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Hey curious people. Welcome to Pretty Curious,

2:35

our podcast on all things beauty. I'm

2:37

Jonathan Van Ness. This week we're talking

2:39

to a beauty icon. I think I

2:42

know that we say that a lot,

2:44

but it's not my fault that we

2:46

get consistently iconic guests. Sorry, not sorry.

2:48

But first it's time to get ready

2:50

with me. You

2:53

guys, I literally bamboozled

2:56

the Sephora sellout. I

2:58

actually pulled like every string I know couldn't

3:00

do it. We literally just had to

3:02

like go to all the Sephora's

3:04

to find the Charlotte Tilbury

3:07

Beautyverse palette. If you look

3:09

on my Instagram from

3:12

like last week, I posted

3:14

it. It's really pretty. That was one

3:16

look that I did with it. I

3:18

mixed it with Danessa Myricks Groundworks for

3:20

my eyeliner. I did like the

3:22

like the black like pomade eyeliner

3:25

and then I did the Charlotte Beautyverse

3:27

palette on my eyes. Really pretty.

3:29

Loved it. Then I did

3:31

another color combo of it that I didn't

3:34

post because I was just like running out

3:36

to get brunch. I just did like the

3:38

other two colors that I hadn't used. Also

3:40

really pretty. Loving the texture and

3:42

I also feel like there are

3:45

probably other palettes that are equally as gorgeous.

3:47

So if you can't find it, it's like

3:50

not the end of the world but it

3:52

is really beautiful and I'm happy I got

3:54

it. So yes. We

3:57

also have some listener questions. By being these

3:59

listener questions, Let me get some water. Our

4:04

first listener question is, what product can

4:06

I use for thinning and regrowth of

4:08

hair? Okay, so that's a great question.

4:12

One thing would be JVN hair pre-wash

4:14

gop oil. It's going to

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help to promote hair growth. The rosemary

4:18

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4:20

make sure that your hair follicles are

4:22

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4:25

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4:27

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4:29

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4:31

really good for the hair that you do have.

4:33

It's going to give it strength and it's going

4:35

to prevent it from breaking because if you have

4:37

thinning hair, it's going to be a little more

4:39

fragile and you want to make sure that the

4:41

hair that you do have doesn't break.

4:43

So something like a pre-wash gop oil or

4:45

a pre-poo treatment is going

4:47

to be really good, like a scalp oiling

4:49

treatment. It's going to be really good. But

4:51

then there is like your topicals that are

4:53

not pills. That's like your Rogaine's or like,

4:55

you know, liquids that you would put on

4:57

your scalp that are like stronger than a

4:59

JVN hair pre-wash scalp oil, but

5:01

you have to stay using them. And then when you

5:04

stop using them, you're going to stop seeing the results.

5:07

Then there's like pills like Propecia, which I've been on

5:09

since I was like 19. It's

5:11

been really effective in helping me to not lose

5:13

hair. Then there's also like the red light,

5:15

like helmet things that are supposed to stimulate

5:17

hair growth. But again, those are the type of

5:19

things that you have to stay on it and keep on it. So

5:22

thank you for that question. And

5:24

yes. Our

5:28

next question is, how can I apply foundation

5:30

that doesn't look patchy or cracked over peach

5:32

fuzz? Most commonly,

5:34

the makeup mistake is when the makeup

5:36

isn't blending is that there's not enough

5:38

skincare on or like moisturizer on before

5:40

your makeup application. And that's why the

5:43

application isn't seamless. So to

5:45

me, it sounds like you might need to actually

5:48

remove, like shave your face so

5:51

that it goes even. So

5:54

that's what I think. I hope that answered your question. Dr.

5:58

Pemple Popper, Sandra Lee. Many

6:00

doctors generally if you will actually be

6:02

will because I've thrown in more talking

6:04

with her about her practice, skyn haired

6:07

dermatology the whole and how we can

6:09

approach or skyn at a more safely

6:11

and more effectively. Better

6:13

theater How are you are? I'm very well.

6:15

Thank you thank you for inviting me! I'm

6:18

so excited to meet you myself! This is

6:20

amazing! Have not met before. I can't believe

6:22

that. The world is full of injustices and

6:24

why would it stop when it comes to

6:26

as not having that? yeah you don't I

6:29

mean yeah so it was. So I'm thoroughly

6:31

as what are you into dermatology? Are you

6:33

pretty and focus on like removing ship or

6:35

people? Skyn? Are you like I do some

6:37

below that do other stuff. I'm

6:39

amy a surgical dermatologists oh yeah that is

6:42

probably why I can the I'm able to

6:44

do a lot of these simple topic any

6:46

surgery but I'm also cause metics dermatologist and

6:48

I do cosmetic surgery to like I do

6:50

liposuction I said to do hex and plans

6:53

and lower face ceaseless and I listened to

6:55

her son and a lot of lasers and

6:57

I do skin cancer surgery but I do

6:59

a lotta like that we com south cause

7:02

metics like the seller Botox the ducks I

7:04

guess that this is really taken over so

7:06

I think the direction nastily that my my

7:08

specialty of. Me with my facility was gonna

7:10

go into sort of cut out west a

7:13

little this way you know it didn't go

7:15

in that straight line that I thought it

7:17

was going to go in and be something

7:19

else. You know I'm just because I have

7:21

my of the all these like big sister

7:23

my palm a surgery but it's a great

7:25

I mean it's all part of the training

7:27

with the things that I like to do

7:29

because essentially I would be like surgery sell

7:31

you know yeah yeah sell. You can see

7:33

what's really cool about the mythology and I'll

7:35

think people realize this is the just think

7:37

that we're all about acne and wards and.

7:39

Like Botox and Solar think the

7:41

in this so much to it.

7:43

there's so many still do. Some

7:45

people that just do pediatric cases

7:47

of people that just do geriatric

7:49

cases, the people that just do

7:51

like auto immune to this and

7:53

like looper since you know and

7:55

there's people that just inflammatory conditions

7:57

like psoriasis since eczema right? So

7:59

basically. went to school, so you

8:01

went to med school, then you then

8:03

you after med school, you did a

8:06

dermatology residency. Right, right.

8:08

So you go to medical school and then you

8:10

yeah, you decide what you want to do and you hopefully

8:12

get a dermatology spot. But then you were like,

8:14

I want to do even another one and you're like,

8:17

I want to do like, I want to do a

8:19

dermatological like surgery, like plastics and facelift. So is that

8:21

like a whole separate and like is that in addition?

8:23

It's like a fellowship. You do another you do

8:25

another year of training and you you learn from

8:27

you know, you already have the basics, you already

8:30

understand or it also depends on your

8:32

residency and like the kind of training that you get. And I

8:34

just think I was, I had really

8:36

good surgery training in my residency, but I

8:38

also really loved it. And so I think

8:40

that was where I really absorbed everything. And

8:42

then when I went, I did a I

8:44

did a fellowship in San Diego with a

8:46

very famous laser surgeon. And he

8:49

and so we also did

8:51

that's where I learned how to do

8:53

lipo and all

8:55

those other things there really. So so

8:58

it was it was pretty cool. So that that was

9:00

really the experience that you get and you get to you

9:02

know, actually do this on patients yourself, you know, so

9:04

that's where you get the hands on training. Now

9:06

let's go. Let's go

9:08

home. Let's go to the what you like what

9:10

you know, and then like our listeners. So okay,

9:13

if you're very satisfied by popping

9:16

your own pimples, like how do you do it

9:18

without making it worse? Like how do you know

9:20

when it's ready? Should we never do it at

9:22

home? But what if we really wash our

9:24

hands really good and we've watched so many videos and we

9:27

feel like we feel like we know, you know,

9:29

I think that is the that is

9:31

like the tough thing about what I

9:33

do. I mean, you

9:36

know, I'm gonna follow the rules all these

9:38

other dermatologists are gonna say and say like

9:40

you shouldn't pop your own pimples because I

9:42

do think they're, they're people who

9:44

are going to do it, who

9:46

are going to do it and they're going

9:48

to take it too far, you know, and

9:50

that's going to have cause problems with bleeding,

9:52

infection, scarring, things like that. Terrible things can

9:54

happen just like anything, you got to do

9:56

things in moderation, you know, and I

9:59

Feel like. Ah, I'm concerned about that.

10:01

they just built one. I don't want to

10:03

advise people to have free reign over there

10:05

pimples. What? If. You have a simple pimple

10:07

like I have a great now am I know that

10:09

I can't wait for the come the head so I

10:12

can get at it because I can't stand it right

10:14

now. You know, like I get. It like use

10:16

a be able. To do those things that hobbies

10:18

you should be able to do them responsibly and

10:20

know sort of when to when is the right

10:22

moment. It's not like if you just have a

10:25

tip least as try to squeeze away. Could love

10:27

him. That can make a works right. Yeah

10:29

Ugly Duckling never break at a scalpel are

10:31

like start like cutting your own stay at

10:33

home while ago will only while had only

10:36

married clean as he items. So.

10:38

Young actually be any. Steps people we

10:40

have to realize like the pimples is like

10:42

a life cycle of a pimple. you know

10:44

the best time to get at it and

10:46

extracted and get all that hot south is

10:48

really what has come to a head. You

10:50

know it's on the surface of this gets

10:52

to you know when people for such you

10:54

feel it more than you see it you

10:56

know it's coming and then it gets read

10:58

and against painful. It hurts much more at

11:00

that point because as a lot of pressure

11:02

the the lot of swelling in it so

11:04

that pressure causes that pain and discomfort. But

11:06

when it starts to become a. Pasteur.

11:09

Or what people call whitehead but it's a puzzle

11:11

cause it's the it's like your body is is

11:13

actually going to get rid of this. This

11:16

ducks it's I try to push it out

11:18

so pushes out close to the surface askance.

11:20

and at that point. It's almost like

11:22

it's not even that painful to like. Nick

11:24

it really delicately and cleanly and then squeeze

11:26

out that puts his help it out and

11:28

that's like the best. That's the best time

11:30

to do and the reason is is because

11:32

it's really superficial and it's gonna come on

11:34

any weights if you kind of push at

11:36

it when it's still read you, just gonna

11:38

make it bigger and more inflamed and also.

11:41

You. Eat. You're not going to get all that us out

11:43

and that's what you're you're trying to do with the by an. Exam?

11:46

Yeah, What? I mean. What? uphold? I'm.

11:49

What? About like those like your A strips are

11:51

just like when people like extract like the Little

11:53

League sneaks out of the know like what are

11:55

what are those little face. weather's to while

11:57

seeking a like had them i had to the northeast

11:59

and also the those sebaceous filaments that kind

12:01

of look like little fibers or hairs.

12:04

And that's really part of our, it's

12:07

like a part of our pore cause our pores have

12:09

hair follicles in them. And it's kind

12:11

of like the hair follicle helps the oil to

12:13

kind of come to the surface of the skin.

12:15

It's a very fine hair follicle. It's like a

12:17

vellus hair. And so what you'll

12:19

see are these little kind of like these little,

12:22

almost like shoots of grass, right? And they pull

12:24

off those beaure strips. And a lot of that,

12:26

some of them are blackheads and some of them

12:28

are those sebaceous filaments. It just depends on what

12:30

you have there. But these are all natural. I

12:32

mean, pores are normal. We can't get rid of

12:34

pores. And it's really a, it's

12:37

like a bold face lie that people

12:39

will say, Oh, this laser or

12:41

this procedure is going to shrink your pores.

12:44

Nothing can really shrink your

12:46

pores permanently. It can maybe make

12:48

them look less apparent, but your pores are your

12:50

pores. You're going to have them. So you

12:53

got your pimples, you got your whiteheads, your

12:55

blackheads, your sebaceous filaments. What other like, what

12:57

are the other like, if it were an

12:59

Olympic podium, actually, no, let's say top five

13:01

because you know, fourth and fifth place where

13:03

it's really hard to make the Olympics too.

13:05

So like what are like the top five

13:08

most like, like they're

13:10

not, like what are like the top five like

13:12

things that you see that are like, we, like,

13:15

like I had my little ball in my back,

13:17

like that little white nasty thing that they cut

13:19

out weird things. Yeah. Like the top five most

13:21

like common things that you see that are like,

13:24

kind of like, that the person's probably

13:26

like, I'm really scared. But then you're like, Oh,

13:28

I see this like kind of commonly. Yes.

13:30

Yes. I see them ton now because, because

13:33

of me being Dr. Pimple Popper. I mean,

13:35

in the past, did I see a lot of them? Not

13:37

so much. Seattle

13:39

cystomas are really cool. They're, we

13:42

call them Seattle to comas just

13:44

for sure. But they're like, they're

13:46

actually oil in your, they're the

13:48

true oil sits or sebaceous sits

13:51

what people call. And

13:53

it's like butter under your skin when

13:55

it comes out, it's like beautiful, like, like,

13:58

It's like just, uh, It should

14:00

be melted butter. Seattle Tacoma as or

14:02

a Seattle guy. Soma is. Yeah, so

14:04

that's a browser. What is really cool or

14:07

these villains are she said you video them

14:09

speed Dallas Texas where you actually take up

14:11

he says that look like little baby bird

14:13

seed are on a person's back or the

14:15

tests and if you look at them under

14:17

the microscope still like little pieces of bird

14:19

seats that have all these hairs wrapped in

14:21

them like the Bellas tears which are like

14:23

the find her that you might dermot them

14:25

a plane up your faith in our you

14:27

know what we would the yes. Ultimately I

14:29

say the ah yes. And then I'm

14:31

a It's like they were all wound in

14:33

that. That is also really cool. Ah of

14:35

course a dilated pour wine or which is

14:38

like a giant black head. you know that

14:40

ones that look like that? Yeah, those. Are

14:42

Amazing Lurgan A blur was

14:45

there was another word up.

14:48

On the while the pilot says that you

14:50

see on the head it's that grow out

14:52

like that. Those are fun to pop out

14:54

because they are like the consistency of all

14:56

this to. They have like a thick walls

14:58

so he just kind of make an opening

15:00

just right. You squeeze it it'll usually like

15:02

kind of. Blue. Pow like whole

15:04

like I like it, almost like a

15:07

all of our garbanzo beans than stuck

15:09

under the skin so those are particularly

15:11

satisfying. Ah, and I mean the number

15:13

one thing are like blockheads, Really? Because.

15:16

Like. Black had to like. snowflakes is

15:18

never won. The saying you don't really

15:21

know what to expect. sometimes they can

15:23

come up really law that that that

15:25

they can come out like I'm like

15:27

ballet eyes. I want to say like

15:29

like different colors other things like that

15:31

so they're They're pretty cool. So black

15:33

had I known sec know. You're.

15:41

Going to keep home is added to

15:43

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15:45

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15:52

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15:55

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15:57

rights. And same issue, the Jd

15:59

and. The relationship doctor Drew still

16:01

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16:03

music that. Shapes as would mean girls are

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16:08

and and is. No seasons just

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16:12

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16:15

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16:18

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Skincare. Preservationists? What's

17:51

like some the what's one thing that

17:54

people could add or change in their

17:56

routine to make a bit like to

17:58

make the biggest difference. The you Be or. I

18:00

will tell you for me, Ah is I'm

18:03

I. You know. Obviously, I know. I know

18:05

a lot about. Skincare I I def this

18:07

is my world. Dermatology were like know

18:09

about Skyn we we love. We know

18:11

a thing. We learn everything about the

18:13

skin, a hair, and the nails. but

18:15

I'm not super into trying new products

18:17

and things like that. I do pretty

18:19

minimal on my face, you know, mainly

18:21

sunscreen and things like that. but what?

18:23

I actually, I kind of made a

18:25

commitment I would go to sleep all

18:27

the time with my my with my

18:29

make upon and stuff like that and

18:31

not fully wash my face. And it's

18:33

really only in the last few years

18:35

that I've really been good about washing

18:37

my face at night. And. Making

18:39

sure my faith is clean and it's made a

18:42

huge. Difference in my life I feel like

18:44

I just feel like my skin has looked

18:46

so much better. I think that make up

18:48

kind of scratches your face or really makes

18:50

you look a lot tired, more tired and

18:52

just a just a dirty your and things

18:54

like that and I know that sounds like

18:56

a lame thing the here from a dermatologist

18:58

actually but I didn't I wouldn't that committed

19:01

to doing that. I i I think I

19:03

was like always like you know I'm asian

19:05

animal cam gonna be okay for wealth and

19:07

then I some fifty not like oh shit

19:09

you know like I I gotta start really

19:11

taking. Doing something to take care of

19:13

my skin and I think I'm just things

19:16

like that. It's true. like. Be.

19:18

Nice your skin don't be so refer to it

19:20

as we get older. Like don't rub your faith.

19:22

I really am conscious about rubbing my skin or

19:25

rubbing my eyes because I know that that kind

19:27

of things causes trauma your skin and actually makes

19:29

you look older. You have increased skyn lines from

19:31

that you know the of like a little rascal

19:34

especially when your eyes of the rubberize he looks

19:36

so tired and older than access So there's a

19:38

lot a little things that I try to do

19:40

now. just keep my hands off my face of

19:43

things like that has the i realized it's it's

19:45

time now I gotta I gotta take better care

19:47

of myself. Hands off face with such a

19:49

fucking big one. Yeah, so what about like

19:52

makeup brushes? Dude, You make sure that our

19:54

makeup brushes are super fucking clean. Like, what

19:56

about like disinfecting are said that we put

19:58

on her face. i think we We definitely need

20:00

to disinfect and we need to clean these things just

20:02

like you would your pillowcase really right or your skin

20:04

Cuz these are the things that are touching your face.

20:07

How often do you do your pillowcase? How often do

20:09

I do my pillowcase? Yeah, I switch it out like

20:11

every few days, but and I really like a silk

20:13

pillowcase We do too. We do too. We do too in our

20:15

house. That's what we do, too It's like better for our hair. It's

20:17

not a burst skin. I think it wrinkles me less Yeah,

20:19

and it's so cool to tell helps you it just

20:21

feels really nice. So it does feel nice

20:23

It was like an adjustment and also like I

20:26

slobber sometimes and so that's weird But um, but

20:28

it's still fine, but I do

20:30

prefer it. Um, what about

20:32

uh Acne

20:35

wounds Scars,

20:38

how do we address? I mean, obviously those are two

20:40

very different things But I

20:42

think specifically with acne scarring like

20:44

if you have like just long-term

20:48

Like scars to your face. The

20:50

point I want to make here is to

20:52

really if you have acne And

20:55

your acne is moderate to severe

20:57

really look into getting that treated

21:00

because you don't want to have

21:02

acne scars I see people every

21:04

day that come in And

21:07

they bring their kids in because their kid has

21:09

maybe a couple pimples and it's not even a

21:11

big deal but you see the reason that they

21:13

brought them in is because they have acne scars

21:15

because you know, like you can see that They

21:19

that it is affected them so greatly in their

21:21

life that like, you know it's

21:23

sort of like when somebody loses a lot of weight and they

21:25

say like I look in the mirror sometimes and I Can't

21:28

stop seeing that person that I was like they

21:30

still see themselves as as overweight

21:32

It's like that with acne acne scars people

21:35

look in the mirror and they it

21:37

just reminds them of their acne in the

21:39

way They felt during that time and it's

21:42

like you can't get away from that image

21:44

It's reminds you that all the time and

21:46

it could be really devastating for people to

21:48

have acne scars and it's very it's just

21:50

very Frustrating and it's a very expensive and

21:52

can take a long process to really improve

21:55

your skin Have You seen

21:57

like what do you think is the most successful?

22:01

Or it like where have you seen anything that you think

22:03

works better than other things. The I

22:05

think later a lot of for like what

22:07

certain has this cause I think laser resurfacing

22:10

works well. Like C O Two laser I

22:12

think there is a scene appeal which is

22:14

like a really deep peel that can work

22:16

well but a lot of things that you're

22:18

seeing to and they look great after you'll

22:20

see somebody that had some really aggressive treatment

22:23

and it looks so great after it's been

22:25

a lot of that. Is.

22:27

Going to add some of the a least some

22:29

of it is gonna go way over time because

22:31

a lot of that has to the swelling right

22:33

afterwards took a zero swollen so he thing look

22:35

better you know i think kind of little bit

22:37

more plump like you like you have an allergic

22:40

reaction or something and all the said and your

22:42

lips the greater your cheeks the great to give

22:44

no wrinkles but a lot of that is going

22:46

to subside over time so you know it's. It's.

22:49

It's a more than just a single passes

22:51

for a lot of things as filler that

22:53

to work you know, so you know there's

22:56

chemical peel? There's there's lasers that freedom bit.

22:58

Like I said, I think the C O

23:00

two lasers the best one for that sort

23:02

of thing. Tattoo. Removal Death

23:04

Like is there any like good leaders for

23:06

like really good tattoo? Removal of it only

23:09

takes one now. Sniff. Now

23:12

allow. It. Depends on the

23:14

patio that you have. Really like Ivy we've

23:16

done like people who have like will because

23:18

from addict tattoos where they fall on asphalt

23:20

may get like tattoo like they get like

23:22

lad or whatever it is not really lead

23:24

that you know like asphalt into there's and

23:26

you can zap and like once or twice

23:28

and they're gone. but it it it it

23:30

depends. it has has a tattoo like idiots,

23:32

sort of an amateur casio. you know where

23:34

you were imprisoned someone tattooed you like that's

23:36

probably going to come out a lot easier

23:38

than somebody than did than a full professional

23:40

tattoo with multiple. Colors, How many consulates

23:42

would you say a someone has like acne

23:45

scarring or like if they're ready to like,

23:47

take the plunge on fillers or more they

23:49

want to start to think about something like

23:51

that. How many consultations are different dermatologists would

23:54

you recommend? Like to be just go to

23:56

the first when you go to you are

23:58

like if you go yeah. Hoping I got

24:00

another person like telling me like that like.

24:03

Alley. How much you shop around before you

24:05

commit? I. Know for me I think

24:07

a lot of the pieces that see me

24:09

they do they like we're They say that

24:12

their state come to me because I tend

24:14

to be more conservative with things I don't

24:16

try to get too aggressive uncertainly. I don't

24:18

like up saw people. In fact I'd rather

24:20

than not do anything at all then to

24:22

do something and hate with a deal you

24:24

know like I'm not the personal trainer like

24:26

get the money out of them and I

24:29

think that they have. They appreciate that and

24:31

the understand that I'm not I rather less

24:33

is always more. You can always add more.

24:35

Later, I'm curious about a block of

24:37

last year. Yes, both of these are

24:39

bad. They're pretty straightforward I'm curious about.

24:41

I won't one I think. oh my.

24:43

upper I. Well okay I'll

24:45

tell you one thing that interests that you

24:48

may be interesting to still two reasons that

24:50

people come in for their eyes that they

24:52

feel like they're heavier. Of course it's gravity

24:54

that causing s but a lot of times

24:56

people some protests sometimes that people think they

24:58

need an island that the ass and need

25:01

a brawler. Cause there's two

25:03

reasons writes. some people have heavy brow or

25:05

and youth and that and so as they

25:07

just remove this little extra skin on their

25:09

I which is the buffer apostates, it's not

25:11

gonna help the heavy browser they need to

25:13

do a brow lift to. I have like

25:16

I just have like I believe you're. Really?

25:18

Hooded as I was. so

25:20

if you kids your eyelids,

25:22

scans and. You move up, you'll notice

25:24

that when you pinch after a while

25:26

it won't pencil thin ill such had

25:28

sicker and you can grab the same

25:30

amount of kid and that's your brows

25:32

skin. So if you feel like that's

25:34

part of the skin that you move,

25:36

you don't want to remove that. And

25:38

am I less because then you just

25:40

really essentially selling your browser eyelid like

25:42

eats is gonna pull your brow them

25:44

or so. So I owe me to

25:46

get to. Does that make sense? You

25:48

know what you're saying sometimes. I'm

25:51

not saying that you don't need. A. New York you

25:53

couldn't do well with just and with and I

25:55

left school. I can't seal your too far away

25:57

from me. I can't I go look. More.

26:00

I got a better look out ready this is I give

26:02

I thought I had to get in the aggregate the of

26:04

this camera one oh. Yes, Now

26:06

by doing that yes yes you're doing

26:08

this x yes you take it suits

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So you started your Instagram in 2015

28:58

and then your show started airing on

29:00

TLC in 20, I

29:03

wanna say 2017 or 18 or something like that. What

29:07

has been your favorite part about the

29:09

show and what social media has brought

29:11

to you? Like what about your platform?

29:13

Like what's your favorite part about your

29:16

platform and its intersection with dermatology? When

29:18

I first started the show and

29:21

on social media being known as Dr. Pimpopper,

29:23

I was actually pretty concerned

29:25

and scared that

29:28

I would get like ostracized

29:30

by all dermatologists. Like, oh my God,

29:32

what is she doing? She's making us

29:35

look like an idiot, you

29:38

know, that we just pimped off pop pimples and

29:40

things like that. And

29:44

they've really been so nice to embrace

29:47

me and they're really proud of the

29:49

show and how it's brought dermatology, it

29:51

has shown dermatology in a new light.

29:54

And so that has been wonderful

29:56

about it. I also...

30:00

love, there's a lot of little kids who

30:02

like to watch Dr. Pimple Popper and they

30:04

want to be future dermatologists

30:07

or surgeons or physicians and that is

30:09

super special to me. I always take

30:11

the time when they come to my

30:13

office. Like it's ridiculous. They're going to

30:15

a doctor's office on their birthday or something just

30:17

to see me like that amazing. You

30:20

know, so I love that part of

30:23

it. Tell us about your thin care line. We've

30:26

got to use a few things. We love

30:28

it. Right? Like what was like founding

30:30

your skin care line? Like what like

30:32

what are your goals with it? What

30:34

is like who's it

30:36

made for? What's your vibe? Well,

30:39

it's all about it's all

30:41

about derma democratizing dermatology really

30:44

trying to make dermatology products

30:46

available to everybody because I think

30:48

when I first started on social

30:50

media and and you know before

30:53

TV even I've noticed that you

30:55

know a lot of people were asking me about their

30:58

own acne and a lot of people asked me about

31:00

how to treat eczema or psoriasis or things like that

31:02

or hydratinitis, you know, which is like I don't know

31:04

if you've heard of that the HS which is a

31:06

really common which is a pretty common condition but it's

31:08

not talked about very much and

31:11

I feel like they're looking for answers but and they've

31:13

never seen a dermatologist they may not have

31:16

the time or the money or the ability

31:18

to see a dermatologist and so they feel

31:20

like they feel out of

31:22

control right? They feel like they can't

31:24

find an answer. So I was already

31:26

providing the education with my my videos

31:28

and so I was thinking why don't

31:30

I try to give people

31:33

products or recommend products that I myself would recommend

31:36

to my own patients in my office. So it's

31:38

like it is cosmetic but it's also like

31:40

more active ingredient like active solute like right

31:42

that makes a lot of sense. Well things

31:44

that you can give without a prescription right up

31:46

up until you can get a prescription which is

31:49

when you need to see a dermatologist. But yeah,

31:51

it's not so it is all cosmetic based because

31:53

really none of this threatens your life but you

31:55

want to make sure you look better and feel

31:58

better and feel more confident. So that was it. you

32:00

would say is sort of more the cosmetic side of it. How do

32:02

you feel about exfoliant? I

32:04

think exfoliant is great. I mean, I think

32:06

it's particularly great in people who have some

32:09

dry skin and also people who have brown

32:11

spots and issues like that, like I do.

32:13

So I actually really like beta

32:15

hydroxy acids, like salicylic acid. If you have

32:17

my, I think you might have my acne

32:20

system, you should try the salicylic acid cleanser.

32:23

I think that's great on all skin

32:25

types, whether you have acne or not.

32:27

And it's really, cause salicylic acid is

32:30

really gentle on all skin types, whether

32:32

you're oily or dry or you're dark, darker

32:34

skinned or lighter skinned. And it

32:36

can help clear out your pores, but also

32:39

help to lighten brown spots and things like

32:41

that over time. So it's really the most

32:43

easygoing kind of acid, you know? So

32:46

I think it's great. Dr. Lee, darling, are you

32:48

ready for our final segment? It's our rapid fire

32:50

round. Okay. Okay.

32:53

Okay. What is your go

32:55

to budget beauty recommendation? It's under 10

32:57

bucks. Oh, like Vaseline,

33:00

Aquaphor, that kind of thing. Just

33:02

great. Like you could use that anywhere. What

33:05

is a product that you never leave home without? My

33:08

phone. That's, that's, that's a good answer.

33:11

What's, it's a look. What is

33:13

like your most inspiring like vintage

33:15

or like just like beauty muse,

33:17

like someone somewhere they still think

33:19

about? Yeah. I

33:21

mean, I love that. I don't know what the name is

33:23

of those times, but when you have that beautiful, like smooth,

33:25

like the, like the Greta Garbo or like the, what

33:28

is it like old Hollywood? Like

33:31

waves. Yes. Like that

33:34

kind of thing. I love, I love that time.

33:36

I wish I could, um, I

33:38

mean, has anyone ever said like Renaissance times or something?

33:40

Who wants it? No, but I know, but Greta Garbo,

33:43

that's the first time that someone, I love that like

33:45

1930s, like 40s reference.

33:47

That's great. I love that. So

33:49

beautiful. Yes. What is your

33:52

favorite movie that you think about like a lot, but you don't

33:54

know why? Um, a

33:56

Roman empire movie that I think about, I know you

33:58

gave me these and I thought I I

34:00

thought I thought about that. Now when I

34:02

get down to the spot, Holy Crap. We.

34:05

Were you in a telling people about. I like almost

34:07

same as. Oh almost got a going

34:09

radio the was. Yeah that people don't

34:11

want a don't really watch that much. I

34:13

feel like dumb. Or. These

34:15

newer generations don't watch that much. Princess

34:18

Bride of course, is always a good

34:20

one. Ah, I

34:22

do know I I I is crazy. Rescissions

34:25

is makes me cry. Does

34:27

it reviewed is so good it's really got

34:29

has really good of a this or that,

34:31

popping a pimple or extracting assessed. Accessing

34:34

assess: extracting an ingrown hair or

34:36

extracting a blockhead. Who ingrown hairs I

34:38

don't see very often, so they're always fun. Pinball

34:41

Patches Herb. Benzoyl. Peroxide

34:43

cream. Ah. Pebble passes the

34:45

false. The. Pennzoil Like that. It's a

34:47

non binary answer. I love it. Sallis at

34:49

a Gas At or Benzoyl Peroxide. South.

34:51

Like asset, chemical or physical

34:54

exfoliation camp. Ah chemical ha

34:56

or be ha ha ha

34:59

maker needling or chemical peels.

35:02

Chemical Peel A laser treatments or

35:04

seem treatments. Laser

35:06

treatments. That. Again, it depends

35:08

on what you're talking about. Yes, see, Mask

35:11

or clay mask Seat Mask doesn't really do you

35:13

so much for coming on pretty curious. We're so

35:15

grateful for your time. I had so much fun

35:17

talking to a meeting her so be so much

35:19

as a sign of all of your most active

35:21

on Instagram and Tic Toc are that are time

35:23

you are now it's use the most. Yes,

35:25

that was. I want you to promise I

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will have met some I'm in Austin. Please

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let me know it's your dinner and I

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want you to teach me how to put

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on a way like I would love to

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do like the real say. why world i've learned

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how to get really good wig application for my dear

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i'm pretty curious but also i could just like so

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like a soft way. I need all that too. I

36:21

don't pay attention to that much stuff too. So you gotta do

36:24

that. And you gotta do the whole Greta Garbo. Oh

36:26

yeah, I'll show you the old Hollywood ways. Thank you so much

36:28

for coming on. We appreciate you so much. Thank

36:30

you. Thank you so much for having me. You've

36:33

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