Co-host Sean Illing talks to Peniel Joseph, a University of Texas at Austin historian of Black Power movementsRelevant resources: The Sword and the Shield: The Revolutionary Lives of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. by Peniel JosephFeaturing:Peniel Joseph, a history professor at the University of Texas at AustinHost:Sean Illing (@seanilling), interviews writer, VoxMore to explore:Subscribe to Vox’s Future Perfect newsletter, which breaks down the big, complicated problems the world faces and the most efficient ways to solve them.Credits:Producer/Editor: Jackson BierfeldtEditor: Elbert VenturaExecutive Producer: Liz NelsonAbout Vox:Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines.Please consider making a contribution to Vox to support this show: bit.ly/givepodcasts. Your support will help us keep having ambitious conversations about big ideas.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices