This is a very special, non-canonical, episode of Gettin' Air: The Open Pedagogy Podcast. It was originally recorded as a visit by Terry Greene, Christian Metaxas, Dana Jamaleddine, and Asa Reynolds to Stephen Hurley's live morning radio show "Hurley In The Morning". In this chat we describe the Liberated Learner Project, which is in development, and our plans to host a problem-causing design sprint that will feed the creation of this new Ontario Extend project (aka Ontario Extend, But For Learners This Time).