Every time you cooperate, they escalate. Every time you're fair, they take more.

This is a podcast about high-conflict divorce. For the spouse who keeps trying to be reasonable with someone who isn't negotiating.

A system for getting through, in three phases. Get Clear. Get Going. Get Your Life Back. I'm Corey Shapiro. NYC divorce attorney. 25 years in family law. Child of divorce. Watched my mother make the biggest decision of her life at her worst moment, with nobody helping her slow down.

The companion to my book, Getting Divorced Without Losing Your Mind. Seasons follow a curriculum. One full arc per year. Listen in order if you're early in the process. Jump in anywhere if you're already mid-divorce. New episodes Thursdays during the season.

For information and entertainment only. Not legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.