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The Bhagava

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Gita is a book of mankind's

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collected experience of and answers to

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life's most basic questions. Who

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I am? From where do I come?

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What is my purpose and destiny? And

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most practically, how do I find happiness?

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These podcasts originate in the lectures of

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Neel Bhatt, a disciple of Swami Chinmayananda.

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They are presented here in 20-30 minute

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segments, each covering

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three of the Gita's 701 verses.

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Welcome to Gita Wisdom for daily

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living. So we have been discussing

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Chapter 9, Raja Vidya, Raja

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Guha Yoga, Yoga

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of royal knowledge

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and royal secret, supreme

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knowledge and supreme secret.

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Swami Prabhavananda calls it

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Yoga of Mysticism. Because

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we are learning about the nature

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of the supreme, who I am

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is a secret. Even though

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I know I exist, I

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do not know what is the nature of my

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being. I consider this

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body to be me, my mind to

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be me, the intellect to be me.

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But when I ask question who I

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am, it is very difficult to answer.

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That is a secret. And this knowledge

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which reveals that secret is the royal

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knowledge. And Bhagavan,

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so far has taught us in this chapter,

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I, the

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supreme reality, the

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truth, the Sat, is

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all-pervading. providing amni present

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in my unmanifest form. But

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you do see me in my manifest form

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and all the things and beings

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which are manifested, I

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am not in them, but they are in me.

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But in reality they are also not in me. So

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we have basically, we have come to

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that conundrum about where

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is Bhagawan and what is my relationship. So

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we have discussed that this chapter is about

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the relationship of Jiva,

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Jagat and Paramatma. Jiva

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is I, the individual, I see

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the world outside, the world of

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plurality, the world of things and

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beings and I have really determined

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my relationship to that world as I am

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island by myself and the world is out

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there, it is something else. I have

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to react with it, I have to react with it, I have

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to deal with it. So that

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is the dualistic relationship. I

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and the world are two different

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entities. When it comes

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to Bhagawan, we don't even know what my

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relationship is. But we

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have inkling that he exists as

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the creator of

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both the Jagat and

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I, the Jiva. And Bhagawan explained

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in that statement which we just discussed

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that this is a relationless relationship.

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He says I am not in this

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Jagat, but the

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Jagat is in me. We have used

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the metaphor or analogy of

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snake and rope. Snake cannot

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exist without the rope. The rope

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is the reality, snake is the

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illusion which I have created out

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of my ignorance. From

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Rope's perspective it was never in the snake,

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but snake is in the rope. But

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in reality the snake is also not in the rope.

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In tropes, original nature,

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there is no snake in it. Snake

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is superimposed by my ignorance. So

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the relationship of this Jagat, Jiva.

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and Paramatma is like that

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of a snake in a rope. Paramatma

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remaining pristine and supreme, he

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produces this Jagat out of his

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maya. Therefore, he is

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called mayapati. Supreme

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plus maya is equal to

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Ishwara. Ishwara is

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the creator of this Jagat.

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Bhagawan said, under my

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supervision maya adyakshina prakruthim

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suyate chara acharo. Under

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my supervision, under my

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watchful eye, prakruthim suyate chara

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sends out all that is

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moving and one moving. So

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I am the producer of

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this Jagat, but

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through my maya. The

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maya is the material cause,

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Ishwara is the efficient cause. All

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that I see is in effect. The

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cause is Ishwara. The

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cause is maya. Maya

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provides the material just

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like my ignorance provided the material for the

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snake. And I saw the snake in

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a rope. My

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consciousness was the efficient cause

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to see the snake, but

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my ignorance provided the material to create

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the snake. Same

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way Bhagawan said, I,

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the Supreme Being, is the

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efficient cause of the Ishwara. Maya

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provides the material cause to

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produce this Jagat, this

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world of plurality. And

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then he proceeded to tell us

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why people do not recognize his

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presence while

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we are reacting this way. People

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fail to recognize my presence

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when I am shrouded in

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a human form or any animal

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form or any plant form. I

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do not see the divinity. the

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presence of the supreme reality in it.

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When I interact with people, I see

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the people, but I don't see the supreme

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functioning through that person. When

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I see the wave, I see the wave,

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but I don't see the ocean manifesting

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through that wave.

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And that's where we

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fail to act in the right manner. So

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the question is

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asked universally. Why

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Bhagawan being so divine

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and so compassionate, all

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loving can

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allow evil to happen in this

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world. Now, because of

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the Ukraine war, the question is

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more at the forefront of everything.

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Why this is happening? Why

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innocent people are dying? Why

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this war? Why people act in this

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manner? We

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continue to say there is no answer

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to it. Well, there is answer. Bhagawan

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answered that question in verse number 12.

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Bhagawan very clearly answered why

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there is evil in this world. In

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11 he said, people fail to see

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the divinity in other people.

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I fail to see that

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all beings have the same

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reality manifesting through them. So

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I make them object. Any

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person infecting harm to the other

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person is to dehumanize

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first. We can only

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marginalize people when we don't consider

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them to be as good

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or as human as we are. So this

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institution of slavery or any

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kind of oppression or

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tyranny can only happen

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when one group of people see the

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other group of people is

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not equal to them, dehumanize

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them. We are divine. We are

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the chosen people. The others are not. Bhagawan

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say, moga asa, moga karmana.

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If you fail to see the divinity in

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other things in beings, it

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gives him the wrong idea, the

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false idea. That

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way we can inflict that pain

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on the other person. When

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the soldier is on the front line, he doesn't see

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the other side. If the soldier is a human being,

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he sees just nothing but an enemy, he has to

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conquer. He objectifies that

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person and therefore he

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can act in that manner. That

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he can kill that person without any remorse.

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Same thing happens to the criminals, the same thing

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happens to the dictators, the

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same thing happens to the people who

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act in an inappropriate manner in this

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world. So by one saying, that

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is the reason because they fail

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to recognize my presence in all

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things and beings with

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their own hopes, their own

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actions, they act like devil.

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Their actions become demonic

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and evil. So

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the evil only happens when

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people fail to recognize

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the same divinity in other people.

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So everyone answers that question. Evil

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exists because of the ignorance of

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people about the divinity's

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omnipresence in all things and

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beings. In contrast to

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that, the Mahatma, the great

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people, great souls

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who recognized the

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divinity in others, they constantly

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think about me because

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they realize nothing exists other than

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that divinity. All names and

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forms are his. Everything

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I see is nothing but his presence and

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therefore they act in a very different manner. They

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constantly remember me. So

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then we have seen the various ways people

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worship the Lord. People

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constantly thinking about the Lord, whatever

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they do, they realize. And

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then there is And

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then there are others. who

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by that spiritual knowledge, having

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that knowledge, they

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realize the unity in

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diversity. And therefore,

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they cannot act in

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a wrong way. This is

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the reason for acting

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in a right way. And

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the other one was ignorance was the reason

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for them to act in an

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evil way. And then Bhagawan

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continues and says, I am in

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everything that you see, not just

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being. Don't misunderstand that I am

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only deciding in the human beings

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or sentient beings. Everything

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that you do is nothing but me

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alone. There is no other

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existence rather than

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my own existence. So

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Bhagawan continued and said, I

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am everything that makes Yajna

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possible. The one who is

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performing Yajna, the sacred fire,

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which is there to receive

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the oblation, the oblation itself.

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Every activity that I perform, all

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that requires for that activity, the actor,

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the field of action and

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the instrument of action is nothing Bhagawan

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said but me. As

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we discussed last time, it is like an

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ice culture. Everything in the ice culture is

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nothing but ice only. Bhagawan

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has explained that these

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are the various ways

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people can recognize my

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presence. Tapami aham varsam

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nigru nami utsujamicha

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amrutam ca evamrutya hacha sat

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asacham arjuna So

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using everything that is sentient, moving

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and unmoving is me. Everything

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that creates any activity is

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also me. Now Bhagawan

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says, all the phenomenal forces are

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also me. Tapami aham. As

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Sun, I hate this

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world. We

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know that we all came from Big

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Bang, the world was not there, the universe

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was not there, nothing but

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singularity, it exploded into

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Big Bang, then

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galaxies were formed, then stars were formed,

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the planets were formed, then

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comes Earth, then life

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ended with my existence. So

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I can trace my existence all the

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way down to the

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Big Bang, but here Bhagawan said, if

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you personify the Sun as

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me, then I hate

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this world. Tapam yaham, without

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that heat we all will die of

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earth. There is no energy on this

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planet other than solar energy. Every

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other energy we use is nothing but

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two steps that remove solar energy. So

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Bhagawan said, tapam yaham, I hate this

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world, give life to this world. varsam

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nigruhana me utrijamicha, also

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I withhold and send

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rain. So the phenomena of

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heat and rain which is very

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common to us, Bhagawan said that

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nothing other than my own presence,

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nothing other than my own self.

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Amrutham ca eva bhutivachar, I am

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the mortality, also the death.

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So the two realities I know in

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my life. My life

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as I exist and

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death, as somebody said, death

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and taxes are the two sure things

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in life. So death

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is a reality, so

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is my life. When I exist,

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Bhagawan said, Amrutham, that which remains

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after I die is immortality.

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Something that does not change even

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at my death is immortality. Bhagawan

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said, I am that, but I am also

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that which dies. That which

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dies is my body. Bhagawan said, that's

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also me. That which

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I see as existence

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is also me, that

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which I see as non-existence is also me.

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Sat a sat

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chaham arjuna ha. Arjuna I

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am Sat the truth that ever

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existing entity. Sat is something which

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exists in all three periods of

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time, asked, present

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and future. Or

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you can say, Sat is

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that existence which exists during

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my sleeping, dreaming and

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waking state. That

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which remains constant in all throughout

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this day is Sat. A

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sat is that continuous to change. I

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as a waker become dreamer, and

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then I as a dreamer become

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sleeper. And life continues. But

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that changing entity by once

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is also me, and

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the unchanging entity is also

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me. Sat is me, a

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sat is me. Sat

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is the cause for a

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sat effect. A sat is

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that which changes. That which has temporary

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existence is asa. That which

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exists temporarily is also me.

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A sat is the cause for

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this jagat, is also me. This

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jagat is temporary, it continues

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to change. It does not exist

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in the same manner in two different

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times. One of the

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Greek philosophers says, you can step into the

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same river twice. Because

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as soon as you step in the river,

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the water flows away. Next time you step

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into it, there is different water. This

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jagat is constantly changing. Therefore

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it is asa, metya. And

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the next two verses change the

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meter. Most of the Bhagavad

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Gita is an Anustubh chanda meter. And

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several verses, Anustubh chanda, this

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meter, which is longer meter.

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The reason may be very obvious. that

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Bhagavan wants to get some attention, he

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uses a different meter, or

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he wants to say something, pack

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more words into that sloka. Therefore,

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he uses a meter which packs more words into

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it. One way or the other, it gets our

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attention. So the

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next two verses, Bhagavan describes

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that, there is one way

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we have discussed that this Maharmas worship

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me, knowing fully

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well that this

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reality which we call

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Supreme Being, Ishwara, Brahman is

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one and the same, pervades

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everything. However,

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there are people who worship

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me knowing that I am

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Almighty and can fulfill

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their desires. He

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says that is perfectly okay. So

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literal translation is, the Norse

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of the three

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Vedas, you have to continue to

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make note that Bhagavan

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Vaidhvara is only referring

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to three Vedas or four Vedas.

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But those who are the Norse of the

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three Vedas, all these rituals

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to achieve highest standard

17:28

of living is

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in three Vedas. Although the rituals,

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you want this, you have to

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perform this, you want to achieve

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Swargalok. Swargalok used to

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be in Vedic period is the

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highest destination. This is

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what you are trying to achieve, Swargalok. From

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this Muthiloga, three Vedas, those who

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know these three Vedas, they

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know exactly the instructions

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and injunctions in three Vedas, Somapaha,

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who have taken the Somapaha.

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In other words, they have concluded all those

18:02

rituals and taken the prasad in the end.

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This Sama is the prasad. Puta

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Papa, they are purified

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of this scene. So they

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are good people working as

18:14

per the injunctions of this astral.

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They have performed their actions. They

18:21

are purified of this scene. Yajnahe,

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Istvas, Vargatim, Parsayanti, they

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are worshipping Me through

18:29

Yajna to achieve Swarga. Swarga

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is their goal. Te

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punyam asad di surendra lokam

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asnanti divyant divyadeva bhogan

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achieving the divine loka

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of Indra. They enjoy

18:46

the divine pleasures. So

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all successful people in this

18:52

world, they fall in

18:54

that category. They have done everything

18:56

which is right. They have made all

18:58

the efforts. They have paid

19:01

their dues. They

19:04

had a goal in mind, this is what I want

19:06

to achieve. And they achieved it. And

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they are enjoying the fruits

19:11

of their actions. People

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like Bill Gates or

19:16

Elon Musk or Jeff

19:18

Bezos, which we can identify with

19:20

them. Every successful person can

19:23

vouch for it that that's how he

19:25

went to that Indra lok, which he

19:27

considered as his success by

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working hard, following the rules,

19:32

completing all the tasks, achieving

19:34

what he wanted to achieve and he achieved that. But

19:38

then Bhagawan said, then what? So

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the next verse says, te

19:43

tum bhaktva swargalokam vishalam

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They are enjoying the

19:49

vast pleasures of

19:51

the swargalokam. As I

19:53

said, the goal was to achieve swargalokam. I

19:56

paid my dues. I did exactly

19:58

what's supposed to be done. Now I achieved

20:01

it. I am a successful person. Now

20:04

I am enjoying the fruits of

20:06

my success. Shineh

20:09

puni marsilokam vishanti. When

20:13

the punias are exhausted, the

20:16

efforts which I put in are

20:19

both fruits. But once

20:21

I get the fruits of my

20:23

actions, they are nullified. I

20:25

did something, I got paid. The account

20:28

is equal. When

20:30

that balance is exhausted

20:33

of my punya, of my actions,

20:36

marsilokam vishanti, I have to start all

20:38

over again. Just

20:40

think about it. All the successful

20:42

people who build their

20:44

empires, what will happen when

20:47

they die? They won't be able to take

20:49

anything with them. Bill Gates when he dies,

20:51

Jeff Bezos. So we know about

20:54

Bill Gates in Ilan Musk and Jeff Bezos

20:56

because we see them. What happened to Ford,

20:59

Rockefeller and Gettys of the

21:01

world? Could

21:03

they take anything with them? They are in their local

21:05

here. The Swargalokas are still here.

21:08

Their estates are there, their foundations are

21:10

there. Minas Kazin works

21:13

for the Rockefeller Foundation. He was

21:15

in CNN. Now they are helping

21:17

to change the world from fossil

21:19

fuel to renewable

21:21

energy. But the Rockefeller

21:23

who created the wealth, where is he? He

21:26

is not there to enjoy the wealth anymore.

21:30

Srinay puny marsilokam

21:32

vishanti, he goes to

21:34

the world of death. Evam

21:38

thrayedhiram anuprapana gata

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gatam kam kamalabhante.

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Those who follow the path

21:46

of just good actions. They

21:51

achieve what they want to achieve, but

21:54

they fall into the

21:56

path of coming and going.

22:00

hard for 50 weeks and take

22:02

to his vacation, enjoy

22:04

the vacation, come back and start work for

22:07

another 50 weeks. Same

22:09

way, all these people including

22:12

all of us who work very hard in our

22:15

life to be successful, we enjoy

22:17

that in the time

22:19

of death, that balance will be zero.

22:21

In the next life, we start all

22:24

over again from kg to primary

22:26

school to secondary school and all

22:28

over again. So Bhagavan said,

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Teetham Bhaktva, Swargalokam, Vishalam,

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Kshinaipune, Marthilokam Visanthi.

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This is the result of just

22:39

doing good and

22:41

not thinking about your own self,

22:45

who I am and why I am working

22:47

so hard, what I am trying to achieve.

22:49

But what is doing good is

22:51

not good enough. It is something you

22:54

have to think about why I am doing good.

22:56

We will stop right here. Satyana

23:27

Sarve Santu

23:30

Niramaya Sarve

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Bhadrani Pashyantu

23:36

Maakaschidukkha Bhagavai

23:39

Om Shanti

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He Shanti

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He Shanti He Harihi

23:55

Om Shri Gurbi

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Yona Maha Hare-Yoganda