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through the world of gaming on Game S Mornings Live

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with me, Jeff Grubb. Today,

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Kingdom Come is back and Donkey Kong isn't going

1:56

to get off his lazy ass until later this

1:58

year. First, please join

2:01

me in welcoming today's co-host of gay

2:03

mess mornings. It's Jason Finelli everybody Jason.

2:05

How are you doing? I

2:07

am fantastic. There are a lot of questions in chat and

2:10

I will answer them Mario from

2:12

any open golf. I Am

2:15

this is so my see it like my

2:17

local community theater group our show opens tonight

2:20

This is my costume for the barbershop quartet.

2:22

I figured we're here you invited me I

2:25

have to make sure it fit feels well

2:27

anyway So that's why I'm dressed like NES

2:29

open tournament edition. Oh Gosh,

2:32

I know it's a dry stay told you I was

2:34

gonna break your upper day. I'm gonna do it with

2:36

red white and blue Lexi says

2:38

that there's no questions. Just confusion. I don't

2:41

get that. This is simply how Americans dress

2:43

This is what we this is how we

2:45

go out. This is our go out attire.

2:47

Hey speaking Lexi. Congratulations on finishing college.

2:50

Well done Go

2:54

back it's all Save

2:57

yourself Absolutely

2:59

now congratulations But yeah, okay. So we this is

3:01

the costume Are you like you're gonna wear it

3:03

all day or is it just for us and

3:05

you're gonna take it off again and then get

3:07

Back in it that one because

3:09

I actually so we're doing the music man. Not

3:12

sure if you're familiar with that particular musical If

3:15

you remember the family guy episode where you joined the

3:17

Patriots and he did that whole celebration the song shapoopie

3:19

That's from the music man. It's probably okay. Really think

3:21

it's not a lot So in

3:23

the first I'm part of like the school board

3:25

these four guys who hate each other and through

3:27

the power of music We learn to love each

3:29

other and sing barbershop at the same time. So

3:31

this is actually the act to set The

3:36

vest is right there if you could see it so it might be

3:38

off-camera so I just wear like

3:40

a normal black suit with a different vest and we Slowly

3:43

evolve into a barbershop quartet. That's

3:45

fantastic. That's something a good time. Um,

3:47

oh fun Yeah, good

3:50

luck. I'm sorry break a leg. Absolutely Do

3:52

you know why that saying exists? I

3:54

my understand something to do with Mcbeth Well,

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no, Mcbeth is cursed. It's if you do This

4:00

curse, okay. There's no Brain

4:03

they say break a leg at auditions because if it goes

4:05

well, you'll be in the cast Wow

4:09

That's crazy I just assumed it was like

4:12

reverse psychology stuff where it's like, you know,

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you instead of saying good luck You wish

4:16

something bad on someone so if you know

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that happened. Yeah, okay. That is nuts. All

4:21

right. Wow it you blew my mind How

4:25

you doing otherwise Doing great

4:27

doing great just having been you know busy with

4:30

writing stuff busy with this. It's a Lexi

4:33

says I'm now jinx cuz I said Macbeth. Oh, I said it

4:35

again No, yeah, things

4:37

are things are great. I'm getting excited for the

4:40

summer season. The game mess is approaching it approaching

4:42

sharp Quickly things are the

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schedule is filling up for playdays very excited about

4:47

that And yeah,

4:49

got some got some stuff to talk about here on a

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Friday. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, my

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I got a handful of appointments scheduled I am

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gonna go into my email later today and get

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ton of time Cuz we're busy like on Sunday

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horns and all that stuff It's gonna be a good time

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though summer came fast. It's gonna be great Can't

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wait. Can't wait. Yeah, you've got this. We

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appreciate you Jason. I appreciate that. All

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6:30

mess with Kingdom Come Deliverance 2

6:32

will be twice as big and more diverse.

6:35

I did not put the E there at

6:37

the end of diverse. So I almost said

6:39

divers. It has more divers in this one.

6:41

That's just from Ethan Gotch over in Kotaku.

6:44

War Horse Studios announced Kingdom Come Deliverance

6:46

2, the sequel to an ambitious and

6:48

intriguing 2018 medieval RPG

6:50

that had plenty of technical flaws

6:52

and also became a lightning rod

6:54

for controversy over its directors comments

6:56

about race and historical accuracy. The

6:59

development team is promising the next game,

7:01

which will release in 2024 will be

7:03

much bigger and feature a wide range

7:05

of ethnicities this time around. It's

7:07

coming to PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X and

7:10

S PC in the name of whether

7:12

that's through Steam or Epic or anything like that. Kingdom

7:14

Come Deliverance 2 will once again put players

7:16

in the boots of Henry of Scallets as

7:18

his quest for revenge. He's gonna have a

7:20

sorting of slice

7:24

watermelons in any way he wants. Over

7:26

the killing of his family shows chaos

7:28

in 15th century Bohemia in Central Europe.

7:31

A new trailer shows the game's larger

7:33

scope and grim realism in action. Kingdom

7:38

Come Deliverance did pretty well. I'm not surprised that

7:40

they're going back to it. I'm also not surprised

7:42

that they're like, it's gonna be more diverse this time.

7:45

We just don't even want to deal with that controversy. Although I'm

7:47

sure they would have sold just fine

7:49

whether they, you know, harbored that controversy

7:51

or not. But

7:53

yes, that's nice to hear. Are you someone

7:55

who is excited about a Kingdom Come Deliverance

7:58

2? This game... has

8:00

always been one of those games on my backlog

8:02

where I'm like, you know what? I really should

8:04

start that and then 55 other

8:06

games come out and I'm better even further.

8:09

But it's always been one that's put on

8:11

like my fringe. Like I do want to

8:13

try this. It seems like an interesting setting.

8:16

It's first person to which you don't really

8:18

get from a medieval game like this. So

8:20

it's one I do want to check it

8:22

out. Will this sequel be the thing to

8:25

make that happen? I don't know if time allows

8:27

maybe. But I also

8:29

like that a I don't want

8:31

to say a smaller game. But like if we're

8:33

doing the double AAA thing when this game first

8:35

came out, it was certainly a double

8:37

a sort of like, yes, not

8:40

not, you know, triple a super like highest

8:42

budget sort of game. So the fact that

8:44

it's sold enough and succeeded enough to get

8:46

a sequel, especially in the current climate where

8:49

you don't know if your game's ever going

8:51

to be successful. I'm happy with that. I'm

8:53

glad that they're able to do this. They were able to

8:55

make it happen. And soon coming out this year 2024. I

8:57

felt for sure. When

9:00

this was first teased, they'd be saying 2025. But

9:02

no, it sounds like they're going to make the

9:04

end of the year. Sounds like yeah, sounds like

9:07

they're planning to get out this year. And you're

9:09

right, like it's nice to see someone be able

9:11

to like make an idea that feels way ambitious,

9:13

like way too ambitious in a lot of ways,

9:15

and be like mostly deliver on it to a

9:17

point where it can succeed, and then have a

9:19

chance to go out and try it again, which

9:21

is exactly what they say they're going to do

9:23

here. What we are making now is what

9:25

Kingdom Come Deliverance was supposed to be in

9:27

the beginning. But we we were not able

9:29

to do it because we didn't have enough

9:31

resources and experience. And that's

9:33

from creative director Daniel Vavra. Yeah,

9:37

it's in that's like, okay, that's I know exactly that

9:39

feeling, where it's like you try something, you figure out

9:41

all the things that you did wrong the first time,

9:43

you're like, okay, we're gonna go and do it again.

9:45

And this time bigger and better and fix a lot

9:47

of the problems we had the first time around. That's

9:49

one way that we get a lot of these indie

9:51

sequels, where it's like, yeah, we want to do things

9:53

right this time. Sometimes you get it's like, yeah, we kind of

9:55

nailed it. So we're going to change things up and make a

9:57

3d game as a sequel to our 2d game. I like that

10:00

as well. But I appreciate when a

10:02

studio has a chance to do something like this.

10:04

I also do appreciate for real that they're like,

10:06

there will be more diversity because the idea that

10:10

like the distance between Bohemia, like

10:12

where that's located, and the

10:14

continent of Africa is like less than

10:16

from like me to

10:18

like Tennessee. Like it's

10:21

not far. It's not far. Just just like

10:23

the law of large numbers is going to

10:25

dictate there would have been some people of

10:27

color walking around here and there. And that

10:30

part of the world at all times throughout

10:32

the history of the world. So whenever people

10:34

try to like, do that

10:36

whole like, there were there were no people of

10:38

color in that part of the world at that

10:40

time. It's like, that's just a historical. So you're

10:42

trying to say historical accuracy. And then you say

10:44

something like that. It's like, I just kind of

10:46

sound like casual racism to me. So

10:49

now that they're coming out and stating that

10:51

that will be different this time. And so

10:53

okay, well, I'll give them a chance. I

10:55

did play that kingdom come deliverance a little

10:57

bit originally when it came out. And

11:00

I got those vibes. Now, of course, it could have

11:02

been colored by the controversy at the time. But I

11:04

got the vibes. This was a game kind of made

11:06

by dude bros. And it had like a broey vibe

11:08

about its story where it's, you know,

11:10

it's like four dudes that that kind of

11:12

pollen around throughout the beginning of the game.

11:14

And you go and you deal with one

11:16

character. And I just remember being so annoyed

11:19

that's like, the character that

11:21

you deal with has a wife and his wife's

11:23

name is just that character's wife and she's like,

11:25

she didn't have a name. And it's like, these

11:27

things are sticking out to me because of the

11:29

controversy. But it's also just kind of like make

11:31

some improvements there do a little bit better. And

11:33

I hope that they actually do this time. So

11:35

we'll see. Yeah, wow. I

11:37

wonder if I wonder if

11:39

it's more of a just get a synopsis on YouTube

11:41

sort of thing now. I'm hoping that,

11:44

you know, you talked about sequels and the

11:46

second game being with the first game should have been

11:48

a very famous example that I think is Assassin's Creed.

11:50

So that can follow that trajectory and

11:52

become like what it was

11:54

to like a more improved, more

11:56

streamlined version of the initial vision.

11:58

Now with, you know, hopefully

12:00

no controversy. Just keep your feet out of your mouth

12:03

and say what you did. I

12:05

think I am cautiously optimistic about

12:07

this one. You know,

12:10

the dude bro thing, if that continues, that's

12:12

an issue, just give everybody a name. It's

12:14

not that hard. If I tried to say

12:16

that my wife was just Jason's wife, she'd

12:18

slap me and rightfully so. I

12:21

mean, just give people names, it's not that hard.

12:23

But yeah, I'm hoping that this works out for

12:25

them. I always like when a game, you know,

12:27

can build itself into a strong IP with regular

12:30

releases. And if the first one sets the table

12:32

and the second one is able to eat, let's

12:34

do it. Yep, exactly. And it's,

12:37

I know there's, it seems like there's a lot of people

12:39

working on this game that really care about it. I hope

12:41

they're able to deliver something that is interesting and fun. And

12:43

at the very least, I

12:45

think it continues to be a sign that

12:47

these games are possible by studios of all

12:49

different shapes and sizes. And you can make

12:51

an open world game that like, you know,

12:53

this is a very popular game on Nexus

12:56

Mods. It's got a ton of mods. It's

12:58

like, oh, you know, that used to be

13:00

just the realm of a game like Skyrim.

13:02

And indie games wouldn't really get that

13:04

full treatment, but this did. And

13:06

so, okay, that at the very least is

13:08

promising in the way that as

13:11

we go forward and these a game like Fallout

13:13

5 seems so impossibly

13:15

far away. We're gonna

13:17

be in a world where it's much more

13:19

likely that studios inspired by those games are

13:21

gonna be able to get them out in

13:24

slightly smaller variations here more and more frequently.

13:26

And that's exciting to me as someone who's

13:28

like, I like open world first person RPGs

13:30

of all, no matter the setting.

13:33

And if that's something that these two teams feel like

13:35

comfortable making, that's exciting. Yeah,

13:38

one of the most

13:40

more recent games that I have

13:42

100% completed, like I was driven

13:44

to 100% complete was Amalur. Let's

13:47

talk about controversy with an open world game.

13:49

You know, let's talk about that guy. But

13:51

I loved that world. I loved the way

13:54

it played. I loved the fiction within it.

13:56

So if deliverance too, can

14:00

sort of emulate that sort of feeling in

14:02

me. Now that was third person. I don't know if

14:04

first person will really make a difference in that

14:06

regard, but I guess there's more of a realistic bent

14:09

to this with it being first person. I'm

14:11

hope, yeah, but if this could

14:14

engender in me what

14:16

Amalur did back in 2012, I couldn't stop

14:18

playing that, man. I went through 75, 80

14:20

hours in like a week and a half. I thought it was awesome. So

14:24

yeah, I mean, if the potential is there and I give

14:26

it a shot and I really like it, then that'll be

14:28

awesome. But I feel like

14:30

the main issue is the

14:32

one that they set back in the first

14:34

game. You gotta go us some more of

14:36

the world, show us that diversity, let us

14:38

talk to people and please God, if you're

14:40

gonna have more diversity, make... how

14:43

do I say this with tact? I think what people

14:45

know what I mean. Just be respectful. Yeah. You know

14:47

what I'm saying? Like if you add other... Just consider

14:49

it. Yes, just consider it.

14:52

Don't just don't be dumb about it, please. Yes.

14:54

It's a hard thing to ask at this day

14:56

and age. Don't be dumb, but just don't be

14:58

dumb. Yeah, and it's the kind of thing where

15:00

that is where, you know, consultants, the big scary

15:02

word, they come in and they can provide perspectives

15:05

that you may not have. But

15:07

even if it just shows a little consideration from a

15:09

small team that can't afford consultants, I don't know. They

15:11

probably can, but even it's like something

15:13

that just shows like you spend a little time thinking

15:16

about these characters and they're not just background

15:19

that goes a long way. Last

15:21

thing, this is, you know,

15:23

it's a historically set RPG. I

15:26

love fantasy games, I love sci-fi games. I

15:29

think we forget, like, we could just set games

15:31

in the real world in the past or present,

15:33

whatever, and that they could also just be an

15:35

RPG like Skyrim. This game

15:37

is also proving that that is

15:40

the case in a way that's bigger than like,

15:42

you know, recent examples like Pentiment, a great game

15:44

that I love, historical RPG. It was

15:46

like, yeah, but we're gonna scale that down so we can

15:48

make that make sense. And this is like, no, we're gonna

15:51

try to look as every bit like a Skyrim

15:53

as possible and so, okay, That

15:55

also gets me excited. I Hope more

15:57

studios look to historical settings. Their

16:00

games going forward. All.

16:02

right? Moving along here: Microsoft has more

16:04

games on Playstation store top twenty five

16:06

than Sony. This is from Jonas Mackey

16:08

at Game Raptor. Microsoft Gaming program got

16:11

a lot bag the lot bigger last

16:13

fall when they but by Activision Blizzard

16:15

and in combination with the fact that

16:17

they now have released a handful of

16:19

older titles and Summit Hi Fi, Rush

16:21

grounded and shortly see if these two

16:24

competing formats something we'd ever seen before

16:26

his happened on have happened Thursday on

16:28

Playstation. Tweet town journalists Eric strictly noticed

16:30

that there are now more Microsoft. Games

16:32

in the top twenty five of the most

16:34

so titles the other Playstation store than Sony

16:36

has a clear sign of how big Microsoft

16:39

actually as in the gaming world today, but

16:41

also proof how important Sony is to them.

16:43

And I think that lessons right there's kind

16:45

of it like us when we look at

16:47

this. do you feel like one side of

16:49

this console war is benefiting more from this

16:51

many other? It's I who's winning of fact

16:54

that Sony is now getting money from his

16:56

games are on their platform or Microsoft now

16:58

getting money from selling these games on another

17:00

platform Seems like everybody's winning to me. I

17:02

don't know. what do you think? I agree one

17:04

thousand per cent. This is not as

17:06

surprising as it should be. At first

17:08

glance I like in this to like

17:10

a sports radio headline where they just

17:12

try to like. For. Some us

17:15

into creating a story that while people

17:17

might be cutting innings dabbled stress while

17:19

people up, some when in reality both sides

17:21

are winning. Like you said, Microsoft has games

17:23

are ranked you another platform so when

17:25

he's getting the money from those purchases and

17:27

honestly it makes sense because they're all

17:29

still new. right? That was all. We're

17:32

not even a year out from the first

17:34

edition of Microsoft, the Playstation. Of course they're

17:36

going to be up in the top of

17:38

the twenty five because I'm in, I'm a

17:40

foreigner all out as well. Like followed by

17:42

a man was follow games ranking on place

17:44

they says well splash we're all working together

17:46

It happened to this point Yes exactly Yeah

17:48

so so it makes perfect sense for this

17:50

if if if you think it through logically

17:52

and try to not have that you know

17:54

jump reaction if you're and x box and

17:56

of like ah ha sooner we got you

17:58

are if you're Saudi Sand. Like no, this

18:00

can't happen. It, It

18:03

just makes perfect logical sense. Now there

18:05

is a way that Sony can alleviate

18:07

this and it's very simple. Release games

18:09

that young priest of games out at

18:12

head. Unseat these from your top twenty

18:14

five lists and you won't have a

18:16

problem. Desserts That that blows Deron right

18:19

now isn't helping either. The Playstation fan

18:21

base one something to play, and if

18:23

Microsoft is the one that's going to

18:26

provided to them, where else can they

18:28

go right? Exactly how. I. It

18:30

all makes perfect sense to me. I hope

18:32

everybody is joining these games that in get

18:35

to play before and will enjoy. Sea of

18:37

Thieves now become number A on the list

18:39

Them sore arm and. You. Know

18:41

Sony they want to do this. start

18:44

making more. Games were stored. You know

18:46

buying studio's like Microsoft it because they

18:48

have. Be honest One, two three four

18:50

of them are from acquisitions identify. I

18:53

get onto my nicely. all of them

18:55

are because it says as Call of

18:57

Duty Fall Of For Followed Seventy Six

18:59

Grounded Make Minecraft Overwatch to Sea of

19:02

Thieves. I mean this is rare but

19:04

I was acquisition. you know, twenty five

19:06

years at how vital. Still an acquisition.

19:08

Yeah I yeah miles it. I mean

19:11

the but. What? That also

19:13

doesn't matter like that in the day, but

19:15

these are Microsoft Public Games now I am. That's

19:17

that's just how it works. arm and a

19:19

sort of those the seven games on the

19:21

list Sony has five. He writes that you're so

19:23

we could start releasing games against some point

19:25

and that that will deal with this. but it's

19:27

like in the meantime I just. I

19:30

that they struggle to see how that don't get a guy

19:32

get when people like look at the X box console the

19:34

like well this has been on the reason that get x

19:36

box council and you're right. It's. Over what

19:38

else do I probably will say they're not gonna

19:40

stop making those consoles but that is not the

19:42

thrust anymore and I mean we could sit over

19:45

and over and over again that the not that's

19:47

not the number, they're looking at the number of

19:49

council so that's not the future that they are

19:51

envisioning a world where everyone has an X box

19:53

and so they are just Raikkonen money from people

19:55

buying stuff on x box as much as can

19:58

be won by accident than like potential place. The

20:00

play These games. Playstation is going to be

20:02

another and that's just how it's going to

20:04

be. So if you keep looking up through

20:06

that prism of while this means people going

20:08

to bite your X boxes Yeah, If

20:11

you put that to the side of the

20:13

way, Microsoft obviously has. They.

20:15

Okay now what is the shortcoming? Hear what? What is

20:17

the problem? What is the negative? And it's like very

20:19

hard to even paint one of those I if he

20:21

even if you try really hard. Jason Rae. No.

20:24

Not at all that be there is as

20:26

as someone as do they damn just put

20:28

in the chat every street as an X

20:30

Box. Now if you have to be whether

20:32

sometimes that scream will have a Playstation attached

20:34

to it but you'll be playing X box

20:36

games on it's on. The more that they

20:38

sort of I was a completely distance themselves

20:40

because they're not, they're still going to make

20:42

those not source for their for the X

20:44

box faithful people. just like that ecosystem more.

20:46

There will always be a market for that.

20:48

But the more that they make that a

20:50

compliment rather than the full focus of their

20:52

gaming strategies, the more. It's just gonna pay dividends

20:55

not only for them, but for the council's that

20:57

are hosting these games to. It's a win win.

20:59

There's really no other way to look at it

21:01

unless you're blinded by blue or green loyalty. It's

21:03

a win win everywhere. Yeah. I'm

21:06

I think that size of for it for

21:08

so I okay here's the other thing I'm

21:10

thinking then our competition. You think that this

21:12

increases the sense of competition that place is.

21:15

Now we're like oh man we gotta put

21:17

up more games because Microsoft of selling more

21:19

stuff than we are on our own platform.

21:21

Or do you think this like lessons the

21:23

need to but they've Now we are getting

21:26

money from these games. We can sit back

21:28

and sort of just put out our game

21:30

so when they're ready or how do you

21:32

feel about like the state of competition between

21:35

Microsoft and Sony. I. Think both

21:37

of those things supply one is what the going

21:39

to say. They're going to say. Old Microsoft

21:41

Components under armour. We must protect this house. They're

21:43

going to start delivered. You know, developing more

21:45

games and releasing or games but behind closed doors

21:48

in the boardroom in the see sweet agree be

21:50

like that. Yeah, we're getting money from it.

21:52

The matter what we do, we're get money So

21:54

we're going to let this ride. They can have

21:56

their phones and hey, maybe the Sony people

21:58

enjoy Microsoft games too. want to say that

22:01

out loud. Maybe they're having fun. They're just,

22:03

it's, I don't think, um, I

22:06

don't think the impetus on competition is as

22:09

prevalent in the C-suites as it is on

22:12

social media. I'll put it that way. Right.

22:14

And I think that, um, the

22:17

competition doesn't, it really

22:19

hasn't come from, uh, oh,

22:21

Xbox versus PlayStation for quite some time, even though

22:23

I think that's the way the company still both

22:25

set it up at the beginning of this generation.

22:27

Even then, they

22:29

knew that the real competition was always coming

22:32

from people's time being divided among a million

22:34

other hobbies they could be spending their time

22:36

with or just, you know, scrolling on their

22:38

phone. You know, every, every minute someone scrolls

22:41

on tech talk is just like, they probably

22:43

see a percentage point less of like the

22:45

likelihood that they're spending money on video

22:47

games on a console. And so the

22:50

competition to get people's attention has actually never

22:52

been like greater. It's never been more of

22:54

a problem for these companies. And so they've

22:56

always, that's why they're spending so much money

22:58

on these games and taking so much time

23:00

because they have to do so much to

23:02

make them stand out. And even

23:04

if Xbox evaporated from the face of the

23:07

planet with everything that, that, that, that now

23:09

entails PlayStation would still have to be doing

23:11

a ton of stuff to get people's attention

23:13

and get excited to go buy a console

23:15

to play these games. So it's

23:18

like, yeah, I'm not worried about competition overall.

23:20

Yeah. And if you wanted to even make

23:23

that, like zoom in that conversation

23:25

on strictly the gaming industry, they may

23:27

feel that like a fortnight or

23:29

a Roblox or one of those big live

23:31

service games that will never die is competition,

23:34

even though it's on their own console. Because

23:36

if you're going to try and release a first

23:38

party live service game, like Sony was right. Well,

23:40

like they canceled a bunch of them, they have to

23:43

beat them in order to get the players in their

23:45

game. So it's,

23:47

it's almost like it's coming from all

23:49

sides. As far as the attention grabbing

23:51

competition is concerned, they don't have time

23:53

for the Xbox PlayStation, Nintendo console war

23:55

anymore because it's increasingly

23:57

irrelevant, even more than it already was. Yeah,

24:00

and it's I think it was beneficial for them in the

24:02

beginning of the generation because that makes it easy to tell

24:05

a story Like hey, you

24:07

have to have this things. We're gonna have these games and the

24:09

other guys don't But

24:11

once that sort of fades to the background a little

24:13

bit The competition remains

24:15

and I think they have a little bit harder

24:17

time explaining Like what

24:19

their place in the market when they don't have a

24:21

direct competitor to like compare themselves to but I know

24:23

that's right I'm impossible task or anything like that and

24:26

you know and to be fair they are still there

24:28

They are still competing in a lot of ways All

24:31

right. Uh, you know what? We're gonna take a

24:33

quick break when we get back We got a

24:35

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24:37

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25:21

this other scene because I have I like have our

25:23

names on here now So it looks weird if I

25:26

have the overlay with our names and the headline on

25:28

the screen for the intro It'd be like right in

25:30

the middle of it So i'm like, okay I'll turn

25:32

that on with the two up screen that I have

25:34

and I never remember to switch over to that scene

25:36

But get in the habit of that that's gonna start

25:38

monday. Everybody we're gonna be we're gonna do better I

25:40

promise remind him in the chat remind me Yes,

25:43

switch on the overlay Uh,

25:46

all right next headline here starfield will

25:48

get some really good updates soon says

25:50

tod howard This is from grace bin fell

25:53

at game spot In

25:55

a recent interview. Todd howard said that new

25:57

really good updates for starfield will be announced

26:00

soon. He shared no other details on what

26:02

these updates could be. In conversation with IGN,

26:04

Howard discussed with Bethesda is working on currently.

26:07

He said that the primary development focus is

26:09

currently on Elder Scrolls 6, though updates

26:12

for Fallout 76 continue. He hedged on

26:14

saying any specific details about Fallout 5,

26:16

saying I'm going to avoid putting dates

26:18

on anything, which we talked about yesterday.

26:21

Finally, he said that we're doing a lot

26:23

of Starfield work as well, so we have

26:26

some really good updates that are going to

26:28

get announced soon for that game. Yeah, I

26:31

mean it doesn't feel like Starfield

26:34

reached a threshold

26:37

where if in

26:39

five years they announced they're making a new one, people will

26:41

be excited. If they announced they were making a TV show

26:43

in five years, people would be like, oh, I'm very interested

26:45

in that because I care about the lore. Do you think

26:48

it got to that point? I'm like, I think it's like

26:50

right there, but I don't know if it got over that

26:52

hump. What do you think? Unfortunately, the

26:54

most interesting thing I've seen about the lore is

26:56

after you beat it for the first time. You

26:58

have to finish that game to get to the

27:00

very interesting stuff. So the big

27:02

problem was from beginning to that point was

27:05

not as interesting as they

27:07

needed it to be. So what

27:09

kind of these really good updates better

27:12

be for that onboarding? If you're going to

27:14

consider the entire first run of this game

27:16

from a lore perspective onboarding, you

27:18

need to make that first part

27:21

more interesting. You need to fill these

27:23

planets with more things. You need to

27:25

give the players more things to do.

27:27

I loved the concept of Starfield and

27:29

I loved a lot of what they

27:31

did here, but yes, it is not.

27:33

It didn't quite get

27:35

where it wanted to be and it's still

27:37

not there. I don't mean

27:39

to laugh, but the fact that he says

27:42

that really good updates are coming through. The

27:44

chat just went where were they? What have

27:46

you been doing? They wanted to get the

27:48

really bad ones out of the way first

27:50

when they were making the game, then do

27:52

the really good stuff. That's just a game

27:54

development. Exactly. So I think that

27:57

there is potential here. It's

28:00

a lost cause yet. I like the fact they're going

28:02

to come in and do updates that you said starfield

28:04

TV show and I instantly Perked up because that would

28:06

make a lot of sense. Yeah, I think I prefer

28:08

the mass effect show first, but that's just me well,

28:10

yeah, I If

28:13

they're considering if they're not if they're want to update

28:15

this game and try and use things to bring people

28:18

back Go for it, right? But

28:20

for some as I'm seeing in the chat right

28:22

here, it's too late, right? They tried it Yeah,

28:24

I gave them the shot and It's

28:27

not happening. Sorry. They're done. They're

28:30

moving on to other things. So Is

28:33

is Pandora's box already open could be I

28:36

would be willing to go back and give it a shot if they

28:38

if these really good Updates are going to be really good But

28:41

there are other games on the horizon that do similar

28:43

things like like I said, yeah He's working on a

28:45

new mass effect that might come out in 2030 Out

28:50

of Worlds 2 is still out in the pariah

28:52

somewhere. Yeah, but it's probably not as far off

28:54

as we think I bet Okay.

28:56

All right. Um, I don't want you to

28:58

get in trouble with the headlines here. Yeah,

29:01

that was just me guessing everybody But

29:04

yeah, so I'm I'm I'm afraid that

29:07

this game these updates might be too

29:09

late and some other titles might come in and eat it's

29:11

lunch Yeah, I think when

29:13

I like look back at starfield, it's a game that

29:15

I enjoyed a lot

29:17

of And then

29:19

I could see the seams everywhere though

29:22

And I think the real thing that happened

29:24

here was the thing I was always

29:26

worried about when they were making it it was Them

29:29

saying we are making a game that's going to last

29:31

for 10 years Because that's not

29:33

what they were saying when they were making Skyrim and

29:36

that game was a game that lasted for 10 years

29:39

It's like that was like you you focused on making a

29:41

game that people would be happy with when they bought it

29:43

immediately And as soon

29:45

as they jumped in they were gonna be

29:47

alright, this is great You weren't thinking about

29:49

setting up this world and environment to support

29:51

people who are gonna come in with mods

29:53

and and have like You know 20,000 daily

29:55

active users on Steam or something like that

29:57

for years and years beyond all that yet

30:00

it happened anyhow. Once they shifted

30:02

to be like, well, we got to replicate

30:04

that again and started thinking in that mindset,

30:06

I think they kind of screwed themselves and

30:08

started building the game backwards from that point

30:10

of view. And by

30:12

the time they got to the point where it's like, okay,

30:14

well, what is the game that people are, what's the first impression

30:16

going to be? They didn't nail

30:19

that. And I think that was the

30:21

biggest sin of Starfield by far. And

30:23

I, because of that, I

30:25

think they're in a situation where they were building this

30:27

game with the idea that it would last for a

30:30

very long time. And so they wouldn't be

30:32

thinking about a sequel for many, many years.

30:34

And so there's no chance to like go

30:36

back and do another one anytime soon. And

30:38

I think these updates are going to come out and

30:41

likely be, you know, they'll perk

30:43

things up here and there. They'll make the

30:45

thing look a little bit more palatable. If

30:48

you were to really go back into it,

30:50

I just don't think it's going to change

30:52

Starfield's fortunes overall though. No,

30:54

I think that ship has, that

30:56

spaceship has definitely launched to adapt

30:58

the cliche. I wonder

31:00

though, if maybe, I

31:04

don't want to say a story expansion because the

31:06

whole point is different stories, whoever, so I don't

31:09

even know what you would do. Do you just

31:11

put more things on the existing planets that

31:14

people might run into, like random

31:16

encounters, procedurally generated things? Like

31:18

what, I'm trying to think what the best

31:20

approach would be here even. Maybe like new

31:22

sub stories on certain planets that were doing

31:24

anything before. I know

31:27

landing on Earth is interesting. Maybe that could be a

31:29

little more interesting. Maybe

31:31

you create planets in Starfield that just go

31:33

to other Bethesda games for

31:35

some weird crossover thing. I

31:38

wouldn't even know where to begin. And that's

31:41

sad. If I were in their shoes,

31:43

the thing I would focus on is like

31:46

revising how planets feel when you land on them.

31:49

Like I would make a couple of

31:51

those planets a little bit more barren.

31:54

I would maybe reduce the number of them in total.

31:57

And then I would make it so that there was

31:59

like a couple. more instances of like, okay,

32:01

I did stumble across the moon that does

32:03

have something very interesting here and There's

32:06

more going on there and then for every

32:08

planet you land on I would completely rework

32:10

What it feels like from going from your

32:12

ship to the thing that is interesting. I

32:14

would just shrink everything down so much because

32:18

the the five-minute walk The

32:20

five to ten minute walk to get to the thing that

32:22

you're trying to get to because that when you land it's

32:24

like we're gonna put you here and then we're automatically gonna

32:26

space out all the all the important

32:29

waypoints Procedurally so that

32:31

you have to walk over there like that

32:33

completely kills the pace of that game It

32:35

was such a such a bad

32:37

decision and then having no fast way to really

32:39

to get across those landscapes with vehicles or anything

32:42

Like that and then later

32:44

on it would like fix up base building

32:46

make that matter more stuff stuff like that

32:48

But we'll see apparently there is

32:50

a story expansion included in the like special edition

32:52

so that they have to make one of those

32:54

They probably have it well on

32:56

its way. But yeah, there will be a story

32:58

expansion at some point I do wonder what that

33:01

looks like. Yeah Well

33:04

see starfield is it's an interesting one But like

33:06

I got as soon as everyone kind of got

33:08

back in a fallout I did start out start

33:10

fall out new Vegas. I'm like, yeah,

33:12

God the vibes around this are just so much

33:14

better It's so much nicer to be in this

33:16

world that is fleshed out

33:18

well thought out Especially especially

33:20

new Vegas that I'm willing to enjoy so

33:23

for our I

33:25

like three and four a ton as well I played a little bit

33:27

of four when I was getting that set up for Mike to play

33:29

with all the mods I'm just like yeah Maybe

33:33

let's just let starfield lie. It's kind of where

33:35

I end up on this if anybody's developing a

33:37

fallout project be it I know fought we've talked

33:39

about five a bit this week but like if

33:41

there's a side project going on that they haven't

33:44

announced yet or Something fall out

33:46

to tie into that they better be

33:48

fast-tracking that right now if they weren't

33:50

already because fallout is hotter than it's

33:53

been In years and not

33:55

capitalizing on that from a game perspective

33:57

other than people just going back and

33:59

playing old games would be, in

34:01

my opinion, a massive missed opportunity. And

34:04

just one more thing, the fact that we're talking about

34:06

Starfield and sidetracked to Fallout tells you

34:08

everything you need to know about the Starfield conversation. And

34:11

I think that's exactly where everyone is. I mean, we

34:13

like held off there. I

34:15

would have talked about Fallout five seconds into that conversation,

34:17

but we held off. We were pretty responsible there. I'm

34:19

proud of us, Jason. Me too. Boy,

34:22

I'd rather be playing Fallout. Absolutely. Yeah.

34:25

Okay. Super Nintendo

34:27

World's Donkey Kong Country Park delayed to

34:30

late 2024. This is the park in Japan, of

34:32

course. This is from Jim Norman at

34:34

Nintendo Life. It was right at the end of 2023

34:37

that Universal Studios announced the opening date

34:39

for its Donkey Kong Country Park at

34:41

Super Nintendo World Japan. It

34:43

was supposed to be this spring any day

34:46

now, we would assume, but instead the studio has announced

34:48

that the opening has been pushed back to late 2024.

34:51

The delay was announced by Universal Studio Japan

34:53

on Twitter with the notice giving no indication

34:55

of why the opening had been delayed, but

34:58

confirming that more details would be coming in

35:00

the future when they are ready. We've

35:03

been seeing some videos come out of

35:05

the park and like the

35:08

minecart roller coaster track being

35:10

tested and that looking pretty cool. I

35:13

bet they're like looking at a bunch

35:15

of things. We want to make a ton of tweaks, get this

35:17

just right. And that's the kind of thing that can push these

35:19

things back months. I would assume I'm not a park guy in

35:21

terms of like paying attention to this stuff. This

35:24

doesn't seem too abnormal to me though. I don't know.

35:26

What do you think? No, I'm 100% with you

35:29

on that being a fellow Disney miscreant

35:31

like Mr. Mike Jekyll

35:53

looking at that minecart roller coaster man. That's

35:55

really awesome. And honestly, with Super

35:58

Mario World and now this, the most nostalgic

36:00

thing about it and maybe you'll agree with me

36:02

on this is having to wait from when Japan

36:04

gets it to when we Get on Localization

36:08

days when you see all these people and even

36:10

like California to Orlando, right? Cuz I don't know

36:12

if I'm gonna get to Universal

36:14

in California Orlando is a little bit easier for me So

36:16

seeing all these people having all these fun all these great

36:18

rides me being like yep. Here I am Philadelphia I don't

36:21

know when I'll get to try it. But uh

36:24

Luckily, maybe this delay will sort of

36:26

lessen that were Japanese

36:28

hopefully park hours versus American park hours and they

36:31

figure out what's going on with this and they

36:33

can move it over here faster at

36:35

least to California and we can all enjoy it

36:37

a little bit sooner and I I

36:40

do worry that the fact that

36:42

they're being so Vague means there's some

36:44

sort of safety flaw, right? Like there's

36:46

some weird issue, but I guess Not

36:49

mentioning that makes sense too because they wanted to open

36:51

in late 20 to 44 without them having to go

36:53

Yep, we fixed it that thing we announced. It's all

36:56

good now And I would

36:58

assume like safety flaws are very common like that's

37:00

like, you know, you've got a bunch of machinery

37:03

Going through one things and it's like, okay

37:05

Yeah, we measured all these things out if

37:07

you're off by a couple of millimeters I

37:09

assume sometimes it's like I we can imagine a

37:11

world in which this kill someone one out of a

37:13

billion times Let's just fix that. I

37:16

could easily see that I think they're just doing their due

37:18

diligence So yeah, they probably just like hey We're

37:20

gonna fix this up have it ready to go

37:22

and then by the time it's opened We're 100%

37:25

sure that it's safe and fun and all the

37:27

things that actually matter Yeah,

37:30

and Orlando is opening up like

37:32

net early next year, right? I

37:34

think it is like 2025 Super

37:39

Nintendo world that sounds like Florida that

37:41

sounds right. Yeah, I think it's Spring

37:45

2025 because I know my family

37:47

and I are planning a trip. We're planning a trip

37:49

to Disney World this September And

37:51

it will not be open yet So

37:54

I think we immediately said we're going to be

37:57

planning another trip in 2025 so I can scoot over

37:59

to universal And uh become a kid for

38:01

a little while, but yeah, so yes 2025 does make sense Uh

38:04

spring I think too too. I don't know if they put an

38:06

actual month on it. Yeah, I think it's just spring But

38:09

yeah, that sounds right. Um I

38:13

am i'm excited about all this. It's like boy

38:15

I when are they going to expand beyond like

38:17

the mario donkey kong stuff? I I mean, I

38:19

think zelda is pretty much on the table for

38:21

orlando. Those are the rumors Uh,

38:23

but like are they I don't need

38:25

um attractions the big attractions

38:27

for everything But when I went to

38:29

super nintendo world in california, uh, and

38:32

it was like, okay, it's just it really is just all Mario

38:35

stuff and really it's just kind

38:37

of mario kart and then generic mario merch Um,

38:40

and you know the mario themed restaurant and stuff like

38:42

that It's like, okay I would wouldn't mind if there

38:44

was like a cart here Or there

38:46

that referenced a couple of these other games that aren't

38:48

ever going to get their own ride or if the

38:51

merch at the store Didn't just have mario

38:53

kart and mario stuff if there was the chance to

38:55

see something Uh from star tropics

38:57

or whatever else. That would be pretty cool

39:00

I I hope they can get to that point

39:02

here relatively soon where it's like, okay Yeah, you

39:04

came here from mario, but this is nintendo world

39:07

and you can get all kinds of different nintendo stuff here

39:09

Uh, that would be I think that'd be pretty neat. I

39:11

just in like smaller experiences. Nothing huge I'm,

39:13

not expecting a roller coaster based on star

39:15

fox even Right. They have

39:17

to have in storage somewhere all of the

39:20

old e3 booth Probably just put

39:22

like luigi's mansion put the gooey g guy there take

39:24

a picture with him There was a I think a

39:26

pickman three or was a picker had within pickman three

39:28

because pickman four wasn't even announced yet You could take

39:31

a picture with the pickman. Yeah, bring those out Just

39:33

let them for photo ops if you want to if

39:35

you want to make it one of those I know

39:38

it's disney term It's not universal term But memory maker

39:40

where you take a picture with the pickman and then

39:42

there'll be a couple on your shoulder You know stuff

39:44

like that that whole all that opportunity is there You

39:46

just got to go through the the storage facility

39:48

see what you have where you can fit it

39:50

in the park I agree with that 100% and

39:53

a good place to do it is if you're

39:55

connecting super nintendo world with donkey con world Put

39:57

it in the connection make that walkway

39:59

a little interesting. It makes perfect sense to

40:01

me. Yep. And I get why that

40:03

wouldn't happen in California and stuff like that. They

40:05

have such little space. They're trying to maximize all

40:07

of it. But, you know, Orlando, let's make it

40:10

happen. All

40:12

right. This is a story just for me. You

40:14

will get to play Sabacc in the Star Wars

40:16

Outlaws game from Ubisoft. This is from Jonas Mackie

40:18

at Game Reactor. It's actually very

40:20

strange in these times when every other

40:22

major adventure introduces its own card game

40:24

that we've never got to play Sabacc

40:26

in a Star Wars adventure video game

40:28

before. We've known about the game since

40:30

the early 80s. It was first mentioned

40:32

in the 1983 novel Lando Calrissian and the

40:34

Mine Harp of Charu. And of course, it's

40:36

most famous for Han Solo winning the Millennium

40:39

Falcon in a round with Lando Calrissian. Something

40:41

we actually got to see in Solo, a

40:43

Star Wars story from 2018. But

40:45

now we will finally get to play Sabacc

40:48

ourselves as massive entertainment offers Sabacc gambling in

40:50

the upcoming Star Wars Outlaws. I

40:53

always like a card game in Star Wars because

40:55

it does remind me of Sabacc, which is like

40:57

something that comes up in the extended universe novels

40:59

all the time. And then they find its way

41:02

into Solo. But every

41:04

card game in Star Wars is always like, we're not going to

41:06

really make Sabacc. We're going to make our own thing. What's

41:09

the one in the Republic called Puzok?

41:11

Something like that. It's been a while. Yeah. And

41:15

so this is pretty cool that they're actually going

41:17

to try to translate that. And I definitely, a

41:19

big part of this is like one of my

41:22

favorite book series when I was young was the

41:24

Han Solo trilogy. And the Sabacc

41:26

card game, like really was a big part of that.

41:28

So I have like some of the rules up in

41:30

my head, like the cards randomly shift

41:32

every once in a while at completely random

41:34

intervals. But you could put them in an

41:36

interference field, and that stops them from changing.

41:38

So you're trying to get an idiots array,

41:40

which is like a certain series of cards.

41:43

And the only way to do that is to

41:45

like lock them down and then maybe wait for

41:48

one of your cards to change and then play

41:50

your hand right then. It sounds pretty cool. I

41:52

wonder how, what it was like to take something

41:54

that was written for stories and turn it into

41:57

an actual game that you play. That doesn't always

41:59

work, right? why we haven't seen it before up

42:01

to this point, right? Correct. And

42:04

I think that this is also an indication

42:06

of just how deep into the vault massive

42:09

was allowed to go, that they were

42:11

able to bring this back. Because as you said,

42:13

it's been referenced a couple of times, but it's

42:15

much more prevalent in the extended universe. And they've

42:17

been very cautious about what they brought out of

42:19

the extended universe since basically cutting it off when

42:22

they bought it when they bought the Star Wars

42:25

franchise. So seeing it here now is very cool.

42:27

But I think it may even

42:29

give it a little more universal appeal that you might

42:31

start to see it again, not just in solo, but

42:33

maybe in some of the side projects of Disney Plus

42:35

or in the films. It's

42:37

a good place to introduce it. If Queen's

42:39

Blood is any indication, in-game card games are

42:42

a lot of fun, and people like playing

42:44

them. So it makes perfect

42:46

sense in the setting of

42:48

the game. It makes sense for a franchise

42:50

as a whole. It definitely reeks of Disney

42:52

synergy. I would love

42:54

to know. If I ever get a chance

42:56

to talk to these devs, I would love

42:58

to get into that process of figuring out

43:00

those rules, figuring out how to translate it

43:03

into and make it playable for the character

43:05

or for the players playing the game, excuse

43:07

me. Just how much detail

43:09

they were allowed to glean from the... There's

43:11

got to be some sort of like master

43:13

Star Wars lore, you know, under lock and

43:16

key in Mickey's house. So I wonder if

43:18

they were allowed to go in there and flip through the book and see how

43:21

Sabacc is supposed to

43:23

be and make it into Star

43:25

Wars Outlaws. It's a great idea. And

43:28

it's better, as you said, than making a brand

43:30

new one, go reference an older one to bring

43:32

in that nostalgia factor too. Love it. Yeah,

43:35

exactly. It's like another new card

43:37

game would have been fine. I'm

43:40

sure there's infinite card games in the universe

43:42

of Star Wars, sure. But

43:44

to have a chance to finally play Sabacc in a game, especially

43:46

one that I think feels very reminiscent

43:49

of the kinds of stories where Sabacc

43:51

originally showed up. Like, you know, that

43:53

Lando Calrissian story is a story about an outlaw

43:55

Lando Calrissian. And the Han Solo trilogy is all

43:57

about him when he was a smuggler. And

44:00

when he was working for the huts

44:02

and stuff like that. And it's

44:04

like, okay, this is the

44:06

game that reminds me most of what I

44:08

felt reading those stories. So I'm like the

44:10

chance for them to actually deliver on this

44:12

as well. It's like one more checkbox for

44:14

me personally. When I'm like, okay, they're doing,

44:16

they're making the game that I always imagined

44:18

could be possible. We'll see, I'll get

44:20

my hands on it. We'll discover that point. I don't

44:22

envy them, like as you said, trying to figure out

44:24

that process of like, how do you make the rules

44:27

honest to those stories and at the same time,

44:30

still like an interesting risk reward thing. I always

44:32

think of Golden

44:34

Snitch. What's the

44:37

room game? Yeah, Quidditch, yes, Quidditch. I would think of

44:39

Quidditch. They're making a Quidditch video game. I don't know

44:41

if that came out yet or not. It's like, that

44:43

is such a bad sport. It's

44:46

just not a good idea. Cause the

44:48

Golden Snitch is worth so many more

44:50

points. And it's like that

44:52

ends the game as well. And

44:54

it's like, even in like one of the story books, she's

44:56

like, we're going to have one of the characters and

44:59

like get the Golden Snitch just cause he wanted his

45:01

team to stop losing so much. And their team was

45:03

behind so much, they still lost. It's like, yeah, not

45:05

an interesting sport. This would never work in real life, but

45:09

you know, still, they're going to try to make it into a video game.

45:11

We'll see how that goes. All

45:14

right, up next, the Epic's

45:16

Collection Handheld and that's at the Epic's

45:18

Collection Colon Handheld is coming soon to

45:20

Switch. This is from Nintendo, everything. According

45:23

to an eShop listing, the Epic's Collection

45:25

Handheld will soon be made available on

45:27

the Switch. This marks

45:30

another classic release from Pixel Games, which

45:32

includes Blue Lightning, California Games, ElectroCop,

45:35

Gates of Zindocon, Todd's Adventure in

45:37

Slime World and Zarler Mercenary. And

45:39

then they're all part of the

45:41

collection. These are a lot of games

45:43

that like showed up on Lynx. And I think a few

45:45

showed up on Game Gear here and there. But

45:48

that Blue Lightning game is actually

45:50

a really surprisingly good, like

45:53

arcade jet fighter game. Looks a

45:56

lot like Afterburner, but it was

45:58

available for the Lynx. And it will... looks impressive

46:00

for when it came out in the 1980s.

46:04

And I'm excited that a lot of these games are finally getting

46:06

a chance to come out on a platform that a lot of

46:08

people have. Most people

46:10

probably still won't pay attention to it. But I've always

46:12

been like, oh man, that Blue Lightning game is very

46:14

fun. And of course, California games is a classic. And

46:16

I think this is the Lynx version of that as

46:18

well. And that's fine. I

46:21

always wanted to do this Hardy Lynx as a kid. I'm

46:23

glad my parents didn't actually end up getting me one because

46:25

it would have been like a nightmare trying to find batteries

46:27

all the time. I

46:29

still always wanted to win. I don't know. Any of these

46:31

games do anything for you, Jason? Not

46:34

particularly. Admittedly, with the exception of California

46:37

games, I had not heard of most

46:39

of these. Blue Lightning was

46:41

kind of fringe. But California games don't know what

46:43

I ever actually heard of. But I am all

46:45

about restoration and preservation. So the fact

46:47

that there could be games in here that

46:49

I decide that I do like after having

46:52

never heard of them before and being

46:54

able to play them

46:56

for the first time, I will now try Blue Lightning

46:58

because you mentioned it. Electro Cop

47:01

sounds very similar to a

47:04

certain other cop of robot.

47:06

I'm not sure where the

47:08

line is drawn there. But

47:11

yeah, in California games, I did play. Was

47:14

it also one like Genesis 2? I feel like it was

47:16

another. Oh yeah, it was on a lot of stuff, definitely.

47:19

So I definitely would play that too. To play the

47:21

Lynx version would be pretty neat. Honestly,

47:23

I wouldn't mind more of these

47:25

collections from older consoles

47:27

or handhelds that I never had. I also wanted

47:29

the Lynx as a kid just because I always

47:31

read about it in GamePro. Yeah. I was like,

47:34

oh, I want all the video games and we

47:36

couldn't afford everything, obviously. So again, I'm glad my

47:38

parents didn't do that either. We made that big

47:40

32X. We did not make it again. But

47:45

yeah, this is cool. Anytime older

47:48

games can be preserved and restored like this for a

47:50

new audience, even if that new audience is just like

47:52

me, you and a couple older folks, not old folks.

47:57

That's fine with me. Let's

48:00

see what Todd's adventures in slime world are all like. Yeah,

48:02

we got to find out for ourselves I have no idea

48:04

what that game is. So yeah, absolutely And

48:08

I'm like I of course I like

48:10

it when things show up on the subscription services

48:12

I already have so it's like if all these

48:14

showed up on the Atari leagues console getting added

48:16

to Nintendo switch online Of course, I think that's

48:18

preferable But I still like that's like, okay

48:21

A lot of these companies like it's not worth us to

48:23

make that deal then to know it's not quite enough money

48:26

But we will put it as its own collection

48:28

on a switch or any anywhere else And

48:30

sell it to you that way with you know, like a

48:32

handful of games and it'll be like 30 bucks I

48:35

don't know what the price of this is, but I imagine it's not

48:37

gonna be much more than that and it's like, okay I

48:39

am okay with that as well as

48:42

long as there's some incentive for you to either do

48:45

it on switch online or in a bundle like the

48:48

Castlevania advanced collection. So yeah, we're not gonna get

48:50

those on nsl because you're gonna sell them to

48:52

us You're right. You should those games own you

48:54

deserve to have extra money for those. They are

48:56

that good So I'm like fully

48:58

on board with this style of doing collections as

49:00

well And of course, we've always had collections, but it

49:03

feels like we're getting very specific

49:05

with them these days What's like the

49:07

epics collection handheld is not something you

49:09

would have found on the ps1 forever.

49:11

No, right? No, no, no.

49:14

No, I feel like some

49:16

companies are now experimenting with nostalgia

49:19

And seeing other collections and seeing just

49:21

how obscure they can get with these things

49:24

before the well dries up are we

49:26

gonna see like a cyberflix

49:28

connection of like Titanic and rust

49:31

or not rust dust and all

49:33

those old FMV Point-and-click adventures

49:35

at some point. Yeah, let's do

49:37

that. But um, yeah, I

49:39

don't know how deep this

49:41

well goes But the

49:44

fact that companies are now gonna try this. Yeah,

49:46

why not? I mean Alright

49:48

last story here play dates catalog has sold

49:50

a hundred and fifty thousand games earning developers

49:52

more than 540 thousand

49:54

five hundred forty four thousand dollars. This

49:57

is from Chris scullion at VGC Playdate

50:00

manufacturer Panic has announced that the

50:02

handheld's built-in store, the

50:04

catalog, it's called Catalog, has sold more than

50:06

150,000 games. Catalog

50:09

arrived on Playdate in March 2023

50:11

and allowed developers to sell their

50:13

own games through the handheld itself. There are now

50:15

181 games on Catalog with an average

50:19

game price of $5.36. Panic says more than $544,000 has

50:21

been paid to the developers since

50:26

Catalog launched. Yeah,

50:29

okay, so this is the kind of thing

50:31

where they put out an infographic of this. They

50:33

are like chirping this, they're like, hey, we are,

50:35

we did this, this is a cool thing. And

50:38

I think that that's probably accurate that this is

50:40

like way more than they ever expected to do

50:42

with the Playdate. Because people might not remember when

50:44

the Playdate was announced, it was, we are going

50:46

to sell you this thing. And

50:49

every two weeks, you're going to get a game or

50:51

two downloaded onto it from the internet

50:53

that we've already finished as part of a season. And

50:55

then we might do a season two. It

50:58

was never going to have a store, that was never the

51:00

idea. It's like you could side load stuff. They're like, hey,

51:02

no, if you want, you can go get stuff off the

51:05

internet that people make for the Playdate and side load it

51:07

for free, or buy it on itch or something like that,

51:09

however they want to sell it. But you could side load

51:11

it yourself. And you could still do that, of course. But

51:14

they were like, oh, you know, at a certain point, there's a lot

51:16

of enough interest here, maybe we should just have our store and, and

51:18

try to see if we can get some developers on there. So that

51:21

$544,000 is like literally an

51:24

infinite amount more than what they were expecting to

51:26

do when they launched this thing. So I think

51:28

in that light, this is just nothing but a

51:31

success, right? Correct. I

51:33

think the fact that it's such a unique

51:36

niche thing, and it's

51:38

sold like this, they have to be, you know, clicking

51:41

their heels and jumping out of their seats.

51:43

This is amazing. The fact that developers alone

51:45

have pulled in 500k for their games, and

51:47

only 181 of them exist, that sort of math

51:51

is very, very impressive. Who? What

51:54

the gentleman's name eludes me. He put a

51:57

game just on this. The papers, please, guys.

51:59

Yeah. Papers, please guy. I'm I know I'm trying

52:01

to think of it too The

52:03

name of the game it Lucas Pope. Yes.

52:05

Yeah, that is that is the game. I'm

52:08

most interested in I have seen I've not

52:10

held one of these yet, but I've seen

52:13

One or two out in the wild. It looks kind

52:15

of cool. It looks very This

52:20

is my second one because I Lost

52:22

and broke my first one in my move

52:24

across the country and then they're like they

52:26

did another round like hey Where you guys

52:28

want one? I'm like, I broke my last one. Can

52:30

I get another one? So they then they sent this to me a few

52:33

months later and I'm like, oh, thank you so much I

52:35

also keep meaning to buy the Lucas Pope

52:37

game because I've heard nothing but good things

52:39

about it Yeah, it's you know, I I

52:41

have some friends that are like in the

52:44

scene for the play date, right? They like

52:46

work it with developers that make games

52:48

for this thing And it's like, you know, it does

52:50

seem like a small little passion that they're doing on

52:52

the side Lucas Pope didn't have to make a game

52:55

for this That's amazing that he did and it's apparently

52:57

like I said people seem to really like it So it's like

53:00

it's that kind of thing where people who make the interesting

53:02

fun games that we talk about at the end of the

53:04

year We're like for this game out of nowhere. It's game

53:06

of the year material They are making stuff

53:08

for something like this or they have in the past And

53:11

so the play that continues to be an interesting thing for

53:13

me Even if it's not ever gonna be the thing I'm

53:15

turning on every day It is like

53:18

the occasional fun distraction and

53:20

you could see some interesting new ideas from developers that have made

53:22

a ton of cool stuff in the past Chat

53:25

has set a straight Mars after midnight. There's

53:27

a new moon. That's it right there. Yeah.

53:29

Absolutely. Yes. Thank you chat. Appreciate you But

53:32

yeah, I you know I I would like to

53:34

you know, try it and hold it first before

53:36

I actually take the plunge if I never I

53:38

don't know if they Have more if they're just

53:40

open for sale now or how that works Because

53:44

it's like you said it's not gonna be something you pick up and play

53:47

every single day But it is something that when

53:49

a new game comes out for it, you'll get a couple of

53:51

hours of you know, unique Fun

53:54

experiences that you can only find on

53:56

this device. I'm sorry the amount of

53:58

people in chat saying that you need to crank it

54:00

on stream for everyone. Yeah, you got to crank it

54:02

on stream, Jason. What's the problem? I

54:05

don't have a... I'm not finishing that. Okay.

54:07

Yo! I don't... Hello, Dream! No respect.

54:15

Yeah, so

54:17

congratulations to the Playdate.

54:19

It is awesome that it's having this run. I'll

54:21

get in there eventually, I promise. And

54:24

Panic! should be very, very happy with what they've seen

54:26

so far, as far as sales

54:28

and money earned and everything like that. Very, very

54:30

cool. Kind of goes back to what we were

54:32

talking about in the very first segment with Kingdom

54:35

Come. Kind of very cool to see something come

54:37

out of sort of nowhere, try a brand new

54:39

unique thing, and have success

54:42

like this. It's

54:44

awesome. And in an

54:46

industry that recently has been

54:48

very, and rightfully so, filled

54:51

with negative, not negative, sort of depressing

54:53

sort of stories to see little

54:56

successes like this. It kind of reminds you

54:58

why we do this to begin with, right?

55:01

Absolutely. One of a couple of

55:03

couple of spotlights here and there are nice, amidst

55:05

all of the calamity and

55:07

whoa. Yes, yes. So some light amongst

55:09

the clouds for sure. It's also

55:13

nice to me to just see that like something small

55:15

and not trying to be part of the big

55:18

video game industry machine can

55:21

succeed. It's like, no, we're going to do our own thing

55:23

off to the side and it's not going to be, we're

55:25

not going to be in yet another place for you to

55:27

play your PC games. And it's not yet

55:30

another thing people are going to be porting games that already

55:32

exist to. It's like, no, no, if they want to make

55:34

a game specifically for this thing, we will provide them the

55:36

platform to do that. And

55:39

maybe they'll sell a handful of games enough to

55:41

make it worth their while. And it

55:43

seems like that's the way it's working out. And I

55:45

continue to be pretty impressed by what they did with

55:47

the play name. All

55:49

right. Let's get to the poll question. Actually, you

55:52

know what? We have a little bit of time.

55:54

If anyone wants to ask a question, let's do

55:56

a grub snacks, a special little grub snacks. Use

55:59

the ask the question. button here on giant

56:01

bomb.com/chat or if you're in Twitch just drop

56:03

your question there and chat I should be

56:05

able to see it but

56:07

we'll answer your questions real quick before we get to the

56:09

poll so if you want to get that going feel free

56:11

to drop that in there and I'll get things set up.

56:13

While we're waiting Jason what do you tell people

56:16

where they can find you on the internet what

56:18

you have going on all that good

56:20

stuff. So at Big Man Finale on

56:22

Twitter and other socials just did a

56:25

guest spot on the fun and games

56:27

podcast a podcast run by

56:29

Matt Storm who's like a video editor for Game

56:31

Informer and another person whose name I cannot remember it now

56:33

I'm so sorry other person but they have a

56:35

side gig where they have people come on and

56:37

they just talk themselves about a game

56:41

that they like and I mentioned cyberflix

56:43

because my episode went live today and

56:45

I talked about the 1996 point-and-click adventure

56:48

Titanic adventure out of time which

56:50

is amazing which is an amazing

56:53

retro like it's a very hard

56:56

game to explain

56:58

but it's so fun and eerie

57:00

and historically accurate like they went

57:03

in and built the ship like

57:05

from scratch some 3d some 2d you can even

57:07

if you're not playing the game you can just

57:09

tour it and like the people who

57:12

stop-motion FMV yes that's exactly what it is

57:15

and and like you can just tour the ship and the people

57:17

who are in the like

57:20

the characters in the game will narrate stuff

57:22

about the ship to you but the actual

57:24

the actual adventure is like you go back

57:26

and you're a disgraced British secret service agent

57:28

who was back in time to right his

57:30

wrong and you're like using clues and solving

57:33

puzzles to find these relevant items and then

57:35

once you do that like

57:38

it's just it's go listen to it over at fun and

57:40

games podcast I talked about it for 20 minutes and

57:43

it's it's if you get

57:45

can play it on good old games or more

57:47

appropriately steam because it is a steamboat go

57:50

check that out if you're

57:52

in the fill it I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch this

57:54

during the Philadelphia area for the next two weekends if

57:57

you go to st. Francis players org that is

57:59

the theater groups and we open the

58:01

music man tonight tonight seven o'clock tomorrow

58:04

seven o'clock Sunday two o'clock same schedule

58:06

next week tickets are available on that

58:08

website there you come see me sing

58:10

the high tenor in the barbershop quartet

58:12

got that high voice going you go

58:15

there and you're gonna fall for Jason

58:17

do not

58:20

yell giant bomb in a crowded theater everybody

58:22

please don't know my behalf don't do that

58:24

oh god don't do that just know because

58:26

I'll laugh and a couple other guys away

58:28

but everyone else be like what but

58:32

if you do show up after the show the cast

58:34

does come out to greet the audience if you're if

58:36

you you can say giant bomb sent you and I

58:38

will shake your hand and give you a high-five and

58:40

measure perfectly okay but yeah giant Bob said you will

58:42

be awesome but if you can't do that I completely

58:44

understand but you can also find me writing news on

58:46

GameSpot and MMORPG a couple of

58:48

things going on there and yeah

58:50

that's that's what I'm doing all

58:53

right we got some of these grub snack

58:55

questions get these get these real quick let's

58:58

see a DMC D23 asks what's your favorite

59:00

color Jason green my

59:02

favorite color continues and will forever be gray

59:04

no matter how much everyone tries to shame

59:06

me for that he's just saying

59:09

that because it's slowly taking over his head that's

59:11

right exactly I'm trying to embrace it before before

59:13

that comes for me let's

59:15

see scrub my grub how many more generations does

59:17

physical media have left just saw just saw target

59:20

is doing away with it next I mean

59:22

it's good depend on the specific medium but

59:26

I bet the next Xbox

59:29

and PlayStation console generations launch

59:31

without this drives built in they

59:34

will sell them separately still they will not be

59:36

built in from like that the

59:38

main model like will not have a district built in what

59:40

do you think Jason I

59:42

agree but I think this drives

59:44

are slowly going away and it's

59:48

over it's what they wanted in 2013 they were a

59:50

little Microsoft was a little early but um it's

59:53

yeah it's we're it's cloud streaming

59:55

it's direct downloads as much

59:57

as I love physical media it's just a thing of the past

1:00:00

So unless they're gonna start

1:00:02

putting games on USB or

1:00:06

cartridges of that sort, I think this drives or a

1:00:08

thing in the past as much as I hate to

1:00:10

say it. Let's see. Let's

1:00:12

see. Let's go with

1:00:16

One-winged zero on Twitch says any plans to

1:00:18

play more PS1 games? Yeah, all the time.

1:00:21

I always want to be playing more PS1

1:00:23

games against that generation. We

1:00:25

definitely got some momentum going about wanting to

1:00:27

do a license to thrill here pretty soon

1:00:29

where we'll play some more license games. PS1

1:00:31

is rife with that. We'll

1:00:34

get some more PS1 games up on the site

1:00:36

pretty soon for sure. When are you gonna play

1:00:38

Croc Legend of the Gabos? I

1:00:40

would love to play Croc Legend of

1:00:42

the Gabos. Curse flat,

1:00:45

baby. Sandwich Jones

1:00:47

is the skate reboot safe. He's dropping games like

1:00:49

flies. I don't know. I haven't checked recently. I

1:00:52

think so. I'll look into it, see what

1:00:54

I can find out and let you know. And

1:00:57

then Croc Review asks, you all played Deep

1:00:59

Rock Survivor at all. I'm enjoying it a

1:01:01

lot on my Steam Deck. I'm

1:01:03

not. I was gonna play that and

1:01:05

that Geometry Wars survival game. That's

1:01:08

like Vampire Survivors. Both came around the same time and

1:01:10

I think they kind of canceled each other out in

1:01:12

my brain. I didn't play either one, but

1:01:14

I will get around to checking that out. I

1:01:17

also never really spent that much time with like Shoot Deep

1:01:19

Rock Survivor or Deep Rock Galactic. And

1:01:21

I've been meaning to do that. Yeah,

1:01:25

and Always Be Clothing wants to know, do I

1:01:27

have any comments on the Mount Rushmore of furries

1:01:29

that by one Jeff Grubb's

1:01:31

game match last night? I

1:01:33

will have to come in

1:01:35

and be pretty stern with what they did while

1:01:37

I was busy last night and do my own

1:01:39

show. So we'll get in there, fix things.

1:01:42

Daddy's home now, everybody. You guys

1:01:44

better button up. Alright,

1:01:47

let's see here. Poll question. Let's get to

1:01:49

it. That's not a poll question.

1:01:51

What is that? That's just, that's my personal files there.

1:01:54

Of Atta Boys. Let me go here instead.

1:01:58

Have You ever played a Muffin? The game Yes

1:02:00

or no. Fifty Eight, Fifty six percent said

1:02:03

yes Of forty four percent said no. As

1:02:05

usually am I gay, That's that's Oh, quite

1:02:07

a bit of people at Six, six percent

1:02:09

like outplayed a mafia game before arm and

1:02:11

I suppose that is why they're making a

1:02:13

new one, right? Who is you get over

1:02:16

that threshold were like two and two point

1:02:18

Seven thousand people asked by hey are you

1:02:20

are with a cigar or up or at

1:02:22

your fifty six percent like yeah I play

1:02:24

when it was before. Once you reach that

1:02:27

threshold, I bet it's like guy is kept

1:02:29

a name recognition. We should just go back to

1:02:31

that, right? Yeah. I think I

1:02:33

wonder how many if you were to just extrapolate that

1:02:35

data little more? How many of those if you said

1:02:37

which wanted to play. It would

1:02:39

be because I feel like. Must. Stop.

1:02:42

The when then. Add

1:02:45

a boy has come for you are consistent.

1:02:47

Goal of this I feel I get wisdom.

1:02:49

What makes him? It's a silly mafia to.

1:02:51

Was. The most popular of the three eyed that's

1:02:54

the only one likely Srs. Oh wait, a

1:02:56

little biased on I will say playing mafia

1:02:58

to was gonna go into a family reunion

1:03:00

in a sense and so there was a

1:03:02

copy. So what's the matter you I think

1:03:04

get your of and one point of reposted

1:03:06

a table. i'm not the Mafia promised. Ah

1:03:08

but. I. Guess I'm hoping

1:03:10

I'm hoping to do. and I

1:03:12

hope they go back to the

1:03:15

old school. Like. I yesterday

1:03:17

we were talking about it. I kept saying the Godfather

1:03:19

the Games as I think the Godfather the game is

1:03:21

the best mafia game. I. Loved that game.

1:03:23

I like Mafia to but I like

1:03:25

Godfather better. At ago I thought the

1:03:27

open world was better. some hoping if

1:03:29

they do go back to mafia it's

1:03:31

more like a classic. Old. School

1:03:34

Mafia gangster sort of film. but

1:03:36

in the game radials Mafia Three

1:03:38

as much as spawners looked, I'm

1:03:40

in Italy. I did not play

1:03:43

it and I'm. I.

1:03:45

Feel it? Maybe I should. And cases no one is

1:03:47

common. Yes, I I I think I

1:03:49

never came off your three chance either. am I give

1:03:51

that when a shot eyes? Although that's in the same

1:03:53

zone as something like a Mad Max with me and

1:03:56

I never played that like Mad Max down. I really

1:03:58

want to go back to. Ah, but. Own apartment

1:04:00

for a living? Yeah exactly. Am I bet that

1:04:02

games way better than I ever even thought it

1:04:04

was a serious is coming out something something you

1:04:07

should stream moment a good idea. good idea. Synergy

1:04:09

right there are well has are One last question

1:04:11

says you're Jason If we're in the area where

1:04:13

can we check out the Music Man show and

1:04:15

are we allowed to tailgate and we said the

1:04:18

go and say it again where people can find

1:04:20

that are St. Francis players.org and the ticket link

1:04:22

is on that website their tailgating or can't tell

1:04:24

you what to do and not do but I

1:04:26

will they figure out how to do it anyway.

1:04:29

Oh. Well okay, It

1:04:31

is a parking lot of a church so

1:04:33

you may get some looks your that we

1:04:35

do with it. We use the the gym

1:04:38

of an Element Catholic Elementary school at our

1:04:40

figure so I'm. Get. Out that the

1:04:42

priest comes out just in the same it'll be

1:04:44

fine. Don't do it. Don't do it to everyone's

1:04:46

watching from see friends. Right now I am not

1:04:48

advocating the debate. Know the for sure absolutely isn't.

1:04:52

The but. Not a seperate Sea Breezes plays

1:04:54

that always ring of honor. I. A new

1:04:56

for question did you play Kingdom Come Deliverance?

1:04:58

Yes or no. Will get to that on

1:05:01

Monday on game as moorings for I think

1:05:03

there's any reason would be able to a

1:05:05

show on Monday. Now we should back on

1:05:07

Monday with more here on Giant Bomb. Speaking

1:05:09

of giant bomb later today you pf not

1:05:11

much later after about an hour when you

1:05:13

get back into content morning. ominous even get

1:05:15

it set up in the time that we

1:05:17

have a for a more than four players.

1:05:20

A If we can't muscle just to play

1:05:22

the game with four players will see who

1:05:24

complaints. Ah but if we can get everybody.

1:05:26

And their we will I think. The.

1:05:28

Way it works as he of them a

1:05:30

server set up. Some might take my Power

1:05:32

World server that I think I think I

1:05:34

still have for another month or so I

1:05:36

convert that over to a content morning server

1:05:38

will cease. Ah though the yeah able to

1:05:40

take a little set up but at it

1:05:42

an hour after that we are going to

1:05:44

do our first of what should be the

1:05:46

regular cadence of of Power Bomb cast going

1:05:48

forward. Look after that that I'll be in

1:05:50

the A B C R slight instead this

1:05:52

week. So low that I am very excited

1:05:54

about it. I thank you so much you're

1:05:57

spinning today! Talking with me about video. Games. I

1:05:59

really appreciate it. I'm. Always happy

1:06:01

to be here Jeff whenever you know you need

1:06:03

me to say the word nine here but we

1:06:05

will make it happens or government asks. Will grub

1:06:07

do a watch party of rub rebel Moon part

1:06:09

to. I might. Man

1:06:12

at first I was ah so that it's

1:06:14

one of the worst things I've ever seen

1:06:16

that my kind of obsessed with how bad

1:06:18

it as so. Maybe we'll see Douglas or

1:06:20

you're the best audience and gaming and so

1:06:22

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1:06:24

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