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all. athletes

2:00

and fitness influencers are recommending

2:03

CBD gummies or

2:06

topical creams. Now

2:08

it would be entirely fallacious for me

2:10

to buy something just because my favorite

2:13

athlete uses it. That's not just

2:15

because I don't have a favorite athlete. Well joke

2:17

I do. It's Pierce

2:19

LePage who is the world's

2:22

decathlon champion. Why decathlon?

2:24

Well if you listen to the show I'm

2:27

a fan of being well-rounded and

2:29

with 10 events I would say

2:31

this makes for a well-rounded athlete. If

2:34

you're a CrossFit acolyte don't email

2:36

me. Anyway

2:38

enough waffle let's dig into

2:40

CBD. First of all

2:43

what on earth is CBD? Well

2:46

it stands for cannabidiol and

2:48

it's one of over a hundred

2:50

I think 113 chemical components of

2:53

the cannabis plant. Others

2:56

include CBC and THC.

2:58

THC is the compound

3:00

most strongly associated with the psychotropic

3:03

effects of cannabis and

3:05

CBC is marked as being effective

3:08

for pain. Now having a

3:10

look at the website

3:13

for one of the largest CBD

3:15

cream companies specifically targeting

3:17

the fitness and athletic

3:19

market I found a lot

3:21

of rhetoric. So if

3:23

you recall last week or two

3:26

weeks ago I covered ethos pathos

3:28

and logos as rhetorical

3:30

devices in an argument. Logos

3:32

is where you're just using facts and

3:35

evidence. Ethos and pathos are

3:37

appeals to emotion and appeals from a

3:39

voice from authority. What was interesting was

3:41

that in spite of the main holding

3:44

page making statements such as many

3:46

people with chronic pain use our CBD

3:48

products to reduce inflammation and I just

3:50

pain relief. I also

3:52

found them on another page admitting

3:55

that some people believe

3:58

that CBD is useful

4:00

for pain management and then dropped

4:02

a huge pathos bomb which was

4:05

the story of a chronically bedridden

4:07

father who now thanks to

4:09

CBD has a new lease of life.

4:12

They also linked a study showing

4:15

that CBD eased chronic pain. When I

4:17

actually read the study it

4:19

only had 15 participants and

4:22

all of those participants showed a

4:25

greater response to pain management when

4:27

they were told that they'd taken

4:29

CBD but were actually taking

4:31

a placebo. Therefore the

4:33

study concluded and I quote CBD

4:36

analgesia was driven by

4:38

psychological expectancies. I was

4:42

actually quite keen to see

4:44

if I could uncover any

4:46

evidence at all that CBD

4:48

products meet their claims. Remember

4:52

before sending me any links that

4:55

a blog post written by a CBD

4:57

company is an evidence. Studies

4:59

only please and also remember

5:02

that you're taking a CBD gummy before

5:04

bed for a couple of days also

5:06

isn't a study. Thank

5:08

you. Now I did myself

5:10

find a 2019 meta-analysis of 83 different

5:15

studies done on CBD for symptoms of

5:17

anxiety which is another one of the

5:20

major selling points for these companies. The

5:23

conclusion of that meta analysis was that

5:26

there is a sufficient lack of

5:28

evidence that cannabidiol

5:30

improves disorders. There

5:32

remains insufficient evidence to

5:34

provide guidance on the use of

5:37

cannabinoids within a regulatory framework.

5:41

A 2019 study in a Canadian

5:43

medical cannabis setting of 205 chronic

5:45

pain sufferers concluded

5:48

that further investigation is

5:50

required but as of now the

5:53

hyped and often illegally

5:55

marketed claims of CBD as

5:57

a wellness product are unsubstantiated.

6:00

So there you have it. As

6:02

always, my goal is to have a question

6:04

which in this case was do CBD products

6:07

work for pain and recovery? Then

6:09

I look for evidence of weight and currency to

6:11

back this up. Then look

6:14

for evidence or claims against that

6:16

position and conclude or leave listeners

6:18

to conclude. In this

6:20

case, just like with many of the

6:22

other expensive and unregulated products out there,

6:25

there is no quality evidence

6:28

that supports CBD use for pain

6:30

management. Most of the

6:33

companies selling CBD products have

6:35

made the claim that there are no studies being

6:37

done on the human effects of CBD. I

6:40

would say a meta-analysis of 83 studies

6:42

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I noted in previous episodes about products

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that make very broad claims, it's a

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bit of a red flag for me

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when it's claimed that a

7:43

single gummy bear will help

7:45

pain, seizures, anxiety, sleep issues,

7:48

mental health, PTSD, and skin

7:50

problems. It's very

7:52

rare that we'll find a Swiss Army

7:54

knife type product that addresses

7:56

everything in one. With

7:59

the self-proclaimed purist and most

8:01

broad spectrum CBD products costing in

8:03

excess of a hundred bucks a

8:05

month, it's easy to see why

8:07

companies would want to get on the CBD bandwagon.

8:10

Unfortunately because of economic conditions

8:13

and because of ethos claims

8:15

to authority working, we

8:18

see many athletes and influencers recommending

8:20

CBD and getting a kickback through

8:22

the discount code. I know

8:24

one such athlete and her

8:26

position is that even if it's

8:29

placebo it's not harmful. No

8:31

one's going to have an adverse reaction

8:33

to CBD health wise and actually it's

8:35

on the customers to do their due

8:37

diligence. I can't say I

8:40

agree just because you can't

8:42

do something doesn't mean you should and if

8:44

I make a claim about a product which

8:46

can be proven to be false then

8:48

in some territories that would be a basis

8:50

for legal intervention against the false claims. There

8:54

also could be some negative

8:56

side effects from CBD particularly

8:58

in large dozies. I

9:01

do also want to note though quite rightly

9:03

someone may email me to bring it up

9:06

that although CBD gummies sprays and

9:08

creams being sold for pain and

9:10

anxiety have literally no evidence

9:12

and are most likely a very

9:15

expensive placebo, there

9:17

is a pharmaceutically derived

9:19

CBD product. It's

9:21

called Epidiolex and

9:23

it's used in the US and Europe

9:25

in conjunction with other medications to

9:28

aid in controlling seizures brought

9:30

about by three quite rare

9:33

conditions. It's very potent stuff

9:36

compared with what you might buy off Amazon so

9:38

please don't read the study that Epidiolex

9:41

works for some seizures and

9:43

then extrapolate and assume this means

9:45

CBD gummies will work for yours. The

9:48

starting dose only of Epidiolex

9:50

for 200 pound person, I use 200 pounds

9:53

because I weigh 200 pounds, is 450 milligrams

9:55

a day

9:59

and after a week that would be bumped up to 900

10:02

milligrams a day. To put that

10:04

into context, CBD products that

10:06

you buy off the internet for

10:08

anxiety or pain have 25 milligrams

10:10

in each serving. So

10:12

this drug at starting dose would have

10:15

between 18 and 36 times

10:17

the amount of CBD you'd be consuming in

10:19

a day. Also,

10:23

please bear in mind the legal

10:25

status of CBD in your locality.

10:28

I lived in Hong Kong for over a decade and

10:31

in February 2023, Hong Kong

10:33

banned all CBD products, including

10:36

those for academic and

10:38

scientific research because of

10:40

the high prevalence of CBD products

10:43

actually being tainted with

10:45

THC, which is the

10:47

psychoactive chemical in cannabis. THC

10:50

is illegal in that territory. So

10:53

bear in mind that if you do

10:55

decide to go and take an expensive

10:57

placebo before bed each night, you may

10:59

run into problems with the law. If

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