0:10

Okay, folks, welcome. Again, thank you for

0:12

joining those of us who are just

0:14

joining us. Wow, Stephen from Australia. So

0:16

what's that midnight or something like that,

0:18

I guess, for you. So in any

0:20

event, I'm excited to be here. I'm

0:22

excited to be joining John and all of you. And

0:24

before Anna Marie goes further, I just

0:27

want to say who she is because some of

0:29

you have heard her on webinars before some of

0:31

you should maybe a new person to you. Anna

0:34

Maria has several roles at the

0:37

company. But the main one is

0:39

that she is called the super

0:41

master trainer. That's that

0:43

might sound like overkill for

0:45

for that superhero from the superhero

0:47

from the whatever they're called for

0:49

Marvel. Yeah, I want to know

0:52

the Marvel superheroes. She she trains

0:54

master trainers in countries around the

0:56

world. So if if you're working

0:58

with a partner in one of

1:00

our other countries who has a

1:02

master trainer training trainers, that

1:04

master trainer was trained by Anna Maria.

1:06

So she she knows

1:09

her stuff. And I'm happy to

1:11

have her here. Thank

1:13

you, John. And thank you for inviting me again

1:15

to come join you. I think it's always more

1:17

fun to have two of us for

1:20

you and for us. And also, as

1:23

you probably all know, getting things done is

1:25

one of those very interesting

1:28

let's call it methodologies for now,

1:31

or intellectual properties where

1:34

there's a lot of, in

1:36

a way, personalization, customization,

1:38

tailoring. I mean, there's some basic

1:40

principles that we don't violate that

1:43

will follow, but then it becomes

1:45

very personalized. So it's always great

1:47

to have more than one perspective.

1:51

Talk about GTD or teach you about GTD

1:53

or share about GTD because maybe the way

1:55

I say it doesn't ring a

1:57

bell for you. And then the way John says that it's

1:59

like, That so clear and I'm like all

2:01

that you're killing me, abuse and the same

2:04

thing. but it happens, it happens to all

2:06

of us. I think it's great for the

2:08

two of us to be here. I understand

2:10

we have a group of experience folks joining

2:12

us and somewhat experience and perhaps some of

2:15

you are more beginner were Had recently joined

2:17

the Gtb connect so I want to welcome

2:19

you again and thank you for being part

2:21

of this community and two web in r

2:23

that it's really a meant to be a

2:26

lab that's why it's called Skills Lab really

2:28

to help you and assist you. More

2:31

testing your knowledge on Gtb best

2:33

practices I wanna say up your

2:36

game. Or. Really look at how

2:38

am I doing a relationship to projects

2:40

and next section so that's gonna be

2:42

a that's a big component of today's

2:45

women are as and we're we're as

2:47

John was share with me what he

2:49

wanted it out of today. we were

2:51

looking to the slides and the activities

2:53

that with created for you. Also we're

2:56

gonna be having you know some Paul

2:58

I'm so quizzes is that so intimidating?

3:00

But basically will they be testing your

3:02

knowledge or you're going to be tested

3:05

your knowledge for the purpose of. Course

3:07

on deepening your understanding. Again, getting better

3:09

at and there's going to be lots

3:11

of practices today. It's really meant to

3:13

be an interactive web in r We're

3:16

going to have a few flies with

3:18

a few you know i'm number of

3:20

items and on each and every one

3:22

of them and there you go to

3:24

be practicing and. Hopefully asking us

3:26

blacks of quests lots of questions of

3:29

whether through the chat bots are raising

3:31

your hand or however you want to

3:33

do that or how are feel I'm

3:36

comfortable with so not so much will

3:38

the a lecture? It's gonna be more.

3:41

A working person. So

3:43

with that in mind, let's start with

3:45

our first question here. And.

3:47

I won't to you what is a definition

3:49

of a project? And of course you have

3:52

Or. Possible. answers and for

3:54

that we're going to have you answered

3:56

your question on a pole so go

3:58

ahead, John and you could pull up

4:00

the poll and then we'll let you

4:02

look at the slide, think of your

4:05

answer and vote. You

4:07

pretty much all voted and yes, of

4:09

course, very good on all of you.

4:12

C is the correct answer because the

4:14

definition of a project in getting things done

4:17

is any multi step outcome that can be

4:19

completed within one year. And

4:21

we can do more discussion as

4:23

we work through your projects list

4:25

because purposely I

4:27

want to highlight or underline

4:30

the word within one year

4:32

because it can actually be a

4:35

little more or a little bit over a

4:37

year or, of course, can just

4:39

be a few months three, four or five or six.

4:41

It doesn't have to be exactly one year. It's

4:44

the, to me, the greatest

4:46

way for me to decide

4:49

whether it goes on my project list or

4:51

not is do I need to look at

4:53

it weekly. Because remember

4:55

that your project list is the driver of

4:58

your weekly review. So this is

5:00

the one list that you're weekly coming back

5:02

to and it's one of those does this

5:04

outcome is one that I need to be

5:06

looking at on a weekly basis. And if

5:08

the answer is yes, no matter if it's

5:10

14 or 15 months, it still qualifies as

5:12

a project. All right,

5:14

great. Let's move on to the next slide here.

5:16

And basically we're going to have you take a

5:19

little self assessment. So on a scale of one

5:21

to 10, please type on the chat box. How

5:24

well are you managing your projects? Obviously one

5:26

being I don't even know what a project

5:28

is and 10 being you

5:32

know, I have my, I

5:34

have a complete project inventory that I

5:36

calibrate every single week as part

5:38

of my guided weekly review. So

5:40

I see a lot of different numbers coming up. So John,

5:43

because you're so good at math, what's the average? Right

5:46

before you said that the thought that went through my mind is

5:48

please don't ask me to add these up

5:50

in my head as they're going back. So

5:53

my rough, rough count is we're

5:55

averaging in the five

5:57

to seven range. Yeah.

6:01

Which means then. Obviously

6:04

that there is room for improvement. And

6:06

that's the whole purpose of to date

6:08

web. know that you identify those gaps

6:11

and those places where you can improve.

6:13

So let's move on I think to

6:15

what we have prepare for you as

6:17

our second always does. Not a polygon

6:19

again. Or next question here done

6:22

if you want to put it up is

6:24

now what is the definition of a next

6:26

batch. obviously in getting things done. So.

6:29

We're going to pull up the Paul. And.

6:32

Other, we'll give you thirty seconds to

6:34

answer the paw and once thirty seconds

6:36

have been by we will close the

6:38

ball. Light. Until we're dealing

6:40

with some experienced. Gtb.

6:43

Directors And there's here. And

6:45

yes, very very good. You all bad

6:47

the right answer John, you may be

6:49

too easy for this. Oh. Yeah I guess

6:51

next webinars going to be harder questions if

6:53

we can come up with any. Fight.

6:56

Again, if you wanna high life here

6:58

the answer on the slide. I want

7:00

to underline a couple of. Key

7:02

words in our. Definition because

7:04

of course is the best physical

7:07

this about to that he that

7:09

progressive some something towards completion. Physical

7:13

visible are cheap. And.

7:15

You will understand a little more A

7:17

or a little better or further what

7:19

I mean by that as we progress

7:21

into the web in r because it's

7:23

really important the you see yourself. On

7:26

completing the action, So. Whenever

7:29

you're thinking of next section as a

7:31

you're thinking of I'm choosing the verb

7:34

that best. The. Finds that

7:36

an exception for you. Keep that in mind

7:38

that it you always have to be able

7:40

to see yourself doing it. So that's why

7:42

we like to underline. I'm sick of visible

7:44

as well as next. Because

7:48

it's not the one after next.

7:51

Or. The one after after next. it's the

7:53

one that it's next. That it's

7:55

all. What an exception in. Them

7:57

and then of toast. They

8:00

were not only be a next section that

8:02

would bring. You

8:04

know the outcome to completion. It.

8:06

It's a next section that will. Progress.

8:10

Utah words are closer to completion so

8:12

he to be an either or. So.

8:15

Go ahead of one of the

8:17

things that I often see when

8:19

somebody saying on know really all

8:21

it drawn to my list they

8:23

just seem kind of has begun

8:25

mushy is that don't have a

8:27

mixture of next actions with sequential

8:29

dependent actions things they can't really

8:31

do yet because they rely on

8:33

something else to happen first. So

8:35

that's the other thing with next

8:37

actions as we could just call

8:39

them actions. but they're very precise

8:41

next actions so that your next

8:43

actions lists don't get mixed. With actions

8:45

that may show up later in the future that

8:47

you could do, but you can't do them now.

8:50

Correct. Sell sell, sometimes.

8:52

You. Know and. It's it's

8:54

adding onto the next factions list the

8:56

future actions as Johnny's Bang and many

8:59

times. It's it's in

9:01

our innocent attempt or in a

9:03

safe. Attempts have gone well. If

9:05

it can be on my mind, isn't

9:07

it supposed to go on a list?

9:10

But maybe not yet. So. Then

9:12

where does it go? And again. we'll talk

9:14

a little more about that later today. But

9:16

if it's not, the next Saturday does not

9:18

go on your next actions. This neither does

9:21

he go in your mind. It. Will

9:23

go someplace else and will will talk

9:25

about a moment or I'd wait. So

9:27

on a scale want to tell them

9:29

how well our humanity your neck, factions

9:31

and. You.

9:33

Know where do you see your gas? And

9:36

you can think of big answer. Maybe not

9:38

just the next faction as in the next.

9:40

Actually sell the baby, even the next back.

9:42

So let's give them what John and I

9:44

were just talking about a moment ago. So.

9:46

Is there room for improvement for this way?

9:48

Either in your next section thinking or your

9:51

next action lists management and you have a

9:53

second question on. That. Note: Might Yeah: Where are

9:55

your guests? And. Again as I

9:57

see you on a self assessing

9:59

I. The. You. Know there is

10:01

room for improvement so that's great well

10:04

day but you good of your any

10:06

not to them future islands or next

10:08

actions led that try to call and

10:10

will will help you today identify where

10:12

then should you organize them. Not.

10:14

Read mean them regularly. Yeah, And

10:17

then they. I'm sure they go. They go all

10:19

dated. You know they get outdated. Crisco or you

10:21

know, They're no longer giving.

10:23

You the payoff they're designed to. David.

10:25

Says collecting immediately as and gap

10:28

perch. When you mean by that David, you want

10:30

to write something more and actually. Ah,

10:32

now we're getting more gaps, putting things on the

10:35

list and not committed to. Moving.

10:37

On the next thing too quickly not putting the

10:39

next action in my system. Anamaria:

10:41

What do you think about that one? Moving

10:44

on with the next which one was a done.

10:47

One from just Yes isn't moving on with the

10:49

next thing too quickly and not putting the next

10:51

action in my system. Or. A

10:53

defense just. I mean sometimes that is not

10:55

an error in approach because if you are.

10:58

Depending on what are you doing

11:00

based on what you've decided, it's

11:03

either. Defining were doing pretty final

11:05

work. Or. Doing work

11:07

as it appears. In. Maybe appropriate.

11:09

I mean if you're on the flow of

11:11

things and you know and you end up

11:13

one next action which then leads you to

11:15

another one and then it's you to another

11:18

one because you're do you have decided. To.

11:20

Basically, do work as it appears. Meeting as

11:23

soon as a complete one a day identified

11:25

the second one and that is the right

11:27

thing for me to be doing right. You're

11:29

this moment. I don't

11:31

see an airline approach studies on the

11:33

other hand and. You. Are

11:35

in the process of the final

11:38

word meaning getting your in two,

11:40

zero or ozone know or also

11:42

known as your second step in

11:44

master workflow. clarify. And.

11:47

you know started getting detours right of of company one

11:49

thing and them I'm going to hundred and then do

11:51

in the next thing a mental in the next thing

11:53

is that of clients whatever the next guy that is.

11:57

Then. I would have to ask you.

11:59

What's. that the best user of your

12:01

time? Was that the top priority in

12:03

that moment? Why did you choose to

12:06

change from defining work to

12:09

what we identify as or

12:12

what we title as doing work as it

12:14

appears? So it's hard to say

12:16

what is right and what is wrong because it's

12:18

really based on what decision you're making in that

12:20

moment. Yeah, another

12:22

one is somebody saying it feels like I

12:24

need to spend lots of time defining what

12:27

my next action is. Next action feels like

12:29

a planning activity and I end up with

12:31

a large list to define. So

12:33

we have some

12:35

help for that coming up in a couple more

12:37

slides but one of

12:39

the things I can say about that is practice

12:41

helps if you or as

12:44

David Allen would say become like Teflon

12:46

so that as a next action shows

12:48

up you are really good at quickly

12:52

determining when you're in

12:54

that clarify phase

12:56

what the next action is and

12:59

getting it on your list. So when it

13:01

lands on your next actions list it's already

13:03

clarified enough that you don't have

13:05

to define it any further. And

13:09

also Stephen as I read

13:12

what you wrote when

13:16

you say it feels like I need to

13:18

spend lots of time defining what my next

13:20

action is. Sometimes for

13:22

some folks there's a

13:24

lot of it depends inside of them

13:26

when they're thinking of the next action

13:28

and then that sort of slows

13:32

them down or you

13:34

know kind of gets in

13:36

their way of defining the

13:38

next action because there's a lot that they

13:40

are kind of pondering inside. So

13:43

one trick can be choose

13:46

one and then if for

13:48

whatever reason that was not the right one change

13:51

it but

13:53

as you practice and your mind goes into well

13:55

it depends it could be this because you did

13:57

but what about this or what about that. want

14:00

to start kind of training

14:03

their mind so that it chooses

14:05

one knowing that it can always

14:07

change it. Because

14:10

I have found in my years of coaching

14:12

folks that sometimes that it depends in their

14:14

mind can be what

14:16

delays their next action identification

14:18

or decision. This looks

14:20

like yeah Ariadne saying having next

14:22

actions gets stale or

14:24

old on your list. I

14:27

don't have the link in front of me now

14:29

but if you go into GTD Connect and look

14:31

in on the home page there's a section GTD

14:33

perspective. If you click on that

14:35

there's one in the last just the last

14:38

one or two of those that the topic

14:40

is why are you still here? It's one

14:42

of our trainers addressing his to-do list

14:44

and saying I've got old stale stuff

14:46

so I ask myself why is that item still on

14:49

my list and he has some tips about how to

14:51

work with things on your lists

14:53

that are older stale. Yeah and

14:56

also with that and another one further

14:58

down I think John that he talked

15:00

about some next

15:02

actions don't get hold on something about current

15:04

that I read again all

15:06

of that truthfully at the

15:08

risk of being obnoxious it's resolved if you're

15:11

doing your weekly review. I'm

15:13

glad you got to be the bad guy

15:15

to say that. That's

15:17

what I was going to

15:20

say to Clayton as well because yeah

15:22

it's okay that you complete the next

15:24

action and don't immediately go to your

15:27

project and develop the next next action

15:30

because you'll catch that during your weekly review. Correct

15:32

I have next actions sitting on my list that

15:34

they've been there for four months and

15:37

I'm fine with it because every time I

15:39

do my weekly review I go yeah even

15:41

when I get to be at that

15:43

location and I get to have the time

15:45

and I get to have the energy yes I

15:48

want to get that action done but until then

15:50

still you know it stays on

15:52

the list. At some point it's

15:55

either completed so it's stick off my list because

15:57

I did it or It

16:01

lost its meaning, so I delete it. It

16:03

doesn't really matter if you're doing your

16:06

weekly review and you're renegotiating with yourself

16:08

week after week, that's fine. Yeah.

16:12

Let's see, a couple of

16:14

folks said one of

16:16

their gaps is putting something

16:18

on the next action list that they're not really

16:20

committed to. Off the top

16:22

of my head, my answer for that would be, again, the

16:24

weekly review. When you see that, if

16:26

you realize you're not really committed

16:28

to it, you can move it to someday maybe.

16:33

Correct. Or

16:35

delete it if it's no longer a commitment and you're

16:37

sure you won't want to in the future. I

16:40

see that from Marshall. Same as Kurt, putting ions

16:42

on the list that I'm not committed to accomplishing,

16:44

then don't put it. Yeah. If

16:47

I was coaching you and I would... We

16:50

want you to feel good about your list, so don't

16:53

set up feeling guilty about something just because

16:55

it's on your list and you're not doing

16:57

it. And again, Masha,

16:59

sorry if I'm not pronouncing your name correctly,

17:01

and Kurt, if you go, well, look, it's

17:03

not a someday maybe. Well, why don't you

17:05

create a list of things I'm not committed

17:07

to yet? I don't know. And

17:10

that could be your placeholder, right? Because if

17:12

it's not a next action, don't put it

17:14

on your list. Do yourself a favor and

17:17

don't put it on a list because then that's

17:19

how you start corrupting your next action list. That's

17:22

how they start to lose value. That's why

17:24

you may end up feeling overwhelmed by

17:26

them. That's why you may be feeling repelled by

17:28

them because you have a bunch of stuff that

17:30

doesn't belong there. But even at the

17:32

same time, you go, no, but it's

17:34

not a someday maybe. I'm not joking. Create a

17:36

list title, things I'm not committed to yet. And

17:40

just drop it there and see what happens on the next weekly

17:42

review. Yeah. Yeah.

17:45

Here's one for you, Ophana Maria. Is

17:48

your next action ever to get someone

17:50

else to do something? There's

17:56

a lot going on with that question. No.

17:59

Next. The action as well as

18:01

projects. you want to think of

18:03

anything and everything that it's. Somehow.

18:09

Under your control. That.

18:11

for you to get done yes the

18:13

main bulb, other people, etc etc but.

18:16

At the look, if it's high enough ourselves

18:18

to change ourselves and get things done by

18:20

yourself, What? You think it's gonna be

18:23

like for others? so no. I

18:25

would never have and to

18:27

get to get someone to

18:30

do something know I will

18:32

have waiting for definitely than

18:34

involve other people's right answers,

18:37

completions, decisions, But

18:39

I don't have an exception over

18:41

that says something. Next batch and

18:43

get John to A B C

18:45

know. What's underneath The ashes?

18:47

Ana Maria and I and I soon all of

18:50

you. With the people you work with and your

18:52

family's you have some kind of level of. Implicit.

18:55

Are explicit agreement that when you ask them

18:57

to do something, they agree that that's there's

18:59

to do So then you can put it

19:02

on your waiting for list and check in

19:04

with them regularly as it shows up on

19:06

your waiting for list and they're not doing

19:08

it yet and at that point you could

19:10

say to them. Are your

19:12

you haven't done this yet? What's your timing on

19:15

it? Do. You still. Treated.

19:17

As something you're committed to doing and

19:20

getting back to me about the best

19:22

going to come down to things like

19:24

what's your company culture and cuckoos allowed

19:26

to delegate to whom. That.

19:28

Was like I said, that question had a

19:30

lot underneath it. just. Has a lot but

19:32

yeah I think it was a yes. No questions

19:34

for my answer was no. Right away

19:37

with your quest. And

19:39

even to place in a see what you're

19:41

saying. I began a jaunty may see what

19:43

he's saying. You know the reason. My

19:45

We can we had been identified the next

19:47

taxes because the pride it wasn't on my

19:50

projects with ah so. I get.

19:52

I get what you're saying so I and

19:54

I can recall exactly your previous post plates

19:56

and I would have to scroll up. but

19:58

sure, I mean when you try. Buying Guide

20:00

And you know that declared by step

20:02

except number Two and masterwork. Slow and

20:05

it's it's meant. To. Be dispensed

20:07

where you actually do your mental

20:09

gymnastics or were you apply the

20:11

fundamental thought process And the fundamental

20:13

thought process is made up to

20:15

questions what's the desired outcome and

20:17

what's the next Function or inverse

20:19

be order. It doesn't matter what's

20:21

the next section. And. He did

20:23

actually did not complete. You.

20:26

Know the outcome an hour a master then.

20:29

Watch. My desired outcome. In other words,

20:31

what's the maltese? That outcome that has

20:33

committed to that will be. Done.

20:36

Within one year or a D

20:38

V D terms also known as

20:40

a project so clegg them when

20:42

you're clarifying, you just want a

20:44

half enough. Or. Slowed down

20:46

your Selby not so big you

20:48

identify both ends of the spectrum.

20:51

East needed. Meaning. If there's

20:53

a project me show you capture I'm sorry

20:55

you tie find organized that project on your

20:57

product list and then come up with the

21:00

very next section. Or if it's.

21:02

Only. A next that share our if you

21:04

started with the next section confirmed that there

21:06

was no project and if there is put

21:08

on your privacy as far as far as

21:10

fine so that indeed what you're. Referring

21:13

to on doesn't happen easy. You

21:15

are in the moment and somehow

21:17

something shows up in your world.

21:19

That it's it's it's. You

21:24

know an that you have now taken action

21:26

on but it was that part of Florida

21:28

find it was more part of doing work

21:30

as it appears as you get better and

21:32

better you will be training yourself and your

21:34

and your brain will be faster at catching

21:36

and is a oh that's one thing I

21:38

just did. Actually still has

21:40

more to it and there was a project that

21:43

him and have to add to my list that

21:45

it's not there yet so you could do it

21:47

right there right then. And. That

21:49

way you're safe for your weekly. Review.

21:53

Or you know, if if you were moving

21:55

too fast, that didn't happen. For whatever reason,

21:57

I still say when you do your week

21:59

to review you and you take the step

22:01

of reviewing the week prior. That.

22:04

May trigger and you may kind of remember that. Oh,

22:06

I did that. and I forgot to add that. Tried

22:08

it so. I look if he goes

22:10

one or two weeks. You. Know out there.

22:13

In. The atmosphere without you catching it. It's

22:15

way better than never. Passionate so you may

22:17

have a week or two delay. That's.

22:20

Fine, but I think you do, Just

22:22

keep on. Training. And training yourself. And.

22:24

I highly recommend that you

22:27

get in the habit of

22:29

putting any multistep action. Down.

22:31

As a project. With. An exception even

22:34

if you even is. When you it comes

22:36

to your mind you think will it's only

22:38

two steps can I get away with putting

22:40

boat as long as the next action or

22:42

just a next action But not. Really

22:44

adding that to my projects list? You.

22:48

Won't you won't believe me until you

22:50

experience it That if you treat every

22:52

multistep outcome as a project, have it

22:54

on your list, even if you're gonna

22:56

be finished with it. By. Lunchtime

22:58

today. Even if it's a very short

23:01

cycle project like that same day. I

23:03

put it on my projects list because

23:05

I can't tell you how much mental

23:07

release that gives me. I don't have

23:09

to have any part of it still

23:11

trapped in my mind. And so

23:13

before we move on, let's look at. What?

23:16

Is called and. And I'll give

23:18

you on another answer to that. I don't forget

23:20

it on my projects. That so. Who's

23:22

right or was wrong? I don't put

23:24

it on my projects that because want

23:27

a fish there's There are a couple

23:29

of criteria that I that I use

23:31

if it's a self evident and it's

23:33

something that. Once. A gentle

23:35

and again as johnny saying a lunchtime today

23:37

will be done. You know I'm reviewing a

23:39

set up guide that say and in my

23:41

process of reviewing a sort of guide there

23:44

was more than once that but still as

23:46

one of those that will be done within

23:48

two days time or within a couple of

23:50

hours or whatever. I don't need to put

23:52

it on a privacy cause. I'm

23:54

not going to lose look at that private

23:57

lives until my weekly review. and today's Wednesday

23:59

and mates with. You may be on

24:01

Saturday. so yes, unless I want to

24:03

experience Chip Wins and John, I'm not

24:05

saying that's what you're after. All

24:07

A if I am I'm on the cheek. I

24:10

am always after cheap wins. Then

24:13

I see no purpose for me. Big

24:15

Any doesn't give me the mental really

24:17

that you don't fly can understand why

24:19

he doing it. So please again that's

24:22

the value of having two of us

24:24

Share Could then you can go oh

24:26

that matches me or that matches me

24:28

better. I don't do it because again

24:30

I'm a at a war never even make it to

24:32

my we can really because what the time it gets

24:35

them I would you be a yet well what. Kind.

24:38

Of thing. I suspect on

24:40

Maria that you are better at estimating

24:42

time than I. Could. I

24:45

do. I add them to my

24:47

projects was partly because I've been

24:49

wrong so many times. Being optimistic

24:51

about this. Little. Project will

24:53

complete and I'll think own be done

24:56

by lunchtime and then two days later

24:58

it's not done and for more. things

25:00

have shown up that I didn't count

25:02

on that are related to it. So

25:04

on. For. Me it's a

25:06

relief. I can see how was Ana Maria

25:08

in the way she thinks and relates to the

25:10

it's it's It's just extra work so you

25:12

need to decide. What's. Going to

25:14

get you the mental release? Try both

25:16

ways. Yeah and when

25:19

in doubt put on your projects list

25:21

I think that is all the obviously

25:23

a safer approach and also sorry done

25:25

or non sending too much. Not

25:28

clear how degree doesn't. A

25:30

lot of businesses with what's your.dot

25:32

job has a component that is

25:34

very different from mine John It

25:36

has more of a. Help

25:38

desk approach to his hobby be you

25:40

know what to me like he's more

25:43

customer service. He could probably potentially get

25:45

much more interrupted that I on any

25:47

window of opportunity and his team not

25:50

responding to that would be not doing

25:52

his job because there isn't. A

25:54

high percentage of his job. That has to. Deal.

25:57

with that not mine i

25:59

gets lot to dictate my schedule,

26:01

what I do not do, who I answer

26:03

to, who I don't, because I have a

26:05

very different, very different

26:07

areas of focus and accountability from what John has.

26:10

So I think there's an element of that that

26:12

can also be playing in. Two things.

26:14

One is an aha here. If I

26:16

cannot visualize myself doing the next action

26:18

in the given context, is this a

26:20

hint that maybe this is not the

26:22

actual next action? Could

26:25

be. Could be, yeah. Your list

26:27

could be, ought to be attractive to

26:29

you. Yes. My

26:32

approach means I do generate a lot of long,

26:35

a long project list with a lot

26:37

of very small projects. And

26:40

then there's some very large projects on there as well. But

26:43

yeah, Stephen, I could have

26:46

many small related projects. All

26:48

right. Cheap wins.

26:50

Those. Oh, John, I think, I think

26:52

you're a balanced processor, right? Ah, yes.

26:55

We're not going to get there, but. I

26:57

have several things against me on this. I'm in the middle

26:59

of three children. So I was always trying to kind of

27:01

balance and reconcile between my older

27:04

sister, my younger brother.

27:06

I'm a Libra, which means I'm

27:09

on the scales and I don't make decisions

27:12

easily. And as Ana

27:14

Maria said, I'm a 50-50 perfectly balanced

27:17

mental processor. I'm half associative, half

27:19

sequential. So I see

27:21

too many possibilities. So I'm

27:23

not guys. I'm the opposite to John's. I'm

27:25

the little one. I get to always call my

27:28

shots. I'm sequential and I'm the boss

27:30

of me. So it's very different. Yeah.

27:32

All right.

27:34

Let's move on enough of us. So

27:36

back to being interactive. John, or, or

27:39

you want me to chew it up? Go

27:42

ahead. All right. So here's

27:44

what we're going to do. We're going to have you

27:46

tell us, um, if this,

27:48

if this is a project or a next section, you

27:50

can do that by typing on the chat box. So

27:53

rebuild the website. Is that project or an

27:55

exception? We got a bunch of pros on

27:57

the line here. Okay. So Yeah.

28:00

You. Got the correct answer and again.

28:04

I. Can go someplace else? Could we can

28:06

go to eat? depends but less litter the

28:08

project. What will the next one? Email.

28:11

Jag we going web developers is at

28:13

Friday's earnest action. I call.

28:15

What about the next one? Take.

28:17

Trip to Amalfi coast. But.

28:19

What have you? have? A private jet? He have

28:21

a house and them off the coast. And. The just

28:23

have all the money and time in your life. And

28:26

u cel mai going to them as we could. Have

28:29

Maybe maybe it's an expert on wifi

28:31

thing, but but. From a lot in Los

28:33

Angeles, it's supposed to be a project Use.

28:35

The same barry I'll defend our your

28:37

path. I mean, I don't know,

28:40

I'm on. We're just. Kind. Of testing.

28:42

You're right because I'm. For.

28:44

Most of us is John says this is

28:46

bizarre example of multistep Malcolm no Questions or

28:48

next the ones on. When. You passport.

28:51

Yes, Everything can be. It depends. You're right. He

28:54

up. We've got a lot of international travellers here

28:56

who have been through the. Next

28:58

Action Project. So

29:00

yeah we do. You are technically I

29:02

would. You could be an exception to

29:04

ride, use shots to the embassy somehow

29:06

you know or whatever you read you

29:08

your passwords requires no a boy man

29:10

is one of those places wine or

29:12

five people lab and there's always an

29:14

officer available to renew your passport and

29:16

you gold a renewed the it's you

29:18

and you done but I know what

29:20

country in the world does that. Typically

29:22

will be a product. Just because

29:24

you may have to schedule an appointment, you may have to

29:27

go to the point it and then you may have to

29:29

wait for the possible to. Return. To you

29:31

soon. There's a photo. Correct.

29:35

prior to getting there. So there's that

29:37

involves whether we like it or not.

29:39

Or next one. Get.

29:42

Clarity on buying a new laptop. Yeah

29:44

John, your good. Is that

29:46

a project or an expansion? Or

29:48

Nicholson Neither. What?

29:51

Would you say to call it is then he

29:53

could be a someday Maybe erotic? Why not. You

29:55

could be a somebody. On

29:57

be fine, get clarity as. An

30:00

understanding more you know, more like you're

30:02

more like in the mood are own

30:05

mode of researching about you don't know

30:07

yet if you're going to get the

30:09

new laptop am until you get more

30:12

information. So. That's what get clarity

30:14

mean. But. The

30:17

point why we added this one here and

30:19

we made her privacy because they're I'm sure

30:21

there are many teach wages in your life

30:24

where you don't have the clarity yet. To.

30:26

Make a decision on whether do I get

30:28

the laptop or not. Do I buy the

30:30

land or not the we move countries are

30:32

not be like change, Jobs are not lie,

30:35

get pregnant or not. There so many things

30:37

out there that you may still be like

30:39

I don't know so what do you need?

30:41

I need to get clear on. And.

30:43

Is the. Outcome of getting

30:45

clear on one, but it's mostly said. Yes,

30:48

Because I may want to talk to my

30:50

girlfriend's I want may one understand better what's

30:52

involved It's use get pregnant which on that

30:54

looking at wanting to get pregnant. And

30:57

way beyond that time. But in any event,

30:59

you know I just wanted to my girlfriend's

31:01

I may want to look into different doctors.

31:03

I mean, there's a whole process. Of

31:06

action. To. Getting to be alcorn of

31:08

getting clear that than. Qualifies.

31:11

Such as a project or that outcome.

31:13

So. This. Is a great

31:15

hold for any and all of you who are

31:17

out there in that place where I don't know,

31:19

I just need to get clear. And.

31:21

Then ask yourself. In. Order to

31:23

get clear. Do I need more than one actual

31:26

step in? If the answer is yes, then he

31:28

qualifies as different. As

31:30

a reminder of of something the David

31:32

said years ago that was. Helpful

31:34

to me when somebody in a seminar

31:36

was asking him. So. I

31:39

have my it and so on. a relationship with

31:41

someone in my family. It's not. Ideal

31:43

at the moment and I don't know how to

31:45

call it a project and. David's.

31:48

Answer was something along the line of

31:50

just define it as get risk Resolution

31:52

on My relationship with family members are

31:54

so something like get resolution on can

31:57

be a project is even if you

31:59

don't yet know what the resolution is,

32:01

you're just putting a stake in the

32:03

ground to say. I know that eventually

32:05

I want to have resolution on this

32:08

or I want to have clarity on

32:10

this and just. Putting. At stake

32:12

in the ground can help you start to see more.

32:16

Actions that would result in getting

32:18

clarity or getting resolution. Yet

32:21

so you can always on

32:23

replace get clarity on with

32:26

look into. Research

32:28

on. The get

32:30

resolution where you don't win whatever at

32:33

it's different even to what you say

32:35

as think to be fine because to

32:37

meet things to define have been those

32:39

that have not been through they clarified

32:42

sap yeah. This is

32:44

what goes through the clarifies that. Equal.

32:47

What you've already thought about.

32:50

And your think you're the result of

32:52

your think it could we could will

32:54

be. I just need to get clear.

32:56

that's very different than saying I need

32:58

to be find it. Is not

33:01

Made is just semantics. The there is

33:03

a subtle difference in what we're saying.

33:06

There's so much out there. That.

33:08

It's probably creating. A

33:12

you know unnecessary noise in your i'm

33:14

in your ambient environmentally that each side

33:17

of yourself because this is just a

33:19

matter of calling it a project even

33:21

though is getting clear on something or

33:24

getting clarity about. His interest as

33:26

here you may want to start. You're. Playing around

33:28

with that. He. Offers a

33:30

question What if I don't know whether it takes

33:32

more than one step or added as an ex

33:34

I would just added as and next action and

33:36

when a complete that say. To.

33:38

Death achieve their with a more exactly

33:41

it'll It'll tell you when you completed

33:43

whether there's more to do to get

33:45

to the result you wanted.