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Catching the Kingpins: 5. Line of Duty

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Catching the Kingpins: 5. Line of Duty

Sunday, 4th February 2024
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0:05

It's the kind of story you might have

0:07

watched in a TV drama. A

0:10

police officer is targeted by an

0:13

organised crime gang looking

0:15

for someone on the inside.

0:18

A corrupt insider inside a police station who can

0:21

run searches for you or give you tip offs.

0:23

That is just how organised crime

0:25

works in the 21st century. In

0:36

2020, the Metropolitan Police come across

0:39

some intel that one of its

0:41

own is working for a gang

0:43

involved in wholesale drug trafficking and

0:46

money laundering. They

0:52

find the clues and messages hacked

0:54

from the EncroChat encrypted phone network.

0:56

That's the criminals network of choice.

1:00

The secret communication system relied on

1:02

by organised criminals to trade drugs

1:05

and firearms has been hacked. It's

1:08

called EncroChat and

1:10

its users think it's uncrackable.

1:13

EncroChat has become a trusted

1:16

and required tool for 10,000

1:18

top level UK criminals. For

1:21

over two months, the messages sent

1:24

by criminals on their EncroChat phones

1:26

have been read by the police. Sometimes

1:30

it was like being in a room with

1:32

them and they are talking freely and they

1:35

don't see them. They're drug dealing,

1:37

they're money laundering. And

1:41

just occasionally, there are boasts about which

1:43

police officers they've got in their pockets.

1:48

I'm Mabin Azar and for BBC

1:50

Sounds, this is Catching the Kingpins,

1:53

the story of the largest

1:55

organised crime bust in British

1:57

policing history. The

2:00

Met opens up about an investigation into

2:03

one of its own offices. For

2:05

the first time, a detective from the

2:08

anti-corruption squad will talk about the case

2:10

in public and explain

2:12

why investigating so-called criminals

2:14

in uniform is one

2:16

of the most secretive jobs in policing. Because

2:19

bank coppers are a danger, not

2:22

just to the public, but to their

2:24

fellow officers. There's always a risk

2:27

when we're investigating people within the organisation. We

2:29

have to be really careful where we go.

2:33

The impact on the safety of the people involved

2:35

in this could be quite serious. One

2:38

of them mentioned that they'd seen my wife and kid

2:40

and knew where I lived. Episode 5, Line

2:42

of Duty. The

2:51

carpool at Stoke Newington Police Station

2:53

in East London. PC

2:56

Gashif Mahmoud jumps into a patrol

2:58

car and screeches off. It's

3:03

Sunday, March 8, 2020. Just

3:06

after 5pm, PC Gashif Mahmoud is

3:08

heading to the meeting. Met

3:11

Detective DI Andy Smith. He

3:13

left Stoke Newington in the afternoon, driven

3:16

a short distance to Stratford in East

3:18

London where he connected an associate of

3:20

his called Ben Gergill. If

3:24

someone Mahmoud likes to work with, Gergill

3:27

gets into the car in uniform and

3:30

off they go. You

3:36

see, Mahmoud has some intel about

3:38

an organised crime gang. A

3:40

bunch of notorious drug dealers will be

3:42

handing over a rucksack full of used

3:44

notes to a courier who'll

3:46

take that money to be laundered. And

3:52

Mahmoud thinks he can trust Gergill to

3:54

help. Mahmoud

3:56

and Gergill race across town to

3:58

Chingford on the outside. skirts of

4:00

East London. It's

4:05

the kind of grab it by the horns

4:08

policing that the bosses at Stolt Newington have

4:10

come to expect from Mafmoud. PC

4:13

Mafmoud had 10 years service in the police.

4:16

He was working as a

4:18

response team officer. We

4:20

know that he was looked up to

4:22

by his colleagues, clearly a more experienced

4:24

officer. Detective Inspector Andy Smith. Many

4:26

of the people he would have worked

4:28

with know that he was

4:31

commended on at least one occasion.

4:33

He's only 31 years old and

4:35

already he's picked up five awards.

4:37

He was a well thought-of officer.

4:40

Mafmoud told friends he decided he wanted to

4:42

join the police after he was stabbed for

4:45

refusing to join a gang. To

4:47

Mafmoud and Gergil, law and order is a

4:50

family affair. Both their

4:52

wives are cops. Mafmoud's brother, Ahmed,

4:54

is an officer too. Both

4:57

are fanatical about the gym. Mafmoud

5:00

likes to flex. In

5:02

one photo he's stripped to the waist,

5:04

side on to the camera so his

5:07

tensed bicep looks as big as possible.

5:09

He's got a smile on his face, kind

5:12

of look how hot I look. All

5:15

that muscle is probably going to be useful

5:17

when trying to catch gangsters in the act.

5:22

On this day in March 2020

5:24

the N-Crow chat hack hasn't happened

5:26

yet. PC Mafmoud

5:28

knows nothing about it. If

5:31

he did it could have made his

5:33

life a whole lot easier. On

5:39

Balcone Road, Chingford, a member of

5:41

a notorious gang called the Khans,

5:44

pulls off in an Audi TT.

5:46

He's carrying a rucksack. He walked over got

5:49

into the Range Rover, he was in there

5:51

for a short time. When he

5:53

got in he was carrying a rucksack. When

5:55

he got out he didn't have the rucksack. just

6:00

handed over the drugs money for

6:02

laundering. Mahmoud

6:04

and Gergel are just too late to

6:06

witness it, but the Range

6:09

Rover, which has just taken delivery of the

6:11

rucksack, is still sitting there. They

6:14

search the car and just as the mall

6:16

predicted, inside that rucksack

6:18

is a bag full of bank

6:20

notes. The courier

6:22

accepts his fate. He's

6:25

not arrested, but the money is

6:27

confiscated. P.C. Mahmoud

6:29

writes down his details. If

6:31

the man in the Range Rover wants to argue

6:33

that the money shouldn't have been taken, he's

6:36

got seven days to contest it. In

6:39

the meantime, he goes free. Watching

6:44

this whole thing unfold are

6:46

a couple of plainclothes detectives in

6:48

an unmarked car. They're

6:51

from the Met's anti-money laundering unit

6:53

and they've had the courier under surveillance.

6:56

They can't believe it when P.C. Mahmoud and

6:59

Gergel, two uniformed cops they've

7:01

never seen before, pull up. Who

7:04

are these guys? More to

7:06

the point. They wondered why the courier hadn't

7:08

been arrested. Yeah, I was wondering

7:10

about that too. So they were

7:12

aware that he was potentially in possession of a

7:14

large amount of money at this stage. Once

7:18

the courier has driven off, the

7:20

detectives from the money laundering unit

7:22

walk over to Mahmoud and Gergel.

7:25

They want to know what's happened to the

7:28

bag of cash. They witnessed the uniform officers

7:30

speaking to the courier and

7:32

having a general nosy around his vehicle. Obviously

7:35

they would expect him to find the bag

7:37

that they'd just seen the male in the

7:39

Audi TT give to him. P.C.

7:42

Mahmoud says it was just a routine

7:44

drug stop. I could smell a

7:46

bit of cannabis, he says, but I

7:48

didn't find any rock sack. That's

7:50

where it started to unravel for Kishif Mahmoud.

7:56

I reckon at this point We

7:58

should get the I. Andy Smith to take a look at the bag. Oh

8:00

you why? he knows how much about the

8:02

case A Pc? Gosh if my mood. I'm

8:05

a detective inspection they anti corruption

8:08

command of the much both Someplace

8:10

like most people that work and

8:12

anti corruption commands as a desire

8:14

to root out those people in

8:16

the organization that were involved in

8:18

criminality wrongdoing. In other words, he's

8:20

the real life version of the

8:22

good guys in line of duty.

8:24

Corrupt. So like is challenging and

8:26

sense that you're investigating people from

8:29

within your own organization. When he

8:31

started to investigate my mood and

8:33

gaggle, one thing immediately stood out.

8:36

According. To the anti money laundering

8:38

cops, the Asian officer at balcony

8:41

Road identified himself as Pc Costs

8:43

if my mood. And

8:45

the whites officer identified himself

8:47

as Pc. Anger gag out.

8:50

Despite his parents and demeanor, guys

8:53

wasn't the police officer. His

8:55

wife was a police officer a was

8:57

a friend of to save money owed

8:59

to part since be a police officer.

9:02

His. Real name is Iron

9:04

Gago not Anger Geico. That's.

9:07

His wife and see is a real

9:09

cop. So. What On Earth is

9:11

going on here? The.

9:13

Clues were being last as you might

9:15

guess and messages being sent on the

9:17

and crowds at network. Because.

9:19

At this stage, the hat of

9:22

this encrypted phone network was still

9:24

so secret. That. The criminals didn't

9:26

know about it. And neither

9:28

did most cops. Including

9:30

Pc Gosh If My Mood, and

9:33

the Anti Corruption Squad. Somewhere

9:39

in Dubai. Or guys, let's

9:41

just him. Mister Big picks

9:43

up his encroach out phone

9:45

and sense the following messages

9:47

to someone in London Can

9:49

do one job tomorrow. Is

9:52

maybe inside the specific part? Has

9:55

to be five hundred k to one the

9:57

damned role and is a message to pass.

10:00

on to whoever is doing the job.

10:02

Tell him to do normal police act,

10:04

don't be cocky, and search the van

10:07

for more money. Mr

10:09

Big texts a post code. It's

10:11

the place where he thinks this vehicle, full

10:14

of cash, is going to be a street

10:16

in Wembley, North London. And

10:19

so the story takes us to yet

10:21

another incident where a driver is stopped

10:24

by an Asian police officer and a

10:26

white officer and has something

10:28

confiscated. Two

10:33

days into the first lockdown of

10:36

2020, a man with a van,

10:38

we're going to call him boiler repair guy,

10:40

walks into Wembley police station. He

10:43

says earlier that day, a

10:45

couple of uniformed police officers, one

10:48

white, one Asian, searched

10:50

him and his van. They

10:52

took his phone, his tools and

10:54

a watch, claiming they were

10:56

stolen goods. They weren't

10:59

stolen, says boiler repair guy. He

11:01

wants his stuff back. He

11:03

doesn't have any names, but he does have

11:05

most of the registration number for the cop

11:08

car. Their initial thoughts were

11:10

that this was probably somebody impersonating the

11:12

police and taking advantage of the COVID

11:14

regulations that have come into place. But

11:17

then the police take a look

11:19

at CCTV footage and find something

11:21

huge. Just

11:24

after boiler repair guy was searched, a

11:26

real police vehicle bombs along the roads

11:29

of Wembley at 93 miles an hour,

11:32

siren on, lights flashing, the whole

11:34

thing. The

11:37

registration plate matches the details

11:39

they've been given by boiler repair guy.

11:41

And it was at that point that

11:43

they reported this incident to the professional

11:45

standards department, which is the

11:47

department that the anti-corruption command sits

11:50

within. The police vehicle had been

11:52

booked out 14 miles away at

11:54

Stolt Newington police station by

11:57

you guessed it, PC gosh, you're from

11:59

a mood. And that's

12:01

when something clicked at the map. As

12:04

soon as that hit the desk, two

12:06

and two was put together. This was

12:08

a very similar incident to that of the

12:10

8th of March involving Kashif Mahmood. On

12:13

the night of the Wembley incident, Mr

12:15

Big in Dubai checks his Enchro chat.

12:18

He's got a message from London. That's the

12:20

final count. You have 450k bro. 450k?

12:26

We have entire UK passing to us

12:28

bro. Although boiler repair guy reported

12:30

that a watch, some tools and a

12:32

phone had been taken from him. The

12:35

police believe a lot of Kash was also taken

12:37

from the van. And from this

12:39

message, it sounds like it could have been 450k. The

12:44

system is in our hand. We can do

12:46

it, unlimited. At

12:50

2.45 in the morning, PC Kashif Mahmood

12:52

gets a knock on the door at

12:54

his house in Harlow, Essex. It's

12:57

the anti-corruption squad. He's in

12:59

bed. His police officer wife

13:01

is also in the house. 40

13:04

miles away in East London, DI

13:06

Andy Smith is at the flat

13:09

that real police officer Inger Gergil

13:11

shares with her fake police officer

13:13

husband, Ian Gergil. It's

13:17

quite non-plus, quite often the case

13:19

in any arrest. He just sat

13:22

there quietly while we conducted the search.

13:25

The most significant findings were at Gergil's

13:27

address where we found

13:29

a Met police stab vest that he'd

13:32

been using to impersonate a police officer

13:34

with Kashish Mahmood. We also

13:37

found a shoe box which contained around

13:39

£11,000 in cash in a wardrobe, I

13:41

believe, in the bedroom which he shared

13:43

with his wife Inger Gergil, who was

13:45

obviously a serving police officer at

13:48

that time. With no evidence at

13:50

that stage at all that she'd been involved in

13:52

any of the offences we were

13:54

investigating, but clearly the fact that

13:56

we found those items in the

13:58

flat that she shared with her. The husband was

14:00

of concern. Since. The

14:02

day that suspicions about my mood

14:05

came to light, the Anti Corruption

14:07

Squad has on earth more evidence

14:09

against him. We. Found that

14:11

to choose the mood that inadvertently

14:13

activated his body warm video camera

14:15

and it was only very shocked

14:17

let the in that clip we

14:20

could see Gurgles sat in the

14:22

passenger seat as the vehicle wiring

14:24

and that place met vestas. they're

14:26

not. Yes, Footage from

14:28

the day. Did seized the bag full

14:31

of cash from a Korea and Singh said

14:33

oh yeah and by the way Pc my

14:35

mood was officially. On. Sick leave

14:37

that day. When. The Anti

14:39

Corruption team took a look at his

14:42

and his wife bank accounts. She's also

14:44

a police officer remember. They. Found

14:46

he had even more questions to

14:48

answer. He was in. Possession.

14:50

Of money beyond the salary that

14:52

he and his wife would have

14:54

been receiving. Nineteenth of October: Twenty

14:57

Nine Hundred cash. Deposit two thousand,

14:59

four hundred pounds into a bank

15:01

account. Twenty Eight says November Twenty

15:03

Nine. Saying this occurs, Deposit two

15:05

thousand Nine hundred pounds in two

15:07

thousand. And to count. Fourteen.

15:09

March. Nine hundred and eighty pounds

15:11

in cash and then a six

15:13

thousand pounds on that day, padding

15:16

cast towards the purchase of a

15:18

Rolex watch. You don't

15:20

get many place of says affording Rolex

15:22

watches. Thousands. And

15:25

thousands of pounds and suspicious transactions

15:27

of a five month period. The.

15:30

Anti Corruption Unit think they know the

15:32

score. My. Mood is moonlighting

15:34

for the con gang. There.

15:36

Were family from. And. Then not

15:39

nice guys. Between. Them three

15:41

of the com brothers of convictions

15:43

for firearms and drugs. The.

15:46

Unit reckon muff mood and

15:48

cons are old friends. We.

15:50

Don't know for certain, but we believe

15:53

they may have known each other since

15:55

childhood school days The com brothers were

15:57

brought up in Force Gate nice London.

16:00

Not. Too far away from my Pc

16:02

mood was brought up. The cans

16:04

were involved in criminality and drug

16:06

dealers. The. Theory is that when

16:08

the cons hand their drug money over

16:11

to be laundered the tip off pc

16:13

my mood about it and then he

16:15

turns up in police uniform pretends to

16:17

cats the money launderer as. Well,

16:20

in fact, he's to stating the money back

16:22

for the cons and getting a cop for

16:24

himself. presumably. The

16:26

Cons: Money launderers would be worried that there

16:28

were now in debt to the cons for

16:30

all the money that been confiscated from their

16:32

Korea. And this more

16:34

evident some of mood the anti corruption

16:36

unit see he's been using the National

16:39

Police database to check if any details

16:41

are held on a Northwest Londoner who

16:43

moved to the By in twenty sustain.

16:46

So. What reason would a cop in

16:48

East London have for looking up someone

16:50

with no connection say is Pat. Sensing.

16:53

This Intel database for non police

16:56

business is in itself a criminal

16:58

offense. Now. At this point

17:00

the Anti Corruption Squad still don't have

17:02

the full picture. Pc. Muff

17:04

mood knows though. The. If he

17:06

puts his hands up and he spills the

17:09

beans, he's likely to get a reduced sentence.

17:11

But. He decides instead to gamble

17:13

on the police not finding enough

17:15

evidence. Season. A new

17:18

that sleep supplied what with Conrad

17:20

prepared statement whereby he gives an

17:22

account virus statement that he drove

17:24

up with his solicitor and then

17:26

he chose to. No. Answer

17:29

questions about that account and the

17:31

interview. I've got an extract

17:33

from his statement in front of me, so

17:35

keep in mind my mood doesn't know at

17:37

this point that the police. Have connected

17:39

him to the cons. So. This

17:41

is what he says about the allegation. That.

17:44

He nicked criminal cast. In.

17:47

Chingford and Wembley. I. Vehemently

17:49

denied committing any test on

17:51

either occasion. I, however, except

17:54

the I was involved in the

17:56

two incidents. His. Defenses that

17:58

he was acting under do. After

18:00

being stopped in the street by a couple

18:02

of Asian men he'd never met before, The.

18:06

First two male was holding on to

18:08

his waistband. And looked like he might

18:10

be hiding something. Hinting: To a

18:12

gun or a nice. He sent to

18:14

me. Don't have profound or of

18:16

Capua up. A took that

18:18

as a threat that and shoot me. The

18:21

males told me he wanted me to do

18:24

something for them. The. New a

18:26

lot about me or my family. Including

18:28

the police officer from for

18:30

his gait. One of the

18:32

mentioned. That seen mobilise. Kid.

18:36

And they knew where he lived. In.

18:50

Alpha my son Macys not just

18:52

any old heart of Belfast gave

18:55

out of with Lecter series disseminate

18:57

guys don't think is it every

18:59

sale and my body was just

19:01

let up. Salad bar was dime

19:03

Bradshaw will happen next. Could go

19:05

on to threaten peace in Northern

19:07

Ireland's. One of

19:09

the few gay police officers in

19:11

the country that someone tools them

19:14

for democrats it was going to

19:16

be murdered story. For

19:19

his own skin he traded

19:21

star entice madame sort listen

19:24

i really precise. But.

19:27

Validate was pack of lies. We.

19:30

Know that to save money owed. Traveled

19:32

sued by with the com brothers. the

19:35

said the evidence from airline said they

19:37

were all in to buy together at

19:39

the same time in late summer of

19:42

Twenty nineteen. There are even photographs of

19:44

Must Move hanging out with the con

19:46

brothers. There's one

19:48

of them drinking cocktails at some

19:50

rooftop bar much since he i

19:52

think and short set all of

19:55

them. Proper holiday mode

19:57

this is hanging out with your friends

19:59

and then is another one of my

20:01

mood with the com brothers on a

20:03

trip to the deserts. There's a lot

20:06

of stuff here. I'm it. Dissipates

20:09

shot in the desert. The standing there

20:11

in their sights. They just look like

20:13

boys on tour. This is a holiday

20:15

for them. There's no effort whatsoever to

20:17

hide the fact that the got relationship.

20:20

there's a lot on this guy. Got

20:23

remember though. That. The Crown Prosecution

20:26

Service, They need more than

20:28

that. They need to be able to prove.

20:31

That he was working for the cons of his

20:33

own free will. And also they want

20:35

to be able to prove that he was getting paid for it. So.

20:38

At this point, Muff Mood and

20:40

his mate i own Geico a

20:42

lot out on bail. In

20:46

Dubai Mister Big picks up his

20:48

encroachment phone does a message from

20:50

the con gang to say they're

20:52

friendly police officer for the referred

20:54

to as mates he has been

20:57

arrested. For. Chingford

20:59

job at was trying

21:01

to. Via

21:06

encroach at Mister Big Tax

21:08

to ask if is Pat

21:10

police officer has given himself

21:12

away by splashing. The cast

21:14

is a good question. Six

21:16

thousand pounds because towards the

21:18

Rolex Watch. A

21:20

message pings back spot watch but

21:23

don't think they got that and

21:25

then later. On watches

21:27

but they didn't take them. The

21:29

left the rich mail and Daytona.

21:31

A new Rolex Daytona watch costs

21:33

tens of thousands of pounds. A

21:35

new Richard Mille what can cost

21:37

at least eighty five thousand dollars

21:39

and that's way more than a

21:41

Pc ends in a yeah. Mister

21:44

Big and the cons are relieved. That.

21:46

The watches don't appear to have been

21:49

spotted during the raid on Pc. Muff

21:51

Moods House said just like that. This

21:53

thought the plot the next robbery. The.

21:58

arrest a pc gushy from of

22:00

mood happens in April 2020 after

22:02

the police have hacked the Enchrochat

22:05

network. But like I

22:07

said, this is before the criminals,

22:09

and most police officers, realised the

22:11

network had been compromised. It

22:14

isn't until June that the people

22:16

behind Enchrochat realise what's happened. Today

22:18

we had our domain seized illegally

22:21

by government entities. Due

22:23

to the level of sophistication of the attack

22:25

and the malware code, we can no longer

22:27

guarantee the security of your device. You're

22:30

advised to power off and physically dispose

22:32

of your device immediately. DI

22:35

Andy Smith, an anti-corruption cop

22:37

who wasn't in on the

22:39

original Enchrochat investigation, sees an

22:41

opportunity. The Khan brothers are just

22:43

the kind of guys to use Enchrochat.

22:46

He contacts the team wading through the

22:48

Enchrochat messages and they identify a handle

22:51

being used by the Khans. There's a

22:53

lot of back and forth in the

22:55

messages with someone in Dubai, and it's

22:58

clear that he used to live in

23:00

Oxbridge. The police work

23:02

out that the Dubai guy has

23:04

the same name PC Khashif Mahmoud

23:06

was searching for on the police

23:08

national database. It looks as

23:11

if PC Khashif Mahmoud was trying to

23:13

find out what the police had on

23:15

Mr Big in Dubai. It gave

23:17

us the missing pieces of the jigsaw. The

23:20

evidence of the cash that we had

23:22

been missing was all set

23:24

out within the Enchrochat. It

23:27

has to be 500k to 1 mil

23:29

bro. That's the final count. You have

23:31

450k bro. Everything clicks. DI

23:35

Smith can see the robberies being

23:37

planned and discussion of a police

23:39

officer being involved. Tell him to

23:41

do normal police act. Don't

23:44

be cocky. Search the van for

23:46

more money. Within the Enchrochat

23:48

they referred to Khashif as cash the

23:50

fed and matey. Whether

23:52

they were using the term matey to

23:54

try not to refer to him by

23:56

his real identity. I don't know but obviously if you're going

23:59

to use cash. The Fed. Doesn't

24:02

help the I met could see

24:04

in the messages the cons and

24:07

Mister Big into by discussing the

24:09

implications of my moods arrest for

24:11

Chingford at Wembley job it was

24:13

great concern about whether to shape

24:15

the mood. Had lots of cash

24:17

around his house where the read

24:20

purchased anything expensive that was around

24:22

the house and watches was one

24:24

of the things mentioned. Which

24:29

Mail. That

24:32

clearly demonstrated to is that

24:34

mood and honestly from activity

24:37

that had been undertaken with

24:39

the Counts. And

24:44

that's why Pc consciousness mood is in

24:46

the first wave of painful to arrest.

24:48

And from a twenty twenty. Not

24:51

everything but in my defense

24:53

influenced and companies would smoke

24:55

some laws, codes and do

24:57

so many given in evidence.

25:01

That was a load of ordinary mobile

25:03

phone data that put my mood at

25:05

the same time and place as the

25:07

cons and the steel box games. But.

25:10

It was when my mood so all the

25:12

and quota evidence against him. That. He

25:14

decided to plead guilty. He

25:16

was convicted alongside the com brothers

25:18

and I and Geico. And. Was

25:20

sentenced to eight years in prison. His.

25:23

Fake police officer friend I and

25:25

gaggle got six years. The

25:27

com Brothers, or upwards of fourteen

25:29

years each. The. Guy recording

25:31

Mister Big in Dubai remains as

25:33

far as we know at large.

25:36

His. And quarter phone is probably at the

25:38

bottom of to see. As

25:40

for Pc My moods police officer

25:42

Weiss, she was dismissed from the

25:44

police without notice and pled guilty

25:47

to concealing criminal property. And. Was

25:49

given a twenty month suspended sentence.

25:52

And. Order to carry out a hundred and

25:54

fifty hours of unpaid work. And.

25:56

I and goggles wife. Also. A

25:58

serving police officer was. Mr for

26:00

gross misconduct. The. Turning a

26:03

blind eye to eye Husband's

26:05

criminality is the most brazen

26:07

corruption. I've seen

26:09

in my time investigating have been

26:11

five years. I'm anti corruption c'mon

26:13

now an Asda say the most

26:16

bold and brazen I've seen. Detective.

26:19

Chief Inspector Dress Hi you Kane I

26:22

met police officer has been my guide

26:24

through the story. He's. One of

26:26

the offices leading this whole and quota

26:28

operation for the Metropolitan Police. And

26:30

what did the and quarter of course and tell you about.

26:33

The. Scale of a police corruption.

26:35

Just. How little was on

26:37

Baxley? A. In

26:40

I was one of our

26:42

ports as Isis was corruption

26:44

isn't allocates. will come sit,

26:46

sit for the Mets data

26:48

but I was surprised that

26:51

there wasn't more. Police

26:54

corruption isn't the only uncomfortable issue

26:56

that encroach as thrown up for

26:58

law enforcement and our next episode

27:00

by going to be getting the

27:03

latest on the thing that could

27:05

derail the whole and Croucher operation

27:07

yes is a sin that the

27:09

National Crime Agency applied for the

27:11

wrong type of warrants towards their

27:14

applied for with the make it

27:16

legit to accept hack the material

27:18

from the French but lawyers hired

27:20

by some of the accused a

27:22

saying it wasn't. A hack. It

27:24

was an intercept and that has must

27:27

have implications. What I do know is

27:29

if it's intercepted evidence, it can't be

27:31

used in a court of law. Be

27:33

up to secure a conviction. See us

27:36

in some cases. If you take the

27:38

anchorage as way there isn't much of

27:40

a case. That's a real problem Said

27:42

to me scores of dangerous man out

27:44

and to be let back else on

27:47

the seats you can hear the episode.

27:49

In fact you can hear the whole

27:51

series now on Bbc sounds. I'm

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a been is our and you been listening

27:58

to Catching The Kingpins The story. The

28:00

biggest organized crime in

28:02

British Policing history. It's

28:05

a BBC studio's production for BBC

28:07

Sounds, the series pretty sad with

28:09

Andrew Hoskin and the executive producer

28:11

was in his bow. Touching

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on Bbc Sounds. People

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he used. A terrorist attack to run

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weeks is chemo and I have no

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Gangster presents... A 6-part true crime podcast documenting the biggest organised crime bust in British policing history. It happens in 2020 when police in France penetrate an encrypted phone network called EncroChat. According to police, the phones were used exclusively by criminals. For over two months, police forces across Europe were reading the secret communications of major league criminal networks. The Metropolitan Police, working with the National Crime Agency and other forces, used this information to uncover the workings of organised crime groups. “It was like being in a room with them and they are talking freely, and they don't see you there,” says DCI Driss Hayoukane, the Senior Investigating Officer who led the Met’s EncroChat operation. Police went public about the EncroChat hack in July 2020. This is the first time that the inside story of some of the Met’s biggest EncroChat cases has been told to a broadcaster. Talking exclusively to BBC Sounds, police officers reveal how they used the gangsters’ messages to uncover arms dealing and expose murder plots as well as major drug trafficking and money laundering operations. Stories featured in the series include: - A murder plot unearthed by the Met in a joint operation with South Wales police. - Two apparently legitimate businessmen, living in a Buckinghamshire village, whose wealth really came from cocaine trafficking and major league money laundering, - A corrupt police officer who was working for a notorious London crime group. At a time when the Metropolitan Police Service has been in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, it’s a rare story of an extraordinary success: nearly 1000 arrests; over 400 convictions; the seizure of £19 million in cash, three tonnes of Class A and B drugs and 49 guns. But presenter Mobeen Azhar does not shy away from what have been difficult issues for the Met police: an officer from the Met’s anti-corruption unit speaks for the first time about how hacked EncroChat messages helped to expose the worst case of police corruption he had ever seen; and Mobeen asks the officer leading theMet’s EncroChat investigation about the experience of being an ethnic minority officer in a force found to be institutionally racist. Catching the Kingpins is a BBC Studios Production for BBC Sounds. Presenter: Mobeen Azhar Series Producer: Andrew Hosken Editor and Executive Producer: Innes Bowen Sound designer: Peregrine Andrews Assistant Commissioner: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor: Louise Kattenhorn Production Executive: Laura Jordan-Rowell Creative Director for BBC Studios: Georgia Moseley Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister Production manager: Elaina Boateng Development Executive: Anya Saunders Editorial Policy Advice: Su Pennington Legal advice: Hashim Mude and Andrew Downey Consulting editor: Steve BoultonProduction Co-ordinator: Juliette Harvey Thanks also to Beena Khetani, Adele Humbert, Hugh Levinson, Ali Rezakhani, Rhiannon Cobb, and Jack Griffith.

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