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2:00

welcome to getting serious i'm jonathan been

2:02

as in every week as a camper gorgeous

2:04

conversation with a brilliant experts

2:07

to learn all about something that makes

2:09

me curious on stays episode

2:11

enjoy my doctor mona chetry where

2:14

i asked her what life was

2:16

in the eastern similar that

2:20

look into getting here is this is jonathan baron as

2:22

i am so excited for today's episode

2:25

and also sang away

2:27

and interview people interview australia when australia

2:29

was in australia but australia don't know that i've ever interviewed

2:32

someone for getting serious on serious was in the seat and

2:34

they were in australia so without any further

2:36

ideals welcome doctor mona chetry

2:38

it's who is a postdoctoral fellow at

2:41

the university of western australia

2:43

see researchers the intersection of

2:45

development gender politics

2:47

and environmental transformation in the

2:49

eastern heavily in borderlands as

2:52

india and nepal okay

2:54

doctor treachery german code after treachery mona

2:56

had your me to call uber the rest margaret

2:59

of the time together

3:00

modern science even more in find my

3:02

spent com uma oh my gosh what

3:05

my closest friends name is money into and we

3:07

come from oh i'm so i love that

3:09

sorry i also call her move girls but

3:11

i'm in a call you moan i'll keep a professional my

3:14

phone number moment as a good ah

3:16

that's okay of a are coming to our lives

3:20

as , surprised

3:22

as he gets me every time

3:24

recording you said that it was very hot

3:26

over the years

3:27

now here yeah it's

3:29

been a crazy summer of incense

3:32

see where the spin slugs

3:34

it on the east coast and west school system

3:36

maybe hot hot hot

3:38

summer but door is gonna be cooler

3:40

apparently can't wait for it to be tomorrow

3:42

already sale go to that turquoise beads

3:45

that i went to court thoughts the

3:47

know planet so that

3:49

between the next level so pretty

3:53

them the some sense of amazing to die

3:55

for in the snow say that as that's the one of them

3:57

the beautiful thing who's ever it is it

3:59

better

4:00

like that turquoise the water and like

4:02

obsessed with

4:03

liquid water and it was really like

4:05

a cool shade of water

4:07

okay but work this is now i

4:09

say this as weird as the or something is

4:11

it is so interesting i talk

4:13

about this a lot and getting serious i come from like a cornfield

4:16

as a small town of like thirty thousand forty

4:18

thousand people the himalayan

4:20

mountains salt lake this fifteen

4:23

world the way and like some that i only read about in

4:25

the news by didn't really ever understand

4:27

that i'm so curious about the

4:29

history and and temporarily

4:31

like what's going on and that which to be any

4:33

more qualified to talk to us about that my word

4:36

so can we start off with the i

4:38

just letting us know where are

4:40

the eastern emily and borderlands in the first

4:42

place

4:43

i'll try my best to answer

4:45

your questions again that is

4:47

quite an extensive sort of this in

4:50

, of geography and in terms of is

4:52

t and cause in terms of contemporary

4:54

politics and what's going on is open to set

4:56

up an alzheimer's best am on a just to take the

4:58

pressure off between this is very

5:00

like you know you're like a literal extra

5:03

like a literal done after this worth that we're talking

5:05

last on your high level we're talking like a

5:08

like a you're a entry level and you don't have the

5:10

lights were the lights meal over

5:12

here are getting carry a so does this are

5:15

effectively and borderlands services

5:17

great sad to know that you're serious about

5:19

it because our theories about why don't you choose

5:22

the there's no one seems to be serious about

5:24

where we are

5:25

you know a lot of the day before they just

5:27

nepal let people know interested in nepal

5:30

where we come from where i come from

5:32

i'm is the eternal of as which stretches

5:35

from he couldn't

5:37

a bar with daily two passes

5:39

india defense in bhutan and then

5:41

it unfair like an extended part of northeast

5:43

india the state of are not as for the of

5:46

course in academia you know there's never

5:48

a sort of the contents of

5:50

unwed one begins one begins end and

5:53

for a lot of people also considered maintenance

5:55

as

5:55

it normal as extent own way to

5:58

add other parts of ne

5:59

ender and then to as me and my area

6:02

that i study is to nepal

6:04

we can guy healing have you heard of

6:06

that you think that i can see yes

6:08

adam and then put on

6:10

the country that encapsulate

6:12

like the eastern emily and borderlands conflict

6:15

but on the parts of india

6:17

boot time nepal

6:19

and also kind i can apply to all

6:21

at

6:22

the tibetan autonomous region the day i

6:24

possibly can also be considered a

6:27

decent emma let's see the own political

6:29

borders but if you think of it in terms

6:31

of geography is this mountain

6:33

a reason the mountain is

6:36

not at the mountain

6:37

the bad news and the planes also

6:39

that make up the east and himalayas the

6:41

idea of border in that reason

6:44

thomas' the british bit of

6:45

that he cannot handle that there is no

6:47

a hardcore border

6:49

like other village wasn't

6:51

village lethal on this on this bottle of bhutan

6:54

inevitably be like wasn't aware about of cities massively

6:57

the very limited space as any like

6:59

exists

6:59

the liberties are like oh my god what is

7:01

going on here so we

7:03

need to make sure that we have borders

7:05

methodical borders and answer that

7:08

when he starts deforming to read

7:11

and that embodies come into this into this you're setting

7:13

in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth century

7:15

and then when early twentieth century we

7:17

seem certification of

7:20

the british mean that

7:22

introduces them and

7:24

the over there too fierce episode of getting

7:26

creates an about like not

7:28

ancient chinese history but like early chinese

7:30

history one thing we learned that it was like much

7:32

smaller than like what about contemporary like

7:34

mainland china so prior

7:37

to the british what was happening

7:39

like in eastern emily like but the

7:41

word they came

7:43

the thing in our we like to think

7:45

down but he streamed down the v it's

7:47

and things like that

7:48

dr pepper paste

7:50

one was about understand is that

7:52

lot of the times known as actually raising

7:55

these things doesn't fit for

7:57

a lot of they are toxicity that

7:59

in the already

8:01

that's the thing to keep in

8:03

mind when we both of the

8:06

to be especially in

8:08

of he started the leaves this leaves this of current political

8:11

a lot of the signs are we find

8:12

it also that you don't have

8:14

a lot of it is manufacturers

8:16

hey for that the something to keep in mind

8:18

especially in the context of cultures that have had

8:21

only oral history so

8:22

before the british game

8:25

if we were to like look at the

8:27

history the the sort of them what

8:29

we know about me that that because just like you

8:31

i didn't say as i learned

8:33

about fucking to shoot or the history

8:36

of be similar only us i left

8:38

sikkim because i never studied that in school

8:40

or anything as the history that we

8:42

study is mostly

8:44

the

8:45

we can often be fun that way through

8:47

never learned

8:48

lord of the social history

8:49

a woman going on in there was

8:51

that the as they were principalities

8:53

the rulers com and

8:55

then he was a feudal system

8:57

i'm doing nothing

8:59

group have a living there were in the

9:01

game and

9:02

again this is a is a tricky

9:04

situation because them of

9:07

a lot of politics content your politics

9:09

is related to fool with

9:12

their service men move belongs

9:14

to that space though it's quite

9:15

the contentious doozy of

9:18

who went mad definitely face

9:20

right but of course according to history and

9:23

and or history added in history

9:25

or we had like a indigenous few indigenous

9:27

groups are leaving the eu ,

9:29

be handing seeking for instance on the kingdom of

9:31

bhutan on sunday came from tibet pregnant

9:34

of the lord across migration there was a lot

9:36

of family contact there's a lot of religious

9:38

connection of the money them to be

9:41

a team taking the time time

9:43

, to bed bath and the

9:45

right into connections that has and this is an important

9:48

thing when i think of the region is that

9:50

for a long time consuming and

9:52

remote and backward

9:54

and very far away but what is actually

9:57

been going on his back when you got her

9:59

on

9:59

and if the council go through and

10:02

though up an accident or more with ultimate

10:05

run a band with the indian mean meant more

10:07

towards the

10:08

nor can be he's an infant

10:10

every day's a popular

10:13

causes more influenced by korea a

10:16

pop out of that is super super

10:18

league as

10:20

anything though there are influences modern

10:23

don't you know the know the salvation

10:25

influences racer that's really interesting

10:28

and how this continued even how

10:30

these sorts of connection that we see

10:32

way back in the past have transformed

10:35

but also i can often seen him in it's own

10:37

now than when you a thousand bombs

10:39

the to everyone if you're not driving right now

10:42

i just encourage you to light are

10:45

you can i just like how to pull up a map i was

10:47

it's a clean i got to get all up and this map like

10:49

i need to like so

10:52

interesting i cannot even see and it so cool

10:55

so the british had their

10:57

own agenda for differences

10:59

are seeking brain sentence he was

11:01

and access to tibet prices

11:03

i wanted to open trade the enemy

11:06

the great american process is completed

11:08

defense nothing

11:09

abbott

11:11

what in other parts of india using

11:14

, that matter was actually is used to be

11:16

apart of citizen but that was colonized

11:18

and forty forty

11:21

so the history of this events

11:24

and it's allies and partners in in the

11:26

interest in the thing that fees and is

11:28

then he married an independent

11:30

on what the agenda to

11:32

finish was at that time for

11:35

that reason or another how

11:37

colonization conceded to the moon countries

11:39

is easier to schools and education

11:42

and

11:45

lord a person missions gaming

11:47

to the reserve the open schools and

11:49

and visa every day a

11:51

prestigious schools even now so

11:53

lot of people want to send begins

11:56

to the such as good as an open the missionaries

11:58

are so the negative

12:04

american hope cook he listened

12:06

to say you've definitely got a meta i

12:08

don't understand how american became a queen

12:10

as somewhere and and didn't get super famous were

12:13

obsessed with like someone who goes a bit of

12:15

the clean split see was

12:17

a hand about myself but i do have a little royalty

12:19

moment i hated that i love it but i do

12:22

i don't know what my problem is

12:23

the day that doesn't then zero

12:26

on march nineteen sixty see

12:28

it's all about the movie

12:31

is that the royal family of

12:34

now

12:35

okay lab she's giving brooke see

12:37

loads sincere

12:39

super embassies cr so

12:42

neither yeah nope we all must understand

12:44

better like geographically where seek

12:46

him darjeeling and then like east nepal are

12:49

is like the uk like more popular

12:52

in some places like oh yeah they did as a saw the than

12:54

other places like as fuck and he them more

12:56

than the blaze i think it's about

12:58

said group of people because

13:01

of cause i'm sure the landowners

13:03

the feudal lords lot he

13:05

graduates debate is enabled

13:08

was migration author

13:11

allowed only and

13:13

not allowed the the enabled movement

13:15

of people from each the minibar i

13:18

don't bomb on would work

13:21

the d plantations and to work

13:23

as liberal he

13:26

doing and in other regions right

13:28

so it's it's not about let the player

13:30

we will rival we love the beach but it's

13:32

what about class will section

13:35

of the society love that more

13:37

the landowners now

13:38

except like never move ahead

13:40

what happened

13:42

with british colonies

13:45

, sent his the

13:47

movement

13:48

people because

13:50

the know development in that

13:52

sense seven development

13:53

the of agriculture well as agriculture in sick

13:55

and spend a plantation on

13:58

earth economy in as

13:59

right to that allow people to

14:02

think for more of a class the even then

14:04

switch

14:04

talk about

14:05

indonesia as much as

14:07

you probably should be talking about last baby talk

14:09

more about ah

14:12

need to the

14:13

none that stuff the most defining

14:17

a photo from season

14:19

for iraq for us as

14:21

in that's more important than anything so

14:23

in the eastern himalayan borderlands between like

14:25

seek and are healing the easement hall what

14:28

are some of the key like so

14:30

soul and cultural and political

14:32

features plate of these places

14:34

that leads said be more aware of in

14:36

in talking about more whom were thinking about

14:39

the eastern him away

14:41

it's a fascinating because i the study

14:44

b c as the bottom line is states

14:46

and of course at the bottom men were

14:49

the

14:50

people have the same ethnic group live

14:52

across that

14:53

right i haven't thought cancer

14:55

connection is a fool you know people

14:58

celebrate the same festival was the same

15:00

land similar language same language at the settlers

15:02

it's us under gotta do not have encountered

15:05

was simply

15:06

it wouldn't really interesting

15:08

was that despite the similar

15:11

the the way me

15:13

and i

15:15

then to say around and

15:17

and when we and ,

15:20

be play out of politics

15:22

is completely different men

15:24

so

15:25

the princes used to give an example whole

15:27

the than their families living on either

15:30

side of and the file voters for there's

15:32

been about within the fall and as a lot

15:34

of indemnify leave of the living in

15:36

india and and shooting rampage how

15:38

we identify who we are

15:41

as citizens the which go to our thirties the computer

15:43

the similar

15:47

go to the lessons for

15:49

your could our family member

15:51

you would never do that you're nothing

15:54

we would make sure that we be

15:56

like know that an indian

15:57

adam home

15:59

got something

15:59

that razor thin the bottle and people

16:02

choose certain identities based

16:05

on their location of them

16:08

of which into the business

16:10

eventually he belonged to the

16:12

sp groups also he did

16:14

as it is that because

16:16

that border guys tablets and there's

16:18

like a gigantic mountain it's like increase

16:20

like a physical distance or feel

16:22

like it is that way become so like

16:26

geographically based like

16:28

the cancer or and the politics teams

16:31

between

16:35

the see it can be

16:38

you begin play

16:40

the quantity eight different

16:42

women who doesn't on geography cove

16:45

sort of separation even if it's

16:47

what this one single plane of

16:50

the politics is differing to speak

16:52

at all one how

16:54

your relationship with the state he's

16:57

in a month because people belong

16:59

to different state try people belong to different

17:01

countries and within those spaces

17:04

in that state or that country

17:07

feed you read and what benefits

17:09

can you get so it all depends

17:11

on local politics i want to ask a question

17:13

but i'm scared and it's like stupid time

17:16

i think i'm asking

17:19

the

17:19

though

17:21

he com is his own

17:25

i'm sorry or isn't

17:27

part of

17:29

then d ah

17:30

no

17:33

yeah

17:35

it used to be his own independent

17:37

kingdom up to nineteen seventy five

17:40

mm became of ah

17:41

on india mean name's

17:43

any say the

17:46

air closer we we we we

17:48

managed to is in this

17:50

immense only by with a peaceful merged

17:52

or like and not as he emerged as was of

17:54

his home he was it was that these boomers

17:57

are but it's also becomes histories

17:59

interesting in our location

18:01

or because if you look at the map again we

18:03

are right next like we seek out

18:06

as a some and right next

18:08

to ten that i do

18:11

that i don't the top and then movement nippon

18:13

one thousand on on wednesday address so

18:15

that the

18:16

if it took that region has really

18:18

got to do with the border is also

18:21

for how and trade deals

18:23

with his citizen his the best

18:25

me people living people living body

18:26

it's really got into the geopolitics

18:29

of the region and see that india

18:32

is like a big power player and

18:34

the geopolitics said the region same

18:36

as a big power a player

18:39

mm what to time

18:40

the independent

18:41

no country i'll bet

18:43

it's also like and it would and about i know

18:45

sort of the time it's similar

18:47

situation because they are between two big

18:49

major reasons balance so

18:52

they're alliances keep getting they said someone

18:55

said to another you know and

18:57

so it's it's they

18:59

that because boy been beaten and nevada's

19:01

now i'm getting more clear now i'm getting clearly

19:03

okay so you got the part of india but still

19:05

it's on like independent like historical concerts

19:08

is like own and of editing bhutan

19:10

is still his own kingdom and

19:12

in nepal his own country via boom

19:14

in tibet

19:18

right now but it it and

19:20

m s

19:22

like tibetan autonomous region since

19:25

b c o i think

19:27

if i'm not mistaken but in the way

19:29

that sees them as a part of india it's about the part

19:31

of china but still has it's own like ritz like

19:33

local and layouts rose after you

19:36

yeah absolutely

19:38

and became his

19:40

said our rights

19:42

are protected by in the constitution

19:44

nice to there's a special permitted with his the indian

19:47

constitution websites and menzies

19:49

and on law is what is known as old

19:51

as rhyme so it's related to property

19:53

tax an inheritance

19:56

visa system

19:57

who can bomb and living fucking

19:59

more to come by broken you to we

20:02

fill

20:02

they need to think that it

20:04

i feel like i really am getting it's i

20:06

just that's what i met when i said earlier were like this

20:08

is going to be real sixth grade and pretend like

20:12

he and a nightmare and i need to learn

20:14

like real be thanks for permission to collect

20:16

the silly for zimmerman every so this this

20:19

this those i can do that no one talks about

20:21

this for me because i think this is that really

20:24

interesting because a lot

20:25

the time that very little less known

20:27

about the region and what

20:29

we do

20:30

all in all foods may romanticized

20:33

i saw a lot of the times assists

20:35

the mows down the

20:37

monks the red panda

20:40

the people know and talk languages there's nothing

20:42

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20:44

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i didn't know you have like a better understanding

23:13

of like a little bit as a history a little

23:15

bit of like the physical location

23:18

these places yes

23:21

how is how is it

23:24

kind of now it's a very

23:26

ruthless and bias because that's my

23:28

home

23:29

hey it's a spacex

23:32

filming really really fast food

23:35

than one of the biggest reason is and we've got better

23:37

infrastructure and technology read so we

23:39

are now in an attempt to the was

23:41

it easier for was come to us so

23:45

it's it's

23:45

the great

23:47

any changing so fast

23:50

says i think when we talk

23:52

with colonization in the reason one thing

23:54

again is that colonization

23:57

doesn't end up at the base leave

23:59

and night and forty three

23:59

the brand for a new type of

24:02

colonies

24:02

the thing that happens in his new

24:04

colonization that

24:06

good thing you know everything that a bit

24:08

is being is so that they can expect more

24:10

from that is to make their own life

24:12

easier it's not for

24:13

anyone else on to

24:16

from say what we see

24:18

that you know the society is changing a little

24:20

be and we see

24:21

neil ethnic groups

24:24

coming into the returns as

24:26

increase in population of these

24:28

places

24:29

or enough to the british li

24:31

a hero we

24:33

the lot of i can get

24:35

investments in the region as if is

24:37

something additional that's great

24:39

we we being allowed through

24:42

, company's coming into the winter

24:44

think have a seat

24:46

on the hoping that the middle eastern opponent

24:48

or the finish

24:49

the the bunny slope it was union companies

24:51

that came in in the other ones running

24:53

the princess and said arm and

24:56

sikkim lol we see that for the longest

24:58

i mean didn't have a lot of industries

25:00

that now we have a lot of fun

25:02

i'm people that funny

25:05

our and one of the biggest danger

25:07

is one of the biggest drivers of change in the

25:09

region across that isn't actually

25:12

to with them

25:13

athena been tories and whatever

25:15

that means

25:16

three other meet other things

25:18

and i'm

25:19

nice job and it's been a

25:23

good , of like a new

25:25

study this new study disease or defect convenient

25:27

long term family history

25:30

where we were entered the

25:32

if you know where we way

25:34

the way back in early twenties pictures

25:36

to where we are

25:37

no his no

25:39

difference is that it has to make waves

25:42

understand this place would be

25:44

cool

25:46

the urban development fact of tourism

25:49

and

25:50

meet other thing that i really

25:52

driving the scenes and fascination

25:55

of this place and of course migration

25:58

etc

25:59

oh

25:59

the people either

26:01

the villagers athena

26:03

waiting far too

26:05

didn't really young

26:07

women by my out my really to

26:09

work in pharmaceuticals received

26:11

an all ingredients and symptoms

26:13

and phantasm needed phantasm key things that

26:15

are happening are happening space

26:17

and it's happened within his face

26:19

beautiful you find this ongoing

26:21

father when he was working

26:24

it's over the last falcons

26:26

he didn't have any power they have electricity

26:30

in her own last time we've

26:32

gone from having a drink for night electricity

26:35

to has emerged in of anything wrong

26:38

airport at all these sorts of things

26:40

mobile phone that these are that and all of this happened

26:42

at dinner for easy shots condensed feared

26:46

the put the bring the total problems out

26:48

of the his political borders impact day to day

26:50

life say and like a price or like

26:52

availability of goods or like interactions

26:55

with local authorities have like obtaining those

26:57

things

27:00

india and nepal has a friendship

27:03

treaty

27:03

the bali indonesia fixing to treaty which

27:06

means that people can come and go and

27:08

work as between

27:09

two countries fairly with

27:11

said who died and it's also the

27:13

same square he

27:15

the relatively easy to get into

27:17

the dance on the

27:20

border and sell a

27:23

, to day basis points

27:26

within am

27:27

indiana and india

27:29

it is easy to go back and

27:31

forth on

27:34

the thing when it comes to like him and he said

27:36

into a murdered with china

27:39

i'm going up north that's

27:41

when more difficult

27:44

and more contentious say so it's been

27:46

difficult to access those spaces

27:48

on

27:49

the things you know as a foreigner as

27:51

if you wanna going the game you need not

27:54

only a visa to endemic you need a special

27:56

permits to going to see him and

27:58

even within seconds

27:59

that you can go to was

28:02

cast always a thing

28:04

or really became a thing like

28:07

what's the deal with past

28:09

oh

28:12

i'm an undermining the

28:15

speakers is speakers bad old

28:17

and important

28:18

he didn't an emergency fund of seem to society

28:21

but you gotta remember that to them

28:23

out we've got his own group of

28:25

people who are not seen those rates

28:27

and the i do this status and

28:29

their enemies to follow the

28:31

the the indigenous really

28:32

no an

28:35

important part of hindus society

28:39

probably for us in the reason

28:42

for us it's not as a job is

28:44

a lot of alberta you know how structures

28:46

social relationships that as

28:49

it is probably not as prominent

28:51

as in other parts of south

28:53

asia i see yeah

28:55

it still exists to dictate

28:58

would weaken mati re the not inputs house

29:00

you can eat and things i've i've been really a shame because

29:02

of that yeah so you can't i go to like somebody

29:04

elses out of their not in the same

29:06

cast or whatever to god

29:08

the a some people can be really

29:10

that is about it and

29:12

then knew they would be level we know i

29:14

won't drink water drink your house and eat pudding

29:16

house because you cannot you cannot us to the

29:18

prevalence of tasked with n like

29:21

hindu culture might did

29:23

that have a rub off on the other people's culture

29:25

was it really kind of like very can find a hindu

29:29

as a think it's they can sign

29:31

to hinduism that's ,

29:33

understanding my reading of the same same

29:36

what has happened is a lot of people refer

29:38

to go bad safra

29:40

converted to prefer

29:41

the author doesn't mean

29:43

the guy's christian he doesn't recognize a new piece

29:46

is this could be one

29:48

of the reasons why he there's a whole lot

29:50

of conversion the to as

29:52

christianity because presented life

29:55

it doesn't get hurt any

29:57

of these sorts of things also license

29:59

or

29:59

burning in the fiery pit of hell for

30:02

the rest of eternity is like also pretty

30:04

convincing you

30:06

, that really works for me and

30:08

sec yeah of advice i thought

30:11

i don't wanna wanna i feel you

30:13

know top secret leads us today and so scared

30:15

i scared to the not quite sure but

30:17

like the guy with a falling out of a plane or something

30:19

like to find out as the outside

30:22

like i wouldn't like

30:25

it , would wouldn't like like other guy

30:29

you so sad as though that decision

30:31

or

30:32

i'm here that's really interesting also

30:34

you know because his for a lot of people

30:37

and against was back to my moral concerns

30:39

me because as for lot of

30:41

people you know

30:43

go on know what bought him doing

30:45

it's it's not written down the thought by

30:47

from minutes it's front

30:49

the benefits of a lot of people little

30:51

the gonna told me the fact that there is

30:53

a book the bible that you can read

30:56

that says exactly what bodied what god

30:58

is doing one good deed sundance

31:00

that gives them a lot of

31:03

see how and any and support

31:05

to play found that's what defines attractive

31:08

on about christianity scary

31:10

stuff in there though honey i got my

31:12

sister as a whole situation so

31:14

then the like what about

31:17

like gender and sexuality

31:19

like how does that come into play like we love

31:21

to ask about gays that's in other cultures

31:23

it's like when my favorite things to learn about appears

31:26

death like is there any like gorgeous

31:29

your sexuality happening or like

31:31

with the zealand i seem so

31:34

i'm editing a book or gender and

31:36

sexual another identity isn't the monitors

31:38

oh

31:39

me an inventory

31:42

said

31:42

then he always such as from the read

31:44

it on fed to

31:45

the other parts of lindsay india and

31:48

the reason why we come from the northeast

31:50

a bit of india

31:51

rather than

31:53

block fi hey while

31:56

women have opportunities and

31:58

more freedom didn't want

32:01

like edu who went to do was

32:03

to do

32:04

we we want to manage of

32:06

say nothing the also

32:08

a lot of space i think

32:11

for different identities

32:14

the having said that is silicon them

32:17

this this so we do

32:19

he did not have seen emerging

32:21

now we have seen emerging right now

32:23

and it's really cool how

32:26

the young people have some space

32:28

to do

32:29

what they wanted to into the leave their

32:31

authentic lines and you know it's you he goes

32:33

to see that happening again it's a very small

32:36

the person and again it's all the

32:39

people who has the

32:41

let my understanding is that people who

32:44

again

32:44

he went off of web

32:47

access to end the language

32:49

of the internet

32:51

the the he few

32:53

sadly enough

32:55

they did about how you present

32:57

yourself and you know if you know the lingo

32:59

the language of bill

33:01

open to discussion the conversations

33:04

and then you're a kind of like fine

33:06

and even celebrated but i think for

33:08

their everyday average person

33:11

who's trying to establish

33:13

of bring their own identity it might be quiet

33:15

and for some films us class is

33:17

quite important it is so speaking

33:19

of die and like

33:22

this area and although these

33:24

a lake louise a himalaya or himalayas

33:27

the money i see

33:29

but i do but i would say himalayas

33:31

and himalayan are they both

33:34

okay

33:35

our goal is you can just

33:37

see him alone but i think i learned that

33:39

would nile as as own it either advance

33:42

so unless so when it comes

33:44

season as like the eastern himalaya

33:46

and

33:47

when i'm thinking i'm in a different identities

33:49

and house this to part of like

33:52

bigger , it was like seen as more free but it's

33:54

so kind of conservative as

33:57

we were to zoom out and look at society

33:59

as at society

34:00

how do ones overlapping i didn't these

34:02

like save their experience so

34:04

like at the beginning we were saying like well

34:07

you know was it really so much of a distinct the era

34:09

and with colonization of like where you were

34:11

in society like the ever property owner like

34:13

than you are really gonna like and if you are someone who is

34:15

a be more the margins and you really weren't gonna probably

34:17

like it as much so like in

34:19

general just anderson in

34:22

i guess i could take a stab is it says

34:24

hey man who home power

34:26

oh absolutely

34:29

hopefully soccer who

34:31

else was i definitely got like of course

34:33

i do is exactly

34:36

that is this

34:36

that you know and this is what is the late

34:39

so for all of modernity and on education

34:41

then it's birnbaum

34:44

oh my

34:45

the films for us was still in

34:47

positions of power that you know and it's

34:49

insists if shady sadly here

34:53

you know me a few to do whatever we want to do

34:55

we have free to wear whatever

34:57

we want our were and all of these says that

34:59

it does the that so having political power

35:01

and agencies to

35:03

the men and nine is that like that governor

35:06

like a president who gets elected and and like

35:08

reports to india like how does how

35:10

how did i get all the politics or to that

35:13

it the but seeking

35:15

we've gotta one do

35:17

or what have we call it the chief minister was is like the

35:19

premiere of the state is a democracy right

35:21

so me and we

35:24

elect every figure

35:26

as the next person but for them

35:29

a very long time and

35:32

we've had the same we have the

35:34

same

35:35

unlike the last chief minister though he

35:37

has ruled for twenty five

35:39

men

35:40

oh really like it all of us

35:42

felt a bit like his innocence know the moment

35:45

you know is going on stay at ease of

35:47

the this idea is that we the list

35:49

people and it's the monkey thirty

35:51

political system so you know you can

35:53

have as many political parties every

35:57

now and will

35:58

that britain

35:59

that's to innocent or is accountable

36:02

to the central government in hinder

36:04

any during a woman elected

36:06

to that are like in the cabinet or something

36:09

not slaves to the mean

36:12

position of the premiere or that she finished

36:14

out but of course you have to by law there

36:17

is a sudden

36:18

for abortion of for

36:20

people getting the ministry are

36:22

in the cabinet has to be women and

36:25

the people think this is my problem

36:27

is that

36:28

very perfunctory it's only like on to

36:31

him to sit in a less to be specifically minister

36:33

says how women and women

36:35

i've we we have to have any be let's say five

36:37

women in the

36:39

open and or whatever so let me think we just to

36:41

the bare minimum

36:43

if you know it's it's gonna do with the kind of political

36:45

system we haven't visited also got to do with so

36:48

women and their interests and indeed

36:51

the

36:53

they did go into doing things

36:55

in net

36:56

or is it nice society italy like

36:58

it hasn't been encouraged like

37:00

and so it is so we we know the empowerment

37:03

usually so who isn't

37:05

the margins currently in the eastern

37:08

himalaya that means more support i'm

37:11

the think

37:13

of course women

37:16

and people of iraq

37:19

the identities it but

37:22

also just

37:26

you know people in a lot

37:28

more support i feel especially because

37:31

he seems a lot all birds

37:34

so that a lot of unemployment

37:37

and

37:38

a lot of pressure

37:40

he wouldn't be a young person is find

37:42

a new it

37:44

they did you add this

37:45

the whole idea of how in here

37:47

to be successful and

37:50

you have to have a job and new the nearly support your

37:52

family and things i was at these all these pressures

37:55

s oh and then you don't have

37:57

a lot of things that you can do some this is what

37:59

is other than

37:59

the eating to alcohol this and

38:01

young people mans

38:03

or whether it be from

38:05

and villages to urban areas

38:08

all from urban areas to bigger city

38:11

three seen a lot of admiration

38:13

of young people so yes that the about com

38:15

i get because women and other minorities as

38:17

a young people need a lot of support

38:20

no difficult and opportunities

38:22

i think if we weren't as good enough

38:25

if you want to

38:27

build a do that

38:28

not only to be invested into

38:31

it uses place at actually this perfectly

38:33

where we're going next which

38:35

as development

38:37

in the region now

38:41

the screening oil on showtime the new

38:44

comedy series i learned that for

38:46

you

38:47

hi i'm vanessa say and molly shannon

38:49

i'm jennifer laws have

38:51

never worked with anyone player than these

38:53

two ladies you are in are sea and

38:59

how many this from

39:03

are you run out of harms because

39:05

are cast

39:07

there are you streaming

39:10

now

39:10

on certain

39:12

so we see that like out migration

39:15

is an issue lack

39:17

, access to an

39:20

upper economic mobility as an issue

39:22

is is other issues are

39:25

people facing the is that like is it transportation

39:28

is that access to like you said earlier

39:30

like for lgbtq people like if

39:32

you have access to the internet like you need to have

39:34

some sort of the the like capital or the social

39:37

capital somewhere for access these

39:39

things to get this abscess understand

39:41

we're going on in the world though as it's have

39:43

access to information

39:46

make that kind of one of the main things

39:48

that people are up against

39:49

i think the big problem is because

39:52

of location the jokes on the

39:54

guess it it says difficult to establish

39:57

anything

39:58

hey food to have different

39:59

the than things like that

40:02

for the longest same

40:06

but i've been relying on agriculture and

40:09

or on these deep limitations no matter

40:11

how to exploit it is no matter how had

40:13

he was he will have relied

40:16

on these since the films but what has happened

40:18

is that now a lot of young people

40:20

who go to schools and colleges or

40:22

another thing like you know what we don't want to be doing

40:24

that

40:25

you know me one the ,

40:28

jones we want to move that there are no

40:32

problem

40:37

the republican english

40:40

it

40:41

when were included a day

40:44

to for instance we have to positive

40:46

for centuries in fucking

40:47

and to the bottom a research

40:49

the lot of when when he thinks he thinks

40:51

the kind of jobs and became available

40:54

who

40:54

any personally when and there's just

40:57

too much on the assembly line with is this manual

40:59

labor when you're just become like the

41:01

thought of a machine com bust

41:04

does not actually

41:04

in any opportunity saw mobility

41:07

the upward mobility so the kinds

41:09

of jobs that have also been created or not

41:12

the great for people

41:14

that had so it's not like information

41:16

but he thought was kind of jobs that are available

41:19

i'm i'm just saying

41:21

there

41:22

education and the quality of education

41:24

is also very important

41:28

completed but if not feeling

41:30

very thankful

41:31

what would it cool

41:32

they become even to get lit fit

41:34

both

41:35

the athletic eight it or not

41:37

meaning

41:38

i really can

41:40

you speak fluent english or know

41:43

be quite a bit citing factor in what do the job

41:45

so many many be tested at for

41:47

a job or not to not so

41:50

the lot of people that i know and people

41:52

that we're will my friends

41:54

from school when he finished

41:56

high school new wins and work in his both answers

41:59

the

41:59

oh because they could spin

42:02

feelings

42:03

in today's to the kind of job and things become

42:06

available that's awesome to

42:08

the skills that you acquire and right

42:11

to that say say say that like and

42:13

we're all parts of the

42:15

season himalaya a flat more agriculture

42:18

based work and then an urban

42:20

areas are like more urban centers it's

42:22

like they're like star my

42:25

factories call centers

42:28

would also yeah none other than types of jobs

42:31

are happening in urban spaces

42:32

the pharmaceutical don't like him more like outside

42:35

the needed to you and have factories within

42:37

open but that i've been very up in here is

42:39

what it on as a barrier been ages

42:41

the in the even mls ah he

42:43

added

42:44

it really really important that

42:47

really driving chains

42:49

and i know blazers

42:50

the tourism

42:53

though everybody wants to go to exotic

42:56

newman a his face of the in the

42:58

image is of the some good enough the

43:00

image is all exhausted

43:02

citizens wonderful you

43:04

know blah blah blah and sort of space

43:06

tourism is really really important added employees

43:09

you know

43:11

people

43:11

no good as he had those

43:14

in the schools have

43:16

and

43:17

taxi driver is having

43:19

some places and duel guys and things like that

43:22

on old another those either

43:25

that's really important to that of the leading

43:27

to have no this ended up and is consumption

43:30

you know is retail and themselves and family

43:32

that see saw shops that have opened

43:34

up

43:35

there's so many salt

43:38

as have opened up and that employ

43:40

especially young women

43:43

in the do that again

43:44

that america is that i did own

43:46

young women waiting these

43:48

despite where we have

43:50

you know everybody he's extremely friendly

43:53

i've ever been on point us

43:55

so what is fueling undies

43:58

is actually cheaper

43:59

ah

44:01

man that i felt coming through

44:03

the different borders and so one is case either

44:06

coming to china of a see that coming to

44:08

bangkok's for

44:12

humor it will be also

44:14

driving

44:14

neighbors indicates that lot

44:17

of shops opening

44:18

i'm in the shops and they really young

44:20

girls

44:21

they can help about moving out

44:23

of villages the come and work

44:25

the and then local

44:27

deliver bill

44:28

like can be shop the need a place to live

44:31

for that

44:31

the driving urbanization what

44:34

is someone goes to school and like

44:36

a rural or urban place and

44:39

they're like oh my god i'm obsessive school like

44:41

is there a college only community college and

44:43

stuff

44:44

where we do have education is the

44:47

sesame government subsidizes case of his

44:49

own for the symbol for you

44:51

could go to

44:52

an an hour and a new people and it is

44:54

possible to acid go to government schools

44:57

and colleges

44:58

to also do really well

45:01

he didn't so that is possible also but

45:03

if i can you afford to even like

45:05

can you afford to not make money for yourself

45:08

or your family to do that for three squares

45:10

food here and then of course

45:13

is you know if you go to another city

45:15

another bigger indian city and all it

45:17

used to study of course either you know

45:19

you've got you've got better networks you learn

45:22

that of things in us all

45:23

the other thing but having said that

45:25

you could still be

45:26

in the you know you can still go

45:29

to a local college or you can go to the local

45:31

school and union whatever and you can

45:33

the all right but i think it's

45:35

is that it's a it's a decision that the

45:37

the mean do i study advisor so

45:42

so i'm like i was reading about would be

45:44

like religious been park said are

45:46

there to and night

45:48

the was between like the pharmaceutical

45:50

factory the religious theme parks the height of our

45:52

projects the retail service industry like who

45:55

is leading the turns on all these

45:57

development projects and i'm assuming

45:59

whoever leading the charge on those are the ones it's

46:02

walking away with think the biggest problem

46:08

yeah i could get into total

46:11

professor of the

46:14

who's eating some of the

46:17

the runway

46:18

the stand that even

46:20

that in in south asia in general

46:23

or the state is a very very important

46:25

from a very intelligent

46:26

and from everything is sort

46:28

of don't know

46:30

so

46:31

in nepal where they in seeking

46:33

where this in bhutan everything

46:37

is controlled

46:39

having said that what

46:42

we're seeing

46:42

a lot of private companies

46:45

are also investing

46:47

in distance

46:48

you know the due to act as

46:50

a mediator a set of got

46:53

everything has to be approved by the states if

46:55

you want his business a major religious

46:57

embark on what i call

46:58

the religious lego land and

47:00

i'm going to go to hell for that bad

47:03

that have to be roof and the state this of the

47:05

see it isn't easy to read

47:06

if you want to buy land to build these gonna

47:09

buy land to build from i do on a

47:11

been man for sides of the state's sense

47:13

to me did an end and

47:15

around

47:16

if you don't have a talk to the land

47:18

owners and it's also easy representing

47:20

the interests of painted np

47:22

so even if they have a hybrid

47:25

that sort of a relationship

47:27

this is the stated which is you're

47:30

doing all of this is supposedly for the benefit

47:32

of the people we

47:35

were no in an episode of getting serious about

47:37

i'm damn displacement and

47:39

about like the acts that like hydro power

47:42

at ten have online different

47:44

area so the hydropower

47:46

projects that we mentioned in an awfully pharmaceuticals

47:49

i would imagine you could have imagine lot of like waste

47:51

or waste run on is like a result of those

47:54

like are there a link negative impact of these

47:56

developments are having on these environment it's

47:58

not good in school the personal

48:00

opinion is that he says it's it

48:02

can be didn't he thought of developments can

48:04

the be done in a way that doesn't harm

48:08

the environment because at the end of the day with badass

48:10

like who is it benefiting face as

48:13

the and

48:13

they are you is it neatly these

48:15

companies that are just extracting same

48:18

where are these private companies from are they from

48:20

india are they from the athletes

48:23

in targeting embedded companies and

48:25

and the not sledgehammer the

48:27

same either whatever it's not allowed on

48:30

in this as an investment another lots of most of his

48:32

birth records and companies even

48:34

indian could those private companies have investors

48:37

and them that are like american russian

48:39

like or whoever the think as if it's as private company

48:42

like is there any way to even know like exactly

48:44

who is with an ass

48:46

i think that can be quite understandable

48:48

that in it as a perfect strict laws about

48:50

and what's the centers of which company

48:52

can have

48:53

the morning investment mean

48:55

the difference so at that point six

48:57

about it and what's the same decidedly finity

48:59

few fifty one percent than be three investment

49:02

or not that so emphasis

49:04

you know it's know it's indian companies that

49:07

i have a booming boots and

49:09

a quarter been a lot of negative impacts

49:11

of trying to power and ah

49:13

pharmaceutical and hydroponic the more

49:16

sort of visible rated c

49:18

since the mascot slip going to do that for

49:20

little bit since the a which contains the diocese

49:24

if you know like

49:25

it it becomes a sluggish lick

49:28

it , is a d

49:30

they realize the village

49:33

a hundred times of the reasons

49:36

but also because of the tunnel from have

49:38

been viewed what had happened is that

49:40

it's really because of dollars have been this

49:42

is changed the and the

49:44

ground water level not so now

49:46

springs hobbes i love bad

49:49

because the water basically the water

49:51

table has shifted theodore not

49:53

julie

49:54

ship the what to do both know what that was the

49:56

was a flaw in a sudden me

49:58

right to as

49:59

the move were basically just

50:02

when the water is seeping some

50:04

the rules some the fellow

50:05

because it is water that it's supposed on

50:08

planning to school somewhere

50:11

been diverted fare so well

50:13

he said done if is created

50:15

what about you than what a problem some villages

50:17

so what they , is

50:19

that people on what are the crux of the

50:21

war

50:22

maybe blood loss

50:24

for below

50:26

longer distances the water that

50:28

only was a certain other things that i like

50:30

really just minimal right now

50:38

due

50:41

to the read

50:42

so where

50:44

are the earthquake prone move on

50:46

month

50:52

when you meet

50:54

in person because you just don't know

50:56

what will happen and and pharmaceutical

50:59

every incidence because you can see

51:02

the the what they do a lot

51:05

of doc the breeze

51:07

you know who is toxins

51:09

in the in the rivers and streams

51:12

and a lot of women that i

51:14

spoke to during my a similar

51:16

com the know the talked about

51:18

health issues

51:20

the and experiencing after

51:22

working but of course you know it's it's own and

51:24

to do and no one's as he doesn't like

51:27

be happy to see they've been

51:29

any

51:29

yeah foods

51:31

as the so many things that are going

51:34

on

51:34

it's really begs the question is is sites

51:37

it's development the development for whom

51:39

and what is this development bank because

51:41

cause benefiting from this because all they have seen

51:44

his just the destruction of

51:45

our environment and are

51:48

we are blaze

51:49

how's that affecting the political

51:51

and cultural formation of the east

51:53

himalaya this dichotomy of this

51:56

development and what it's doing to the people

51:59

well

51:59

yeah it's own you

52:02

know a place which he added

52:05

during a lot of poverty and there's a lot

52:07

of such as and struggled suffered a lot of people

52:10

and lot of the times the question is

52:12

do i

52:14

grab a luxury

52:16

though

52:17

think about environmental and

52:20

that i do i think about

52:23

earning money from

52:25

for the choice is a little do i go

52:28

and work in the pharmaceutical factory

52:30

you know i have this money so

52:32

how can feed my keys and send them to school

52:35

or do

52:36

felix is a bad

52:37

so here on the one in

52:40

i can i do you think that they should be more

52:42

in a pretty be more conversations and

52:45

these and more political activists

52:47

putin you know i'm speaking

52:49

from the position of privilege to see that we

52:51

could be doing more things because if someone

52:54

is earning a livelihood from doing

52:56

the things were like to say that this

52:59

is a bad thing has so if this is

53:01

a difficult thing because on the

53:03

one hundred everybody

53:04

that we should not be happening

53:06

the know

53:08

there are no dead people's livelihoods and

53:10

lives are attached

53:12

to this and again disclose again

53:15

goes back to the power of the state because

53:17

is the state approved and sentencing thing

53:20

they'd difficult

53:22

gotta do it

53:24

so it's a yes

53:26

of course an ideal world

53:28

you know we shouldn't be

53:30

protecting against all of these things that i

53:32

have

53:32

that

53:33

maki any very difficult

53:35

to actually achieve these things

53:39

so what do you see on the horizon

53:41

for the eastern himalaya ends

53:44

and what's her hope for it what

53:46

am i see on the horizon

53:50

i'm actually quite concerned and

53:53

to be on it's because i entered the was like him as this

53:55

is probably because of my own bias because

53:57

our

53:58

there and i see

53:59

peter consummation

54:02

of the region i am concerned

54:05

about it on an environmental

54:07

or level what is going to happen because

54:09

whew

54:11

urban i've been so rapidly

54:13

pain and is so much pressure on

54:15

the natural environment so i am concerned

54:18

about how far can be pushed

54:21

how can we push our shields are

54:23

mother

54:23

right how much can we extract

54:26

before

54:27

something happened building really disastrous

54:30

to them and then fun on that level

54:37

for people who are

54:39

young people think what will they be

54:41

doing

54:42

on one

54:45

what kinda work will be doing what book

54:47

how will it be making a legit

54:49

i'm concerned about that but then again i mean

54:52

young people in that i interact with young people

54:54

and that it gives me a beautiful

54:57

so resilient and the sooo

55:00

agree to that they're finding new ways

55:02

of doing things of expressing things

55:04

and attaining things our

55:06

things is thing suppose that night and resorting to

55:08

help england

55:11

in a dark side like you gotta do this is

55:13

abby you gotta go to school we to get a job

55:16

she's an i dislike

55:19

thinking or very or very ways in

55:21

which they can need

55:25

the life and they want doing and i am the

55:27

i'm not just be bogged down by

55:29

the faded linear me

55:30

anything that would

55:32

rival say i mean i

55:34

think it's a mixed emotion i think

55:36

for me

55:37

wonder woman i am worried about what has

55:39

happened but i think there's a bit of

55:43

looking at me young people from the

55:45

reason i think we'd be on and so

55:48

love that so you

55:51

are like minding your own business

55:53

made in college spinola

55:56

learning about things and then what initially

55:58

drew you to the table

55:59

the research that you have found yourself doing

56:03

your have anybody

56:05

the going this and such

56:07

a good cause research is so

56:09

many different kinds of things because thought

56:11

i did he says in nice thursday

56:14

is very different to what i agree says that

56:15

and everything a d doing can

56:18

i see it it'd be a different life

56:20

a nice but it was it

56:22

was experiences are as

56:24

an indian abandon

56:26

be

56:27

the sort of questions that people

56:29

had around my own identity as citizens

56:32

should because they would constantly said to me like

56:34

some the felony from their favourite and

56:37

i would be like life i'm sick him and

56:39

no one

56:40

no linguistic amazing

56:41

yeah whatever

56:44

we believe but of experiences

56:46

own and then you know that that

56:48

led me to really interrogating

56:52

the trouble with who i am

56:55

hundred become more about the face

56:58

where i'm from

56:59

then

57:01

i'm sure you cancer the question better after

57:03

the last hour that we spend together let

57:05

me since i've since you think people have

57:07

about the borderlands and about

57:09

the eastern himalaya and globally

57:13

that's him the cup

57:15

with sand on misconceptions

57:18

around borderlands i think

57:20

one of the biggest misconception around

57:22

borderlands alex's not

57:24

about became a little borderlands in general

57:26

is super different

57:29

of a moment if it didn't even consider

57:32

getting to the political two hundred and and

57:34

up by it's it's

57:36

and as the periphery

57:38

the nice and fifteen you think about everything

57:41

in terms of countries didn't it's been

57:43

a i think we what if i do is gonna

57:46

like sign agree elaine how

57:48

the meeting and and not

57:50

to think of border is as peripheries

57:53

or the end of the nation state or

57:55

but rather as is really

57:58

interesting the

58:01

election , do you feel like assessing

58:03

for the people who live along the

58:05

border is t v like they're

58:08

more tolerant of the like like

58:10

if there's ever a fight but they're like i'm political

58:13

sega generally and a between

58:15

any of like the political differences you ever the

58:17

that the people living on the border like any

58:20

that's like my cousin across the way they're not last

58:22

not

58:28

no i think it depends

58:30

during the my waist and all he

58:33

i defendants vickers is the

58:35

us in this again was that what

58:37

we talked about what an hour ago i

58:39

speak about

58:41

the

58:42

no would see you know which included

58:45

belonged to that really isn't does

58:47

have an impact on how we identify

58:49

so where does my loyalty

58:51

my belongings

58:53

the be know where did it like

58:55

they saw years or so

58:56

one a family and eleven across the border

58:58

with a

58:59

the wanted funding vote for him either

59:01

the be like for you know husband to be like oh we'll

59:03

weed cooler than you people in does he mean

59:05

or whatever you know it hurts it is

59:08

some

59:09

maybe that exists credit

59:12

yeah bad thing

59:15

which player can belong to have really big

59:17

impact on how the and

59:20

for her response

59:22

to problems so

59:24

determine ancestry what is next for you

59:26

and for your research

59:28

been two years since i've been able to pull back

59:30

home

59:30

because of go vid so

59:33

i have embarked on

59:35

a new research projects here in

59:37

australia because i was out

59:39

i hope i don't go home

59:40

okay to update my people

59:43

like us looking at him alone migrants

59:45

and working in reasonable a skater

59:48

so these are my wins from

59:50

the baths and other refugees

59:53

from the

59:53

then who are working today

59:56

our were living and working in regional

59:58

afraid

59:58

the new me in

59:59

the healthcare sector you mean kenyan

1:00:02

things like that

1:00:03

my new further out wanted

1:00:05

to consider my feelings and

1:00:08

a new labour in

1:00:10

a similar for the letting that's really interesting

1:00:12

because what a young women doing

1:00:15

and alive very serious about that

1:00:18

you already know whatever

1:00:21

happened enough food from

1:00:23

the plan beyond that the

1:00:26

any idea when you'll be able to get to go home

1:00:28

and visit

1:00:29

then be able to come back he

1:00:31

said anything about think they heard the like western australia

1:00:34

would like the most lock down under

1:00:36

lockdown

1:00:36

and we we opened

1:00:38

our last week

1:00:40

so i could be

1:00:42

able to hold settled into the go

1:00:44

back next year in june or july

1:00:47

as illinois really scary with australia

1:00:49

because you just don't a windy my son down

1:00:51

and

1:00:52

the young come back for a photo exhibit

1:00:54

it it's been too long it's been more than two years

1:00:56

since i've gone back home and them only

1:00:58

to go and care of this

1:01:01

the at woman

1:01:03

eads yeah i was going to be

1:01:05

what's your favorite food or whatever

1:01:09

dumplings ah no i

1:01:11

love oh my god i love it

1:01:15

down to lebanon a when i go back

1:01:17

to india when i go back home i'm only

1:01:19

eating around the homages like

1:01:21

uncontrollable out a little i

1:01:24

might tell you when i got home i bet

1:01:26

the foods that is years is

1:01:28

bet it's

1:01:32

more my are really good to weaken it we can have a piece

1:01:34

of a midwestern bear and then some gorgeous

1:01:36

and the same felix isn't

1:01:38

himalaya bird together yeah

1:01:42

absolutely would love to

1:01:43

don't know the birth and when you come down

1:01:45

that you should the with mrs now

1:01:48

i'm here i'm in a new

1:01:51

absolutely new absolutely

1:01:53

or something on getting curious determine we receive

1:01:55

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1:01:57

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