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It's the kind of story you might have
0:07
watched in a TV drama. A
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police officer is targeted by an
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organised crime gang looking
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for someone on the inside.
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A corrupt insider inside a police station who can
0:21
run searches for you or give you tip offs.
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That is just how organised crime
0:25
works in the 21st century. In
0:36
2020, the Metropolitan Police come across
0:39
some intel that one of its
0:41
own is working for a gang
0:43
involved in wholesale drug trafficking and
0:46
money laundering. They
0:52
find the clues and messages hacked
0:54
from the EncroChat encrypted phone network.
0:56
That's the criminals network of choice.
1:00
The secret communication system relied on
1:02
by organised criminals to trade drugs
1:05
and firearms has been hacked. It's
1:08
called EncroChat and
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its users think it's uncrackable.
1:13
EncroChat has become a trusted
1:16
and required tool for 10,000
1:18
top level UK criminals. For
1:21
over two months, the messages sent
1:24
by criminals on their EncroChat phones
1:26
have been read by the police. Sometimes
1:30
it was like being in a room with
1:32
them and they are talking freely and they
1:35
don't see them. They're drug dealing,
1:37
they're money laundering. And
1:41
just occasionally, there are boasts about which
1:43
police officers they've got in their pockets.
1:48
I'm Mabin Azar and for BBC
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Sounds, this is Catching the Kingpins,
1:53
the story of the largest
1:55
organised crime bust in British
1:57
policing history. The
2:00
Met opens up about an investigation into
2:03
one of its own offices. For
2:05
the first time, a detective from the
2:08
anti-corruption squad will talk about the case
2:10
in public and explain
2:12
why investigating so-called criminals
2:14
in uniform is one
2:16
of the most secretive jobs in policing. Because
2:19
bank coppers are a danger, not
2:22
just to the public, but to their
2:24
fellow officers. There's always a risk
2:27
when we're investigating people within the organisation. We
2:29
have to be really careful where we go.
2:33
The impact on the safety of the people involved
2:35
in this could be quite serious. One
2:38
of them mentioned that they'd seen my wife and kid
2:40
and knew where I lived. Episode 5, Line
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of Duty. The
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carpool at Stoke Newington Police Station
2:53
in East London. PC
2:56
Gashif Mahmoud jumps into a patrol
2:58
car and screeches off. It's
3:03
Sunday, March 8, 2020. Just
3:06
after 5pm, PC Gashif Mahmoud is
3:08
heading to the meeting. Met
3:11
Detective DI Andy Smith. He
3:13
left Stoke Newington in the afternoon, driven
3:16
a short distance to Stratford in East
3:18
London where he connected an associate of
3:20
his called Ben Gergill. If
3:24
someone Mahmoud likes to work with, Gergill
3:27
gets into the car in uniform and
3:30
off they go. You
3:36
see, Mahmoud has some intel about
3:38
an organised crime gang. A
3:40
bunch of notorious drug dealers will be
3:42
handing over a rucksack full of used
3:44
notes to a courier who'll
3:46
take that money to be laundered. And
3:52
Mahmoud thinks he can trust Gergill to
3:54
help. Mahmoud
3:56
and Gergill race across town to
3:58
Chingford on the outside. skirts of
4:00
East London. It's
4:05
the kind of grab it by the horns
4:08
policing that the bosses at Stolt Newington have
4:10
come to expect from Mafmoud. PC
4:13
Mafmoud had 10 years service in the police.
4:16
He was working as a
4:18
response team officer. We
4:20
know that he was looked up to
4:22
by his colleagues, clearly a more experienced
4:24
officer. Detective Inspector Andy Smith. Many
4:26
of the people he would have worked
4:28
with know that he was
4:31
commended on at least one occasion.
4:33
He's only 31 years old and
4:35
already he's picked up five awards.
4:37
He was a well thought-of officer.
4:40
Mafmoud told friends he decided he wanted to
4:42
join the police after he was stabbed for
4:45
refusing to join a gang. To
4:47
Mafmoud and Gergil, law and order is a
4:50
family affair. Both their
4:52
wives are cops. Mafmoud's brother, Ahmed,
4:54
is an officer too. Both
4:57
are fanatical about the gym. Mafmoud
5:00
likes to flex. In
5:02
one photo he's stripped to the waist,
5:04
side on to the camera so his
5:07
tensed bicep looks as big as possible.
5:09
He's got a smile on his face, kind
5:12
of look how hot I look. All
5:15
that muscle is probably going to be useful
5:17
when trying to catch gangsters in the act.
5:22
On this day in March 2020
5:24
the N-Crow chat hack hasn't happened
5:26
yet. PC Mafmoud
5:28
knows nothing about it. If
5:31
he did it could have made his
5:33
life a whole lot easier. On
5:39
Balcone Road, Chingford, a member of
5:41
a notorious gang called the Khans,
5:44
pulls off in an Audi TT.
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He's carrying a rucksack. He walked over got
5:49
into the Range Rover, he was in there
5:51
for a short time. When he
5:53
got in he was carrying a rucksack. When
5:55
he got out he didn't have the rucksack. just
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handed over the drugs money for
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laundering. Mahmoud
6:04
and Gergel are just too late to
6:06
witness it, but the Range
6:09
Rover, which has just taken delivery of the
6:11
rucksack, is still sitting there. They
6:14
search the car and just as the mall
6:16
predicted, inside that rucksack
6:18
is a bag full of bank
6:20
notes. The courier
6:22
accepts his fate. He's
6:25
not arrested, but the money is
6:27
confiscated. P.C. Mahmoud
6:29
writes down his details. If
6:31
the man in the Range Rover wants to argue
6:33
that the money shouldn't have been taken, he's
6:36
got seven days to contest it. In
6:39
the meantime, he goes free. Watching
6:44
this whole thing unfold are
6:46
a couple of plainclothes detectives in
6:48
an unmarked car. They're
6:51
from the Met's anti-money laundering unit
6:53
and they've had the courier under surveillance.
6:56
They can't believe it when P.C. Mahmoud and
6:59
Gergel, two uniformed cops they've
7:01
never seen before, pull up. Who
7:04
are these guys? More to
7:06
the point. They wondered why the courier hadn't
7:08
been arrested. Yeah, I was wondering
7:10
about that too. So they were
7:12
aware that he was potentially in possession of a
7:14
large amount of money at this stage. Once
7:18
the courier has driven off, the
7:20
detectives from the money laundering unit
7:22
walk over to Mahmoud and Gergel.
7:25
They want to know what's happened to the
7:28
bag of cash. They witnessed the uniform officers
7:30
speaking to the courier and
7:32
having a general nosy around his vehicle. Obviously
7:35
they would expect him to find the bag
7:37
that they'd just seen the male in the
7:39
Audi TT give to him. P.C.
7:42
Mahmoud says it was just a routine
7:44
drug stop. I could smell a
7:46
bit of cannabis, he says, but I
7:48
didn't find any rock sack. That's
7:50
where it started to unravel for Kishif Mahmoud.
7:56
I reckon at this point We
7:58
should get the I. Andy Smith to take a look at the bag. Oh
8:00
you why? he knows how much about the
8:02
case A Pc? Gosh if my mood. I'm
8:05
a detective inspection they anti corruption
8:08
command of the much both Someplace
8:10
like most people that work and
8:12
anti corruption commands as a desire
8:14
to root out those people in
8:16
the organization that were involved in
8:18
criminality wrongdoing. In other words, he's
8:20
the real life version of the
8:22
good guys in line of duty.
8:24
Corrupt. So like is challenging and
8:26
sense that you're investigating people from
8:29
within your own organization. When he
8:31
started to investigate my mood and
8:33
gaggle, one thing immediately stood out.
8:36
According. To the anti money laundering
8:38
cops, the Asian officer at balcony
8:41
Road identified himself as Pc Costs
8:43
if my mood. And
8:45
the whites officer identified himself
8:47
as Pc. Anger gag out.
8:50
Despite his parents and demeanor, guys
8:53
wasn't the police officer. His
8:55
wife was a police officer a was
8:57
a friend of to save money owed
8:59
to part since be a police officer.
9:02
His. Real name is Iron
9:04
Gago not Anger Geico. That's.
9:07
His wife and see is a real
9:09
cop. So. What On Earth is
9:11
going on here? The.
9:13
Clues were being last as you might
9:15
guess and messages being sent on the
9:17
and crowds at network. Because.
9:19
At this stage, the hat of
9:22
this encrypted phone network was still
9:24
so secret. That. The criminals didn't
9:26
know about it. And neither
9:28
did most cops. Including
9:30
Pc Gosh If My Mood, and
9:33
the Anti Corruption Squad. Somewhere
9:39
in Dubai. Or guys, let's
9:41
just him. Mister Big picks
9:43
up his encroach out phone
9:45
and sense the following messages
9:47
to someone in London Can
9:49
do one job tomorrow. Is
9:52
maybe inside the specific part? Has
9:55
to be five hundred k to one the
9:57
damned role and is a message to pass.
10:00
on to whoever is doing the job.
10:02
Tell him to do normal police act,
10:04
don't be cocky, and search the van
10:07
for more money. Mr
10:09
Big texts a post code. It's
10:11
the place where he thinks this vehicle, full
10:14
of cash, is going to be a street
10:16
in Wembley, North London. And
10:19
so the story takes us to yet
10:21
another incident where a driver is stopped
10:24
by an Asian police officer and a
10:26
white officer and has something
10:28
confiscated. Two
10:33
days into the first lockdown of
10:36
2020, a man with a van,
10:38
we're going to call him boiler repair guy,
10:40
walks into Wembley police station. He
10:43
says earlier that day, a
10:45
couple of uniformed police officers, one
10:48
white, one Asian, searched
10:50
him and his van. They
10:52
took his phone, his tools and
10:54
a watch, claiming they were
10:56
stolen goods. They weren't
10:59
stolen, says boiler repair guy. He
11:01
wants his stuff back. He
11:03
doesn't have any names, but he does have
11:05
most of the registration number for the cop
11:08
car. Their initial thoughts were
11:10
that this was probably somebody impersonating the
11:12
police and taking advantage of the COVID
11:14
regulations that have come into place. But
11:17
then the police take a look
11:19
at CCTV footage and find something
11:21
huge. Just
11:24
after boiler repair guy was searched, a
11:26
real police vehicle bombs along the roads
11:29
of Wembley at 93 miles an hour,
11:32
siren on, lights flashing, the whole
11:34
thing. The
11:37
registration plate matches the details
11:39
they've been given by boiler repair guy.
11:41
And it was at that point that
11:43
they reported this incident to the professional
11:45
standards department, which is the
11:47
department that the anti-corruption command sits
11:50
within. The police vehicle had been
11:52
booked out 14 miles away at
11:54
Stolt Newington police station by
11:57
you guessed it, PC gosh, you're from
11:59
a mood. And that's
12:01
when something clicked at the map. As
12:04
soon as that hit the desk, two
12:06
and two was put together. This was
12:08
a very similar incident to that of the
12:10
8th of March involving Kashif Mahmood. On
12:13
the night of the Wembley incident, Mr
12:15
Big in Dubai checks his Enchro chat.
12:18
He's got a message from London. That's the
12:20
final count. You have 450k bro. 450k?
12:26
We have entire UK passing to us
12:28
bro. Although boiler repair guy reported
12:30
that a watch, some tools and a
12:32
phone had been taken from him. The
12:35
police believe a lot of Kash was also taken
12:37
from the van. And from this
12:39
message, it sounds like it could have been 450k. The
12:44
system is in our hand. We can do
12:46
it, unlimited. At
12:50
2.45 in the morning, PC Kashif Mahmood
12:52
gets a knock on the door at
12:54
his house in Harlow, Essex. It's
12:57
the anti-corruption squad. He's in
12:59
bed. His police officer wife
13:01
is also in the house. 40
13:04
miles away in East London, DI
13:06
Andy Smith is at the flat
13:09
that real police officer Inger Gergil
13:11
shares with her fake police officer
13:13
husband, Ian Gergil. It's
13:17
quite non-plus, quite often the case
13:19
in any arrest. He just sat
13:22
there quietly while we conducted the search.
13:25
The most significant findings were at Gergil's
13:27
address where we found
13:29
a Met police stab vest that he'd
13:32
been using to impersonate a police officer
13:34
with Kashish Mahmood. We also
13:37
found a shoe box which contained around
13:39
£11,000 in cash in a wardrobe, I
13:41
believe, in the bedroom which he shared
13:43
with his wife Inger Gergil, who was
13:45
obviously a serving police officer at
13:48
that time. With no evidence at
13:50
that stage at all that she'd been involved in
13:52
any of the offences we were
13:54
investigating, but clearly the fact that
13:56
we found those items in the
13:58
flat that she shared with her. The husband was
14:00
of concern. Since. The
14:02
day that suspicions about my mood
14:05
came to light, the Anti Corruption
14:07
Squad has on earth more evidence
14:09
against him. We. Found that
14:11
to choose the mood that inadvertently
14:13
activated his body warm video camera
14:15
and it was only very shocked
14:17
let the in that clip we
14:20
could see Gurgles sat in the
14:22
passenger seat as the vehicle wiring
14:24
and that place met vestas. they're
14:26
not. Yes, Footage from
14:28
the day. Did seized the bag full
14:31
of cash from a Korea and Singh said
14:33
oh yeah and by the way Pc my
14:35
mood was officially. On. Sick leave
14:37
that day. When. The Anti
14:39
Corruption team took a look at his
14:42
and his wife bank accounts. She's also
14:44
a police officer remember. They. Found
14:46
he had even more questions to
14:48
answer. He was in. Possession.
14:50
Of money beyond the salary that
14:52
he and his wife would have
14:54
been receiving. Nineteenth of October: Twenty
14:57
Nine Hundred cash. Deposit two thousand,
14:59
four hundred pounds into a bank
15:01
account. Twenty Eight says November Twenty
15:03
Nine. Saying this occurs, Deposit two
15:05
thousand Nine hundred pounds in two
15:07
thousand. And to count. Fourteen.
15:09
March. Nine hundred and eighty pounds
15:11
in cash and then a six
15:13
thousand pounds on that day, padding
15:16
cast towards the purchase of a
15:18
Rolex watch. You don't
15:20
get many place of says affording Rolex
15:22
watches. Thousands. And
15:25
thousands of pounds and suspicious transactions
15:27
of a five month period. The.
15:30
Anti Corruption Unit think they know the
15:32
score. My. Mood is moonlighting
15:34
for the con gang. There.
15:36
Were family from. And. Then not
15:39
nice guys. Between. Them three
15:41
of the com brothers of convictions
15:43
for firearms and drugs. The.
15:46
Unit reckon muff mood and
15:48
cons are old friends. We.
15:50
Don't know for certain, but we believe
15:53
they may have known each other since
15:55
childhood school days The com brothers were
15:57
brought up in Force Gate nice London.
16:00
Not. Too far away from my Pc
16:02
mood was brought up. The cans
16:04
were involved in criminality and drug
16:06
dealers. The. Theory is that when
16:08
the cons hand their drug money over
16:11
to be laundered the tip off pc
16:13
my mood about it and then he
16:15
turns up in police uniform pretends to
16:17
cats the money launderer as. Well,
16:20
in fact, he's to stating the money back
16:22
for the cons and getting a cop for
16:24
himself. presumably. The
16:26
Cons: Money launderers would be worried that there
16:28
were now in debt to the cons for
16:30
all the money that been confiscated from their
16:32
Korea. And this more
16:34
evident some of mood the anti corruption
16:36
unit see he's been using the National
16:39
Police database to check if any details
16:41
are held on a Northwest Londoner who
16:43
moved to the By in twenty sustain.
16:46
So. What reason would a cop in
16:48
East London have for looking up someone
16:50
with no connection say is Pat. Sensing.
16:53
This Intel database for non police
16:56
business is in itself a criminal
16:58
offense. Now. At this point
17:00
the Anti Corruption Squad still don't have
17:02
the full picture. Pc. Muff
17:04
mood knows though. The. If he
17:06
puts his hands up and he spills the
17:09
beans, he's likely to get a reduced sentence.
17:11
But. He decides instead to gamble
17:13
on the police not finding enough
17:15
evidence. Season. A new
17:18
that sleep supplied what with Conrad
17:20
prepared statement whereby he gives an
17:22
account virus statement that he drove
17:24
up with his solicitor and then
17:26
he chose to. No. Answer
17:29
questions about that account and the
17:31
interview. I've got an extract
17:33
from his statement in front of me, so
17:35
keep in mind my mood doesn't know at
17:37
this point that the police. Have connected
17:39
him to the cons. So. This
17:41
is what he says about the allegation. That.
17:44
He nicked criminal cast. In.
17:47
Chingford and Wembley. I. Vehemently
17:49
denied committing any test on
17:51
either occasion. I, however, except
17:54
the I was involved in the
17:56
two incidents. His. Defenses that
17:58
he was acting under do. After
18:00
being stopped in the street by a couple
18:02
of Asian men he'd never met before, The.
18:06
First two male was holding on to
18:08
his waistband. And looked like he might
18:10
be hiding something. Hinting: To a
18:12
gun or a nice. He sent to
18:14
me. Don't have profound or of
18:16
Capua up. A took that
18:18
as a threat that and shoot me. The
18:21
males told me he wanted me to do
18:24
something for them. The. New a
18:26
lot about me or my family. Including
18:28
the police officer from for
18:30
his gait. One of the
18:32
mentioned. That seen mobilise. Kid.
18:36
And they knew where he lived. In.
18:50
Alpha my son Macys not just
18:52
any old heart of Belfast gave
18:55
out of with Lecter series disseminate
18:57
guys don't think is it every
18:59
sale and my body was just
19:01
let up. Salad bar was dime
19:03
Bradshaw will happen next. Could go
19:05
on to threaten peace in Northern
19:07
Ireland's. One of
19:09
the few gay police officers in
19:11
the country that someone tools them
19:14
for democrats it was going to
19:16
be murdered story. For
19:19
his own skin he traded
19:21
star entice madame sort listen
19:24
i really precise. But.
19:27
Validate was pack of lies. We.
19:30
Know that to save money owed. Traveled
19:32
sued by with the com brothers. the
19:35
said the evidence from airline said they
19:37
were all in to buy together at
19:39
the same time in late summer of
19:42
Twenty nineteen. There are even photographs of
19:44
Must Move hanging out with the con
19:46
brothers. There's one
19:48
of them drinking cocktails at some
19:50
rooftop bar much since he i
19:52
think and short set all of
19:55
them. Proper holiday mode
19:57
this is hanging out with your friends
19:59
and then is another one of my
20:01
mood with the com brothers on a
20:03
trip to the deserts. There's a lot
20:06
of stuff here. I'm it. Dissipates
20:09
shot in the desert. The standing there
20:11
in their sights. They just look like
20:13
boys on tour. This is a holiday
20:15
for them. There's no effort whatsoever to
20:17
hide the fact that the got relationship.
20:20
there's a lot on this guy. Got
20:23
remember though. That. The Crown Prosecution
20:26
Service, They need more than
20:28
that. They need to be able to prove.
20:31
That he was working for the cons of his
20:33
own free will. And also they want
20:35
to be able to prove that he was getting paid for it. So.
20:38
At this point, Muff Mood and
20:40
his mate i own Geico a
20:42
lot out on bail. In
20:46
Dubai Mister Big picks up his
20:48
encroachment phone does a message from
20:50
the con gang to say they're
20:52
friendly police officer for the referred
20:54
to as mates he has been
20:57
arrested. For. Chingford
20:59
job at was trying
21:01
to. Via
21:06
encroach at Mister Big Tax
21:08
to ask if is Pat
21:10
police officer has given himself
21:12
away by splashing. The cast
21:14
is a good question. Six
21:16
thousand pounds because towards the
21:18
Rolex Watch. A
21:20
message pings back spot watch but
21:23
don't think they got that and
21:25
then later. On watches
21:27
but they didn't take them. The
21:29
left the rich mail and Daytona.
21:31
A new Rolex Daytona watch costs
21:33
tens of thousands of pounds. A
21:35
new Richard Mille what can cost
21:37
at least eighty five thousand dollars
21:39
and that's way more than a
21:41
Pc ends in a yeah. Mister
21:44
Big and the cons are relieved. That.
21:46
The watches don't appear to have been
21:49
spotted during the raid on Pc. Muff
21:51
Moods House said just like that. This
21:53
thought the plot the next robbery. The.
21:58
arrest a pc gushy from of
22:00
mood happens in April 2020 after
22:02
the police have hacked the Enchrochat
22:05
network. But like I
22:07
said, this is before the criminals,
22:09
and most police officers, realised the
22:11
network had been compromised. It
22:14
isn't until June that the people
22:16
behind Enchrochat realise what's happened. Today
22:18
we had our domain seized illegally
22:21
by government entities. Due
22:23
to the level of sophistication of the attack
22:25
and the malware code, we can no longer
22:27
guarantee the security of your device. You're
22:30
advised to power off and physically dispose
22:32
of your device immediately. DI
22:35
Andy Smith, an anti-corruption cop
22:37
who wasn't in on the
22:39
original Enchrochat investigation, sees an
22:41
opportunity. The Khan brothers are just
22:43
the kind of guys to use Enchrochat.
22:46
He contacts the team wading through the
22:48
Enchrochat messages and they identify a handle
22:51
being used by the Khans. There's a
22:53
lot of back and forth in the
22:55
messages with someone in Dubai, and it's
22:58
clear that he used to live in
23:00
Oxbridge. The police work
23:02
out that the Dubai guy has
23:04
the same name PC Khashif Mahmoud
23:06
was searching for on the police
23:08
national database. It looks as
23:11
if PC Khashif Mahmoud was trying to
23:13
find out what the police had on
23:15
Mr Big in Dubai. It gave
23:17
us the missing pieces of the jigsaw. The
23:20
evidence of the cash that we had
23:22
been missing was all set
23:24
out within the Enchrochat. It
23:27
has to be 500k to 1 mil
23:29
bro. That's the final count. You have
23:31
450k bro. Everything clicks. DI
23:35
Smith can see the robberies being
23:37
planned and discussion of a police
23:39
officer being involved. Tell him to
23:41
do normal police act. Don't
23:44
be cocky. Search the van for
23:46
more money. Within the Enchrochat
23:48
they referred to Khashif as cash the
23:50
fed and matey. Whether
23:52
they were using the term matey to
23:54
try not to refer to him by
23:56
his real identity. I don't know but obviously if you're going
23:59
to use cash. The Fed. Doesn't
24:02
help the I met could see
24:04
in the messages the cons and
24:07
Mister Big into by discussing the
24:09
implications of my moods arrest for
24:11
Chingford at Wembley job it was
24:13
great concern about whether to shape
24:15
the mood. Had lots of cash
24:17
around his house where the read
24:20
purchased anything expensive that was around
24:22
the house and watches was one
24:24
of the things mentioned. Which
24:29
Mail. That
24:32
clearly demonstrated to is that
24:34
mood and honestly from activity
24:37
that had been undertaken with
24:39
the Counts. And
24:44
that's why Pc consciousness mood is in
24:46
the first wave of painful to arrest.
24:48
And from a twenty twenty. Not
24:51
everything but in my defense
24:53
influenced and companies would smoke
24:55
some laws, codes and do
24:57
so many given in evidence.
25:01
That was a load of ordinary mobile
25:03
phone data that put my mood at
25:05
the same time and place as the
25:07
cons and the steel box games. But.
25:10
It was when my mood so all the
25:12
and quota evidence against him. That. He
25:14
decided to plead guilty. He
25:16
was convicted alongside the com brothers
25:18
and I and Geico. And. Was
25:20
sentenced to eight years in prison. His.
25:23
Fake police officer friend I and
25:25
gaggle got six years. The
25:27
com Brothers, or upwards of fourteen
25:29
years each. The. Guy recording
25:31
Mister Big in Dubai remains as
25:33
far as we know at large.
25:36
His. And quarter phone is probably at the
25:38
bottom of to see. As
25:40
for Pc My moods police officer
25:42
Weiss, she was dismissed from the
25:44
police without notice and pled guilty
25:47
to concealing criminal property. And. Was
25:49
given a twenty month suspended sentence.
25:52
And. Order to carry out a hundred and
25:54
fifty hours of unpaid work. And.
25:56
I and goggles wife. Also. A
25:58
serving police officer was. Mr for
26:00
gross misconduct. The. Turning a
26:03
blind eye to eye Husband's
26:05
criminality is the most brazen
26:07
corruption. I've seen
26:09
in my time investigating have been
26:11
five years. I'm anti corruption c'mon
26:13
now an Asda say the most
26:16
bold and brazen I've seen. Detective.
26:19
Chief Inspector Dress Hi you Kane I
26:22
met police officer has been my guide
26:24
through the story. He's. One of
26:26
the offices leading this whole and quota
26:28
operation for the Metropolitan Police. And
26:30
what did the and quarter of course and tell you about.
26:33
The. Scale of a police corruption.
26:35
Just. How little was on
26:37
Baxley? A. In
26:40
I was one of our
26:42
ports as Isis was corruption
26:44
isn't allocates. will come sit,
26:46
sit for the Mets data
26:48
but I was surprised that
26:51
there wasn't more. Police
26:54
corruption isn't the only uncomfortable issue
26:56
that encroach as thrown up for
26:58
law enforcement and our next episode
27:00
by going to be getting the
27:03
latest on the thing that could
27:05
derail the whole and Croucher operation
27:07
yes is a sin that the
27:09
National Crime Agency applied for the
27:11
wrong type of warrants towards their
27:14
applied for with the make it
27:16
legit to accept hack the material
27:18
from the French but lawyers hired
27:20
by some of the accused a
27:22
saying it wasn't. A hack. It
27:24
was an intercept and that has must
27:27
have implications. What I do know is
27:29
if it's intercepted evidence, it can't be
27:31
used in a court of law. Be
27:33
up to secure a conviction. See us
27:36
in some cases. If you take the
27:38
anchorage as way there isn't much of
27:40
a case. That's a real problem Said
27:42
to me scores of dangerous man out
27:44
and to be let back else on
27:47
the seats you can hear the episode.
27:49
In fact you can hear the whole
27:51
series now on Bbc sounds. I'm
27:55
a been is our and you been listening
27:58
to Catching The Kingpins The story. The
28:00
biggest organized crime in
28:02
British Policing history. It's
28:05
a BBC studio's production for BBC
28:07
Sounds, the series pretty sad with
28:09
Andrew Hoskin and the executive producer
28:11
was in his bow. Touching
28:15
The Kingpins. listen fast
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on Bbc Sounds. People
28:25
who knew me a story about lies
28:28
he used. A terrorist attack to run
28:30
away for numerous and say turned and
28:32
laws Are you proposing to me in
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the face of i'm Paul and six
28:37
weeks is chemo and I have no
28:39
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