Why are there so many narcisstic leaders in churches? Why do so many churches cover up scandal? Wade Mullen is an expert on crisis management in Christian organizations, and one of the ONLY people in the world who has actual research about the problem. There is a five minute run in this podcast that might be the most important moment on this podcast series so far. I really hope you listen.

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