birth. and the only way to exit is by death.

40:56

And then we give them an idea which is stored in their DNA, which is,

41:01

for some reason, the scientists call junk DNA.

41:04

Because 90% of junk DNA is one of the biggest. That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

41:09

Yeah. Oh, it's just, it doesn't matter. It's just, it doesn't do anything.

41:13

It's like, I'm sorry, what? Everything is so precise in nature and 95% is like,

41:19

oh, it doesn't matter. It's like dark irrelevant. It's irrelevant.

41:22

You can't see it. What does it do? I'm like, it probably does everything.

41:25

Yeah. Because there's no measurements for it. It doesn't make... Yeah, that's classic.

41:29

That is amazing. That's classic why we got that sharp problem now that is obviously that...

41:36

The powers that control everything have locked themselves down into three-dimensional

41:42

measurements and making that as an absolute.

41:45

And obviously, what happens in this

41:47

95% of DNA, the measurements of the three-dimensional world won't apply.

41:51

Yeah. It's in Chinese medicine. This is a theory. It's multidimensional.

41:57

Yeah. And so it's like in the ancient Taoist texts, they talk about the strength

42:06

of the jing moving through your body. It's why the 12 meridians.

42:10

And that's why the yin and the yang, and that's the serpent spine.

42:14

And that, in many ways, they're describing DNA. Yeah.

42:17

And obviously, as you know, the latest finding in the pyramids is all about DNA.

42:23

Yeah. But they're talking about aspects of the DNA we have no idea about yet.

42:27

And because the measurements are within the 5%. And then, obviously,

42:32

Watson-Crick's were discovered DNA.

42:35

You know, obviously, this is only a while ago, and those guys only had a glimpse

42:40

of it because they took LSD. If they wouldn't have taken LSD, they wouldn't have known about DNA in the first

42:45

place. So our situation is derived from a multidimensional reality by using

42:52

psychedelic substances. And now it's hijacked by the limiting measurements and views of a three-dimensional world.

43:00

And then saying, okay, the 95% that we can't see is junk.

43:06

Well, the answer is, okay, maybe you should drop LSD.

43:09

Or go look at the fucking pyramids. Go over there.

43:12

You see the focus group thing, right? Everyone else like you've got no got there.

43:17

Yeah, they're ready five thousand ten thousand years ago. What do you fucking problem? Yeah, it does.

43:20

Yeah, so you've got to be almost bring it back and.

43:24

Watson and Quicksilver wouldn't have dropped LSD, we wouldn't know about DNA.

43:27

So now you can't hijack that with a limited understanding. And that's what they do.

43:32

But this is obviously, I think this is why this brutal hierarchy may be considering

43:37

of discontinuing this model.

43:40

Cool. It actually sounds like the plot to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is

43:44

what Douglas Adams wrote. That the Earth was a big computer and a big environment.

43:47

And there was this whole thing where he said, well, you know, a billion, three billion years ago, they created Earth. And this was seen as

43:52

a really bad, bad move. Yeah. It's a bad idea. I shouldn't have done it. But at some point,

43:57

they reset it. Like, ah, it's not working. Let's reset the computer,

43:59

basically. Because we're done with that prototype. Yeah.

44:02

We've learned a lot. In many ways, yeah. We've got some good notes.

44:05

Yeah. We've learned a lot. We've learned a lot. And everyone here learned a lot. This is what you designed.

44:09

Except Klaus Wolp. Yeah. Well, maybe in the- Wasted his time here. Maybe at the end, he'll realize.

44:16

Maybe by the time he turns into some sort of cricket or something.

44:19

I took him by the nickname for him, so I don't have to say his name. And then he gets crushed into protein powder.

44:22

Yeah yeah he's the bug he's the bug yeah you eat yourself yeah he's a reincarnated bug,

44:30

now it's being too nice in the broad and part of the future that's right

44:33

the one that he's about that escapes yeah yeah

44:37

but yeah yeah we in design you have to like you mentioned this last episode

44:43

too that pushing the boundaries of technology in the planes and jets and all

44:46

sorts of stuff and you have to like prototype stuff otherwise you have no idea

44:51

if it's going to work or not you're like okay well i got some ideas but we got to like start to,

44:55

stick stuff together and shoot some rockets up and blow stuff up and all sorts

44:59

of things you know like not great with nuclear energy because it's probably

45:03

one of the most profound discoveries you know in the past hundred years and

45:05

instead of using it for power it's been let's blow stuff up with it right it's

45:10

fascinating and yeah the application of technology is fascinating.

45:14

But you have to start somewhere you have to like put stuff together you have

45:17

to give it a shot It's a prototype, and then you go to the prototype.

45:20

So many people are awakening now. I really believe maybe, let's say that this

45:25

prototype model has now come to the end of the assembling line,

45:30

and after that it's going to be most likely discontinued.

45:34

However, it's also many, many, many souls who have been through this process

45:40

of birth and death have also learned a lot.

45:45

And I really see now in this final, I really see in this last few months,

45:52

like how so much awakening, like I don't want this shit anymore.

45:57

Like where they suddenly realized they were fooled.

46:01

And there is like this realization that they were taken completely on the wrong path. Yeah.

46:10

This, and the anger that came with it, you know, and as a result of that is

46:16

the ability to, all right, I need to start new and I can't rely on the government anymore.

46:22

I can't rely on these American interests anymore.

46:27

I'm not interested in global dominance by some American country.

46:31

So I'm just, it's about me now.

46:34

It's about going within myself. And this is where jinn is coming to the equation.

46:38

And this is where the five elements. And this is obviously where the grief process is coming into because the grief

46:43

process is first to acknowledge, okay, what I've been introduced to, it's not real anymore.

46:51

It's come to an end. It's dead. It's dying. That's it. So, starting with the

46:56

death process of understanding, okay, it will not continue the way it is,

46:59

is actually a liberation.

47:02

And the tears that come with of grieving the old is actually essential in order

47:09

to initiate that process for metal, because grief is metal element.

47:14

And then it initiates the five transition from grief and metal to now manifest

47:22

and nourish the jing development, your power.

47:26

So you actually, as a result of that, is you're actually discovering your power

47:29

and you're becoming a lot real.

47:31

And I've seen this now the last few months that people started to realize I

47:36

have that power within me. You know, there's like, I don't need this. I don't need to rely on others anymore.

47:43

Or I got the power within me. And obviously that then leads to this discovery of something new because once

47:52

you're getting into this Jing development,

47:55

you're also then seeing options that you didn't see before.

47:59

You know, this is the fact that Jing gives you energy again because once energy

48:05

comes in, you start seeing. When you are in despair and you can't see the way forward, your energy is also low.

48:14

Yeah. Yeah. It's not like that you got lots of energy and can't see the way

48:17

forward. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. It's like what I said in the beginning, you know, when you're young,

48:22

full of Jing, that means, you know, you're going to see everything.

48:25

Yeah. I'm going to do this I'm better than this I can do the parents old crap,

48:29

and things like that yeah it's like if you've got a full tank of petrol yeah

48:32

and you're like got a big road ahead of you you know you're like great if your

48:34

car's broken down or empty you're not going to like you're not thinking about

48:37

you know the road the road the possibilities down the road you're stuck here

48:41

you're not going anywhere yeah so it's like you don't see the road you don't see the,

48:45

mountains in the distance or the gold yeah I mean that's the opposite to genius depression,

48:50

that's it everything's yeah you're not going anywhere so really Clearly,

48:54

when I'm doing my Zoom consultations here in the woods, because people obviously

49:00

can't see me personally anymore because it's just difficult to get here.

49:04

When I had directions, I had so much trouble getting here.

49:07

Yeah, even if you're a third-world driver, you won't find your way around.

49:12

And so in Zoom meetings, obviously, that comes across a lot.

49:17

So it's just, okay, what do I actually do? And this is obviously where it all comes down to the one thing.

49:23

You can't see the future. As I said to you, that's why I shared my story so often, is the future that

49:31

I was proposing, that I was moving towards, no longer exists.

49:36

And so many people I see in my work, in my consultations, say exactly the same

49:42

thing. The future that I was working towards no longer exists. So, yeah.

49:48

That's where jing's coming into. And the development of the jing then allows

49:52

you to see something new, and it automatically will actually move you to a totally

49:57

different way. Yeah, it's a fact.

49:59

Because the universe understands that this here is a transition,

50:05

and that means we're only getting a glimpse of what the bigger picture is,

50:11

but we can't hold on to that, what we see in that moment.

50:14

We need to understand that this is only timely. and and because everything's

50:18

accelerating so fast so that means if we're holding on to an idea,

50:23

and after two years it crumples that's like

50:26

the same as like maybe 50 years ago it would have been a lifetime yeah yeah

50:30

so so we're doing now like like basically yeah yeah what we've seen in the last

50:36

three four years since covid it's probably five lifetimes yeah just you're right

50:40

yeah it's hard to even like you said before in the beginning it's just it's

50:43

maybe sort of like hindsight. You know, the 2020, you start to reflect on what happened and it makes more,

50:50

you know, not makes more sense. I still think it makes no fucking sense, but it's easier to see as its own little ball or sphere.

50:57

If you kind of look at it, you move it away from yourself, you can see the whole

51:00

thing inside this like snow globe. You shake it up and you look at all the crazy stuff that happened.

51:05

It's easier to put together when you've moved past it a bit.

51:08

When you're amongst it, it's just like this weird rollercoaster ride

51:12

of like who knows so and i think that's what you said i

51:15

think you said like you're going to see people comedies or

51:18

movies or documentaries or reflections on what happened

51:21

probably more as we get a bit further from it and then

51:24

reflect back on it it's a bit easier to make sense

51:26

of it if that's possible then yeah when you're in the middle of it you know

51:30

just sauron kirkengaard i think is a philosopher said that you

51:33

you live life your life can only be understood backwards

51:36

but you have to live forwards so you can only understand things that

51:39

you can reflect on them back there there but you can't that's like

51:41

hang up the phone you're gonna go forwards so maybe our

51:45

jobs on time to stand things as they're happening is to keep moving towards where

51:48

you think needs to go then you maybe understand it and reflect i don't know

51:51

if that makes sense or not but because there was no understanding what was happening

51:54

in the past few years well what was going on it was just it was bizarre every

51:59

day was more and more bizarre more weird more confusing and there's no ability

52:03

to make sense of it it was just a lot of reaction a lot of anger and a lot of this and disruption and,

52:07

And so maybe the job is not to dwell on that, just to keep them. Oh, very important.

52:14

Stopping by the side of the road. Not to get entangled. Okay.

52:18

Like, I have so many reasons to be angry.

52:23

Like, for me, like, 2020, like, that was like, I'll never forget that day when

52:29

I got the letter that I wasn't allowed to work. Yeah.

52:32

And so I spent 30 years working, training, going to university,

52:39

got the science degree, got everything sorted, 30 years experience.

52:43

And then I got a letter, no, you're not allowed to work because of restrictions

52:48

because you may spread virus. And from my understanding, it was so easy to deal with the situation because

52:56

you just need this and this and that. So they closed down all the clinics.

53:00

Oh, they closed how many people down? How many people's businesses were closed

53:04

down and shut down? So I couldn't continue working.

53:09

And I was running a business and the same. They had overheads.

53:13

As you know, in business, you've got easily 60, yeah, overhead is normal.

53:17

That's why it's called the business. Yeah. So you've got easily like $5,000 a week in overhead. Yes, in a hobby, yeah.

53:24

And then, they tell you you can't work, but you get COVID allowance and they

53:30

send you like $500 a week. Yeah, for doing that shit. Encouraging you to do your thing.

53:35

Yeah. So you've got the business overheads and then they give you the COVID

53:39

payment and then obviously it

53:42

doesn't take long before you're going to negatives. It doesn't take long.

53:46

And then finally you're allowed to work again and then the business is done. Yeah. I wonder why.

53:53

You can't just pause on it for two years and start up again.

53:56

So then what's happening now? Do you start again?

53:58

What do you do? Then you start new and then suddenly some new regulations come and you can't do that.

54:04

So of course, everyone can be very angry now and I've met a lot of angry people

54:09

probably in the last few years. But he's not doing anything.

54:14

The fact it's not doing anything. And I learned very quickly,

54:17

okay, there's not much point accusing this.

54:19

Because I remember that we sent emails to the premier in the beginning of it.

54:24

I said, we've got solutions here.

54:26

We take this Chinese herb and COVID is, I've seen it, we treat COVID within three, four days.

54:34

You've got to make those herbs and those supplements available to the mass.

54:40

And instead, we were told, no, you're not allowed to work. but you need to get

54:43

a vaccine in order to go to a restaurant.

54:46

But working in a field that actually could have had a positive impact,

54:50

would have had a positive impact on it. We had access to solutions that would have resolved the situation almost within a few months.

54:58

It might have been, you know, if they'd been allowed to pool and share resources

55:02

better and not them had them, you know, like people at McCullough and all these people had contributions to

55:07

make that were made openly and not cancelled and censored

55:10

and de-platformed how quickly would it have been within months it was the same

55:15

thing but we said there was the other we had another part that we had to we

55:18

went down right i had a conversation with a friend of mine about when it started

55:22

and why i wasn't i'm just choosing not to pursue the the vaccine trial and i

55:26

said and the person i was talking to had been doing design for,

55:30

10 20 years and i said imagine if you'd spent all this time doing what you do

55:34

accumulated all the tools and techniques to be really good at what you do because

55:38

it's very good what he does, well above everybody else you got a much lower level of just

55:42

design engineering other other firms for example and all of a sudden they came

55:46

to you and said no you have to go down to their level now what you've done is

55:50

of no value now you have to go back to them and i said imagine how you would

55:54

feel if that happened to you that's how people i know feel who are in the in

55:58

the field that could actually be contributing right now and helping by choosing

56:01

not to go down this road and. That's not he actually understood when i explained like that and like someone's

56:06

come to me and said that all the martial arts you've been doing, all the herbs and supplements you've been taking, all this practice you've been doing?

56:12

No, you have to behave like someone who is unhealthy. I'm going to treat you

56:16

as an unhealthy person and you need to take this one thing.

56:20

And so that's actually unacceptable. Yes, and that's exactly why I see now,

56:27

because that's the means and the method of that power of the old to make people

56:34

as dumb, as stupid, it, and it's unhealthy as possible. And it's not hanging

56:38

through, though, for some people. It's pretty easy. And they're trying to, they really work hard on it, to do it,

56:44

but now, the awakening's happening, people are realizing what's going on.

56:49

And this is big awakening now, and saying, that's it. I had enough.

56:55

I had enough. And I hear this all the time now. I have people who just like,

56:59

who just contacting me, who really oppose my view on.

57:05

Supplements were up instead of vaccines, we said, no, you're going to destroy.

57:09

We need to, we've got to get that curve down. You need to also get back to that. Yeah, they're afraid.

57:14

All that shit. And we're now turning around and said, my God,

57:18

I can't believe you, all right. People told you that? Yeah.

57:20

Actually, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's impressive.

57:23

Yeah, so I can see this now. I can see this now. Yeah, people are obviously

57:27

getting sicker and sicker. Yeah.

57:29

And realizing, okay, I'm getting healthy, I'm stronger.

57:33

Yeah. And they're getting sicker. and they're already on five,

57:36

but it's just getting sicker. I'm in zero. I'm getting stronger.

57:40

So they obviously haven't... You don't have to say anything.

57:43

You just go and just look at the... The presence. Yeah. Yeah.

57:49

Eugene takes the idea. And obviously people are starting to realize.

57:54

But the beauty of it is even if you have been taken on the wrong path by these

58:00

powers of the old, you can take your power in your own hands by getting into gene development.

58:07

That's the beauty of it. Every one of us has got the ability to take charge

58:13

of themselves. That's the beauty. Everyone is born.

58:16

That's the beauty of being like, whatever the spiritual hierarchy has done with

58:21

this prototype of the three-dimensional world with its four-dimensional spin on it,

58:27

by making it delayed, late and slow. Yeah.

58:33

And so that all doesn't happen at once.

58:37

They have given all of us who enters here via birth and exits via death.

58:42

Everyone who goes in here has got the ability to take power in their own hands.

58:48

That's the beauty. Everybody has got that. Yeah. And of course,

58:51

the evil pharmacy is trying to destroy that because those vaccines target the kidney and the gene.

58:59

You know, that's why people are getting sicker. In China's medicine,

59:02

it's very clear that the vaccines target your gene, which is why people accelerate the aging.

59:07

But at the same time, I've worked with people who have taken four vaccines and

59:12

really have seen an acceleration of their age and will realize what's going on.

59:16

And I put them on high-level supplements and herbs, and within a few months,

59:22

they feel so much different. You know, that's the beauty.

59:25

It doesn't matter what age you're on. It doesn't matter what level you're in.

59:28

You can always get a grip of your jing and always can take charge of your power.

59:34

And I think this awakening is now getting, it's spreading. Yeah.

59:37

It's getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And that's why those powers, like those big pharma powers, and as I said in

59:45

the beginning, this podcast sponsored by FIDAN, you know, those people are freaking out now.

59:52

Yeah. It's very obvious now. Yeah. They're spinning and because they're exposed. Yeah.

59:57

It's like you have turned over a rock in the garden and all those spiders are

1:00:00

running for it. They have to keep doubling down. They can't admit to that.

1:00:05

They just go further and further. They'll realize it. It's getting more and more ridiculous.

1:00:09

The shit that comes out of Biden gets more and more ridiculous.

1:00:13

The shit that comes out of Albanese becomes more and more ridiculous.

1:00:16

Every politician who has been on the side of the pharmaceutical says more and

1:00:21

more ridiculous things. It's just absolutely crazy. It's turning so stupid now that it's just hilarious.

1:00:28

I mean, I'm on that position now because I went through the whole process of

1:00:31

the grief and then rebuilding my jing, and I'm full back on track again.

1:00:36

I know exactly where my life is. I can see my whole trajectory till the next transition.

1:00:45

And it's totally amusing. I just piss myself laughing all the time now.

1:00:50

But at the same time, I'm spreading and sharing the idea. Yeah,

1:00:53

how to get charge of yourself. Yeah, that's important. Yeah.

1:00:56

So that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all have the power within ourselves.

1:01:00

Real power. Yeah. Till next time. Yeah, be the power.

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