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to the game of roses. This

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1:37

the game of roses. Welcome

1:41

to game of roses. This

1:45

is Pace Case. This

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is bachelor Cluez and

1:51

we are days away of historic bachelor

1:53

season 28. It's airing on

1:56

Monday, March 20th. FIV.

2:01

Do you know why that date is significant? Uh,

2:05

it is the anniversary of our beloved

2:07

game. That's right. March 25th, 2002

2:09

was episode one, season one of The Bachelor. We

2:14

got to see Dark Lord Harrison. That's where

2:16

the DWAB and the DWAB started. That's when

2:18

they both started. And Alex

2:20

Michelle put this franchise on his

2:23

back, and now, what

2:25

is it, 22 years later, we

2:27

are in season 28, and we

2:29

have Grazi. Aren't we so lucky?

2:31

We are. We are living in a very good

2:33

era of reality TV and teaching us. Speaking

2:36

of hashtag bless, speaking of hashtag greatest

2:39

area of reality TV of all time, Traders

2:42

season one, episode two is in

2:44

Clue's Corner now. Oh my gosh,

2:46

I haven't even watched one. Season

2:49

one is great. Season one has civilians

2:52

mixed in with the reality celebrities,

2:54

which is, I have mixed feelings

2:56

about that, but... And more importantly,

2:58

Luyendyk. Luyendyk is in the episodes,

3:00

yes. Ari, of

3:02

course, not Alessi. I

3:04

can't wait to see. I

3:07

want to see if his and Popeye's strategies were similar. Yeah,

3:09

I'm very curious to see what his police strategy is going

3:11

to be as well, but check that out if you haven't,

3:14

and we look forward to seeing you in the

3:16

bottom of the pit. But this is This Week

3:18

in Bachelor Nation. This is our Friday show that

3:21

wraps up everything that's been going on around the

3:23

nation and reality TV generally. We're going to give

3:25

you all those tids in

3:27

Bachelor Nation news, all those parasocial plays. We've

3:29

got some screams coming up in the end

3:32

of this episode. And before

3:35

we get to any of that, though, we must, of

3:37

course, talk about something

3:39

that's happening in Game of Roses.

3:45

Date of the game. So

3:49

we had a very interesting woman till all this

3:52

week. Of course, Maria

3:54

stole the show. Producers,

3:56

if you're listening, she must be

3:59

bachelor. Bachelorette. Maria

4:01

must be Bachelorette.

4:05

You have no other choice here. Bachelorette.

4:07

Maria must be Bachelorette.

4:10

There's just so much

4:12

left on the table if she's not the Bachelorette in my

4:14

opinion. There's no choice. She

4:17

is a star. I agree. Even

4:20

if she's polarizing people. That's why

4:22

they'll watch. It doesn't matter. It's the polarization.

4:24

How would she maneuver through a season as

4:26

a lead? We have to see that. We

4:29

are pleading with you. I can't wait

4:31

for the AIs to give it to me. I

4:33

need to see it now. Hopefully the AIs won't

4:35

have to. Hopefully the producers will give it to

4:37

us. It's

4:39

clear to us that some of the things we say on

4:42

this show make their way into the show

4:44

itself, into the Bachelor world, and

4:46

have some impact. Hopefully,

4:50

we've helped. I believe we

4:52

have been helpful in making the

4:54

show better, getting it back on a

4:56

track where it's dominating ratings. Season

4:59

28 is one of the most successful seasons in a

5:01

long time. Please take

5:04

our advice. Maria is the next Bachelorette.

5:06

She will continue the upward trajectory. No

5:08

one else from this season will. I'm

5:11

not saying they wouldn't turn in good seasons, but ...

5:13

The Bachelor is my life. The

5:15

Bachelor is my whole life. The Bachelor is my lifestyle.

5:18

I just want it to be good. That

5:20

is my main desire for it. I

5:23

do think that she will make the best

5:25

season. There's just such an anticipation for her.

5:27

This, by the way, isn't even state of

5:29

the game. This isn't even state of the

5:31

game. There's just such an anticipation

5:34

for her that if you

5:36

deny the satisfaction of that anticipation,

5:38

I think you will lose a

5:40

large number of viewers. You've

5:43

built her up in such a way that

5:45

we must see the conclusion of her story.

5:47

I've seen the comments. Yeah, we all have.

5:50

Some of them are threatening. Speaking

5:53

of threatening comments ... Okay, let's just get into

5:55

it then. Speaking of

5:57

threatening comments, yes. Maria

5:59

did steal the show, but ... Rachel Nance had

6:01

an extremely important hot seat at

6:03

this Women Tell All. It was

6:06

an anti-bullying, anti-racism kind of hot

6:08

seat. They buried it

6:10

deep in the show at the end. But

6:13

to me, they buried it deep

6:15

in the show maybe, but this whole show, there

6:17

was nothing buried. To me, it was

6:19

one of the greatest tell-alls that we've ever seen for a

6:21

variety of reasons. One was the Maria show, two

6:24

was Rachel Nance doing what she did in this

6:26

hot seat, which was a very important moment. And

6:29

at one point, No, this was

6:31

historic. It was not only historic, it was

6:33

referential to something else that was historic, especially

6:35

when DLP says show of hands,

6:37

who's experienced this? Now, recently, Pace

6:40

Case and I went back into the vault of

6:42

time and we rewatched the

6:45

Women Tell All for Pilot Pete's Bachelor season 24.

6:48

This occurred on March 2nd, 2020. In

6:52

that tell-all, they brought out

6:54

Rachel Lindsay, the first black

6:56

bachelorette. She was not a

6:58

player in that season. They brought her

7:00

out to sit next to Chris Harrison

7:03

and talk about many of the same

7:05

things. Now, we're gonna play that clip

7:07

for you right now in

7:09

its entirety, and then we're gonna

7:11

come back out and talk about it. Again,

7:14

this is from March 2nd, 2020. Here

7:17

we go. I feel like you guys

7:19

hear us talk about the hate that we

7:21

receive, but you have no idea

7:24

what it is. And

7:26

the only way that I can actually make you

7:28

feel it is for you to

7:30

see it. So I wanna start out by

7:32

reading some of these messages that these women

7:35

have received. And I just wanna warn you that they're

7:37

graphic, they're explicit, and

7:40

it's shocking. You're

7:48

an emotional, stupid bitch. Kill

7:52

yourself, you're useless. Fuck

7:55

you. Stupid

8:00

punk-ass bitch, if I ever see you, get

8:02

ready to have your lawyer ready because I'm

8:04

gonna fuck you up, bitch. Of

8:11

course you pulled the black card. You're

8:13

so jealous, holy shit. Stop

8:16

being a jealous bitch. It doesn't

8:18

look good on you, and you

8:20

need all the help you can get looking good

8:22

because you're the ugliest girl in the house. No

8:32

one cares about a half-sex, half-Mexican

8:34

bitch's opinion. You

8:39

are disgusting and are

8:42

jealous. I'm

8:45

like shaking as I'm reading

8:47

this because it's

8:51

shocking, it's uncomfortable. I know it's uncomfortable for

8:53

you to see. Just imagine how

8:55

uncomfortable it is to get this

8:57

in your comments and your DMs every day. Every

9:00

week, every month. And

9:03

you guys, that's just a tip

9:06

of the iceberg. Clearly

9:08

what we're talking about isn't

9:11

criticism. This is

9:14

hate. How

9:16

many of you have faced

9:19

true hate? Not criticism, true

9:21

hate. That's

9:25

a hundred percent of you. You

9:28

have to set your DMs that have

9:30

filters for certain words so you don't

9:32

see them. It's literally that

9:35

batch where you have to try to figure out a

9:37

way to block it out so you don't see

9:39

it on a day-to-day so it literally brings you down.

9:42

I was so afraid to even pick up my

9:44

phone because people were saying such nasty things to

9:46

me. She was getting death threats. I was

9:48

saying death work emails. My work email saying that, hey, I

9:50

want to buy a house, but it's actually a paragraph of

9:52

how I should go kill my phone. I'm

9:59

really excited. Yeah, I

10:01

guess it's just hard growing up. I grew

10:03

up in a predominantly white town with a

10:05

white mom and a white dad. And

10:08

then coming out, hearing all these

10:10

comments, saying these things, it's just

10:12

hard. When

10:15

you're bullied for the

10:17

way that you were born or

10:20

the color of your skin, that's

10:22

something that's not a choice and that's something that

10:24

you can't change. Sometimes

10:27

I've had to go through my life because of the color

10:29

of my skin and because of where I'm

10:31

from, I've had to be really strong. In

10:34

a moment where you don't even know how

10:36

to be strong, you just have to

10:38

do it because if you don't, you're

10:41

going to fall apart. So I

10:44

have to be that for myself. But when

10:47

these things are said about you and those wounds

10:49

from your past, they're never

10:51

fully closed. So then when

10:54

people attack you that way and the way

10:57

it makes my mother feel, it's just

11:01

like when it comes to the point of

11:03

attacking someone for who their mother and father

11:05

is and because of the color of their skin, that's

11:08

where I have to stop. And just

11:10

because you talk a certain way or you

11:12

act a certain way, you can't stereotype someone

11:14

based off of that. That's ridiculous and it's

11:16

upsetting to think that, oh, someone's a certain

11:18

race. They can't be proper or they can't...

11:20

Or have blonde hair. They can't have blonde

11:22

hair. Why does that matter? I was going

11:25

to say a lot of the comments that I got right

11:27

away off the show was about my hair

11:30

and my choice of being natural

11:32

and it sucks and it hurts. Your

11:35

hair is beautiful. It's literally your hair.

11:37

It's beautiful. It's beautiful. And

11:39

then also, I had

11:41

so much love come in and it

11:43

meant so much to get messages from people

11:45

saying that it's important to have representation and

11:47

thank you. I think that it means a

11:49

lot more to me. The love is

11:52

a lot louder. You just can't

11:54

listen to that negativity. So

11:57

back in 2020, the way they did it was

11:59

they brought in... Rachel Lindsay who at

12:01

the time was the only black bachelorette. They

12:03

brought her out from a prior season. She

12:05

was obviously a big figure still within bachelor

12:08

nation, but she came out there and she

12:10

did this for them. She kind of shouldered

12:12

this whole conversation on her back. She's reading

12:14

the mean tweets. She's crying. Everybody is tear

12:16

playing in the player pool as well. And

12:20

now... She's literally the only lead of color

12:22

they'd ever had. Right. And since

12:24

then, we have had multiple

12:26

black bachelorettes. We've had Tayshia in

12:28

season 16, the second

12:30

half of season 16 of Bachelorette. We've

12:32

had Michelle Young in season 18, and

12:34

we have had, of course, Charity Lawson

12:36

in one of the greatest bachelorette seasons

12:38

of all time in season 20. So

12:41

some things have changed at least in

12:43

the franchise. And who's sitting across from

12:45

each other in this clip? Wouldn't see that

12:47

in 2024. It's D.L.H.

12:49

and Rachel Lindsay. Yeah, that was Dark Lord

12:52

Harrison sitting right next to her. Obviously, their

12:54

relationship changed over the years, to say

12:57

the least. But I think

13:00

to me, it was just kind of an interesting moment

13:02

seeing Rachel Nance essentially do the

13:04

same kind of thing, but the way it was

13:06

presented was different. Because back in season 24... In

13:10

some ways. Yeah, in some ways, certainly. Whatever.

13:13

I'm not saying there's not a lot of work to

13:15

be done, but it seemed like it

13:17

was better this time around. No, I mean the

13:19

raise your hand thing. Yeah, Dark Lord Harrison basically

13:21

did that too. Who has been affected by this?

13:24

They all raise their hands. Literally,

13:26

that raise the hand thing is exactly the

13:28

same. When D.L.P. did that, it did bump

13:30

me and I've kind of let it simmer.

13:32

And when he asked

13:34

all the chairs to

13:37

raise their hands for

13:39

who has gotten hateful

13:42

messages and everyone raises

13:45

their hands, it bumped

13:47

me because it equates

13:50

generic trolling with racist trolling

13:52

a little bit. There's

13:55

just something about the way...

13:57

And then we see Joey's...

14:00

Because Joey's response is very,

14:02

you know, he's not saying racism,

14:04

but we are getting the word racism

14:06

in the Women Tell All this time

14:09

around. And we're also getting

14:11

it from this POV of Rachel, who

14:13

we've been watching all season. It's not like

14:15

they're bringing someone back from years ago and

14:19

doing this gorgeous cheer

14:22

play and describing

14:25

her lived experience,

14:27

which I think just like resonates a lot more.

14:31

Not that Rachel Lindsay isn't amazing, but she's

14:34

not whose story we've been watching. Yeah,

14:36

the March 2nd, 2021, the Rachel Lindsay

14:39

one to me, obviously historically. Oh, God,

14:41

they're both named Rachel. That's

14:43

true, too. But it was obviously historically

14:45

important, but it felt to me much

14:48

more like the show doing

14:51

this because they're kind of forced to. And

14:53

the show is taking no responsibility in

14:55

the fact that they're creating these edits

14:57

that make people hate these players that

14:59

turn them into villains. That season specifically,

15:01

you had like Victoria

15:03

Fuller with the Chase Rice scenario.

15:06

You had Hannah Sluss and Madison

15:08

Pruitt, you know,

15:10

in the same bed during the fantasy

15:12

suites, having that conversation and stuff. They

15:14

were just more malicious back then. The

15:16

current season, I felt like it really

15:18

was the show was behind the message

15:20

instead of like manufacturing it.

15:23

If anybody had had sex with any

15:25

of the players who were the musical

15:27

performers, we didn't know about it. It

15:30

didn't make the idea. They left that

15:32

out of the edit. I just mean

15:34

to say that it felt more sincere

15:38

this time around, not to say that what

15:40

Rachel Lindsay was saying wasn't sincere. I'm talking

15:42

about the production of it, the decision to

15:44

get her to come to shoot it in

15:47

that way, et cetera, et cetera. This

15:49

felt like more real. It also just side

15:51

note reminded me of what

15:53

a great player pool that was. They

15:56

bring back Alexa Raycave, night one player. night

16:00

one players come back anymore. I mean, she

16:02

became a verb. You've got caved. Yes,

16:05

I know. In my opinion, that's

16:07

when you go to paradise and never get to come out of your hotel room.

16:11

Yeah. After what she did for them,

16:14

which is like kind of, I don't

16:16

know, sharing her story here. Paradise book.

16:18

We'll have our episode about the changes

16:20

that need to be made for paradise.

16:22

But there's also something that's interesting to

16:25

me about this entire era that we're

16:27

living through where it's the victims are

16:29

sticking up for the villains in some

16:31

cases. We saw Maria do

16:33

it at this tell all say directly to

16:35

the camera. Everybody who's shitting on

16:38

Leia and Sydney, like layoff, they don't

16:40

deserve it. It's for TRR. It's

16:43

giving crown contention. Absolutely. But it's also

16:45

like a contradiction of the edit. Maria

16:47

is basically saying like they cut them

16:49

to look like villains layoff, that's the

16:51

subtext. The same is true

16:53

of what Jess Vestal did

16:56

on the Love is Blind season six

16:58

reunion to Jimmy and Chelsea. She's the

17:00

exact same thing. They're

17:02

getting so much hate, layoff them.

17:04

It's not their fault, essentially. We

17:06

saw Kelsey Anderson do it to

17:08

Leslie FEMA, our golden

17:11

bachelorette. Yeah,

17:13

that's true. It's

17:16

definitely like, I

17:19

don't know. It is heartening to me that we're taking

17:21

this on. I think that this probably should be in,

17:23

no, this definitely

17:25

should be in every Home

17:28

and Tell All because you

17:30

have to do something. Yes. Otherwise

17:32

you're just letting these or, you know, at

17:35

least pay the players something. Well,

17:37

there's also like this, this idea in

17:39

it, which I think since 2020, what

17:41

I'm about

17:43

to say has like, it has happened more and

17:45

more. The merger of the

17:47

fourth audience with these media products.

17:51

Like we're not simply just watching

17:53

and sending mean DMS to people

17:55

anymore, especially in bachelor. There's podcasts

17:57

like us. There's a bunch of us.

18:00

There's us, there's Dave Neil, there's Claire Nam, but

18:02

there's like so many. And the things that we

18:04

say do affect the show. I

18:06

mean, in some cases, I'm literally training people to

18:08

infiltrate it. So it's like the

18:10

line is a little more blurred between the

18:12

fourth audience and the show itself. That's certainly

18:15

true of like Real Housewives and shit. I

18:17

mean, we saw 4TRR in the document.

18:19

Yeah, that too. On Evelyn's jean jacket.

18:22

And I think that is like kind of

18:25

a part of this too. There is, in

18:27

my opinion, there is a responsibility if

18:29

you are a member of the fourth audience to

18:32

not do these things. It's

18:34

like we have a relationship with the show and

18:36

with the people that are in it. And

18:38

there is, in my opinion anyway,

18:40

as a member of the fourth audience,

18:42

there is like a stewardship of

18:45

the culture of the audience that we are all

18:47

a part of. And it's like,

18:49

don't make it fucking toxic. Don't be mean

18:51

to these people. It goes from the top

18:53

down. Absolutely. I don't know if

18:55

you can, in

18:57

some ways, stop it. Fully,

19:00

I feel like that's just impossible on

19:02

the internet at this point, but

19:04

I am heartened when the show is

19:07

actively trying to do it. I mean, they don't

19:09

have to. They didn't have to do this. Yeah,

19:11

but this is part of villain culture too. And

19:13

I mean, it's a weird kind of razor's edge

19:15

you have to walk, because I get it. You

19:18

need your villains, we all need them. But when

19:20

you cut somebody into one

19:22

of these shows and you cut them specifically to make

19:24

them look worse, you are

19:26

telling the fourth audience, hate this person.

19:28

And they'll take whatever they have, their

19:30

innate hatreds of other people

19:32

in real life, they will take those and

19:35

project them onto that person. That's why

19:38

Sydney, who didn't get gains at all,

19:40

is receiving an inordinate amount of, that's

19:43

why we're seeing Rachel get an inordinate amount of

19:45

hate, she doesn't have as many followers as you'd

19:47

think for a final three,

19:50

again, due to racism. Yeah, I

19:52

mean, the racism is just gonna be, I think

19:54

a part of that hatred for people who

19:57

are racist. And obviously our country has a

19:59

problem with that. I've always had a problem with that.

20:01

But I do think there's a way to make these

20:04

shows so that you make the villains fun, like a

20:06

Tierra LaCazzi kind of thing, a Corinne kind of thing.

20:08

And I'm not saying they didn't get hate. I'm sure

20:10

they did. But Corinne also got almost a million Instagram

20:12

followers. I think she's over a million now. And

20:15

the likable villain. Yes. The

20:18

likable villain is the way to go. I

20:20

think moving forward, it really is about like,

20:22

if you're making media, and I

20:24

do think that there is a disconnect

20:26

with like traditional media, TV, movies,

20:28

whatever. I think the people who make

20:30

that shit is like, we make it, it

20:32

gets its ratings, or it has

20:34

its box office or whatever the case may be for a

20:37

movie or TV. And that's it. That's

20:39

all we give a fuck about. We have no obligation

20:41

to the audience that watches our stuff. That

20:44

attitude has to change. If you are

20:46

making media, and part of why it's

20:48

successful is that you have cultivated an audience who comes

20:50

back to it, especially in a show like The Bachelor,

20:52

where it's been around for 20, whatever seasons, there

20:55

is a relationship between the people who make

20:57

the product and the people who

20:59

consume the product. That does exist, whether they

21:01

want to ignore it or not. It's very

21:03

important for Bachelor. I mean, they make a

21:06

huge deal of it with the

21:08

watch parties, etc. And so

21:10

if you want to curb the toxicity in

21:12

the audience, you have to curb the toxicity

21:14

in the product. It's a direct relationship. It

21:16

is reflected back into the audience. If you

21:18

make the show fun, and everybody in it

21:20

is having a good time, even if they're

21:22

fluent, they can joke about it and laugh

21:24

about it, and nobody really is pissed at

21:27

anybody, then your audience isn't going to be pissed at anybody.

21:29

It's clear it's a TV show. That

21:32

too, which they're doing better about. I mean, they're

21:34

adding that in. They're inching into that for sure.

21:37

But that to me is kind of where

21:39

the state of the game is right now. We're at

21:41

this interesting point where all these different reality TVs are

21:43

starting to explode or TV shows, sorry, in third wave.

21:46

And you are seeing like in Traders

21:49

does a great job of it because it's an

21:51

open game. And in the end, people can be

21:53

pissed at each other or whatever. And that kind

21:55

of became a thing in the reunion that like,

21:57

Phaedra really did hate Dan, called trash

22:00

person or something piece. I don't remember what

22:02

she called him. And he's like, what? It

22:04

was a game, Fager. I mean, she's just

22:06

holding her photos with it. Exactly. You know,

22:08

it's like, that's part of the, yeah, how

22:11

Housewives approached the reunion versus the gamer. Yeah.

22:13

But in the end, it's fun, you know?

22:15

I'm so curious how that will develop too.

22:17

I am as well. But I think there

22:19

is room now for this to happen. And

22:21

I do believe that like the producers of

22:23

these shows are responsible for

22:26

the nature of the fandom of those shows

22:28

in one way or another. And

22:30

it's because of how the media is presented. If

22:32

you put the attitude in it that this person

22:34

is a piece of shit. Look, everybody

22:37

hates this person. Your whole audience is

22:39

gonna hate that person and they're gonna

22:41

send them fucking death threats. It's why

22:43

you don't have children come out of

22:45

one of the limo exits and sing

22:47

about how they hate the person who's

22:49

currently the bachelor. Yes, that's correct. If

22:52

you make the show fun, the audience

22:54

will have fun watching it. If

22:56

you make the show not so fun

22:58

for even one person, then that

23:00

person is going to be targeted by the fourth audience.

23:03

It is just how it works. Yeah.

23:06

So I think with a little more care, a

23:08

little more understanding, you can change

23:10

the attitude of the fourth audience so that stuff

23:12

like this is is rarer, I

23:14

will say. I don't know if you could

23:16

ever make it all go away, but... Take

23:19

Golden Bachelor. Exactly. Exactly. Golden Bachelor is a

23:21

perfect example. No one's a villain.

23:23

Kathy is now a host

23:25

of Golden Happy Hour, which we

23:27

will get to. But

23:30

the way Golden approached it was like all of

23:32

these people are great. I would want to see

23:34

a season with all of them as a lead.

23:36

Great. I agree. And so fun. I agree. But

23:39

that's where we are in our state of the

23:41

game. And God, I can't believe we're coming upon

23:43

the 22 year anniversary of

23:45

the premiere of Bachelor season

23:47

one. Feels tough because

23:50

I watched it in real time.

23:52

So I

23:54

know I did too. I remember exactly

23:57

where I was. The couch I was sitting on, the

23:59

apartment I live in. Then every time I

24:01

say the to I've I've like now.

24:04

If I was twelve. Systems. Are

24:07

So now we gotta move on.

24:10

To. Talk about. This.

24:13

League in

24:15

this. Talking. About the

24:17

ratings of the Women Tall: it didn't

24:20

take a thirteen percent dip from the

24:22

prior weeks Fantasy Suite episode with a

24:24

point Five nine and three point four

24:27

million or of yours, but it was

24:29

still a number that beat night one

24:31

of season twenty eight and overall ranked

24:33

right in the middle of all the

24:36

episodes this season, which is rare to

24:38

say the least. For a

24:40

total especially one that aired an hour

24:43

later than the regularly scheduled time due

24:45

to being preemptive I B C by

24:47

Hopers. Hour long as Epic commercial.

24:49

I didn't watch that. That is so strange

24:52

that they made that decision. They got me

24:54

I thought and natural disasters only should be

24:56

pre empt the of our beloved game. They

24:58

got me with the i was like what

25:00

does this and I watched the whole thing

25:03

and it was basically Oprah interviewing. Doctors.

25:05

And users is of a sammich of

25:07

something I mean and other weight loss

25:09

drugs. and it was basically just a

25:12

commercial for all these drugs. Why is

25:14

that preempting? I have no idea. Wilde

25:16

Am, the later time slot was

25:19

good. News is comparatively as our

25:21

beloved game annihilated the competition. Dominating

25:24

the second half. Of a new episode

25:26

of The Voice on Nbc that I've got a

25:28

point four, nine. And Nc I yeah

25:30

sorry, run on Cbs. They got point

25:32

two One: A new episode of see Think

25:34

He Can Dance on Fox I got a

25:37

point one eight. And a rerun

25:39

of Wild Cards on the Cw

25:41

that limped into the competition with

25:43

a boy. oh for. Fucks

25:45

Fox like A point one. A For a

25:48

major broadcast network, I don't know how they're

25:50

keeping the lights on. It's

25:52

like. That's Ross. Point.

25:55

One he. Say.

25:57

lovey you know it's not ross these

26:01

crown gains and the gains

26:04

of Joey's players. Joey

26:06

gained 22k on Instagram this week for

26:08

a total of 576k and he gained 19.5k for a total of

26:10

157.5k followers on TikTok. I'm telling you he's gonna dancing

26:19

with the stars his way to a million

26:22

Instagram followers I believe. Oh he'll

26:24

definitely be dancing. Those boots? Yeah.

26:27

Those boots were made for dancing. He's gonna have to do

26:29

a dance where he's wearing little boots. He

26:31

better have those boots now. Oh shit.

26:33

If anybody has the Joey boots I'd

26:37

love to have them. I'd love to possess

26:39

them. Oh I

26:41

think you I think you could rock it. Moving

26:44

in for our top five Instagram

26:46

gains here. Maria Gorgas

26:48

gained the most with

26:51

24k for her post swansong exit. Women tell

26:53

all bump coming to a total of 535k.

26:55

Second highest gain was Kelsey Anderson.

27:01

She gained 32k for a total of 190k. Rachel Nance

27:03

is in third place gaining 30.8k for

27:08

a total of 58.6k. She

27:12

gained more than half of her followers this

27:14

week. Not even in the 100k. I'm

27:17

not surprised they gave her meaningful

27:20

screen time. Yes it should have been higher

27:22

though in my opinion everybody who watched that

27:25

show should have followed her. I can't

27:27

believe it wasn't the highest. Yeah if

27:29

you haven't followed Rachel Nance yet please follow her. I'll

27:31

just say that simply. Fourth place

27:33

Daisy Kent not

27:36

even in the document gained 19k for a

27:38

total of 514k. Fifth place is Lexa

27:41

Young gaining 10.4k for a total of 73.3k. These were I know

27:43

Rachel's isn't that high but these

27:48

were giant women tell all

27:51

gains. Yeah. I would say often

27:53

people only get hundreds and some

27:55

of the people did but this

27:57

is a good sign. I agree. Now for

27:59

the The top five. Instagram chart

28:01

Friend of Vin Diesel, Maria

28:04

Gorgas finally overtook Daisy. Can't.

28:06

For that top spot with five hundred

28:08

and thirty five k total. And.

28:11

I mean, Daisy got knocked down the

28:13

second place close behind Maria with five

28:15

hundred and fourteen k total. That

28:17

a big drop to third Place: Kelsey

28:20

Anderson One Hundred and Ninety K. And

28:22

that and fourth place. One hundred

28:25

Cajun trend has eighty one point

28:27

a gay Lexi Young and sisters

28:29

seventy three K in outs move

28:31

Automatic doctor who's on top. It's

28:33

Maria Door Gas Three hundred, Twenty Some

28:35

Point Nine case she put on Twenty

28:37

Six Point Seven Cave. This week alone,

28:39

Daisy can sprite behind or two Hundred

28:41

and Ninety Two K. She gained sixteen

28:43

Point Nine K on Tic Toc this

28:45

week, and Kelsey Anderson is in third

28:47

place at one hundred and Forty Four

28:49

Point One K gaining twenty two Point

28:51

Three K this week, fourth place Again,

28:53

Cure Brass, one hundred and Twenty Point

28:55

Five K and Star Skyler bringing up

28:57

the rear. Seventy Seven Point Three K

29:00

can't knock her off this list, no

29:02

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29:04

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29:06

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29:08

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up, Bachelor Nation news, we've got

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a brand new official Bachelor Nation

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podcast on the horizon. As

36:07

we all witness that the women tell all

36:09

this past Monday, Golden Bachelor All-Stars Susan Knowles

36:11

and Kathy Swartz are joining forces to get

36:14

behind the mic as the host of Bachelor

36:17

Happy Hour Golden Hour.

36:20

Woweee! The

36:22

official show description on the podcast

36:25

landing page reads, Golden Bachelor fan

36:27

favorite Susan Knowles and Kathy Swartz

36:30

didn't steal Gary Turner's heart,

36:32

but they did steal the show. Now

36:35

the former cast members are teaming up to

36:37

give Bachelor Nation a brand new solid gold

36:40

podcast about love in every season

36:42

of life. With decades

36:44

of experience in the dating pool,

36:46

they'll be serving up some real

36:49

wisdom about relationships, heartbreak, and even

36:51

sex, because nothing is off-limits for

36:53

these fabulous funds. Tune into the podcast

36:55

starting March 28th and each week after,

36:57

where Kathy and Susan will be joined

36:59

by your favorite Bachelor Nation stars as

37:02

they lean into finding love later in

37:04

life. Cheers to these

37:06

Golden Gals. Right now, you can check

37:08

out about 11 minutes or so of

37:11

Susan and Kathy on the mic in

37:13

a teaser that's available on the podcast

37:15

channel. The first full episode of the

37:17

show will air next Thursday, March 28th,

37:19

wherever you get your podcasts, and new

37:21

episodes are going to come out every

37:23

Wednesday and Friday. You can bet we

37:25

are going to have some clips in

37:28

our next Digging Deeper. I can't wait

37:30

for this. I'm so

37:32

excited. This was,

37:35

I'm so glad I wasn't spoiled for this announcement

37:37

because I literally did a spit take. Oh.

37:40

I was like, what? We're back, baby. We're getting

37:42

another podcast. I know. We're

37:44

not downsizing. We're upsizing. I know.

37:46

I know. No

37:49

offense. Dang. Restore

37:51

Happy Hour to its former prominence. This is

37:53

all I ask. Whoa. I'm

37:56

not fired. Indeed. excited

38:00

for this podcast. It's

38:03

like from the performances during the golden

38:05

wedding, I think they're going to be very good. I do too.

38:08

Up next, in Bachelor Nation News, some

38:11

reality TV show news that is

38:13

set to reshape the landscape of

38:15

third wave reality television. The most

38:17

popular YouTube creator of all time,

38:19

Mr. Beast, AKA Jimmy Donaldson, has

38:21

finalized a deal with Amazon to

38:23

produce the biggest reality competition series

38:25

in the history of humanity after

38:27

a bidding war was fought for

38:29

his property. Project is

38:32

based on his YouTube show entitled

38:34

Beast Games. It will feature 1,000 contestants

38:37

competing for a $5 million

38:39

cash payout, the single

38:41

biggest prize in the history of

38:43

television and streaming, beating out Netflix's

38:46

Squid Game Challenge prize of

38:48

$4.56 million that went to season

38:50

one winner, Mae Whealen,

38:52

in December of last year. Donaldson

38:55

issued a statement saying, my goal is to

38:57

make the greatest show possible and prove YouTubers

38:59

and creators can succeed on other platforms. Amazon

39:02

gave me the creative control I need to

39:04

try and make it happen. I hope to

39:06

make the YouTube community proud. Mr. Beast will

39:08

serve as the show's host and executive producer

39:10

for the show, which will stream on Prime

39:12

Video while continuing to make

39:14

his YouTube series. Donaldson has been

39:16

creating YouTube content since 2016 and has 245

39:19

million subscribers to

39:22

his channel. That's like a country.

39:25

He has created nearly 800 videos,

39:27

many of which are high end productions,

39:29

such as his real life Squid Game

39:31

contest, for example, which racked up 588

39:33

million views. His

39:37

family friendly videos typically feature stunts

39:39

and acts of philanthropy, such as

39:41

paying for cataract surgeries to help

39:43

a thousand blind people see again. He's

39:46

given away millions in food and supplies

39:48

for those in need. He's built his

39:51

own studio for creating content, a $10

39:53

million facility in North Carolina. And

40:00

of course, I'm going to be covering this show in

40:02

Clues Corner, no doubt about it. I think he's doing

40:04

some of the most interesting stuff in reality TV, and

40:06

it's all on YouTube. Now that

40:08

is merging with Amazon. What are

40:10

the competitions? He'll do things

40:13

like, I remember he had a show where he put

40:15

two people in a grocery store, and he said, every

40:17

day that you can survive in this grocery store, like

40:19

they couldn't leave it, you get X

40:21

amount of dollars added onto this prize pool.

40:24

But then when they'd go to sleep, people would come

40:26

into the grocery store and like take out the cereal

40:28

aisle or whatever, shit would just disappear. They'd wake up

40:30

the next morning and be like, what the fuck? So

40:32

it got harder and harder. So they're torturing him. Yeah,

40:35

essentially. Squid games, that was tough. Yeah,

40:38

I didn't watch Squid games. That was torture? Oh,

40:41

Squid games had 456 initial

40:43

competitors, I believe. His show's going to have a thousand.

40:46

So it's, I don't know. I

40:48

don't know what the basis of this is going

40:51

to be. I cannot wait to see what he

40:53

does. Did you watch his YouTube channel? Yeah,

40:55

I've seen a bunch of his stuff. It's

40:57

interesting. Highly recommended. If

41:00

you've ever checked out MrBeast, just go to YouTube and join

41:02

the, what was it? 545 million subscribers. It's

41:07

like more people are watching his shit.

41:09

I only have one real beast. Who's that? And

41:11

her name is Hannah. Oh, more

41:14

people are watching MrBeast's content

41:16

than all network television combined.

41:18

That's wild. Up next in Bachelor

41:21

Nation News, we got some interesting

41:23

tea this week from Bachelor Season

41:25

28, fifth place finisher,

41:27

Kelsey Toussaint. The almost

41:30

hometowner revealed via TikTok that she

41:32

was a paid employee of the

41:34

franchise before she was an unpaid

41:36

player in this season. In

41:39

the TikTok video, Kelsey said, I

41:41

have a little bit of a surprise or a secret. I

41:43

don't know what it is, but the Women Tell

41:45

All was actually a full circle moment for

41:47

me because I used to work on the show.

41:50

Being up there and being on the other

41:52

side was honestly crazy. Life is

41:54

different and it's honestly wild. Kelsey then shared

41:57

a photo from her time working for ABC

41:59

in which She stood next to host Jesse

42:01

Palmer on the Mentel Old Stage of Charity Lawson

42:03

season 20, The Bachelorette. And according to her TikTok

42:05

caption, Kelsey was tapped as

42:07

Charity Lawson's stand-in last year.

42:11

Is stand-in work a new pipeline into

42:13

the player pool? Could

42:15

be. I don't know. Sounds like it. It

42:17

was a mistake. Sounds like

42:19

one pipe got there. I literally didn't even

42:22

know that they have stand-ins for

42:24

Bachelor. Yeah. It's definitely something they do

42:26

in scripted shows where you have people that

42:28

kind of look like the actor

42:32

sit there for lighting and sound

42:34

checks and stuff so the actor isn't on

42:36

set for that long. But isn't that like

42:38

SAG regulated and shit? Like I

42:40

don't think Bachelor is operating under the same

42:43

obligations to union

42:45

rules. Well, I'm so

42:48

curious what her title was. Was

42:50

it stand-in or was it a different job on the

42:52

show and they were just like, hey, can you do

42:54

this? That feels more realistic to

42:56

me, but I have no idea. Now

43:01

we're asking the right question. Up next

43:03

in Bachelor Nation News, perhaps the

43:06

greatest Night One player of all

43:08

time, Hannah Ann Sluss is on

43:10

the road to her wedding with

43:12

NFL player Jake Funk. And

43:14

the first stop was her bridal shower.

43:17

The event took place last Wednesday

43:19

in Knoxville, Tennessee and included 40

43:21

of Fluss and Funk's family and

43:23

friends. The exclusive coverage rights of

43:25

the Funk and Sluss event were

43:28

sold to People Magazine who interviewed

43:30

Funk and Sluss about the occasion.

43:33

When explaining her choice of one

43:35

hotel Nashville for the venue, Sluss

43:37

of Funk and Sluss said, I

43:40

have family there and I spent some time

43:42

there in my early 20s. So

43:44

I thought it was the perfect place, a

43:46

perfect meeting point for old friends, new friends,

43:48

everyone to come together. And it was honestly

43:50

one of the most beautiful days, said Sluss

43:52

of Funk and Sluss. For

43:56

the occasion, Sluss of Funk and Sluss

43:58

collaborated with a lemons. A

44:00

skincare brand and each guest got an

44:03

exclusive swag bag introducing the

44:05

Hannah Ann X Alemus

44:08

Coastal Glow collaboration. Sluss

44:10

of Funkin' Sluss wasn't the only Season 24

44:12

survivor in attendance. Excuse you,

44:14

what? Victoria Fuller made her presence known

44:16

and her support for Sluss of Funkin'

44:18

Sluss. Congrats to Sluss and

44:20

Funk of Sluss and Funkin' Funkin'

44:22

Sluss on taking the next step

44:24

toward holy matrimony. I was hoping

44:26

her bridal shower would be like

44:28

a golf cart race. I

44:32

wanted her to make some more goddamn cookies. I think

44:34

she should sell golf carts. I think she could probably

44:36

sell a lot or cookies. Finally,

44:38

in Bachelor Nation news, Lexi Young

44:41

has revealed some information about an event

44:43

that took place during shooting Bachelor Season

44:45

28 that never made it to

44:47

air. Young told People

44:49

magazine that although it wasn't shown on

44:51

TV, she had to take a trip

44:54

to the emergency room while filming in

44:56

Los Angeles due to her endometriosis. She

44:58

said, quote, I actually ended up going to the

45:00

UCLA hospital while I was on the show. I

45:03

had an ovarian cyst burst because I froze my

45:05

eggs two weeks before going on the show. And

45:07

so my ovaries were so enlarged from all the

45:09

hormones that they hadn't come back down yet. I,

45:12

as someone who has frozen their eggs,

45:14

I literally cannot imagine doing this right

45:17

after freezing my eggs, doing

45:19

the show. Young

45:21

praised the producers for taking good care of her

45:23

and said, I wanted to keep it private, but

45:26

I think it just goes to show it wasn't

45:28

the perfect ride. I was dealing with this the

45:30

entire time. I'm just very headstrong and I powered

45:32

through it. Absolutely incredible. This to me is like

45:35

pro athlete style shit. When somebody has

45:37

like, oh, they, you know, tore

45:39

their NCL and then like two months later,

45:41

they're playing, they're like starting in an

45:43

NFL game. You're like, how that's like superhuman thing.

45:47

She didn't even skip a step. You didn't even know. I

45:49

mean, this wasn't even known. She was

45:51

in the show throughout. Absolutely unbelievable. But

45:53

that's all of the news this week that is fit

45:56

to print. Now it's time to move on to those

45:58

plays. Our favorite players making off the field. is.

46:13

We had a strong contender

46:16

with actor player Standin. Kelsey

46:18

Teese revealed that she was once

46:20

a member of the third audience as

46:22

Charity Lawson's Standin. Christina Mandrell

46:25

and Brayden Bowers sent the fourth audience

46:27

into a tizzy with a series of fake

46:29

wedding reels what looks like

46:31

a white wedding chapel sponsored post.

46:33

I mean, God

46:35

damn it. They're just so good.

46:38

They're so good. They're so good.

46:40

People thought this shit was real. They're going

46:42

to get their own show. I believe

46:44

you're accurate in that. Love

46:47

is Blind Runway, almost bride player,

46:49

Gianina Jabeli made a seven slide

46:51

Instagram post regarding her

46:53

and Blake, aka Bella Kai Horseman

46:55

and their unborn child returning to

46:57

the Love is Blind stages. The

47:00

caption reads quote, bring your

47:02

BF to work day

47:04

was unforgettable. Championship trophy

47:06

emoji. It was wild to be back in

47:09

such a diff stage

47:11

in life to see new friends and

47:13

a entirely new group just

47:15

starting on their journeys. More

47:19

Halo emoji. Shooting

47:23

Star emoji. Sorry. What did you

47:25

think of the season six reunion?

47:29

Lipstick emoji at Anais

47:32

Artistry, woman

47:34

emoji. What is that? Getting

47:37

a haircut. Hair haircut

47:39

emoji at Jess hair

47:41

design and PMU. Dress

47:44

emoji at retrofit at

47:47

Revolve. Heart emoji at Love is Blind.

47:50

I can film a heart one. Love

47:53

is Blind Netflix at kinetic

47:55

content at Baylock Kai dot h

47:58

hundred fifty five K likes. 1k

48:00

comments Congrats on reading

48:03

that you did very well. That

48:05

was a hard one a lot there. Thanks

48:07

loved this post She has two million

48:09

followers. Yeah, Queen Queen shit Naked

48:13

woods cuddler player Jen Tran made

48:15

a rolling your eyes reel under

48:17

the chiron my ex Sliding back

48:19

in after he saw me get my heart

48:21

broken on TV The caption reads

48:23

two plus two equals question mark

48:25

question mark exclamation exclamation dollar sign

48:27

and sign quote exclamation

48:31

point Question mark question mark

48:33

hashtag exit hashtag bachelor six hundred and

48:35

forty seven K views a lot

48:37

of characters were there voodoo and Untameable

48:39

main player Kelsey Anderson made a quick

48:41

tick tock this week recreating herself writing

48:44

the note to Joey the chiron reads

48:46

quote Curating the most perfectly vague note

48:48

and quote as she pretends to write

48:50

in a notebook while listening to someone

48:52

dictate a tick tock Sound the caption

48:54

reads quote. I do solemnly swear. I

48:56

will never be so vague again Laughing

49:00

sweating face emoji. Sorry bachelor nation

49:02

hashtag the bachelor end quote She

49:04

then liked to comment on it

49:06

that read quote. We know the

49:08

producers made you write it Like

49:11

that don't worry end quote We love

49:13

this subtle sub tweet nod to the

49:15

sauce wars by this finalist 19.3

49:18

K likes and 273

49:20

K Views all

49:22

of these were very

49:24

very strong plays. We're in the professional

49:26

era So good

49:28

a treat. However, there

49:30

can only be one winner Who

49:33

our parasocial play of the week goes to? our

49:36

13th crown Rachel Lindsay

49:39

She posted a two-slide Instagram post of

49:41

two photos of her and a very

49:43

famous politician The vice president

49:46

of the United States Kamala Harris

49:48

the caption reads. Thank you for a

49:50

wonderful evening full of insightful conversations at

49:53

BP at Kamala Harris It

49:55

was an honor and looking forward to what

49:57

comes next black heart emoji 21.7k

50:00

likes, 930 comments. While

50:04

her captioned spring cleaning haircut

50:06

post following this got more likes, the

50:09

importance of both genuine Joey

50:11

and B. Rachel Lindsay making

50:13

social media with the people that run

50:15

our country continues to astound us. What

50:18

is she talking about looking forward to what comes next?

50:21

Is Rachel Lindsay gonna be in the fucking

50:23

cabinet? What? I don't know. I

50:26

don't know, I'm ready for it. What comes next?

50:28

That is very, that is an

50:31

interesting line. Seems like they're playing

50:33

on some shit. I don't know. Look,

50:35

it's not like a pose, like a fangirl

50:37

picture. She is in a discourse with

50:39

Kamala Harris in these photos. She is

50:41

wearing a business attire. It is two

50:44

queens together. Yeah, she was there to

50:46

get shit done. This wasn't like, oh

50:48

look, I get to meet the vice

50:50

president. It was like, we need

50:52

to do some shit. I don't know, we'll see. Congrats

50:55

to Rachel Lindsay. She's like, do

50:57

you have any ties to the chiropractor

51:00

industry? She's

51:04

like, I know I'm divorced, but I wanna help out my

51:06

ex-husband. No,

51:09

I love to see everything that Rachel Lindsay does.

51:11

And congrats to her. And congrats to Kamala Harris

51:13

for getting to meet such a superstar. Now

51:15

let's move on to some non-human players.

51:18

This week saw plenty of people across

51:20

the parasocial world celebrating St. Patrick's Day.

51:22

And one of those people was Bachelor

51:24

Season 28 superstar Kelsey Anderson. She

51:27

took to the streets of New Orleans

51:29

to attend the St. Patrick's Day parade

51:31

and to deliver a sixth slide post

51:33

to her main grid featuring images of

51:36

herself having fun with friends, images of

51:38

herself biting into a cabbage. And in

51:40

the sixth slide, we see an unnamed

51:42

hound wearing a green bow tie for

51:44

the occasion. And this unnamed

51:47

canine in Kelsey Anderson's

51:49

sixth slide was our parasocial

51:51

creature of the week. Congrats to

51:53

this canine. Congrats to Kelsey. This

51:55

pup was so cute and his little

51:57

hat looked like Ol' Munchkin. Congrats

52:00

to everyone who survived St.

52:02

Patrick's Day. And now it's

52:05

that time in our program when we

52:07

must descend deep into the pit to

52:09

issue forth our screams.

52:12

This is Screams from the

52:14

Pit! Clues,

52:21

you know how you've spent

52:24

money because of your

52:26

dedication to the bachelor on

52:29

paintings, on artifacts.

52:31

Oh, I was like,

52:33

what are you, yes. I know how I've spent

52:35

money on my dedication to the bachelor. At this

52:37

point, I'm probably $500,000 in the hole. The

52:41

painting by the sloth, the

52:43

art of- The golden

52:45

bachelor jacket that I purchased

52:47

in a back alley

52:49

drug deal style exchange. The

52:52

art of Alex Michelle, et

52:55

cetera. So I would

52:57

say there haven't been that many

52:59

times where I

53:02

have bought stuff. I did,

53:04

you know, I bought a vase from

53:06

the mansion. Yeah. But

53:08

this week, and

53:12

I've maybe bought like a mascara or

53:14

something from an influencer of

53:16

the bachelor. And we collectively have

53:18

bought a black rubberized toilet plunger as

53:21

a wedding gift for the Trout

53:23

Pruitt's. Oh, that's true. Well, that was

53:25

a business expense. That's true.

53:28

Well, I was watching

53:31

fantasy suites and

53:33

I saw the dress that Kelsey Anderson was

53:35

wearing. And I was like, that

53:37

is the most beautiful dress I've ever seen. And

53:40

I bought it. It

53:43

is definitely something that I'm not going to

53:45

be able to wear, I'm sure for

53:47

any occasion. I'm

53:49

sure it will be different

53:52

for certain body types, but

53:55

yeah, this is my scream. I spent $262.

54:00

On a dress you'll never wear. I don't know we'll see

54:04

Well, congratulations see if I

54:06

can get it on Congratulations

54:11

That's a pretty good scream 262

54:13

dollars influence simply because you yeah, you got

54:15

influenced by a bachelor player. I love it.

54:17

Yeah, I looked it up Yeah,

54:21

my scream this week involves as

54:23

sometimes my screams do it

54:25

involves the realm of the Unconscious

54:27

perhaps the realm of the subconscious. I'm of

54:29

course talking about dreams These

54:33

dreams go on when I close my

54:35

eyes You

54:38

know this is what

54:40

dreams are made of

54:42

I know that one Sweet

54:46

dreams are made of these To

54:51

disagree dream

54:53

of Dream on oh,

54:55

that's a good one to dream on. Yeah Aerosmith

54:59

this was my own dream. You may know a

55:01

friend of ours mutual friend Amy Yes,

55:04

I write movies with her sometimes. Yeah, and

55:06

when I'm over at her house and we're

55:08

working on movies Sometimes we go to this

55:10

Starbucks Down the road.

55:12

She likes to get a nice tea take a little

55:14

break. We come back. We get back into it I'm

55:17

having a dream and in the dream

55:20

Amy and I get in her car and

55:22

we start driving to that Starbucks On

55:24

the way back. We pass a small church on

55:27

the right hand side of the road Oh look

55:30

a wedding seems to be happening. You give me your

55:32

assassination coordinates again, please Hey,

55:34

it was a dream that that church isn't even

55:37

real doesn't even exist. Oh, oh, I'm confused I

55:39

thought you were talking about in real life. Yeah,

55:41

no, okay Wait in the dream you're the dream

55:43

church That's not even the thing that if somebody

55:45

thinks they can try and assassinate me in a

55:47

dream dreamscape style Good fucking

55:50

luck bring it you got

55:52

no idea what I can do in dreams But

55:55

what I did in this dream was

55:57

although shit my pants we are Passing

56:00

by this chapel. I look over there

56:02

is a wedding going on the

56:04

wedding is Clay

56:07

and ad from love is blind season

56:09

six. Oh Yeah,

56:12

they broke up on the show. He denied

56:14

the final wedding. Wait, so this is a

56:16

wish fulfillment dream Yes, I am seeing it

56:18

happen and immediately. What do I do in

56:20

the the dream? Take

56:23

out myself I tell her stop the car

56:25

take out my cell phone open the fucking

56:27

door Hit record and just

56:29

run up to them with a video on

56:31

Amy. Follow me record me doing this

56:33

I didn't even care if she came with me in the dream. I was

56:36

like, I don't give a shit if I ever see you Again, I have

56:38

to get this video. I rolled out of the car. Yeah So

56:41

I sprinted out of this car to go take the video and

56:43

this is really like, you know The the end of the memory

56:45

of the dream, but it was so vivid

56:48

and so strange that it like happened as I was

56:50

right You know me and Amy are just taking our

56:52

little Starbucks break and then all of a sudden I'm

56:54

witnessing this wedding that I I wanted

56:56

to happen very badly that did not happen in

56:59

the course of the show my gosh It maybe

57:01

this is part of your healing from that watching

57:03

that relationship. I think it is, you know I've

57:05

learned a lot. It's your brain trying to deal

57:07

with shipping a couple that breaks up Well, I

57:10

think it also might be me starting to shape

57:12

reality. I believe they will now be married because

57:14

of the dream I don't know if that's a

57:16

secondary part of the screen. That's correct. We'll see wait

57:19

what we'll see if it happens or not What you

57:21

wearing the same dress? That

57:23

I don't know I couldn't tell you did they say is

57:26

love blind No, they said

57:28

nothing. They were just surprised that this guy was coming

57:30

out of car sprinting toward them with a camera

57:32

Was was the real wedding in a church? What

57:36

do you mean on the show? Yeah,

57:38

no, it was in like a little cabin like

57:40

a wedding venue. Okay, maybe it's their next

57:42

wedding then it could be keep an eye

57:44

out If they get married still hope I have prophesied

57:46

it in my dream world if they get married You're

57:49

gonna crash that wedding because your future

57:51

self told me I already have already

57:54

crashed it in a astral style Now

57:57

we must move on we have one more scream to

57:59

get to of course if you

58:02

are on our patreon

58:04

at patreon.com/game of roses you

58:06

get access to our discord on

58:09

that discord there is a channel

58:11

called screams dash from dash the

58:13

dash pit you can go into

58:15

that channel and you can upload

58:17

a one minute or shorter audio clip

58:20

and we play the best ones here

58:22

and analyze them today's scream comes to

58:24

us from a member

58:27

of the pit who goes simply

58:29

by SDET 414 are

58:32

you ready for this scream pace case hello

58:34

dark lurid clues empathetic light green peace

58:36

case I am calling with a scream

58:38

that is also a question in mid-april

58:41

to mark my 36 trip around

58:43

the Sun and just because I am

58:45

going on a trip to Amsterdam

58:47

Luxembourg and Brussels I am

58:49

wondering if you can please share from your

58:52

learned archives of our beloved game a list

58:55

of seasons if not episodes specifically

58:57

where the bachelorette and bachelor seasons

58:59

went to those places so that

59:02

I can binge and properly prepare

59:04

for my dark trip I

59:06

started watching the show around Nick Vial the

59:09

alleged great one season so I of course

59:11

know that Rachel Rekia Gabby Wendy Hannah

59:13

Brown and pilot Pete aka Peters pals

59:15

went to those places but I am

59:17

wondering what the other seasons are can

59:20

you please share with me so I

59:22

can do my homework before going on

59:24

my dark trip love you guys happy

59:26

st. Patrick's Day thank you so much

59:29

do you know off the top of your head you've visited

59:31

some of these places well

59:33

first of all I love the name

59:35

empathetic light Queen yeah me

59:38

too hello congratulations thank

59:41

you I've been knighted finally

59:43

look I went to

59:45

the dumping

59:49

bench where Gabby broke up with

59:51

me in the rain in

59:53

Amsterdam it's by the canals but

59:56

she's asking for deeper cuts than that I

59:59

know there was a There

1:00:01

was a date where I want to

1:00:03

say one-on-one date where which was bicycling

1:00:05

through tulip fields. I Would

1:00:08

definitely do that I

1:00:11

think Tulip season

1:00:14

is like April. I want to say I don't

1:00:17

know it might be over a period Was

1:00:19

Greece in this list of places? Oh, I

1:00:21

thought he said Amsterdam. Maybe I was just

1:00:23

think of windmill But which I

1:00:25

associate with yes, she did say Peter that

1:00:27

part of the world But I think that

1:00:29

was in Greece. I believe the famous windmill

1:00:31

the four times windmill I believe

1:00:34

was in Greece mid-april for 36 trip

1:00:37

around the Sun Was that Hannah Brown

1:00:39

in tulips Rachel and Zach were were

1:00:41

in a tulip field? Amsterdam

1:00:43

Luxembourg and Brussels Luxembourg

1:00:47

have they gone there? I don't

1:00:49

know. Hmm. All that

1:00:51

comes up is bachelor programs in

1:00:54

Luxembourg And what was

1:00:56

the other city? Brussels yeah,

1:00:58

Brussels. Hmm. This is hard

1:01:00

to Google. I know Listen

1:01:06

you've stumped us. I Cannot

1:01:08

help you any more than we

1:01:11

already have here. Okay, wait experience

1:01:15

Brussels Belgium like Andy Dorfman on

1:01:18

The Bachelorette Andy

1:01:20

Dorfman traveled to Brussels on season 10 of

1:01:22

The Bachelorette. Here's what how you can experience

1:01:24

the city just like her There's

1:01:27

an article on bachelor nation.com the

1:01:30

Steigen burgers Wilters Hotel

1:01:33

There you go on the exclusive shopping

1:01:35

promenade Avenue Louise in the heart of

1:01:37

Brussels minutes from some of Brussels must-see

1:01:40

Destinations, I mean one-on-one

1:01:42

date get a taste of Brussels, which

1:01:45

is chocolate eating. That's what I would have guessed

1:01:48

Oh Belgian waffles Yum,

1:01:51

I would do that group date Laroon

1:01:54

de montague in on

1:01:57

hi a Belgium Lord

1:02:00

and Old Castle ruined, got on rail

1:02:02

bikes, two bikes with a cart between them that

1:02:04

you pedal along a track. Oh, that's interesting.

1:02:08

Meredsus Abbey Monastery, where monks

1:02:10

live, work, and study. No

1:02:15

kissing allowed in there. I would go there

1:02:17

if you're with a partner. Oh, I remember

1:02:19

the no kissing day. I remember that.

1:02:22

Yeah, very low for the

1:02:24

kiss count. And

1:02:26

Pottery Studio. Oh,

1:02:29

Nick and Andy had dinner in Dinant

1:02:31

and enjoyed fireworks at the end of the night. So you

1:02:33

probably have to go there. See if you can get them

1:02:35

to set up fireworks for you. Really complete the experience. But

1:02:38

there you have it. Pacecase has done some research,

1:02:41

dug out these locations of our beloved

1:02:43

game. Hopefully the dark energies still swirl

1:02:45

there and you can imbibe them during

1:02:47

your journey. Thank you so much for

1:02:49

sending us a screen. Congratulations.

1:02:52

And I think it's tulip season, so definitely

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check that out. The tulips are so

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amazing. Look at that, first-hand experience. I love flowers.

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I have no feeling about them. And it's National

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Flower Day today. You really

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do love flowers, Jesus. Whoa. I

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I cannot wait. And

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