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Hello, listeners. Surprise.

0:02

We're dropping this episode a week earlier

0:04

than usual, so you can check out the show we

0:06

just recorded last week with Keegan-Michael

0:09

Key and Elle Key at Barnes &

0:11

Noble in LA.

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Yeah, now Barnes & Noble is a bookstore,

0:15

not a recording studio, so you may hear some

0:17

music overhead and some crying children

0:19

nearby and some books being dropped

0:22

and opened and closed and thrown. It's a magical

0:24

place. But you'll also hear what we think is

0:26

a pretty great show.

0:27

If you want to see another great show, catch us

0:29

this Sunday in LA at

0:31

another new venue for us, the Lyric

0:33

Hyperion Theater and Bar in Silver

0:36

Lake. Our scheduled guests are actor

0:38

Ever Caridine and comedian

0:41

Ron Funches. You can get tickets

0:43

now at gofactyourpod.com.

0:45

And tickets are available now for our last

0:48

live audience show of the year on Saturday,

0:50

December 2nd at KPCC

0:52

LAist The Crawford in Pasadena. Guests

0:55

for that show will be announced soon.

0:56

That's it. We thank you for listening. And

0:59

now, here's me

1:01

from the bookstore.

1:03

Are you

1:05

a real know-it-all?

1:08

Do

1:10

you annoy your family by shouting

1:13

the answers while watching Jeopardy? Do

1:15

you drive people crazy when you

1:17

start a sentence with, well, actually.

1:21

Well, guess what? You can go

1:23

fact yourself. Hi.

1:26

They're new. They're new,

1:29

Helen. Hi, everyone. Welcome

1:31

to Go Fact Yourself, the show where we quiz

1:33

the smartest people we know and find out

1:35

why they love what they love. I'm

1:38

Helen Hong. And now, from

1:40

Barnes and Noble at The Grove

1:42

in Los Angeles, here's our

1:44

moderator, Jake Heath Van Straten.

1:46

Thank you so much, Helen. Thank you, everybody.

1:50

What a pleasure to record a podcast

1:52

in a bookstore.

1:53

We have never done this. This is the first time

1:55

for us. Well, speaking of first times, Helen, I understand that

1:58

you did something for the first time this week. What

2:00

did you want to tell us about? Yes, I as you know

2:02

JK's I am chronically single and

2:05

I went on a first date to

2:08

the LA Zoo Oh,

2:10

and that was a mistake.

2:12

That was a mistake I'm not gonna lie

2:14

the LA Zoo is not a first date LA

2:16

Zoo is a commitment You know what I mean? Because I don't

2:19

know if you guys have ever been to the LA Zoo But it's

2:21

like a mile walk just from the parking lot to

2:23

get to the front door and in that

2:25

mile walk I already kind of knew I was like, this isn't

2:27

the guy and then I was And

2:30

then I was stuck at the LA

2:32

Zoo It was also

2:34

like it was one of those nighttime

2:36

like Friday night lights at the LA

2:38

Zoo No,

2:39

that's high school football. No,

2:41

it's like it's like oh a special like nighttime

2:44

event at the LA Zoo That sounds very romantic

2:45

It would be

2:48

except for the fact that the animals you want

2:50

to see Also go to sleep

2:52

at night And

2:54

so and the animals that don't go

2:56

to sleep They don't want to disturb them so they don't like

2:58

them. And so basically you're just looking

3:01

at empty pens And

3:03

empty cages. I think we did see one

3:06

armadillo scurrying away

3:08

and And then just walked around

3:10

and I had an overpriced curo

3:12

and

3:13

that was six hours of my life that I'll never get back

3:15

So, thank you. Well, here's to

3:17

love everyone. Huh? What do you say Helen

3:19

Hong ladies and gentlemen? All

3:22

right today and go fact yourself two guests

3:24

will compete to answer questions about facts They

3:26

know facts. They may not know and frankly facts

3:28

They should know plus we'll meet actual experts

3:30

on two very different topics And finally we'll

3:33

declare one of our guests the winner of today's show.

3:35

Let's get started meet today's guests. Helen. Who

3:37

are they?

3:38

They are the authors of a brand

3:40

new book the history of sketch

3:42

comedy Inspired by their award-winning

3:45

audible original podcast the history

3:47

of sketch comedy It's Elke

3:50

and Keegan Michael Key

3:51

Elke and Keegan Michael

3:53

Key

3:57

Hello Al Let's

4:00

eat right there. Hello Keegan. Hello,

4:02

hello. Hello. Hello. Have

4:08

you ever

4:08

done a podcast in a bookstore before?

4:10

This is our first time. This is our first time. Our two.

4:13

Have you ever done a quiz show in a book? Yeah.

4:16

This

4:17

is a first all around for everybody, right? I

4:19

mean, I think it's a first for us and a first for the audience. Yeah.

4:22

Yeah. And I think it could go well. I

4:25

got a good feeling. Yeah. Let's find out. Yeah. Elle,

4:29

of course, you are an award winning film television

4:31

and commercial director, writer, and producer. Keegan,

4:33

of course, an Emmy and Peabody award winning

4:36

actor, writer, and producer. This is

4:38

the book that I am holding up here that I

4:40

believe everyone in the audience already purchased. So really,

4:42

what are we doing here promoting? It's

4:45

called The History of Sketch Comedy. Congratulations

4:47

on the book. Now, I know the book is written a lot

4:49

in Keegan's voice talking about his experience, but Elle,

4:52

this is actually your idea and something that

4:54

came along a while ago. Tell us

4:55

about that. Probably about seven

4:57

or eight years ago, I pitched Keegan this idea.

5:00

You've always heard someone always says, see you write what you know.

5:03

And I was like, you know, you and

5:05

I both know a lot about sketch and history

5:07

and sketch comedy. And you certainly,

5:10

I feel it's funny

5:12

that we're doing a game show because I feel if I was going

5:14

to compete with anyone who would know more than me, that

5:16

it would be Keegan, Michael Key.

5:17

Yeah. Oh, the Godless Beth Rose.

5:21

No, I'm like, that's it.

5:23

He wins. But you had to convince

5:25

him to do the book. I had to convince him. And the

5:27

way that I convinced him is that he would

5:29

tell me a story about something funny or something that

5:32

happened in his life or something in his past as

5:34

we're getting to know each other. And he'd say, oh,

5:36

yeah, when I was in a Renaissance festival, we used to do that. I'm

5:38

like, what's that now?

5:39

What is this? And

5:42

then I'd start taking down notes and he'd be like, are you

5:44

writing this down? And I'm like, yeah,

5:46

I'm writing this down because I think this would make

5:48

a really interesting part of one of the chapters

5:50

of the book that I am going to write with you

5:53

called The

5:53

History of Sketch Comedy. And I said, a book

5:55

that you're going to write with me. And

5:57

I was like, well, you're kind of writing it right now. You just don't

5:59

know it.

7:56

comedy

8:00

like oh god two minutes. There's a lot of great research

8:03

about obviously the history of sketch comedy you go way

8:05

back in history tell us about some

8:07

of the discoveries that you made as you were finding

8:10

out sort of the origins of comedy in itself. Well

8:12

as we were doing research the one of

8:14

the one of the most fascinating things we found is

8:17

what people seem to think is

8:19

the oldest recorded joke yes

8:22

which was from 1900 BC in the land of Sumer or Sumeria which was in Mesopotamia

8:38

and let

8:39

me guess it was like what's the deal with mastodons

8:41

right right right

8:46

if you pass me the book yeah I will I will

8:48

I will read this recorded joke now

8:50

I'm

8:50

going to I'm going to set this up a little bit the Sumerians

8:52

are also credited as creating things

8:55

like algebra and the

8:57

wheel

8:57

and I'm sure this uh it

9:00

fits right into those uh seminal

9:02

inventions this is exactly exactly where we're going

9:04

this is the joke as it were okay

9:08

something which has never occurred since time

9:10

immemorial a young woman did

9:13

not fart in her husband's lap so

9:17

the wheel what did you say

9:21

algebra I'm

9:22

just going to read the next paragraph now Sumerians were a

9:24

super impressive group of folks who contributed some pretty

9:26

amazing things to civilization so if you're

9:28

assuming this first joke was going to

9:30

be a cunning and clever fart joke

9:33

then you would be correct um writing

9:36

the the wheel and fart jokes fart

9:38

jokes go back to 1900 BC well just

9:40

written

9:40

ones I'm sure people were

9:44

making yeah yeah I mean

9:46

I think the cavemen were probably yeah cavemen were pulling each other's

9:49

fingers we have

9:50

to forgive ourselves for thinking

9:53

that fart jokes are funny because they've always been

9:55

funny cavemen

9:55

were pulling each other's

9:57

fingers whoever had opposable digits

9:59

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

10:03

Keegan, you're able to trace your sort

10:05

of comedy sketch origin story that

10:07

you mentioned in the book as well through a very specific moment.

10:10

It's when Eddie Murphy was doing his Stevie

10:12

Wonder impression to Stevie Wonder

10:14

on Saturday Night Live. That's right. And

10:17

you're talking to the book about how, why that was

10:19

so important to you. Tell us about that. It was the

10:21

first time I really saw my father

10:23

laugh, really belly

10:25

laugh and guffaw. My father was a very stoic

10:28

man and kind of a quiet gentleman.

10:30

To see him laugh like that was just so

10:33

absolutely powerful for me. And I just

10:35

kept on thinking to myself, if Eddie Murphy

10:37

can make my dad roll on the floor

10:39

like that, he has a superpower and

10:41

I want to know how he got that superpower.

10:43

Yeah. Wow. So

10:45

here we are years later, you've starred in the movie with

10:47

Eddie Murphy. Yeah. You've hosted Saturday

10:50

Night Live. Was that enough for your dad? Yeah. Right?

10:53

Yeah. What was that like

10:55

then to sort of come full circle to the

10:57

moment that sort of birthed for you? It

11:00

was exactly as surreal as you would

11:02

think it would be. You know, because it's one of those

11:04

weird things where people often say,

11:06

you don't want to meet your heroes. But I got to

11:08

tell you, Eddie Murphy was absolutely lovely. He

11:10

was so gracious. Everything that

11:12

I wanted to be wonderful about him was. Did

11:15

you tell

11:15

him the story about your

11:17

origin story about him? I actually did tell him the

11:19

story and I think he kind of blushed a bit.

11:22

Because I think he understands the power of

11:25

comedy. That it can be such an

11:27

important thing in people's lives. It can

11:29

bring people together. It can

11:31

be a salve when our souls are hurting. It

11:34

can be so many wonderful things. Just

11:37

the healing power of laughter alone

11:40

is really special.

11:41

Have you made your father laugh as

11:43

much as Eddie Murphy made him laugh that time?

11:45

In certain situations. My

11:48

dad did laugh at stuff that

11:50

I did on stage. It

11:52

must be nice when your dad laughs at you for something that you

11:54

did on purpose. Yes, yes. Of

11:58

course, you've got a great comedy background as well.

13:24

of

14:00

shows which starred Sid Caesar or

14:02

on the Colgate Comedy Hour with Martin

14:04

and Lewis, all of these particular

14:07

shows would have sketches that were sometimes

14:10

15 minutes long. You move forward, you fast

14:13

forward to Saturday Night Live and you have sketches

14:15

that are six minutes long and then now

14:17

you watch Saturday Night Live and they're three

14:19

minutes long. Then you go on the internet

14:21

and everything is 30 seconds long.

14:24

I don't know how much shorter it can get. I

14:27

think it's all going to come back to fart.

14:29

That's all we're going to need in the future. Just

14:32

that one word. It

14:34

works. Excellent. Well, thanks so much for being here. Congratulations

14:37

on the book. It's L. Key and Keegan-Michael Key, everyone.

14:42

Alright, Keegan and L., we asked

14:44

each of you to provide us with a few topics outside

14:47

your field of work that you know and love.

14:49

Keegan, for you, you said that was the Matthew

14:51

Stafford era of the Detroit Lions,

14:54

New York City phrases and slang

14:57

and Jewish cooking. Whereas

15:00

for L., you said that you know and love art

15:02

and painting and colors, 1980s

15:04

action movies and Jewish

15:06

cooking. I

15:09

can see why these two get along. Later

15:11

on, we're going to ask each of you some in-depth trivia questions

15:14

about one of those topics, but first we're going to

15:16

get your thoughts on something you might know nothing

15:18

about. It's time to split some hairs with our What's

15:20

the Difference round. We'll have one question for each

15:22

of you, each worth up to two points. If either

15:24

of you gives an incorrect or incomplete answer,

15:27

the other person has a chance to steal. Your

15:29

topic today, a front and a back.

15:32

First up in a front and a back is

15:34

Keegan with a front. Keegan, your question comes

15:36

from a listener. Who is it, Helen? I will let

15:38

them

15:38

tell you themselves because we have

15:41

a listener recording. Listeners,

15:43

if you'd like to submit a suggestion for our

15:45

What's the Difference round, go to gofactyourpod.com

15:48

and click on Get Involved. Okay,

15:51

play it. Hi Jake, Keith, and

15:53

Helen and guests.

15:55

This is Becca from Downey, California.

15:58

My question for What's the Difference

15:59

is

16:01

while they both result in someone's feelings

16:03

being hurt.

16:05

What's the difference between an affront

16:08

and an offense?

16:09

Thanks, love the show, bye.

16:12

So Jay Keith, I think the

16:14

difference is that an affront has to happen in

16:16

the moment and that an offense

16:18

can be something that is written down or

16:21

it can happen prior to the

16:24

meeting of the two people. So when

16:26

a man slaps another man in the face with

16:28

a glove and

16:30

says I challenge you to a duel, that's

16:32

an affront. And then an offense

16:36

is that when that first man who

16:39

was insulted by the second

16:41

man and he knows it's

16:43

time. It's time oriented. Well speaking of time, that's

16:47

all we have for today. No. All

16:50

right, Elle, you heard Keegan's answer. Anything

16:52

you would like to change or add? I

16:54

think an affront is an action

16:57

and an offense is a noun.

16:59

Ah, a noun as opposed to an action.

17:02

All right, can I change my answer? I'm sorry you cannot.

17:05

All right, well this segment is becoming insultingly

17:07

long. Let's go to Helen Hong at the judges table

17:10

for the facts. Here are the

17:11

facts. Both an affront

17:13

and offense are hurtful to someone.

17:16

The difference is intent

17:19

because an affront is

17:21

deliberate. You meant to

17:23

be insulting. An offense

17:25

is not necessarily deliberate.

17:28

You could have meant to be insulting but

17:30

it also could have been a whoopsie.

17:34

Whoopsie. Sorry. Thank

17:36

you, Helen. That's a technical term right?

17:38

The whoopsie. Yes, we got that right from the Oxford dictionary.

17:41

It could have been a whoopsie. It could have been a whoopsie.

17:44

That's right. Now affront can be used as a noun

17:46

and a verb where offense is only

17:48

a noun with the verb being offend. In

17:51

British English offense is spelled with a C

17:54

instead of an S which frankly I find

17:56

offensive. Helen, how did our guests do?

17:58

I'll give each of you half an

17:59

Point for each of you For

18:03

us

18:03

because he and you did say to their face

18:06

which is you know?

18:07

Deliberate yeah, right and

18:09

then L. You did say it was a noun

18:11

hmm, which it is

18:13

point each Let's

18:16

just see that every time we'll do that every time All

18:19

right up next in a front and a back is

18:21

L L while both may take you aback

18:24

if you keep kosher when it comes to pork

18:26

What's the difference between spare ribs and

18:28

baby back ribs spare ribs and

18:31

baby back ribs? And I realize now that both of you

18:33

chose Jewish cooking as

18:35

a topic But

18:40

you've heard of those things

18:43

Yes,

18:43

I think that spare

18:45

ribs are served together

18:47

and and baby back ribs are

18:51

served

18:52

Individually they're not attached

18:54

like you could get spare ribs in a they're

18:56

still connected and you can cook them that way

18:58

Yeah, baby back ribs are little teeny

19:01

separate. Yes delivery babies have

19:03

been torn apart from that is my siblings

19:05

and That

19:06

is my I have no idea, but we're gonna

19:09

say words

19:09

all right We've got L dance we don't know yet if

19:11

she's entirely correct Keegan anything you'd like to change or

19:13

add I think it's exactly the opposite

19:17

Okay, yes that I think that the baby back

19:19

ribs are attached to each other and yes spare

19:21

ribs are Separated all

19:24

right Yes, I think it's the opposite

19:26

all right well We need to spare

19:28

the audience of any more of this segment Let's go back

19:30

to Helen Hong at the judges table for the facts

19:32

here

19:33

are the facts Compared to spare

19:35

ribs baby back ribs are shorter

19:37

curvier and have less meat though that

19:39

meat is generally more tender Baby

19:41

back ribs come from the higher part of a

19:44

pigs rib cage near the spine And

19:46

I don't eat pork so all of this is making me

19:49

feel real gross

19:49

all right I

19:51

do eat pork and given a choice between spare ribs

19:53

and baby back I'd have to say I want my

19:56

baby back baby back baby back baby back baby

19:58

back everybody was thinking it All right, Helen,

20:00

how did our guests do? Yeah, no. Yeah,

20:02

the pull apart thing was not... Hey, we tied again. We

20:04

tied again. You tied again. What is our

20:06

score at the end of that round, Helen? At the end

20:09

of that round, Keegan-Michael Key has half

20:11

a point and Elle Key also has half a point.

20:13

Yes! But those scores

20:15

are bound to change as we move on to questions

20:17

about topics our guests have chosen for themselves. That's

20:19

all up ahead when we come back on Go Fact Yourself.

20:26

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20:40

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20:42

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20:49

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21:17

J. Keith Van Straten.

21:18

Thank you, Helen. Thank you, everybody.

21:21

All right, Keegan, of your many interests,

21:23

you told us that you know and love the Matthew Stafford

21:26

era of the Detroit Lions, New York City

21:28

phrases and slang, and Jewish cooking.

21:30

Let's find out a little bit more about each of those. First,

21:33

tell us what the Matthew Stafford era of the Detroit

21:35

Lions means to you. Okay, well, the Matthew

21:37

Stafford era of the Detroit Lions was when

21:40

we drafted Matthew Stafford

21:43

in the first round out of the University of Georgia in 2009, and

21:45

he was an actual good draft

21:50

pick, which was something that we do not have a lot

21:52

of around the Detroit Lions, barring

21:55

this last couple of seasons where we've been doing quite well. And

21:58

he was absolutely... Absolutely excellent.

22:01

I think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer when

22:03

he when he retires. He's a very

22:05

talented quarterback and the

22:07

people that he had he got to throw the ball to

22:09

a Hall of Famer by the name of Calvin

22:12

Johnson and Watching them play

22:14

together was one of the highlights of my and

22:16

I'm a sports fan and was one of the highlights of

22:18

my Sports life is watching the

22:20

Stafford to Johnson connection. Yeah, and I think

22:22

you can tell you're a sports fan because you referred anything that the

22:24

lines Did as we yes Yes,

22:27

that definitely makes me a sports fan All

22:30

right, great next tell us what New York City phrases

22:33

and slang means to you. I don't know where this

22:35

topic came from Oh, no,

22:37

your publicist had said that she'd asked you and then

22:39

and then this is what we got but that's fine We can move

22:41

on. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah My

22:45

publicist who is from New York, yeah

22:49

Yeah, she might have put it in some of her own so This

22:52

could be a very interesting game Yeah,

22:57

it's weird cuz she's she actually knows more about the Barry

22:59

Sanders era of the Detroit Lions Yeah

23:02

That's all right We can move on to the last one and

23:04

then finally he can tell us why you know and love Jewish

23:06

cooking because my wife Makes it and she's

23:08

an extremely good cook Mm-hmm,

23:11

and and so there are many things that

23:13

I enjoy one thing. I really enjoy is is

23:15

noodle kugel Yeah, I love noodle

23:17

kugel. That is something that is is

23:20

Warmed my heart is to have is

23:23

to have a partner who is good

23:26

and proficient at making these foods And

23:28

have you been so inspired that you want to make your own

23:30

Jewish cuisine? Not not as of yet Yeah,

23:34

but I if I can if I may I understand

23:36

matzah is a good way to good place to start and I have

23:39

I have Actually, I have helped make

23:41

the box. I have helped make matzah ball. Okay, so

23:43

that's and I believe what I do make what

23:45

we make in our house are floaters,

23:48

right No, we make we make

23:50

things okay. We don't make floaters. We make sinkers.

23:52

Yes you do. All right. We make sinkers That's

23:55

right. All right. So to summarize Keegan you said that

23:57

you know and love the Matthew Stafford era of the Detroit

23:59

Lions new york city phrases and flying

24:01

and jewish cooking today we're going to quiz you

24:03

about the matthew staff area of

24:05

the detroit line uh...

24:09

we had been here and would have been a really

24:11

yeah now i don't think i don't think we mentioned

24:13

that tells what your connection to detroit is i

24:15

was born and raised there and i think i've

24:18

been eighty three lines and what

24:20

we will call the billy sims era

24:22

uh... yes and so it is it has been

24:24

quite some time of good forty over forty

24:26

years and and uh... i am a long

24:30

suffering lions fan uh... we

24:32

we we are that we are the cubs or

24:35

we actually we're the cubs of football except

24:37

the cubs have a couple of words were a little bit of a case of

24:39

the case so now we're all by ourselves yeah we are

24:41

the only original team from

24:44

the original nfl from the

24:46

twenties okay has not been to a super

24:48

bowl are not that was it not one of the super

24:50

bowl yeah not mean we've not ever ever

24:53

been

24:53

yeah yet that should be a trophy in

24:55

and

24:56

out of it now right right well i

24:58

don't know there are a lot of uh... fans of sports teams

25:00

that tend not to do well that uh... people

25:02

identify with that long suffering this

25:04

is that the case with that the lines of the lines

25:06

yet and what i'm one of those months of people who

25:09

it's it's like being in an abusive relations actually

25:11

when the those small

25:14

those

25:15

high points yet just just a

25:17

little bit of hope and then they get just dashed

25:19

all right dash well i will not mention that as you

25:22

record this they are in first place in the division is

25:24

correct yeah yeah because i'm sure that's gonna change

25:26

things that's how it works all right well just

25:28

ahead we're gonna list the help of a bonafide expert

25:30

in your topic with an expert level question with

25:32

up to three points but before that to let you show

25:35

your love kegan here five trivia questions

25:37

about your topic each worth one point if

25:39

you want it you're not a hint for me to of these

25:41

five questions no i'll do listen closely

25:43

because kegan answers incorrectly you can

25:45

feel l by the way how much do you know

25:48

about the matthew stafford era of the detroit lions

25:51

matthew stafford is a quarterback

25:54

for the detroit lions who is a first

25:57

round draft pick who went to

25:59

A college and then

26:02

he was drafted from that college. You're

26:04

a really good listener.

26:05

Yeah. So

26:07

short term memory, not the issue we're dealing

26:10

with tonight. All right, well let's see if Keegan

26:12

gives you a chance to get a shot here. Here's

26:14

question number one. Keegan, you might

26:16

have just been helped out a little bit on this because question

26:19

one is this. The Matthew Stafford era began

26:21

when he left college early to enter the NFL

26:23

Draft. The Lions signed him to what was

26:25

reported to be the most guaranteed money

26:28

paid to a draft pick in NFL history.

26:30

At what prestigious overall position in

26:32

the draft did the Lions select him? Oh,

26:35

so he was selected number one. Helen? That

26:37

is correct. That is correct. Number

26:40

one. Number one in the draft. Right. Fun

26:42

fact, it was the most guaranteed money ever paid until

26:45

the following season. When the Rams gave

26:47

you a bit more money to number one pick Sam Bradford,

26:49

Matt Stafford of course now plays for the Rams. Bradford

26:52

played his last NFL game in 2018. You

26:55

did not need the hint on that, but Helen, what would that hint have been?

26:58

Where number then? Where number

26:59

then? Oh, that's a hell of a hit. Helen

27:03

Hong, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. The

27:06

hints are there if you need them. Please use them. All

27:08

right. Here's question number two. In 2009,

27:10

the same year the Stafford era began, the

27:12

Lions rebranded with a new logo

27:14

and updated uniforms, but the home

27:16

uniforms still kept the Lions traditional

27:19

shade of blue, a shade named for

27:21

what US city? Honolulu. Helen?

27:24

That is correct. That is correct as well. Two

27:27

for two.

27:28

Fun fact, according to team Laura, the first

27:31

owner came up with the color after admiring the hue

27:33

of the Pacific ocean on a trip to Hawaii

27:36

and the shade was named Honolulu blue.

27:38

I of course would have gone with Hana blue blue. Here's

27:42

question number three. One of

27:44

the most celebrated players from the Stafford era

27:46

is someone named Calvin Johnson, AKA

27:49

Megatron, who achieved many amazing

27:51

accomplishments. But which of the following

27:54

is not one of them? Is it

27:56

first team all pro AP

27:58

offensive player of the

27:59

the year, NFL All-Rookie

28:02

team, the Pro Football Hall of

28:04

Fame, or

28:06

third place on Dancing with the Stars? Well,

28:09

he definitely is in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Calvin Johnson, I can eliminate

28:11

that one. Calvin Johnson is definitely in the Hall of Fame. And

28:16

gosh, I think that he... Okay.

28:18

And I... Oh my God, he was on Dancing with the Stars,

28:21

right? What place did he come in? What place did

28:23

he come in? No, it wouldn't be that tricky, or

28:25

would we? I

28:28

don't think he placed that high on Dancing

28:30

with the Stars, so I'm going to go with Dancing with the Stars.

28:33

Helen? That is not correct. No, I'm terribly

28:35

sorry. El though with a chance

28:37

to steal, he wasn't on the

28:39

rookie team. Helen?

28:41

That is also not correct. No, I'm terribly

28:43

sorry. He did place third on Dancing with the Stars

28:46

and all those other things, except he was not AP

28:48

Offensive Player of the Year. Oh my God, that

28:50

was the other one I was going to show. That's

28:53

all right. That's all right. Oh my God. Yeah,

28:57

sorry, you did not lose a point. Fun

28:59

fact, Calvin Johnson did come in third place on Dancing

29:01

with the Stars despite receiving perfect scores

29:04

in the finals for his drive in Quick Step

29:06

Fusion to Tootie Fruity. Oh

29:08

wow. Wow. So naturally, I understand,

29:11

you saw that, you remember Tootie Fruity and the drive

29:13

in the Quick Step and you thought obviously he came

29:15

in first or second. First or second, second, second, third. Yeah, and

29:17

then the third. Calvin Johnson. Come

29:19

on. Exactly. All right, no point

29:21

there. You do still have your

29:23

hints available. Gotcha. The 2020

29:26

season marked the end of the Matt Stafford era

29:28

as he was part of a blockbuster trade in January

29:30

of 2021. It also marked the

29:33

end of head coach Mark Patricia's era

29:35

as he was fired earlier in the season and

29:37

replaced by interim coach Darrell

29:39

Bevel. But Bevel was replaced for

29:41

one game in week 16 by

29:43

offensive coach Robert Prince. For

29:46

what reason did Prince have to become acting

29:48

head coach for that one game?

29:50

Oh, I

29:51

will take my hint. Helen,

29:53

how about that first hint?

29:54

It was 2020.

29:56

So it's the same reason the preseason

29:59

that

29:59

year was canceled. Oh,

30:02

because of COVID. Helen. That is correct.

30:04

That is correct.

30:06

And isn't it nice, by the way, to be able to

30:08

applaud for COVID. Fun

30:13

fact, several players and coaches had to quarantine

30:15

to the COVID protocols for that game. Not

30:17

many of them were infected, thankfully, which may

30:19

be why the Lions lost 47 to seven. Yes. It

30:23

was the only game Robert Prince has ever head

30:25

coached. All right, you did well on that. Here's question

30:28

number five. You still have your second hint available.

30:30

Here's question number five. Although

30:32

the Lions didn't win their division during the Stafford

30:35

era, they did make the playoffs three times

30:37

as a wild card. In their first of those

30:39

games against the Saints in 2012, the

30:41

Lions went into halftime leading 14 to 10.

30:44

The second half didn't go so great.

30:47

In the lopsided loss, what was the final

30:49

score for either of those two teams? And

30:52

we'll give it to you if you're within five points. They

30:54

were leading 14 to 10 at the half. Yes. 2012. So Drew Brees

30:56

was playing.

31:00

Um, let's

31:02

just, we probably killed them.

31:04

Let's use that second

31:06

hint. Helen, how about that second hint?

31:08

All the scoring in the

31:10

second half was on touchdowns

31:12

and between both teams, there was

31:14

a total of seven of them.

31:17

Here's the interesting thing. You see, I'm,

31:19

I'm an actor and the reason I'm an actor

31:27

is because I so, so dislike

31:29

math. Oh no. I'm with

31:31

you. Yes. You don't, you don't, you write that one. Is

31:34

that why you're a comedian? That's

31:36

why you wrote a book about the Sumerians fart jokes, not the

31:38

Sumerians algebra. Right. Exactly. Exactly.

31:40

Yes. I'm going

31:43

to say 37 to 14.

31:46

Helen, that is not correct. No, I'm terribly

31:48

sorry. Elle with a chance to steal. What was the score

31:50

at the half? The half, the half, it was 14 to 10. She's going to

31:53

get this. We're just looking for the score of either

31:55

one of those teams.

31:56

And there were, so there are seven more touchdowns,

31:58

seven more touchdowns total. So

32:02

let's do 52 21. Helen.

32:06

That is also not correct. No,

32:07

I'm terribly sorry. You were a little bit closer, Elle. It

32:09

was actually 45 to 28. The Saints won 45 to 28 after

32:11

being down 10 to 14. No

32:16

point there. I only gave

32:17

the Lions one more touchdown. I should have given

32:19

them two more touchdowns.

32:20

It was very generous. That was good,

32:22

Elle. That was good. You only gave me

32:24

the one more touchdown. That's what most people would have done.

32:27

Sorry, no point there. Fun

32:29

fact, in the 2016 game against Seattle, the

32:31

Lions never had a lead. In the 2015 game

32:33

against the Cowboys, the Lions had the lead throughout

32:35

the game until the Cowboys scored with

32:37

less than three minutes remaining.

32:39

Wow, you are not kidding when you say you're

32:41

long-suffering.

32:42

I mean, I don't really know

32:44

much about this team, but the more I'm learning, I'm like,

32:46

they're bad.

32:46

Yeah. You

32:49

can't put one past Helen. She picked that

32:52

up. Yes,

32:54

and I would understand you're blocking out that they gave up 45 points.

32:57

Yes, I'd really understand that. Yes,

32:59

I'd really understand that. Many times. All

33:02

right, you said they're pretty well on that round, but now here's your expert-level

33:04

question that requires multiple answers.

33:07

It is time for your Cluster Facts. Oh,

33:09

a Cluster Facts.

33:11

Oh, that's funny. Thank you. We'll

33:13

be bringing on an expert to discuss your response. Keegan,

33:16

a football team needs defense, so in 2013,

33:19

the Lions landed prized free agent defensive

33:21

back, Glover Quinn, who re-signed

33:23

with the team in 2017 before announcing his retirement

33:26

in 2019. In those six seasons

33:28

with the Lions, Quinn started every game, had 19

33:31

defensive interceptions, and in one year

33:34

led the NFL in interceptions and

33:36

earned himself a Pro Bowl selection, the

33:38

same Pro Bowl that Matt Stafford made. For

33:40

up to three points, of his 19 interceptions

33:43

with the Lions, which team did Glover Quinn intercept

33:46

the most? In what year did he lead

33:48

the league in interceptions and make the Pro Bowl,

33:51

and what number did he wear throughout his

33:53

career with the Lions? Oh,

33:55

my gosh. Wow. I mean,

33:57

I love the

33:59

Lions. Yeah, this is... These

34:02

are all figure-outable if you give a little thought. So,

34:05

yeah, so first we're looking for what team did he intercept

34:07

the most. It might be a team that he faced more often

34:09

than others, something like that. It is either going to

34:11

be the Bears, the

34:13

Packers, or the Minnesota

34:15

Vikings. Okay, which of those would you like to choose? I

34:18

will choose the Bears. Bears.

34:20

All right, next we're looking for in what year did

34:22

he lead the league in interceptions and make the Pro Bowl. Keep

34:25

in mind he signed with them in

34:27

the 2013 season and left in 2019. I

34:30

will say 2015. 2015, okay. And

34:33

what uniform number did he wear during his tenure?

34:35

Oh, boy. With your favorite team, the

34:38

Detroit Lions. I'm

34:41

going to say the Clover War 23. All

34:46

right, Helen is taking note of those answers. We have

34:48

an expert on hand who can tell us for sure. Helen, who

34:50

do we have tonight?

34:51

Joining us tonight via Zoom from

34:53

Houston is a former Pro

34:55

Bowl defensive back for the Detroit

34:58

Lions. It's Glover

35:00

Quinn. Glover Quinn,

35:00

are you there? There he is.

35:02

What's up? How are you all doing? Glover,

35:09

it looks like you're at some sort of a carnival or

35:11

fair. I am. I'm

35:13

at the fair enjoying the night with

35:16

my boys.

35:17

But I had to hop on the call and be

35:19

the expert. We appreciate you being the expert.

35:21

Thank you so much, and good luck winning that yellow Scooby-Doo

35:23

behind you. I already

35:26

lost like 80 books. I

35:32

saw what you signed that free agent contract for, though.

35:34

I think you could be okay. It would be all right. Glover,

35:37

just to give our audience a little bit more background, you were

35:39

only with the Lions six seasons that you took them to the

35:41

playoffs twice. You also have

35:44

the all-time record for the franchise in the top 20

35:46

of passes intercepted in the top 10 for

35:48

yards from interceptions returned in forced fumbles

35:51

and in the top five all-time for the Lions in number

35:53

of passes defended. Very impressive

35:56

career with the Lions.

35:59

Appreciate it. All right. So,

36:02

you kind of had a humble start. I know you were a star

36:04

in high school, but how many scholarship offers

36:06

did you get from colleges? You

36:09

know what? I ended up going to junior college, out of high

36:11

school, because I didn't get really any

36:13

D1 offers out of high school, so I went too close.

36:16

And I only got one Division

36:18

I scholarship offer out of junior college.

36:21

I only played an eight games because a couple

36:23

of seasons got shortened by Hurricane

36:25

Katrina. I broke my arm in one

36:27

season. I played an eight games, and

36:30

I've got one scholarship offer to the University

36:32

of New Mexico. So I left Mississippi,

36:35

went 16 hours away,

36:37

worked with the pro owner.

36:38

Wow. Wow. Yeah, very nice.

36:42

You must have had a lot of confidence in yourself to

36:45

stick with it against those odds. I

36:47

did. I mean, I knew I could play. I just needed the opportunity.

36:50

What's amazing to me is, as soon as you got your

36:52

opportunity, I believe it was, you started

36:54

your fourth game in your NFL career,

36:56

and after that, you started in every game. They knew

36:58

what they had on their hands. Right. What's

37:01

funny is, when I got my first start, my

37:03

own defensive backs coach didn't even want

37:05

me to start. He actually told me

37:07

and his other guy, he was like, hey, we're gonna

37:09

start over this game. Wasn't my choice,

37:11

but we're not playing very good. I'm

37:14

starting to have to say so, right? Wow. I

37:16

went to the defensive coordinator, and he told

37:18

me, he was like, hey, we're gonna let you start

37:20

this game. Don't give us the reason

37:22

to take it back. 150 games

37:25

later, I never gave him a reason to

37:27

take it back. I'm starting to have a game for the rest

37:30

of my career. Grit,

37:32

I think we call that grit, Helen. Right,

37:35

right. What's also amazing is you never missed a game

37:37

in your NFL career, which

37:39

doesn't mean that you- Well, I missed one, my rookie year. Oh, did you, excuse

37:41

me, I'm sorry, but after you started, I believe, yeah, after

37:44

you started, you never missed a game. Right. Yeah,

37:46

but that doesn't mean that you never got injured. If I read correctly,

37:48

at some point, you'd broken your hand, you'd

37:50

torn a ligament. Was it your idea to still

37:52

play anyway, or is that something that other

37:54

people put pressure on you to do? Well, I always wanted

37:57

to play. I mean, I hated missing time,

37:59

you, Penéz, a little. kid so when I

38:01

got to the pros I just wanted

38:03

to play I caught my first three interceptions

38:05

in a game with a broken hand when I was in Houston

38:08

I broke my hand in one week I

38:10

played the next week with a cast on a college three interceptions.

38:13

Wow. You

38:13

have incredible pain

38:15

tolerance and or the drugs

38:17

were amazing. Yes but

38:22

Keegan sketch comedy is also very difficult. Thank

38:26

you. You were

38:28

a free agent after you with Houston. What led you

38:30

to signing with Detroit? I've always

38:33

been a guy that I just wanted to

38:35

go where I was wanted. I've always tried

38:37

to be like a game changer like promote

38:40

change and so at that time Detroit

38:42

didn't really have a great reputation and

38:44

so the GM kept telling me how he wanted

38:47

me to be a part of the change and

38:49

so I was like you know what man I'm gonna do it man I'm

38:51

gonna go to Detroit and I will make it

38:53

work and so I signed with Detroit and

38:55

end up being probably one of the best decisions I ever made.

38:58

It was a decision that made Keegan very happy as well. You

39:01

were tired after playing for 10 years and some

39:03

people were surprised by that but I read that that was actually

39:05

always part of your plan to play exactly 10 seasons.

39:08

Yeah that's all I wanted to do because I didn't

39:10

want to get carried away from the game. Football

39:12

was what I did it wasn't who I was and

39:15

so I wanted to play long enough to

39:17

make enough money and be able to come out

39:19

and enjoy my life. So I had my kids

39:21

when they were young when I was young so now

39:24

I get to come to the fair with my boys

39:27

and enjoy life. I get to walk around I get

39:29

to play ball with them

39:31

so we beat Green Bay 31-0 my last year

39:33

in 2018

39:33

that was kind of like

39:36

a fitting into my career and

39:38

I walked out with a cigar in the

39:40

park a lot and it was and it was great.

39:46

So great to do that on your own terms. Oh

39:48

yeah I got lucky a lot of people don't get to do it

39:50

but I was blessed I can't say. Right

39:53

now I've been retired five years

39:56

I feel great I got in the photo and

39:58

video because I'm like that I got three baller

40:00

they're all athletes so i got in

40:02

the photo and video stuff like

40:05

do all the pictures and content

40:07

then i started doing framing i thought

40:09

brave and on the picture that's right you've actually got

40:11

a business now where you frame sports memorabilia for

40:13

people it's beautiful work if you want to check that out

40:15

as well let me ask you about i read

40:18

uh... this time if this is true as a kid you

40:20

would take little scraps of paper right

40:23

your autograph on them give them to

40:25

your teachers and classmates and fake

40:27

keep this i'm going to be famous one day

40:30

haha that

40:33

is certainly you can't

40:35

remember that absolutely true i

40:37

remember bending in a fellow and somebody

40:39

sent me a picture

40:41

of a annual that i had signed probably

40:43

back in fourth

40:45

grade or whatever and that's

40:47

exactly what it is a key to someone

40:49

did keep it and i can't that's right

40:51

that it is great you

40:53

know i would manifest that for a lot of the lily

40:56

at system works all

40:58

right well let's get to the really brought your govers

41:00

far as our game is concerned you heard the question

41:03

that we asked of kegan first we wanted to know

41:05

of the nineteen receptions that global queen had

41:07

with the lions which team did he intercept the most

41:10

helen what did he can say he

41:12

can send the bears and over

41:15

he is correct is correct

41:17

for the point very good

41:21

and uh... i'll put out a little behind

41:24

the scenes when we were talking the other day about it and i

41:26

told you this is going to be the question you actually able

41:28

to go through each team and count how many

41:30

you were done for each team yet they really stuck out to

41:32

you you keep that your heart when you make an interception

41:34

or a academic every every intersection

41:37

baller called every team every part of our

41:39

that i don't know all ball i noted

41:41

i'd i kept every ball you think some

41:43

people don't want to pay it but i don't know if they are

41:45

you think it's not all my uh... but

41:49

i i know someone who can frame those for you if you need

41:51

him right

41:54

that is a point there for key connection what i know in what

41:56

year did go over lead the league in interceptions and make

41:58

the pro ball hell and what did

41:59

Keegan say? Keegan said 2015.

42:02

And Clover? Well

42:05

it's counting right, counting

42:07

the role. The year that I

42:09

led the League of Interception

42:11

was actually the 2014 season but the play bowl

42:16

was actually played in January

42:18

of 2015. Ahhh, interesting.

42:24

You could give him the point. Or you could give him

42:26

a half a point or no point to talk to you. I

42:28

think Keegan's

42:31

going to refer to this now as the, as

42:34

the Glover Queen era. I think to that. Alright,

42:37

a point there for Keegan, I finally want to know what uniform number

42:39

did Glover Queen wear throughout his career with the

42:41

Lions. Helen, what did Keegan say? Keegan

42:43

said 23. And Glover? That

42:47

is incorrect. Ahhh,

42:50

I'm sorry. Darius Clay wore number 23, ours

42:52

number 27. Sorry,

42:57

no point there. Darius Clay wore 23.

42:59

Yes. No point there

43:02

but Keegan, while we have Glover Queen, our expert

43:04

here, anything you'd like to ask or say to him? Glover, I

43:06

just wanted to say thank you for all of your

43:08

service for the Detroit Lions for those those six

43:10

seasons. I mean, you were wonderful.

43:13

And I also got to meet you at

43:15

a Super Bowl. You were doing an interview with Jim

43:17

Rome. Do you remember that? I do it.

43:22

I was like, I know I'm, I think we were

43:24

doing an event together or we were doing

43:26

something. Yep, yep. I was like, I

43:29

remember Jim, in Houston. It was in Houston.

43:31

Yeah. And you were doing an interview with Jim Rome and I

43:33

was about to go up and we crossed

43:35

paths and we took a picture together and you were

43:37

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44:34

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Welcome back to Go Fact Yourself

47:08

with our guests Keegan-Michael Key

47:10

and Al Key. Once again here's J.

47:13

Keith Van Straten.

47:14

Thank you Helen. Thank you everybody.

47:18

Alright Al, of your many interests you told us

47:20

that you know and love art and painting and colors,

47:22

1980s action movies, and

47:24

Jewish cooking. Let's find out a little bit more about

47:27

each of those. First, tell us what art and painting and

47:29

colors means to you. Both

47:30

of my parents were artists so I grew

47:32

up in a house where art was encouraged

47:34

so I just always

47:37

was drawn to it and liked it. And as

47:39

Keegan said earlier, he suggested

47:41

I put some art in the book so I did that as

47:43

well.

47:44

Yeah and you studied illustration as well. I did,

47:46

I studied illustration. Alright next, tell us

47:48

why you know and love 1980s action movies. It's

47:51

funny,

47:51

Keegan and I, we both I guess

47:53

have a bit of a dad story because when I was a kid

47:55

my dad loved going to those action

47:58

movies and my mom I guess didn't want to go.

47:59

go so much so I was always going with him

48:02

and I was like this is awesome I would

48:04

actually say to my

48:05

brother you sure don't want to be next time because I was

48:08

pretty cool

48:08

but you know wait

48:10

your brother wouldn't go but you will yes yeah

48:13

so you're that it would be your dad and your father

48:15

like no I'm going I'm in father daughter

48:17

not bonding time weapon I'm in die

48:20

hard whatever it is I'm in

48:21

yeah so those are the kind of movies you would bond over

48:23

father and daughter yes awesome and

48:25

then finally tell us why you know in love and I think I have

48:27

a feeling though I know why tell us why you know

48:29

and love Jewish cooking

48:30

I guess I use something I grew up with and

48:33

I cook and it's just something

48:35

I know a little bit about now

48:36

I don't know the answer to this but I'm curious do you

48:38

prefer floaters or sinkers in your matzo ball soup definitely

48:41

sinkers that is a correct answer yes yeah so

48:43

to summarize Al you said that you know and love art in painting

48:45

and colors 1980s action movies and

48:48

Jewish cooking today we're gonna quiz you about 1980s

48:51

action movies

48:55

take that Jewish eaters

48:57

I say that as

49:03

a Jewish eater what are some of your faves that have

49:05

stood the test of time for you

49:06

lethal weapon definitely definitely

49:08

in there and then the first die-hard

49:11

is in there

49:12

that guy agrees yeah okay yeah

49:15

and what was it about the 80s action movies

49:17

and not other decades was it the fact that you got to experience

49:19

them with your father yeah I

49:20

think they made the most impact

49:22

I think there was there was a time

49:24

when there were a lot of really big blow-up

49:27

movies that

49:29

were very influential

49:30

all right well just ahead L we're gonna enlist the help of

49:32

a bona fide expert in your topic with our question

49:35

with up to three points but before that to let you

49:37

show your love here are five trivia questions about

49:39

your topic each worth one point if

49:41

you want it you're allowed to hint for any two of these five questions

49:43

now Keegan do listen closely because if L answers

49:45

incorrectly you can steal by the way Keegan how

49:48

much do you know about 1980s action movies

49:50

I know a little bit about 1980s action movies I feel

49:52

like that's a topic that I know something about okay so

49:55

not just what what L had said that you're repeating

49:57

now you actually know that I've got so knowledge

50:00

of eighties action movies. I am a fan

50:02

of them as well. Okay, well we'll see how this shakes

50:05

out. Alright, here's question number

50:07

one. L, when you think of 1980s

50:09

action movies, you probably think of people like Sylvester

50:12

Stallone, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris, Sigourney

50:14

Weaver, Wesley Snipes, Kurt Russell, Steven

50:17

Seagal, Jean-Claude Van Damme, and

50:19

a certain star of such iconic 1980s

50:22

titles as Red Heat, Red

50:24

Sonia, Raw Deal, and The

50:26

Terminator. Who is this action movie legend?

50:29

Arnold Schwarzenegger.

50:29

Helen? That is correct. That is correct, we're on

50:32

our way. Ah.

50:36

Fun fact, in The Terminator, Schwarzenegger

50:38

says a total of 58 words. The

50:41

question we just asked you also had 58 words,

50:45

depending on how you count Jean-Claude. Here's

50:49

question number two. The top

50:51

grossing movie of 1986 was an action

50:54

movie whose only sequel so far came

50:56

out over 35 years later and

50:59

was the top grossing movie of 2022. What

51:02

movie was it? Top Gun. Helen? That

51:05

is correct. That is correct, very nice.

51:06

Fun

51:08

fact, in the original Top Gun, Tom Cruise memberably

51:10

sings You've Lost That Love and Feeling. That

51:13

very same year, the music group Grant and

51:15

Forsythe had a hit with their cover version of

51:17

the song, reaching number 48 in

51:19

the Netherlands.

51:26

Here is question number three. Many

51:29

action movies did not wait over 35 years

51:31

to release a sequel. In fact, several squeezed

51:34

multiple sequels into the 1980s. But

51:37

which one of the following action franchises

51:39

did not have at least three of

51:41

its titles released between 1980 and 1989? Did

51:46

not have. Did not have. Was it Indiana Jones?

51:49

Rambo?

51:50

Lethal Weapon? Death Wish? Or

51:52

Superman?

51:54

What the answer is, because it's in between 1980

51:56

and 1990, had three?

51:58

I don't believe it. I believe that Indiana Jones

52:01

had three. Between 80 and 89. Between 80

52:03

and 89. I'm pretty sure

52:05

I know the answer, but I'm gonna take

52:06

that hint. Helen, how about that first hint? Indiana

52:08

Jones did have three

52:10

movies that decade. That could be a helpful

52:12

hint. I'm gonna

52:15

go with Lethal Weapon.

52:19

Helen? That is correct.

52:21

That is correct, very nice.

52:23

Good use of that hint. Fun

52:26

fact, Lethal Weapon and Lethal Weapon 2 were both

52:28

released in the 1980s, but Lethal Weapons 3 and 4

52:31

came out in 1992 and 1998 respectively. We

52:34

have been threatened with a fifth Lethal Weapon

52:36

movie. Here's question number

52:38

four. Action movies, of course, didn't

52:40

just feature male stars and there were

52:43

hardly any women tougher than Grace Jones,

52:45

who in the 1980s appeared in the action-packed

52:47

James Bond movie, A View to a Kill and

52:50

the action comedy, Straight to Hell. She

52:52

also notably appeared as the warrior Zula

52:55

in 1984's Conan the Destroyer,

52:57

where she carries and fights with what

52:59

weapon?

53:00

I'm not sure, so

53:03

I mean, it must be some

53:05

kind of sword, but I'm gonna take

53:07

the hint.

53:07

Helen, how about that second hint?

53:09

When he's drunk, Conan calls

53:12

it

53:12

a toothpick.

53:13

A wooden stick. Helen? That

53:16

is correct.

53:16

That is correct.

53:18

Another excellent use of the hint. Fun

53:23

fact, according to the British Film Institute, Grace

53:25

Jones trained for 18 months to use the

53:27

sharp stick she carries in the movie, but she

53:29

still reportedly injured two stuntmen

53:31

with it during the making of the film. Guys,

53:34

there was no CG. I'm out of my hints, all

53:36

right. Number five, let's see. All

53:38

right, here's question number five, Elle. You have no

53:40

hints available. Let's see how you do on your own. While

53:43

Hollywood action movies in the 1980s didn't get

53:45

much recognition from the Oscars, it was a different

53:48

story in Asia, where the equivalent of

53:50

the Oscars, the Hong Kong Film Awards,

53:52

awarded Best Picture in 1986 to

53:54

the Jackie Chan action film Police Story.

53:57

In what category did the film win its other

53:59

award?

53:59

for Jackie Chan's stunt team,

54:02

and it was not called Best Stunts. So

54:04

you're saying in Hong Kong, they

54:06

won an award. True. What

54:08

was the category called

54:10

that the stuntman won their award

54:12

in? That the stunt team

54:13

won. The stunt team won an award.

54:16

And it's not called Best Stunts. Yes. It's

54:18

not called Best Stunts.

54:20

I'm going to say

54:22

Best Ensemble.

54:24

Helen, was it Best Ensemble? It was not.

54:26

No, I'm terribly sorry. Keegan with a chance to steal.

54:29

Is it Best Choreography?

54:31

Helen? Ooh. Close.

54:35

Best Action Choreography.

54:36

Is that the Action Choreography?

54:38

I would give that to him. I

54:41

think you should give that to him. I'll give it

54:43

to you. A point for Keegan. Very nice.

54:48

If

54:48

it wasn't me, I would want him to have the point.

54:50

Oh.

54:50

What a very supportive

54:53

co-author. It's a good point. Fun

54:55

fact, Police Story was nominated for six

54:57

of those awards, winning those two. The next

55:00

year, the John Woo action film A Better

55:02

Tomorrow won Best Picture. Mm. Respect

55:04

Their Action. Another action. They respect their action movies. Yes.

55:07

Very good. All right. You did very well on that. But now

55:09

here's your expert level question that requires multiple

55:11

answers. Elle, it is time for your cluster

55:13

fact. Okay. Ooh. Ooh.

55:17

They'll get there. We'll be bringing out an expert

55:19

to discuss your response. Elle, 1983

55:23

saw an action movie directed by John Battam,

55:25

whose title character is a state-of-the-art

55:28

military vehicle called Blue Thunder.

55:30

For up to three points, what kind of

55:33

vehicle was Blue Thunder? What

55:35

human was the leading star of

55:37

Blue Thunder? And what other

55:39

thriller starring Matthew Broderick was

55:41

also directed by John Battam and also

55:44

released in 1983?

55:45

Okay. First one is a helicopter.

55:48

Okay.

55:48

The second question was who was the star of Blue

55:50

Thunder? Yes. What human was the lead

55:53

star of Blue Thunder? I'm

55:54

so bad with names. Keegan would know. Okay.

55:57

That's why I say Keegan knows.

55:59

to tell you so badly. He was

56:01

very handsome I

56:03

know that.

56:04

No it wasn't me. He

56:08

was Caucasian and

56:10

he was handsome. And

56:12

he had short hair.

56:13

Okay. So

56:14

I'm not sure I'm gonna go back to the second

56:16

one and the last question was

56:18

the same director in 1983 also did an action movie.

56:22

Did it also directed a thriller starring

56:25

Matthew Broderick.

56:27

The only, I mean the Matthew Broderick

56:29

movie I remember was War Games. Okay. I don't know if that's

56:31

the right one but that's my guess. Okay.

56:33

And.

56:34

And he gets on the actor. The actor. Nearing

56:37

it down from Caucasian handsome

56:39

and short hair. God. I can't

56:41

remember. Okay no worries. Helen is taking note

56:43

of those answers. We have an expert on hand who can tell us

56:46

for sure. Helen who do we have tonight.

56:47

Joining us tonight is an acclaimed film

56:50

director whose many credits include

56:52

iconic works like Saturday Night

56:54

Fever, Short Circuit and

56:57

several action films of the 80s

56:59

including Blue Thunder. It's

57:01

John Battom.

57:02

John Battom ladies and gentlemen.

57:12

Hello John Battom greeting our guests. John

57:14

it is such a special honor to have you here. For

57:17

those of you who are not as familiar in

57:19

addition to films like Saturday Night Fever and Short Circuit

57:21

that Helen mentioned you also are the director of several

57:24

films including Whose Life Is It Anyway, Steak

57:26

Out, Burn on a Wire, Dracula, Point of

57:28

No Return, The Bingo Long, Traveling

57:30

All Stars and Motor Kings, Blue Thunder and

57:32

a movie that we will discuss a little bit later. We've

57:34

also directed a lot of current and recent TV programs including

57:37

Nikita, Criminal Minds, Psych and

57:39

Supernatural. John Battom ladies and gentlemen.

57:45

Well we'll talk about

57:47

your filmmaking work a little in a little bit but you

57:49

also have another career as a professor.

57:51

Tell us about where and what you've been teaching. Well I spend

57:54

several days a week down in Orange

57:56

County at Chapman University

57:59

and Dodge College.

58:08

point

1:00:00

of this, you know, what are

1:00:02

we trying to accomplish during the scene? What's

1:00:05

the goal of our leading man as

1:00:07

they're flying helicopters down

1:00:09

through the LA River bed and

1:00:12

being chased by guys with

1:00:14

machine guns in another helicopter? Just

1:00:16

can't go and shoot a bunch of helicopters

1:00:19

going by. You've got to have incidents

1:00:22

and they almost run into the

1:00:26

pillars of the bridges and then they've got

1:00:28

to, something else happens. You've got

1:00:30

to keep it alive, otherwise it just gets

1:00:32

boring. What's so interesting, I think we

1:00:34

talked about earlier, what's so interesting to me is back then you

1:00:36

didn't have drones to shoot this footage, you didn't have

1:00:39

CG to fix them or to

1:00:41

add effects. I mean, obviously there were some visual effects,

1:00:43

I think there was probably some blue screen, I think in

1:00:45

Blue Thunder. How do you look at action movies

1:00:48

today that have those other advantages? Does it make

1:00:50

you hungry that you wish you had them or do you feel like

1:00:52

you did it the way you wanted it to be done? I gotta tell you, there's

1:00:54

no blue screen in that movie. Oh, okay,

1:00:57

excuse me. I'm like two miniature shots

1:00:59

total. If it was done, it was done

1:01:01

with real helicopters at real

1:01:03

speeds and in real places. And

1:01:06

we're flying downtown LA on Sundays, 50

1:01:09

feet above the ground in between

1:01:11

the buildings. Wow. Yeah,

1:01:14

so that's what 1980s action movies were like

1:01:16

for the young people. Very nice.

1:01:23

Last, I want to ask you about you've directed a

1:01:25

lot of movies over the years, as we mentioned, a lot

1:01:27

of TV movies as well. There was one movie

1:01:29

I was curious about. It was a TV movie

1:01:31

about an investigative reporter who sets

1:01:34

out to prove his brother, a professional football

1:01:36

player, was innocent of murder. Do

1:01:38

you happen to remember the title of that movie? Because

1:01:40

according to my notes, it was called The Keegans. Oh

1:01:44

my God. Was he? Okay,

1:01:47

The Keegans. Sorry. It

1:01:56

was nothing personal to that title.

1:01:59

All right, well let's get to

1:02:02

the reason we brought you here as far as our game is concerned.

1:02:04

You heard the question that we asked of El. First

1:02:07

we wanted to know in the movie Blue Thunder

1:02:09

what kind of vehicle was Blue Thunder. Helen,

1:02:11

what did El T say?

1:02:12

El said helicopter.

1:02:14

And John? And absolutely correct.

1:02:17

Absolutely correct, very

1:02:21

good. Next we wanted to know what human was the

1:02:23

leading star of Blue Thunder. Helen,

1:02:25

what did El say?

1:02:26

A Caucasian man with short hair who

1:02:29

was handsome.

1:02:29

And John? And

1:02:31

that's the way we build him in the title.

1:02:41

I must have seen a different version because the name

1:02:43

was short hair. Yeah, that's weird. I

1:02:45

must have seen a different version the other night because they had

1:02:47

a different name above the title. Who

1:02:49

was that in fact? We're

1:02:52

standing on Sunset Boulevard

1:02:54

shooting at a

1:02:57

diner, a drive-in diner. A bunch of

1:02:59

guys come up to him and

1:03:02

start talking to him. They were military

1:03:04

guys on leave.

1:03:07

And one of them says, don't

1:03:10

I know you from somewhere?

1:03:12

And his buddy says, oh man,

1:03:14

don't you know nothing?

1:03:16

This is George C. Schneider.

1:03:20

Better known as? Roy Scheider. Roy

1:03:22

Scheider was there, yeah. Roy Scheider. I know

1:03:24

it was on the tip of your tongue. That's all right. I said

1:03:26

Roy. That's all right. You're using

1:03:29

Jaws. But finally wanted to know what other thriller

1:03:31

starring Matthew Broderick was also directed by John

1:03:33

Battom and also released in 1983. Helen,

1:03:36

what did El say? El said War Games.

1:03:38

And John? Absolutely, absolutely.

1:03:40

After the correct another point. I

1:03:43

looked up the release dates. How was it that War

1:03:45

Games and Blue Thunder were released three weeks

1:03:48

apart from each other? I was

1:03:50

really

1:03:50

tired.

1:03:54

That would explain it. There

1:03:56

was a point where I was shooting

1:03:58

War Games in the day.

1:05:59

Keegan, their national men's rugby league

1:06:02

team is called the Kangaroos. True.

1:06:04

Correct. Elle, their women's rugby league

1:06:06

team is called the Kangaroos. True?

1:06:09

Incorrect. No. No,

1:06:13

I'm sorry, they're called the Jilla-roos. Keegan,

1:06:16

I didn't do it. Keegan,

1:06:18

their men's volleyball team is the Volleyroos.

1:06:21

True. Correct. Elle, the women's

1:06:23

volleyball team is the Volleyroos. I

1:06:27

think this is

1:06:28

very easier. True.

1:06:31

Correct. Yay!

1:06:33

All right. Keegan,

1:06:38

their men's soccer team is the Socceroos.

1:06:41

True. Correct.

1:06:45

Elle, the women's soccer team is

1:06:47

the Socceroos. True. Yes. Incorrect.

1:06:50

No, I'm terribly sorry. Keegan, it's

1:06:52

called the Jilla-roos. True. Incorrect.

1:06:56

Elle, it's called the Kangaroos. True.

1:07:00

Incorrect. Keegan, it's

1:07:02

called the Ru-a-roos. False.

1:07:06

Correct. Elle, it's called the Matildas. True.

1:07:09

Correct.

1:07:13

And finally, Keegan, which is much less

1:07:15

fun than the Ru-a-roos. The true.

1:07:18

Correct. All right, let's give a nice hand to Keegan, Michael

1:07:20

Key, and Elle Key, as Helen tabulates

1:07:23

the final score. Helen, are you

1:07:25

ready to announce the winner of today's episode?

1:07:27

I am at the end of the game. Keegan, Michael

1:07:29

Key has 10 and a half points, and Elle Key has 7

1:07:31

and a half points. Congratulations,

1:07:33

Keegan, Michael Key. You are the facts

1:07:35

and champion on Go Fact Yourself. Keegan,

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what will you do with your championship? Oh,

1:07:40

I will take those points, and I will cherish

1:07:42

them in my heart. Oh. And I will share

1:07:46

two of them. I just did it again with the

1:07:48

math. I was going to say, I

1:07:50

was going to share two of them with her, so we'd be

1:07:52

tied. Not how math works.

1:07:54

No, no, no. No. Excellent.

1:07:58

Next time she's making... you floaters

1:08:00

not thinkers. It's a good thing you

1:08:02

can do funny voices isn't it? Yeah very good.

1:08:05

I just want to wrap up by giving everyone on the panel

1:08:07

a chance to mention or promote anything they might have. Ellen,

1:08:10

Keegan, Michael, Key, anything you might have you would like to

1:08:12

promote?

1:08:12

We have a book that just came out this week it's

1:08:14

called The History of Sketch Comedy.

1:08:16

It's wherever books are sold

1:08:19

and and even

1:08:21

in the room that we're in right now at Barnes & Noble

1:08:23

they have signed copies.

1:08:24

Excellent go to a place where books are sold

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like right here Thank you. Ladies

1:08:29

and gentlemen you are so lucky because my hosting partner

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is Miss Helen Hong. Helen

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what do you have going on? You can

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follow me on the

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socials at funny Helen Hong

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not that other Helen Hong because she's not funny

1:08:42

and if you are in the Seattle area

1:08:45

I will be performing at the Kirkland Performance

1:08:47

Center on October 21st so

1:08:49

come see me there.

1:08:52

Come see her there you'll be happy you did it Helen

1:08:54

Hong. And me you

1:08:57

can find me on X I still can't

1:08:59

say that I still can't say that with a straight face and

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at all the other socials at jkeith.net

1:09:03

all spelled out that just leaves me to thank Keegan

1:09:05

Michael Key, El Key, Glover Quinn, John

1:09:07

Badham and thank you for listening and supporting

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our show at MaximumFun.org.

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I'm J Keith Van Straten. Good night!

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1:09:45

too. I really enjoy it.

1:09:47

Thanks Stephen Boykin. Learning can be

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fun.

1:09:51

Go fact yourself is a panel quiz program

1:09:53

devised and produced by Jim Newman and J Keith

1:09:55

Van Straten and comes to you via transcription

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from Barnes & Noble at the Grove Center.

1:09:59

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are produced in collaboration with

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1:10:12

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1:10:15

on this recording is Dave McKeever.

1:10:18

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1:10:20

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1:10:25

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1:10:35

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Helen Hong. Let's

1:11:00

go make matzo ball soup. Oh,

1:11:02

well baby sinkers or floaters. Right

1:11:05

there just on the level.

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