Ali was 19 years old when he found himself in a bus on the way to the notorious Young Offender Institution at Feltham, in west London. 

In this episode of Future Prison, he talks to Helga Swindenbank, who is Executive Director for Youth Custody Services at the Ministry of Justice, about what sort of institutions are suitable for young adults who have committed crimes. Also in the studio, Dr Giles McCathie, who is Lead Psychologist for Youth Custody Services.

Future Prison was produced with support from the Barrow Cadbury Trust and the Saint Sarkis Charity Trust.

Presenter: Hilary Ineomo-Marcus

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