This week on the Give 'em Liam podcast...

First, Liam acknowledges his leave of absence and promises to discuss why in a later episode. Then, he tells you why he thinks Rugby Australia was bringing back the Australia 'A' program might be part of a larger conspiracy theory.

Finally, Liam catches up with Author, Pastor and Colour Commentator Andy Mcclure. They discuss fatherhood, mentoring, hardship and, of course, the time Andy got to commentate the Tokyo Olympics. Oh, and they talk a little about Andy's book "Just Show Up".

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