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Kingdom Come is back and Donkey Kong isn't going
1:56
to get off his lazy ass until later this
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year. First, please join
2:01
me in welcoming today's co-host of gay
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mess mornings. It's Jason Finelli everybody Jason.
2:05
How are you doing? I
2:07
am fantastic. There are a lot of questions in chat and
2:10
I will answer them Mario from
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any open golf. I Am
2:15
this is so my see it like my
2:17
local community theater group our show opens tonight
2:20
This is my costume for the barbershop quartet.
2:22
I figured we're here you invited me I
2:25
have to make sure it fit feels well
2:27
anyway So that's why I'm dressed like NES
2:29
open tournament edition. Oh Gosh,
2:32
I know it's a dry stay told you I was
2:34
gonna break your upper day. I'm gonna do it with
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red white and blue Lexi says
2:38
that there's no questions. Just confusion. I don't
2:41
get that. This is simply how Americans dress
2:43
This is what we this is how we
2:45
go out. This is our go out attire.
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Hey speaking Lexi. Congratulations on finishing college.
2:50
Well done Go
2:54
back it's all Save
2:57
yourself Absolutely
2:59
now congratulations But yeah, okay. So we this is
3:01
the costume Are you like you're gonna wear it
3:03
all day or is it just for us and
3:05
you're gonna take it off again and then get
3:07
Back in it that one because
3:09
I actually so we're doing the music man. Not
3:12
sure if you're familiar with that particular musical If
3:15
you remember the family guy episode where you joined the
3:17
Patriots and he did that whole celebration the song shapoopie
3:19
That's from the music man. It's probably okay. Really think
3:21
it's not a lot So in
3:23
the first I'm part of like the school board
3:25
these four guys who hate each other and through
3:27
the power of music We learn to love each
3:29
other and sing barbershop at the same time. So
3:31
this is actually the act to set The
3:36
vest is right there if you could see it so it might be
3:38
off-camera so I just wear like
3:40
a normal black suit with a different vest and we Slowly
3:43
evolve into a barbershop quartet. That's
3:45
fantastic. That's something a good time. Um,
3:47
oh fun Yeah, good
3:50
luck. I'm sorry break a leg. Absolutely Do
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you know why that saying exists? I
3:54
my understand something to do with Mcbeth Well,
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no, Mcbeth is cursed. It's if you do This
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curse, okay. There's no Brain
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they say break a leg at auditions because if it goes
4:05
well, you'll be in the cast Wow
4:09
That's crazy I just assumed it was like
4:12
reverse psychology stuff where it's like, you know,
4:14
you instead of saying good luck You wish
4:16
something bad on someone so if you know
4:19
that happened. Yeah, okay. That is nuts. All
4:21
right. Wow it you blew my mind How
4:25
you doing otherwise Doing great
4:27
doing great just having been you know busy with
4:30
writing stuff busy with this. It's a Lexi
4:33
says I'm now jinx cuz I said Macbeth. Oh, I said it
4:35
again No, yeah, things
4:37
are things are great. I'm getting excited for the
4:40
summer season. The game mess is approaching it approaching
4:42
sharp Quickly things are the
4:45
schedule is filling up for playdays very excited about
4:47
that And yeah,
4:49
got some got some stuff to talk about here on a
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Friday. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, my
4:54
I got a handful of appointments scheduled I am
4:56
gonna go into my email later today and get
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the rest scheduled because we don't have like a
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ton of time Cuz we're busy like on Sunday
5:03
with stuff Monday, I'm
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probably gonna be doing something else. So we'll be able
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to get back to play days. So it's like It's
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I'm like and I know that's gonna fill up the
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quickest So I'm gonna get in there today I get
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all those appointments done and set and then we'll figure
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out who's doing them from dry bomb Later, so it's
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okay. That's plan one And then I really am just
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kind of I continue to side-eye all the work I
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need to do to actually book the couch It's
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like one thing to have people be like I would love to
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be on there. I'm like, yeah, okay We can do that. That
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is awesome. Now. I need to like Heard
5:32
all of you cats toward the couch
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with like helpful information and making sure
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everyone knows like oh, it's their parking
5:39
validation Stuff like that things
5:41
I'm terrible at so we'll get
5:43
to it We'll get it all figured out but I gotta
5:45
just like instead of keeping it in the side I I
5:47
just got to take it on grab the bowl by the
5:49
horns and all that stuff It's gonna be a good time
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though summer came fast. It's gonna be great Can't
5:53
wait. Can't wait. Yeah, you've got this. We
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appreciate you Jason. I appreciate that. All
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mess with Kingdom Come Deliverance 2
6:32
will be twice as big and more diverse.
6:35
I did not put the E there at
6:37
the end of diverse. So I almost said
6:39
divers. It has more divers in this one.
6:41
That's just from Ethan Gotch over in Kotaku.
6:44
War Horse Studios announced Kingdom Come Deliverance
6:46
2, the sequel to an ambitious and
6:48
intriguing 2018 medieval RPG
6:50
that had plenty of technical flaws
6:52
and also became a lightning rod
6:54
for controversy over its directors comments
6:56
about race and historical accuracy. The
6:59
development team is promising the next game,
7:01
which will release in 2024 will be
7:03
much bigger and feature a wide range
7:05
of ethnicities this time around. It's
7:07
coming to PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X and
7:10
S PC in the name of whether
7:12
that's through Steam or Epic or anything like that. Kingdom
7:14
Come Deliverance 2 will once again put players
7:16
in the boots of Henry of Scallets as
7:18
his quest for revenge. He's gonna have a
7:20
sorting of slice
7:24
watermelons in any way he wants. Over
7:26
the killing of his family shows chaos
7:28
in 15th century Bohemia in Central Europe.
7:31
A new trailer shows the game's larger
7:33
scope and grim realism in action. Kingdom
7:38
Come Deliverance did pretty well. I'm not surprised that
7:40
they're going back to it. I'm also not surprised
7:42
that they're like, it's gonna be more diverse this time.
7:45
We just don't even want to deal with that controversy. Although I'm
7:47
sure they would have sold just fine
7:49
whether they, you know, harbored that controversy
7:51
or not. But
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yes, that's nice to hear. Are you someone
7:55
who is excited about a Kingdom Come Deliverance
7:58
2? This game... has
8:00
always been one of those games on my backlog
8:02
where I'm like, you know what? I really should
8:04
start that and then 55 other
8:06
games come out and I'm better even further.
8:09
But it's always been one that's put on
8:11
like my fringe. Like I do want to
8:13
try this. It seems like an interesting setting.
8:16
It's first person to which you don't really
8:18
get from a medieval game like this. So
8:20
it's one I do want to check it
8:22
out. Will this sequel be the thing to
8:25
make that happen? I don't know if time allows
8:27
maybe. But I also
8:29
like that a I don't want
8:31
to say a smaller game. But like if we're
8:33
doing the double AAA thing when this game first
8:35
came out, it was certainly a double
8:37
a sort of like, yes, not
8:40
not, you know, triple a super like highest
8:42
budget sort of game. So the fact that
8:44
it's sold enough and succeeded enough to get
8:46
a sequel, especially in the current climate where
8:49
you don't know if your game's ever going
8:51
to be successful. I'm happy with that. I'm
8:53
glad that they're able to do this. They were able to
8:55
make it happen. And soon coming out this year 2024. I
8:57
felt for sure. When
9:00
this was first teased, they'd be saying 2025. But
9:02
no, it sounds like they're going to make the
9:04
end of the year. Sounds like yeah, sounds like
9:07
they're planning to get out this year. And you're
9:09
right, like it's nice to see someone be able
9:11
to like make an idea that feels way ambitious,
9:13
like way too ambitious in a lot of ways,
9:15
and be like mostly deliver on it to a
9:17
point where it can succeed, and then have a
9:19
chance to go out and try it again, which
9:21
is exactly what they say they're going to do
9:23
here. What we are making now is what
9:25
Kingdom Come Deliverance was supposed to be in
9:27
the beginning. But we we were not able
9:29
to do it because we didn't have enough
9:31
resources and experience. And that's
9:33
from creative director Daniel Vavra. Yeah,
9:37
it's in that's like, okay, that's I know exactly that
9:39
feeling, where it's like you try something, you figure out
9:41
all the things that you did wrong the first time,
9:43
you're like, okay, we're gonna go and do it again.
9:45
And this time bigger and better and fix a lot
9:47
of the problems we had the first time around. That's
9:49
one way that we get a lot of these indie
9:51
sequels, where it's like, yeah, we want to do things
9:53
right this time. Sometimes you get it's like, yeah, we kind of
9:55
nailed it. So we're going to change things up and make a
9:57
3d game as a sequel to our 2d game. I like that
10:00
as well. But I appreciate when a
10:02
studio has a chance to do something like this.
10:04
I also do appreciate for real that they're like,
10:06
there will be more diversity because the idea that
10:10
like the distance between Bohemia, like
10:12
where that's located, and the
10:14
continent of Africa is like less than
10:16
from like me to
10:18
like Tennessee. Like it's
10:21
not far. It's not far. Just just like
10:23
the law of large numbers is going to
10:25
dictate there would have been some people of
10:27
color walking around here and there. And that
10:30
part of the world at all times throughout
10:32
the history of the world. So whenever people
10:34
try to like, do that
10:36
whole like, there were there were no people of
10:38
color in that part of the world at that
10:40
time. It's like, that's just a historical. So you're
10:42
trying to say historical accuracy. And then you say
10:44
something like that. It's like, I just kind of
10:46
sound like casual racism to me. So
10:49
now that they're coming out and stating that
10:51
that will be different this time. And so
10:53
okay, well, I'll give them a chance. I
10:55
did play that kingdom come deliverance a little
10:57
bit originally when it came out. And
11:00
I got those vibes. Now, of course, it could have
11:02
been colored by the controversy at the time. But I
11:04
got the vibes. This was a game kind of made
11:06
by dude bros. And it had like a broey vibe
11:08
about its story where it's, you know,
11:10
it's like four dudes that that kind of
11:12
pollen around throughout the beginning of the game.
11:14
And you go and you deal with one
11:16
character. And I just remember being so annoyed
11:19
that's like, the character that
11:21
you deal with has a wife and his wife's
11:23
name is just that character's wife and she's like,
11:25
she didn't have a name. And it's like, these
11:27
things are sticking out to me because of the
11:29
controversy. But it's also just kind of like make
11:31
some improvements there do a little bit better. And
11:33
I hope that they actually do this time. So
11:35
we'll see. Yeah, wow. I
11:37
wonder if I wonder if
11:39
it's more of a just get a synopsis on YouTube
11:41
sort of thing now. I'm hoping that,
11:44
you know, you talked about sequels and the
11:46
second game being with the first game should have been
11:48
a very famous example that I think is Assassin's Creed.
11:50
So that can follow that trajectory and
11:52
become like what it was
11:54
to like a more improved, more
11:56
streamlined version of the initial vision.
11:58
Now with, you know, hopefully
12:00
no controversy. Just keep your feet out of your mouth
12:03
and say what you did. I
12:05
think I am cautiously optimistic about
12:07
this one. You know,
12:10
the dude bro thing, if that continues, that's
12:12
an issue, just give everybody a name. It's
12:14
not that hard. If I tried to say
12:16
that my wife was just Jason's wife, she'd
12:18
slap me and rightfully so. I
12:21
mean, just give people names, it's not that hard.
12:23
But yeah, I'm hoping that this works out for
12:25
them. I always like when a game, you know,
12:27
can build itself into a strong IP with regular
12:30
releases. And if the first one sets the table
12:32
and the second one is able to eat, let's
12:34
do it. Yep, exactly. And it's,
12:37
I know there's, it seems like there's a lot of people
12:39
working on this game that really care about it. I hope
12:41
they're able to deliver something that is interesting and fun. And
12:43
at the very least, I
12:45
think it continues to be a sign that
12:47
these games are possible by studios of all
12:49
different shapes and sizes. And you can make
12:51
an open world game that like, you know,
12:53
this is a very popular game on Nexus
12:56
Mods. It's got a ton of mods. It's
12:58
like, oh, you know, that used to be
13:00
just the realm of a game like Skyrim.
13:02
And indie games wouldn't really get that
13:04
full treatment, but this did. And
13:06
so, okay, that at the very least is
13:08
promising in the way that as
13:11
we go forward and these a game like Fallout
13:13
5 seems so impossibly
13:15
far away. We're gonna
13:17
be in a world where it's much more
13:19
likely that studios inspired by those games are
13:21
gonna be able to get them out in
13:24
slightly smaller variations here more and more frequently.
13:26
And that's exciting to me as someone who's
13:28
like, I like open world first person RPGs
13:30
of all, no matter the setting.
13:33
And if that's something that these two teams feel like
13:35
comfortable making, that's exciting. Yeah,
13:38
one of the most
13:40
more recent games that I have
13:42
100% completed, like I was driven
13:44
to 100% complete was Amalur. Let's
13:47
talk about controversy with an open world game.
13:49
You know, let's talk about that guy. But
13:51
I loved that world. I loved the way
13:54
it played. I loved the fiction within it.
13:56
So if deliverance too, can
14:00
sort of emulate that sort of feeling in
14:02
me. Now that was third person. I don't know if
14:04
first person will really make a difference in that
14:06
regard, but I guess there's more of a realistic bent
14:09
to this with it being first person. I'm
14:11
hope, yeah, but if this could
14:14
engender in me what
14:16
Amalur did back in 2012, I couldn't stop
14:18
playing that, man. I went through 75, 80
14:20
hours in like a week and a half. I thought it was awesome. So
14:24
yeah, I mean, if the potential is there and I give
14:26
it a shot and I really like it, then that'll be
14:28
awesome. But I feel like
14:30
the main issue is the
14:32
one that they set back in the first
14:34
game. You gotta go us some more of
14:36
the world, show us that diversity, let us
14:38
talk to people and please God, if you're
14:40
gonna have more diversity, make... how
14:43
do I say this with tact? I think what people
14:45
know what I mean. Just be respectful. Yeah. You know
14:47
what I'm saying? Like if you add other... Just consider
14:49
it. Yes, just consider it.
14:52
Don't just don't be dumb about it, please. Yes.
14:54
It's a hard thing to ask at this day
14:56
and age. Don't be dumb, but just don't be
14:58
dumb. Yeah, and it's the kind of thing where
15:00
that is where, you know, consultants, the big scary
15:02
word, they come in and they can provide perspectives
15:05
that you may not have. But
15:07
even if it just shows a little consideration from a
15:09
small team that can't afford consultants, I don't know. They
15:11
probably can, but even it's like something
15:13
that just shows like you spend a little time thinking
15:16
about these characters and they're not just background
15:19
that goes a long way. Last
15:21
thing, this is, you know,
15:23
it's a historically set RPG. I
15:26
love fantasy games, I love sci-fi games. I
15:29
think we forget, like, we could just set games
15:31
in the real world in the past or present,
15:33
whatever, and that they could also just be an
15:35
RPG like Skyrim. This game
15:37
is also proving that that is
15:40
the case in a way that's bigger than like,
15:42
you know, recent examples like Pentiment, a great game
15:44
that I love, historical RPG. It was
15:46
like, yeah, but we're gonna scale that down so we can
15:48
make that make sense. And this is like, no, we're gonna
15:51
try to look as every bit like a Skyrim
15:53
as possible and so, okay, That
15:55
also gets me excited. I Hope more
15:57
studios look to historical settings. Their
16:00
games going forward. All.
16:02
right? Moving along here: Microsoft has more
16:04
games on Playstation store top twenty five
16:06
than Sony. This is from Jonas Mackey
16:08
at Game Raptor. Microsoft Gaming program got
16:11
a lot bag the lot bigger last
16:13
fall when they but by Activision Blizzard
16:15
and in combination with the fact that
16:17
they now have released a handful of
16:19
older titles and Summit Hi Fi, Rush
16:21
grounded and shortly see if these two
16:24
competing formats something we'd ever seen before
16:26
his happened on have happened Thursday on
16:28
Playstation. Tweet town journalists Eric strictly noticed
16:30
that there are now more Microsoft. Games
16:32
in the top twenty five of the most
16:34
so titles the other Playstation store than Sony
16:36
has a clear sign of how big Microsoft
16:39
actually as in the gaming world today, but
16:41
also proof how important Sony is to them.
16:43
And I think that lessons right there's kind
16:45
of it like us when we look at
16:47
this. do you feel like one side of
16:49
this console war is benefiting more from this
16:51
many other? It's I who's winning of fact
16:54
that Sony is now getting money from his
16:56
games are on their platform or Microsoft now
16:58
getting money from selling these games on another
17:00
platform Seems like everybody's winning to me. I
17:02
don't know. what do you think? I agree one
17:04
thousand per cent. This is not as
17:06
surprising as it should be. At first
17:08
glance I like in this to like
17:10
a sports radio headline where they just
17:12
try to like. For. Some us
17:15
into creating a story that while people
17:17
might be cutting innings dabbled stress while
17:19
people up, some when in reality both sides
17:21
are winning. Like you said, Microsoft has games
17:23
are ranked you another platform so when
17:25
he's getting the money from those purchases and
17:27
honestly it makes sense because they're all
17:29
still new. right? That was all. We're
17:32
not even a year out from the first
17:34
edition of Microsoft, the Playstation. Of course they're
17:36
going to be up in the top of
17:38
the twenty five because I'm in, I'm a
17:40
foreigner all out as well. Like followed by
17:42
a man was follow games ranking on place
17:44
they says well splash we're all working together
17:46
It happened to this point Yes exactly Yeah
17:48
so so it makes perfect sense for this
17:50
if if if you think it through logically
17:52
and try to not have that you know
17:54
jump reaction if you're and x box and
17:56
of like ah ha sooner we got you
17:58
are if you're Saudi Sand. Like no, this
18:00
can't happen. It, It
18:03
just makes perfect logical sense. Now there
18:05
is a way that Sony can alleviate
18:07
this and it's very simple. Release games
18:09
that young priest of games out at
18:12
head. Unseat these from your top twenty
18:14
five lists and you won't have a
18:16
problem. Desserts That that blows Deron right
18:19
now isn't helping either. The Playstation fan
18:21
base one something to play, and if
18:23
Microsoft is the one that's going to
18:26
provided to them, where else can they
18:28
go right? Exactly how. I. It
18:30
all makes perfect sense to me. I hope
18:32
everybody is joining these games that in get
18:35
to play before and will enjoy. Sea of
18:37
Thieves now become number A on the list
18:39
Them sore arm and. You. Know
18:41
Sony they want to do this. start
18:44
making more. Games were stored. You know
18:46
buying studio's like Microsoft it because they
18:48
have. Be honest One, two three four
18:50
of them are from acquisitions identify. I
18:53
get onto my nicely. all of them
18:55
are because it says as Call of
18:57
Duty Fall Of For Followed Seventy Six
18:59
Grounded Make Minecraft Overwatch to Sea of
19:02
Thieves. I mean this is rare but
19:04
I was acquisition. you know, twenty five
19:06
years at how vital. Still an acquisition.
19:08
Yeah I yeah miles it. I mean
19:11
the but. What? That also
19:13
doesn't matter like that in the day, but
19:15
these are Microsoft Public Games now I am. That's
19:17
that's just how it works. arm and a
19:19
sort of those the seven games on the
19:21
list Sony has five. He writes that you're so
19:23
we could start releasing games against some point
19:25
and that that will deal with this. but it's
19:27
like in the meantime I just. I
19:30
that they struggle to see how that don't get a guy
19:32
get when people like look at the X box console the
19:34
like well this has been on the reason that get x
19:36
box council and you're right. It's. Over what
19:38
else do I probably will say they're not gonna
19:40
stop making those consoles but that is not the
19:42
thrust anymore and I mean we could sit over
19:45
and over and over again that the not that's
19:47
not the number, they're looking at the number of
19:49
council so that's not the future that they are
19:51
envisioning a world where everyone has an X box
19:53
and so they are just Raikkonen money from people
19:55
buying stuff on x box as much as can
19:58
be won by accident than like potential place. The
20:00
play These games. Playstation is going to be
20:02
another and that's just how it's going to
20:04
be. So if you keep looking up through
20:06
that prism of while this means people going
20:08
to bite your X boxes Yeah, If
20:11
you put that to the side of the
20:13
way, Microsoft obviously has. They.
20:15
Okay now what is the shortcoming? Hear what? What is
20:17
the problem? What is the negative? And it's like very
20:19
hard to even paint one of those I if he
20:21
even if you try really hard. Jason Rae. No.
20:24
Not at all that be there is as
20:26
as someone as do they damn just put
20:28
in the chat every street as an X
20:30
Box. Now if you have to be whether
20:32
sometimes that scream will have a Playstation attached
20:34
to it but you'll be playing X box
20:36
games on it's on. The more that they
20:38
sort of I was a completely distance themselves
20:40
because they're not, they're still going to make
20:42
those not source for their for the X
20:44
box faithful people. just like that ecosystem more.
20:46
There will always be a market for that.
20:48
But the more that they make that a
20:50
compliment rather than the full focus of their
20:52
gaming strategies, the more. It's just gonna pay dividends
20:55
not only for them, but for the council's that
20:57
are hosting these games to. It's a win win.
20:59
There's really no other way to look at it
21:01
unless you're blinded by blue or green loyalty. It's
21:03
a win win everywhere. Yeah. I'm
21:06
I think that size of for it for
21:08
so I okay here's the other thing I'm
21:10
thinking then our competition. You think that this
21:12
increases the sense of competition that place is.
21:15
Now we're like oh man we gotta put
21:17
up more games because Microsoft of selling more
21:19
stuff than we are on our own platform.
21:21
Or do you think this like lessons the
21:23
need to but they've Now we are getting
21:26
money from these games. We can sit back
21:28
and sort of just put out our game
21:30
so when they're ready or how do you
21:32
feel about like the state of competition between
21:35
Microsoft and Sony. I. Think both
21:37
of those things supply one is what the going
21:39
to say. They're going to say. Old Microsoft
21:41
Components under armour. We must protect this house. They're
21:43
going to start delivered. You know, developing more
21:45
games and releasing or games but behind closed doors
21:48
in the boardroom in the see sweet agree be
21:50
like that. Yeah, we're getting money from it.
21:52
The matter what we do, we're get money So
21:54
we're going to let this ride. They can have
21:56
their phones and hey, maybe the Sony people
21:58
enjoy Microsoft games too. want to say that
22:01
out loud. Maybe they're having fun. They're just,
22:03
it's, I don't think, um, I
22:06
don't think the impetus on competition is as
22:09
prevalent in the C-suites as it is on
22:12
social media. I'll put it that way. Right.
22:14
And I think that, um, the
22:17
competition doesn't, it really
22:19
hasn't come from, uh, oh,
22:21
Xbox versus PlayStation for quite some time, even though
22:23
I think that's the way the company still both
22:25
set it up at the beginning of this generation.
22:27
Even then, they
22:29
knew that the real competition was always coming
22:32
from people's time being divided among a million
22:34
other hobbies they could be spending their time
22:36
with or just, you know, scrolling on their
22:38
phone. You know, every, every minute someone scrolls
22:41
on tech talk is just like, they probably
22:43
see a percentage point less of like the
22:45
likelihood that they're spending money on video
22:47
games on a console. And so the
22:50
competition to get people's attention has actually never
22:52
been like greater. It's never been more of
22:54
a problem for these companies. And so they've
22:56
always, that's why they're spending so much money
22:58
on these games and taking so much time
23:00
because they have to do so much to
23:02
make them stand out. And even
23:04
if Xbox evaporated from the face of the
23:07
planet with everything that, that, that, that now
23:09
entails PlayStation would still have to be doing
23:11
a ton of stuff to get people's attention
23:13
and get excited to go buy a console
23:15
to play these games. So it's
23:18
like, yeah, I'm not worried about competition overall.
23:20
Yeah. And if you wanted to even make
23:23
that, like zoom in that conversation
23:25
on strictly the gaming industry, they may
23:27
feel that like a fortnight or
23:29
a Roblox or one of those big live
23:31
service games that will never die is competition,
23:34
even though it's on their own console. Because
23:36
if you're going to try and release a first
23:38
party live service game, like Sony was right. Well,
23:40
like they canceled a bunch of them, they have to
23:43
beat them in order to get the players in their
23:45
game. So it's,
23:47
it's almost like it's coming from all
23:49
sides. As far as the attention grabbing
23:51
competition is concerned, they don't have time
23:53
for the Xbox PlayStation, Nintendo console war
23:55
anymore because it's increasingly
23:57
irrelevant, even more than it already was. Yeah,
24:00
and it's I think it was beneficial for them in the
24:02
beginning of the generation because that makes it easy to tell
24:05
a story Like hey, you
24:07
have to have this things. We're gonna have these games and the
24:09
other guys don't But
24:11
once that sort of fades to the background a little
24:13
bit The competition remains
24:15
and I think they have a little bit harder
24:17
time explaining Like what
24:19
their place in the market when they don't have a
24:21
direct competitor to like compare themselves to but I know
24:23
that's right I'm impossible task or anything like that and
24:26
you know and to be fair they are still there
24:28
They are still competing in a lot of ways All
24:31
right. Uh, you know what? We're gonna take a
24:33
quick break when we get back We got a
24:35
lot more headlines to get to including what's happening
24:37
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24:40
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All right, we're back I got to remember to turn on
25:21
this other scene because I have I like have our
25:23
names on here now So it looks weird if I
25:26
have the overlay with our names and the headline on
25:28
the screen for the intro It'd be like right in
25:30
the middle of it So i'm like, okay I'll turn
25:32
that on with the two up screen that I have
25:34
and I never remember to switch over to that scene
25:36
But get in the habit of that that's gonna start
25:38
monday. Everybody we're gonna be we're gonna do better I
25:40
promise remind him in the chat remind me Yes,
25:43
switch on the overlay Uh,
25:46
all right next headline here starfield will
25:48
get some really good updates soon says
25:50
tod howard This is from grace bin fell
25:53
at game spot In
25:55
a recent interview. Todd howard said that new
25:57
really good updates for starfield will be announced
26:00
soon. He shared no other details on what
26:02
these updates could be. In conversation with IGN,
26:04
Howard discussed with Bethesda is working on currently.
26:07
He said that the primary development focus is
26:09
currently on Elder Scrolls 6, though updates
26:12
for Fallout 76 continue. He hedged on
26:14
saying any specific details about Fallout 5,
26:16
saying I'm going to avoid putting dates
26:18
on anything, which we talked about yesterday.
26:21
Finally, he said that we're doing a lot
26:23
of Starfield work as well, so we have
26:26
some really good updates that are going to
26:28
get announced soon for that game. Yeah, I
26:31
mean it doesn't feel like Starfield
26:34
reached a threshold
26:37
where if in
26:39
five years they announced they're making a new one, people will
26:41
be excited. If they announced they were making a TV show
26:43
in five years, people would be like, oh, I'm very interested
26:45
in that because I care about the lore. Do you think
26:48
it got to that point? I'm like, I think it's like
26:50
right there, but I don't know if it got over that
26:52
hump. What do you think? Unfortunately, the
26:54
most interesting thing I've seen about the lore is
26:56
after you beat it for the first time. You
26:58
have to finish that game to get to the
27:00
very interesting stuff. So the big
27:02
problem was from beginning to that point was
27:05
not as interesting as they
27:07
needed it to be. So what
27:09
kind of these really good updates better
27:12
be for that onboarding? If you're going to
27:14
consider the entire first run of this game
27:16
from a lore perspective onboarding, you
27:18
need to make that first part
27:21
more interesting. You need to fill these
27:23
planets with more things. You need to
27:25
give the players more things to do.
27:27
I loved the concept of Starfield and
27:29
I loved a lot of what they
27:31
did here, but yes, it is not.
27:33
It didn't quite get
27:35
where it wanted to be and it's still
27:37
not there. I don't mean
27:39
to laugh, but the fact that he says
27:42
that really good updates are coming through. The
27:44
chat just went where were they? What have
27:46
you been doing? They wanted to get the
27:48
really bad ones out of the way first
27:50
when they were making the game, then do
27:52
the really good stuff. That's just a game
27:54
development. Exactly. So I think that
27:57
there is potential here. It's
28:00
a lost cause yet. I like the fact they're going
28:02
to come in and do updates that you said starfield
28:04
TV show and I instantly Perked up because that would
28:06
make a lot of sense. Yeah, I think I prefer
28:08
the mass effect show first, but that's just me well,
28:10
yeah, I If
28:13
they're considering if they're not if they're want to update
28:15
this game and try and use things to bring people
28:18
back Go for it, right? But
28:20
for some as I'm seeing in the chat right
28:22
here, it's too late, right? They tried it Yeah,
28:24
I gave them the shot and It's
28:27
not happening. Sorry. They're done. They're
28:30
moving on to other things. So Is
28:33
is Pandora's box already open could be I
28:36
would be willing to go back and give it a shot if they
28:38
if these really good Updates are going to be really good But
28:41
there are other games on the horizon that do similar
28:43
things like like I said, yeah He's working on a
28:45
new mass effect that might come out in 2030 Out
28:50
of Worlds 2 is still out in the pariah
28:52
somewhere. Yeah, but it's probably not as far off
28:54
as we think I bet Okay.
28:56
All right. Um, I don't want you to
28:58
get in trouble with the headlines here. Yeah,
29:01
that was just me guessing everybody But
29:04
yeah, so I'm I'm I'm afraid that
29:07
this game these updates might be too
29:09
late and some other titles might come in and eat it's
29:11
lunch Yeah, I think when
29:13
I like look back at starfield, it's a game that
29:15
I enjoyed a lot
29:17
of And then
29:19
I could see the seams everywhere though
29:22
And I think the real thing that happened
29:24
here was the thing I was always
29:26
worried about when they were making it it was Them
29:29
saying we are making a game that's going to last
29:31
for 10 years Because that's not
29:33
what they were saying when they were making Skyrim and
29:36
that game was a game that lasted for 10 years
29:39
It's like that was like you you focused on making a
29:41
game that people would be happy with when they bought it
29:43
immediately And as soon
29:45
as they jumped in they were gonna be
29:47
alright, this is great You weren't thinking about
29:49
setting up this world and environment to support
29:51
people who are gonna come in with mods
29:53
and and have like You know 20,000 daily
29:55
active users on Steam or something like that
29:57
for years and years beyond all that yet
30:00
it happened anyhow. Once they shifted
30:02
to be like, well, we got to replicate
30:04
that again and started thinking in that mindset,
30:06
I think they kind of screwed themselves and
30:08
started building the game backwards from that point
30:10
of view. And by
30:12
the time they got to the point where it's like, okay,
30:14
well, what is the game that people are, what's the first impression
30:16
going to be? They didn't nail
30:19
that. And I think that was the
30:21
biggest sin of Starfield by far. And
30:23
I, because of that, I
30:25
think they're in a situation where they were building this
30:27
game with the idea that it would last for a
30:30
very long time. And so they wouldn't be
30:32
thinking about a sequel for many, many years.
30:34
And so there's no chance to like go
30:36
back and do another one anytime soon. And
30:38
I think these updates are going to come out and
30:41
likely be, you know, they'll perk
30:43
things up here and there. They'll make the
30:45
thing look a little bit more palatable. If
30:48
you were to really go back into it,
30:50
I just don't think it's going to change
30:52
Starfield's fortunes overall though. No,
30:54
I think that ship has, that
30:56
spaceship has definitely launched to adapt
30:58
the cliche. I wonder
31:00
though, if maybe, I
31:04
don't want to say a story expansion because the
31:06
whole point is different stories, whoever, so I don't
31:09
even know what you would do. Do you just
31:11
put more things on the existing planets that
31:14
people might run into, like random
31:16
encounters, procedurally generated things? Like
31:18
what, I'm trying to think what the best
31:20
approach would be here even. Maybe like new
31:22
sub stories on certain planets that were doing
31:24
anything before. I know
31:27
landing on Earth is interesting. Maybe that could be a
31:29
little more interesting. Maybe
31:31
you create planets in Starfield that just go
31:33
to other Bethesda games for
31:35
some weird crossover thing. I
31:38
wouldn't even know where to begin. And that's
31:41
sad. If I were in their shoes,
31:43
the thing I would focus on is like
31:46
revising how planets feel when you land on them.
31:49
Like I would make a couple of
31:51
those planets a little bit more barren.
31:54
I would maybe reduce the number of them in total.
31:57
And then I would make it so that there was
31:59
like a couple. more instances of like, okay,
32:01
I did stumble across the moon that does
32:03
have something very interesting here and There's
32:06
more going on there and then for every
32:08
planet you land on I would completely rework
32:10
What it feels like from going from your
32:12
ship to the thing that is interesting. I
32:14
would just shrink everything down so much because
32:18
the the five-minute walk The
32:20
five to ten minute walk to get to the thing that
32:22
you're trying to get to because that when you land it's
32:24
like we're gonna put you here and then we're automatically gonna
32:26
space out all the all the important
32:29
waypoints Procedurally so that
32:31
you have to walk over there like that
32:33
completely kills the pace of that game It
32:35
was such a such a bad
32:37
decision and then having no fast way to really
32:39
to get across those landscapes with vehicles or anything
32:42
Like that and then later
32:44
on it would like fix up base building
32:46
make that matter more stuff stuff like that
32:48
But we'll see apparently there is
32:50
a story expansion included in the like special edition
32:52
so that they have to make one of those
32:54
They probably have it well on
32:56
its way. But yeah, there will be a story
32:58
expansion at some point I do wonder what that
33:01
looks like. Yeah Well
33:04
see starfield is it's an interesting one But like
33:06
I got as soon as everyone kind of got
33:08
back in a fallout I did start out start
33:10
fall out new Vegas. I'm like, yeah,
33:12
God the vibes around this are just so much
33:14
better It's so much nicer to be in this
33:16
world that is fleshed out
33:18
well thought out Especially especially
33:20
new Vegas that I'm willing to enjoy so
33:23
for our I
33:25
like three and four a ton as well I played a little bit
33:27
of four when I was getting that set up for Mike to play
33:29
with all the mods I'm just like yeah Maybe
33:33
let's just let starfield lie. It's kind of where
33:35
I end up on this if anybody's developing a
33:37
fallout project be it I know fought we've talked
33:39
about five a bit this week but like if
33:41
there's a side project going on that they haven't
33:44
announced yet or Something fall out
33:46
to tie into that they better be
33:48
fast-tracking that right now if they weren't
33:50
already because fallout is hotter than it's
33:53
been In years and not
33:55
capitalizing on that from a game perspective
33:57
other than people just going back and
33:59
playing old games would be, in
34:01
my opinion, a massive missed opportunity. And
34:04
just one more thing, the fact that we're talking about
34:06
Starfield and sidetracked to Fallout tells you
34:08
everything you need to know about the Starfield conversation. And
34:11
I think that's exactly where everyone is. I mean, we
34:13
like held off there. I
34:15
would have talked about Fallout five seconds into that conversation,
34:17
but we held off. We were pretty responsible there. I'm
34:19
proud of us, Jason. Me too. Boy,
34:22
I'd rather be playing Fallout. Absolutely. Yeah.
34:25
Okay. Super Nintendo
34:27
World's Donkey Kong Country Park delayed to
34:30
late 2024. This is the park in Japan, of
34:32
course. This is from Jim Norman at
34:34
Nintendo Life. It was right at the end of 2023
34:37
that Universal Studios announced the opening date
34:39
for its Donkey Kong Country Park at
34:41
Super Nintendo World Japan. It
34:43
was supposed to be this spring any day
34:46
now, we would assume, but instead the studio has announced
34:48
that the opening has been pushed back to late 2024.
34:51
The delay was announced by Universal Studio Japan
34:53
on Twitter with the notice giving no indication
34:55
of why the opening had been delayed, but
34:58
confirming that more details would be coming in
35:00
the future when they are ready. We've
35:03
been seeing some videos come out of
35:05
the park and like the
35:08
minecart roller coaster track being
35:10
tested and that looking pretty cool. I
35:13
bet they're like looking at a bunch
35:15
of things. We want to make a ton of tweaks, get this
35:17
just right. And that's the kind of thing that can push these
35:19
things back months. I would assume I'm not a park guy in
35:21
terms of like paying attention to this stuff. This
35:24
doesn't seem too abnormal to me though. I don't know.
35:26
What do you think? No, I'm 100% with you
35:29
on that being a fellow Disney miscreant
35:31
like Mr. Mike Jekyll
35:53
looking at that minecart roller coaster man. That's
35:55
really awesome. And honestly, with Super
35:58
Mario World and now this, the most nostalgic
36:00
thing about it and maybe you'll agree with me
36:02
on this is having to wait from when Japan
36:04
gets it to when we Get on Localization
36:08
days when you see all these people and even
36:10
like California to Orlando, right? Cuz I don't know
36:12
if I'm gonna get to Universal
36:14
in California Orlando is a little bit easier for me So
36:16
seeing all these people having all these fun all these great
36:18
rides me being like yep. Here I am Philadelphia I don't
36:21
know when I'll get to try it. But uh
36:24
Luckily, maybe this delay will sort of
36:26
lessen that were Japanese
36:28
hopefully park hours versus American park hours and they
36:31
figure out what's going on with this and they
36:33
can move it over here faster at
36:35
least to California and we can all enjoy it
36:37
a little bit sooner and I I
36:40
do worry that the fact that
36:42
they're being so Vague means there's some
36:44
sort of safety flaw, right? Like there's
36:46
some weird issue, but I guess Not
36:49
mentioning that makes sense too because they wanted to open
36:51
in late 20 to 44 without them having to go
36:53
Yep, we fixed it that thing we announced. It's all
36:56
good now And I would
36:58
assume like safety flaws are very common like that's
37:00
like, you know, you've got a bunch of machinery
37:03
Going through one things and it's like, okay
37:05
Yeah, we measured all these things out if
37:07
you're off by a couple of millimeters I
37:09
assume sometimes it's like I we can imagine a
37:11
world in which this kill someone one out of a
37:13
billion times Let's just fix that. I
37:16
could easily see that I think they're just doing their due
37:18
diligence So yeah, they probably just like hey We're
37:20
gonna fix this up have it ready to go
37:22
and then by the time it's opened We're 100%
37:25
sure that it's safe and fun and all the
37:27
things that actually matter Yeah,
37:30
and Orlando is opening up like
37:32
net early next year, right? I
37:34
think it is like 2025 Super
37:39
Nintendo world that sounds like Florida that
37:41
sounds right. Yeah, I think it's Spring
37:45
2025 because I know my family
37:47
and I are planning a trip. We're planning a trip
37:49
to Disney World this September And
37:51
it will not be open yet So
37:54
I think we immediately said we're going to be
37:57
planning another trip in 2025 so I can scoot over
37:59
to universal And uh become a kid for
38:01
a little while, but yeah, so yes 2025 does make sense Uh
38:04
spring I think too too. I don't know if they put an
38:06
actual month on it. Yeah, I think it's just spring But
38:09
yeah, that sounds right. Um I
38:13
am i'm excited about all this. It's like boy
38:15
I when are they going to expand beyond like
38:17
the mario donkey kong stuff? I I mean, I
38:19
think zelda is pretty much on the table for
38:21
orlando. Those are the rumors Uh,
38:23
but like are they I don't need
38:25
um attractions the big attractions
38:27
for everything But when I went to
38:29
super nintendo world in california, uh, and
38:32
it was like, okay, it's just it really is just all Mario
38:35
stuff and really it's just kind
38:37
of mario kart and then generic mario merch Um,
38:40
and you know the mario themed restaurant and stuff like
38:42
that It's like, okay I would wouldn't mind if there
38:44
was like a cart here Or there
38:46
that referenced a couple of these other games that aren't
38:48
ever going to get their own ride or if the
38:51
merch at the store Didn't just have mario
38:53
kart and mario stuff if there was the chance to
38:55
see something Uh from star tropics
38:57
or whatever else. That would be pretty cool
39:00
I I hope they can get to that point
39:02
here relatively soon where it's like, okay Yeah, you
39:04
came here from mario, but this is nintendo world
39:07
and you can get all kinds of different nintendo stuff here
39:09
Uh, that would be I think that'd be pretty neat. I
39:11
just in like smaller experiences. Nothing huge I'm,
39:13
not expecting a roller coaster based on star
39:15
fox even Right. They have
39:17
to have in storage somewhere all of the
39:20
old e3 booth Probably just put
39:22
like luigi's mansion put the gooey g guy there take
39:24
a picture with him There was a I think a
39:26
pickman three or was a picker had within pickman three
39:28
because pickman four wasn't even announced yet You could take
39:31
a picture with the pickman. Yeah, bring those out Just
39:33
let them for photo ops if you want to if
39:35
you want to make it one of those I know
39:38
it's disney term It's not universal term But memory maker
39:40
where you take a picture with the pickman and then
39:42
there'll be a couple on your shoulder You know stuff
39:44
like that that whole all that opportunity is there You
39:46
just got to go through the the storage facility
39:48
see what you have where you can fit it
39:50
in the park I agree with that 100% and
39:53
a good place to do it is if you're
39:55
connecting super nintendo world with donkey con world Put
39:57
it in the connection make that walkway
39:59
a little interesting. It makes perfect sense to
40:01
me. Yep. And I get why that
40:03
wouldn't happen in California and stuff like that. They
40:05
have such little space. They're trying to maximize all
40:07
of it. But, you know, Orlando, let's make it
40:10
happen. All
40:12
right. This is a story just for me. You
40:14
will get to play Sabacc in the Star Wars
40:16
Outlaws game from Ubisoft. This is from Jonas Mackie
40:18
at Game Reactor. It's actually very
40:20
strange in these times when every other
40:22
major adventure introduces its own card game
40:24
that we've never got to play Sabacc
40:26
in a Star Wars adventure video game
40:28
before. We've known about the game since
40:30
the early 80s. It was first mentioned
40:32
in the 1983 novel Lando Calrissian and the
40:34
Mine Harp of Charu. And of course, it's
40:36
most famous for Han Solo winning the Millennium
40:39
Falcon in a round with Lando Calrissian. Something
40:41
we actually got to see in Solo, a
40:43
Star Wars story from 2018. But
40:45
now we will finally get to play Sabacc
40:48
ourselves as massive entertainment offers Sabacc gambling in
40:50
the upcoming Star Wars Outlaws. I
40:53
always like a card game in Star Wars because
40:55
it does remind me of Sabacc, which is like
40:57
something that comes up in the extended universe novels
40:59
all the time. And then they find its way
41:02
into Solo. But every
41:04
card game in Star Wars is always like, we're not going to
41:06
really make Sabacc. We're going to make our own thing. What's
41:09
the one in the Republic called Puzok?
41:11
Something like that. It's been a while. Yeah. And
41:15
so this is pretty cool that they're actually going
41:17
to try to translate that. And I definitely, a
41:19
big part of this is like one of my
41:22
favorite book series when I was young was the
41:24
Han Solo trilogy. And the Sabacc
41:26
card game, like really was a big part of that.
41:28
So I have like some of the rules up in
41:30
my head, like the cards randomly shift
41:32
every once in a while at completely random
41:34
intervals. But you could put them in an
41:36
interference field, and that stops them from changing.
41:38
So you're trying to get an idiots array,
41:40
which is like a certain series of cards.
41:43
And the only way to do that is to
41:45
like lock them down and then maybe wait for
41:48
one of your cards to change and then play
41:50
your hand right then. It sounds pretty cool. I
41:52
wonder how, what it was like to take something
41:54
that was written for stories and turn it into
41:57
an actual game that you play. That doesn't always
41:59
work, right? why we haven't seen it before up
42:01
to this point, right? Correct. And
42:04
I think that this is also an indication
42:06
of just how deep into the vault massive
42:09
was allowed to go, that they were
42:11
able to bring this back. Because as you said,
42:13
it's been referenced a couple of times, but it's
42:15
much more prevalent in the extended universe. And they've
42:17
been very cautious about what they brought out of
42:19
the extended universe since basically cutting it off when
42:22
they bought it when they bought the Star Wars
42:25
franchise. So seeing it here now is very cool.
42:27
But I think it may even
42:29
give it a little more universal appeal that you might
42:31
start to see it again, not just in solo, but
42:33
maybe in some of the side projects of Disney Plus
42:35
or in the films. It's
42:37
a good place to introduce it. If Queen's
42:39
Blood is any indication, in-game card games are
42:42
a lot of fun, and people like playing
42:44
them. So it makes perfect
42:46
sense in the setting of
42:48
the game. It makes sense for a franchise
42:50
as a whole. It definitely reeks of Disney
42:52
synergy. I would love
42:54
to know. If I ever get a chance
42:56
to talk to these devs, I would love
42:58
to get into that process of figuring out
43:00
those rules, figuring out how to translate it
43:03
into and make it playable for the character
43:05
or for the players playing the game, excuse
43:07
me. Just how much detail
43:09
they were allowed to glean from the... There's
43:11
got to be some sort of like master
43:13
Star Wars lore, you know, under lock and
43:16
key in Mickey's house. So I wonder if
43:18
they were allowed to go in there and flip through the book and see how
43:21
Sabacc is supposed to
43:23
be and make it into Star
43:25
Wars Outlaws. It's a great idea. And
43:28
it's better, as you said, than making a brand
43:30
new one, go reference an older one to bring
43:32
in that nostalgia factor too. Love it. Yeah,
43:35
exactly. It's like another new card
43:37
game would have been fine. I'm
43:40
sure there's infinite card games in the universe
43:42
of Star Wars, sure. But
43:44
to have a chance to finally play Sabacc in a game, especially
43:46
one that I think feels very reminiscent
43:49
of the kinds of stories where Sabacc
43:51
originally showed up. Like, you know, that
43:53
Lando Calrissian story is a story about an outlaw
43:55
Lando Calrissian. And the Han Solo trilogy is all
43:57
about him when he was a smuggler. And
44:00
when he was working for the huts
44:02
and stuff like that. And it's
44:04
like, okay, this is the
44:06
game that reminds me most of what I
44:08
felt reading those stories. So I'm like the
44:10
chance for them to actually deliver on this
44:12
as well. It's like one more checkbox for
44:14
me personally. When I'm like, okay, they're doing,
44:16
they're making the game that I always imagined
44:18
could be possible. We'll see, I'll get
44:20
my hands on it. We'll discover that point. I don't
44:22
envy them, like as you said, trying to figure out
44:24
that process of like, how do you make the rules
44:27
honest to those stories and at the same time,
44:30
still like an interesting risk reward thing. I always
44:32
think of Golden
44:34
Snitch. What's the
44:37
room game? Yeah, Quidditch, yes, Quidditch. I would think of
44:39
Quidditch. They're making a Quidditch video game. I don't know
44:41
if that came out yet or not. It's like, that
44:43
is such a bad sport. It's
44:46
just not a good idea. Cause the
44:48
Golden Snitch is worth so many more
44:50
points. And it's like that
44:52
ends the game as well. And
44:54
it's like, even in like one of the story books, she's
44:56
like, we're going to have one of the characters and
44:59
like get the Golden Snitch just cause he wanted his
45:01
team to stop losing so much. And their team was
45:03
behind so much, they still lost. It's like, yeah, not
45:05
an interesting sport. This would never work in real life, but
45:09
you know, still, they're going to try to make it into a video game.
45:11
We'll see how that goes. All
45:14
right, up next, the Epic's
45:16
Collection Handheld and that's at the Epic's
45:18
Collection Colon Handheld is coming soon to
45:20
Switch. This is from Nintendo, everything. According
45:23
to an eShop listing, the Epic's Collection
45:25
Handheld will soon be made available on
45:27
the Switch. This marks
45:30
another classic release from Pixel Games, which
45:32
includes Blue Lightning, California Games, ElectroCop,
45:35
Gates of Zindocon, Todd's Adventure in
45:37
Slime World and Zarler Mercenary. And
45:39
then they're all part of the
45:41
collection. These are a lot of games
45:43
that like showed up on Lynx. And I think a few
45:45
showed up on Game Gear here and there. But
45:48
that Blue Lightning game is actually
45:50
a really surprisingly good, like
45:53
arcade jet fighter game. Looks a
45:56
lot like Afterburner, but it was
45:58
available for the Lynx. And it will... looks impressive
46:00
for when it came out in the 1980s.
46:04
And I'm excited that a lot of these games are finally getting
46:06
a chance to come out on a platform that a lot of
46:08
people have. Most people
46:10
probably still won't pay attention to it. But I've always
46:12
been like, oh man, that Blue Lightning game is very
46:14
fun. And of course, California games is a classic. And
46:16
I think this is the Lynx version of that as
46:18
well. And that's fine. I
46:21
always wanted to do this Hardy Lynx as a kid. I'm
46:23
glad my parents didn't actually end up getting me one because
46:25
it would have been like a nightmare trying to find batteries
46:27
all the time. I
46:29
still always wanted to win. I don't know. Any of these
46:31
games do anything for you, Jason? Not
46:34
particularly. Admittedly, with the exception of California
46:37
games, I had not heard of most
46:39
of these. Blue Lightning was
46:41
kind of fringe. But California games don't know what
46:43
I ever actually heard of. But I am all
46:45
about restoration and preservation. So the fact
46:47
that there could be games in here that
46:49
I decide that I do like after having
46:52
never heard of them before and being
46:54
able to play them
46:56
for the first time, I will now try Blue Lightning
46:58
because you mentioned it. Electro Cop
47:01
sounds very similar to a
47:04
certain other cop of robot.
47:06
I'm not sure where the
47:08
line is drawn there. But
47:11
yeah, in California games, I did play. Was
47:14
it also one like Genesis 2? I feel like it was
47:16
another. Oh yeah, it was on a lot of stuff, definitely.
47:19
So I definitely would play that too. To play the
47:21
Lynx version would be pretty neat. Honestly,
47:23
I wouldn't mind more of these
47:25
collections from older consoles
47:27
or handhelds that I never had. I also wanted
47:29
the Lynx as a kid just because I always
47:31
read about it in GamePro. Yeah. I was like,
47:34
oh, I want all the video games and we
47:36
couldn't afford everything, obviously. So again, I'm glad my
47:38
parents didn't do that either. We made that big
47:40
32X. We did not make it again. But
47:45
yeah, this is cool. Anytime older
47:48
games can be preserved and restored like this for a
47:50
new audience, even if that new audience is just like
47:52
me, you and a couple older folks, not old folks.
47:57
That's fine with me. Let's
48:00
see what Todd's adventures in slime world are all like. Yeah,
48:02
we got to find out for ourselves I have no idea
48:04
what that game is. So yeah, absolutely And
48:08
I'm like I of course I like
48:10
it when things show up on the subscription services
48:12
I already have so it's like if all these
48:14
showed up on the Atari leagues console getting added
48:16
to Nintendo switch online Of course, I think that's
48:18
preferable But I still like that's like, okay
48:21
A lot of these companies like it's not worth us to
48:23
make that deal then to know it's not quite enough money
48:26
But we will put it as its own collection
48:28
on a switch or any anywhere else And
48:30
sell it to you that way with you know, like a
48:32
handful of games and it'll be like 30 bucks I
48:35
don't know what the price of this is, but I imagine it's not
48:37
gonna be much more than that and it's like, okay I
48:39
am okay with that as well as
48:42
long as there's some incentive for you to either do
48:45
it on switch online or in a bundle like the
48:48
Castlevania advanced collection. So yeah, we're not gonna get
48:50
those on nsl because you're gonna sell them to
48:52
us You're right. You should those games own you
48:54
deserve to have extra money for those. They are
48:56
that good So I'm like fully
48:58
on board with this style of doing collections as
49:00
well And of course, we've always had collections, but it
49:03
feels like we're getting very specific
49:05
with them these days What's like the
49:07
epics collection handheld is not something you
49:09
would have found on the ps1 forever.
49:11
No, right? No, no, no.
49:14
No, I feel like some
49:16
companies are now experimenting with nostalgia
49:19
And seeing other collections and seeing just
49:21
how obscure they can get with these things
49:24
before the well dries up are we
49:26
gonna see like a cyberflix
49:28
connection of like Titanic and rust
49:31
or not rust dust and all
49:33
those old FMV Point-and-click adventures
49:35
at some point. Yeah, let's do
49:37
that. But um, yeah, I
49:39
don't know how deep this
49:41
well goes But the
49:44
fact that companies are now gonna try this. Yeah,
49:46
why not? I mean Alright
49:48
last story here play dates catalog has sold
49:50
a hundred and fifty thousand games earning developers
49:52
more than 540 thousand
49:54
five hundred forty four thousand dollars. This
49:57
is from Chris scullion at VGC Playdate
50:00
manufacturer Panic has announced that the
50:02
handheld's built-in store, the
50:04
catalog, it's called Catalog, has sold more than
50:06
150,000 games. Catalog
50:09
arrived on Playdate in March 2023
50:11
and allowed developers to sell their
50:13
own games through the handheld itself. There are now
50:15
181 games on Catalog with an average
50:19
game price of $5.36. Panic says more than $544,000 has
50:21
been paid to the developers since
50:26
Catalog launched. Yeah,
50:29
okay, so this is the kind of thing
50:31
where they put out an infographic of this. They
50:33
are like chirping this, they're like, hey, we are,
50:35
we did this, this is a cool thing. And
50:38
I think that that's probably accurate that this is
50:40
like way more than they ever expected to do
50:42
with the Playdate. Because people might not remember when
50:44
the Playdate was announced, it was, we are going
50:46
to sell you this thing. And
50:49
every two weeks, you're going to get a game or
50:51
two downloaded onto it from the internet
50:53
that we've already finished as part of a season. And
50:55
then we might do a season two. It
50:58
was never going to have a store, that was never the
51:00
idea. It's like you could side load stuff. They're like, hey,
51:02
no, if you want, you can go get stuff off the
51:05
internet that people make for the Playdate and side load it
51:07
for free, or buy it on itch or something like that,
51:09
however they want to sell it. But you could side load
51:11
it yourself. And you could still do that, of course. But
51:14
they were like, oh, you know, at a certain point, there's a lot
51:16
of enough interest here, maybe we should just have our store and, and
51:18
try to see if we can get some developers on there. So that
51:21
$544,000 is like literally an
51:24
infinite amount more than what they were expecting to
51:26
do when they launched this thing. So I think
51:28
in that light, this is just nothing but a
51:31
success, right? Correct. I
51:33
think the fact that it's such a unique
51:36
niche thing, and it's
51:38
sold like this, they have to be, you know, clicking
51:41
their heels and jumping out of their seats.
51:43
This is amazing. The fact that developers alone
51:45
have pulled in 500k for their games, and
51:47
only 181 of them exist, that sort of math
51:51
is very, very impressive. Who? What
51:54
the gentleman's name eludes me. He put a
51:57
game just on this. The papers, please, guys.
51:59
Yeah. Papers, please guy. I'm I know I'm trying
52:01
to think of it too The
52:03
name of the game it Lucas Pope. Yes.
52:05
Yeah, that is that is the game. I'm
52:08
most interested in I have seen I've not
52:10
held one of these yet, but I've seen
52:13
One or two out in the wild. It looks kind
52:15
of cool. It looks very This
52:20
is my second one because I Lost
52:22
and broke my first one in my move
52:24
across the country and then they're like they
52:26
did another round like hey Where you guys
52:28
want one? I'm like, I broke my last one. Can
52:30
I get another one? So they then they sent this to me a few
52:33
months later and I'm like, oh, thank you so much I
52:35
also keep meaning to buy the Lucas Pope
52:37
game because I've heard nothing but good things
52:39
about it Yeah, it's you know, I I
52:41
have some friends that are like in the
52:44
scene for the play date, right? They like
52:46
work it with developers that make games
52:48
for this thing And it's like, you know, it does
52:50
seem like a small little passion that they're doing on
52:52
the side Lucas Pope didn't have to make a game
52:55
for this That's amazing that he did and it's apparently
52:57
like I said people seem to really like it So it's like
53:00
it's that kind of thing where people who make the interesting
53:02
fun games that we talk about at the end of the
53:04
year We're like for this game out of nowhere. It's game
53:06
of the year material They are making stuff
53:08
for something like this or they have in the past And
53:11
so the play that continues to be an interesting thing for
53:13
me Even if it's not ever gonna be the thing I'm
53:15
turning on every day It is like
53:18
the occasional fun distraction and
53:20
you could see some interesting new ideas from developers that have made
53:22
a ton of cool stuff in the past Chat
53:25
has set a straight Mars after midnight. There's
53:27
a new moon. That's it right there. Yeah.
53:29
Absolutely. Yes. Thank you chat. Appreciate you But
53:32
yeah, I you know I I would like to
53:34
you know, try it and hold it first before
53:36
I actually take the plunge if I never I
53:38
don't know if they Have more if they're just
53:40
open for sale now or how that works Because
53:44
it's like you said it's not gonna be something you pick up and play
53:47
every single day But it is something that when
53:49
a new game comes out for it, you'll get a couple of
53:51
hours of you know, unique Fun
53:54
experiences that you can only find on
53:56
this device. I'm sorry the amount of
53:58
people in chat saying that you need to crank it
54:00
on stream for everyone. Yeah, you got to crank it
54:02
on stream, Jason. What's the problem? I
54:05
don't have a... I'm not finishing that. Okay.
54:07
Yo! I don't... Hello, Dream! No respect.
54:15
Yeah, so
54:17
congratulations to the Playdate.
54:19
It is awesome that it's having this run. I'll
54:21
get in there eventually, I promise. And
54:24
Panic! should be very, very happy with what they've seen
54:26
so far, as far as sales
54:28
and money earned and everything like that. Very, very
54:30
cool. Kind of goes back to what we were
54:32
talking about in the very first segment with Kingdom
54:35
Come. Kind of very cool to see something come
54:37
out of sort of nowhere, try a brand new
54:39
unique thing, and have success
54:42
like this. It's
54:44
awesome. And in an
54:46
industry that recently has been
54:48
very, and rightfully so, filled
54:51
with negative, not negative, sort of depressing
54:53
sort of stories to see little
54:56
successes like this. It kind of reminds you
54:58
why we do this to begin with, right?
55:01
Absolutely. One of a couple of
55:03
couple of spotlights here and there are nice, amidst
55:05
all of the calamity and
55:07
whoa. Yes, yes. So some light amongst
55:09
the clouds for sure. It's also
55:13
nice to me to just see that like something small
55:15
and not trying to be part of the big
55:18
video game industry machine can
55:21
succeed. It's like, no, we're going to do our own thing
55:23
off to the side and it's not going to be, we're
55:25
not going to be in yet another place for you to
55:27
play your PC games. And it's not yet
55:30
another thing people are going to be porting games that already
55:32
exist to. It's like, no, no, if they want to make
55:34
a game specifically for this thing, we will provide them the
55:36
platform to do that. And
55:39
maybe they'll sell a handful of games enough to
55:41
make it worth their while. And it
55:43
seems like that's the way it's working out. And I
55:45
continue to be pretty impressed by what they did with
55:47
the play name. All
55:49
right. Let's get to the poll question. Actually, you
55:52
know what? We have a little bit of time.
55:54
If anyone wants to ask a question, let's do
55:56
a grub snacks, a special little grub snacks. Use
55:59
the ask the question. button here on giant
56:01
bomb.com/chat or if you're in Twitch just drop
56:03
your question there and chat I should be
56:05
able to see it but
56:07
we'll answer your questions real quick before we get to the
56:09
poll so if you want to get that going feel free
56:11
to drop that in there and I'll get things set up.
56:13
While we're waiting Jason what do you tell people
56:16
where they can find you on the internet what
56:18
you have going on all that good
56:20
stuff. So at Big Man Finale on
56:22
Twitter and other socials just did a
56:25
guest spot on the fun and games
56:27
podcast a podcast run by
56:29
Matt Storm who's like a video editor for Game
56:31
Informer and another person whose name I cannot remember it now
56:33
I'm so sorry other person but they have a
56:35
side gig where they have people come on and
56:37
they just talk themselves about a game
56:41
that they like and I mentioned cyberflix
56:43
because my episode went live today and
56:45
I talked about the 1996 point-and-click adventure
56:48
Titanic adventure out of time which
56:50
is amazing which is an amazing
56:53
retro like it's a very hard
56:56
game to explain
56:58
but it's so fun and eerie
57:00
and historically accurate like they went
57:03
in and built the ship like
57:05
from scratch some 3d some 2d you can even
57:07
if you're not playing the game you can just
57:09
tour it and like the people who
57:12
stop-motion FMV yes that's exactly what it is
57:15
and and like you can just tour the ship and the people
57:17
who are in the like
57:20
the characters in the game will narrate stuff
57:22
about the ship to you but the actual
57:24
the actual adventure is like you go back
57:26
and you're a disgraced British secret service agent
57:28
who was back in time to right his
57:30
wrong and you're like using clues and solving
57:33
puzzles to find these relevant items and then
57:35
once you do that like
57:38
it's just it's go listen to it over at fun and
57:40
games podcast I talked about it for 20 minutes and
57:43
it's it's if you get
57:45
can play it on good old games or more
57:47
appropriately steam because it is a steamboat go
57:50
check that out if you're
57:52
in the fill it I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch this
57:54
during the Philadelphia area for the next two weekends if
57:57
you go to st. Francis players org that is
57:59
the theater groups and we open the
58:01
music man tonight tonight seven o'clock tomorrow
58:04
seven o'clock Sunday two o'clock same schedule
58:06
next week tickets are available on that
58:08
website there you come see me sing
58:10
the high tenor in the barbershop quartet
58:12
got that high voice going you go
58:15
there and you're gonna fall for Jason
58:17
do not
58:20
yell giant bomb in a crowded theater everybody
58:22
please don't know my behalf don't do that
58:24
oh god don't do that just know because
58:26
I'll laugh and a couple other guys away
58:28
but everyone else be like what but
58:32
if you do show up after the show the cast
58:34
does come out to greet the audience if you're if
58:36
you you can say giant bomb sent you and I
58:38
will shake your hand and give you a high-five and
58:40
measure perfectly okay but yeah giant Bob said you will
58:42
be awesome but if you can't do that I completely
58:44
understand but you can also find me writing news on
58:46
GameSpot and MMORPG a couple of
58:48
things going on there and yeah
58:50
that's that's what I'm doing all
58:53
right we got some of these grub snack
58:55
questions get these get these real quick let's
58:58
see a DMC D23 asks what's your favorite
59:00
color Jason green my
59:02
favorite color continues and will forever be gray
59:04
no matter how much everyone tries to shame
59:06
me for that he's just saying
59:09
that because it's slowly taking over his head that's
59:11
right exactly I'm trying to embrace it before before
59:13
that comes for me let's
59:15
see scrub my grub how many more generations does
59:17
physical media have left just saw just saw target
59:20
is doing away with it next I mean
59:22
it's good depend on the specific medium but
59:26
I bet the next Xbox
59:29
and PlayStation console generations launch
59:31
without this drives built in they
59:34
will sell them separately still they will not be
59:36
built in from like that the
59:38
main model like will not have a district built in what
59:40
do you think Jason I
59:42
agree but I think this drives
59:44
are slowly going away and it's
59:48
over it's what they wanted in 2013 they were a
59:50
little Microsoft was a little early but um it's
59:53
yeah it's we're it's cloud streaming
59:55
it's direct downloads as much
59:57
as I love physical media it's just a thing of the past
1:00:00
So unless they're gonna start
1:00:02
putting games on USB or
1:00:06
cartridges of that sort, I think this drives or a
1:00:08
thing in the past as much as I hate to
1:00:10
say it. Let's see. Let's
1:00:12
see. Let's go with
1:00:16
One-winged zero on Twitch says any plans to
1:00:18
play more PS1 games? Yeah, all the time.
1:00:21
I always want to be playing more PS1
1:00:23
games against that generation. We
1:00:25
definitely got some momentum going about wanting to
1:00:27
do a license to thrill here pretty soon
1:00:29
where we'll play some more license games. PS1
1:00:31
is rife with that. We'll
1:00:34
get some more PS1 games up on the site
1:00:36
pretty soon for sure. When are you gonna play
1:00:38
Croc Legend of the Gabos? I
1:00:40
would love to play Croc Legend of
1:00:42
the Gabos. Curse flat,
1:00:45
baby. Sandwich Jones
1:00:47
is the skate reboot safe. He's dropping games like
1:00:49
flies. I don't know. I haven't checked recently. I
1:00:52
think so. I'll look into it, see what
1:00:54
I can find out and let you know. And
1:00:57
then Croc Review asks, you all played Deep
1:00:59
Rock Survivor at all. I'm enjoying it a
1:01:01
lot on my Steam Deck. I'm
1:01:03
not. I was gonna play that and
1:01:05
that Geometry Wars survival game. That's
1:01:08
like Vampire Survivors. Both came around the same time and
1:01:10
I think they kind of canceled each other out in
1:01:12
my brain. I didn't play either one, but
1:01:14
I will get around to checking that out. I
1:01:17
also never really spent that much time with like Shoot Deep
1:01:19
Rock Survivor or Deep Rock Galactic. And
1:01:21
I've been meaning to do that. Yeah,
1:01:25
and Always Be Clothing wants to know, do I
1:01:27
have any comments on the Mount Rushmore of furries
1:01:29
that by one Jeff Grubb's
1:01:31
game match last night? I
1:01:33
will have to come in
1:01:35
and be pretty stern with what they did while
1:01:37
I was busy last night and do my own
1:01:39
show. So we'll get in there, fix things.
1:01:42
Daddy's home now, everybody. You guys
1:01:44
better button up. Alright,
1:01:47
let's see here. Poll question. Let's get to
1:01:49
it. That's not a poll question.
1:01:51
What is that? That's just, that's my personal files there.
1:01:54
Of Atta Boys. Let me go here instead.
1:01:58
Have You ever played a Muffin? The game Yes
1:02:00
or no. Fifty Eight, Fifty six percent said
1:02:03
yes Of forty four percent said no. As
1:02:05
usually am I gay, That's that's Oh, quite
1:02:07
a bit of people at Six, six percent
1:02:09
like outplayed a mafia game before arm and
1:02:11
I suppose that is why they're making a
1:02:13
new one, right? Who is you get over
1:02:16
that threshold were like two and two point
1:02:18
Seven thousand people asked by hey are you
1:02:20
are with a cigar or up or at
1:02:22
your fifty six percent like yeah I play
1:02:24
when it was before. Once you reach that
1:02:27
threshold, I bet it's like guy is kept
1:02:29
a name recognition. We should just go back to
1:02:31
that, right? Yeah. I think I
1:02:33
wonder how many if you were to just extrapolate that
1:02:35
data little more? How many of those if you said
1:02:37
which wanted to play. It would
1:02:39
be because I feel like. Must. Stop.
1:02:42
The when then. Add
1:02:45
a boy has come for you are consistent.
1:02:47
Goal of this I feel I get wisdom.
1:02:49
What makes him? It's a silly mafia to.
1:02:51
Was. The most popular of the three eyed that's
1:02:54
the only one likely Srs. Oh wait, a
1:02:56
little biased on I will say playing mafia
1:02:58
to was gonna go into a family reunion
1:03:00
in a sense and so there was a
1:03:02
copy. So what's the matter you I think
1:03:04
get your of and one point of reposted
1:03:06
a table. i'm not the Mafia promised. Ah
1:03:08
but. I. Guess I'm hoping
1:03:10
I'm hoping to do. and I
1:03:12
hope they go back to the
1:03:15
old school. Like. I yesterday
1:03:17
we were talking about it. I kept saying the Godfather
1:03:19
the Games as I think the Godfather the game is
1:03:21
the best mafia game. I. Loved that game.
1:03:23
I like Mafia to but I like
1:03:25
Godfather better. At ago I thought the
1:03:27
open world was better. some hoping if
1:03:29
they do go back to mafia it's
1:03:31
more like a classic. Old. School
1:03:34
Mafia gangster sort of film. but
1:03:36
in the game radials Mafia Three
1:03:38
as much as spawners looked, I'm
1:03:40
in Italy. I did not play
1:03:43
it and I'm. I.
1:03:45
Feel it? Maybe I should. And cases no one is
1:03:47
common. Yes, I I I think I
1:03:49
never came off your three chance either. am I give
1:03:51
that when a shot eyes? Although that's in the same
1:03:53
zone as something like a Mad Max with me and
1:03:56
I never played that like Mad Max down. I really
1:03:58
want to go back to. Ah, but. Own apartment
1:04:00
for a living? Yeah exactly. Am I bet that
1:04:02
games way better than I ever even thought it
1:04:04
was a serious is coming out something something you
1:04:07
should stream moment a good idea. good idea. Synergy
1:04:09
right there are well has are One last question
1:04:11
says you're Jason If we're in the area where
1:04:13
can we check out the Music Man show and
1:04:15
are we allowed to tailgate and we said the
1:04:18
go and say it again where people can find
1:04:20
that are St. Francis players.org and the ticket link
1:04:22
is on that website their tailgating or can't tell
1:04:24
you what to do and not do but I
1:04:26
will they figure out how to do it anyway.
1:04:29
Oh. Well okay, It
1:04:31
is a parking lot of a church so
1:04:33
you may get some looks your that we
1:04:35
do with it. We use the the gym
1:04:38
of an Element Catholic Elementary school at our
1:04:40
figure so I'm. Get. Out that the
1:04:42
priest comes out just in the same it'll be
1:04:44
fine. Don't do it. Don't do it to everyone's
1:04:46
watching from see friends. Right now I am not
1:04:48
advocating the debate. Know the for sure absolutely isn't.
1:04:52
The but. Not a seperate Sea Breezes plays
1:04:54
that always ring of honor. I. A new
1:04:56
for question did you play Kingdom Come Deliverance?
1:04:58
Yes or no. Will get to that on
1:05:01
Monday on game as moorings for I think
1:05:03
there's any reason would be able to a
1:05:05
show on Monday. Now we should back on
1:05:07
Monday with more here on Giant Bomb. Speaking
1:05:09
of giant bomb later today you pf not
1:05:11
much later after about an hour when you
1:05:13
get back into content morning. ominous even get
1:05:15
it set up in the time that we
1:05:17
have a for a more than four players.
1:05:20
A If we can't muscle just to play
1:05:22
the game with four players will see who
1:05:24
complaints. Ah but if we can get everybody.
1:05:26
And their we will I think. The.
1:05:28
Way it works as he of them a
1:05:30
server set up. Some might take my Power
1:05:32
World server that I think I think I
1:05:34
still have for another month or so I
1:05:36
convert that over to a content morning server
1:05:38
will cease. Ah though the yeah able to
1:05:40
take a little set up but at it
1:05:42
an hour after that we are going to
1:05:44
do our first of what should be the
1:05:46
regular cadence of of Power Bomb cast going
1:05:48
forward. Look after that that I'll be in
1:05:50
the A B C R slight instead this
1:05:52
week. So low that I am very excited
1:05:54
about it. I thank you so much you're
1:05:57
spinning today! Talking with me about video. Games. I
1:05:59
really appreciate it. I'm. Always happy
1:06:01
to be here Jeff whenever you know you need
1:06:03
me to say the word nine here but we
1:06:05
will make it happens or government asks. Will grub
1:06:07
do a watch party of rub rebel Moon part
1:06:09
to. I might. Man
1:06:12
at first I was ah so that it's
1:06:14
one of the worst things I've ever seen
1:06:16
that my kind of obsessed with how bad
1:06:18
it as so. Maybe we'll see Douglas or
1:06:20
you're the best audience and gaming and so
1:06:22
next time have a good one, take care
1:06:24
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