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Live Q&A with Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Olga Lautman

Live Q&A with Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Olga Lautman

Released Saturday, 30th September 2023
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Live Q&A with Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Olga Lautman

Live Q&A with Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Olga Lautman

Live Q&A with Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Olga Lautman

Live Q&A with Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Olga Lautman

Saturday, 30th September 2023
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Hey, everyone, welcome to this week's

1:09

bonus show, which is going to be

1:12

the live Q&A

1:14

at the recent live Gaslit

1:17

Nation taping with Ruth Ben-Kiat, the

1:19

historian and author of the bestselling book

1:21

Strongman

1:22

Mussolini to the Present and Russian

1:25

Mafia expert Olga Lottman of

1:27

the Kremlin Files podcast. So

1:30

these are questions from our wonderful audience

1:32

who was there on an extremely stormy

1:34

night. The time people had

1:36

to leave their homes in New York City to come

1:39

over to this bookstore in Lower East Side, it was

1:41

torrential rain and people

1:43

did that

1:44

to come together and fight crime.

1:46

And I want to thank you all so very much. It was such

1:48

a thrill and honor to meet you all. And now here are

1:50

the questions from our audience. But first, I want to

1:52

just share some quick announcements. I

1:54

got some things to say about Fox News because

1:57

I recently had a conversation

1:59

with someone who.

4:34

There's

6:01

this weird feeling of, you know, you're at a bar, you're at a club,

6:03

you're at a restaurant, and then a big

6:05

truck carrying giant missiles goes by, just

6:07

a surreal feeling. So especially

6:10

the early scenes capture very

6:12

much that feeling of being an authoritarian country

6:14

or a country at war, and the later scenes

6:17

of the harrowing journey trying to make it into Europe,

6:19

everyone needs to watch that.

6:22

It will stay with you forever. And

6:24

the second film I strongly urge you to watch, and

6:26

the filmmakers are going to be featured in an upcoming

6:29

episode, hits a documentary, a Peabody

6:31

Award-winning documentary called Missing

6:33

in Brooks County, about the

6:36

deliberately cruel, deliberately mass-murdering

6:40

border-crossing

6:41

engineered under President Bill Clinton,

6:44

which was, so basically

6:46

under Clinton, operations were put in place to try to

6:49

funnel refugees to cross

6:51

over the most dangerous terrain possible.

6:54

And this has led to mass deaths,

6:56

essentially state-engineered mass murder. And

6:59

also the film talks a lot about

7:01

how there are these dystopian, militarized

7:04

checkpoints well within the

7:06

countries on the southern border, not just on the border,

7:08

but well within the countries. I

7:11

first heard

7:11

about these militarized checkpoints while

7:14

phone banking to get out the vote in Arizona.

7:17

One of the voters I spoke with told me

7:19

about this, described them to me. And

7:21

so that's why I'm always saying to our listeners,

7:24

please phone bank, not just to get out the vote, but

7:26

to learn different things, to get invaluable

7:29

insights into what's going on in various

7:31

parts of your country. So

7:33

definitely phone bank for that reason, definitely phone bank

7:36

to fight for your democracy, fight for your country,

7:38

fight for your children's future, and also to

7:41

go on a bit of a tourist tour of

7:43

people's lives in other pockets of our country. It's

7:45

really quite extraordinary. So that film,

7:48

Missing in Brooks County, the filmmakers will be

7:50

on the show. They walked through some

7:52

common sense solutions

7:54

on how to fix the border crisis. Right

7:57

now, the border crisis is intentionally.

8:00

engineered for max cruelty. It's ran

8:02

by wannabe cowboys, wannabe militias,

8:04

a bunch of meatheads, when really what needs

8:07

to come in are a bunch of good managers

8:09

and smart transparent systems and

8:12

a policy of humanity

8:15

that would actually make the American government

8:18

money and raise tax revenue.

8:20

So for instance, one of the filmmakers mentioned a solution

8:23

of, you know, if these refugees are

8:25

coming to the border and they're escaping unimaginable

8:28

violence, unimaginable terror,

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you know, black countries where

8:33

you can't even fix up your front porch that's

8:36

broken because that would alert the local

8:38

crime gangs, the local mafia that you have

8:40

money and then they'll kidnap someone in your family, hold them

8:42

for ransom and torture them, kill them, and you might not see them

8:44

again because they're shaking you down. That's

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what it's like to live in some of these countries where

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they're full blown off, violent mafia states or there's

8:51

widespread famine engineered

8:53

by a Russian backed dictatorship like in Venezuela and so

8:56

on. And so what these desperate people

8:58

are trying to do is they

9:00

will give money to a coyote,

9:03

a smuggler. So why not

9:05

just have that money that they would give

9:07

otherwise give to a smuggler be used

9:10

as a bond on the border and then

9:12

they're allowed to come into the United States. They're

9:15

given a work visa so they can go straight to work

9:17

and they won't have any fear and

9:19

they will then be lawfully obligated

9:21

to pay their taxes, you know, being here on

9:23

a work visa and that raises tax revenue

9:26

that fills one of the nine million

9:28

available jobs right now and

9:31

so on. And they're allowed to go back

9:33

and forth, go back home, deliver

9:36

money and so on and have it basically a border

9:38

like in the European Union, right?

9:40

And I know the Fox News hooligans

9:42

are going to pull their eyeballs out and be like, oh my

9:44

gosh, look at this hairy

9:46

feminist lefty with

9:49

a podcast saying that they want

9:51

open borders. But by having open borders,

9:53

somebody needs to say it, somebody needs to normalize

9:55

this because it really is

9:57

financially and the U.S. is best in the U.S.

11:35

on

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YouTube, you can see where I've had to reapply my makeup

12:02

after crying after watching the swimmers, okay? So

12:05

you can see this video over on YouTube

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the first 10 minutes and the rest is just audio only.

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And thank you all for your support of the show. We could not make Aslet Nation

12:12

without you. So

12:15

the question was for the recording, Pergosian is

12:18

dead. Yay! And Katerov

12:21

maybe sick dying. Do you see

12:23

that as Putin weakening? This

12:27

is actually a tough one because I,

12:30

the day everything

12:31

happened with Pergosian, my phone was blowing

12:33

up from media trying to get an answer.

12:36

So a very... No, I

12:38

have a very different view. I personally

12:41

am still hesitant as to whether Pergosian

12:43

is dead. I don't,

12:46

I mean I just cannot picture him and

12:49

Utkin and the whole top leadership of Wagner

12:51

getting on a plane in Moscow

12:53

knowing the threat to

12:56

them. And

12:58

you know, and I

13:00

mean Utkin who is the real founder of

13:02

Wagner, he's a lieutenant colonel

13:05

for GRU. So he's had the best training.

13:08

Plus they've tackled governments in Africa.

13:10

It's yet to be seen. But

13:13

when you look at the bigger scale, yes.

13:16

In September of last year when Pergosian

13:19

publicly started attacking Russia's

13:22

defense ministry, going after

13:24

the defense minister, joined chiefs,

13:27

this one, that one, and pretty much going

13:29

after the elite, the oligarchs, you saw

13:31

the fractures growing. And these

13:33

fractures continued growing and growing

13:36

and growing. And what it demonstrated

13:38

was not that Pergosian because in Russia you can't

13:40

just open your mouth and decide to,

13:42

I mean the things that he was saying would have had

13:45

anybody executed in

13:48

normal time. What it did demonstrate

13:51

is that he had cover from people within

13:54

intelligence services, within the

13:56

Ministry of Defense, and frankly

13:58

around Putin's inner circle.

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