Guests:

• Philip Li, President and CEO of the Robert Sterling Clark Foundation 
• Nadia Roumani, Senior Designer with Stanford d.school, and Co-founder of Stanford's Effective Philanthropy Learning Initiative
• Julia Reed, Director-Relationship Management, Schwab Charitable

After you listen

• Visit the Trust-Based Philanthropy Project to learn more about this initiative.
• Discover tools and resources to engage grantmakers around ways to embody a trust-based approach.
• Download the Schwab Charitable Giving Guide to find information, resources, and activities to help maximize philanthropic impact.