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the source of my curiosity as what

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I found in the last few years

2:15

on May Tic Toc who I have

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become obsessed with and love and I'm

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so glad he is taught her is

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black forager. Honey sees at Alexis Nicole

2:24

on Tic Tacs See is like for

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me she's my queen of foraging like

2:28

I didn't really understand early like know

2:30

about boarding. I wasn't really like getting

2:33

serious about foraging and then I find

2:35

like order. And I have been very

2:37

curious ever sense now. Also in that

2:39

time it's a kind of got into

2:41

like gardening ya know? I got into

2:43

my garden and I and I found

2:45

there is just such joy and like

2:48

growing food and eat food that I

2:50

grow. but then there's it's like interesting

2:52

gorgeous nis. With foraging.

2:54

As well, but I don't really know

2:56

as much about that as I followed

2:58

Alexis As tic toc I had just

3:00

become way more curious up forging like

3:02

can I? for it's like do I

3:04

need to go out and start like.

3:07

Foraging. For stuff at all. Really

3:09

came to ahead with this. Like pine

3:11

cone syrup that she made it's i'm.

3:14

That. I. Am obsessed

3:16

with it was like I think I need

3:18

to start doing this at the also the

3:20

history to them Really curious out the way

3:22

the Alexis packages history and in talks about

3:25

the history on her pays a come Very

3:27

inspired by I love it I love her.

3:29

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series or today is foraging for me. I'm

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com preseason. Alexis

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Nicole Nelson as an American forger

3:42

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3:44

on Tic. Toc as Alexis sneak

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old is your minutes and on

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Instagram as Black Forest where see

3:51

post videos of her forging. Find

3:53

that, cooking techniques and historical research.

3:55

I was minding my own business

3:58

and found her at making the

4:00

the mushroom then turning them into

4:02

these like chicken a finger and

4:04

chicken nuggets and I've been obsessed

4:07

ever since. Oh and also historical

4:09

research. And Twenty Twenty Two. She

4:11

won the inaugural James Beard Award

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for best social media accounts. She's

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beard. It fared feared. Baird Beers

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4:20

I am so happy to be

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4:25

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4:27

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4:30

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4:43

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Colonel Mustard and exceeded not know

4:48

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4:51

has Colonel Mustard it's you name

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a lawyer, is he a small

4:55

dog? He's actually issued saw you

4:57

know and twenty pounds of i'm

5:00

scared of every fags it's so

5:02

interesting are that is that we

5:04

have three dogs at our biggest

5:06

dog is weirdly our most scared

5:09

este like see isn't really near

5:11

it and everything by it's. See.

5:14

The only dog the is not afraid of

5:16

the vacuum. Like the other two,

5:18

dogs are so terrified of the vacuum.

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And for summary, then. Rose.

5:22

The it doesn't move ahead on her head.

5:24

she does not care but that is what

5:27

her truth is I'm the all. Season eleven

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makes her a dog superhero I know doesn't

5:31

mean we all have our strength spousal up

5:33

a D H D Normally a kid I

5:35

had like introduced to you about like how

5:37

you became a forger to. I want to

5:39

talk about Boise more broadly. I think I.

5:42

As. He gave it up. Liberal leader by the

5:44

I need to know Now how did you the

5:46

So you were just minding your own business and

5:48

York I want to start foraging like it out.

5:50

How did you come in through the woods? How

5:52

did he become like a tick tock? Sorry for

5:54

Jake? Oh my gosh. Well as a lot of

5:56

us do with many things, I immediately point a

5:59

finger at my mother. And I'm like

6:01

you to both. Ah, So.

6:03

When I was probably four or five years

6:05

old, I was out with my mother. She's

6:07

working in her garden. I suspect that he

6:10

was trying to keep me from being underfoot

6:12

because of four and five year old famously

6:14

do not have the motor skills to be

6:16

gotta gardening. And that's

6:18

okay. We all have our strengths. Yeah, we

6:21

all have parts for evidence and that it's

6:23

It's not the strength of a four or

6:25

five year old. fussy set me across the

6:27

yard. And. Would you say the grounds

6:30

that looks different than all of the other

6:32

grass which I had never taken the time

6:34

for notice before but suddenly it was like

6:36

see removed a blindfold for my eyes and

6:38

I did see the prophet look different from

6:40

all of the other gods to they do.

6:45

Give it a with I follow

6:47

her incessant because my mother of

6:49

never steered me wrong and this

6:51

overwhelming set of garlic and onions

6:54

to fill up my nostrils and

6:56

I'm like on excuse me what.

6:58

This is a for me to go go to like oh.

7:01

Most. Physicists only in Brussels or yard

7:03

onion were didn't stop him up and

7:05

adam to or dinner that your dad's

7:08

gonna make for a flavor. And

7:10

I would like stop the clock. Who

7:13

was gonna tell me? That

7:15

there's some good hiding everywhere. I

7:17

thought we had to go to

7:19

the grocery store. Know

7:22

their to the things I hear that

7:24

you can even dandelions to And that

7:27

moment set me. On my

7:29

trajectory. Wait, So

7:31

we're eating dandelions. Oh. We're

7:34

eating dandelions. I mean if Whole Foods

7:36

can charge you ten dollars for a

7:38

packet of dandelion leave you can absolutely

7:40

galore. And the your front yard of

7:42

Erode the and it's full Free. Okay

7:45

a penny saved is a penny her and

7:47

and I'll wait for the that. I'm really

7:49

finding the more that I get older and

7:51

so that is cool so use even forging.

7:53

and I was at a wild flower vase

7:55

and I was like four or five and

7:57

where you like me my mom hello over

7:59

until I got me take the wild The

8:01

guys that while bars or gray it's fast.

8:04

Food. Is honestly really the get

8:06

the keeps on giving and is

8:09

like really a little cooler so

8:11

users and foraging for that long.

8:13

Yeah. Like that. It's I'm almost

8:15

thirty years and I think this is

8:18

the most important question that I have

8:20

when it comes to foraging. Oh, how

8:22

do we make sure we won't act

8:24

like a just yeah I do cover

8:26

the middle of America. We got those

8:28

mushrooms and my stepsister yes is an

8:30

aggressive saruman hunter like in the woods

8:32

like she likes of Midwestern like see

8:35

and trolls or whatever. Yeah, he has

8:37

done the wrong kind of Not once,

8:39

but twice. and her and her husband

8:41

were giving just like. Full

8:43

emergency didn't fully emergency room, but they were just

8:45

like sitting their lives the way for a whole

8:47

now yeah to love each other and they still.

8:50

Love. Is So strong? Yeah, they still are

8:52

attracted to each other. After those two instances

8:54

I just from hearing about I was like

8:56

an advocate. Strong said when I was like.

8:59

A relaxer that? So how do we make sure

9:01

that worth the. Omega

9:03

was excellent question. Also so glad

9:05

that they are okay. I am

9:08

one hundred percent sure I know

9:10

exactly what mushroom they picked by

9:12

accident and those are Zappa lanterns

9:14

and will get sale. It is

9:16

that sale. Look

9:18

at I go in the dark they look

9:21

like them. they're cool cause they glow in

9:23

the dark sense the named jack o' lanterns

9:25

but they're not cool because I'm they will

9:27

make you poop more than you thought you

9:29

were capable of the bank So you been

9:32

forging since you were a kid and i

9:34

really just from following your t t like

9:36

you are of foraging all over like you

9:38

porridge like like when you travel you beat

9:41

your forging like if America with like. Like.

9:44

This like like like our continent.

9:47

Lake. Or how do like the thing the

9:49

foods change based off of like where you

9:51

are like is like the south and west

9:53

really good for like this type of thing

9:55

but the north east honey they got those

9:57

type of thing but right in the manner.

10:00

You've got these types of things like I want to know

10:02

about that. Every part

10:04

of the country kind of has

10:06

specialty is that you won't find

10:08

and other places because of course

10:10

everywhere you're going to how things

10:13

like your dandelions. But I was

10:15

just in California and let me

10:17

tell you it is cactus fruit

10:19

season in the southwest right now

10:22

I'm talking prickly pear if I'm

10:24

talking barrel cactus fruits. I was

10:26

having the time of my life.

10:29

I made friends. In beverly

10:31

hills foraging prickly pear to there was

10:33

a woman who also comes and gets

10:36

or prickly pear from back garden. We.

10:38

Sat we keep it. It was

10:41

amazing. I started tearing up because

10:43

I remembered that foraging really does

10:45

help build community. And

10:48

so it just depends here. where

10:50

I am in the Midwest or

10:52

we have these trees called Paul

10:55

Paul I I'll out about it

10:57

or you're dead birds. Are

11:00

so cool. They're like a

11:02

banana mango. They can be

11:05

com humongous. And into

11:07

belly particular to certain parts of the

11:09

country off the top of your head.

11:11

I love that I'm giving you so

11:13

much that like not on the probe

11:15

I'm keeping your your potatoes ion zapper

11:17

proud. I am proud bones to use.

11:19

Could you tell me your top. Either.

11:21

One or three

11:23

things per area.

11:26

Relic like. Like. What are

11:28

your top three things for my per area

11:30

that he like really love? Like I've never

11:33

heard of liquors for him before. I

11:35

just wondered if you're like other in it as

11:37

actually prairie of i'm just like family like holding

11:39

this far up your so she beautifully if you

11:41

know that the to be like wines and per

11:44

region. Or three. Oh my

11:46

gosh, no I can give you

11:48

a couple things. Parades and and

11:50

the Pacific Northwest were absolutely Licorice

11:52

Furnace of the top of the

11:54

list for me. One it's a

11:56

from that climb trees. I love

11:58

Manmohan. Video. Climb up a

12:01

little more see sides of large

12:03

old trees and I don't know

12:05

it's giving miss the goal of

12:07

given magic is a with her

12:09

bari princess It is not purple

12:11

but they're beast cute little fun

12:13

for on such as right out

12:15

of them on. The

12:17

move like hi, hello, I'm here It's nice

12:19

to see and do you prepare an ama.

12:22

Oh. My gosh, their roots. How

12:24

about licorice flavors? You could use

12:26

the roots the flavored this is

12:28

an even just suing or ma'am

12:30

while you're on a hike. They

12:33

taste so sweet. Stress.

12:35

Off fresh off the tree. Last.

12:38

Year when I was in Oregon and I was going

12:40

on. Little hiker rooney on my own eyes. a little

12:42

piece like hanging out my mouth like a farmer. Dogs

12:45

have a little piece of we. Feel.

12:47

At all good about so he adam.

12:51

Is it purple licorice? say singer read

12:53

licorice tested it is purple liquor a

12:55

safe thing was I know is not

12:57

everybody's Zalman, not everybody every I would

13:00

Where am I at people like my

13:02

life that yeah and it's like fools

13:04

your tongue into thinking you're eating something

13:07

really sweet even when there's no sugar

13:09

present. A on I just think it's

13:11

trickery should be awarded it's it's a

13:13

major some yeah you know about or

13:16

measure I don't. I'm

13:18

Barbara people will die as I do.

13:20

I was vague I was over there

13:22

are going oh my god are reds

13:24

Harry liquors flavored route I'm and was

13:26

me as of my does look at

13:28

me I'm and you're like oh not

13:30

swear blurb liquor as I am I

13:33

embarked on a no brainer. Well I

13:35

can I use did not like tomatoes

13:37

as an I learned to like them

13:39

and then I won the isolate. I

13:41

think that we do. I think that

13:43

we do pick up. Like.

13:45

New takes. Like. I agree and

13:47

I still don't like petals. That's every once

13:50

while I look at a pickle. Like

13:52

and I'm like. Maybe.

13:55

You. Know. Like. And I've never

13:57

more so. And pit bulls. Eye.

13:59

The like everyone so emerge you cumbre

14:02

pickle mindset where you can be cool

14:04

so many things and you can pick

14:06

up things and so many ways. I

14:09

mean. Once. You get the Indian cuisine.

14:11

You can get the so though like dry brined

14:13

pickles. a lawful mango pickle but that's not evil.

14:15

what we're talking about of I will I do

14:17

I do I do do as they open. I

14:19

need to sail been oh he what else? What

14:21

else? I like your things from like southwest. And

14:23

be. On. In the

14:26

south was I think that

14:28

they're mvp would definitely be

14:30

an old gonna be so

14:32

trump I think I'm going

14:34

to give it to barrel

14:36

cactus fruit. they're really parts.

14:38

I like making almost kind of

14:40

like a lemonade beverage with Van.

14:43

They're. Real tasty. Like who needs lemon

14:45

when you can just go and join

14:47

your joints of hundred different kind of

14:50

spread. A little sets were see yeah

14:52

they're really they're They add a nice

14:54

brightness to any this that you add

14:56

them to. I will say that much

14:59

like oh brother can also add an

15:01

element of slip be. To.

15:03

With this which is you're making a

15:05

stew. Amazing! yeah by need as a

15:07

thank you have to keep in mind.

15:10

Or he suddenly I live in handy like a dream.

15:13

Were. Selected candied barrel fruit like

15:15

little just a little chewy the

15:17

thing like a lot sui snack

15:20

yeah that's kill his I live

15:22

in Austin, Texas is there was

15:25

like what are Texas stuff like

15:27

Wonder Woman asked Texas has it's

15:29

own personal species. Quite literally the

15:32

scientific name is a deal. Spiro

15:34

Hacksaw now is the taxes person

15:37

them. And not only

15:39

and what are we that? well my gosh, you

15:41

eat them on their own because it is like

15:43

handy straight off the tree. I.

15:45

Love American persimmons we have. We have a

15:48

prism and species up here in the midwest

15:50

to but it is not. You.

15:52

Guys is. Texas. Is

15:54

for some and also in a very

15:56

stylish sort of way. or sat black

15:58

when they arrived. And

16:00

I just think that that is. I

16:03

think it's cool. Yeah. I think

16:05

it's sexy. We might a little

16:07

black dress moments Yes! And

16:09

I am infinitely jealous

16:11

whenever your personal season

16:13

rolls around. Well. So

16:16

we have here to school. Oh

16:18

my gosh. Well, if you're talking about

16:20

things that you can be foraging right

16:22

now. Ah, got some info from one

16:24

of my Austin friends that you're read:

16:26

Bud trees are flowering right now. They're.

16:29

Beautiful. There These adorable little

16:31

pink flowers all over the

16:33

trees. You eat them. And

16:36

their lemony. They're just like up

16:38

pop. Of sour sweet goodness

16:40

and a little pink flower. people

16:42

making sally from them traditionally read

16:45

one Now leave. Oh,

16:47

and and may you say

16:49

that wall. What about like

16:52

the Great Lakes? Oh

16:54

okay so we're getting into the

16:56

Great Lakes region of you will

16:58

have paparazzi around some of the

17:01

lower Great Lakes. Of your ticket

17:03

get near Lake Erie Ontario you're

17:05

still going to be in the

17:07

pop Hall map of the was

17:09

here in the lower middle class

17:11

but getting up towards some of

17:14

the Great Lakes heading towards the

17:16

upper Midwest you have been really

17:18

cute things called like bunch berries

17:20

and it's like. It looks

17:22

like a little poor size on the

17:24

fourth floor with a little ring of

17:26

leaves around it. It's just a bunch

17:28

of jupiter it is and puts ems

17:30

are and I'm upset to about i'm

17:32

in and ah and what I like

17:34

East coast. So of

17:37

course on the East coast you

17:39

have your wild blueberries. You have

17:41

your cranberries. Wintergreen is very abundant.

17:43

Some people are like oh the

17:45

Gun flavor Yes, that's where it

17:48

comes from. The from Wintergreen play

17:50

on Oh. I know, I

17:52

mean the berries really duties like wintergreen

17:54

dumb, a little sweet little men see,

17:57

A little air of mystery, I.

17:59

Love. For them, yes, stay

18:01

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of we the i didn't ask about

20:20

hawaii like I'm gonna what like just

20:22

like any like special honorable mentions like

20:24

have you ever see this try and

20:26

you got it wrong with us So

20:29

you mentioned hawaii So here in the.

20:32

The Lower Forty Eight we have a

20:34

plant called Black Knight. Said it gets

20:36

a whole lot of heat because people

20:38

always assume that it is poisonous. My

20:40

said it's not. It's like a sweeter

20:42

Siri tomato. I'm obsessed with

20:44

them for life. has it's own

20:46

species. I'm probably going to butcher

20:48

the Hawaiian name. I believe it's

20:50

Pope. hello. On. There

20:53

might be an extra poll in there. please. Like

20:55

actually right for me And correct me if

20:57

I'm wrong because I actually. Really

20:59

do want to have this knowledge of

21:01

stored away and library for the future

21:03

and thereby my see berries are a

21:05

little bit bigger. There's also like the

21:07

historical practice of eating the greens from

21:09

them to which I don't see a

21:11

lot of people doing here on the

21:13

states. With. Black Knight said and

21:15

I just that. That's really cool.

21:17

I think the fact that it

21:19

can also exist in and around

21:21

like volcanic areas. I'm a man.

21:24

So cool black might say

21:27

though also is sound and

21:29

parts of Africa also found

21:32

in parts of Europe. on.

21:35

says. Everywhere you look. Very cosmopolitan

21:37

girly. The members of the art

21:39

so long I'm Ny grown. Complex

21:41

by a group of black might

21:44

save. I. Love them! They're one

21:46

of my favorite plants when it volunteers

21:48

in my yard. I'm so happy

21:50

to be! Where are all has like

21:52

have you gonna do like Australia like

21:54

eased like were all? Have you gotten

21:56

a for a job? Oh my gosh.

21:58

So I was just. We're doing

22:00

in Japan and the Japanese countryside

22:03

right outside of Yamanaka. Own send

22:05

this past fall and that was.

22:08

Amazing! First of all, very

22:10

obsessed with the literal Japanese

22:12

translation of so many of

22:14

the different foods. Also, self

22:16

love that there's still a

22:18

pretty strong culture of foraging

22:20

in a lot of the

22:22

smaller towns and the countryside

22:24

areas in Japan. Like when

22:26

both spring greens are common

22:28

up in the spring, it's

22:31

a big to do to

22:33

go up there with your

22:35

friends and harvest some double

22:37

club like it's. It

22:39

makes me so happy and I gotta

22:41

try some plants! That I

22:43

had never gotten to before. There was

22:45

like a native species of raspberry and

22:48

my friend with stuff like the others

22:50

might even like really a specific name

22:52

for this. My mentor was like oh

22:54

ya know that says the bearer You

22:56

can also eat. And I'm

22:58

like oh no so many edible bang

23:01

for your deployed are ya? That's avoid.

23:03

Another one. Would

23:05

ever heard that is so

23:08

was saved and just had

23:10

a he's ever done Superman.

23:12

I. For in Finland a couple

23:14

of years ago during sounds. Around.

23:17

And. Bill Barry see them,

23:20

Saunders skipper my basket and

23:22

just loading up on sense

23:24

route Bill Berries or their

23:27

version of blueberries and they

23:29

are delicious and someone offers

23:31

a really strong like. Nasa.

23:34

It's part of their national identity, is

23:37

going out with your family and the

23:39

summer I'm a full and foraging and

23:41

knowing the plants that you can eat

23:43

in your area and I love that

23:45

for them I need to make it

23:48

to Australia like I. About

23:50

I know all essentially be starting

23:52

over knowledge wise just because the

23:54

plants there. Are. So different. A

23:56

bunch of our native species I know

23:58

are invasive. bear. Repairs are one of

24:01

the cooking so I'm I'd also go and

24:03

help with that. I'd be like let me

24:05

take all of these different but with family

24:07

lives the gotta only both. I got it,

24:09

I don't I bet Australia as of it's

24:11

really cool stuff. Oh I can

24:13

only I can only imagine it is

24:15

it's like tippy top of the forwards

24:17

and bucket list for me. Is there

24:19

a Laker ultimate Pokemon card that you've

24:22

never found? Like you're like a like

24:24

the ultimate foraging they meet you really

24:26

want to find but you've never found

24:28

a at who. Ultimate

24:31

Pokemon card and forwards And

24:33

there in the Pacific Ocean

24:35

is a type of edible

24:37

seaweed that is iridescent blue.

24:39

And. The lights. And

24:42

of course it's name is escaping me right

24:44

now and I feel like I berated every

24:46

one too many scientific name. But

24:48

I'm like I'm going to find that there

24:50

was a spot it that was a sighting

24:52

of it says outside of Malibu and outs

24:54

of in California but it was so cold

24:56

when I was like I target Milan or

24:58

I will certainly Paris. I did not bring

25:00

my wellies. All. The way out

25:03

here so you get to

25:05

say a mystery for another

25:07

however long sign a player

25:09

and he was as simple

25:11

lose seaweed cool. Also are

25:13

American listeners I get out.

25:16

Truffles. Like like it or

25:18

the like. a historically town and like Italy or

25:20

something that people like come to the restaurant. they're

25:22

like old. You are the stresses even top of

25:24

like eight hundred dollars as to their American trouble.

25:27

There are about the troubles are so

25:29

excited as you ask me about the

25:31

zone of it. there is an apple

25:33

absent from Will that literally was only

25:35

discovered and described with them like the

25:37

last decade or so. Is.

25:40

It is an Italian one at

25:42

like that says that he remained

25:44

my. It has that same flavor

25:46

profile, that same side of super

25:49

savory a hyper mommy fills up

25:51

your nose on but they grow

25:53

in. Light up a lotta. I

25:55

was just texting one of my

25:57

boards and friend or Jeremy. The

26:00

Larder in Cleveland and he would like

26:02

look at all of these midwestern truffles

26:04

that I'd have found any you didn't

26:07

come up the same way as like

26:09

the you Like or the Pegs in

26:11

Italy and or whenever not the same

26:14

way other hanging out underground. Yeah yeah

26:16

but how are they made a couple

26:18

trouble species. Well how

26:20

do you know I caught the top Your had

26:23

like how trouble like what is that is that

26:25

of what it, what the what? our noses are

26:27

balls. There's a quick fix. This

26:29

is gonna sound absolutely disgusting with

26:31

a gonna turn at least three

26:33

people off and truffle forever, but

26:35

there's a full fungus balls. They're

26:37

just like before. that little. fungus.

26:40

Orb really forms at sports

26:42

so we can keep spreading.

26:44

It's if like a hunk

26:46

of super tasty smuggling pro

26:48

team. Hanging out under

26:51

the ground and they tend to associate

26:53

with different tree species so they have

26:55

like a busty that they're always growing

26:57

alongside of. And you

26:59

have to have no those trees to

27:01

be looking out for. Some people have

27:03

preferred dogs. yeah so many are in

27:06

the midwest who's of were all the

27:08

way the italy to adopt the trouble

27:10

dog. To try and you

27:12

know get into this midwestern from

27:14

full game Yes so our efforts

27:16

are troubles are because we didn't

27:19

have a soda about mycology in

27:21

like pride of twenty two for

27:23

are like pride and needs are

27:25

theories and we aren't high like

27:27

phone guy are queer and i

27:29

love know gala gala. The.

27:38

Case the Mediterranean through March

27:40

nineteenth at Whole Foods Market

27:42

Save on Animal Welfare Certified

27:45

Bone and Be Sort read.

27:47

Sustainable. While that sockeye salmon

27:49

and more sign sales on Parmesan

27:51

or as yeah no secretary and

27:54

ground lamb. Grab an olive oil

27:56

bread from the bakery. Plus winds

27:58

from the Mediterranean Garda just eight

28:01

ninety nine. Taste the Mediterranean now

28:03

and Whole Foods Market messy Twenty

28:06

one plants Please drink responsibly. Inlaws:

28:09

Love more heightened You pretty much stuck with

28:11

them, and when you are ruler in the

28:13

Middle Ages, that can be a serious problem.

28:16

It. Might even land you dead. On

28:18

Dan Jones and on season for

28:20

of this is History on telling

28:22

the story of England's with King

28:24

Henry The third season way over his

28:27

head and he surrounded by bloodthirsty relatives

28:29

with their eyes on his throne

28:31

to listen such this is history and

28:33

follow where ever you get your

28:35

podcasts. Is

28:44

there like whereas someone start with foraging? like if

28:46

you're like in a city or something like what?

28:48

Like what is something that you're like? Okay, I'm

28:50

I'm really into this. I want to try it

28:52

out and my own life. Like where would they

28:54

start? Like was like some easy things most people could

28:57

find. My too easy

28:59

recommendations or any one are get a

29:01

guide books that is as specific to

29:03

your area as you can find. Sometimes

29:05

it'll have to be a read some

29:07

a one. There's a series of books

29:09

called the Regional Foraging Series. For each

29:11

of the sections of the you are.

29:14

Excellent jumping off point. Sometimes you're

29:16

really lucky and a Conservation society

29:19

has made a book for your

29:21

area. My family and Martha's Vineyard

29:23

bears a Martha's Vineyard forwards and

29:25

guy, but the Conservation Society publishers

29:28

each year so as specific as

29:30

you can get and then. I'm

29:33

Selena for eating Facebook group for your

29:35

area. Not only will you get to

29:37

make some friends who might be a

29:39

little more experience than you might be

29:41

willing to take you out with them,

29:43

but just seen the posts and real

29:45

time. Loser. Giving you an

29:47

idea of what's actually in season in

29:49

your area, it takes so much of

29:52

a guesswork out of it and also

29:54

it builds community so vote would be

29:56

my to bake recommendations for anyone who's

29:58

just dipping their toes. Then just getting

30:00

started as so one thing we you

30:03

do like this on your social the

30:05

i just i love because it's intersection

30:07

all and it's like it's your it

30:09

so good at i'm in for me

30:11

sin as well as like storytelling to

30:14

use you sure so much about the

30:16

history of. Went. Of

30:18

of in fleet of Man of

30:20

Indigenous Americans and the ways that

30:22

these communities were systematically separated from

30:24

their connection to food and land.

30:26

I gotta interview Doctor Britney jock

30:28

years ago I'm on getting serious

30:30

about the ways that like the

30:32

government disrupted like I'm food for

30:34

Native American people and like the

30:36

way around or like separate added

30:39

but. Maybe. A lot of he.

30:41

I mean that was a long time ago. I

30:43

could always learn more about what is that indigenous

30:45

history of foraging and what have you found in

30:47

your research and of. Yeah

30:50

how what if you finding a research. I

30:53

mean. Indigenous people here

30:55

in North America have an continue

30:57

to really be like. V.

31:00

Thought leaders on foraging and how

31:02

to treat and how to best

31:04

gather. These. Plants that

31:06

are native to the states,

31:08

to Canada, to Mexico and

31:10

it really. Is always

31:12

really heartbreaking looking back and seeing

31:15

but these websites government was like

31:17

well if we take food away,

31:19

nothing gets people under control faster

31:22

than taking away their sources of

31:24

food. Whether that was through the.

31:27

Extreme like. Mass

31:29

killings of bison across the

31:32

middle of the country during

31:34

the eighteen hundreds, or whether

31:36

that is closing off swaths

31:38

of land of parks, but

31:40

then saying. Oh it's it's

31:42

apart. You can't. Come. In here

31:44

and other on Lan suffer some

31:47

of these people are ancestral that

31:49

their families have been gathering the

31:51

same foods on for thousands of

31:53

years which would lead you to

31:55

believe that it is possible to

31:57

do it without. Permanent.

32:00

The altering are disrupting some

32:02

of these spaces and. So.

32:05

What are you faithfully have been finding

32:07

is that in the last decade two

32:09

decades. A lot

32:11

of parks are a lot

32:13

of. ah I mean we

32:16

have Dab Holland as the

32:18

Secretary of the Interior right

32:20

now have been moving towards

32:22

a very indigenous inspired an

32:24

indigenous lead system of conservation.

32:26

You're seeing folks like the

32:28

Wagon Burners up in the

32:30

Pacific Northwest leading and teaching

32:33

people how to do controlled

32:35

burns because they know from

32:37

thousands of years of indigenous

32:39

science. An experience. That

32:41

those are the best ways to

32:43

maintain some of these spaces and

32:45

to keep a lot of these

32:47

edible species safe and healthy and

32:49

coming back year after year So.

32:51

So. Much of the story has

32:54

heartbreak for the last four hundred

32:56

five hundred years and I will

32:58

say it does. It does give

33:00

me some hope to see the

33:02

tired. Starting. That sage

33:04

after so much has been done

33:06

to. Remove indigenous

33:08

people from. A. Lot

33:11

of the food ways that they taught. Us.

33:13

I have a lot of the

33:15

reasons why some of my enslaved

33:18

ancestors and Mississippi. Were.

33:20

Able to survive as because some of

33:22

that knowledge was handed off from indigenous

33:24

people to inflamed black people on plantation.

33:26

And what an excellent way to make

33:29

the scraps that you were given as

33:31

a plantation. You know I don't want

33:33

to say worker but worker would imply

33:36

that you are getting paid. Ah, the

33:38

way to help with those rossum is

33:40

by knowing how to forage, Knowing how

33:43

to hunt, knowing how to trap, Knowing

33:45

how to fish. And

33:47

bad was a really big

33:49

knowledge exchange between indigenous people

33:51

and black people are lot

33:53

of like people. Also came

33:55

here with seeds with beans

33:57

tops a to be able.

34:00

The plant here as well. Are

34:02

there a lot of things like

34:04

Oprah about have now very much

34:06

made their way into American cooking

34:09

and have become synonymous with different

34:11

aspects of American cuisine in the

34:13

South East and. I

34:15

think that exchange of information

34:18

is so. Beautiful. It

34:20

is two groups of people, both of

34:22

whom. Have pulsars that were

34:24

so steeped in ritual and knowing

34:26

the land and knowing the plants

34:29

and animals around zero. One group

34:31

being taken away from where their

34:33

knowledge can be applied and put

34:35

some are new and then a

34:37

group. That be similarly been like

34:39

oh we.you we don't see a light of

34:41

what do you need to know. We

34:44

want to help you and the ways

34:46

that we can. And

34:48

I've been look fantastic. Granted

34:50

of course immediately after emancipation

34:52

ah people were like oh

34:54

timeout are actually we just

34:56

decided that if you don't

34:58

on the lam someone else

35:01

says you are not allowed

35:03

to forage Barrymore Lucy Poop

35:05

see and those laws spread

35:07

across the United States in

35:09

really put black and indigenous

35:11

to there are like anti

35:13

foraging are absolutely so the

35:15

way that they structure death

35:17

as before Emancipation. In.

35:19

The United States. Trust. Pass.

35:22

Or was a civil offense,

35:24

you might get a small fine

35:26

or a warning. Whereas after a

35:29

man for peace and. And.

35:32

The thing is, if you go and

35:34

look a lot of these documents and

35:36

meetings and town hall know it's. It's

35:39

people specifically said I don't want black people

35:41

to be able to gather food on my

35:44

land anymore and was totally fine when they

35:46

were doing all of the labor for me

35:48

if they're not doing that labour for me

35:50

for free anymore and busted, it's not fine.

35:53

So. They turn it into. A.

35:55

Criminal offense. Which.

35:57

Also, funny enough, slavery.

36:00

Made illegal except in the case

36:02

are incarcerated people's. Would.

36:04

Seiler them with Thirteen Two. They've

36:06

ah yes, yes, never knew for

36:08

that documentary. riots off by documentary

36:10

if you haven't if you're listening

36:13

and you haven't seen it before

36:15

it I sounded it's a self

36:17

Watts but it's a necessary wants

36:19

yeah, and it was a way

36:21

to essentially take two groups and.

36:24

Further, Suppress their ability to take

36:26

care of themselves. Mare community of.

36:29

And both last spread everywhere. Ah,

36:31

it became a criminal offense, even

36:34

in the North where slavery had

36:36

already been outlawed. Of

36:38

for decades. And

36:40

those laws are still in place

36:42

now. Then. You have

36:44

the formation of part systems, but the

36:47

national parks, state parks and for lot

36:49

of those spaces they also. Did.

36:51

Not want you foraging. They wanted a

36:53

more hands off type of conservation. And

36:56

so suddenly if you're not a landowner, especially

36:59

if you're a person of color is not

37:01

a landowner, your life will wait a second

37:03

before I could gather food. And all of

37:05

these places. And. Now you're

37:08

telling me that I can't and that

37:10

I to get arrested or even worse

37:12

I to get killed by going and

37:14

trying to get the same pieces of

37:16

food. And. So it really

37:18

makes sense that a lot about

37:20

knowledge fell away from different indigenous

37:22

communities and black community is pretty

37:24

quickly over the course of about

37:27

half of a sensory. So.

37:30

It's it's Wild was I phone

37:32

from daughter was at rule years

37:34

ago about how. About. The

37:36

blood quantum which I'd never heard him up

37:38

a more are like I had no idea

37:40

what that was like that was the government

37:42

like also trying to make like just trust

37:44

and like try to like made us megan

37:46

were delay any to bribe yeah like make

37:48

it seem like I need of American people

37:51

and black people like It's like well if

37:53

you do have kids with the Black perth

37:55

and more than your kid won't be able

37:57

to lend their tribe and an uncle and

37:59

you can't. Access. The benefits are

38:01

like the sovereignty. If you are

38:03

a citizen of it's mine, a

38:05

private citizen accelerate. It really was

38:07

a way to like separate. Like

38:10

divide conquer Like I can't even

38:12

believe. That like. The

38:14

bloods. I as like. Talk about

38:16

compartmentalizing Like a ceiling? I don't. I

38:18

know it's like a because even a

38:20

seat. I think they still

38:22

exist. Oh I

38:24

have friends who have

38:27

slept since on their

38:29

tribal citizenship. And.

38:32

It's. It's wild for me

38:35

now. Worth the other side of

38:37

that point is. You. Don't want

38:39

people claiming that ancestry who don't have

38:41

a place to who do not have

38:43

the cultural ties were not raised with

38:45

them. A cold sir. But.

38:47

It also feels. So.

38:50

Scary. and I'd say post apocalyptic

38:52

accept is already happening now. Or

38:55

to give the government's especially the

38:57

government of a hundred or so

38:59

years ago who famously was awful

39:01

to indigenous people the power to

39:03

be like, oh, Well, we're

39:06

just going to go ahead and

39:08

determine how indigenous. Yeah, it's like

39:10

if you didn't qualify or whatever

39:12

a hundred years ago and you

39:15

got out and then oh, it's

39:17

it's terror. It's kind of terrifying

39:19

and a lot of people probably

39:21

have like last ties of their

39:24

ancestry. Just because they

39:26

didn't have. A family

39:28

member who happened to be on

39:30

the role when the United States

39:32

government decided. okay, we're taking the

39:35

role right now, Right right now

39:37

and and that's it. It's.

39:40

Ah, the government does not

39:42

doing it, was not there when

39:44

it. and even now you have

39:47

communities that are primarily blocks

39:49

or have been historically poor

39:51

and cities. That. In areas

39:53

that were previously red line where we

39:55

have no tree canopy so if you

39:57

were say going to be getting. Free

40:00

food from trees in your

40:02

neighborhood or congratulations, you don't

40:05

have them. That's simply

40:07

not even an option for you. So

40:09

summer and a lot of those areas

40:11

are also food desert so wouldn't have

40:13

been amazing. If. There was at

40:16

least access to some free food. In

40:18

addition to all of the other benefits

40:20

that having a diverse amount of trees

40:23

in your neighborhood brings like temperature modulations

40:25

are not having to spend as much

40:27

on your heating and your cooling both

40:29

like. People. People

40:31

die from Communities getting too hot in

40:33

the summer time especially of the world

40:36

is getting hotter so it continues in

40:38

a way to this day. And.

40:41

You. Ever want some people really bad

40:44

when reparations get mentioned but I'm

40:46

like at this point what other

40:48

than money is going to even

40:50

begin to fix the problem with

40:52

for are indigenous community caused by

40:54

trees being ignored up for black

40:56

folks especially the ones who are

40:58

promised things like forty his cousin,

41:00

a mule and it never happened

41:02

knock them down have been banned

41:04

spend another thing I really feel

41:06

like most people are like oh

41:08

like be people did all of

41:10

this work for free. And then

41:12

they were promised forty acres in a

41:14

mule. but then that happen. Could Lincoln

41:17

got shot and then fucker Jackson came

41:19

in and then he like rescinded all

41:21

of that. So what gives is sadly

41:23

did give free stuff to all the

41:25

people in the west to like moved

41:27

out west. Like? didn't all those people

41:30

get like freelance just swaths of land

41:32

freshly taken from indigenous people. So apparently

41:34

some people could get land and for

41:36

some of that six forty acres in

41:38

a mule mad just ended up being

41:40

given back to white farmers. Yeah and

41:43

it's like then I do Yellowstone. We

41:45

like romanticize that were like oh my

41:47

god they had it really hard. but

41:49

we don't think about like yeah, it's

41:51

sunny and I realize that we also

41:53

get a lot of North Korean propaganda

41:56

and our own way. I'm like oh

41:58

no. One. Like

42:00

oh, Mount Rushmore was actually

42:02

a sacred place. Before.

42:05

Hand man we just went and

42:07

car to be as do spaces

42:09

and to. Suits.

42:12

And I just think I'm a full

42:14

west road robot were like sometimes the

42:16

thing is so bad like as far

42:19

as I said see I don't hear

42:21

as I don't even I don't hear

42:23

like I felt like i know that's

42:25

like not the right approach but like

42:28

just so that you don't fly for

42:30

hims you just and were always fighting

42:32

a get sick feeling numb after just

42:35

be overwhelmed with all of the injustices

42:37

that you know have happened and continue

42:39

to happen Similar little here is there.

42:41

A Forged Powdered Donuts. Is there a way

42:43

that we had more and more powder known

42:46

as like as they're just like selling naturally

42:48

occurring powdered don't adds that we tend to.

42:50

That's what I usually do and I get

42:52

this depressed. Am I to

42:54

tell you something to forage with

42:56

which you could make a powdered

42:58

Dlna? So our starters. I would

43:00

start with some acorn flower because

43:02

while doesn't have the gluten that you're

43:04

going to get from wheat flour,

43:06

you absolutely have enough starchiness, the kind

43:08

of like hold a loaf of

43:10

something together so I would use

43:13

some a flower I would definitely use

43:15

a little bit of like I

43:17

use starter of some sort to get

43:19

it nice and bubbly like you

43:21

would do for a sour. Dough if

43:23

we were going to be putting of

43:26

filling in I am bias of the

43:28

child of like a born and bred

43:30

New Englander I would want some beach

43:32

plum sally at the center of my

43:34

don't I think that batch of sounds

43:36

more south test not you sleep not

43:38

to chart and terms of the powdered

43:40

sugar on top you would go. Gather.

43:42

Some maple syrup. Words: I have been

43:45

doing it or about school. Cook some

43:47

down. Right after we're done sobbing, Cook

43:49

it down until it gets to a

43:52

sober point you go and so it

43:54

suddenly starts to crystallize and disorder. Songs:

43:57

Run. That through a food processor

43:59

or of. Or coffee grinder together

44:01

to powdered sugar consistently the fat on

44:03

top of your dell Not serve. My

44:05

God I love that. So how have

44:07

you like learned so much? and then

44:10

how do you take your life in

44:12

your experience in what you've learned and

44:14

then put that into social media? when

44:16

your social media has blown up so

44:18

much in the last few years? It's

44:20

like how do you see connected to

44:23

yourself? like what's. What?

44:25

Is like your fellow like forging

44:27

community been like and they're like

44:29

oh. But. How do

44:31

you handling the positive than negative?

44:34

Just the flies that you created.

44:36

How how's it been over the

44:38

last two years? It's definitely a

44:40

tough balancing earth and my therapist

44:42

says the sega singer from me

44:45

all the time. Yeah my Romario

44:47

to use. Amazing! I was recommended

44:49

to. Hundred

44:52

model to literally everyone trying to

44:54

exist in this world that we

44:56

are am right now, so that's

44:59

a big part of the the

45:01

self care puzzle. While.

45:03

Being a person who is very

45:05

online. I. Have to constantly remind

45:07

myself. That everything but I

45:10

do doesn't have to be contents. Ah,

45:12

you know I made my really fine

45:14

maple syrup video but you know this

45:16

afternoon me and my friends are just

45:19

gonna have a fire in the backyard,

45:21

cut down some Sat, maybe make some

45:23

more than catch up and that we

45:25

need to be content. That suits you

45:28

know, filling your cup. That.

45:30

Says community that says

45:32

you know a beautiful

45:34

moments and. Reminding myself

45:36

of that helps me stay pretty

45:38

even Keel. Also. Spending time

45:41

outside is always good for my

45:43

mental health. So the fact that

45:46

that is intrinsically linked to what

45:48

my job is now. Is

45:51

Huge! It. It

45:53

makes so much of a difference. You have a

45:55

cook book coming out when is a kind of

45:57

what are your favorite recipes when can we buy

45:59

it Tells every. Oh. My gosh

46:01

so we aren't any waiting to full

46:03

little bit longer. We're shooting for about

46:05

this time as when I met earlier

46:07

them as time next year so people

46:09

didn't have it in their hands and

46:11

start getting ready for the spring. The.

46:14

Recipes and at that are my favorite.

46:16

I'm obsessed with the acorn bacon. I.

46:19

Love it! Both from a flavor standpoint

46:21

and of food science standpoint, I think

46:23

it's a really cooking It is a

46:25

really great lesson in both. Have started

46:28

to work. And how sometimes you

46:30

to see to trust the proper. Oh

46:33

what's the meat of the bacon? Is

46:35

that like the acorn? It's the

46:38

acorn you take a porn stars. You

46:40

maybe make some little liquid smoke, some

46:42

salt, a tiny-of maple syrup. I sometimes

46:44

even add a little bit of powdered

46:46

mushroom powder, a little powder puff ball

46:48

mushroom for extra save or enough. You

46:51

make a little flurry with you poured

46:53

into a pan. it gets hot. First

46:55

the becomes like a crepe. And

46:58

many thought into slices and then you add

47:00

a tiny bit of an oil of your

47:02

choosing and then adjust christopher. Like.

47:04

A piece of bacon ah Edu

47:07

can put back on your Blt.

47:09

you. On. Your breakfast bag

47:11

or said ah so surprising. And of

47:13

course you know I know that it

47:15

is not exactly like bacon but I'm

47:18

like but it's salt seats and it's

47:20

saberi with a tiny-of sweet you can

47:22

make it a little bit smokey. It

47:24

really does serve a lot of the

47:27

same purposes. on offense lads I still

47:29

eat me alternative the all the time

47:31

even I'm not be noted, I don't

47:34

I see. Yeah, I'm into it. I'm

47:36

here for I love and. And

47:39

we hit like harm reduce. Like it's like a

47:41

huddle a do as so not He got a

47:43

nice doesn't be like. Always.

47:45

But it does not to be always yeah

47:47

of make him like informed decisions Rufus to the

47:49

best we can. I just had the most

47:51

and hi I'm Alexis A place where can be

47:54

bothered that year the most you do a

47:56

lot of to talk of Instagram you're pretty

47:58

like I do even see vulnerable. I

48:01

am. I try to. I try to

48:03

be on both frequently. I'm on to

48:05

talk ah, Alexis, Nepal and that isn't

48:07

a poll with a K. Thank you

48:10

Mum! On Instagram

48:12

as black Thirds or cause when I

48:14

made that page like five years ago,

48:17

I didn't really see anyone else. It

48:19

was like Mickey and The Foraging Spare

48:21

so. I. Chose but Florida. Do.

48:24

Will actually before he and omelets actually go

48:26

back to per minute. So good you hot

48:29

like a view It as. A

48:31

black for a juror. I love

48:33

that handle have you as you bend

48:35

become more visible in this public figure

48:37

whose really like become. Like. The

48:40

preeminent like foraging queen on the social

48:42

I'm is there are like have you

48:44

seen more people were you be like

48:46

you have like regular you've like really

48:48

been on the forefront of like making

48:50

foraging like a thing on social Gb

48:52

like you may the community more diverse

48:54

and noticed more people coming into the

48:56

fold. I mean I I I never

48:58

want to say that it was like

49:00

it just me. I like to think

49:03

that we are like to think that

49:05

especially the black community was moving in

49:07

this direction are already before I even

49:09

started posting. About the weird food that

49:11

I was making the save money

49:13

right from college and I will

49:15

tell you. The experience with

49:17

spoke to that the most for me and I'm

49:19

gonna fry hard not to be like a weenie

49:22

and cry about it like I normally do. But

49:24

I was out foraging and one of my favorite

49:26

areas of town. I'm just under

49:28

a year ago and two teenage girls

49:30

both blocks of ran up to me

49:32

and they were like you are the

49:34

plant lady You are the reason why

49:36

I know what this plant is and

49:38

this plant is and this planet earth

49:40

and I got to share some of

49:43

what I was forging would. Add.

49:46

I was like oh my god

49:48

and imagine if they now though

49:50

and service with like their families

49:53

or at home or more of

49:55

their friends like. Saw.

49:57

The gotten I am.

50:00

The here trying to be. To

50:02

the best of my ability. What I

50:04

wish I had hardened more of. Growing.

50:07

Up on because thankfully both my parents

50:09

are really outdoorsy. But I also know

50:12

that for. For boomers

50:14

in the black community like that's not

50:16

the norm. I just got very lucky

50:18

is having the parents, but I do

50:21

and not everyone gets access to that

50:23

knowledge from a young age. So.

50:27

I'm always out here trying

50:29

to make this knowledge as

50:31

accessible to as many people.

50:33

As possible. Ah, because it really

50:35

does. It opens your world up.

50:38

You. Never know who's gonna need it. Either

50:40

just for like you know, the caloric of it

50:43

all who you know for the food of it

50:45

off or just for feeling like the world that

50:47

they exist in is a bit. Grander.

50:50

Of a place that they may

50:52

be thought that it was previously

50:54

so I I. Like.

50:56

To hope that I have hoped

50:58

to the space diversify some but

51:00

I i do think about it

51:02

was diversifying even before I was

51:04

yelling at everyone through their phones

51:07

freedoms. That. Was.

51:09

Such a gorgeous story and I'm so grateful

51:11

that you have just brought the fullness of

51:13

yourself into your work and the you share

51:15

it so openly and I just love getting

51:17

to talk to you so much things are

51:19

coming on, getting curious, Know. Said

51:22

you so much for having me

51:24

to spam just the peak of

51:26

my week. So thank you so

51:28

much. Is. Foraging for me.

51:30

ah I think I learned that it

51:32

as we can absolutely for age. It

51:34

is also a way to like say

51:36

fuck you capitalism and like save some

51:38

money. I mean I love a Whole

51:40

Foods read just as much as the

51:42

next person, but like. Let's.

51:45

Get our own dandelion. Leave the

51:47

my rights. Ah Also, I think.

51:49

It's if. You have listen to this episode

51:51

here like okay. I also want to forage what

51:54

I really heard Alexa say is that like. It's.

51:56

All about your local community. So

51:59

finding what. This is an affordable

52:01

and York nice really important. So whether

52:03

that is through a books and in

52:05

the most specific as possible is what

52:08

I heard her say. cause wilde food

52:10

can be approachable, it's gorgeous. Oh but

52:12

I also loved how much he talked

52:14

about the forging is about community in

52:16

that actually like really helps to build

52:19

community. And.

52:21

I do think that like. So. Much.

52:24

So. Many of us are

52:26

suffering from loneliness and. I

52:30

feel like when we lived in New Orleans just

52:32

taking our dogs to the dog park like as

52:34

we met so many great friends in New Orleans.

52:36

It relieves as. We. Loved him leave

52:38

you know we go out for drinks

52:40

with and go mean so a foraging

52:42

as a way that we can meet

52:44

people and get more community. I just

52:46

loved that and eating that's beautiful and

52:48

eighty gets. It connects us to the

52:50

earth and each other sites. I took

52:52

a lot from that piece of those

52:54

really beautiful and I think some of

52:57

the most interesting take ways was is

52:59

that like prior to the emancipation in

53:01

the Civil War, trespassing was like a

53:03

civil thing, it wasn't a criminal thing

53:05

and so that I thought was really

53:07

interesting. Around like when when I

53:09

thought about like looking at those

53:11

orange trees as a kid it's

53:13

like oh you better not take

53:15

one. That would be stealing but

53:17

it's like we don't have this

53:19

like community oriented way of feeding

53:22

people and providing for people. It's

53:24

it's like in America modified, it's

53:26

mine. I grew up my water

53:28

as mites dust. Amazing that the

53:30

timetable of that was really interesting.

53:32

Also thinking about the ways that

53:34

redlining affected food like knows, say

53:36

canopy like. Just no trees like

53:39

we were really thinking about. like

53:41

making communities that we're back to

53:43

my redlining like more accessible for

53:45

food so I thought that was

53:47

really interesting. I'm and devastating and

53:50

also. Churches.

53:52

Don't pay no fucking taxes. That's

53:54

what I'm curious about. Zeal and.

53:57

You. All churches and all the

53:59

other. Hundred ah pay taxes. Because

54:01

this so I'm starting here to

54:04

for the Church of Deck where

54:06

we. Celebrate. Pinus

54:08

and we don't pay our taxes

54:10

while we celebrate. Penis.

54:13

And I'm also curious about. The.

54:15

Guilford or did see Kris K. really

54:17

Start: did you as you that it's

54:20

awkward? Kris K. started her own church

54:22

of of California. To. Do they

54:24

really do that? Because. I mean, we all

54:26

need our church. Of getting. I'm.

54:30

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54:33

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