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A rate. So

1:19

the world's oldest conjoined twins

1:21

Laurie and George Chappelle have

1:23

died. Oh, And.

1:27

On the seventh of April. But. Then.

1:30

I. Had a journey because I was like wait

1:32

a minute there can join the twins but that's

1:34

a girl dave and that's a boy named know.

1:38

It It turns out that

1:40

George was trans. Oh.

1:42

They're conjoined twins and only one of them

1:44

with trends interest in a He came out

1:47

in Two thousand Seven after hiding his trans

1:49

identity for many years, even from his sister

1:51

to whom he was joined by the head.

1:54

Ah, that's just so interesting to me. They're

1:56

going to keep a secret when you share

1:59

a head, right? Right? They

2:01

born in nineteen sixty one, in

2:03

Pennsylvania with partially few scholes. They

2:05

shared thirty percent of their brain.

2:07

Ah, they were initially told they

2:10

wouldn't live past thirty, but they

2:12

were sixty two when they passed

2:14

away. I'm so. The

2:16

the twins had separate bedrooms and alternated between

2:18

them so each twin could be in

2:20

their own room at least half the time.

2:23

When George came out as trans into

2:25

as a seven, he said quote I have

2:27

known from a very young age that

2:29

I should have been a boy. I loved

2:31

playing with trains and hated girly outfits.

2:33

I kept my desire to change sex hidden

2:36

even from Laurie for many years. I'm

2:39

They are the first conjoined same

2:41

sex twins to identify as different

2:43

genders. Me

2:45

he had a successful career as a

2:48

country singer. And. Laurie found

2:50

success as a trophy winning ten pin

2:52

bowler. Wow. This,

2:55

how are they more successful than

2:58

me? Less? It's mind boggling. How

3:00

did you become a professional bowler

3:02

with some dude attached to you

3:04

have that is amazing? The as

3:06

as impressive I'm Let's see the

3:08

other thing that I thought was

3:10

interesting is as they both have

3:12

had dating lives and apparently a

3:14

at least in Lorries case a

3:16

lorry would go on dates. I

3:18

George would read a book to

3:20

sort of but out of the

3:22

can rest assured. Thus, smart.

3:24

That's kind of the only thing you can do.

3:27

I'm. There's. They're

3:29

just they're They're super duper interesting

3:32

and that I'm I'm I'm going

3:34

to okay. I.

3:36

Was very tempting for just a minute.

3:38

Like just read this article where like

3:40

the word inspiring is used and that

3:42

this kind of like. Ablest.

3:45

Porn? Yeah he he only mean yeah Like.

3:48

But. They were. They were amazing

3:50

at how they. they navigated their

3:52

life. I'm given their condition, it's

3:54

it's It's impressive. I'll use the

3:57

I word impressive. How Cat? Who

3:59

can. I'm okay.

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Care. What if we were can join

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you if but not that much. Yeah.

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Yeah. Do your podcast of easier. We'd

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always be around. That's true for the

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facility scheduling conflicts, my buck and work

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schedule the at would be easier to

4:19

navigate. Ah ok news the second. Ah,

4:23

Let's do this one. So. Intel

4:26

has a Florida. A federal judge has

4:28

ruled that a trans woman teacher no

4:30

longer has to be referred to as

4:33

Mr In the Clown My God the

4:35

Uk citing First Amendment protections and the

4:37

judge said that she can use miss

4:39

and female pronouns. The decision follows the

4:41

passage of H B, one of six

4:43

nine in Florida, which mandated the teachers

4:45

could not use pronouns the do not

4:47

correspond to his or her sex. But

4:51

the judge said quote. So are you

4:53

getting specht everyone's genitals And make

4:55

sure that they're being. Gendered

4:57

according to their sex. That's the logical

5:00

next step to all of these things.

5:02

And it's really like, no, you don't

5:04

want genital inspections to be a teacher.

5:07

right? Now what anyone wants or to

5:09

do really anything or did you must?

5:11

It's not a urology appointment. Yeah, exactly.

5:16

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I

5:18

see. Went by Miss Would at

5:20

a Florida high school for four

5:22

years and would regularly right her

5:25

name, title and pronouns on the

5:27

whiteboard and just unfortunate name Myanmar.

5:29

You know what? I. Miss

5:32

Whoop! But. Then when the

5:34

when that bill passed. Ah,

5:37

A administrators called her in for a meeting

5:39

and informed her that she had to remove

5:41

her pronouns and title from display and could

5:43

not correct students who referred to her as

5:45

Mr. Oh. I'm

5:47

the judge ruled with this critique quote.

5:49

Once again, the state of Florida has

5:52

a First amendment problem. It has occurred

5:54

so frequently of late. Some might say

5:56

you can set your clock by at.

5:59

And question be. This court is whether

6:01

the First Amendment allows the state

6:03

to dictate without limitation how public

6:05

school teachers refer to themselves when

6:07

communicating with students. The answer is

6:09

a thunderous know. So.

6:12

Anyway, Thunderous yeah it's it is.

6:14

It is really a it is

6:16

interesting right? Bad. this idea that

6:19

like the don't say gay bill

6:21

and don't see trans bills that

6:23

the bills like them can. Force.

6:26

Somebody. Who works for

6:28

the state? To say. Things.

6:31

That. They. Don't. Believe.

6:33

Yeah or don't identify

6:36

with their i'm. It

6:38

it is. It is super interesting. Now

6:40

there's the counter argument that like know

6:43

they can't compel her to use male

6:45

pronouns but they also don't have to

6:47

employ her. But. It's

6:50

public institution, so. And

6:52

even if it weren't East still

6:54

employer right? cap? Yes, Who

6:56

are also be noticed M O

6:59

when when in in the ruling

7:01

I'm added that the the state

7:03

was trying to say to that

7:05

it could potentially cause issues with

7:07

her ability to do her job

7:09

and I'm in. in her defense

7:11

they pointed out that her kids

7:13

as school I'm. Herky. This

7:15

test scores are higher than others who

7:17

oh been other classes in in the

7:20

county. That's interesting. That sucks that that

7:22

has to be part of the argument

7:24

because it's a matter for kids are

7:26

bad or good. Her Dahmer Smart. I

7:30

would say her ability to correct kids

7:32

when they get information wrong is. Like.

7:35

Imperative to being a teacher so she

7:37

can't do that. That.

7:39

Makes teaching harder. Yep. Teaching.

7:43

It's hard enough. Teaching is hard

7:45

enough. visited. Don't add this additional

7:47

burden on to Trans teachers. Oh

7:49

God. Ok News Sister Emily for

7:52

the sleep who look at news

7:54

the third, an Italian Prime minister

7:56

george him alone. He says surrogacy

7:58

is in you. And. I'm

8:02

it's already illegal in Italy, but

8:04

the The Brothers of Italy party

8:06

that Maloney runs as introduce a

8:08

bill that would further criminalize the

8:10

act by hiking finds from six

8:12

hundred thousand euros to one million

8:14

euros, an increase in jail terms

8:16

from three months up to two

8:18

years. Caught. I continue

8:21

to believe that surrogacy is an inhuman

8:23

practice. She

8:25

said I support the bill that

8:27

makes a universal crime to toot

8:30

toot to do surrogacy am. And.

8:33

That. Pope. Francis addressed surrogacy and

8:35

document released Monday that a lot of people

8:37

talking about in terms of gender identity such

8:39

as well but said that and the Catholic

8:42

Church is also against surrogacy because quote. Ah,

8:45

it violates the dignity of the

8:48

child and the woman who becomes

8:50

a mere means subservient to the

8:52

arbitrary gain or desire of others.

8:55

I'm. which I

8:57

don't apparently like. It's. Fine

8:59

to force her to give birth for her

9:01

husband or her rapist. but if it's out

9:04

of the goodness of her heart for some

9:06

other person that somehow evil and wrong and

9:08

bad. Yeah, Exactly. Or it

9:10

and it just occurred. I remember

9:12

when know we're just Peter met

9:14

Peters Matthews on and. To.

9:16

Talk about sorry Seen we got a bunch

9:18

of people saying that circus he was wrong

9:20

and get a bump and he'd comments about

9:23

that. Yeah, Screw new comments

9:25

part not the inaccurate yet. Yes, it's

9:27

also under Maloney government that Italy. I

9:29

didn't realize this and in covered at

9:31

the time but I took a step

9:33

backwards of birth certificates were changed to

9:35

say parent one parent to and then

9:37

they ruled that back and and twenty

9:39

twenty three that went back to having

9:42

mother and father are on birth certificate

9:44

off and fuck off. Italy sucks. Yeah,

9:47

And and the pope. I guess the

9:49

he com the pope or news the

9:51

last okay O J Simpson is dead.

9:54

oh yeah i didn't hear that

9:56

yeah oj simpson dice com and

9:58

the the The gay connection though that

10:01

I think is really interesting is that the Daily

10:03

Mail was trying to blame the fact, they just went

10:05

right past the did he do it or not, they're

10:07

like he is a murderer. And

10:10

they think that he's a murderer because

10:12

he had internalized rage because his dad

10:14

was a gay drag queen. His

10:17

dad was a gay drag queen? That's

10:19

the rumor. The

10:21

Daily Mail argued that quote, his drag queen

10:23

father who died of AIDS was a reason

10:25

behind his murderous rage. And

10:28

Jimmy Lee Simpson is his

10:31

dad who did pass away from

10:33

what at least looks like AIDS

10:35

related illness was

10:39

believed to be gay or at least there were rumors

10:41

that he was gay. There was a

10:43

childhood friend named Calvin Tennyson who said quote, one day

10:45

we went over to his dad's house and knocked on

10:47

the door. When his dad opened the door he was

10:50

in a bathrobe which is not a crime. And

10:53

then he kind of opened the door more and there was

10:55

a guy in the back in a bathrobe too. It

10:58

was obvious that his dad was gay. And

11:01

they also point to a 1977 interview

11:03

with Parents Magazine where OJ said that he was

11:05

not close to his dad and resented his absence

11:07

adding quote, when I became a teenager and was

11:10

trying to find out who I was, I really

11:12

needed a man around for guidance. The

11:15

implication being that he was not getting that from his

11:18

father. Anyway, OJ's

11:20

dad as a drag queen is a thing that I

11:22

had never heard before. I had no idea. But also

11:24

it's the Daily Mail so it's like. Yeah.

11:28

Yeah. True story. Yeah. He

11:30

full on murdered those people. He definitely did. Yeah.

11:33

Rest in death. Are we allowed to say that? There's

11:35

some things where we.

11:38

It is my opinion Kyle. In

11:40

my opinion facts don't matter. And

11:44

he murdered those people. Yeah. Okay.

11:47

That's the news. Speaking of people we don't want to

11:50

murder, I want to thank the following new Patreon members.

11:53

Thank you to Keith Panetta.

11:55

Yeah. Probably. Leon's.

12:00

son, grandson, nephew.

12:05

Okay. Um, Alex, I

12:07

Dickinson. Yeah. Hey, or

12:10

Alexi. I'm not sure which one

12:12

Alexi. Um, although Dickinson

12:14

is not a Russian name. So who knows? Quinn.

12:19

Just Quinn. Just Quinn. Thank you. Quinn. Quinn has

12:21

two ends. If that matters. Thanks. Quinn.

12:23

The nah, uh, Christian. Just

12:26

Christian. Just Christian. And Jobo.

12:30

Jobo. Is that two words? That's one

12:32

word. Jobo. I thought I said it

12:34

one wordingly. Jobo. Jobo. Yeah. Sounds

12:37

like a bonobo name. Bonobo

12:40

name. Bonobo. Bonobo. It's a bonobo

12:42

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13:02

I forgot to do this correction at the beginning. Do

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it now. Um, so now

13:06

I'll do a correction. Um, I

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said Bertman rock the entire

13:10

time. Yeah. Uh, last episode

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about Playboy and it

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is Bretman rock. Bretman rock. My

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sincere apology to the rock estate,

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to his family, to God,

13:23

and to my pastor. And to the

13:25

ghost of Hugh Hefner. Yep, exactly. Rolling

13:27

over in his grave. So yeah, sorry.

13:30

There's a dude on the cover. Yeah.

13:32

He was one of the dudes on the cover. So

13:35

he's a fan of it when it's him. At least

13:37

anyway, Bretman rock. This

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Yeah. Sometimes it takes a lot

13:48

of energy to do things like record an ad. Boy,

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it sure does. You have to think of the topic.

13:52

You have to think of something witty to say. It

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13:57

And I like being drained, but not.

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Want to talk about Boy Scouts? Let's

17:33

talk about the Boy Scouts com okay

17:35

you picked this Yeah so every month

17:37

we do patreon pole and whoever whoever

17:39

won the poll last month gets to

17:42

pick one and then there's a person

17:44

gets to pick to and than we

17:46

do that whatever with whatever when whatever

17:48

a get bridges say know and then

17:50

we us or been a tie breaker.

17:54

But I the Boy scouts. And.

17:58

I. Don't know. What? Whatever.

18:01

Whatever? Yeah. Yeah.

18:04

It just doesn't feel good to win, Kyle.

18:06

Why not? Because it's so

18:08

easy? Because it's... We're

18:10

gonna go with that now. No, I... Because

18:12

I just... I don't know. Huh.

18:15

I feel like we're a team. Oh. There

18:18

is no Mike in team. I

18:22

think Boy Scouts is a good topic. And there's

18:24

some gay parts to it, so I think it's

18:26

interesting. What were the other two? It was Docking,

18:28

which is gonna be your Patreon episode. Yep. And

18:31

the other one. And the other one.

18:33

Yeah. Mullets? Mullets.

18:36

Yeah, that was my other choice, was a mullet. Yeah. I'm

18:38

glad that didn't win. I'm

18:41

gonna guess... Mullets. Just a guess.

18:43

Thanks. I'm gonna

18:46

talk to you about the history of

18:48

the Boy Scouts, Kyle. Okay. So,

18:50

usually when we talk about the Boy Scouts, because

18:53

we are merocentric assholes that have our heads up

18:55

our own ass, we think about Boy Scouts of

18:57

America. Oh, yeah. Right? Which...

19:02

I had this thought earlier today. Whoever

19:06

designed those uniforms is a faggot, right? Oh,

19:08

for sure. They're like neckerchief. Neckerchief and

19:10

little shorty shorts. And a sash. Yeah.

19:13

And shorty shorts. My

19:16

goodness. Yeah. Okay. Well,

19:18

anyway, the Boy Scouts of America, which

19:20

also just gets called Boy Scouts, is

19:24

what's founded in 1910. And

19:28

about 110 million Americans have been

19:31

part of Boy Scouts of America over the years. But

19:35

it also was a founding member of

19:37

the World Organization of the Scout Movement in 1922, because

19:40

I didn't realize this. Boy Scouts

19:42

and scouting is not a uniquely

19:44

American institution. I

19:47

kind of put it in the same category in

19:49

my head as fraternities, which college fraternities are like

19:52

a United States only thing. I

19:54

think that's why I just assumed that they don't have

19:56

some other places, but they very much do. I'm

19:59

Justin Amaris. The castle. Excellent.

20:02

I live in take about if they

20:04

have mina other countries while. They.

20:07

Do they'll okay. Okay,

20:10

so. They

20:12

it was. it was spent in

20:14

the United States. It was founded

20:16

by Charles Alexander Eastman blame the

20:18

Boys Earnest Stamps and Seaton and

20:21

Daniel Carter Beard. There was a

20:23

beard in charge and I am.

20:25

So. Their stated mission is

20:28

quote to prepare young people to

20:30

make ethical and moral choices over

20:32

their lifetimes by instilling and them

20:34

the values of the Scout Oath

20:36

and law. And.

20:39

When the whole thing I started there

20:42

was kind of this focus on letting

20:44

boys do what boys do naturally and

20:46

just be there as guard rails to

20:48

help keep them safe. With claim to

20:50

sounds like Lord of the Flies to

20:52

me to send them out to the

20:54

forest with shit and like everything's gonna

20:56

be okay. yeah. Were

20:58

you a Boy Scout girl? I was not.

21:01

No, No, My dad was. He.

21:03

Was an Eagle scout. That's. Heard

21:05

clear? yeah. Apparently. Yeah,

21:08

I I was neither. You. Are

21:10

not know and I think it's because we

21:12

were to pour. Oh I don't

21:14

know why. I assume it costs

21:16

money. I don't know that's going to ask. what?

21:19

Yeah, what about it made it. Seem.

21:21

Like if you're just I guess. Camping

21:23

equipment costs money. Yeah, and

21:25

like. Crafts.

21:28

Or whatever else he the who had chores

21:30

to do on the farm and shit when

21:32

communicating. Okay,

21:35

so Boy Scouts of America

21:37

they got started. And

21:39

just a in in Nineteen Ten.

21:41

They were found to February eighth

21:44

as their official birthday nineteen ten

21:46

and they. Like. A lot

21:48

of things in that part of our history.

21:50

Kyle the origin story is kind of bullshit

21:52

him like George Washington and that not chopping

21:54

down the cherry tree or I cannot tell

21:56

a lie or whatever the fuck but for

21:58

all of that is fucking invented. Right. And

22:01

it is. But the guy, W.D.

22:03

Boyce, would tell the story

22:05

about the unknown scout. And

22:08

he, apparently the story went that he was

22:10

lost on a foggy street in London and

22:12

an unknown scout came to

22:14

his aid and guided him back to

22:17

his destination. And he tried

22:19

to give the boy a tip and the boy

22:21

said no because I was just merely doing my

22:23

duty as a boy scout, sir. And

22:27

then it was immediately after that because he

22:29

had asked the boy where the headquarters was

22:31

that he met with General Robert Baden Powell,

22:33

who I'm going to talk about in a

22:35

little bit. He was

22:37

the head of the Boy Scout Association at that

22:39

time because it started in the UK. Boyce

22:44

returned to America and four months later founded

22:46

the Boy Scouts of America. Now

22:48

here's the thing. So

22:52

he stopped in London because he was on his

22:54

way to a safari in British East Africa. And

22:57

it is true that a scout helped him

22:59

and then refused to accept a tip. But

23:03

the scout only helped him cross the street to

23:05

a hotel, did not take him to scout headquarters,

23:08

and Boyce never met General Baden Powell. But again, I'm

23:10

going to talk about him in a little bit. He

23:14

did get the address of the scout headquarters

23:17

and he just went on his own, picked up some information

23:19

about the group and left. Weather

23:21

reports showed that London had no fog on that day. I

23:26

like that we're really getting into fact-checking this story.

23:29

Yeah. Now, it's

23:33

just funny how these kinds of –

23:35

like humans can't help themselves but like

23:37

elaborate and make a legend out of

23:39

it. Yeah, a day becomes a foggy

23:41

day. Yeah. I wasn't

23:43

just lost. I

23:46

was really lost and

23:48

cold and hungry and couldn't

23:50

feel my toes. And this

23:53

angel, this angelic cherub of a little

23:55

boy came and saved me. anyway.

24:00

So I want to talk about this with

24:02

a cat instead. Okay. So

24:05

Robert Baden-Powell, his full

24:07

name was Lieutenant General

24:09

Robert Stevenson Smith Baden-Powell,

24:11

the first Baron Baden-Powell.

24:14

Wow. That's a, that's a hefty

24:16

name. Waity. He

24:19

was a British army officer, writer,

24:21

founder, first chief scout of the

24:23

worldwide scout movement. Actually

24:25

he and his sister Agnes also

24:28

founded the Girl Scout movement, which

24:30

I didn't realize that those came from the same

24:32

place. I thought they were like independent, but

24:34

I think that's because I get it confused with campfire

24:36

girls. I don't know what that is.

24:39

It's another organization. So

24:43

he wrote Scouting for Boys. He

24:46

was in the British army from 1876 until 1910 in India and

24:50

in Africa. And he

24:54

had a demonstration camp at,

24:57

it was the Brown Sea Island

24:59

Scout camp. And that is widely

25:01

considered to be the first Boy

25:03

Scout camp. Proper

25:05

Boy Scout camp. He

25:08

wrote Scouting for Boys, which was published in 1908 and then retired from

25:10

the army in 1910

25:16

and formed the Scout Association, which

25:19

then ultimately became the

25:21

world scouting organization.

25:25

So here's what I really want

25:27

to talk about, Kyle. This

25:29

dude was like a man's

25:31

man and super into like the military

25:34

and all of that. And he didn't

25:36

get married. They had kids. But

25:39

there were rumors that he was gay. There

25:42

were? Yeah. Yeah,

25:44

yeah, yeah. Okay. So here's

25:47

where's what's not not

25:49

debated. Okay. There

25:52

was when

25:54

he was in the army, he met

25:56

a 20 year old major named

25:59

Kenneth McLaren and Even

26:02

though McLaren was 20 at the time

26:04

Baden Powell nicknamed him the boy. Oh

26:07

No, I've encountered his appearance They

26:11

became really good friends big old

26:13

quotes around really good friends and

26:16

Baden Powell and McLaren both would say

26:18

that that relationship was one of the

26:20

most important friendships that they had

26:22

in their life Now

26:27

He also was put in charge of the

26:29

Brown Sea Island Scout camp in 1907. He

26:31

was one of the staff I'm

26:34

sorry, and then and

26:36

then he was he convinced Baden Powell convinced

26:38

McLaren to be his first manager at

26:41

the Scout magazine and

26:45

people have wondered

26:47

about that relationship so

26:49

apparently the boy was really good-looking

26:52

really cherubic and pristine

26:56

looking and

26:59

three of his biographers Baden

27:01

Powell's biographers have commented on

27:03

or Speculated

27:07

on his sexuality two

27:09

of the biography biographers in 1979 in 1986 focused

27:13

just on his relationship with his close

27:15

friend Kenneth McLaren and said like Duh,

27:20

oh look look look at what's going on there? Huh?

27:23

Then there's this guy named Tim Giel who wrote a

27:25

biography of Baden Powell in 1989 and He

27:29

says he thinks that

27:31

there was no evidence

27:33

that that friendship was erotic But

27:36

he still thinks Baden Powell was a big old mo

27:39

He looked at Baden Powell's views on

27:41

women because he was like anti woman

27:43

like wanted these like segregated Ginger

27:46

specific organizations to exist for a

27:48

reason he had Quote

27:50

an appreciation of the male form But

27:54

we all cannot know yeah, he also

27:56

read a bunch of stuff about his

27:58

military relationships and and his thoughts and

28:01

feelings and things that he wrote about

28:03

his marriage. Um, Tim

28:05

Geel concluded that in his personal

28:07

opinion, Baden-Powell was a repressed homosexual.

28:11

Now that's so hard to be the

28:13

judge of though, to judge someone and

28:16

say that they were repressed gay. Yeah,

28:19

I agree. Cause there's such a lack

28:21

of evidence to support your theory. We,

28:25

we run into this all the time,

28:27

right? Like he had, he was married,

28:29

had kids. So at least outwardly that's

28:32

pretty not gay. Yeah. Um,

28:35

but then also at a time when you

28:38

couldn't be gay and you had certain societal expectations

28:40

that you had to fulfill in order to be

28:42

a functioning member of society.

28:47

Um, and then all

28:50

of these like very close relationships with

28:52

other dudes and like running

28:55

around the world, gallivanting with boys, right?

28:57

Like, but wouldn't you also not

28:59

like the men have a hard

29:02

time being friends as it is for

29:05

fear of being called gay. So to take

29:08

a good friendship and say that that means

29:10

that he's gay, that, that kind of sucks.

29:13

It absolutely sucks. And I also wonder

29:15

about the aspect of like, does this

29:18

feed into or at the very least, uh,

29:21

derive from the idea of, of men

29:24

as predators and pedophiles, right? Like the

29:26

fact that this kid was 20, just

29:29

helped us pretty fucking young and

29:31

looked 14. And

29:33

that's part of why he was called the boy is that,

29:35

um, at

29:38

a time by the way, when, when, when Broseph was like 50,

29:40

um, if

29:45

that, like, if that raises our eyebrows and

29:48

we go, well, must have been gay because

29:50

of the pedophile thing. Yeah, that's true. Um,

29:55

it's really, it's really interesting. Uh, there

29:57

was a book written by people named

29:59

Proctor and. lock and

30:01

they said that Geel's arguments

30:03

and conclusion are just the

30:05

result of amateur psychoanalysis that

30:08

there is no physical evidence to suggest

30:11

that he was anything other than straight

30:13

and knock it off. Yeah.

30:16

Yeah. I think when

30:18

you're speculating on the people's sexuality, especially

30:20

if they didn't identify it, you need

30:22

like the, you know, lover.

30:24

You need the smoking pole? Yeah.

30:27

You need the smoking pole. Yeah.

30:30

You need the like ex lover to come forward and

30:32

be like, no, he was definitely gay or, you

30:35

know, that boy he was really close to to

30:37

like come forward and say something. But like without

30:39

that, then yeah, I do think it's just

30:42

trying to be a therapist when you're not. I

30:45

also think that there's some like weird,

30:48

wouldn't it be just like, chef's

30:50

kiss if Boy Scouts was founded

30:52

by a faggot. Right? Yeah. And

30:55

then there's a, it would be like, I

30:57

want it so bad to be true that we

31:00

look for what's not actually there. Yeah. In

31:02

order, like when I was reading about the rumors about this

31:04

cat, I was like, Oh, this is juicy. This

31:07

is going to be good. This is what I wanted out of this

31:09

segment. Right. I totally agree with you

31:11

that it's kind of, I don't know.

31:14

It's hard. It's hard to say. It's hard,

31:16

like definitively and probably shouldn't speculate,

31:19

but also somewhat if he was, I guess. Yeah.

31:22

So yes, he was. He probably looked at a lot of people's

31:24

right. Histories and

31:26

come up with a way that they might be gay.

31:29

Yeah. Like Abraham Lincoln sharing that bed with

31:31

that dude. Yeah. Well,

31:33

he might have been gay. Yeah. Um,

31:36

you have some gatoms? Um, I have a couple of

31:38

gatoms. We'll start with this one. This is, uh,

31:40

some gatum directly from scouting.org.

31:43

Great. Excellent. So

31:46

the scouting organization is composed of how

31:48

many young members between ages of five

31:50

and 21? Worldwide or in America?

31:53

US. US. Yeah.

31:56

Uh, 900,000. Um, close. One

31:58

million. Yay, me. Yeah, and

32:01

more than six hundred

32:03

thousand volunteers and local

32:05

councils? Okay, Their. Over

32:07

for tickets are outnumbered. They're outnumbered.

32:09

The boys outnumber them for serves.

32:13

That's. Almost. Two. To. Three.

32:17

Eleven percent of boys in the United States

32:20

are currently a scout. That.

32:22

Since high that aim high rate cause like

32:24

I guess I don't interact with children. so

32:27

maybe this is why I'm like no one.

32:29

I those a Boy scout but then again

32:31

know and I know as a child I

32:33

want Any of my nephews are boy scouts

32:35

I don't actually know. I see com

32:37

my brothers and find out. I'm

32:40

guessing not though when that of with hum

32:42

are because we weren't oh yeah. Yeah.

32:46

I'm. Twenty.

32:48

Three have been scouts at some point

32:50

in their lives. Twenty. Three percent

32:52

Yes, sir Said that There's like. Wait,

32:55

Does that mean twelve percent? Word like

32:57

Boy Scout Dropouts A some I think

32:59

get the well once you get user

33:02

needs can be voice get anymore so

33:04

like. That. Also

33:06

seems really hi Cindy become a man

33:08

scout been have. I'm.

33:11

A Man's Campuses. Yeah.

33:15

I think that's just like be older people who used

33:17

to be boy scouts be good all those than twenty

33:20

three percent seems really high for that. I agree. One

33:22

in four. not. Him. Yeah.

33:25

This is from them so you know there's

33:28

some biases going on. Boys

33:31

who are were in the scouts

33:33

or eat. A Boy Scout for

33:36

an average of five years. King. Eighty

33:39

three percent of men who were scouts

33:41

agreed that the values they learn in

33:44

scouting continued to be important to them

33:46

today. Which I

33:48

like that for the seventeen percent who

33:50

are like know ethnicity know that if

33:52

I didn't lose that information, I didn't

33:55

need it to. It's like mass as

33:57

you atlas yeah, I know you says.

34:00

I'm Men who were scouts are more

34:02

likely than those who have never been.

34:04

Scouts have higher levels of education, higher

34:06

earnings, and to own their own home

34:09

with. This I wonder

34:11

if this might be true because of the

34:13

money thing you talked about like I wasn't

34:15

a scout because we didn't have money via.

34:17

I wonder if people with money are more

34:20

likely to be scouts because. People.

34:22

That don't have money are focusing on.

34:25

You're. Making I heard a correlation vs cause a

34:28

single argument of like it's not The being a

34:30

scout made them good at life So that they

34:32

could build a house is right, They had money

34:34

had much money. They were a scout that also

34:36

propelled them to and gets in and therefore. of

34:40

oh okay yeah. That's. My

34:42

guess. Great. Don't you

34:44

think it takes that? You mean you said the

34:46

Serbian? It seems like it. people with money are

34:49

the ones that are scouts because you have time

34:51

to do this. It Yeah. Yeah. And

34:55

eighty eight percent of scouts feel

34:57

proud to live in the United

35:00

States. Wow! Speed

35:02

Market. Yep. Go America there are there

35:04

is like this big like packet with

35:06

a ton of other information about each

35:08

other values or whatever but those of

35:11

the things that I pull out. Okay

35:13

yeah. He pulled out of the

35:15

boy scouts pulled out from post. Assess.

35:18

Oh no. I'm

35:21

so. I.

35:24

When I was I did a. While.

35:27

We talk about it now. Okay,

35:29

so. You. Know you know

35:31

the merit badges. ah like when

35:33

you earn a badge than you

35:35

so it endured Sas that he

35:37

actually look like Miss America. But

35:39

the nicest but a bit boy

35:41

version of the medal of Merit

35:43

badge originally in nineteen eleven anyway

35:45

had a swastika on it. ah

35:47

now the reason that it had

35:49

a swastika on it. and of

35:51

course known Nazis did not like

35:53

a people know or jews know

35:55

I'm. Better at that's not

35:58

they were evoking nazis him at all.

36:00

It's because Rudyard Kipling. use the swastika

36:02

on the jacket of The Jungle Book.

36:04

And. This Baden Powell cat apparently loved

36:06

the jungle book and use the jungle

36:08

book is like part of the philosophy

36:10

for this whole thing, but like the

36:12

Wolf Cub branch of the scouting movement,

36:14

the came out of. The. Jungle

36:17

Book and the first to go for

36:19

the Inuits fuck with a symbol of

36:21

luck in India a long time before

36:23

the noughties adopted. it's an die out

36:25

and then it when when the nazis

36:27

started using the swastika the scouts immediately

36:29

stop teasing it's wounded. They didn't do

36:31

that like it's or heritage. you know.

36:33

Yeah, verse think school thank goodness. Yeah.

36:36

A mild a swastika really got a bad rap.

36:38

While. The

36:41

Nazis ruined everything they touched. Kind

36:43

Yeah, Yep. ah and still do.

36:47

So. But it turns out also that

36:50

Nazi Germany band scouting. The. Thing

36:52

is they had the Hitler Youth and

36:54

and they thought that it was a

36:56

competitor. And. They didn't want Boy

36:58

scouts and Hitler youth like to be.

37:01

A Dividing. Attention Yeah

37:04

so they how they they banned it

37:06

in June of Nineteen Thirty Four and

37:08

they said that date and they they

37:10

really port on the rhetoric. It sounds

37:12

a little bit like. Somebody.

37:14

Running for President right now? I'm said

37:16

quote it's a haven for young men

37:18

opposed to the new state. And

37:21

they cast scouting as

37:23

a dangerous espionage organizations.

37:27

Cr for the law kids are doing.

37:29

They're taking their binoculars and spying right

37:32

into the heart of you and this

37:34

this may be gay Baden Powell guys

37:36

are the I was in the Black

37:39

book which the black book was a

37:41

as a nineteen Forty secret list of

37:43

people that were going to be jailed.

37:46

I if their plan if the Nazis

37:48

planned conquest of the Uk were successful

37:50

than. He was like on the list the

37:53

people around up or how of which i

37:55

thought was was super interesting but yet this

37:57

idea that like. He. takes in

37:59

in doctrine to know an indoctrinator.

38:02

So when the Nazis are like, we can't

38:04

have them indoctrinating them separately. We need to,

38:06

we need to, we need to monopoly on

38:08

indoctrination. Yes. So

38:12

yeah, and it makes me realize

38:14

that like, that kind of thinking is sort

38:16

of what's going on in our

38:18

politics right now, right? The

38:21

idea of like, who's grooming who and

38:23

everybody must be grooming somebody. So like,

38:26

those drag queens are indoctrinating but

38:28

of course Christian Bible studies aren't.

38:31

And what needs to

38:33

be shut down or not is based

38:35

on like agenda. Yeah. This

38:38

is the problem with using the

38:40

word grooming from taking that away

38:42

from what it originally

38:44

meant is that like, if

38:48

you look at it that way, everyone's grooming

38:50

someone because we're all teaching kids and shaping

38:52

them in some kind of image. So if

38:55

you want to just debase it down to

38:57

like, that's what grooming is, then yeah, everyone

38:59

that talks to a child is grooming them.

39:02

So grooming is actually a term

39:04

used for sexual predators where it's

39:06

like a specific kind

39:08

of plan and path you use to

39:11

prepare them to be a sexual

39:13

prey for you. Yeah.

39:17

So that they won't tell on people.

39:19

Like it's a really specific word that's

39:21

annoying that has been stolen and meaning

39:25

has been lost. Well,

39:27

and everything is just so extra, right?

39:29

Like crank it up to 11 all the time. Like

39:33

they're running scared. Yeah. It's

39:36

clearly just fear. Yeah. I

39:38

want to go back to you mentioned indoctrination.

39:40

Yeah. Is Boy Scouts indoctrination?

39:45

The Nazis sure thought so, right?

39:50

They also did their best to shut down

39:53

non-Christian churches and any

39:55

sort of Journalism, the

39:57

journalism that was... Reporting

40:01

against the the movement, they shut

40:03

down. Gay people, despite their

40:05

relatively permissive Weimar Republic am in

40:07

terms of attitudes about homosexuals like

40:09

they they. They really. It.

40:12

Takes and indoctrinated In own indoctrinate Her and in

40:14

our teacher thought that the Boy Scouts were there.

40:18

But. Also. I.

40:20

Don't know that there's a lot like when you

40:22

start picking apart the actual values of the boy

40:24

scouts. They. At

40:27

least the modern boy Scouts

40:29

are not particularly religious. They

40:31

have allowed agnostic and atheists.

40:34

Scouts. For a really long time. And

40:37

all of the stuff like what is

40:39

there would have their fuckin' once they're

40:41

fucking on. On. My own.

40:43

I will do my best to do my

40:45

duty to God and my country and to

40:47

obey the Scout law to help other people

40:49

at all times to keep myself physically strong,

40:52

mentally awake, and morally straight. That was the.

40:54

Okay, Morally stream. yeah I write that down

40:57

to to talk about but that that that

40:59

was the Scout Oath which I think it's

41:01

changed over time. I don't know that it's

41:03

has to god in my country more know

41:05

maybe it does at the i think it

41:07

it on scadding.org at least again. so. There's

41:11

not a lot to argue with. There's what I'm

41:13

saying, right? Like who's gonna? who's going to say

41:15

like node telling kids to do their best as

41:17

and doctor the. Way

41:20

okay, them more helpful to other

41:22

people. That's indoctrination given their history.

41:24

Morally straight is a little better.

41:27

Maybe I could update the wording on? that may

41:29

be so. Morally Upright. More.

41:32

Yeah, Morally Sound Marley

41:34

not placid. East. I'm.

41:40

And. A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly,

41:43

courteous kind of beauty and cheerful thrifty.

41:45

Brave, clean, and reverent. That's

41:47

Scout law. I. Don't

41:49

have much argument with any of those

41:51

either. Yeah, right. So. Now.

41:54

maybe there's some nuance about what it

41:56

means like loyal that's a word that

41:59

trump throws around time because

42:01

they don't mean loyalty in the

42:03

altruistic sense or in the virtuous sense.

42:07

They mean absolute submission

42:09

to unwavering, jingoistic adherence

42:12

to whatever that hive mind

42:14

requires. Fuck

42:17

hell. I'm

42:20

all medicated. It's great. Oh.

42:23

Yeah. Okay. Let's

42:25

go on. What is happening? Scout me.

42:28

Let me tell you about, this was a paper

42:32

that appeared in the Journal of Social

42:34

Issues in Okay.

42:38

I'm from 1978. Oh, congrats.

42:42

Thanks. You were around when this paper

42:44

came out. By

42:46

Jeffrey P. Hanthover. It

42:48

is called The Boy Scouts and the Validation

42:50

of Masculinity. And

42:52

here is the summary that I wrote down of

42:54

this paper. The

42:57

success of The Boy Scouts of America in the

42:59

early 20th century can be

43:01

in part understood in terms

43:04

of increased concern over the

43:06

maintenance of traditional concepts of

43:08

masculinity. Yeah. Okay. Already, I'm

43:10

getting nervous. Yeah. For

43:12

sure. Adult men at

43:15

the turn of the century believed that

43:18

the opportunities for development and expression of

43:20

masculinity were being restricted. Sure. We've

43:22

heard some of that horseshit recently. I

43:25

was going to say, man, this shit

43:27

is not new, these worries

43:29

about masculinity. Straight

43:33

dudes, straight white people, straight white

43:35

Christian people wanting to be the

43:37

victims of persecution.

43:41

They want to be the victims of anything. Yeah. They

43:44

want to be the victims of anything so bad. Because

43:46

it's so hard to beat them, Kyle. So hard and

43:48

they just want people to know. You

43:51

can't even say the N word anymore. And

43:53

that's a restriction on my freedom. Scouting

43:57

was a means to counteract perceived

43:59

forces of femininity. Organization in the

44:01

world of adolescence sure. Yeah,

44:04

that's another thing We continue to see

44:06

like the world is being feminized the

44:08

youth are soft. Yes. Mm-hmm Yeah,

44:11

I see that a lot today. Yeah,

44:13

no one wants to work anymore everyone

44:15

just wants a participation trophy because we've

44:17

we've we've we've let them not

44:19

learn what hard work is and Yeah,

44:21

maybe we've spoiled them because we spared the

44:24

rod. We didn't give ourselves participation trophies I

44:26

don't know why anyone that blames the Millennials

44:28

for that. We didn't give them to us,

44:30

right? Other people gave them to us, right?

44:33

Why are you not blaming me other generations

44:35

because we were the recipients of them and

44:37

you're mad about that I didn't give myself

44:39

a participation trophy. I was just there

44:42

get me to give you one Kyle No,

44:44

I want to earn it. Okay. I want

44:46

to earn my participation trophy. Okay, great To

44:53

continue an analysis of the social

44:55

background and motivations of Scoutmasters suggests

44:57

that the scouting movement provided adult

45:00

men defined by their occupations an opportunity

45:03

to validate their traditional image

45:05

of Masculinity, yeah,

45:08

so But that's that's

45:11

self-referential, right? Like we're

45:13

gonna go do this masculine stuff because it's

45:15

masculine. Yeah, that's true It and this is

45:18

so much of what we talk about it

45:20

Like the stereotypes of traditional masculinity have to

45:22

it has to just be picking apart the

45:24

stereotypes and being like we're gonna go do

45:26

that Right, you know, like there's no other

45:28

way to define masculinity other than to stereotype.

45:31

Yeah. Yeah Yep,

45:34

so I think it's really interesting

45:36

that we've been talking about this same shit for

45:38

forever. This was 1978 we're

45:41

still talking about the risk

45:44

and dangers of masculinity and Masculinity

45:48

is so fragile. Yeah because it's under

45:50

attack all the time. Yeah. Yep.

45:53

It's under attack Kyle All

45:55

those beta cucks are gonna just

45:57

give up to the commies. Yep That's

46:00

why I'm an intel. I'm an intel. Well,

46:04

okay, we gotta talk about gay shit, right? Yeah, let's

46:06

talk about gay shit. Okay, there have been a number

46:08

of membership controversies over the years with regards to the

46:10

Boy Scouts, at least in America. It

46:13

turns out that the UK is actually like unsurprisingly

46:15

way ahead of us on a number

46:17

of these things. Oh no. They were

46:19

allowing gay members or gay leaders in

46:22

Boy Scouts as early as 1991. In

46:25

the United States, it's been very

46:28

different. We touched a little bit on

46:30

religion. So

46:32

they did have a position

46:35

in the past that said that atheists

46:37

couldn't be scouts or scout leaders. They've

46:39

since walked that back. They

46:42

also had their

46:45

position on gender, which has evolved over time. In

46:47

1967, they had traditionally called the den mother

46:52

as the position. And

46:56

they changed that to den leader and said

46:58

that both men and women could be den

47:00

mothers. And then

47:02

in 1969, they opened special interest posts to

47:07

young women to be associate members. And

47:11

then in- But not equal members.

47:14

Right, which that happened to a lot of

47:16

fraternal organizations as well. Like you look at

47:18

the eagles and the fraternal order

47:20

of eagles and they would have their Aries,

47:23

but they also have their auxiliary chapters,

47:26

which that's the chicks. Anyway,

47:29

two years later in 1971, the Boy

47:31

Scouts decided to allow any explorer posts

47:33

to accept young women or young men

47:36

based on the desires of the chartered organization. They

47:38

really did a like, local

47:41

y'all can decide locally thing for

47:43

a kind of a long time. States

47:45

rights. States rights. And

47:49

then it was in 1998 that they completely reorganized and

47:55

split into two program categories, the

47:57

accepted men and women. Anyway. So

48:01

gender, gender, gender, it was in 2017 that

48:03

they said that trans boys would be allowed

48:05

to enroll in their boys only programs. Joe

48:08

Maldonado was the first openly trans boy to

48:10

join the Scouts on February 7th of 2017.

48:15

And it was until 2017 that their official

48:17

position was that girls could not participate in

48:20

Cub Scouts or Boy Scouts, even

48:22

though those were its largest programs. They're like,

48:25

we have other programs that girls

48:27

can be in. But

48:31

venturing and learning for life programs were and continue

48:33

to be open to men

48:35

and women. So

48:38

it was in 2017 in October that they said

48:40

that girls would be allowed to become Cub Scouts

48:43

and around

48:45

the same time that they allowed trans boys

48:48

to just have the same year, like eight

48:50

months later. And

48:53

then like the connection between that. I

48:56

don't like it. Oh,

48:59

we're letting you it shouldn't be based

49:01

on. Oh, we're letting girls in.

49:03

So now trans boys are fine. Like those

49:05

things shouldn't be connected. Right. And I it

49:08

seems like they might have been connecting them. I

49:11

don't know, but it's progress. So yeah, yeah,

49:14

it's possible. I get what

49:16

you're saying. It is feel like kind

49:18

of icky. Yeah, but yeah. And

49:22

then in 2019, they

49:25

said that older girls could

49:28

become Eagle Scouts. But

49:31

that really means that like quote unquote

49:33

full gender equality within the BSA organization,

49:35

which they have been trying to say

49:37

that it's just Scouts or scouting and

49:40

that BSA, even though it stands for

49:42

used to stand for Boy Scouts of

49:44

America, no longer stands for anything. So

49:47

that the B is no longer boy, like they're

49:49

working real hard at like getting this image

49:52

thing straightened out. But

49:56

yeah, they, the BSA has had quote unquote

49:59

full equality. Since 2019 Kyle. Eons ago.

50:05

Right? I

50:08

keep thinking about like gay marriage. Gay

50:11

marriage hasn't been legal for 10 years yet. We're

50:15

not talking about like decades

50:18

and decades and decades of progress.

50:20

Like yeah, it's all

50:22

very new still. It's so new. Okay,

50:26

so now let's talk about gay shit. Yeah, okay. Before

50:30

2013 as

50:33

early as 1980, the Boy

50:35

Scouts of America denied

50:38

membership from openly homosexual

50:40

individuals applying for adult

50:42

leadership positions. Okay. Yeah,

50:45

I was wondering whether we were talking

50:47

about the actual boys and Boy Scouts

50:49

or the adult people that are leading

50:51

them. Right. Which are two different conversations.

50:53

Which are two different conversations. But

50:56

people seemed way more over the

50:59

years, over the evolution of Boy

51:01

Scouts seem to be more focused

51:03

on the leaders, the adults that

51:05

were interacting with the kids, which is

51:07

all grounded in this pedophilia thing that

51:09

we have been talking about. Right. Yeah,

51:11

even though it's always church leaders. But

51:15

what so

51:19

in 1991, they released a position statement

51:21

that said quote, we believe that homosexual

51:23

conduct is inconsistent with the requirement in

51:25

the Scout oath that a scout be

51:27

morally straight. And in

51:29

the Scout law, that a scout be

51:31

clean in word indeed, and then homosexuals

51:33

not provide a desirable role model for

51:35

Scouts. The BSA thus

51:38

believes that a known or avowed homosexual

51:40

is not an appropriate role model of

51:42

the Scout oath and law mean,

51:45

fucking mean. Well,

51:47

and so this

51:50

idea that like being gays dirty, and

51:53

immoral, yeah, and a corrupting presence.

51:56

That's that we had things

51:58

haven't gotten that much better since 1991. Right? I

52:03

would like to think that it has. Not

52:07

in Florida. Not in Florida. In 2004, they

52:14

included a youth leadership policy that said, quote,

52:16

Boy Scouts of America believes that homosexual conduct

52:18

is inconsistent with the obligations in the Scout

52:20

oath and Scout law to be morally straight

52:23

and clean in thought word indeed. This is

52:25

only 20 years ago. The conduct

52:27

of youth members must be in compliance with

52:30

the Scout oath and law and membership and

52:32

Boy Scouts of America is contingent upon the

52:34

willingness to accept Scouting's values and beliefs. Most

52:36

boys join Scouting when they are 10

52:39

or 11 years old. As they continue

52:41

in the program, all Scouts are expected

52:43

to take leadership positions. In the unlikely

52:45

event that an older boy were to

52:47

hold himself out as homosexual, he would

52:49

not be able to continue in a

52:51

youth leadership position. Hmm. Yeah,

52:56

yeah. Yeah, that's the

52:58

problem is that they were dealing with

53:00

such young kids that at what point

53:03

did they even realize themselves

53:05

that they're gay? And then when did

53:07

they come out? And then this

53:09

could be one of those things preventing

53:12

them from coming out because they know that

53:15

it's not allowed. It's just

53:17

one more signal, one

53:20

more way that we're learning that it's

53:22

not okay to be gay. Yep, absolutely.

53:24

And we know

53:27

that a feeling of a lack of

53:29

safety and support is directly correlated to

53:31

suicide rates for queer kids. And

53:34

so you are letting them get

53:36

involved maybe before they're aware of their own

53:38

sexuality in an organization that they care deeply

53:40

about that they pour a lot of time

53:42

and energy into that they develop all these

53:45

relationships within. And then as their

53:47

sexuality emerges, you tell them specifically your

53:50

time in this organization is going to

53:52

end if you come out. And

53:55

the work that you did is not valuable.

53:57

Like it is for nothing. Now,

53:59

as I often I can say it's all fun and games

54:01

until the Mormon Church gets involved. The

54:05

Mormon Church and Boy Scouts of America have had

54:07

a complicated history

54:09

of supporting each other

54:11

and there are

54:13

a lot of Boy Scouts are Mormon boys. That's absolutely

54:16

a true thing. What's interesting

54:18

though is in 2013, so on April 19, 2013, the BSA announced

54:20

a proposal to

54:24

no longer deny membership to youth on

54:26

the basis of sexual orientation but

54:28

maintain its span on openly gay

54:31

adult leaders. And

54:33

the LDS Church released, the Mormon

54:35

Church released a statement that supported

54:37

that proposal. So they're like,

54:39

how about we let the gay kids be

54:41

still in the organization? They

54:43

have to, we're going to drum them out

54:45

if they're gay after the attorney. And the

54:49

Mormon Church is like, yeah, that one. Let's do that one.

54:51

That sounds good. I don't know. How

54:54

do you feel about that? I guess it's progress.

54:56

It makes it feel like they're only letting

54:58

in younger gay kids so they can try

55:00

to dissuade them from being gay. Like

55:03

if it's damning at the age of

55:05

18 all of a sudden to be

55:07

gay, then why are they okay with

55:09

it earlier? And my only

55:11

inclination is that they want

55:13

to try to straighten you up. And

55:16

they think that maybe they can do it or the Boy Scouts can do

55:18

it. Yeah. Yeah.

55:21

Yeah. I

55:24

don't know why I'm sad now. I know

55:26

it is sad. Well, it's hard

55:28

because this is something that people are so passionate

55:30

about. They spend a lot of time and effort

55:32

and work really hard at Boy Scouts, you

55:35

know, to earn their badges

55:37

and patches and stuff and invest

55:40

a lot of themselves. It means a lot to

55:42

people. And to have an organization that means a

55:44

lot to you, reject you based

55:47

on nothing that you've based

55:49

on not any of the work that

55:51

you've done, but based on just who

55:54

you are, that sucks. And that's really

55:56

sad to hear about and talk about.

55:58

Yeah. Yeah, well,

56:02

so eventually it became about money. There

56:06

are lots of major corporations that were backers of

56:08

the Boy Scouts of America who basically

56:12

said, if you're gonna keep this anti-gay

56:14

policy when it comes to volunteers and

56:18

adult leaders, we're

56:20

going to pull the plug on funding. And

56:23

Boy Scouts tried to call

56:26

their bluff and said,

56:28

no, we're gonna stick with our policy. This was in 2017 and 2015, it was

56:30

2015, sorry. But

56:36

there were a bunch of companies who then

56:39

broke ties, Chase Manhattan Bank,

56:41

Levi Strauss, Fleet Bank, CVS

56:44

Firmacy, Pew Charitable

56:46

Trusts, all

56:49

withdrew their funding. The

56:51

United Way withdrew their funding. Intel,

56:55

the computer chip company, UPS,

57:02

Merck and company Chipotle

57:05

pulled their funding and

57:09

it was very shortly thereafter that they were

57:11

like, well, okay, hold on, let's think about

57:13

this. After

57:15

probably losing, what, millions of dollars?

57:18

Then millions of dollars.

57:20

Yeah. So

57:25

yeah, by 2015, they voted unanimously to

57:30

approve a policy change that would effectively end the national ban

57:33

on gay adults. And I

57:36

guess they got some of their money back, which they

57:39

really, really needed because of something else that happened. Are

57:41

you gonna cover this? No. No?

57:44

Mm-hmm. Over $2 billion in a

57:46

class action lawsuit to Boy Scouts

57:48

that had suffered any

57:51

sort of sexual abuse with the hands of Boy

57:53

Scout volunteers. Oof. And

57:56

yeah, it's 2020. In

57:58

2020, they filed. for chapter

58:00

11 bankruptcy because

58:03

of past Boy Scouts of

58:05

America sex abuse cases. So there

58:11

were around 2000 reported cases of abuse within the

58:13

Boy Scouts of America prior to 1994. In

58:18

2010, a jury ordered that the BSA pay $18.5 million to

58:20

a scout who was abused in the 1980s. And

58:28

in 2020, that's when they filed for

58:30

chapter 11 because they were

58:33

offering a financial restructuring so that

58:35

they could give quote, equitable compensation

58:37

to survivors and their families. There

58:40

were about 200 pending lawsuits in state

58:42

and federal district courts. And

58:45

about 1700 potential claimants in total once you looked at

58:47

all of those because a lot of them were class

58:49

action. And

58:51

so they

58:55

agreed to pay over $2.4 billion

58:57

with payments beginning in September of 2023.

59:02

And the lowest tier,

59:04

which this is the thing that creeps me out

59:06

the most about this is all

59:09

of the all of the payouts started

59:11

at $3,500 and went as high as a million dollars and

59:16

some change. But

59:19

that was based on how bad the abuse

59:21

case was. Oh, God. So like

59:24

some poor actuary or accountant and

59:26

or lawyer, they have to sit down

59:28

and talk about like, how

59:31

like this horrible thing that happened, let's

59:33

put a dollar number on it. Yeah, that's

59:35

the check that we're gonna write. How bad

59:37

was this like a little abuse or like

59:39

a lot of abuse? How bad was this?

59:42

Like, that's a horrible question to ask. And

59:45

it has to then come up with a monetary answer.

59:47

Yeah, it's wild to me. It's absolutely

59:49

absolutely wild to me. Yeah,

59:53

do you feel like this was million dollar abuse or just like

59:55

3500 abuse? Like, and

59:58

of course, then we have to look at the. parallels between

1:00:01

that and the Catholic

1:00:03

Church, right? Like this is a men's

1:00:05

organization, the priesthood, that

1:00:07

has altar boys were

1:00:09

largely, they were also not

1:00:12

altar boys, but just people

1:00:14

in the congregation that were also abused

1:00:16

by priests, but then all

1:00:19

of this investigation and the difference being that Boy

1:00:21

Scouts of America only had a certain amount of

1:00:23

money. The Catholic Church has, you

1:00:26

know, 600

1:00:28

trillions of dollars over the centuries that

1:00:30

this existed. But

1:00:34

yeah, there's a lot of parallels that you can draw between

1:00:37

the two organizations. The

1:00:39

last thing I wanted to talk about though, before

1:00:41

we move on, is it's also important to realize

1:00:43

that the Boy Scouts has had a history of

1:00:45

racial segregation. If you picture a

1:00:47

Boy Scout in your head, he white, right? Yep.

1:00:50

And so

1:00:54

even though our public schools were desegregated, in

1:00:57

1954, because of Brown versus Board of

1:00:59

Education, Boy Scouts of America

1:01:02

allowed racially segregated troops as late as

1:01:04

1974. Wow.

1:01:08

So in 1974, the NAACP sued in

1:01:13

a Mormon church affiliated troop.

1:01:16

Not surprising. There were two 12

1:01:18

year old black scouts who sought to fill the

1:01:20

role of senior patrol leader. And

1:01:23

Mormon boys entered the

1:01:26

lowest level of

1:01:29

the priesthood at 12 and the church's rules

1:01:32

required that the senior patrol leader be a

1:01:34

deacon within the church. But

1:01:37

the Mormon church did not allow for

1:01:41

black membership, full black membership.

1:01:44

And until 1978, they didn't allow people of

1:01:46

African descent to be full members of the

1:01:48

priesthood. So

1:01:50

all of that meant that black scouts were

1:01:53

prohibited from holding office of senior patrol leader

1:01:55

in Mormon affiliated troops. And so there was

1:01:57

a big old lawsuit about this. The party's

1:01:59

ultimately. recently reached settlement, but yeah, it

1:02:01

was like the

1:02:03

70s before Boy Scouts

1:02:06

really became integrated from a racial

1:02:08

standpoint, and it's just fucking

1:02:10

stupid. Yeah.

1:02:13

The one thing that I have to

1:02:15

add that I wrote down is the

1:02:18

Boy Scouts has allowed religiously-charged organizations which

1:02:21

operates more than 70% of their units.

1:02:23

So that's a ton

1:02:28

of religion and Boy

1:02:31

Scouts go hand in hand, basically. Yep.

1:02:33

Which is weird because it seems not

1:02:35

quite so overt, right? Right. But

1:02:38

it's there. But it's there for sure.

1:02:40

So religion influences all of our lives,

1:02:43

has little tendrils in everything that's going

1:02:45

on in our lives. Yep. And

1:02:47

this is just one more way, it kind of infiltrates it,

1:02:51

subtly. Yep. That's why

1:02:53

the gay agenda has to fight back, Kyle. Mm-hmm.

1:02:56

One library book at a time. Is

1:03:01

it just organization,

1:03:04

like places where men have power?

1:03:06

I'm going back to the sexual

1:03:08

abuse. Yeah. Is

1:03:11

it just any organization where men have

1:03:13

power and boys are the

1:03:16

participants? Like,

1:03:18

is that the recipe for predatory

1:03:20

behavior? It's a pretty low bar

1:03:22

for it. But

1:03:25

I think you're onto something,

1:03:27

right? You look at

1:03:34

corporate executives and the tendency for them to

1:03:37

be sexually

1:03:39

forward with their subordinates and you look at

1:03:42

the priesthood, you look at fraternities and fraternity

1:03:44

culture in a lot of ways. You

1:03:46

look at prison

1:03:49

and power hierarchies that

1:03:52

develop there. Like

1:03:55

there's a tendency for sex. and

1:04:00

domination to be mixed

1:04:02

in a not hot way. Yeah,

1:04:04

yeah. Yeah, why

1:04:06

do people let men be in power? Yeah,

1:04:10

I don't know. No

1:04:12

more straight dudes. No more straight dudes. Never.

1:04:15

No. For anything. Not another

1:04:17

straight dude. Never. Except

1:04:19

for Joe Biden. Yeah. But

1:04:21

for Joe Biden, everybody. For Joe Biden. I

1:04:25

also want to say that from 2002

1:04:27

to 2022, 2022,

1:04:29

from 2002 to 2022, membership

1:04:33

in the Boy Scouts went down

1:04:35

69%. Nice,

1:04:38

nice. Okay,

1:04:41

so it does validate by like, I don't

1:04:43

really hear about the Boy Scouts that much

1:04:45

anymore. Right, they're much, much smaller than they

1:04:47

used to be. Yeah, okay, that makes sense to

1:04:49

me. What

1:04:52

do you got? That's all I got. On

1:04:54

the Patreon segment, I'm gonna be talking about,

1:04:57

there is coming out advice from the Scouts

1:04:59

for Equality that I actually

1:05:01

think is pretty good. So we're gonna talk about the

1:05:03

Scouts coming out advice. Great, awesome. Yeah.

1:05:06

Let's do it. Before we go, we're

1:05:09

gonna play a game. Okay. I've

1:05:11

made a game for you, Kyle. It is

1:05:13

called, Is This Really a Merit Badge? Okay.

1:05:17

Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. I will

1:05:19

name a topic, a subject, and

1:05:21

you will tell me whether yes or no, according

1:05:24

to the scouting.org, is this

1:05:26

a merit badge that you can earn as

1:05:28

a member of the Boy Scouts of America?

1:05:30

Okay. Are you ready? Yep.

1:05:32

First. Art. Yes.

1:05:37

That's correct. Okay. I was

1:05:39

gonna say, that's a pretty generic merit

1:05:41

badge. Next,

1:05:44

basketry. Oh,

1:05:46

yes. Correct. Yeah.

1:05:49

How about dentistry? No.

1:05:53

You can't do dentistry as a child. That

1:05:56

is a badge that one can earn. I'm not sure

1:05:59

what all is in. That's

1:06:01

kind of scary. I don't want

1:06:03

a child in my mouth. We're

1:06:07

going

1:06:10

to pause for that.

1:06:12

Personal fitness. Yes.

1:06:16

That's correct. How

1:06:18

about ice dancing? I

1:06:22

mean, I would say no, but

1:06:24

dentistry was one. So dentistry

1:06:26

is one, sure, ice dancing,

1:06:29

yes. No. How about

1:06:31

welding? I would let people

1:06:33

do ice dancing ahead of

1:06:35

dentistry. I agree. Welding,

1:06:39

yes. You're

1:06:41

fine with a child welding. Yeah,

1:06:44

sure. They just need a mask. You're

1:06:46

correct. That is a badge that one can earn. How

1:06:49

about bugling? Yes.

1:06:53

Correct. It is a merit badge. How

1:06:57

about social media? Oh,

1:06:59

no, they wouldn't want to reward that shit. Correct.

1:07:03

Oh, how about

1:07:05

theater? Yes. That's

1:07:08

correct. Space

1:07:10

exploration. Okay. Is

1:07:12

that just look, I was like, is

1:07:16

that just staring into a telescope into

1:07:18

the sky and being like, look, I

1:07:20

found it. It's right there. It's space.

1:07:22

Well, and why call it space exploration?

1:07:25

Instead of space looking. Observation.

1:07:29

Right. Yeah. I'm going to say yes.

1:07:32

You are correct. Wow. How

1:07:35

about fashion? Oh,

1:07:38

man. But they're so anti-gay, they don't. Why

1:07:41

would they want to reward it? I'm going to go no. That

1:07:44

is correct. How

1:07:47

about truck transportation? That

1:07:49

sounds butch and manly. I'm going to say yes.

1:07:52

You are correct. How

1:07:55

about water sports? Okay.

1:08:00

No, no. It

1:08:03

is a badge that you can earn. What?

1:08:07

No. Water sports. Hey

1:08:09

children, have you earned your water sport badge?

1:08:12

Do you want to? What did you have to do for it?

1:08:15

Oh God. Skating? Well,

1:08:18

ice dancing wasn't one, but maybe

1:08:20

skating is, yes? Correct.

1:08:24

Horsemanship. Okay. Okay.

1:08:28

I guess riding a horse can

1:08:31

be a dude thing. Yes. You're

1:08:34

correct. Ooh. Um, how

1:08:36

about hair and grooming? No,

1:08:39

that's too gay. You're

1:08:41

right, it's too gay. Uh,

1:08:43

chess? Yes. Correct. Motorboating.

1:08:48

Um. Um.

1:08:54

I guess if water sports was one, yes. Correct.

1:08:58

Wow. They need

1:09:00

some, they need, everyone needs a gay

1:09:02

to audit the names of things. Product

1:09:04

names, any kind of names, just to

1:09:06

make sure it's not an innuendo. How

1:09:08

about leatherworking? Yes. Correct. And

1:09:12

last but not least, fingerprinting. I

1:09:16

mean, I guess it's helpful if you're going to

1:09:18

become a detective. So I'll

1:09:20

go yes. Correct. Kyle, you

1:09:22

only missed one, two, three, four, five

1:09:25

out of 22. You

1:09:27

did really well. Thanks. Correct.

1:09:31

Um. Can either surprise

1:09:33

you? Motorboating. And

1:09:35

water sports. Water sports for sure. No,

1:09:37

dentistry. I'm still back on

1:09:40

dentistry. I can't get over that. That

1:09:42

was a no. Now if

1:09:44

we were going to have gayish

1:09:46

agenda badges. Oh. What

1:09:49

ones do you think we would need to have? Water

1:09:52

sports. Water sports. Leather.

1:09:55

Leatherworking. Motorboating.

1:10:00

I mean... And fucking dentistry. Sure,

1:10:02

yeah. Yeah. Listening.

1:10:05

Listening. Shutting the fuck up. Shutting

1:10:08

the fuck up and listening. Glittercraft.

1:10:11

Glittercraft. You

1:10:16

know, just one about giving good hugs. Pole

1:10:19

dancing? Sure. And

1:10:21

jock strapping. We have to call it. Oh,

1:10:23

I like the verb jock

1:10:26

strapping. Yeah. Yeah.

1:10:28

Give us your ideas for gay-ish

1:10:30

badges, y'all. Yeah, they'll be

1:10:32

in the merch store. Boy

1:10:37

Scouts Gay. Okay.

1:10:41

I think... It

1:10:46

doesn't have to be, but it kind

1:10:48

of is. Oh, something I didn't

1:10:51

mention. There was a question

1:10:54

that someone posted to Quora that

1:10:57

said, can my son be a Boy Scout

1:10:59

and not become gay? Oh. Okay.

1:11:03

What was the answer? Someone

1:11:05

gave like a really PC answer that was

1:11:08

like, I am a Boy Scout

1:11:10

and I am heterosexual and it is not to

1:11:12

me to judge it, but yeah. That was a

1:11:14

good answer. Not funny answers. I mean, the truth?

1:11:17

I think those are really interesting. Yeah, it was the truth.

1:11:19

Yeah. Yeah. I

1:11:24

think that like... It's

1:11:27

what this show is about, Kyle, is stereotypes, right? And

1:11:29

so many of our gay and straight stereotypes that we

1:11:31

talk about at the end of the show, at

1:11:33

the end of the day are just masculine and feminine

1:11:35

stereotypes. Yeah. There are a couple of variations, but like

1:11:37

for the most part. And I

1:11:40

think that like Boy Scouts feel

1:11:43

like they're trying a little too hard to be

1:11:45

super butch and that feels gay. Yeah.

1:11:49

Okay. I was wondering to myself why it felt like Boy

1:11:51

Scouts were kind of gay and that

1:11:53

might be one of them in spite of

1:11:55

not allowing gay members for so long. Yeah.

1:11:58

And it's the uniform. And

1:12:01

I think it might be the best little

1:12:03

boy in the world kind of thing of

1:12:05

like the overachieving gay Yeah, that's one of

1:12:07

the avenues you can have to overachieve. Yeah,

1:12:10

I totally agree making Eagle Scout by 15

1:12:13

or whatever the fuck Yeah, Nick that

1:12:15

that boy probably is a little light

1:12:17

and loafers. Yeah Yeah

1:12:20

So you feel it too that there's

1:12:22

something gay about Boy Scouts. Yeah in

1:12:25

spite of themselves. Yeah. Yeah, okay Yeah,

1:12:28

I don't want to call it homoerotic because

1:12:30

that's their boys, right? But like

1:12:32

if there are fraternity vibes in

1:12:35

like to me having but I

1:12:37

wasn't a boy Scott I wasn't a fraternity.

1:12:39

So there's like totally the Potential

1:12:42

for just projection on my part. Yeah, but

1:12:45

it feels just it feels kind of gay.

1:12:47

Yeah, I'd agree It feels kind of gay.

1:12:49

Yeah Did

1:12:52

we do it? Yeah We talked

1:12:54

about Boy Scouts a bunch. Yeah, she should we Take

1:12:57

a break. Take it and build a fire.

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1:14:42

straight couple in front of me Boy

1:14:46

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1:14:48

just The

1:14:50

worst to me is groups of

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friends. That's like three or four

1:14:54

friends Mmm, because they're extra slow

1:14:56

and they take up the entire

1:14:58

fucking sidewalk Yeah, and they're so

1:15:00

oblivious. Yeah. Yeah, cuz they're

1:15:02

in their own world. Yeah. Yeah Slow

1:15:05

walkers man. Yeah move move My

1:15:10

straightest is I have not listened to the Beyonce

1:15:12

album yet That's

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a step towards Achievement.

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Yeah, I have not done even

1:15:20

that. Yeah, I just just heard the couple

1:15:23

of cuts off it. Yeah same here the

1:15:26

straightest thing about me this week is trying

1:15:28

to Upstairs

1:15:31

on the roof of my building is a barbecue

1:15:33

and the propane

1:15:35

tank situation up there like

1:15:38

unscrewing things and screwing other things in because

1:15:40

there's three tanks and two hoses and you've

1:15:42

got to get like a wrench and anyway

1:15:45

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1:15:47

or and the propane gas situation feels

1:15:49

very so straight very but yeah And

1:15:52

then the gayest thing about me this week in

1:15:55

preparation for barbecue working correctly Cooking

1:15:57

making a marinade from scratch. Oh

1:16:00

and putting it in the fridge and having

1:16:02

steaks percolating. That just feels...

1:16:04

it feels gay.

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Yeah, how were they? Don't know yet. Oh,

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still in process. Yeah, still in

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process. Yeah. Okay,

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straightest is helping him and friends move

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furniture to help distract from the fact

1:17:03

my dog moved out with my ex-husband.

1:17:05

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1:17:10

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You also didn't jokingly send it to him.

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a hint. You knew what you were

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doing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'll

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pray for your butt. That's

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it. That's it. We did it.

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A special thank you to all of the

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