Marrie Stone talks with novelist Attica Locke, author of Bluebird, Bluebird, about capturing a familiar place from a distance, her decision to break her own rule and write about a cop, inhabiting uncomfortable points of view, and how her book became a much different book in the age of Donal Trump (even though she never changed a word).

In the second half, Janet Buttenweiser joins to talk about her memoir Guts. In addition to sharing her personal story, Janet talks about crafting a compelling narrative from life events, the emotional distance required to write objectively, finding the metaphors in real-life events, and much more.

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(Broadcast date: January 31, 2018)