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All right, seems like most people
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have streamed in. Welcome
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everybody. I'm Kelly Forrester. Nice
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to be back. I haven't done one of these in a
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while. And what a true pleasure
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to do it with David. So
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want to give a shout out, David, to
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everybody? Hey, everybody. Thanks. Thanks
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for joining. Interesting topic. I
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didn't know was a topic until Kelly and
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John sort of informed
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me that there's some
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misperceptions, misinformation, or
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something about something
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that is part of the
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GTD process. So
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happy to engage. Yay.
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Yeah, just a good nice
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chat around context. It's one
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of those pieces of GTD that a
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lot of people say, oh, they associate
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context. Our GTD and GTD is all
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about context. So just want to talk
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about that, talk about wide
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ranging from what's changed over the
1:09
years to myths about context. And
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you're also going to get a
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peek at what my contexts are
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as well as David's. So
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I'll drive the bus here. John
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Forrester, who I also know pretty
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well, is on
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the webinar as well. You'll see John pop
1:26
into that chat quite a bit. He also
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will have some questions. Is that right, John?
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You have some questions people have sent you.
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Right. For those of you who are on here
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and have questions along the way, feel
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free to put those in the chat window.
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I'll capture those. And depending
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on where they show up during the
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webinar, I'll either hand those to David and
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Kelly along the way or save them for the
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Q&A section at the end. Here's
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what we're going to cover. And we
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may cover more than this based
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on questions or what occurs to us. But
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here's kind of the first. framework of what we
2:01
were thinking of is what's
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changed around context? So
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when we first David
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wrote the book, you know, there was
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a certain idea and the landscape was
2:13
different for workflow and technology and places
2:15
where we work. How many of
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you would say now just the fact
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where you work is different pre-pandemic.
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You work mostly at home now.
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Is that, is that,
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has that changed for you? So
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seeing vastly different. A
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couple of yeses. So how many of you
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are just that sheer nature? You don't go
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to an office anymore. You really are working
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from home. So there's this blend of, okay,
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I'm in home mode and now I'm in work mode.
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So that's one in the, in the
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just recent years, certainly.
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So we'll talk about just
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kind of what's changed around all of that kind
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of stuff. Great input. So
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yeah, it seems like a lot of you
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are working from home. One
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large context. How do you break that out?
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Change jobs, went
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from home, worked from home before the pandemic and
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we'll never, we'll never go back.
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Yeah. So we'll talk about that. We'll
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talk about what's changed. We will also
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talk about myths. Some of
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the things that we've heard over the years
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through forum discussions, through
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classes, webinars, people writing
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in, just kind of what are
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some of the myths that, you know, context need to
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be this or they need to be this or they
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can't be this. We just thought it'd
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be fun to talk about what some of those common myths
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are. And I always love bringing these kinds
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of things to David of, you know, David, here's
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what people are thinking this is about. And, um,
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we've had quite a few of these over the years. Well, let's say,
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well here's how people are interpreting it. David's
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like, he said to me the other day, when we
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were talking about this, he said, did
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I write that in the book? That context
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have to be a certain list. I said,
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no, but you know, people. want to
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also do GTD well.
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How many of you would say that you have
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had a question at times like, well, what are
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the right contexts? Has that ever occurred to you?
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What are the right ones to have? Is
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it breaking a rule in some way? Just
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want to dissect that one a little bit, just so
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you don't feel like you're breaking a rule or
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not doing GTD well. I think there's a
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lot more flexibility with GTD than
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people often realize. You'll get
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a peek into our list, just what our contexts are.
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You're going to see they're very different. And
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also, ours have changed over the
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years. Mine have changed significantly, certainly
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the tools I've used. And sometimes the
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tool dictates how I'm using a context,
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interestingly. So I'll talk to you about
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what that means. And
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then Q&A at the end. But as
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I mentioned, we'll sprinkle that throughout. Let's
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just get on the same page in
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common language here about what we mean
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by context. So in
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some really broad
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definitions. And you can certainly have your
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own as well here. Generally,
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in the GTD speak,
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they're the people, places, situations,
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tools you need to
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get work done. They're
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what you're using to get things done. I need
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to be in my home. I need to be
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in my car. I need a laptop. I
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need a
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certain mindset, something like that. So just
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want to make sure we all know what we mean by context.
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And context, sometimes people will say, well,
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that means a location. Because
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naturally, it's like, oh, I need to be
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in this place. Not necessarily. Place could also
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be, I need to be in front of
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this tool. Or I need to be in this
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particular way of thinking. So just want to talk
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to you about that as well. And
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the purpose of context, straight from
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the book, is context sorted lists
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prevent unnecessary reassessment about what to
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do. So instead
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of one. one giant list
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of choices that you have to sift through
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and half of it you can't even do,
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context helps simplify that for
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you. So David, could
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I get you to talk a
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little bit here about context and why when you
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were developing GTD, you felt like this was an
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important piece? Well,
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it actually emerged from the
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early days where my
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early seminars I was doing and
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we were using a paper-based planner, we were using a
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time design system in the US and
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discovered that I
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had all my next actions on
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a separate list from my calendar, which was a
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kind of a radical approach from time management even
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to begin with, but then at a
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certain point, I got a phone, of course
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it weighed about four pounds and hung on my
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belt and realized, wait a
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minute, there are times when
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I could just make calls where I can't
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do anything else. Would it be
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nice to sort of sort out the
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calls I need to make because I could do that now
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in a more mobile context. And
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so I created a separate list called calls to
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make from all my other actions
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and that helped tremendously. So that's kind
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of how it all started. I had a
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good friend who had a sailboat, he was
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in my retired, he had a sailboat in
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Boston or up in Maine, lived
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in Boston. And when I was
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talking about this in the seminar, I said, oh wow, I
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could create a list called at sailboat, not
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about the sailboat, because some of the things he needed to
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do, some next actions he needed to take, he needed to
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buy at the boat store
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in Boston. But there
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were things he wanted to do when he was on his
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catabaran in Maine
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that only he wanted to do there. He
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said, that'd be nice to put those things
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that I want to do there on that
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list. So those were some of the early
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days as we
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began to realize that people could use
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context to simplify their life and
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to make it. more efficient, effective, and feel
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like they were more on top of the
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game when they could sort the reminders of
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the work they needed to do or the,
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you know, the actions they wanted to take about
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anything to have them sorted
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in a way that worked. So
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that was where the context idea started. Then
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when the Palm pilot showed up, you know,
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which was great. It was very easy to
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then sort your actions into different kinds of
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lists. And even move them from
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one to the other. If you might want to do
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that. And so, you know,
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as the technology advanced as we sort of
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advanced our thinking and there are experienced with
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GTD We didn't
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call it GTD back then, but you know, when
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but it became that in terms of
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methodology. So there was no hard rule
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about any of this. It just emerged
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as a sort of practical Conclusion
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about what to do with all
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this once you kind of got the basic
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principles called empty your head to find your
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work to find the actions and projects
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and then see reminders of those in
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some appropriate context. So
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just became more aware of that as
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our context began to be more discriminant.
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You did. That's a great segue into
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what's changed over the years. And
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so, yeah, in the early days. I
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remember time design paper system. I had
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one next actions list. And
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you didn't have that seamless move
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things between lists. So certainly computer
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technology and applications.
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For those of you are doing like
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using your list electron managing your list
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electronically that's changed quite a bit. How
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many of you are what, where are
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you storing your list in a digital
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system or a paper system. Where
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are you storing your list. You can even
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list the tool if you want. I know
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that people love sharing their tool that on
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the focus. Lots of you are using digital
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impact everybody digital so far things
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on the focus outlook. Digital
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only Nirvana. of Sauna, Todoist,
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digital and paper for Sebastian,
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Microsoft Todo, some
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of each. Yeah,
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so. And let me put back on all
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of you. Where do you keep your grocery list?
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Paper for me. Welcome,
10:19
I posted on the free stuff we need.
10:22
So, you know, that's a context.
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And that's a context separate organization.
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Yeah, I think that is an interesting point, David, because
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people say, well, it's all electronic, it's all digital. And
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when I think of John's going to go over into
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the store, one of us are going to go do
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errands. It's a three by
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five card, we have a stack of
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them in the key drawer where we
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keep keys, pens, right when we
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walk in the door, it's our first flat
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surface, but it's in a drawer. That's where
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those are. And we almost always have a
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list going. And because that's easier, it's not
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it's just easier for us. Other people might
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go now we have digital list that works
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for me. So there's no right or wrong here.
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It's really what what works for you and recognize
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that there could be some fluidity
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here and your own personal choice
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based on what works for you and your lifestyle and
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your family and those who who
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else needs to see the information. Also,
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you know, in the early days, David,
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I know you had the big brick phone, but it didn't
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do much. It for
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its weight and size, it
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was woefully woefully underpowered in terms
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of, you know, power. And now we all
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have these that are I
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can do as much on my phone many days, as
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I can do on opening my laptop.
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So just the sheer nature of computers
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and tablets, laptops, being
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Wi Fi anywhere, it really has made
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a huge, huge difference of what you can
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do. I do
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have a question for you, David, on that
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because a few years ago, you commented you
11:53
didn't see doing much on your iPhone, your
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smartphone, except for much surfing. Has
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that changed? Is that still? pretty much
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your experience. Yeah, it's got my experience.
12:02
Now, you know, and it's nice to
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have all that available. And
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I'm on the train and I have 10 minutes till I
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get to my next stop to delete
12:11
junk email or, you
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know, archive something or whatever, you know,
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that's fine. I don't do
12:18
work on my phone, but again, that's not against people
12:20
who might want to do work on their phone. I
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just like to do work where I have a bigger
12:25
screen and I have all the options of all the
12:28
different apps, you know, going on around me and accessible
12:30
to me. So I don't do work essentially
12:33
on the phone other than maybe a quick response
12:35
to something, but, and it's, come
12:37
on, it's a great time to be alive,
12:39
given all that tech that we have
12:41
right now. But again, that kind
12:44
of, that erased the context of computer
12:46
versus phone versus whatever, because you could
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do that anywhere. So I
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go, well, great. Well, have some sort
12:53
of generic context that says, you
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know, at, at
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online or at digital
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or at, I don't know. But
13:04
again, how many things are you going to put on there
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and are there different, you know, and if you
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don't have more than, you know, two or three screen
13:11
fulls, you're probably fine. I want to
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get by with that. Soon as you do, you
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might want to find some sub context that might
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make more sense in terms of what you actually might
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do on a train where you got 10 minutes before you stop.
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Mm-hmm. But most important
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question, David, where do you do Wordle?
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Is that on your iPad, your iPhone,
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or your laptop screen? That's such
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a critical question. You know, that's all I
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had in the morning when I read the
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New York Times and I just click on,
13:37
by the way, I got it. I got
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a second level Wordle. Oh,
13:42
that's nice. Oh my
13:44
God. It's like, whoa. Well,
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mostly I'm number three or number four.
13:48
So. Yeah. My
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response on, you know, where, what
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I use my smartphone to process,
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I do quite a bit on my iPad. However,
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I choose not to do, I do
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not have work email on
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my iPhone. I
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do not feel like it's productive for me. There's
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too much else I would need to
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access typically in Cloud
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Docs or something else. I
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don't even open the door. I
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don't have that as a, because I don't want to read it
14:23
and then leave it there. No, I'm going to press. I don't
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want to get to work. I don't, I'd
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rather just only do my work
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email on my work laptop full
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screen. Personal though, I, 98% of
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what I process is going to be
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on my iPhone rather than my personal
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laptop. So that one is interesting. It's
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kind of personal, professional, the nature of
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it. What am I doing? But
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we just wanted to mention this piece about
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computers that has changed so that your, our
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options have changed. We can do more on
14:56
our, our smartphone. There's also Wi-Fi access
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is much different than it was even
15:01
10 years ago, certainly 20
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years ago. It
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was just unheard of. So it was dial
15:07
up as I recall in finding a
15:09
phone cord in a hotel room and
15:11
doing dial up and even at home
15:13
in that, that long
15:15
wait for it to connect. So
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Wi-Fi access makes a difference. You
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know, as David mentioned, if you're on a train
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or you're traveling or in an airport, you can
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do work now in a different way than you
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could before. So that idea,
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if you're in the right mindset, you know,
15:31
I don't know how many of you can get a lot of
15:33
great quality work done at a gate
15:35
at an airport waiting for your
15:38
flight with those announcements and all
15:41
the frenetic nature. But you could if you
15:43
wanted to. So the Wi-Fi access is a
15:46
much, much different experience these days as well.
15:50
Yes. And Sebastian, that's an
15:52
excellent sound effect
15:54
for the dial up. Next
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one is working from home. So I asked many of
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you, many of you are now working from home.
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That's the difference as well. So
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some people have gotten rid of the ad office.
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It's just not even an option
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anymore. It's not even something to think about anymore.
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So working from home certainly has changed
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things for us as well. The
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fourth one I want to mention is a
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technology piece really kind of relates to number
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one, but it's really around the apps. So
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as you can see from my list,
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I actually have one next actions list,
16:31
but I use tags to
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delineate what the
16:36
context is. So
16:39
you don't necessarily, what has changed, the
16:41
bottom line of this one is you
16:43
don't necessarily have to have separate lists
16:45
you look at anymore. So
16:48
tags and labels and many of the
16:50
better apps I'll say, allow you
16:52
to sort that with one
16:55
click, show me all my errands quickly because I
16:57
don't want to be if I'm out and about
16:59
sort through 40 different things to
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find my errands. I
17:03
personally these days love having one
17:05
next actions list. And then
17:07
I can see for personal and I want to
17:09
work, but I love being able to see it
17:12
all in one list but then I can quickly
17:14
sort it, I just like the simplicity so I'm
17:16
at a place right now with my list and
17:18
I have gone, you know, up
17:21
and down and an accordion with the number of
17:23
lists I've had. David,
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let me flip it over to you on this one. How
17:28
much do you think of your list
17:30
changed since you first started
17:32
using context to now, how much have
17:35
they changed over the years. How
17:38
much? Not much. I mean,
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I think that's pretty much what they were to begin
17:42
with, you know, because I, you
17:44
know, I got rid of that computer and
17:46
at home I mean in that office. They're
17:49
all at at home. And
17:54
then traveling on the because the
17:56
pandemic, I don't have a distinction between
17:58
online and not online. computer stuff
18:00
to do, because
18:02
I'm just doing all of it kind of from
18:04
at home in my one context. So I find
18:07
there are not a whole lot of changes. I still
18:09
have errands, stuff to do at home. My
18:11
at home stuff includes the stuff I need to
18:14
do in my office that's more work
18:16
related. I've
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navigated different kinds of context, little
18:23
bits here and there that just
18:25
made things a little simpler. Like
18:28
I think you're going to show my list or whatever I have
18:30
a this trip context. So
18:32
if I'm going on a trip, especially a long one where
18:34
I'm going to do stuff just when I'm on that trip,
18:36
here are things I want to be doing. Or
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now I used to have a before
18:41
trip. Now I just put before as
18:43
a on that trip.
18:46
You know, before the
18:48
trip, here's the things I need to do. You
18:50
know, I'm leaving on a trip to the US
18:52
tomorrow or Saturday.
18:55
And so, you know, I've
18:57
been making a list of things I need to do before I
18:59
take off. And anything that
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I might need to do while I'm there. So, you
19:04
know, that's a different context. And
19:06
also, you know, I used to have a
19:08
lot of the writing stuff
19:10
I wanted to do, you know, somebody asked me
19:12
if I was if I agreed to do a
19:14
forward to somebody's book or, or do
19:17
some sort of a, you know,
19:19
some sort of input for that
19:21
was creative. That was
19:23
a very different context to be than just business stuff
19:25
that I did at my desk, you know, on my
19:28
computer, the financial stuff and,
19:30
you know, responding to emails and
19:32
business related kinds of things. And
19:35
so I created a creative writing list, a
19:37
very different context, more psychological
19:39
context than a physical one. Because
19:42
to do that kind of thinking, I actually probably
19:45
need to be in a different place than sitting
19:47
in my where I'm sitting now. So that's
19:50
so, you
19:53
know, but not too much else has changed. I mean,
19:56
these are basic simple stuff. I mean, errands to run
19:58
stuff to do at home stuff to talk. talk to
20:00
my wife about, you know, agendas,
20:04
errands. Not
20:08
much has changed, again, given
20:11
the technology and our lifestyles changed, kind
20:13
of a re-shrunk some things and expanded
20:15
some things. You know, yeah, I
20:17
sort of morphed those as we've done that, but basically
20:20
they were what I, the
20:22
basic framework was what I started with. David,
20:25
let me hop in here for a moment.
20:28
You mentioned your creative writing context. I
20:30
think at one point I heard you say that
20:32
not only is that a context, but it's actually
20:35
a different physical location for you. Is that, can
20:37
you say more about that? Yeah, yeah.
20:41
If I'm trying to write something creative, best
20:44
place to do is go into my living room, you
20:47
know, sit in an easy chair, tilt
20:50
back, have a glass of wine or whatever, and
20:52
do that kind of thinking in a
20:55
very different physical context, helps me. Help
20:58
me do that. Then
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I'll unplug my laptop and
21:03
do all the unplug things I need to do
21:05
to unplug my laptop from
21:08
the disk, et cetera, that it's hooked into, and
21:11
just go into the living room. And
21:13
that's where I tend to sit. So
21:16
to do that, not required, you know, I
21:18
may do some of that on the plane,
21:21
Saturday, you know, flying to the US, but
21:25
at least it requires
21:27
a different kind of psychological space than
21:30
just the work stuff that I need to do,
21:32
or personal admin stuff that I need to do.
21:38
Sherry mentioned a while back in the chat,
21:40
the tags and labels can get out
21:43
of control. They can become too many. Absolutely
21:46
agree on that. I
21:48
see that even more so than LIS.
21:50
LIS seems like a bigger deal to
21:52
people to make. Tags and
21:54
labels are so easy to create in
21:57
some of these apps that
21:59
people lose control. So I have some
22:01
just very pointed specific ones
22:03
that I use. So with
22:06
all of it, lists or tags, labels,
22:08
however you want to divide things. Uh,
22:11
I'll say what David said for years is have
22:14
as many as you need, but as few as you can get by
22:16
with. So I, I've never,
22:18
I've never used tags. I've tried
22:20
tags over the years time again. And then I gave
22:22
it up. Oh,
22:25
how did I tag that? And what was the word that
22:27
I used for that? And it was just too much work
22:29
for me. So Kelly, I applaud you if you've got it
22:31
simplified enough so that those are
22:34
simple for you and you can manage it that way and why, you know,
22:36
why not? But
22:38
otherwise it's way too much, uh,
22:41
cognitive, uh, rethinking and, and
22:43
reverse engineering to try to figure out what to do
22:45
and not only that, you got too many clicks. So
22:50
if you're, if you had to be, if you, if you're, if you need your
22:52
attention focused, you
22:54
know, how much time does it take for
22:56
you to organize something? And that's
22:58
a credit that's the critical, uh,
23:01
success factor for GPD. Yeah.
23:04
And that click number of clicks is key. I
23:06
know from diving into all the setup guys, it's,
23:08
it's very, some of them do it well and
23:11
some of them it's click, click,
23:13
click, click, click, or just to
23:15
get to it, something like to do is you can do it
23:17
in the line I'm writing. I can say, um,
23:20
you know, dentist about next cleaning at calls
23:23
and automatically adds the label. So it's in
23:25
my stream of typing. It's not something that
23:27
extra I need to click. So if
23:30
your tool, if it seems tedious to use
23:32
something like tags and labels, it's too many
23:34
clicks either. Don't use them. Um,
23:37
for years, I didn't either except in Evernote
23:39
in my reference, but I didn't use them
23:41
in my list, but now that I'm at
23:43
one lit one next actions, it really helps.
23:46
But I only use, I think it's six
23:48
total six, uh, tags.
23:51
That's it. I don't, our labels and
23:53
to do a swipper used
23:55
for, um, Kelly,
23:57
come up. Remember.
24:00
something called action here. One
24:02
of our first products was, we post it,
24:04
you could do a speed key, hit
24:07
it on your screen and write call bill and it
24:09
would show up on your calls list instantly.
24:12
So what's one big thing, if I can ask you all
24:14
in the chat, what's one big thing that you think has
24:16
changed for you or a couple of, you know, what are
24:18
some kind of the big things that have changed for you
24:21
over the years with your
24:23
tools, with your contacts, with
24:25
how you've approached, how
24:28
you've decided to organize and sort your
24:30
list. Sort your
24:32
list. What would you say has changed for you
24:34
that truly stands out? You go, yeah, now that
24:36
I think about it, I started this
24:38
way and now I'm using this. Context
24:42
or more fluid says Joshua. And
24:46
come and go as I need them exactly. Yeah,
24:48
so I'll get rid of lists too. I've gotten
24:50
together and broken up with the end at anywhere
24:52
less, more times than I can count. Let's
24:56
see, challenges streamlining my context. Still have,
24:59
I had way too many initially. Yeah,
25:01
I think that's a lot of people's.
25:04
They start with the, maybe
25:06
the recommended set or ones they think they need
25:08
and it becomes unwieldy to look at them all.
25:11
I think about creating an operational
25:13
versus creative divide. Oh, that's interesting,
25:15
David. Yeah, and we'll talk about that
25:17
a little more too. And we show our list
25:19
and different ways to do that. And we
25:22
got some interesting feedback too. I was just having
25:24
a conversation with someone last night who shared
25:26
one with me about an interesting context. They
25:29
used, John, what was that he was sharing with
25:31
us about, oh,
25:34
we changed the name of waiting for to
25:38
being patient or something like that.
25:40
Yeah, at being patient. At
25:42
being patient. That was
25:45
interesting. It's fun to hear
25:47
what people do with their system. John,
25:50
are there any other questions we've missed that would be good
25:52
for us to pause here and answer? About
25:55
a hundred or so. Okay, good one. They
25:57
can wait until later on if you'd like, or we
25:59
can start. looking at those in the middle
26:01
here, whatever you prefer. Why don't you pick one
26:03
of them? We'll pack one of them
26:05
now and then we'll go
26:08
after the rest in the Q and A. Randy
26:10
has an at knitting content text.
26:13
Here's one, how to choose the right context when
26:15
you have access to all or most of them
26:17
24 seven, how
26:20
do you have clear edges when there's
26:22
really not any limitation on what you
26:24
could do at any time? And
26:27
that also could lead into another question
26:30
which was about do you have context
26:32
that relate to your energy level? David,
26:35
do you wanna start? Well, I wonder you want me to dive in first
26:37
on that. Sure, if you have
26:39
no distinction in terms of all
26:41
your actions to do that you could do at any
26:43
time, anywhere, no matter what your energy or context or
26:45
physical thing is but I'm all on one list, why
26:48
not? You
26:52
know, come on, if you're gonna cook
26:54
Christmas dinner for your family or for
26:58
14 people that are coming over why
27:00
would you even wanna sort your grocery list? You
27:03
just want everything you wanna do when you go to the grocery
27:05
store, no reason to sort it.
27:08
Oh, here's the frozen stuff or here's the, no, no,
27:10
no, no, come on, just put the whole list because
27:13
that's all appropriate for that context. So, hey,
27:16
as many as you have, you
27:18
know, it might be a good idea to say, should
27:20
all those be on your active lists if
27:23
you have a whole lot, if you've got more
27:25
than, you know, most people
27:27
have 100 to 200 next actions and
27:30
if you actually have tracked all of those and
27:32
identified all of those and
27:35
how, as you can do 60 of those anytime,
27:38
anywhere, like we'll find, stick them on that list,
27:40
at some point, some part of you is gonna
27:42
go, you know, might be good
27:44
to think those are more important than others
27:46
or some of those, you know, have
27:49
a different kind of a context for me to
27:51
think about them and some of those require thinking,
27:53
some of those require just, you
27:56
know, business stuff at my business desk, you
27:58
know, to get done. And you might find
28:00
that useful. So there's no right or wrong
28:02
about it. Hey, what's
28:05
practical? I think
28:07
that question too is the reason I went
28:09
to one next actions list because except within
28:11
that next actions I do separate out. Work
28:14
in personal, in to do is you can create
28:16
different sections, which is super simple
28:18
and easy for me. So I can collapse work
28:20
personal if I'm in really in work mode. I don't
28:22
want to be seeing I need to do something
28:24
personal. But
28:27
again, I have I've designed
28:29
it that way to be as simple
28:32
and fast as possible. If any
28:34
time I find that something is
28:37
effort or I pause and go, oh, feels like it's
28:39
going to be a pain to put that in. I
28:42
don't have the right system. So I've tweaked my
28:44
system quite a bit to get
28:46
it really dialed in over the years. I always
28:48
have done that. But right now it's at a
28:50
place. So my solution isn't necessarily going to work
28:53
for you. My solution would not work for David
28:55
Allen. You would not want one next actions list
28:57
with tags. That wouldn't be a solution. So you
28:59
want to find where's your where do you have
29:01
the least amount of friction when you're creating it?
29:04
But that is why because I'm
29:06
in my home office in my home 90
29:10
percent of the time, except if I'm doing
29:12
errands. So for me, it just made sense
29:14
to move to one next actions list, but
29:16
then further divide that list. It just helped me.
29:18
I don't go to an office. Most
29:21
of what I do is on the computer
29:23
and requires me to be online. So it
29:25
didn't even work for me to divide offline
29:27
online. That's not even an issue or a
29:29
consideration anymore. All
29:32
right. So let's go into some of the myths
29:34
about context, which you may or may not have
29:36
had over the years, but we wanted to touch
29:39
on them because some of them are kind of
29:41
funny and curious. And if
29:44
this ever occurred to you, we just want
29:46
to dispel any
29:48
myths around this. So one
29:51
of them, maybe this is me just descending
29:53
my sister. One
29:56
next act is cheating or you don't have
29:58
a lot to do. I
30:00
have heard this from people over the years
30:02
in coaching and classes where they go,
30:04
is it okay to have one list? So
30:07
like I know you can
30:09
have home and errands and computer and all
30:11
these other ones, but they just like one
30:13
next actions list, not even using tags and
30:15
labels, just the next actions
30:17
list. Yes, of course
30:20
this can work. Contexts
30:23
are just versions of next
30:25
actions. They're just divide, their
30:27
next actions divided into people,
30:30
places, tools, situations. So if
30:32
any part of you thinks that you're somehow
30:34
cheating or you're disappointing letting David Allen down,
30:36
you're good, you're good in our book. One
30:39
next actions list is fine until
30:41
you get to the point where you go, wow,
30:43
it's taking a lot for me to get
30:46
information in and out of that system when
30:48
I'm ready to make a choice. So
30:50
you wanna take a look at
30:52
the effort it's taking you to
30:55
manage it in one list. Is it working for
30:57
you? And even if you have
30:59
volume, I have seen people,
31:03
especially in coaching, but I can really dive
31:05
in. When I was doing coaching, I would
31:07
see people's systems and incredibly
31:09
busy executives who
31:12
go, to me it
31:14
was, there was more value that they would
31:16
say to looking at one list in one
31:18
location rather than dividing it out and
31:20
having to think about where it went. So
31:23
your choice, you're good on this one. If you
31:26
decide to have one list, so. Any
31:29
other comment on that one David? Yeah,
31:33
anybody who thinks that one list works probably
31:35
doesn't have real specific next actions on that
31:37
list. They're used to a big to do
31:39
list and they don't wanna
31:41
change that habit. So
31:44
once you get discreet, but the real
31:46
next actions on those things, those
31:49
then start to make a lot more sense, whether
31:51
there's another context that might be useful, You
31:54
know, can see them.
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