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This is the Weekly Scramble,

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a place where we chat about life over

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a cold one or two. It's

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time to belly up to the pod with

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Mike Fradlone and your host, Chris Reavers.

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Yes, sir. It's time for the Weekly

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Scramble. My name is Chris Reavers by

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my side. His name is Mike Fradlone

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with Fradlone's Hardware and Garden Stores. Hello,

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Michael. How are you doing, Reavers? I'm

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good. I've got a bunch of

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things that I do want to discuss, including a

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couple of emailers that we might as well start with that

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were reacting to a conversation that you

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and I had last week. The

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first one comes to us from Lee talking

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about vacation travels and the frat pack.

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Nice. I'm on vacation. Reavers,

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if you're going, because I was talking about the

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road trip. If you're

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going on I-70 by

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Topeka, Kansas, consider checking

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out Truckhenge, the Lesmond

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Farm and Truckhenge. It's in Topeka, Kansas.

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Bring some spray cans of paint. If you go

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there, you and Fradlone are hilarious, but I think

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most dealers are not on Facebook. But if I

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would probably join the frat pack, I'd still like

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to have a beer with you and Mike at

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some point. I had to look up Truckhenge. I'm

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looking at it right now. Is

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it up my alley? I mean, it's a lot

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of trucks just placed in weird positions, kind of like

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Stonehenge, but trucks. Yeah, but with trucks. And that's exactly

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what I was thinking. Yeah, I mean, don't go too

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far out of your way. Okay. Like,

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you know, if you're driving right down the road and you had

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to stop, you could maybe do it. But

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Mike, that's the beauty of the road trip. You

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get to, hey, let's hang out here for a

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minute. Yeah, I mean, your kids are

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never going to see anything like this without

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going here. Right. Right, this

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is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Okay.

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Yeah. Yeah, okay, well, that's

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cool. Yeah, I mean. Oh, go ahead. What

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were you going to say? Ron Lesmans, that's the guy

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who runs it. And he looks like an

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affable. He looks like a frat pack member. Long beard, a bandana

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on. Cool. Maybe has a motorcycle.

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teacher with the F word on it. I mean, pretty

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much cool. Well, and that's the thing,

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because I'm sure the people that live

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in that area probably despise

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the place, but it's for the people,

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the dopes like me that are

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making a cross country road trip that we got

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to stop there. It's the same thing when, when

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my wife was, uh, she went to

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high school in wall, South Dakota, every,

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every person that lives in that area

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absolutely hates sturges because it's, you know,

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it's that part of the year there's

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10 million people that are verge

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on your town and, you know, in wall, South

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Dakota, they get a lot of, cause they're right

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on the freeway. So they get a lot of

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people that just happen to be stopping by or

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staying at the hotels or whatever. And they take

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over the town. How does she ever leave wall

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South Dakota? Cause I mean, you have wall drug,

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you could just go to that. Did

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she really sold, she sold black gold at wall

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drug. Really? I don't even know what black gold

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is, but it's called

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black gold. Isn't it? I don't know. What is

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it? Well, it's just fake jewelry. Oh, okay. Good.

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Yeah. No, no. Now I gotta look it up. We don't know

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what black gold, black gold was. Uh,

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uh, oil drug. I'm

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almost positive. That's what now she's going to say, you

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idiot. That's not what I did for black

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Hills gold. Oh, black Hills. Okay. That

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makes way more sense. Yeah. Cause I

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black gold is oil. Yeah.

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Right. No, I'm looking at, Oh yeah. Yeah. I

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don't know why she would have wanted to leave

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there. Yeah. Anyway, this truck spot cool. Right. It's

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cool. And the nice thing about it, when you

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leave, you're like, that was so cool. I'm so

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glad I don't live near that. Right. Right. We're

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in and we're out in 22 minutes and it's

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a thousand miles away and great. Yes. Um,

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so I have to do

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a little bit of a callback because we

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recorded the show, um, last week and that

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evening, my son

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had a play, a third

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grade play rent. And

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well, it's, it's funny. I

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had no, I knew he had a role

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in the play. My youngest, my two

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sons are very similar and very different in

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some ways. Or my. My

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little guy, he's very

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outgoing and he's a

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lot like me where he never met

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a microphone he didn't like. But

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he's the kid that doesn't mind,

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like if there's a speaking part in

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class, he doesn't mind raising his shirt. So

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they had a performance called Let's Eat. Oh, okay.

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I don't know if you're familiar with the play.

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I have not seen that one. It's about different

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kinds of foods and it was third and fourth

4:24

grade. And of course, when

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we got there, he's, you know, all the

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kids are dressed up into a certain, you

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know, in character. So of course,

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there was a role that required someone to be

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the singing banana. And

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of course, who raised their hand, my nine

4:41

year old. Nice. And I'm

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going to tell you, you know, sometimes your kids

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kind of shock you and surprise you in your

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ways. Yeah. Yeah. Mike,

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I'm not saying this because he's my son. He was freaking

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amazing. Really? I've never heard him sing

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like that before. And he can do it. He could sing?

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It was, I looked around and said, I looked at Jess

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and said, where did this

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come from? Who's that kid's dad? No, I'm

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not joking. He was amazing. Really? The

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point where other parents came up and said, I never

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knew Leland could sing. I didn't either. I had

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no clue. Did you record it? Did

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you have? She did. Okay. Because,

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you know, she can't sit and watch the show.

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She got a document every last second of it.

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It didn't even happen if she didn't record it.

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But it was, it was really cool. And one

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of those holy crap moments, you know, do you

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remember any of his lines from his banana song?

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Because the song had to do, because all the

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different, what would you call it, singing parts of

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the whole thing were about various food. Okay. And

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so he's wearing the banana costume. And his,

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his part was singing about how

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he was desperately in love with a

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banana split. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was

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very good. I thought it was going to be like, all

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the things you can do with pineapples and all the things

5:46

that you can do with bananas. And you're like, wait, time

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out. We're not singing that. No, we're not doing that. Because

5:51

you got a minute. Yeah, you like how I destroy a

5:53

fourth graders play. I don't

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think it was a word, but it was, yeah, it

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was neat. But then, but that's the part I wanted

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to play. wanted to bring up, not really bragging about

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my kid, where the part I wanted to bring up

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was, and I'm not, this isn't me being critical, because

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my wife was who was sitting next to me, was

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just as guilty. But why did we,

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as a society, and I get it,

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it's just, it's we're in the

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social media age of life, and I

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get that, like, there was one person

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I know that was recording it so

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that grandma on the East Coast could

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watch it. But where did we get

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to a point where we couldn't just

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enjoy what we were at, but

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we had to have everything recorded and documented.

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Yeah, I mean it's amazing. You

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know what I'm saying? And that's not just

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with plays, it's sporting events, it's

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everything. I just, I

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like to take a photo here and there,

6:44

you know, but I don't need to record

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every single second of it. Well, I'm 53.

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I was a third born. And when

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I tell you there's not 25 pictures

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of me from 1 to 21, I

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mean, I don't, I'm sure I had school pictures,

6:57

I have no idea where they are. I

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have a handful of photos that I had,

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you know, where someone had a camera out.

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We just weren't the type of people to

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do that. I guarantee you, my children take

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more pictures in one hour than I did

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from 1971 to 1989. You

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were the, oh yeah, he still lives with

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us. Yeah, I don't even recall being the,

7:17

besides the school pictures, right? Get rid of

7:19

those. I don't recall being

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the main thing in a picture

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ever until my senior class photos where they said, oh

7:26

okay, sit down and do that. That's interesting. Yeah, and

7:29

I- Would you like to lie down with this coach?

7:31

No, I mean, I don't care, right? I don't, I

7:33

don't, I don't care. In fact, for a very long

7:35

time, I was dating this

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one person, right? My wife, wife loves when I

7:40

tell these stories. And her dad came up from

7:42

a different country and wanted to meet me and

7:44

he said, hey, can we take a picture together?

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And I refused to take a picture because I

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hated pictures so badly. And I turned to her

7:50

and I said, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry

7:52

that I did that. I have no idea. But I

7:54

was like, oh, let's not take a picture because I was

7:56

like not feeling good. And I was like, ah, you don't

7:58

want a picture of me. I didn't

8:00

want to tell them that this

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was not an important thing is what I wanted to say

8:05

to them like, it ain't gonna matter. You

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won't want to keep this one in two weeks. It's

8:10

funny that that's where I was gonna go. I was

8:12

gonna say, you know, not that I want to pry,

8:15

but we share stuff on the show.

8:17

How long did the relationship last after

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that? It was really not even

8:21

that much of a relationship to begin with. The

8:23

person was very nice, nice person, but I'm just

8:25

a fool, right? And I just didn't care. And

8:27

I was like, you don't want a picture. I

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promise you, you don't want to carry this all the

8:32

way back to Uruguay or wherever the hell you're from.

8:34

You don't want to, I don't even know where it

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is from. I don't know. I probably not

8:38

Uruguay from what I can tell. Yeah,

8:41

I was not, you know how you do certain

8:43

things that you just feel like an A hole

8:45

afterwards? That was one. I

8:47

said, I could have just stood up, put on my

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smile that I don't have because I don't have a

8:51

smile. You probably were under the assumption that you're gonna

8:53

break this poor girl's heart and he was

8:56

gonna come find you based upon that. No,

8:58

let me make this real clear. I was not gonna

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break her heart. She was gonna come to her senses

9:03

at some point in time and say, what is this?

9:05

What am I doing? I could

9:07

fall off of a street car and knock into

9:09

someone better. A street car going

9:11

down West seven. Right, exactly. Those are coming out.

9:13

Yeah, I hope so for a couple billion dollars.

9:15

I was reading, oddly enough, he said that I

9:18

was reading a piece on, I

9:20

think it was Axios, Twin Cities, and how the

9:22

property taxes in both St. Paul and Minneapolis

9:24

are gonna be going up based

9:27

only because all of the values of

9:29

buildings, more so in Minneapolis and St.

9:31

Paul, have gone down to such a

9:33

degree that, well, they still have a budget to meet.

9:36

They have to make it. And I'm thinking, we

9:38

told all of you idiots this was going

9:40

to happen. He said, nope, we're gonna forge

9:43

ahead. I don't know why. Yeah, when a

9:45

$100 million building becomes a $50 million building

9:47

in downtown, their taxes have to go down.

9:49

I was stuck. So again,

9:51

I didn't think I was going to go down this

9:53

road, but I was stunned when I read that

9:56

both the IDS and

9:58

is it La Salle? Plaza.

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Both basically sold for a third of

10:03

what they did within the last 10

10:05

years. That's stunning to me. Two beautiful

10:07

buildings too. That's stunning. The IDS is

10:09

still a really pretty building. That's where

10:12

we had our wedding reception. Oh really?

10:14

Windows. Oh really? Very cool. I did

10:16

not know that. Yeah, so that's always

10:19

that building has always just had a special place

10:21

in my heart. I remember the Crystal Court had

10:23

like Banana Republic and a bunch

10:25

of stores and there was that not Martin Patrick

10:28

but a really high-end men's store down there and

10:30

then now it's just like nothing. I'll never

10:32

forget it was my wedding day and

10:34

you know because your room is in the

10:36

hotel part and then you know you're parked

10:39

in the ramp below and it's why there

10:41

was a couple of times where I had

10:43

to run from the very top to

10:45

go get something and then come back and I'll never

10:47

forget I was so I'm in my I'm in my

10:50

tux and that was a Banana

10:52

Republic right on that main floor and the girls

10:54

that were working there said oh are you getting

10:56

married today and I said yeah you know and

10:58

I said well come on in and they took

11:00

my photo like inside that Banana Republic because

11:02

I was looking good by the way but it

11:05

was just kind of neat and then I'll share

11:07

another quick story about that day so that

11:09

same Crystal Court it

11:11

was late in the day and I was stone sober I

11:13

had one beer the entire day of my wedding because I

11:15

I spent enough money on it I

11:18

wanted to remember every single part of this and so

11:20

my two brothers who did the opposite of

11:23

that we're all wearing the

11:25

same tux right and so Jess and I

11:27

are exhausted or it's the end of the day and

11:29

I'm gonna go back to the room if you know

11:31

what I'm saying and so we're taking the elevator down

11:33

I've got this giant cart full of stuff you know

11:35

yes and whatever that we're taking back to the room

11:38

and there was a security guy that that came down

11:40

with us just to make sure that we you know we were

11:42

gonna get to our room okay and he was awesome I gave him

11:44

a tap and everything so we get

11:46

down to the main level and my

11:48

two brothers are outside smoking my

11:51

oldest brother was bought was was there

11:53

with my youngest brother who at the time was dating

11:55

a girl and so all three of them were outside

11:57

and they were causing a ruckus because their drum It's

12:01

midnight or whatever it is, one o'clock in

12:03

the morning and the guy, security guys, looks

12:06

at the group and kind of puzzled and

12:08

looks at me noticing that we're all wearing

12:10

the same textiles. And he goes, oh,

12:12

do you know those guys? And I looked and I went,

12:15

never seen them before in my life. I

12:17

kept walking. See you later. I'm not

12:19

responsible for them. Go arrest them if you'd

12:21

like. But yeah, that's I guess maybe why I

12:23

had the reaction I did is it's just such a

12:25

beautiful space. It is. It's

12:28

just, it's just another indication of, damn, that

12:30

bums me out a little bit. Why can't

12:32

we have nice things? Yeah. Let's

12:34

just have some nice things. Yeah. Speaking

12:37

of nice things. Oh, good. There

12:39

is an account, and I brought this up

12:41

specifically for you, sir. There's

12:43

an account that I follow because it's weird

12:45

to think that it was around this time

12:48

four years ago when all hell broke loose

12:50

in terms of the pandemic. And

12:52

everybody was affected by it in one way or another. And

12:56

it's an account that basically shows how

12:59

insane we were four years

13:01

ago. Not as in we

13:04

were taking precautions to prevent people from getting sick. That's

13:06

not what I'm referring to because there was so much

13:08

unknown. We really didn't know. We really didn't know. We

13:11

can't go back and look at it. We had no

13:13

idea. But some of the times I do recall saying,

13:15

well, why the hell are we doing that? That doesn't

13:17

make much sense. And I'll never forget this. And this

13:19

is not me ripping on any large retailer. But

13:22

I remember asking my wife, well, let me ask,

13:24

here's what I don't understand. Why

13:26

can the four of us, me and my

13:28

wife and my two kids, why can we

13:30

go to Target and shop for

13:33

an hour but my kids can't go

13:35

outside and play baseball? Yes. I

13:37

don't. That part I don't. Like,

13:39

there was just too many missing pieces of

13:41

logic for my liking. People on the beach

13:43

by themselves in California, if they didn't have

13:45

a mask on, the police came and arrested

13:48

them. Exactly. That's exactly where I'm

13:50

going. So one of them was a photo

13:53

of a park in San Diego. And

13:57

I've been to that park. I knew exactly which one

13:59

it was. And they filled the skating,

14:01

you know, it looks like it was sand, but

14:03

they filled it with sand, and

14:05

then they put the emergency tape around

14:07

all of the playground equipment so that

14:09

kids wouldn't interact with each other. I'm

14:11

thinking, what the hell's next to that

14:13

thing? And there's so many examples

14:16

of that. Well, we just, to be fair,

14:18

we didn't know this time four years

14:20

ago. We didn't know. Correct.

14:23

A handful of months later, we kind of got,

14:25

oh, kids aren't dying of this. Why

14:27

don't we kind of let them ease back into

14:29

society, right? And then we tried it again.

14:31

Yeah. But, you know, I remember

14:33

roughly this time, four years ago, we were still doing

14:36

the beer show on ESPN 1500, right? And

14:39

we finished the show, and he turned to

14:41

me, and he said, I have some friends

14:44

that are at the airport, and they said

14:46

that they're going to stop flying. You

14:48

know, like planes are going to stop. And I said, Reavers, there's

14:51

not a chance that's ever

14:53

going to happen. And I was 100% certain.

14:57

In fact, I even made a joke about,

14:59

then we called it the coronavirus,

15:01

right? And I made a joke

15:03

about, you know, some

15:05

coronavirus thing, you know, I don't know,

15:07

because it was going to kill off Corona beer, right? And

15:10

a little did I know, like two weeks later,

15:12

we had to shut down our show, right?

15:15

And the world changed, you know, for two

15:17

years straight. And it was

15:19

St. Patrick's Day weekend, and

15:22

I was still bartending downtown. In fact, it got

15:24

to that point where I was starting to think,

15:26

is this really worth it? And we're just, and

15:28

that was just strictly because of crime. And then,

15:30

you know, I have asthma. And so my wife

15:32

was really concerned about me catching the virus because

15:34

again, she works in healthcare and we just, we

15:36

just didn't know. And I was a little worried

15:38

about, you know, what's going to happen to me,

15:40

even though I'm a somewhat fit guy. But

15:43

anyway, and I remember being at

15:46

the club Saturday night of St. Patrick's

15:48

Day weekend in 2020, going,

15:50

I don't really think I should be in

15:52

this room with many people,

15:54

250 people that I don't know that,

15:56

you know, I'm probably going to catch it, you know,

15:58

being, being in here. And then. That

16:00

next week. That's when Minnesota just said all

16:02

the bars are closed. I'm not shutting on

16:04

the restaurants and It's all

16:07

I I remember that vividly. I mean

16:09

think of that. It was four years ago,

16:11

man We shut down every single bar every

16:13

restaurant. Yeah, could you imagine being a bar

16:15

owner? You're already struggling to make it

16:17

many bar owners and all of a sudden

16:20

they said You're closed and

16:22

then the and I and I'm

16:24

a forgiving person, right? I didn't know what was going on

16:27

then right? I had no knowledge of what was going on.

16:29

So I said, okay, maybe this is the right thing to

16:31

do I don't know But as soon

16:33

as the data points started to say that it wasn't

16:35

the right thing to do Why

16:37

did we keep pushing it and pushing it and

16:39

pushing it longer and longer? I conceptually

16:42

get the fact that we didn't want hospitals

16:44

overrun I don't want people in a parking

16:46

lot laying in a bed and we're just

16:48

saying all these people are dying and you

16:50

know When on the garage logic

16:52

podcast we make fun of governor walls buying

16:54

that The freezer does

16:57

yeah the produce building, but he

16:59

didn't know He didn't

17:01

know if we were gonna have a hundred

17:03

thousand people dead in Minnesota in two months,

17:05

right? He didn't know and as a government

17:07

official you have to do that stuff But

17:10

when you start seeing that it's a very

17:12

specific group that are dying usually, right? It's

17:14

kind of an anomaly that younger people were

17:16

dying children were not dying at all, right?

17:18

You have to kind of say okay away

17:20

We got to start segmenting out society and

17:22

if you're sick and old don't go around

17:24

and it's been it's been widely reported And

17:27

I've read so many stories in because that

17:29

was when my my son

17:31

started kindergarten That was his first year

17:33

school was the kovat year and

17:35

you know, he obviously He

17:38

grew up in a home where he was supported and

17:40

we were you know on top of school work But

17:43

there's a lot of kids that don't have that don't have

17:45

it and that Ruined a lot

17:48

of kids just from from

17:50

a mentality standpoint and trying to have

17:52

them be in a structured environment A

17:54

lot of kids didn't survive. Yeah that

17:56

meaning meaning they'll be fine, but they're

17:58

gonna be so far behind. But they're

18:00

behind and we're seeing that now with you

18:02

know all these different studies about kids in

18:05

the Minneapolis and St. Paul school district, they

18:07

can't read at grade level. Yeah. Or they

18:09

can't read. Or can't read. Yeah, I mean

18:11

it's just not even getting ready to read

18:13

at grade level. Yeah, it's sad and I

18:15

think one of the hardest effects was everyone

18:17

was wearing a mask. In fact, one of

18:19

my team members, right, that a guy that's

18:21

a real good guy, he's worked for me

18:23

for a fairly long time through COVID and

18:26

he still continually wore a mask up until recently,

18:28

right? And he's in retail and you know,

18:30

but he's a healthy younger kind of guy and I saw

18:32

his face and it was kind of like me

18:35

meeting him for the first time. Yeah. Because he took his

18:37

mask up and I was like, oh, hey man, like, wow,

18:40

how you doing? Like it was the first time I

18:42

had actually paid more attention to him.

18:44

Right? Does that make sense? I do his name and I

18:46

talk to him and we bonded

18:48

a little bit. But until I got to see his face

18:50

and he has a nice smile and he's a kind of

18:52

a sharp looking guy, I thought, how

18:54

did I not really even know you? Right?

18:57

And a lot of people today, it's funny because

18:59

I was in one of the stores yesterday, I

19:01

said, boy, it seems like a lot of people

19:03

are wearing masks lately. I've noticed that too. Yeah.

19:05

And my team said they're afraid of the RSV

19:07

virus going around. It's not necessarily COVID, but they're

19:10

afraid of catching other things now. And it's usually

19:12

older people, right? And I kind of get that

19:14

if you're uncomfortable and don't want to get sick

19:16

and or you went through the last couple of

19:18

years and didn't get sick, you might

19:20

say, oh, it's probably because of that mask. But not that

19:22

I wanted to turn this into a COVID show, but isn't

19:24

it? I mean, I've always been of the belief

19:26

that even

19:28

within the first year, like let's just say

19:31

the calendar year of 2020, all right,

19:34

I don't think it was even remotely possible that

19:36

every single one of us did not have some

19:38

form of that virus at some point. Yeah. It

19:40

would have been, it would have been, I

19:43

can't imagine how impossible that

19:45

would have been for you not to have contracted

19:47

that in some way. I think when they came

19:49

out with the Omicron virus and this was late

19:51

in probably 21 and they said, a hundred

19:54

percent of the world's going to have this. And

19:56

the moment they said that, I was like, I'm done.

19:58

I'm never wearing a mask again. Like if ever. Everybody's

20:00

getting it. If it takes me, it takes me. I hope

20:02

to God it doesn't. But you didn't know,

20:04

right? You didn't know. But you can't also, you just can't

20:06

live in a world where you're constantly in fear all the

20:08

time. I can. You

20:11

can't do that. It's not healthy. And I think that was

20:13

part of what was a little damaging

20:15

to some kids because I remember having that

20:17

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21:49

See, 8 and 5 at the time.

21:52

You know, they were scared and I think it's, you

21:54

guys, we're all going to be okay. Sure. You

21:57

know, but it's, you know, I get it. Kids going to be alarmed by

21:59

that because it's been. eaten into them that they need

22:01

to be terrified of this. Well, it was

22:03

so scary because obviously the whole virus came

22:05

from people eating bath and you're like, well,

22:07

wait. I'm sorry. That was

22:10

just, I just had to throw that. Actually

22:13

I have no idea. I don't know what happened,

22:15

but I don't fault officials. I

22:18

really don't because you just didn't know. I

22:20

was making those decisions corporately for our team.

22:22

Oh, I suppose, yeah. And you know, I

22:24

remember very early in the pandemic and I'll

22:26

tell the story real briefly. No, go ahead.

22:29

I was someone that worked at a Walmart, a

22:31

cashier at a Walmart died of COVID. Oh no.

22:33

And it was like really early. And I thought, uh-oh, is

22:36

that going to happen at Fradilones? Like

22:38

our, cause we have a lot of seniors that work for

22:40

us, right? A lot of people who retire, but don't want

22:42

to die. So they want to work, right? You know, they

22:45

don't want to go sit on their ass for the next

22:47

four years till they die. They want to work and, and

22:49

they're the bread and butter of our team, right? It's really,

22:51

really important that we have these people. And I thought, uh-oh,

22:54

what's going to happen if this has

22:56

a kill rate of 50% of seniors and

22:59

I wasn't thinking about business. I was thinking

23:01

these poor people that I'm asking to work,

23:04

right? Cause we were all essential at that

23:06

point. And it was really, really frightening. So

23:08

if I had those feelings, I don't mind

23:10

that governor waltz would have those feelings too.

23:13

But at some point in time, you had to say, okay,

23:15

wait, why actually, you know, what happened to me is I

23:17

went down to Florida and I

23:19

looked around and said, what the hell's going on here? They

23:21

said, what do you mean? And they said, it was a myth. I

23:24

was like, Oh, if Florida is wide

23:26

open, I mean, wide open, we went to

23:28

a restaurant and they said, Oh yeah, we're,

23:30

we're doing a space seating. I'm like space

23:32

seating. I can literally touch the person next

23:34

to me. Right. And I wasn't saying I

23:36

wasn't going to go there. I just couldn't

23:38

believe like, Oh, if you've been doing this

23:40

the entire pandemic and we're shut down, we've

23:42

made a mistake. Right. Minnesota made a mistake

23:45

because Florida is not half dead at this

23:47

point. You know, their death rate was roughly

23:49

the same as everyone else's and it thought,

23:51

Oh, okay. We've now, and, and our government

23:53

should have known that by that point. Right.

23:55

Well, and I, I would think that I

23:57

don't envision, you know, a scenario like that

23:59

again, and until, I don't know,

24:01

about late August or that October

24:03

of a presidential election year? You don't think they'll

24:06

pull back on that and say there's a

24:09

new variance, right? I think people

24:11

at this point are going to say, we

24:13

ain't doing that yet. Yeah, been there, done that, we can't do

24:15

it. Well, and it's not that they're not trying to be healthy

24:17

or trying to be safe. It's like, come on, we've

24:21

moved on. It definitely showed a portion of

24:23

the population to reverse that liked it.

24:26

They liked being at home. They also liked,

24:29

there was a section of people that

24:31

did love to shame. Oh, to shame, yeah.

24:34

Oh, and I would run into that

24:36

constantly because sometimes

24:38

you're running into the bank or whatever, and

24:40

you're like, oh crap, I forgot my... It's

24:42

not that I was deliberately trying to disobey

24:44

orders. It's like, oh crap, I forgot to

24:47

grab... And I would always have one in my vest

24:49

pocket, but I forgot to bring with it. You

24:52

need to... First of all, lady, you're

24:54

not in charge of me. No

24:57

banker. Anyway. Yeah,

24:59

well, thank God that's over with. Oh,

25:01

no doubt. Right? Or whatever it

25:04

is, let's move on from that. We can

25:06

put that COVID behind us. Should we call

25:08

COVID done? Spend four years almost of the

25:10

day in Minnesota? Well, you declared winter was

25:12

over about three months ago. I think you're

25:14

the official closer of said topic. I think

25:16

I made a mistake on that winter, right?

25:18

Yeah, no doubt. Okay,

25:22

so I need the answer

25:24

from you because Joe wanted me to ask

25:26

you this question. You're really good with numbers.

25:28

Oh, good. The bear is not. Okay, podcast,

25:30

radio math, we're going to call this. Right?

25:33

It's always tough. So I think you know where I'm going

25:35

because you're a daily garage logic listener. Hold

25:38

on here. Here we go. You

25:40

already know this one because we've done this. The bat and

25:42

the ball. Oh, yeah. I'm not doing that one yet. But

25:45

the $100 bill won. Okay. Did you hear

25:47

this one on the show? No, no, I didn't. So,

25:49

and you're in retail. Yes. So you'll

25:51

know... I'm not going to get it right. You'll have the right answer.

25:54

Okay. Guy walks into a store. Yes. Steals

25:56

$100 out of the till. Yes.

26:00

He then uses that $100 to

26:02

buy $70 worth of goods and gets $30 in change. How

26:09

much money did the store lose? So

26:13

they got the $100 back, he sold the $100, so they lost

26:15

$100, but he gave them back. To

26:19

buy $70 worth of goods. To buy $70 worth of goods. So

26:22

we got $70 worth of goods and $30 worth of change. Correct.

26:26

So the store lost $100. Thank you. Okay,

26:28

am I right? Well, because

26:30

that's what I answered and Joe says no, it's $200. I

26:33

said no. Yeah, because he gave them back. The

26:35

$100 went back into the tail. Okay, that's what

26:38

I wanted to hear. Is that the right answer?

26:40

That is. I believe that that's the right answer, but

26:42

of course when I mentioned on the show,

26:44

people went berserkle because Joe was trying to

26:46

do math once again. Yeah, so sometimes I

26:49

feel like I'm bright and I'll

26:51

always come up with a quick, wrong first

26:53

answer. So never do that to me again

26:55

on the show. You're really good

26:58

with numbers. I'm okay with numbers. I'm

27:00

really good at fat math. Can I say

27:02

fat math? Morbidly obese

27:04

math. I've never heard that term before. You've not heard that

27:06

word like, you know, 37% of

27:09

$64 million and you kind of just

27:11

like come up with a number, right? And

27:13

you're just like, oh, it's got to be something like $30 million,

27:15

right? You know, you just, you kind of

27:17

like, you know where it is approximately. And

27:20

some people have no concept of that.

27:22

Right? No. And

27:25

I'm probably not right with my, I actually have to be

27:27

pretty darn close. That's not bad. I mean, I don't think

27:29

that's bad. But I'm a big fan

27:31

of fat math, just understanding the principles of what

27:33

you're talking about. I've never heard it called that

27:36

before. Fat math. Yeah.

27:38

Yeah. You just, you don't

27:40

have to be right down, rounded down to the lowest number. You're

27:42

in the realm. That's why I waste all that

27:44

money getting that stupid accounting degree. That

27:48

is kind of funny that you have an accounting degree

27:50

and you don't do anything with accounting as well. Well,

27:53

I did for a small stint in between

27:55

my two radio careers. Okay. I

27:58

did use it to a certain degree. And then

28:00

I thought, huh, this

28:02

real world stuff sucks. You don't even do your

28:04

own taxes. You send them out to Keller. Yeah,

28:06

Linda Keller's my gal. Yeah, for sure. And you

28:08

can do them. She's even said, she said, you

28:10

know, Linda and I have

28:12

a lot of interesting conversations. She's great, by the way. And

28:14

that's one of them. Oh, she's the main one. She's flat

28:16

out amazing. Darn it, I

28:18

lost the other story that I was gonna get to, but I

28:22

don't know how to broach the next topic.

28:27

Well, because, you know, it's that odd time

28:29

of the year where everyone

28:32

is, how should I phrase this?

28:35

I do not shave my chest. Is

28:37

that what you were wondering? Well, okay,

28:39

actually, it's not that far off from

28:41

where I'm going. But we're starting to

28:43

see the photos surfacing,

28:45

including the frat packers that are

28:47

checking in from various places, which

28:50

is super, super cool. But

28:53

I need to know, because obviously

28:55

this is a social media generated

28:57

phenomenon where we've got a post,

29:00

you know, look at me at the beautiful

29:02

spa that we're at with my face. So

29:04

it's like, I get it. You're

29:07

trying to let everybody know that you're at this

29:09

beautiful locale and you're having fun, which is fine.

29:12

Which is great, yeah. But what I

29:15

find somewhat, and I don't

29:17

know what the correct term would be for it, is

29:19

that it's self-absorbed a bit, but

29:21

it's what it's the litany of.

29:24

And that's why I cannot stand

29:26

Instagram. I hate everything

29:28

about Instagram, because Instagram I think

29:30

is so much more damaging than

29:34

Facebook and Twitter for sure.

29:36

Don't you think? Yeah, well, I

29:38

mean, Twitter is more damaging than Instagram, and

29:40

Instagram is more damaging than Facebook. Before you

29:43

continue, my case in point, have you seen

29:45

the video of

29:47

the influencer dancing

29:50

on top of the Lamborghini? Yeah,

29:52

those are all made out though. Okay, yeah. But the

29:55

point is, that's totally believable. Sure,

29:57

sure. Where she busts the windshield. Lamborghini

30:00

and I'm thinking and she did this

30:02

for likes Okay, that one

30:04

might be a little stage and I am

30:06

my senses are always everything's like that. Nothing's

30:09

real anymore But I could I've seen Mike

30:12

I was at a beach what

30:16

two months ago in Which

30:18

this girl? So just

30:20

there sitting there nice cocktail beautiful

30:22

sunset this girl made her boyfriend

30:25

Follow her with the camera for I

30:28

watched them for 30 minutes. Oh my

30:30

god If that was if that

30:32

was you I would leave you in a

30:34

second But that's all she cared about was

30:36

trying to find that right photo and that

30:38

right video with the hair For

30:41

Instagram white there's something incredibly narcissistic about

30:43

it That's the word I'm right and

30:45

I totally agree with you But I'm

30:47

gonna tell you if my woman said

30:50

hey follow me around with a camera and then Posted

30:53

it and made 9,000 bucks from the post.

30:55

I'd be like, yeah, go ahead. Why where are

30:57

we doing this? I'm gonna follow you around in

30:59

a heartbeat. Okay, fine But

31:01

the vast majority of them are not

31:03

generating any anything But that's what they

31:05

think they're gonna be doing long-term. Yeah,

31:07

they take pictures of their food That's

31:09

another real one where to where they

31:12

have I was at a restaurant and

31:14

people had it You know what a

31:16

camera ring is no, like it's that

31:18

what the light ring Yeah,

31:20

so you put your camera through it and it's and

31:22

they had all their light rings on standing up on

31:24

the booth taking pictures Of their food and I was

31:26

like, what are you doing? Like

31:29

who cares who cares what I mean, you

31:31

know, if they if the restaurant said hey

31:33

We're gonna give you this food, but you have to

31:35

make a post for it I kind of get that

31:37

and I think the value to a restaurant is pretty

31:39

good for that. You're a food critic But

31:44

these look like just people out for the night and

31:46

like you bring your own ring light To

31:48

a restaurant and this wasn't this wasn't

31:51

the cat's meow restaurant. This is just

31:53

something. Okay, wait cats meow Okay, I

31:56

want to make sure that when I use one of those

31:58

old-fashioned idioms That the. It'll be

32:00

our i had a horrible racist anti

32:02

Jewish thing in office. Who knows what

32:04

it is for Food has no no

32:06

I have to look up with cats

32:08

meow meow and are glad you mentioned

32:10

that because on last week's show we

32:12

brought up but the fact that he

32:14

basketball commentator was suspended for using cotton

32:16

picking mine will scrubbing a player and

32:18

we did get an email on it

32:20

was I believe his name is Edward

32:22

he said does your right Reeves that

32:24

story was from. A few years ago

32:26

council Westbrook a D I have to and happened recently

32:29

had I just wanna make sure to mop right and

32:31

maybe I was. Maybe I was digging so deeds are

32:33

my seed that I got all the way back twenty

32:35

eighteen. But I did look up a casio or American

32:37

phrase that means something. Or. Someone who

32:39

is very appealing are outstanding. So it has

32:42

nothing to do with racism so I guess

32:44

I knew. Term that I can use now

32:46

is. Rivers. Your the cat's

32:48

meow. Oh my God I do you

32:51

say about this? I just have to

32:53

be very very careful on all of

32:55

us and smell our and And finally

32:57

what I'd like to discuss his The

32:59

Biden Crime Family. okay, tipping expensive to

33:01

naturals is nothing seems like we're not.

33:04

When you know we were going to

33:06

bring up last week about Trump Band.

33:08

the bloodbath comment was all Humber taken

33:10

completely out of context and aren't even

33:12

care about any of that because I'm

33:14

I've so jaded that I think every

33:17

single agencies broadcasts. Agency has an agenda

33:19

surf except for the Gravity podcast herbal and

33:21

only gone by a Hubbard broadcasting this I'm

33:23

so I just g like more of they

33:25

obviously have an agenda says I'm condition to

33:28

just not really trust anybody or anything anytime

33:30

anywhere I just think I'm which is that

33:32

what are you know thing all day everyday

33:34

I to vikings when by three ah was

33:37

a bloodbath but it does go to show

33:39

you. We're. You

33:41

don't' We're not even the April yet. And.

33:44

The next. Seven. Months

33:46

are just gonna be. really

33:48

tough to deal with i told you

33:50

i mr with ready for that terms

33:52

know what they're talking about that so

33:54

i study stoicism in the stoicism that

33:56

kind of the tenet of stoicism is

33:58

you can control what you control. That's

34:00

it, right? You can't control things that

34:02

are out of your hands. That, you

34:05

know, November election is out of my hands.

34:07

There is nothing I can do about that.

34:09

I can vote and that's what I can

34:11

control on it. So when you get this

34:13

mindset of a stoic that I have, like

34:15

this, this calming mindset, you really

34:17

let a lot of that stuff go because you're like,

34:19

I can't do anything about it until someone

34:22

drives past you at too fast and they cut you

34:24

off and then you lose your mind and you, you

34:26

know, you chase after them and then you realize, wait,

34:28

I'm a stoic. I can't control this. Let's calm down.

34:31

Right? So I think you're absolutely right, but I'm taking

34:33

it from a totally different Zen like position and

34:35

you're going to be so proud of me. Until

34:38

my guy, not saying which one because I don't even

34:40

really have one loses, then

34:42

I will lose my mind and my whole thought of stoicism

34:45

is out the door. Interesting. Yeah.

34:47

I'm going to buy you that. Please do.

34:49

You're the Zen master. Yeah. I think I

34:51

mean, okay. Well, what made you go down

34:54

this path? Um, so I,

34:56

I, I read a quote from Epictetus.

34:58

He's a stoic and you know, they're a

35:00

couple thousand years old and they're really quite

35:02

bright and someone made a kind of ripped

35:04

on that quote and someone said, well, you

35:06

know, stoics have been studied for thousands of

35:09

years, right? A couple thousand years. They spent

35:11

their life just kind of living the stoic

35:13

lifestyle. And I thought, oh, that's kind of

35:15

interesting. I'm taking advice from Larry down at

35:17

the pawn shop or whatever. And I'm like, he's

35:19

been around 31 years. Like, why am I listening

35:21

to Larry? Let me see what maybe people older

35:23

and, and, um, vetted,

35:26

right? A couple thousand years of people reading

35:28

their quotes and reading their books. Right. That

35:31

those thoughts are vetted out. So I started

35:33

to realize that it can be

35:35

extremely helpful. So let me give you a great

35:37

example. My father, my brother and

35:39

I would walk into a restaurant and my dad would walk

35:41

up to the host. And if the host went to immediately

35:43

look at us and say, Hey, greetings.

35:46

He'd say, hello, hello. Can you see us?

35:48

Right. He would be a little more patient than

35:50

that, but not much. Right. And he would also

35:53

say, we're going to sit in this table and

35:55

he'd walk right away. And he,

35:57

my dad's a great guy. Just doesn't think of that

35:59

stuff. He doesn't understand that he's walking past

36:01

the host to go sit in the table.

36:03

And they're going to sit there anyways. He doesn't

36:05

care. He's going to go sit there. So I

36:08

said to my dad, I said, dad, let's chill

36:10

out, right? Let's chill out. You've

36:12

taken everything in politics. Read this book. Read

36:14

this book. And it's changed my dad. Really? And

36:16

honest to God, he'll call me and say, did you read? So this book

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is called 366 Days of Stoicism. So

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it's one page a day and it gives you one

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lesson from a stoic, a couple thousand year old stoic

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and then a gentleman named Ryan

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who kind of puts it into layman's terms.

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Right? So it becomes very easy. So it's

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a quote plus a couple more paragraphs so anybody can get through a

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page a day. And my

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dad at 81 years old is finding huge

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benefits from this. Wow. Huge

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benefits. In fact, you had expressed to

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me that Joe Sucheray was having kind of

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this existential crisis of where's America going. Right?

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And my dad was having the same thing and Joe are, you know, roughly

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the same age. My dad's 10 years older than Joe or

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whatever, but they're roughly in that same age group. And

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I said, I'm going to buy that for Joe because I think that

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whole mean of we can't control that. So

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why are we trying to control that? Right?

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You can't do it. It's like going to scream at

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the rain. There's nothing you can do about it. Right?

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You might as well say, I love rain because it's coming no matter

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what. You mean if we tackle climate change, then we will be able

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to just think about the rain. Well, that's right. I

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never even thought about that. Or if we set off nuclear

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weapons into hurricanes, which is Trump's

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idea. And I'm going to go ahead and out on a limb.

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Trump said some wild things that I don't necessarily

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agree with, but I bet you anything. If you

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set off a nuclear weapon inside of a hurricane,

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it's going to slow the hurricane down. Probably.

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It's going to stop that spin. But would it also have, you

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know, greater impact? No, we're

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doing it all the time over the ocean.

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We're testing. Okay. I'm sure the

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fish have, you know, four testicles or whatever. We don't care. Do

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fish even have testicles? I don't even know. Right?

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But they could. Well, I'm picturing is that one

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fish from the. On that note, we should just

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have the four testicle fish sandwich. I'm

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doing that for Lent. Extra tartar stuff. Oh

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my God. Revers, you're the best. Oh, that's

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