0:00

Hello, listeners. This episode

0:02

was recorded with a live audience, but not with you,

0:04

Helen Hong. No, I had a gig out

0:06

of town, so sadly, I could not make

0:08

the show. Well, how was the gig? Not

0:13

that good, huh? You

0:16

know what? It was fine.

0:18

I always love our live recordings, so

0:20

I was sad to miss it. But yeah, I had

0:22

to make that cheddar.

0:24

I understand. Well, it's. I had to go on the road.

0:26

Sure. Well, there's more cheddar to be made coming up,

0:29

I understand. Yes, there's more chances

0:31

for you, our devoted listeners, to come

0:33

see me do stand-up. If you live

0:35

in Covina, I

0:37

will be at the Laugh Factory Covina

0:40

on November 26. And

0:42

if you live in San Francisco,

0:45

I will be at the San Francisco Punchline

0:47

on December 11 doing a breast cancer

0:49

awareness fundraiser. And I will be talking

0:52

about my new boobies, so definitely come to that

0:54

one.

0:54

Oh, for sure. And of course, Helen, you will

0:56

be back with us for our next live audience show, which

0:58

will be on Saturday, December 2 with our friends

1:01

at LAist in Pasadena.

1:02

Yes, and our scheduled guests

1:04

from Bob Hart's Abishola are Billy

1:07

Gardell and Gina Yashere.

1:10

Our last Pasadena show sold out,

1:12

so make sure to get your tickets now at gofactyourpod.com.

1:16

And a couple of other things about the episode you're

1:18

about to hear. We had a little tech issue toward the

1:20

end of the show. When Helen's not there, everything just falls

1:22

apart. Yes, some of the audio

1:25

came through only one little tiny microphone instead

1:27

of the four big ones. You'll see. It'll

1:29

be fine. You'll get through it. I love you. Also,

1:32

we recorded this episode while the Hollywood strikes

1:34

were still going on. Thankfully, those are now over.

1:36

But you will hear us reference them and why we can

1:39

and can't talk about certain things.

1:41

I am so glad the strikes are

1:43

over and so glad to be back with you

1:45

on our next episode. But right now,

1:48

here is the fabulous Nicole

1:50

Thurman.

3:59

needed to tick a box I needed to tick when

4:02

I was searching on Hotels.com. I'll tell you

4:03

what, when you want to have a nice night, you want to be

4:06

in a dry ass

4:06

hotel room.

4:09

Have a great vacation everybody. Today

4:12

on Go Fact Yourself, two guests will compete to

4:14

answer questions about facts they know, facts

4:16

they may not know, and frankly, facts they should

4:18

know. Plus, we'll meet actual experts on

4:20

two very different topics. And finally, we'll

4:22

declare one of our guests the winner of today's show.

4:25

Let's get started and meet today's guest. Nicole,

4:27

who is up first? Alright,

4:28

he's a writer and comedian who is

4:30

in his 14th year of hosting the

4:33

popular podcast, The 40-Year-Old

4:35

Boy. It's Mike

4:36

Schmid! Mike

4:38

Schmid, everybody! Mike Schmid! Hello,

4:41

Mike!

4:43

You have been previously booked on this

4:46

show more than one time. Do

4:49

you want to talk about what happened in those two times?

4:51

This is my third attempt at being and joining all of

4:53

you here with Go Fact Yourself. The first

4:55

time I was booked, and again, feel free to hang this

4:57

on me, I was ready to come in and do great.

5:00

And I... what did they call it? I

5:02

believe the international pandemic. Oh, pandemic,

5:05

yeah, there was a pandemic. Literally

5:07

the week it happened. They closed the NBA Wednesday,

5:09

he texted me Thursday morning. But also you panicked,

5:12

you were like, should we still do this? I'm like, they closed

5:14

the NBA! I don't know if I would

5:16

call that panic as much as being

5:18

open-minded to what your experience

5:21

was. Well, it was a crazy time, we didn't quite know what was

5:23

happening. True. So I was trying to figure out

5:25

if we should still do this, and it turned out, obviously

5:27

not. Yes, but then you did

5:29

book me last year, and then unfortunately, the lovely and talented, our

5:32

great friend Helen Hong, became sick. Not

5:34

pandemic sick. And then it finally

5:36

worked out for today. Well, it did. Well, all right,

5:39

yes, but not without incident. Because you

5:41

gave me dates, a range of dates to choose from, and

5:44

I chose this one. My other date was two

5:46

weeks ago, and a hurricane hit Los Angeles. Crazy!

5:49

So I don't know how I missed it, because I

5:52

even texted him, and I go, there's going to be a volcano the day

5:54

I show up. That's right. Excellent. Well,

5:56

we're so happy that it finally worked out. Thank you.

5:59

Your podcast is coming up. the 40 year old boy. How

6:01

long have you been the 40 year old boy, keeping

6:03

in mind that this is now in its 14th year? The

6:06

math gets screwy. When

6:08

I started, I was truly, I was

6:11

the 40 year old boy. But I mean, the

6:13

name's too good. I mean, it wasn't those things that I could change

6:16

going forward. There's a little character, there's branding, branding

6:18

folks. Because also I've actually,

6:21

between taking time off and stuff like that, I'm

6:23

in the 14th year, but I'm 56. So somewhere we

6:27

lost two years. It may have

6:29

been the pandemic. It may have been that same thing. Oh

6:31

yeah. So yeah, I've been doing it for 14 years,

6:34

but I was 40 when I started, and then here we

6:36

are now. Great. Well, what's so amazing about the show is that

6:38

it is just you. You describe it as a couple

6:40

hours of a stream of consciousness. Listening

6:42

to it though, that wasn't really covered. It's really more

6:44

of like a vast network of waterways of consciousness.

6:47

What's so great about it, you'll

6:49

start on one topic, you'll go off and do another thing,

6:51

then that'll branch into something else, and then it'll come back

6:53

to the first thing, but then also the second thing and the third

6:55

thing, it's such an incredible

6:58

feat that I see. Is it true that you really don't plan

7:00

anything when you're doing that? I don't. I

7:02

call it talking at the speed of my head. So

7:04

literally, I just said, I mean, I don't have a general

7:07

idea of something I might have done, but I mean, this

7:09

week, I was going to tell the story about an orientation

7:11

thing that I went through, and I wound up talking about the Snake

7:13

podcast. I mean, it's literally just nonsense. Do

7:17

you ever struggle to fill the time? Because it seems like

7:19

you're actually trying to cut yourself off rather than fill

7:22

the time up. Well, I'll tell you a story about

7:24

that. I did a four-wall

7:26

theater tour. I booked the show on the road, and

7:28

I wrote a one-man show that was about two hours

7:30

long, but before the two hours of the one-man

7:33

show, I would do an hour of what I had done in

7:35

town as a stand-up. Like I did three hours

7:37

and 40 minutes in St. Louis, just

7:39

nonsense, and I'm not doing it again, please.

7:42

Because I love it, but then in San Francisco,

7:45

people had to leave the late show because the trains were closing.

7:50

So there was a guy in Toronto, I tried to book a comedy bar to go there

7:52

and do it, and he scoffed at me on the

7:54

phone. I said, I need a four-hour window because the show

7:56

sometimes has three hours, and he's just like,

7:58

nobody does a three-hour show.

7:59

not doing a three-hour show.

8:01

And not only was the show three hours

8:03

and 15 minutes, but the subsequent podcast

8:05

was over four hours. Wow. And that's why they

8:07

call you the Bruce Springsteen of comedy. Last

8:11

thing I want to ask you about, of course, you were named Mike Schmidt.

8:13

People may be familiar that there was a Hall of Fame baseball

8:16

player named Mike Schmidt. There's a famous political

8:18

consultant. There's a New York Times reporter.

8:21

Do you know of other Mike Schmitz that you've met along your way? Weirdly,

8:23

though, this is the worst one. There's another comedian

8:25

named Mike Schmidt. And I'm

8:28

from Chicago, and he's from Wisconsin. And then

8:30

he moved out here, and he was at the store all the time.

8:32

So I would get his mail, and I didn't meet

8:34

him for like five years. And then I went to the store,

8:37

and he was there. And he's like, Oh, you're

8:39

you. And I'm like, Oh, you're you. I

8:41

was getting notes from him, and people were sending

8:44

like Spiderman meme. Yeah. Yeah.

8:47

So it was and he was a cool guy. It was nice. But

8:49

he had been because we're both from the Midwest, both Mike Schmidt,

8:52

and we had worked the road in the Midwest separately,

8:54

because I was like 15 years older than the guy. How

8:56

do you resolve that? Does he take an initial? Well, he's dead

8:58

now. Oh, okay. Well, we stepped outside.

9:01

God, I love

9:01

this dude. Everybody else is like, you said no. He

9:05

landed her. He landed her. He landed her.

9:07

He landed her. I think that was a guffaw. I haven't heard

9:09

a guffaw in 25 years.

9:11

But good for you. Please keep it up. Excellent. Well,

9:14

we're happy that you joined us. The guffaw-inducing

9:16

Mike Schmidt, the real Mike Schmidt, as

9:18

far as I'm concerned. That's right. Nicole

9:21

against whom will Mike be competing?

9:22

Oh, she is an actor who's been seen on Broadway,

9:25

on TV and in movies. It's Anna

9:28

Camp.

9:28

Anna Camp is here.

9:32

Hello,

9:37

Anna. So nice of you to join us.

9:39

So nice to be here. I'm very excited.

9:42

Thanks for having

9:42

me. Now you of course are in the Screen

9:45

Actors Guild and after us. So you're not going to be talking about

9:47

any specific upcoming projects. Anna, did

9:49

I read correctly that you actually were shooting a show

9:51

when the strike happened and got it shut down? Yes.

9:53

What was that like?

9:54

So I was actually shooting an

9:56

amazing TV show and I'm

9:58

not promoting it because it's not.

9:59

I'm coming out, yeah, but it's called Hysteria.

10:02

And it's set in 1989, and it's about a satanic

10:05

panic. So

10:06

it's about these young

10:08

high school kids that start to join this really

10:11

cool goth band.

10:13

And I play a woman who

10:16

is a cult leader, like a Christian

10:18

conservative cult leader who is trying

10:20

to rid the world of that kind

10:23

of music. So kind of similar to my true

10:25

blood days where I played Sarah Newland. But

10:27

yeah, we were three episodes in, and

10:30

then we got a call around six in the morning. I had to

10:32

be at work at 6.30, and they said, don't come

10:34

in, we're shutting down for the

10:36

WGA strike. They

10:38

apparently had two picketers, because we were

10:40

in Covington, Georgia, a very small town outside

10:43

of Atlanta. And because we had two

10:45

picketers, the entire show shut down.

10:47

What a great message, though, that two people can

10:49

make such a difference. So they say that no one

10:51

person can. And I guess that's true. You need

10:53

two. You need another person. You need two. You need

10:56

another person. I got one, was it enough? Yeah,

10:58

that's true. That's

11:00

true, but it's okay. A lot

11:02

of musical theater people up here. Run,

11:06

everybody run. I was reading in the

11:08

trades that you are working on another show that has

11:10

an interim agreement with one of your pitch perfect

11:13

co-stars.

11:13

Yes, I do. This is actually a

11:15

film that we just wrapped production. SAG

11:18

gave us a waiver, an interim agreement. It's called

11:20

Bride Hard. So it's kind of like

11:22

Die Hard, Bride Hard. The

11:25

other title we're looking at is Bride or Die.

11:29

I think the audience chooses that one, if we

11:31

have a choice. Rebel

11:32

Wilson and I are reunited

11:34

again.

11:35

So it's a really fun one.

11:37

And I get to be the bride of

11:39

Bride Hard.

11:40

Oh, fun. It's an action comedy. We're

11:42

really excited. Very cool. You are not a

11:44

stranger to the stage. You've been on Broadway

11:46

a bunch. Your debut play

11:48

on Broadway. Tell us who starred in it with

11:50

you and who directed it, because this is pretty amazing. There's

11:52

a couple people that you might've heard of. Morgan

11:56

Freeman. Wow. Um. Francis.

12:00

McDormand. Wow. Love

12:02

her so much. And Peter Gallagher. What

12:04

the hell. I work with him as well. He's

12:06

amazing. So sweet, so talented.

12:09

They were all so incredible. But it's a

12:11

very pinch me moment that Mike

12:13

Nichols

12:14

directed me and my

12:16

very, very, very first Broadway

12:18

play.

12:19

Unbelievable. Funny story about Morgan.

12:21

He did fall asleep once. Backstage.

12:23

Oh, okay.

12:26

But backstage. So we

12:28

were backstage, similar to this, but

12:30

I couldn't cross to tell him

12:33

to wake up and he had missed his cue. Yeah,

12:36

which by the way, we should point out for people not familiar

12:38

with the theater, not usually the job of a co-star

12:40

in the show. No, not usually.

12:44

My very first job ever. I was like 50

12:46

young, like right out of college, and I

12:49

couldn't cross the way to say anything because

12:51

then I would be seen in the light. Yeah. Francis

12:53

McDormand is on stage and she's just vamping

12:56

and vamping. And I'm like, oh my God. So

12:58

all I could do was go,

13:00

Morgan. Morgan.

13:03

Morgan.

13:04

And then finally he looked up and I go, you're

13:07

on. And he woke up and

13:09

he just went right on stage. Like nothing had

13:11

happened. Wow. And I sat there

13:13

and I was sweating. Oh my

13:15

God.

13:16

I had a wig on and I had like sweat,

13:18

like dripping

13:18

down my whole body. And he was completely cool, I'm guessing. And he

13:20

would like, did not even skip a beat,

13:23

like a breath of like fresh air walking out

13:25

on the stage. And I like probably forgot

13:27

my one line.

13:28

The last thing I want to ask

13:30

you about your performance debut. I understand

13:32

your first role, even though you're known for playing

13:34

a lot of nice people, you actually

13:36

played a drug dealer. Can you tell us

13:38

what that production was?

13:39

I cannot believe that you brought this

13:41

up. Oh, I hope it's okay.

13:43

Yes, I got asked to play the drug

13:45

dealer, which I was really actually like kind of shocked

13:48

by all these other kids got to be like the cool

13:50

kids that say no to drugs. And I was like, huh, me. Okay.

13:52

And how old were you at this point? If you remember? Second

13:55

grade, second grade drug dealer. What

13:57

was the show? It was a dare.

13:59

So, dare

14:00

to keep kids off drugs.

14:03

He really went digging in the vault, didn't he? He

14:05

really did. This is like very, very, very

14:08

young.

14:08

And they gave us jelly beans to

14:11

like push

14:14

all the other kids. And no one at

14:17

that elementary school was hooked on jelly

14:19

beans after that. That's how convincing she

14:21

was. Anna Camp, everybody. Thank you for being here,

14:23

Anna Camp. Incredible. All

14:25

right, Mike and Anna, we asked each of you to provide us with

14:28

a few topics outside your field of work that you

14:30

know and love. Mike, you said you know and love

14:32

the movie Reservoir Dogs, the

14:34

Road Warriors wrestling team and Van Halen.

14:38

Whereas, Anna, you said that you know and love Southern

14:40

Cuisine, the play and movie A

14:42

Streetcar Named Desire, and the

14:44

TV show Vanderpump Rules. Very

14:47

varied. Yeah,

14:51

now, I want to make sure, I didn't switch those between the two

14:53

of you, right? Those were correct? You got it right. That's

14:56

us. Okay, just making sure. We're going to do some in-depth

14:58

trivia questions about one of those topics. But

15:01

first, we're going to get your thoughts on something you might

15:03

know nothing about. It's time to split some hairs

15:05

with our What's the Difference round. We'll have one question

15:07

for each of you, each worth up to two points. If

15:09

either of you gives an incorrect or incomplete

15:11

answer, the other person has a chance

15:13

to steal. Your topic today, cops

15:16

and robbers. First up in cops and robbers

15:18

is Mike. Mike, your question comes from a

15:20

listener. Who is it, Nicole?

15:22

Well, I will let them tell you themselves because

15:24

we have a listener recording. Listeners,

15:26

if you'd like to submit a suggestion for our What's the

15:28

Difference round, go to gofactorpod.com

15:31

and click on Get Involved. All right,

15:33

play it. Hi, Go Fact

15:35

Yourself team. This is Kim Grazulis

15:37

from Oswego, Illinois. My question

15:40

for What's the Difference is, while

15:42

both might be cops, what's the difference

15:44

between a sheriff and a chief of police?

15:47

Thank you so much.

15:48

All right, thank you so much, Kim.

15:50

Now, Mike, I saw you light up when you heard Oswego, Illinois.

15:52

Is that a place with which you're familiar? We used to play them in

15:54

football. Oh, okay. Because I grew up

15:57

in Chicago and Bolingbroke was a suburb, so yeah, we would see

15:59

Oswego quite a bit. All right, well, you did hear

16:01

the question from Kim. What is the difference between a

16:03

sheriff and a chief of police? You know, I don't

16:05

know all of the differences, but

16:07

I think one for sure difference is

16:09

I believe sheriffs are elected and

16:12

chiefs of police are appointed. Okay.

16:14

That's what I would say.

16:15

And in fact, you did. All right. We've

16:18

got... That's what I

16:20

would say if I were to say this. If you were to say that.

16:22

Yeah. You did it. Thanks. All right, well, we do

16:24

have Mike's answer. We don't know yet if he's entirely

16:26

correct. And if you don't think he got it just right, you

16:28

can seal anything you'd like to add or

16:30

change to that. As a previous drug dealer, I

16:32

cannot have the difference

16:35

between... You got busted a lot

16:37

for those jelly beans. I know, but yeah, I think

16:39

I was probably too high. Yeah.

16:42

No, the difference. So I'm going

16:44

to say that I think that Mike is

16:46

right. And I also just

16:48

want to add a little cinematic flair

16:51

to this. Perhaps a sheriff is in

16:53

the wild west.

16:54

Okay. In

16:57

what west? In the wild, wild west. In the wild, wild

16:59

west. Okay. And perhaps

17:00

what is the other one? Police chief.

17:02

Police chief is in Gotham

17:04

City. Ooh. He's in Gotham City.

17:06

All right. All right. Well, this segment needs to

17:08

be arrested. Let's go to Nicole Thurman at the

17:10

judges' table for the facts. Here are

17:12

the facts. Keeping in mind that local jurisdictions

17:15

can make their own rules, in general,

17:17

a sheriff is employed by a county

17:20

and elected by a citizen. A police

17:22

chief is employed by a city and is appointed.

17:25

That's right. Now there's also marshals

17:27

or law enforcement officers from the federal government,

17:29

but generally a sheriff or police chief will outrank

17:32

them unless there is a federal case involving, say,

17:34

a fugitive. Then the marshal is allowed to call

17:36

for a hard target search of every gas

17:39

station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse,

17:41

and house, outhouse, and doghouse in that area.

17:43

Nicole, how did our guests do?

17:44

Ooh, I like that. I don't know. It just

17:47

felt very powerful. So now I'm into it. Okay.

17:49

So for this round, I'm going to give Mike one point

17:52

because he got that a sheriff is elected and

17:54

a chief of police is appointed. But

17:56

listen, Anna didn't necessarily

17:59

do anything.

17:59

But

18:02

I love the cinematic flair of

18:04

Wild West and the chief of police is Gotham

18:06

So I'm gonna give Anna a point and Mike a point.

18:08

Wow The cinematic

18:10

flair words Yes, yes,

18:13

and by the way you are you are maintaining that score even

18:15

though of course the head of police in Gotham City

18:17

I believe is a commissioner The

18:20

police does that affect

18:22

your scoring at all Nicole? No,

18:25

cuz it was like I like the way she did You

18:27

gotta say it with confidence even if it's wrong see It

18:31

sounds like Mike you'll both be able to work the ref

18:34

as it will If

18:36

you're given the opportunity All right one point each up

18:38

next in cops and robbers is Anna Anna

18:41

while they both might want to avoid Sheriff's and

18:43

police chiefs. What's the difference between a criminal

18:46

and a crook

18:47

a criminal and a crook?

18:49

a criminal

18:51

is someone who is a bit of a Mastermind

18:53

who does this regularly?

19:05

There's that cinematic flair we've come to

19:07

expect

19:07

I feel like this podcast should

19:09

be called go flare yourself

19:10

That'll

19:13

be our spin-off All

19:15

right, we've got an answer. We don't know yet if she's entirely

19:18

correct Mike anything you'd like to add or change Well,

19:20

I'll add this I I don't know if I

19:22

care for you asking the question about criminals to the actual

19:24

criminal sitting next to me Clearly

19:28

she has a depth of knowledge that I'm not gonna contain it

19:30

was just a roll but nevertheless

19:33

But I like her answer and I gotta

19:35

say I sort of agree I think a criminal is someone

19:37

who makes a career of crime Whereas

19:39

a crook is somebody who just wanders into a liquor

19:42

store one day and goes hey I want stuff and then he runs

19:44

away

19:45

and that's fine. Apparently. Yeah,

19:47

you're allowed to do that All right. Well, this segment

19:49

is becoming criminally long. Let's go to Nicole

19:51

Thurman at the judges table for the fact Okay,

19:54

here are the facts a criminal is

19:56

someone who has committed an actual crime.

19:59

It's kind of in the name

19:59

And a crook is someone

20:02

who is generally untrustworthy or

20:04

crooked like a shady used car salesman

20:06

or max boyfriend

20:11

Anyway Anyway

20:18

what they do may not technically

20:21

be a crime, but it is not entirely

20:23

on the up and up.

20:24

That's a crook Oh, yes, that's right Now you can sometimes

20:26

use crook to mean someone who's committed a crime But

20:28

those tend to be crimes of stealing or swindling

20:31

you wouldn't call a murderer for instance a crook

20:33

But you would call them the subject of most documentaries

20:36

on Netflix. Nicole. How did our guests do?

20:38

Okay, so Anna said a criminal

20:40

is a mastermind and he regularly does

20:42

it. I'm gonna say he cuz you know what? I'm just gonna make

20:45

a man a criminal One

20:47

point I'm gonna do it because a mastermind

20:50

regular thing criminal they get convicted

20:52

of it a pickpocket Just kind of like whatever,

20:54

you know, okay for Mike Mike said

20:56

that a criminal does this for like a career

20:59

regular as well And I

21:01

kind of like the way you acted it

21:03

out He's

21:05

learning

21:06

I'm gonna get I'm gonna get him back in

21:08

the game because I I'm gonna give

21:10

Mike half a point on that one And it's not

21:12

I'm not a misindrist. I problem. I like I

21:14

love men men are great But

21:18

the answers are very similar.

21:19

So what's her score at the end of this round ago? How

21:23

does Helen do this? Yeah, so at the end of this

21:25

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21:28

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21:31

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Welcome back to Go Fact Yourself with our

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Once again, he's Jay Keith Van Stratton.

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Thank you so much. Alright

22:51

Mike, of your many interests you told us that you

22:54

know and love the movie Reservoir Dogs,

22:56

the Road Warriors wrestling team, and

22:58

Van Halen. Let's find out a little bit more

23:00

about each of those. First, tell us what it is that you know and

23:03

love about Reservoir Dogs. Reservoir

23:05

Dogs was the first movie I ever walked into a theater

23:07

and saw and thought someone had made it specifically

23:10

for me. The language,

23:12

the verbiage, I like a lot of violence. I

23:14

was so ensnared completely that

23:16

I walked across the street and this is 92,

23:19

I got payphone change. And

23:22

I called my friends in Chicago and

23:24

told them I could not stop talking about it and then

23:26

I went across the street and I watched it again. Wow.

23:30

It was the first movie ever that I felt someone

23:32

like went into my brain and scraped it and made a movie out

23:34

of it. Very cool. Wonderful.

23:37

Alright, and then next tell us what the Road Warriors

23:39

wrestling team means to you. Wrestling is, look,

23:41

I get it, phony, fake, ballet, whatever you want to say and

23:43

that's fine. But it requires athletic skill

23:46

and all this stuff. But I also like a little hate

23:48

in my fight. I like a little violence. I feel

23:50

like a little fight in your fight. Exactly. So the Road

23:53

Warriors were, they were combined weight 500, I

23:55

can still do the intro actually, combined weight 567

24:00

And they were monstrous they were

24:02

muscle dudes and they're based off the movie the road warrior But

24:04

they would wear face paint and shave their hair into crazy things

24:06

and they would just come out and they would absolutely

24:08

beat the Hell out of everybody that they fought they would just

24:11

come in and I knew it was fake I knew it was right

24:13

But it didn't matter because the whole vibe of their costumes

24:15

and the aggression and the music just

24:18

I went every month and would Go see them live and then watch

24:20

them on TV constantly. They were on my walls. It was crazy

24:22

I loved them very much. All right, and then finally tell

24:24

us what Van Halen means to you Van

24:27

Halen was the first band That was mine.

24:30

I grew up on my mom's music. I grew up my model of

24:32

Motown She loved Elvis and so that's

24:34

what I would listen to an AM radio in the 70s. I'm an old

24:36

man And I

24:38

actually discovered a van Halen through Van Halen to I Van

24:41

Halen one didn't enter my life These are albums

24:43

that they exactly Van Halen one is the seminal album It's the

24:45

one that everybody talks about it was it was just landed in 77 and I was only 10

24:49

When I wound up in seventh grade, I wound up hearing

24:51

Van Halen to and the combination

24:53

of Eddie and Dave I and you know Alex on drums

24:55

is amazing Michaels a terrific bass player But

24:57

Eddie Van Halen became a hero of mine. He just was

24:59

I could I can never play an instrument I can play

25:02

like this. I can do air guitar to death, but

25:04

I can't play it. I just didn't have the Wherewithal

25:07

a very small one right at your nose. Well, you know

25:09

what Van Halen is a song called little guitars And

25:11

they play a little tiny one. See there you go And

25:14

it wasn't a dirge. It was poppy

25:17

but fun But also hard and and his

25:19

guitar work is ridiculous and and it

25:22

was a great loss when he died He's just he's a legend

25:24

and he was one of my heroes Yes, he gave you a lot of great

25:26

times. It's absolutely absolutely All

25:28

right. Well to summarize Mike you said that you know and love the

25:31

movie reservoir dogs the road warriors wrestling

25:33

team and Van Halen Today we're gonna quiz

25:35

you about Van Halen Okay

25:40

Have you gotten to see them in concerts over the years?

25:43

I've probably one of the eight times probably and

25:45

I saw them with all three lead singers. I saw him with Gary Sharon

25:47

I saw him with Sammy. I had tickets to see them

25:50

My favorite album of all time is fair warning their

25:52

fourth album And he was angry because they was gonna

25:54

leave the band and it comes through in his guitar playing and

25:56

so I was gonna go We had tickets and that was peak for their powers

25:58

Van Halen. They looked amazing

25:59

And I got grounded and my mom took

26:02

the tickets and went to the show. Oh

26:04

no! Even though it wasn't Elvis or Motown?

26:07

Oh my mom, believe me, my mom like that. She

26:09

knew how to stick it there. Literally,

26:11

the anyone who tours Legend, you can Google it, there's

26:14

an Oakland, clips from Oakland where they just looked,

26:16

they were gods. They were gods. And my mom

26:18

came home that night and she's always amazing. I

26:21

mean, it is one thing to ground the kid

26:23

and take the tickets away. It's another thing to use

26:25

them. Went to the show. And

26:29

she's like, brah! Did it turn her

26:31

into a fan? She was

26:33

on board anyway because my mom likes drugs.

26:36

So she was, you know, any

26:38

gateway band was fine with her. She was into a lot of different

26:40

stuff. I knew a place you could have seen that might have helped with

26:42

that. I wanted to come to my D.A.R.

26:46

All right, well just ahead, we're going

26:48

to enlist the help of a bona fide expert in your topic,

26:50

Mike, with an expert level question worth up to three

26:52

points. But before that, to let you show your love, here

26:55

are five trivia questions about Van Halen, each

26:57

worth one point. If you want it, you're allowed to

26:59

hand 22 of these five questions. Now, Anna, do

27:01

listen closely because if Mike answers incorrectly, you can steal.

27:04

By the way, Anna, how much do you know about Van Halen? Zero.

27:07

Okay!

27:09

Well, it'll be all that more impressive. Did

27:12

you say Van Halen or Van Der Pompey a

27:14

little bit? There you go, there

27:16

you go. Yes, I didn't realize the connection there. Very

27:18

nice. All right, here's question number one. Mike,

27:21

Van Halen is regarded as one of the great American

27:23

hard rock bands, but two of its original

27:25

members, Eddie and Alex Van Halen, are

27:28

not from America. Dun dun dun!

27:31

In what European country, home to many people

27:33

with Van names, were they born? I'm headed

27:37

directly to Half Pointville. Oh.

27:39

Because I know they're Dutch.

27:42

Right. But

27:44

is that Denmark?

27:46

Is that your answer? No, Holland!

27:47

Is that your answer?

27:48

Yes, I'm going to say Holland. Nicole? That

27:51

is correct! That is correct, yeah!

27:54

We also would have accepted the Netherlands. Fun fact,

27:57

I don't know what the difference is between Holland and

27:59

the Netherlands.

27:59

Even though I am of Dutch

28:02

ancestry, and even though we did a What's the

28:04

Different segment about it on episode 42

28:06

of Go Fact Yourself. Here's

28:08

question number two. Van Halen isn't just

28:10

a part of rock history, they're also a part of history

28:13

history. In 1989, when Panamanian

28:16

strongman Manuel Noriega refused

28:18

to surrender to authorities on drug trafficking

28:20

charges, the U.S. Army used psychological

28:23

warfare, blasting loud music at

28:25

his location to encourage compliance. That

28:27

playlist included heavy rotation of

28:29

what appropriately titled Van Halen's song.

28:32

Well, I'm probably gonna have to reach down and tween

28:35

my legs and ease

28:37

the seat back. Panama

28:40

by Van Halen. Nicole? That's correct! That

28:42

is correct, it is Panama. I believe you

28:44

were quoting, you were not too springless if you for

28:46

no reason. Okay, great. Fun fact, other

28:49

songs on the Army's playlist include You

28:51

Shook Me All Night Long by ACDC, Welcome

28:53

to the Jungle by Guns N' Roses, and Never

28:56

Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley. They

28:58

also blasted what has been described as disturbing

29:01

chicken noises. Although

29:04

that might have just been Rick Astley. Here's

29:06

question.

29:07

Here's question number three, you're

29:09

two for two. Mike, Van Halen

29:12

had an astounding five albums hit

29:14

number one on the Billboard 200 charts. But

29:17

which of the following was not one of them? Was

29:20

it for unlawful carnal knowledge 5150, OU812,

29:22

Balance, or Tokyo Dome Live in Concert?

29:25

Tokyo

29:29

Dome Live in Concert is the answer, Nicole.

29:32

That is correct. That is correct. Nice.

29:35

Dead with confidence, no fool in there. That album

29:37

is awful. Oh, okay. It

29:39

was deserved not to be number one. You know, it's funny

29:42

if you listen to it, because I felt

29:44

Van Halen released it to make Dave angry. They

29:48

sound it so terrible later, but it sounds like it made Mike

29:50

angry. It truly did. I was

29:53

looking forward, and then it's just, but I think they almost just put it out

29:55

there like, yeah, you know what, Dave, take that.

29:55

Fun fact, it did hit

29:58

number 20 on the Billboard 200. For

30:00

Unlawful Carnal Knowledge won the band their only

30:02

Grammy Award. The first letters in the words

30:04

of that album title spell a naughty word.

30:08

For Unlawful Carnal... You're

30:12

three for three, Mike. You have your two hints available.

30:15

Here's question number four. Keep them. Eddie

30:20

Van Halen revolutionized rock and roll guitar

30:22

playing with a style that's been described as

30:24

warm, organic, heavy, and powerful.

30:27

What colorful two-word term has

30:29

become synonymous with his signature style?

30:32

I don't know if it was something that people talked about before

30:34

that, but he always referred to it as the

30:36

brown sound. Nicole? That is correct! That

30:38

is correct! Of course, of course! Wow!

30:41

Fun fact, funny that you mentioned, despite

30:44

the common belief that Eddie Van Halen gave this

30:46

description himself in a 2015 interview,

30:49

he clarified that when he talked about a brown

30:51

sound, he was referring to the way his brother

30:53

Alex played the snare drum, quote,

30:55

like he's beating on a log, and

30:58

not his own guitar playing. By the way,

31:00

brown also the color that was famously to be removed

31:02

from backstage bowls of M&Ms, according to

31:04

the band's tour writer. All right,

31:06

you're four for 40, but chance to go five for five. Let's

31:08

do it. You can get this question. I'm excited.

31:10

In a 1997 interview with Howard Stern, David

31:13

Lee Roth revealed that he improvised

31:15

some lyrics while recording what would become

31:17

a big song for Van Halen. Which

31:19

song was it? No,

31:21

no, no, no, no, don't take them off. Don't take them off. Leave them

31:23

on. Leave them on. I like the way the line runs up the back of

31:25

the stocking. That's everybody wants some off

31:27

of women and children first. Nicole? I'm sorry,

31:30

but that's correct. I had to get it. Mike's made it five for

31:32

five! Five for five

31:34

with no hint. Very, very nice.

31:36

And

31:39

he was quoting that song as well!

31:40

Fun fact, Roth said he didn't have lyrics

31:43

prepared for that part of the song, so he just started

31:45

singing about what a couple of women at the studio

31:47

were wearing, which might explain his

31:49

improvised lyrics. I like the way the line

31:51

runs up the back of their stockings. I've always

31:54

liked those kind of high heels too. Pretty

31:57

much just stayed below the

31:59

He was working his way up, but by that

32:02

time the bridge was over. Very,

32:04

very nice job, Mike. You obviously did very well

32:06

in that round, but now here is your expert level

32:09

question that requires multiple answers. It is time

32:11

for your Cluster Fact. Ooh.

32:14

Nice. We'll

32:16

be bringing on an expert to discuss your response.

32:19

Mike, author Greg Renoff's celebrated

32:21

book about the band Van Halen Rising

32:24

investigates their early days and how they

32:26

made their mark with the help of some other well-known

32:28

bands. For up to three points,

32:31

as depicted in that book, before

32:33

becoming Van Halen, what was the first name

32:35

the band performed as, which they changed

32:37

when they discovered a successful British band

32:40

was already using it? Next, what was

32:42

the first headlining band that Van

32:44

Halen opened for on a national tour? And

32:47

what band song You Really Got Me

32:49

did Van Halen cover for their first released

32:51

single? All right. One

32:54

of these is a problem. Finally,

32:57

finally a little bit of a challenge for you. The first

32:59

answer, Mammoth, was the original name of the band. And

33:01

I think the first tour, what we're talking about is they went

33:04

out with Black Sabbath. And Black Sabbath

33:06

had a lot of trouble following them on that tour. And they actually

33:08

had to get off the tour because of it. And then

33:10

third, The You Really Got Me off the first

33:12

album was made famous by the Kings. All

33:15

right. Well, Nicole is taking note of those answers.

33:17

We have an expert on hand who can tell us for sure. Nicole,

33:19

who do we have tonight?

33:20

Joining us tonight via Zoom

33:22

from Tulsa, Oklahoma is the author

33:25

of the celebrated book Van Halen Rising.

33:27

It's Greg Renoff.

33:28

Greg

33:29

Renoff.

33:32

Greg, it's so wonderful to have you here. You

33:34

actually have written two books related to Van Halen.

33:36

Tell us his other book that's out more recently.

33:38

Yeah. I wrote in collaboration with Ted

33:41

Templeman, who is Van Halen's

33:43

longtime producer, produced their first

33:45

six records and then worked with David Lee Roth

33:47

after that and also worked with the Duke Brothers and Little

33:49

Feet. So I collaborated with him on his autobiography.

33:52

I read that book.

33:53

You've got a customer right here. It's terrific. It's

33:55

so great. I really enjoy it. Thank

33:57

you. He basically cited with Dave.

33:59

Dave fires him and then and

34:02

then he has to come I'm sorry go ahead you're it's your second

34:04

shut up I really

34:06

loved it I enjoyed the temple of vagabonds very much. I appreciate

34:08

that thank you uh well uh not

34:10

only are you a biographer you actually have a phd

34:13

in american history you are a doctor

34:15

Renoff joining us tonight um why did

34:17

you want to write a book about van halen and did

34:19

your work in american history help inform

34:22

how you uh wrote and researched that like mike

34:24

uh i saw the 1984 tour and i just fell in love with

34:26

van halen so it was always sort of a passion

34:29

for me and as

34:29

a historian i got really interested in the beginnings

34:32

of the band and talked to a few people in los

34:34

angeles initially who grew up in pasadena

34:36

and talked about the keggers van halen used to have and how

34:39

the cops would come and helicopters would come and it

34:41

sort of snowballed into a book so it really wasn't

34:43

like i had a master plan but yes my my

34:46

historical

34:47

training i guess

34:49

i'm not sure my mentors uh who invested

34:51

a lot of my education aren't thrilled with though you know

34:53

maybe thrilled with that but yes it invested a lot in sort

34:56

of my ability to tell the story and kind of

34:58

connected up their journey from yeah from

35:00

the backyard to patsy and all the way to stadiums by 1978 yeah

35:02

we got enough books about benedict

35:04

arnold and all that we needed a book

35:06

about van halen well i know exactly

35:08

yeah well i know that you agree with mike that you you really see

35:11

van halen as up there with bands like

35:13

the who and and led zeppelin why is

35:15

that that you think they they should be there and that maybe

35:17

they don't get enough credit well i mean if you watched mtv

35:19

in the 80s i mean i think mike's probably

35:22

a little bit older than me but you know if i look

35:24

back at my 80s rock interest

35:26

like all the bands that came out of la that followed van

35:28

halen which really were a lot of them were were never

35:30

i'd say all of them were never as good as van halen but there was very

35:33

much this idea of taking what i would call

35:35

like a pop sound and melding it with heavy metal

35:37

so basically like heavy metal guitar heavy metal

35:39

screams with very like pop songs like

35:41

jump or dance the night away i mean van

35:43

halen basically put the blueprint for that whole

35:46

80s pop metal glam metal

35:48

sound together

35:50

uh mike definitely agrees with that as

35:52

some of our audience here you did a lot of research

35:55

in this book especially in the early days

35:57

what what were what comes to mind when you think about some of the

35:59

surprising discoveries that you made.

36:01

We'll tell you there was a there's a famous story

36:03

of David Ross talking about it. They played a wedding and

36:05

you know, the folks were not familiar

36:08

with their original songs and they played, you know, they would play

36:10

mostly like pop hits of the day, whatever it was on the

36:12

radio, they'd be playing, but they throw in their own songs to

36:14

kind of flip them in. And they someday played somebody

36:16

get me a doctor and David Ross, said there's

36:18

some lady came up and said, you

36:20

play that somebody gets me a Dawson song. I love

36:22

that car. That's my car. Play that Dawson

36:24

song again, you know,

36:26

you know, went along and played their songs.

36:28

And so I always think to

36:31

the one thing that's good about the American dream story

36:33

with the brothers successfully coming to America and

36:35

didn't have a lot of money. And they meet up with this very different

36:37

character and David Lee Ross and those guys, nothing

36:40

was handy to those guys. Nobody sort of said like, Oh,

36:42

you guys should be superstars here. You just you know, let's

36:44

just plug you into a record deal.

36:46

They had to really fight their way in the top.

36:48

You know, you mentioned the brothers, I know that you'd wanted

36:50

the brother to participate in the book. Tell us

36:53

what their response was when you asked.

36:55

You know, it was nothing dramatic. I mean, I

36:57

basically wrote to

37:00

the publicist and you know, I got a very polite, they're not available

37:02

for interviews. And that was that was fine. And the

37:04

interesting thing is that, you know, some years later, I had

37:07

a basically a mutual friend who had a friend, friend

37:09

who had a friend who had a friend who actually was to get to

37:11

visit Eddie's house. This mutual

37:13

friend was talking to her at one point and she said,

37:16

friend, what's your friend's book's name? It's like, they

37:18

inhale around and she goes, Oh, yeah, that book's in the house. And

37:20

so I like to tell people, I don't

37:23

know if they should read or not open, but it survived

37:25

enough to actually make it into the house supposedly

37:27

made it to a bookshop in Eddie's house. So I, you know, I

37:30

consider that to be a major, I mean,

37:32

yeah, that's a five star review in my opinion. Yeah.

37:35

You know, I think it's funny, Eddie said a couple of times

37:37

something along the line, like, you know, why do I need to read a

37:39

book about Van Halen? He just sent any book about Van Halen

37:42

because I lived it, which, you know, which

37:43

makes sense to me. That's pretty much the rock and roll answer.

37:45

Yeah. Lastly, when I asked you, we talked

37:47

about the Netherlands and Holland earlier, you

37:49

actually confronted that, that issue when you

37:52

were writing about them before. Yeah, I don't

37:54

want to offend anybody. But you know, I

37:56

said, and I wrote an article in the LA Times,

37:59

and the after

37:59

I already passed about basically the Pasadena

38:02

story of the Van Halen and I've

38:04

called in the

38:05

Article Holland and then a couple of you know angry people in the comments

38:08

were like it's another lens Or you know I I

38:10

didn't realize you know it's like you step into something you're like

38:12

you know my apologies I you know I know

38:14

if I know but uh yeah, and

38:16

I again. I don't even remember the difference I just sort

38:18

of like you know do we know this I'll

38:21

be I'll be aware of the distinction in the future that was

38:23

kind of where well at least you didn't say Denmark Great

38:31

Mike Mike Mike does the stuff he definitely

38:33

does all right well Let's get to the reason we brought you here as far

38:35

as our game is concerned you heard the questions

38:37

that we asked of Mike first We wanted to know what

38:39

was the first name that Van Halen performed as

38:42

which they later changed when they discovered that a successful

38:44

British band was already using it Nicole.

38:47

What did Mike say

38:48

Mike said mammoth and Doctor

38:50

Mike is correct insofar that the name that preceded

38:53

Van Halen was mammoth, but

38:55

Before they were called mammoth. They actually

38:57

were called Genesis

38:59

And this is a very funny story, which is that the

39:01

brothers were apparently

39:02

with playing a little power trio This

39:05

is before David Lee Roth joined the band They

39:07

calling themselves Genesis And then they went into a record

39:09

store in Pasadena And they were going through the G's

39:11

and they pulled out a record and it was by

39:13

the British Frog band Genesis, and

39:15

they look at each other because I guess we got a record out

39:17

already, huh? So

39:20

then they quickly changed their name to mammoth and that was

39:22

so Genesis is actually the Basically

39:25

the original name for a hill name. Yeah,

39:27

so mammoth was as part of their story, but no point

39:29

there I'm sorry Mike. Yeah, but next

39:31

we wanted to know what was the first headlining band

39:33

that van Halen opened for on a national tour?

39:35

Nicole what did Mike say

39:36

Mike said black Sabbath

39:38

and doctor so Mike is correct in

39:40

June of 1978 in May in June 1978

39:43

through the end of the year they toured with black Sabbath

39:45

But before that the first doctor could we stop

39:47

it Mike is correct?

39:51

Yeah, Mike doing his own editing

39:53

of the show tonight No,

39:56

please continue Greg. Yes, you be

39:58

the prior band

39:59

they opened for was Journey actually. Van Halen's first

40:02

headlining tour was with Journey. This

40:04

is in March 1978. They flew to Chicago

40:07

and they played in the Midwest and

40:10

toured for a while with Journey. Eventually they would tour

40:12

with Black Sabbath, but the first band that actually they

40:14

supported as a headliner was Journey.

40:17

So

40:17

I'm sorry, no point there, but again, Black Sabbath

40:19

was part of their history. You can understand why you thought that.

40:21

Mike, are you okay? Mike, are you with us?

40:25

It hurts me because Mike's a fan. He knows his stuff.

40:28

Whatever, man.

40:30

I bet you wish we had subjective judging

40:33

right

40:33

now. Bring

40:36

in the cool guy. I wrote two books that are awesome.

40:39

What are you telling me? What do you know about

40:41

Van Halen? All right, and then

40:43

finally wanted to know from Mike what band song

40:45

you really got me did Van Halen cover for their

40:47

first release single, Nicole, What Did Mike

40:49

Schmidt Say? Mike Said The Kinks. And

40:51

Dr. Renoff? Mike is correct. Full

40:55

stop.

40:55

Full stop. Mike is correct.

40:58

Wait, is there a butt after

41:00

Mike is correct? No, 100% correct. Greg,

41:04

it's wonderful to have you here, Mike, while we have our expert.

41:06

Anything else you'd like to ask or say to him? Again, I

41:09

can't stress enough how great the Templeman book was that,

41:11

you know, heading, discovering the Doobie Brothers. And I, and also

41:13

I made a Spotify playlist just of the songs

41:15

that he was involved in while reading the book.

41:18

So I could kind of after, when I wasn't reading,

41:20

I could go back and listen to the tunes because I, again,

41:22

I didn't know anything about the guy. All I knew was the Van Halen

41:24

stuff. And then reading your book brought

41:26

me into the Doobie Brothers, brought me into his career as a musician,

41:29

brought that band that played on the boats

41:31

and stuff like that. I mean, just incredible stuff. I

41:34

can't get enough of the Van Halen news, which was terrific, but also

41:36

to learn so much and to realize just

41:38

how much of a hand he had in music history was ridiculous

41:40

for me. And thank you so much for contributing

41:43

to that because I loved the book so much.

41:45

I was really proud of you to say my pleasure. Thank you. Oh,

41:47

that's very, very nice. Yes, I'm

41:49

applauding for The Love, The Mutual of Love.

41:51

We love it. Greg, if people

41:53

want to find out more about you and your work, where

41:55

can they do that? Yeah,

41:56

I'm very active on Twitter.

41:59

All your Van Halen

41:59

and memes, which may be declining

42:02

in significance as we all get older, but I'm going to keep it up,

42:04

at Greg Renoff. So G-R-E-G-R-E-N-O-F-F,

42:08

at Twitter. Excellent.

42:10

Well,

42:10

thank you so much for joining us, Dr.

42:13

Greg Renoff, everybody.

42:18

All right, Nicole, what is our score at the end

42:20

of that round?

42:20

Okay, at the end of that round, Mike Schmidt

42:22

has seven and a half points, and Anna

42:24

Camp has two points, with a round of questions

42:27

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42:29

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42:31

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44:31

Fact Yourself with our guests,

44:32

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44:34

here's Dakey Finn Sultan. Dakey Nicole,

44:37

thank you everybody.

44:39

All right, Anna, of your many interests,

44:41

you told us that you know and love Southern Cuisine,

44:44

the play and movie A Streetcar Named Desire,

44:46

and the TV show Vanderpump Rules.

44:49

Let's find out a little bit more about each of those. First, tell

44:51

us what Southern Cuisine means to you. I

44:53

do like to cook. I'm a big

44:55

fan of Cajun-influenced Southern Cuisine,

44:57

like gumbo and a choufait

45:00

and things like that. My mother

45:02

did not really grow up cooking, so I think that's

45:04

why I like to cook, because we really had

45:06

lean cuisines.

45:08

Shout out to my

45:10

mom, I love you, you're the best. You do

45:12

other things amazingly, like

45:14

cooking, not your forte. All right, Anna, you

45:16

also said that you know and love A Streetcar

45:18

Named Desire.

45:19

I fell in love with all of Tennessee

45:21

Williams plays, Kat and the Hot Tin Roof,

45:23

Summer in Smoke, Glass Menagerie, and another

45:26

one of my favorites. Streetcar was

45:28

just something that spoke to me so, so, so much.

45:31

I actually learned the monologue

45:33

when I was like 16 years old, and

45:36

Blanche is supposed to be in her 30s at the time,

45:39

and I did it in front of my school, and I got

45:41

it made fun of for playing Blanche

45:43

Dubois, like 16, which would be

45:45

back, I probably should not have been doing that.

45:46

I was dealing drugs when you

45:48

were 8. You're

45:51

right, you're right, I was moving forward,

45:53

and I was grabbing rates.

45:55

And then my sister showed

45:57

me like basically all of Vivian Lee's movies.

45:59

And I fell in love with it, and it's

46:02

something that is just near and dear to my heart, and I hope

46:04

to one day play Blanche. It would

46:06

be a dream of mine.

46:07

Very, very nice. Well, you're still far too

46:09

young. Well, I don't

46:11

know about that. I'm

46:14

the 40-year-old woman, and I don't have a podcast.

46:16

That's the 40-year-old

46:18

woman. All right, and then finally, Anna, tell

46:20

us why you chose Vanderpump Rules as a topic you

46:22

know and love. I kind of can't believe that I

46:24

did. But

46:27

I

46:27

did, and you know what? I'm gonna own it. So

46:30

my boyfriend, we call it our brain

46:32

donut. You have his brain donut, and

46:34

I have my brain donut. And

46:37

we're like, what are you doing? I'm just, you

46:38

know, watching my brain donut. And Vanderpump

46:41

Rules happens to be something that I just

46:44

was like, I can't get enough of it. These people

46:46

are crazy.

46:47

You know?

46:49

And like this

46:49

whole scandal thing that happened, I

46:51

was like, how in the world could this woman be cheating on

46:53

that? I mean, it was like blowing my mind that this

46:56

was like actually happening. So yes,

46:58

I'm a fan.

46:58

Very good. We celebrate all love of

47:01

knowledge here without any judgment. All

47:03

right, well, Anna, to summarize, you said that you know and

47:05

love Southern cuisine, the play and movie, A Streetcar

47:07

Named Desire, and the TV show Vanderpump Rules. Today

47:10

we want to quiz you about

47:12

A Streetcar Named Desire.

47:14

Oh, okay. I don't

47:16

know. Let's do it.

47:17

Are there any particularly memorable productions

47:19

of the show that you've gotten to see over the years?

47:21

I did get to see live

47:24

version with, oh, she's since passed.

47:27

Oh, gosh, what is the actress's name? She was Liam Neeson's wife.

47:30

Oh, yeah. Natasha.

47:30

Natasha Richards

47:32

says she was

47:33

so, so, so good. So I saw that on Broadway.

47:35

It was incredible. And I've actually seen the ballet

47:37

as well. Actually here downtown, it

47:39

was at the Amundsen or the Taper

47:42

a few years ago. So I, but

47:44

I just, I love the film. I've seen it so many

47:46

times. I'm obsessed with it.

47:47

I saw, I saw a cool production

47:49

of it. At the Steppenwolf in Chicago, I saw

47:51

Gary Sinise and John C. Riley.

47:53

Oh, I saw John C. Riley. He was in the one

47:55

with Natasha.

47:56

But, but, but Sinise was Stanley and, and

47:59

John C. Riley was... Yeah, it was so good. Well,

48:01

just ahead, we're going to list the help of a bona fide expert

48:04

in your topic, and with a question with up to three

48:06

points. But before that, to let you show your love, here

48:08

are five trivia questions about your topic, each

48:10

worth one point. If you want it, you're allowed to hint for any

48:12

two of these five questions. Don't feel any pressure

48:15

just because Mike did not take any of his

48:17

hints. I need it all, apparently.

48:20

All right, now Mike, do listen closely because if

48:22

Anna answers incorrectly, you can steal. By the way, Mike,

48:25

how much do you know about a streetcar named Desire?

48:27

Did I mention I saw a production of Streetcar named Desire? Oh, no. Oh,

48:29

God. Here we go. You have seen

48:31

it.

48:31

Yes, I have seen it. I'm aware

48:34

of its presence. Okay, well that was... And

48:36

I'm aware of yours now, Mike.

48:38

Oh. No, I was

48:40

the whole time. Okay, very good. All right, here's

48:42

question number one, Anna. One of the clues

48:45

to Streetcar's location is the reference

48:47

to Poor Boy Sandwiches, a staple

48:49

of one of your other categories, Southern cuisine.

48:52

What food rich city, also known for its

48:54

gumbo and beignets, is where the play and

48:56

movie take place?

48:57

That would be New Orleans. That

49:01

is correct.

49:01

Yes, it is correct. I

49:03

love that city. We also would have accepted Nollins.

49:06

I almost had Nollins. All right. Fun

49:08

fact, Poor Boy Sandwiches, better known as

49:11

Po-Boys, were invented to feed striking

49:13

streetcar workers in 1929. Oh,

49:15

I never knew that. It all

49:17

comes back, yes. Actually, and those were replaced, you know what

49:19

they used to feed them before the Poor Boy? What

49:22

was that? The Brain Donut. I don't

49:25

know

49:25

what they'd call that. It's all connected. All

49:28

right, Anna, here's question number two. One of the most famous

49:30

lines in the history of American theater is Blanche's

49:33

final line, when she holds the arm of a

49:35

doctor she just met and says, whoever

49:37

you are, what?

49:38

I've always relied

49:40

on the kindness of strangers.

49:42

Nicole?

49:44

That's almost correct. It's up to you.

49:46

You want to give it to her? Give her half a word? I

49:48

think you should get a whole point. Okay,

49:50

yeah. Only because it's the right answer.

49:53

The answer is actually, I've always depended

49:55

on

49:55

the kindness of strangers. Well,

49:57

you were depending on the kindness of Nicole.

49:59

He's gonna give you the four points. Very

50:02

good. You did not go for the hint. What would that hint have been

50:05

Nicole? Wait, I gotta get this right

50:07

now too. Okay, it rhymes with Blah,

50:09

blah, blah blended on the blindness

50:12

of blangers. Nicole

50:14

Derman everybody. Oh my god. That wasn't

50:16

my best deep south but we were just a little bit panicked. What a

50:18

good hint. Now does Mushmouth from the Cosby Kids

50:20

write all of your questions and hints? Hey,

50:24

Bamanba. Fun

50:29

fact, that line has been referenced by several characters

50:31

in TV sitcoms, including Hawkeye on MASH,

50:35

2D on The Facts of Life, and several characters

50:37

singing the line on perhaps the best episode ever

50:40

of The Simpsons.

50:41

Alright, here's question number three.

50:43

You are two for two.

50:44

Speaking of singing, scholars have commented

50:47

on the musicality of the language in Streetcar, but

50:49

let's not forget about the musicality of the

50:51

music. Tennessee Williams' script specifically

50:54

refers to several songs, but

50:56

which of the following is not one of them? Is

50:59

it It's Only a Paper Moon, From

51:01

the Land of the Sky Blue Water,

51:03

The Louisiana Rag, The Varsuviana

51:07

Polka, or Vin, Vin, Ner,

51:09

The Alain? Oh my god. I know that It's Only

51:11

a Paper

51:12

Moon is in... What

51:19

is the...

51:20

Not the last one. Thank you. Thank you

51:22

for not asking me the last one again. There's The

51:24

Varsuviana Polka. That is also

51:26

referenced.

51:28

So I think I'm going to need

51:30

to use one of my hints.

51:31

Alright, how about that first hint, Nicole? Vin,

51:34

Vin, Ner, The

51:35

Alain is referenced

51:37

in the script. Oh, okay. So the

51:39

Louisiana... Is it The Louisiana

51:42

Rag is not?

51:43

Nicole? That is correct. That is

51:45

correct. Excellent use of

51:45

the hint.

51:48

Very nice. One of the characters does also

51:50

sing from The Land of the Sky Blue Water. And

51:53

of course there's that polka scene as you mentioned. Fun

51:55

fact, Vin, Vin, Ner, The Alain.

51:58

Who knows if I'm pronouncing that correctly.

51:59

It translates as, Vienna Vienna,

52:02

just you alone. Also,

52:04

bonus on facts, I thought I made up the Louisiana

52:06

Rag. It turns out it's one of the very first published

52:08

ragtime songs dating back to 1897. Oh,

52:12

nice. So I'm either a bad maker-upper

52:14

or an accidental knower of things. Is

52:16

there a

52:17

way we can play it now?

52:18

I don't know if we can get the rights

52:20

to that song from... I gotta get it. I don't know if the copyright

52:23

it. They keep extending it over the years. But

52:26

we'll leave that for our listeners to discover. Alright, Anna,

52:28

you're three for three. You only have one hint available over

52:30

these next two questions. Played by actors

52:32

such as Karl Malden, Philip Bosco, and

52:35

the aforementioned John C. Reilly. The

52:37

character of Mitch plays a pivotal role

52:39

in the story. But Mitch is a nickname

52:41

for the character whose actual first and

52:43

last name is what?

52:46

Mitch's full real

52:48

name is Harold Mitchell.

52:50

Nicole? That is correct. That is correct. Very

52:52

nice.

52:55

Great job. Fun fact, Karl Malden

52:57

won an Oscar for playing Harold Mitchell. One

53:00

of three acting Oscars the film won.

53:02

The others being Best Actress for Vivian Leigh and

53:04

Best Supporting Actress for Kim Hunter. Marlon

53:07

Brando was nominated but lost to Humphrey Bogart

53:09

in The African Queen. By the way, that was the first

53:11

time that a movie had ever won three acting

53:14

Oscars. It just happened again this year though with

53:16

everything everywhere all at once. Alright,

53:18

you have a chance to go five for five as well, Anna

53:21

Camp. Here's question number five. The

53:23

famous play inspired a famous movie

53:25

which inspired a famous painting. Commissioned

53:28

by Hollywood producer David O. Selznick,

53:31

the painting is by Thomas Hart Benton and

53:33

is in the Whitney Museum. What is it

53:35

called?

53:35

I know what the painting is and I'm

53:38

going to say...

53:39

I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess. Should I use my

53:41

hand? I think I'm just going to try to guess. I think

53:44

it's called Poker Night.

53:45

Nicole? That is correct. That is correct.

53:48

Anna Camp is also five for five.

53:51

What a game we have tonight. Fun

53:54

fact, the Poker Night was once the working

53:56

title of a street car named Desire. It

53:58

was sort of the genesis. of a mammoth of its time.

54:02

How dare you. According

54:05

to the Whitney, the painting documents one of the story's

54:07

most dramatic and memorable moments when Blanche

54:09

taunts a drunk and angry Stanley with her

54:12

petty provocations and refined airs.

54:15

I love refined airs. Those are my favorite kind of airs. I

54:18

love a refined air as long as it's not humid. I

54:22

think that's what the AC does, it refines new air. All

54:25

right, Anna, you obviously did very well in your topic,

54:27

but now here's your expert level question that requires

54:29

multiple answers. It is time for your cluster

54:32

fact. Ooh. We'll

54:34

be bringing on an expert to discuss your response.

54:37

Anna, according to the internet Broadway database,

54:39

since its original production, Streetcar

54:42

has been revived on Broadway eight times.

54:45

Name all of them. No, I'm

54:46

kidding. Oh my god,

54:48

a fail.

54:48

I wouldn't do it. The most recent

54:51

revival, directed by Emily Mann in 2012,

54:54

was notable for many things, including a

54:56

cast made entirely of people of color,

54:58

two of whom were making their Broadway debuts.

55:01

For up to three points, who made his Broadway

55:03

debut in the role of Stanley Kowalski?

55:06

What role was played by Broadway newcomer

55:08

Nicole Ari Parker? And what

55:11

role was played by Broadway veteran Daphne

55:13

Ruben Vega? Oh

55:14

my gosh. I'm unfamiliar with this

55:16

production, unfortunately. But I'm going

55:18

to guess here. I would say that

55:21

Daphne played Blanche. Nicole,

55:24

she played Mstella. And

55:26

then I do not know the answer to the

55:28

first question. Would you like to just guess an

55:30

actor of color who might have made his debut in Stanley

55:32

Kowalski? debut?

55:33

That's the thing. I don't know if it's a Broadway

55:35

debut. That's the thing. I

55:37

don't know.

55:38

No name on that. OK, no worries. Well, Nicole

55:41

is taking note of your answers. We have an expert on

55:43

hand that can tell us for sure. In fact, we have two.

55:45

Nicole, who do we have tonight?

55:46

Joining us tonight via Zoom from New Haven,

55:49

Connecticut and New York City are

55:51

the director of the 2012 revival of

55:54

A Streetcar Named Desire and one

55:56

of the stars. It's Emily Mann

55:58

and Daphne Ruben-Vey.

56:00

All

56:03

right, I see Emily and I see Daphne! Hello!

56:09

Very impressive,

56:10

Anna, your knowledge of the play.

56:13

Thank you. Thank you so much.

56:16

For those who were not familiar, Emily

56:18

here spent 30 years as the Artistic

56:20

Director and Resident Playwright of the McCarter

56:22

Theatre Center, has two Tony nominations,

56:25

a Peabody Award, is a Guggenheim Fellow

56:28

and is inducted into the Theatre Hall of Fame.

56:31

Hell yeah! Whereas

56:33

Daphne Ruben Vega has had a wonderful

56:35

career as a recording artist, been on TV and in

56:37

movies such as In the Heights, Wild Things,

56:39

Jack Goes Boating, also has been nominated

56:41

for two Tony Awards, and has been on Broadway

56:44

in shows like Les Miserables, The Rocky Horror

56:46

Show, and originated the role of Mimi

56:48

in Rent. Wow! What

56:50

a pleasure to have both of you joining us tonight.

56:52

Thanks. It's great to be

56:55

here. Now, Streetcar wasn't the first time that you'd

56:57

worked together on Broadway. Tell

56:59

us about the previous show that you had both been on.

57:01

We did Anna in the Tropics by

57:03

Nilo

57:03

Cruz. He was a prize-winning

57:06

play. I directed it and

57:08

Daphne got her first Tony nomination.

57:10

Wasn't

57:11

it the first? It was the second, but...

57:16

Don't you hate it when you have so many Tony nominations? You

57:18

can't keep track of which one it is. One

57:21

is for a musical and one is for a play.

57:23

So this was the play. You

57:26

also will be working together on another

57:29

Tennessee Williams play. That's exciting to find

57:31

out about. Daphne, why don't you tell us about that? Emily

57:33

and I will be beginning

57:35

rehearsals for Night of the Iguana

57:38

at Signature Theatre. Oh!

57:41

Very, very cool. Thank you. Thank

57:43

you, Anna. Emily,

57:45

you actually got to know Tennessee Williams

57:48

personally. Tell us about how that happened and

57:50

what that experience was like.

57:52

I was very young.

57:54

My first main stage

57:56

production in the major theatre was at

57:58

the Guthrie Theatre in Mary Minneapolis.

58:01

And it was 1979,

58:03

actually,

58:05

a long time ago, just

58:07

a few years before Tennessee died. Tennessee

58:10

called me and asked me to direct

58:12

what

58:13

would have was his

58:15

neither of us knew it at the time was his last play.

58:18

Wow. And when we got together,

58:20

we fell into each other's arms.

58:23

And he said, you must do this with me.

58:25

And I said, but Tennessee, I,

58:28

I think it needs a lot

58:29

of work. How to help?

58:32

What was it like giving Tennessee

58:34

Williams notes? Exactly.

58:37

It's amazing to say I turned down

58:40

Tennessee. Wow.

58:40

And he

58:44

kept saying,

58:44

Oh, but you'll just come down to Key West

58:46

and we'll wake up every morning

58:49

and work and I knew

58:51

all about what went on down in Key West.

58:53

Ready?

58:56

Wow. Well, I didn't do it.

58:58

Well, Emily, spoiler work, it worked out okay for

59:00

you. It did work out okay.

59:02

And

59:02

so many years after

59:05

directing almost every one of his plays.

59:07

So I've made it up to him,

59:09

I think,

59:10

I would say, you know, a spiritual

59:12

level. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's talk about Streetcar.

59:14

We had heard Anna talk about how that's a dream role for

59:16

her to show that she's known and loved for a long time.

59:19

Daphne, was it the same for you? Is it something that you had

59:21

been invested in before you had the opportunity

59:23

to play the role?

59:25

I loved it. It was fantastic.

59:27

I mean, I always, there's always

59:29

this undercurrent about Stella

59:32

being weak and submissive.

59:35

I can see how you would say that.

59:38

I don't think that I did that.

59:40

I didn't make

59:41

the choices.

59:42

The

59:46

play is so wonderful that you can really

59:48

take it and own it and sink your teeth

59:50

in it and just really

59:53

explore what humanity

59:55

is. It is Tennessee

59:58

Williams.

59:58

Yeah, I read you. I read that

59:59

you said that the strength that you gave

1:00:02

in that role you really took from the family relationships

1:00:04

that were in the script.

1:00:06

Well, yes. I mean, sisters

1:00:10

and dysfunction, I'm all

1:00:12

in.

1:00:13

You're all in? I

1:00:15

hear Tennessee Williams is good for that. I don't

1:00:17

have sisters, but I definitely know about

1:00:19

dysfunction. Emily, how

1:00:21

was it that you came to end up directing

1:00:24

this show and why was it that you wanted to

1:00:26

put together this ensemble of color?

1:00:28

I had spoken to Tennessee about it, actually.

1:00:31

I know the culture of New Orleans

1:00:33

really well, and it's the Creole City and

1:00:35

it's what Tennessee wrote. And so he

1:00:38

clearly was looking at cast and color

1:00:40

in how he built the play. And

1:00:43

once you know that

1:00:46

very fair skinned black people

1:00:48

were also owners

1:00:50

of plantations and they were a French

1:00:52

extraction from many layers

1:00:55

of slavery. And since there's a

1:00:57

lot of color and colorism

1:01:00

and cast consciousness in the

1:01:02

black community, I thought it would

1:01:04

be very interesting if one

1:01:07

of the sisters

1:01:09

that Stan Lee was too dark

1:01:11

for that family.

1:01:12

And that's why they had a resentment.

1:01:15

Yeah. Yeah. Daphne, I read that there was

1:01:17

a memorable interaction that you had during

1:01:19

one of the shows with an audience member. Can

1:01:21

you tell us about that?

1:01:22

What happened this one particular

1:01:26

evening was someone was

1:01:28

taking pictures in the front row and

1:01:30

it was like front row, very unapologetic,

1:01:33

the red light. I

1:01:36

squatted by the edge

1:01:37

of the stage and put

1:01:40

my arm out and just wiggled

1:01:42

my fingers until he

1:01:44

handed the phone to me, which

1:01:46

I found quite remarkable.

1:01:47

Yeah. And I

1:01:50

took the phone and put it in the drawer. And

1:01:54

it was like... So you didn't feel it was right to ad

1:01:56

lib. Now what is this futuristic divide? I

1:02:00

mean, it's just that. Oh,

1:02:04

ma. No, but

1:02:06

I kind of incorporated the

1:02:08

physical

1:02:09

language of I see.

1:02:11

Yeah, that's what it was the intensity

1:02:13

that you brought that you already had with that role. Well,

1:02:15

let's talk about what you two are up to

1:02:17

now. I know, Emily, you're currently working on an

1:02:20

adaptation of The Pianist, which people

1:02:22

are familiar with the Oscar-winning movie, but of course

1:02:24

it's based on a memoir that you're

1:02:26

adapting. And I saw you say that you

1:02:28

said it's the most important story I've ever been

1:02:30

entrusted with as a theater maker. That

1:02:33

is quite a statement for the long career that you've had. Why do you

1:02:35

feel that way?

1:02:36

Well, I guess for me it's

1:02:39

with the rise of anti-Semitism, racism,

1:02:42

fascism all around the world

1:02:45

again, and certainly in this country,

1:02:47

that it's a very urgent story to be

1:02:50

telling right now.

1:02:52

My family was wiped out, murdered

1:02:54

in Poland, both in

1:02:57

the Warsaw ghetto, Treblinka

1:02:59

and

1:03:00

in a small town. And it's my

1:03:03

way of honoring them and

1:03:05

telling their story that they can't tell.

1:03:08

Wonderful.

1:03:12

One of the things that you do have upcoming is

1:03:14

you're going on your first Broadway cruise. Tell

1:03:16

us what that's going to be like and what you expect

1:03:18

to happen.

1:03:19

We're going to go to the Cayman Islands and

1:03:21

Key West, so speaking of Tennessee,

1:03:24

you know? Yeah.

1:03:26

So, I mean, what could go wrong?

1:03:28

When are

1:03:30

you doing this? In March, 2020.

1:03:34

Very cool. I mean, it's hurricane season,

1:03:36

so I'm... Well,

1:03:38

Daphne, tell us about some of the other actors who are going to be on there.

1:03:41

And this is a cruise that, of course, people who are fans of Broadway can

1:03:43

join and watch you guys perform.

1:03:44

Philippa Hsu, Stephen Pasquale,

1:03:47

Eva Noblesada, Gavin

1:03:50

Creidle, Christian Boro,

1:03:53

and so many others that I hate myself

1:03:55

for not being able to

1:03:58

say them all at once.

1:03:59

It sounds spectacular. Well, let's

1:04:02

get to the reason we brought you both here as far as our game

1:04:04

is concerned. You heard the question that we asked of Anna.

1:04:07

First, we wanted to know who made his Broadway debut

1:04:09

in that 2012 production of A Streetcar

1:04:11

Named Desire as Stanley Kowalski. I

1:04:13

know that we did not have an answer from Anna

1:04:15

on that, but we now know what is the correct answer.

1:04:18

Blair Underwood.

1:04:19

Blair Underwood made

1:04:20

his Broadway debut. And

1:04:24

Daphne, you were telling me when we talked this week, you didn't realize

1:04:26

it that way, says Broadway debut.

1:04:28

No, no, but I have seen him subsequently.

1:04:30

Ah, okay, excellent.

1:04:33

Well, I'm glad we did not offend Blair Underwood

1:04:35

or anyone of his community. So

1:04:38

I'm sorry, no point there. Next, you wanted to know what role

1:04:40

was played by Broadway newcomer Nicole Ari

1:04:42

Parker. Nicole, what did Anna

1:04:44

say?

1:04:45

Anna said Stella.

1:04:46

And Daphne?

1:04:48

I played Stella. She played Stella. Yes,

1:04:51

it was a 50-50 shot, but unfortunately you did get

1:04:53

them mixed up, so no there. And finally, the suspense

1:04:56

is killing all of us. What role was played by

1:04:58

Broadway veteran Daphne Rubin Vega? Nicole,

1:05:00

what did Anna say? Anna said Blyant Strong. And

1:05:02

who was it? It was me. It was you and

1:05:04

Stella. I'm sorry,

1:05:07

no point there, but still a wonderful excuse

1:05:09

to talk to these two legends. Anna, while

1:05:12

we have our experts here, anything you'd like to say or ask

1:05:14

of them?

1:05:14

First of all, I just want to say thank

1:05:17

you so much. And I'm blown away

1:05:19

that you guys are here and

1:05:21

even talking with me

1:05:23

and us all about the street car. So

1:05:25

thank you, thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

1:05:27

And I'm very glad that you picked a street car named Desire

1:05:30

to be my topic. I

1:05:32

guess I have the same

1:05:34

question for both of you. Daphne,

1:05:37

what was your most favorite scene

1:05:40

to play from a street

1:05:42

car? And Emily, what was your most

1:05:44

favorite scene to direct?

1:05:46

Daphne?

1:05:47

Yeah, I like the dinner scene.

1:05:51

Of course, I love the coming down the

1:05:54

stairs and the Stella. That

1:05:57

was wonderful. But I was so...

1:05:59

surprisingly moved

1:06:01

by the last line in the play.

1:06:05

Every night I would,

1:06:07

yeah, it was always special.

1:06:10

And Emily what about yourself? And we're hoping

1:06:12

that you choose a scene that Daphne was in.

1:06:21

You know, people

1:06:24

say, what's your favorite piece?

1:06:26

I like to Daphne on this play.

1:06:29

Each and every moment

1:06:31

builds so extraordinarily.

1:06:35

I mean as a director, I was

1:06:37

able

1:06:38

to bring my own look

1:06:41

at it with this particular group

1:06:43

of actors.

1:06:43

Yeah. Well you've definitely given us a lot to think

1:06:45

about. We thank you both so much for joining us. I'll

1:06:47

start with Emily, if people want to find out more about you and

1:06:50

what you're up to, where can they do that?

1:06:51

Daphne and I are at Signature.

1:06:53

In fact,

1:06:55

I'm sure we've been announced

1:06:57

yet.

1:06:58

Oh, we're breaking news here on the podcast.

1:07:01

We may be announcing right

1:07:03

now. Anyway, it was going to open on December

1:07:05

7th. Excellent. Wonderful.

1:07:07

And Daphne, where can people find what you're up to? Nowhere.

1:07:10

Okay. I'm on strike, honey. Okay.

1:07:14

We're certainly happy that you joined us today. Emily Mann

1:07:16

and Daphne Ruben-Dega everybody. What

1:07:18

a treat. Thank you so much. Thank

1:07:21

you all so much. Hope you had a great time. All

1:07:24

right, Nicole, what is our score as we go

1:07:26

into the final round?

1:07:27

As we go into the final round,

1:07:29

Mike Schmidt has seven and a half points

1:07:31

and Anna has seven. Oh,

1:07:34

very close game. Not bad. But

1:07:36

now

1:07:36

it is time for our final round. We call

1:07:38

fast facts. I'll read 10 statements

1:07:40

and each contestant will answer with true or

1:07:42

false. I'll start with Mike and alternate between each

1:07:45

guest. Each correct answer is worth one

1:07:47

point. Again, please answer each statement with true

1:07:49

or false. Here we begin. Mike,

1:07:52

your last name is Schmidt.

1:07:54

Yes, true. Correct. Anna,

1:07:57

your last name is Tamp. True. We

1:07:59

got a tight game.

1:07:59

Alrighty. Mike, there is a U.S.

1:08:02

military base in Kuwait named Camp

1:08:04

Schmitz.

1:08:05

Correct. Anna, there

1:08:07

is a U.S. military base in the United States

1:08:09

named Camp Schmitz. True. Incorrect.

1:08:13

Mike, there is a juvenile prison in Montana

1:08:15

named Camp Schmitz. True.

1:08:17

Incorrect. Anna, there is an outdoor

1:08:19

education center in Maryland named Camp

1:08:21

Schmitz. True. Correct. Yes. Officially

1:08:24

it is the William S. Schmitz Outdoor Education

1:08:26

Center. It is known as Camp Schmitz. Mike,

1:08:28

a major focus of that Camp Schmitz program

1:08:31

is the overnight visit for fifth graders. False.

1:08:33

Incorrect. No, don't take that

1:08:35

away from them, Mike. Anna,

1:08:38

the Camp Schmitz fifth grade overnight trip

1:08:40

includes a campfire. True. That's true.

1:08:42

Or incorrect. That's

1:08:43

correct. Oh, it is correct. That's

1:08:45

correct.

1:08:46

Sorry. Two words I have to say at once. I

1:08:48

know.

1:08:48

Mike,

1:08:51

the Camp Schmitz fifth grade overnight trip includes

1:08:53

a wagon ride. True. Correct. Anna,

1:08:55

the Camp Schmitz fifth grade overnight trip includes

1:08:57

chaperones. True.

1:09:00

Correct. Mike, all chaperones must

1:09:02

be fingerprinted before the trip. True.

1:09:05

Incorrect. Anna, all chaperones

1:09:07

must complete a full background check before

1:09:09

the trip. True. Correct. Mike, you don't

1:09:11

want to know the reason why. True.

1:09:14

Correct. Let's give

1:09:15

Anna Camp and Mike Schmit a nice hand as Nicole

1:09:19

tabulates the final score. We're not going to count those

1:09:21

last few. All right, Nicole, are

1:09:23

you ready to announce the winner on tonight's episode?

1:09:26

I'm ready.

1:09:26

And this is a very close one. So

1:09:29

at the end of the game, Mike

1:09:31

Schmitz has 10 and a half points and Anna

1:09:34

Camp has 11 points.

1:09:35

Well, congratulations, Anna Camp.

1:09:38

You are the Faxing Champion on

1:09:40

a very close game of Go Fax Yourself. Anna,

1:09:43

what will you do with your championship?

1:09:44

With my championship, I would...

1:09:47

I'm going to Disneyland. She's

1:09:49

going to

1:09:50

Disneyland. Very, very nice. All

1:09:52

right, we want to give everyone here on the panel

1:09:54

a chance to mention or promote anything upcoming

1:09:57

that people might want to see or hear. Mike, where should

1:09:59

people find what you're up to?

1:09:59

I have the 40-year-old boy podcast.

1:10:01

It's available where all finer podcasts

1:10:03

are found. It's free And also

1:10:05

I have a twitch channel twitch.tv slash the 40 year

1:10:08

old boy You can also find my youtube channel at youtube.com

1:10:10

slash the 40 year old boy Twitching all the time playing

1:10:12

video games chatting eating weird chips and the

1:10:15

YouTube is Basically the archive of the podcast

1:10:17

the podcast comes out every week. Like I said, it's wherever you get

1:10:19

your best podcast

1:10:20

Thanks so much for joining us on this podcast

1:10:22

Mike Schmidt We finally

1:10:23

did it! Third time's the charm! Anna

1:10:28

Camp, where can people find what you're up to? Well,

1:10:30

I am an actor and I'm also on strike But

1:10:33

I did produce and star in

1:10:35

a short film that has no

1:10:37

ties to any streamers or anything

1:10:40

At all, we raised the money from the ground

1:10:42

up and we just got accepted into the Montana

1:10:45

Film Festival

1:10:46

Woo! And

1:10:49

it's called Neo Dome and hopefully

1:10:52

it'll be at a film festival near you

1:10:54

We're so glad that you are near

1:10:56

us tonight Anna Camp

1:10:59

By the way, I went to an early screening of Neo

1:11:01

Dome it's really really cool I recommend it Thank

1:11:03

you so much for coming

1:11:05

Mike you wanted to add something? Well, I was just gonna ask if that was premiering

1:11:07

at Camp Schmidt Oh! True

1:11:14

Ladies and gentlemen, my hosting partner tonight

1:11:16

has been the outstanding Nicole Thurman

1:11:18

wonderful job Thank you.

1:11:20

Where can people find what you're up to? You

1:11:22

can find me on Twitter and Instagram

1:11:24

at Nicole Thurman Nicole Tussies Thank

1:11:27

you so much for being here Nicole Thurman And

1:11:30

me you can find me on Twitter at J underscore

1:11:32

Keith on the other socials at jkeith.net All

1:11:35

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1:11:37

Anna Camp Gregory Renoff Emily Mills

1:11:40

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