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The
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Bhagavad Gita is a book of mankind's
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collected experience of, and answers to,
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life's most basic questions. Who
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I am? From where do I come? What
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is my purpose and destiny? And most practically,
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how do I find happiness? These
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podcasts originate in the lectures of Neel
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Bhatt, a disciple of Swami Chinmayananda.
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They are presented here in 20 to 30 minute
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segments, each covering three of the Gita's
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701 verses. Welcome
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to Gita Wisdom for Daily Living. We
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have been discussing
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Chapter 8, Akshara
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Brahma Yoga, Yoga of Imperishable
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Brahman.
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And so far, we have seen
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in this chapter that Bhagavan
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defined the reality in
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the beginning.
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He made the statement that
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only Brahman exists as
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the real reality and
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all other realities are superimposed
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on that reality. We have seen
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the Akshara Brahma Paramama. That
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Brahman is imperishable one. All
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other things which I'm experiencing
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are nothing but the
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manifestations of the Brahman. The
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world of things and beings which I see
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outside is nothing but
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the Prakriti, which is the manifestation
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of the same Brahman. The world
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of ideas and
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awareness which I have is the knower.
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The knower is also nothing but the Brahman.
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And the experiencer in me
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is the Adi Yajna, but none
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other than the Brahman. So
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the Brahman is in all
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aspects of my
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world, in my reality, in my
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awareness. The government clarified
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that. And Arjuna also asked,
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how one can know you
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in the time of the
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departure? Prayana Kala. Departing
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from what is something which
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we had been discussing about?
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The one departure we have determined
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this day, when the soul is
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departing from this body. In
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other words, this body is disassociated
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from the I-ness that I have right
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now. My I-ness is very firm
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right now that I am this body. I
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am in a constant state of Samadhi that I
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am this body, because there
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is no doubt in my mind. I
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never have to think about it. I have to think
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about everything else, but
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never think about who I am.
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I am firmly identified with
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this body. So that is one
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identification. You
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know, I depart from this identification. Another
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I disassociate myself from this identification
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is one departure, one type
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of departure.
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Then there is another identification
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which I have is with my mind,
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and the another one is with my intellect.
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So this identification of the
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mind and the intellect
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is as strong as my
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identification with this body. So
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one can say, that is the Arjuna
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asking question, what happens at
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the time of this departure?
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From the one identification
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or the complete departure from all
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the identifications which I have right
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now. So we have been discussing
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that process.
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Bhagawan answered the question, Bhagawan
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very succinctly and clearly
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said that the time of departure,
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whoever thinks about Me,
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he will come to Me.
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There is no doubt. Hear Me,
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Bhagawan, when He uses first person
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singular, He is referring to
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the reality He explained, that only
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Brahman exists,
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that one reality is imperishable,
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or the fundamental reality which is inexplicable,
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because we cannot find any source. For
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everything else in this world, I can
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find a source, where it came from. Where
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My body came from is very easy
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to find. All the food
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which I have eaten from My birth till
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this morning breakfast, where
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My mind came, where the source,
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all the things I thought about and I experienced
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in My intellect is nothing but the memory
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of all the experiences that I have. So
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we find the source for My
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identification right now. But
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where does this feeling I
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come from
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is not really easy
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to understand. That's why it's
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inexplicable. Bhagawan
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said whoever
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thinks about whatever in
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the time of departure, that's
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the state of existence that
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person will get. It's
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something similar to when I take
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a journey from here to India
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or here to New York and
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I go to the airport. There are so many
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destinations are there. There are so many flights,
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so many gates, so many destinations
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available.
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But I had been preparing for one destination
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which is important to me. I
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had been planning for it. I had
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been thinking. about it, I
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prepared myself, I got
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appropriate qualifications
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in terms of passport, visa,
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whatever is equal, identification,
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even a driver's license if I am
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travelling locally. But all that
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I have prepared before the departure,
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not at the time of departure. At the time of departure
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I don't think about where I am going to go, what
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I need, it is all
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planned before. So
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whatever you plan for, Bhagawan
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said, that journey you shall take.
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So there is no real doubt about it. If you
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plan for the final destination
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of liberating yourself from
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all these embodiments, see
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this is Muran Muktva Kalevaram,
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Kalevaram is embodiment,
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this identification that I have.
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Whatever identification I drop,
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Bhagawan said, therefore
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keep the highest goal in mind all
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the time.
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Tasmat Sarvesu Kale Su Maamana
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Smara. Therefore,
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if your destination, if your
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goal is to find the unlimited
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happiness, which we have talked about, the
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only goal
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we have in our
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lives is to achieve
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that unbroken happiness. Liberation
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from all my limitations, Bhagawan
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said, if you keep that in mind all
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the time,
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then you shall achieve that goal. But
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if your other goals and
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then put efforts for those goals,
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then we will achieve those goals.
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It is that simple.
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So Bhagawan then gives
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us the instructions.
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So in last verse, verse 11, what is the destination which
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you are seeking?
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Unknowingly.
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Unknowingly, I'm seeking unbroken happiness.
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Even though my experience in my
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life tells me
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that there is no permanent
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happiness. I get happy with something,
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but that doesn't last forever.
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If I get a lottery, I will
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be elated. But
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looking at the history of all the people who won
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lottery, they are not the happiest people
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on this planet because
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their joy also lasted only for
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a limited period of time. Then
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they moved on to doing what they were doing before
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and probably wasted
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that jackpot. So Bhagavan
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said, therefore, you should prepare
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yourself for the final destination.
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Understand what your destination is and
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then prepare for it. So
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Bhagavan said, I will tell you where can
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you find that unlimited,
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unbroken happiness? All
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these people,
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the people who know Vedas
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and they talk about that state and
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the people who have freed
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themselves from all the attachments, they
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enter that state. And
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yet the Chanto Brahmacharya Charantan
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with that desire, people
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live life of moderation in Brahmacharya.
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He said, I'll tell you that destination.
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All these wise people in the past
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have figured out where the destination
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is, where there is a complete
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freedom. There is no
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limitation at that state
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of existence. But I will tell you
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how to get there. So
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then he said, yoga
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dharana. He laid out
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the conditions, laid
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out the preparation, laid
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out what is required to reach
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that destination. So
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first is Sarvadvara nisam yam yam,
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closing all the gates.
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No impressions coming from outside
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and
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no thoughts going out of
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the world of objects. So Swami
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explains here that here is
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the technique of meditation
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which we have learned through
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many many books from Patanthali,
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Yoga Sutra, from all
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the Vedas and Upani Sats. And
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it says that you have to shut Sampatthi.
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To achieve that liberation you have
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to have six types of
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qualification. Samadama,
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Uparamath, Tithiksa, Samadha,
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Mummukshatram. All those sixfold
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qualifications which are described
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in our scriptures.
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The first one is Dhamma. Dhamma is
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a physical control. Sarvadvara
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nisam yam yam.
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Controlling all the senses is
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the Dhamma. Manohrudhe
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nirudhyajah and
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resting mind in the heart
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which is at the core of your being,
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resting mind in
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the intellect. Senses are not
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functioning. The mind has really nothing to do.
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That mind which has nothing to do, you have
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to focus on the intellect
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with all the knowledge that are gained
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in the ideas which I have determined are
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true. The destination
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that I have determined is the real destination.
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We want to rest your mind there. Murthni
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adhaya atmanihi pranam
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asthitha yogadhara na.
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Interesting your prana
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in the head concentrate
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on that destination. This seems really
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impossible for me
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to do at the time of death.
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At the time of death,
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it is not possible for me to think
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about my senses, think about my mind,
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think about my pranas.
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So it must be something other
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than that living the physical
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body. As you say, this embodiment
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is of three types. We have three
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types of bodies, Thula Sarira,
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Sukshma Sarira and
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the causal body. So gross,
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subtle and causal. All these three
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bodies when I leave at
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that prana kalay, only
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I can reach the final destination.
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So Bhagawan said, Om Ithi Ek
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Aksaram Brahma Vyaharan Mam
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Anus Maran.
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One who is now prepared,
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he has stopped all
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the perceptions and sensations
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coming from outside, he has
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focused himself into
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that one goal,
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one destination that
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I want to achieve
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and that destination is
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Om Ithi Ek Aksaram
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Brahma. That's my destination.
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That Brahma is my destination.
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But I need something to
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hold on to, to
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take this journey. So typically
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in our normal day to day puja,
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we have Murthy
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or any kind of a image
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of God.
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But those images can be distracting
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in that level of meditation
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when I want to
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cross beyond this identification
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with the body, mind and internet.
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Therefore Bhagawan said,
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Om Ithi Ek Aksaram Brahma Vyaharan
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uttering that sound symbol
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of God. God. All
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of our Vedas and
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Upanishads
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have identified Om as
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the sound symbol of God.
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Because in the olden days the speech,
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the only way the knowledge was transferred.
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So the sound which identifies,
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signifies the all-pervading
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entity who wants to be should be focusing
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on.
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They say uttering that one
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syllable Om.
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There are many many Upanishads
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that are devoted to Om, but
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particularly Mandukya Upanishads. If the
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briefest Upanishad is only 12 verses,
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then it basically
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describes Om. So
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the Om
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is sound symbol
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accepted by all Vedas
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and all Upanishads,
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as Bhagawan said, I will tell you yet
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Aksaram Veda Vido Vadanti. I'll
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tell you that one syllable Om
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which represent imperishable
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nature of this reality. So
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Aksara
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means imperishable,
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Aksara also means a letter. So
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in our vernacular language, the
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letter is also called Aksara. The
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letter is the one syllable Om uttering
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which, Ya prayati tejan
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deha, one who departs
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from the identification with
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this body. As we have discussed, this
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body can be the physical body,
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the subtle body
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or the causal body. That
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which causes me to
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take birth again and again. Ya
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prayati tejan sa yadhi paramam
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gadhi. He achieves the final destination
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of liberating from all
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limitations. Om
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stands for the supreme reality,
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what was,
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what is
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and what shall be.
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Straight from Ye
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only 12 verses all devoted
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to defining all.
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So,
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not only defines
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at the macro level
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past, present and future, but also
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at micro level my past, my
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present and my future, it
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represents the three states in
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which I exist. My
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dream, deep sleep and
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waking. The state which
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is permanent is none
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of these three, but beyond
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these three
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which is called turya in
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Mando Kya Upanishad, the fourth state.
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And therefore, it is not the uttering
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of the Aum, but the silence
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between these two utterings
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signifies the imperishable
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nature
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and transcendental nature of
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I, the Supreme Self.
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I as my own being
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at this individual level, but
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one already discussed Adhyatma, the same
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reality
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functioning through you, conditioned by
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you is called Adhyatma, your
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swabhava, your nature. At
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the Supreme level is called Paramatma.
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While
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discussing all this, it seems so
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difficult that we
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will never reach there. It
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is like if first grade student
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who had been telling his
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parents, I want to be a doctor, and
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then when he goes to first grade and starts learning
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and then somebody explains to him
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what you have to do to become a doctor
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and he says, this looks very unachievable.
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But then somebody tells you, you take one step
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at a time and constantly think
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about what you want to become and
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you shall become that person
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continuously and slowly. Slowly, march
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towards your journey, you will
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achieve your destination. Ananya
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Chaita ha, not thinking about
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anything else, but the destination,
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that goal. Satatam,
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constantly, Yomams
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Marathi Nithya Saha, one
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who remembers that goal,
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constantly, Nithya Saha,
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all the time. So Nithya Saha is
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defined as daily, but
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it is throughout your lifetime.
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If you have that goal, from
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the beginning of your understanding what you want
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to achieve, till you
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achieve that goal and never leave that goal,
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Tasyaham Sulabhapa Patha for
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such a person, for such a seeker,
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it's very easy for him to achieve
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me, for her to achieve me.
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Nithya, for Nithya
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Yuktasi Yogi Naha, the
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one who has prepared himself by
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this daily practice, keeping
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that as a back of his mind that this is
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the goal of my life, for
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him Bhagawan said it is easy.
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Mam Upetya Poonar Janma,
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Dukh Alayam Asasvatam,
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Nga Apna Vadim Mahat Manaha,
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Sansidim Para Mam Gatha.
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Bhagawan said the reward of that
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is, you do not have
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to come back to Mam Upetya having
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reached that state of my
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being, the
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state of the Supreme Being,
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the state of that imperishable nature.
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As we have discussed, the fundamental
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nature of reality is imperishable.
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Fundamental nature of my own
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self is imperishable.
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But right now I am not focused on my
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imperishableness, I am focused
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on everything that perishes in my life.
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I am worried about my body, I am worried
19:57
about my mind, my intellect, and what is it?
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worried about what I have achieved, what I
20:02
have accumulated. If
20:04
I can focus on the
20:06
imperisableness of myself,
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Bhagawan said,
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mam upetya, having reached
20:14
that state, punar janmaha
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na apnoanti. He does not
20:20
have to come back to suffer
20:23
through this life
20:25
again. Punar janmaha is taking
20:28
a state of limitedness. So
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if I have identified her goal,
20:34
and if I don't have any other smaller
20:36
goals, enjoying that state,
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but then I want to come back and have something
20:41
else to do,
20:42
then I will have to go through the pains
20:45
of that level of achievement
20:48
and then all the
20:49
trials and tribulations which come with it. So,
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punar janmaha dukkhaalayam asaswadam.
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Anything that is impermanent
20:58
has sorrows and failures attached
21:00
to it, Bhagawan said. So therefore that janmaha,
21:03
if you take birth as something or
21:05
someone,
21:06
there will always be sorrows and
21:09
unhappiness. But if you don't
21:11
identify as something as
21:14
I, and just I as I, I
21:17
as myself,
21:18
then there is no sorrows or unhappiness.
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Na apnoanti mahatmana
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sansidhim paramam gatah. Those
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mahatma, those great souls
21:29
who figured out the final goal and
21:32
worked towards that daily,
21:36
all the time, all throughout, keeping
21:39
that in the back of their mind that this
21:41
is the goal of my life, then did everything
21:44
like other people. They did everything
21:46
the life requires you to do,
21:48
but the goal was fixed
21:50
and for them, once they achieve
21:53
this state,
21:54
they don't have to then go back to
21:57
those pitiful achievements which
21:59
they were. engaged in before. Once
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I have achieved that degree and
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got the certification as being
22:07
a doctor, you don't go back to high school
22:09
again. You don't go back to primary
22:12
school again.
22:13
It's only when I get confused then I
22:16
do something which is not appropriate.
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So Bhagawan gives a clear indication
22:21
that if you keep this as your goal,
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it is not too difficult to achieve. It
22:26
is available to all. It's an equal opportunity
22:29
situation. Everyone can achieve
22:31
this. We'll stop
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right here. If you find this
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Thank you. Shanti
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Hari Om
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Sri Guru Vyodhana Maha
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Hari Om
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