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Vienvenidos, benevolent

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benefactors bent on

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Benjamins, Benge and

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Benelux. This

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is Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and off-beat

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trivia podcast. This is episode 249.

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And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen,

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and we are your cordial quarter

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men courting cordyceps in

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corduroy.

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I'm Colin. I'm Chris. Getting

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the cordyceps in there? Yeah, yeah, yes. Yes,

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the Last of Us show based

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on the Last of Us video game. Just

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to give everybody a very blanket

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summary. They're

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zombies. And the reason for

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these zombies is because of a, instead

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of virus attack, it's a fungal

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attack. Cordyceps is an actual

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real existing fungus in

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this world. It starts infecting humans.

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And we talked about this before in previous episodes of Good Job

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Brain. And we talked about like, yeah, the

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zombie ants. Oh, right, right,

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right. Funny thing about cordyceps, in

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traditional Chinese medicine, cordyceps

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is a prized ingredient and

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people eat it.

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And it's expensive and it's

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good for you. All right, let's jump into

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our first general trivia segment. Pop

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quiz, hot shot. Here

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we have, again, Baby Boomer

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edition. Baby Boomer

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edition. And Trivial

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Pursuit, totally 80s. Totally

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80s. We're gonna kill it. We're gonna kill it. Here

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we go. Which one should we do first?

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Let's do 80s. All right, get your barnyard

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buzzers ready. Here we go.

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Blue Wedge for TV. What

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TV series provided James

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Brolin with gainful employment

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from 1980.

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23 to 1988. Colin.

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I believe that show was called Hotel.

2:08

Correct. I've never heard of the show

2:10

before. One down, let's go.

2:12

James Brolin is Josh Brolin's

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dad, right? Correct. Yeah, that's right. You

2:16

have to understand that Colin

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is totally 80s. I

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am some 80s and some 90s. Me

2:27

and Chris are partially 80s. Exactly,

2:29

yes. the partially 80s edition. Pink

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Wedge, what did Reg

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Morris blow 31 feet

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from his mouth to set a new world

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record in 1986?

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Sorry. Let

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me just read it more naturally. When

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I don't pre-read, I don't know where to

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break. What did

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Reg Morris, a person named Reg Morris,

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blow 31 feet from

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his mouth to set a new world record

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in 1986.

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Okay, ready? Chris.

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Bubblegum. Incorrect. What? Collid.

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A sunflower seed. It is fire. Oh.

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Stream of fire. I guess 31

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feet would be a little large for a bubble. 31 feet

3:18

was pretty dang impressive for fire. Fire.

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A yellow wedge for HL.

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What retailer unleashed the Discover

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card in 1985? Ooh.

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Huh. Huh. I

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didn't know they were connected. All right, ready? Chris.

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I have a guess. Go ahead, Chris. Ready?

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Sears. I like it. Correct! Yeah, I

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like it. Yep. What is it, 85? What's

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the one store everybody buys everything

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at? Totally. I did not know

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that that Sears was connected with the history

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of Discover.

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Yeah. Sears

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is no longer with us, right? The store?

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I mean... Oh, it's still hanging on.

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Okay, okay. A little. wedge

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for music. What did he thanks

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to vocals by his daughter Moon Unit was

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Frank Zappa's biggest selling single?

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Was that Valley Girl?

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Correct. Yeah.

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Correct. Lime Green Wedge

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for movie. What 1980 dud

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starring the Village People won the inaugural

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Razzie Award

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for Worst Picture.

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Oh man. That's a good one. Starring

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the Village People. So the village people had

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a movie vehicle, I guess. Apparently.

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Yeah. Is it YMCA?

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Probably not, right? No, no, no, no. It is. Can't

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stop the music. Hmm. And

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it turns out you in fact can get

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in its tracks.

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All

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right. Last wedge in totally 80s. Orange

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wedge, sports and leisure. Which

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a L West said,

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Al West, Al West. That's a name. I

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was like, why is the L big? What?

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Which, which a L West baseball

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team found ways to lose 893 games

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during the eighties.

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What? Say

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it again. Which a L

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West baseball team found ways

5:18

to lose 893 games during the eighties. Oh

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my gosh. Well, it seems like it's like

5:25

on purpose, Colin. Oh, interesting.

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Well, this is where the baseball heads are going to hate me,

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because I can never keep AL and NL straight.

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But I remember the Mariners were historically

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bad in the 80s. Is it the Mariners? You

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are correct. The Seattle Mariners. Okay.

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All

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right, here we go, baby boomer. Let's

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do this. Let's bring

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on the pain. Blue Edge for TV.

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What TV show's theme song was

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Keep Your Eye on the Sparrow? Keep

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Your Eye on the Sparrow.

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Ready? The

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answer is... Beretta's. Or

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Beretta Beretta. OK, I

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would not have had any idea. Pink wedge. What

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was the name of Elvis Presley's backup

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singers? Oh, oh,

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was it

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with a C? It's with a C. No,

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it's not with the C. I'm going to be so mad. He's

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trying to do a cold reading. I don't know.

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Yeah. CDFG.

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It

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is the Jordan Nares. Uh,

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okay. Jordan Nair Jordan

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Ayers. Yellow Edge. Who secretly

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traveled to Pay King? Wow,

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this is an old card. Who

6:39

secretly traveled to Pay King to

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set the stage for Richard Nixon's China

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trip?

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Colin. It's

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got to be Henry Kissinger. It is

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Henry Kissinger. I would have

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guessed Big Bird. Do you guys remember

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Big Bird Goes to China? I do remember. Oh,

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I remember. Yeah. Yeah. That was a big

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deal. It was a big deal. Brown

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Wedge for publications, who

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with Richard Nixon was

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named Times Man of the Year for 1972.

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With Richard Nixon. Colin.

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Is it Henry Kessinger? It's Henry. What?

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I'm so mad but I... What? Really? Yeah.

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You remember like there was a time where trivia pursuit

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cards, it's all fiend. Because

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you're not supposed to read every exactly. Yeah,

7:28

to be fair. This

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is not how you're supposed to play Yeah,

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how we play Green

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web for literature what visitors to

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his home did Elvis Presley

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tell Look, if you're

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just going to sit there and stare at me all night.

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I'm going to bed

7:46

Chris Richard Nixon and Henry

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I'm fixing to. Correct. Going

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for it. Really?

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Uh, Colin. I feel

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like I've heard the story. Is that the Beatles? It

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is the Beatles. It is the Beatles. Mm. Wow.

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But last question for records

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RPM. What child star's picture

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appeared on the cover of the Sergeant

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Pepper album?

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Oh. Colin.

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Is it Shirley Temple? It

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is Shirley Temple. Yeah. All

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right, good job. Not bad, baby boomer,

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not bad. So

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today's episode, we have a theme. Our

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theme is bones.

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I got some weird stuff. Hopefully you guys have prepared

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some weird stuff. Yes. So

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this week, make no bones about

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it.

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["Make No Bones About It"] Bones.

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All right, I'm gonna read you some poetry.

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It's poetry time. Here we go. four

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line bit of poetry here for you

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all. Good

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friend for Jesus sake

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for bear to dig the

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dust and close it here. Blessed

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be the man that spares these stones

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and cursed be he that

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moves my bones. Oh.

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Quiz on whose grave

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site would you find those words? Oh!

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Hmm.

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A poet. No,

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it is a poet. It is certainly

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a poet.

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It is pretty goth. Good friend for

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Jesus sake for bear to dig the dust

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and close it here. Blessed be the

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man that spares these stones and

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cursed be he

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that moves my bones. It

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is a plaque that is sitting right on

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top of the dead body of

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Sir William Shakespeare. Oh!

9:54

Ah, he is buried under

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a stone slab that is in the-

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Holy Trinity Church in

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Stratford-upon-Avon. That was his local

10:05

church that he would go to. In fact, William

10:07

Shakespeare paid, you can't just get buried in this

10:09

church. Like

10:12

inside the church under the floor. He

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had to pay them, he paid them 440 pounds to

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have the privilege of being buried

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inside the church. It was prime placement.

10:23

I was like, oh, 440 pounds, probably

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a lot for somebody in those days. But when did Shakespeare

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die? Oh, the year 1616,

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how much would that be worth

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today? In dollars, it's $125,000. Wow.

10:37

The equivalent of 125K that he gave to the church for

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the privilege of being buried inside

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this church. He was apparently worried that

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somebody was gonna go messing

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around with his bones. That

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got me thinking about grave robbing, or not

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doing it, but just like, thinking

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about it for purposes of this show,

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are there famous instances

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of that actually happening of well-known people's

11:06

graves being robbed, either

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because

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people thought something valuable was down there,

11:11

or they just wanted to steal some famous bones,

11:14

or some kind of weird

11:15

whatever. And anyway, yes,

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yeah, there were a couple of really interesting stories.

11:21

Here is a segment all about

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famous people's graves getting robbed.

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Two big stories, two big stories.

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Charlie Chaplin, comedian,

11:31

star of the silent film age

11:34

in the 1920s and the 1930s, and

11:36

then of course had a lengthy career after

11:38

that. Charlie Chaplin actually lived quite

11:40

a while. He died in 1977. He

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was 88 years old. Yeah,

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and he was buried in Switzerland

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near Lake Geneva.

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And two months after

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he was buried, two

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guys dug up his body. Oh my God,

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it's not even fully decomposed yet. out

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and. and

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took the coffin, took it out of

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the grave. And they sent a ransom

12:04

demand of $600,000 to

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Charlie Chaplin's widow to

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get the body back. That is so

12:13

nerve. They had dug up the

12:15

grave and they took the whole coffin

12:18

out of the ground

12:19

and dragged it along the ground. You

12:21

know, when people showed by the grave site, there's

12:24

a whole track. There's tracks

12:26

leading away, the whole thing. So

12:29

this was treated at the time as a pretty

12:31

big case. The police in

12:33

the area, it was a big scandal. The

12:35

robbers kept placing phone

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calls to Chaplin's widow.

12:41

And so the cops decided we're gonna monitor

12:44

the phone booths in

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the local area

12:47

to see if they can catch somebody

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using one of the phone booths to make

12:52

the call. That's how they caught the guys

12:54

because they eventually caught one making

12:56

a call, a ransom

12:58

demand call. They had made upwards

13:00

of like 60 calls to

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try to get the ransom. So they finally got

13:05

one. They're

13:06

questioning him and basically said, this is

13:08

the best part of this whole thing. Their

13:10

plan originally was

13:13

actually not to steal the coffin but

13:16

to go there, dig it out, dig

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the hole deeper,

13:21

put the coffin back in

13:24

and then cover it with dirt

13:26

but leave the hole so they

13:28

could ransom the coffin, but they wouldn't actually

13:31

have Charlie Chaplin's veins on

13:33

them. It would actually steal some

13:35

real Oceans 11 type like, oh,

13:39

it was actually still there. The

13:41

last place you looked for it, it was in the grave

13:43

just deeper. Except the problem is

13:46

they hadn't thought the plan out very well. They

13:48

got there, they got the coffin out and they couldn't dig any further

13:51

basically. So they had to go

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to plan B, which was, oh, I guess, We'll

13:56

just take it. So nothing got Charlie

13:58

Chaplin's coffin. They

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didn't plan on this. They led the police

14:02

to a local cornfield about a mile

14:04

away and that's where they had reburied the

14:07

coffee. Okay, okay, it's not like in a

14:09

house, like in their apartment. The

14:11

weekend at Bernie's. So

14:14

they put them back in the ground

14:16

and they put a whole bunch of concrete

14:19

over him so nobody can go and

14:22

try to take it out again. This is

14:24

not even the second story. I started looking up famous

14:26

grave robberies and it's all

14:29

mostly it's like famous failed

14:32

grave robbery. The people that decide.

14:34

People don't know what they're doing. They

14:36

don't know what they're doing. And even just thinking

14:38

about it, it's like, what are you hoping to get

14:40

out of this? You have to have, you have

14:43

to be a little bit disconnected

14:45

from reality to try this.

14:47

Somebody tried to rob

14:50

and failed the grave

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of Benny Hill. Benny Hill. Whoa,

14:55

why? Of

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course, we're all thinking the same thing. We're

15:01

all thinking of the Yakety Sax playing. Yakety

15:03

Sax is playing, yes.

15:05

They left

15:07

it in disarray and left before

15:09

they were able to get in there, basically.

15:11

Yep, exactly. So anyway,

15:14

here's another funny story for you.

15:15

In the year 1875, there

15:18

was a guy who his name was Benjamin

15:20

Boyd. And Benjamin Boyd

15:23

at the time was incarcerated

15:25

for counterfeiting money,

15:27

counterfeiting

15:28

United States currency. Benjamin

15:31

Boyd was a very skilled engraver.

15:34

He had learned engraving from his father. He

15:36

was incredibly good at engraving and

15:38

he put those skills to work

15:40

engraving

15:41

plates to make counterfeit money. Okay.

15:44

And they were fantastic. For

15:46

years, he and his wife would

15:49

basically go from town

15:51

to town under assumed names,

15:54

printing fake money. They

15:56

get all that fake counterfeit money out

15:58

there and then they.

16:00

and then they'd skip town and

16:02

they'd go do it again. So

16:04

they finally caught up to Benjamin Boyd in 1875.

16:08

And by they caught up to him, I mean, the

16:10

Secret Service. Right. The

16:13

Secret Service, which had only just

16:15

been established a few years prior, with

16:17

the mission of fighting

16:19

counterfeiting money. That was the initial

16:22

job of the Secret Service, was fighting the

16:24

rampant counterfeit currency That

16:28

was all over the United States post-Civil

16:30

War.

16:31

So the Secret Service gets

16:33

Benjamin Boyd and they catch him in

16:36

Fulton, Illinois, okay? Important

16:38

where they got him. In 1875, he was

16:40

put in jail, and

16:42

this was not good for his counterfeiting ring

16:44

because he was the master engraver. What

16:47

good is a ring of counterfeiters when you don't have

16:49

anybody to make the counterfeit money? So

16:51

the gang comes up

16:53

with a genius plan

16:56

to get Benjamin Boyd

16:58

out of jail. And

17:00

the plan is to steal

17:03

the body of, that's right,

17:06

President Abraham Lincoln.

17:08

So

17:11

Abraham Lincoln is dead. He,

17:14

as you know. Notably. Famously

17:18

unalived. 10 years

17:22

prior on April 15th, 1865, right?

17:27

And he was entombed

17:30

in Springfield, Illinois. All

17:32

right? Benjamin Boyd currently

17:34

locked up in the state of Illinois. Now

17:36

Lincoln's tomb, which you can visit

17:38

today, is actually a fairly elaborate kind

17:40

of piece

17:41

of architecture. It's got an obelisk,

17:43

it's got statues all over it. And

17:45

then there's an above ground, tomb, it's above

17:47

ground room where you can walk into

17:50

when there's decorations

17:52

inside and stuff like that.

17:54

In the central room, the tomb was completed

17:56

in 1874, so about nine years

17:58

after he died. And initially- the

18:00

weekends remains were in a sarcophagus

18:02

in the center of their room so

18:04

the gang figures you know go

18:06

in there at night steel lincoln's

18:09

corpse and

18:09

we will again the plan as no

18:12

ransom it to the state of illinois

18:14

and are demand will be yes

18:16

release benjamin boy from prison

18:19

on my and you'll see a mac

18:21

yes i i don't want to call

18:23

people dumb too much on the show but these people

18:25

are very dumb the armor they

18:28

will respect the state of illinois release

18:30

beds been boy from custody they will hand

18:32

over president lincoln and everybody

18:34

will go there's like a little a swipe the here

18:37

gotta yeah yeah you for know you first

18:39

in terms of actually being

18:41

able like physically to pull this off it

18:43

it wasn't that difficult because the so

18:46

first of all the lincoln's to miss like miles

18:48

out of town it's

18:49

the lady you hundreds there's no no security

18:51

guard working there is no camera

18:54

right a he's a hair traveling by her who

18:56

gets there's a there's a lock on the door

18:59

like that's that's about it they

19:00

get to that the get the barrier room that of a sarcophagus

19:03

is the sarcophagus apparently was sealed

19:06

but it wasn't really sealed that well so

19:08

i mean you could you could get the top off so

19:10

the the only thing i

19:13

mean first of all this plan was obviously doomed

19:16

but like he hit me the thing that

19:18

really doomed it and this is really unfortunate

19:20

is that when they assembled the crew for the highest

19:23

they

19:23

brought along a guy named louis swindles

19:26

in welfare of the rebels louis

19:29

swags louis so i goals

19:31

told them that

19:32

he had grave robbing experience

19:34

on his resume fi

19:38

plot in actuality

19:41

who who was bagels was an informant

19:43

for the secret service ah

19:48

i'm guessing he probably was already trying

19:50

to get close to these guys because they were counterfeiters

19:54

but now he gets to go tell the secret service

19:56

that they're planning to kidnap the president's

19:58

body so i know So,

20:00

they picked that number seven, election

20:02

day 1876. They picked that

20:04

because they figured it would be even more,

20:06

people would be even less paying

20:08

attention to them, right?

20:09

Election day 1876, they go down there. The

20:13

secret service has been tipped off

20:15

and they've got detectives from

20:17

the Pinkerton detective agency.

20:19

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They've hired some guys. They're

20:22

like circling the tomb. They're just waiting

20:24

for these guys to basically go in and

20:26

be caught in flagrante delicto,

20:30

with Lincoln's corpse basically, so they can charge

20:32

them. So they go in, they file off

20:34

the padlock, no problem. They walk in, there's

20:36

the sarcophagus with Lincoln's remains. They open

20:38

up the top. Then they realize that

20:40

there's a coffin inside the

20:43

sarcophagus and it weighs like 500 pounds. And

20:46

they are like, they're trying to like get

20:48

it out of there basically. My

20:51

understanding is that Louis Swegles was

20:54

the one who told them that there was gonna

20:56

be a truck to put it in, but then

20:58

there was no truck. So they weren't even gonna get

21:00

it out of there. Before they can

21:02

come up with plan B, before anything had happened,

21:05

outside one of the detectives his firearm

21:07

accidentally goes off. Oh no. Before

21:11

they can go in and get the guys, the firearm goes

21:14

off, everybody hears the gunshot. They

21:17

blow out of Lincoln's tomb, no

21:19

Lincoln and they just bolt and they leave.

21:21

By

21:22

the way, the funny thing here,

21:24

I mean, it's all very funny. The other

21:27

funny thing is that the Secret Service

21:29

had actually been established by Abraham

21:32

Lincoln.

21:32

And in fact, Abraham

21:35

Lincoln signed the document that

21:38

established the Secret Service

21:40

on April 14, 1865, the

21:45

day that he was shot. Yeah,

21:47

on his ass. It was like one of his last official

21:49

things that he did as president. Yeah.

21:51

Was to sign it, signed it,

21:54

created the secret service and the Secret

21:56

Service then 10 years later

21:59

ends up.

22:00

stopping his grave from getting

22:02

robbed.

22:03

How about that? One way or the other. Yeah,

22:05

inadvertently. It's a snake eating its own tail. Right,

22:08

yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, I digress.

22:11

Criminals bail out, ditch the coffin. The detectives,

22:14

there's a lot of them there. They all split up to find the criminals.

22:16

At one point, the detectives end up shooting at

22:18

each other. Because they

22:21

can't see, they don't know who's who. No, of course

22:23

they knew who these guys were. So they end

22:25

up catching up with them a couple of days later and

22:27

they arrest them. Now the story gets even more ridiculous

22:30

because

22:30

it's a scandal that these guys

22:33

had tried to rob Lincoln's grave, everybody knows

22:35

about it. The country is scandalized,

22:37

these guys would even do that. You're like, you know,

22:39

charge them.

22:40

So grave robbing in

22:43

Illinois in 1876, not illegal.

22:49

There is no law that says

22:51

that you cannot take a body

22:53

out of a grave. So they

22:56

could not charge them with that because

22:58

it was not a crime.

23:00

So the charge that they laid

23:02

on, the two guys that they got was that

23:04

they quote, did unlawfully

23:08

and feloniously attempt

23:10

to steal, take and carry

23:13

away certain personal

23:15

goods and property to

23:17

wit

23:18

one casket. They

23:21

were charged with attempted theft

23:24

of Lincoln's casket. The Paskett. Paskett.

23:27

Yep. And misdemeanor

23:30

lock filing. Yeah.

23:34

They were quickly found guilty at trial. They

23:37

each did a year of hard labor. Oh

23:39

my God. But it was just a year. Benjamin

23:42

Boyd not released from prison.

23:44

Yeah. And Lincoln, yeah, unfortunately

23:47

he did have to seek it after serve at

23:49

his time in prison. The plan did not work.

23:53

And Lincoln, Lincoln is actually

23:55

now, he was moved

23:57

around a little bit because they were like, oh, jeez.

24:00

Somebody could just come in here and just

24:01

take him out. What are we gonna do? So

24:04

eventually, after a while, they

24:06

actually buried him underneath

24:09

the tomb. Again,

24:12

much like Charlie Chaplin covered

24:14

in concrete. They just have to, like that's

24:16

our solution, right? Yeah, just deeper

24:19

down, more concrete. So it's

24:21

still sort of ceremonial above ground

24:23

there. Above ground, yes. There's still the quote unquote

24:26

burial room inside, but nobody, so

24:28

nobody is inside the burial room and

24:31

Lincoln is buried, Lincoln is not buried in Lincoln's

24:33

tomb, he is buried underneath Lincoln's tomb.

24:37

Now you might be wondering,

24:38

what about old Willie Shakes from

24:41

before? You know, he was worried about

24:43

grave robbers, you know, he did all he

24:45

could to prevent it. Did the cursed

24:48

poetry and six figure grave

24:50

placement, did that ward off grave

24:52

robbers? Well,

24:54

for 400 years or so, it certainly

24:56

did seem so until 2016.

25:00

So in the year 2016,

25:02

scientists went to the Holy Trinity

25:04

Church, Stratford upon Avana, used

25:06

ground penetrating radar

25:09

to see what was there. Because

25:11

the thing

25:11

is, nobody wanted to dig the

25:13

grave up because of the pole. Because of the pole.

25:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't want to get cursed,

25:17

the church is like, no. People

25:19

were, over the years, people were like, oh, we

25:21

should look in there. Church is like, nope, nope, nope,

25:23

nobody touches it. No, absolutely not. Ground

25:26

penetrating radar, they look in there and

25:28

they find that number one, the graves are pretty shallow.

25:30

They only dug a meter under there. So I mean,

25:32

they're not like super deep. It's not a vault or anything

25:35

like that. The bones are just

25:37

like a meter underneath the stone

25:39

floor of the church.

25:41

The bodies were there, the remains were there.

25:44

And unfortunately, William Shakespeare's

25:47

body missing its skull.

25:50

Oh. So

25:53

at some point it seems likely

25:55

that somebody did in fact mess

25:57

with Shakespeare's bones, got cursed

25:59

and.

26:00

Stole Shakespeare, so Shakespeare's skull

26:02

is missing. So check around your house.

26:04

If you have it or see

26:06

it, they want that back. What

26:09

a quest. Right? Like

26:11

National Treasure, you know, like free-yay-yay-yay

26:13

kind of thing, right? That's a tradition. Well, the thing is,

26:15

back in the day, I didn't look too closely

26:18

into this, but apparently somebody

26:20

wrote back in the day, like a quote unquote

26:23

fictional story about like stealing Shakespeare's

26:25

skull, that people are now looking

26:28

at a little bit more askance. like,

26:30

wait a minute, did you actually,

26:32

did you do it? This

26:34

isn't like, if I did it, this is like, did

26:37

you do it? Did you take the skull?

26:38

Wow. I'm just like, right? Someone

26:41

for some period of time knew

26:44

where Shakespeare's skull was. Like that's

26:46

what that means. It's like someone took that secret

26:49

to their grave and like maybe

26:52

that became like

26:52

a little- Maybe they'll find a skeleton

26:55

with two heads. Right, right,

26:57

right, right. Can you imagine the experts

26:59

doing the radar imaging

27:02

and then they're like scanning from the foot up,

27:04

they're like, dee

27:05

dee dee dee dee. And then like, oh no.

27:09

The neck is like, ah, ah, ah.

27:12

Yeah, the operator's like, we start

27:14

from the foot because it's the most dramatic that way. Yeah.

27:20

All right, well, I have a quick quiz

27:22

here, specifically more

27:24

about bones. I got some bone

27:27

superlatives.

27:28

Super bones.

27:31

Quick lightning round. So get your

27:34

barnyard buzzers out. I'm

27:37

gonna name the superlative. You tell

27:39

me which bone. Here we go. Largest

27:41

bone.

27:42

Oh. Chris.

27:45

Tibia. Incorrect. Ooh.

27:48

Colin. Femur? Femur.

27:51

Oh, yes, femur. Femur. Yeah, yeah,

27:53

yeah. The top three biggest bones all

27:55

the leg bones

27:56

but humor is not only

27:58

the largest. heaviest on

28:00

average and strongest. Tell

28:04

me, what is the smallest bone? Oh,

28:08

oh, Colin, it's it's it's

28:10

in the ear. And is

28:13

it is it the hammer, the stapee?

28:16

I'm going to say the the stapes.

28:16

Correct.

28:19

It is stapes, the stirrup.

28:22

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Actually called stirrup.

28:25

What is the only bone

28:27

not connected to another

28:29

bone? Oh, wow.

28:31

You guys all know this, Chris. It's the hyoid

28:34

bone. Hyoid. Yeah. Oi.

28:37

H Y O I D. It's

28:40

described as the base of your tongue, but really it's

28:42

located kind of like where your tonsils

28:44

are on the upper part of your neck, where your

28:47

chin meets the neck. And

28:49

it's called the floating bone because it's not connected

28:51

to any bone. It's just held there by

28:54

my muscles

28:55

and ligaments. Yes, I heard it described

28:57

as like a piece of fruit in a jello

29:00

mold, basically. Ha ha ha. Yeah,

29:02

imagine that. Ha ha ha ha. Hihoid.

29:05

Hihoid, and

29:09

it does, like for humans, it helps

29:11

us talk. Like we wouldn't be able to talk

29:13

and stuff like that without it.

29:15

Did you read about hihoids

29:17

in woodpeckers? When they're smashing

29:19

their face into a tree, The

29:22

hyoid bone actually

29:25

absorbs most of the shock and

29:27

sends it away from the brain. Interesting.

29:31

It's like a mass damper, like in tall

29:34

buildings maybe. Yeah, birds are weird, birds

29:36

are weird.

29:36

Experts say that that's the least

29:39

likely bone to ever get broken.

29:41

That's right, yep. Because it's like the fruit

29:43

in the gel moat. However, I imagine

29:46

when it is broken, it's usually from like strangulation.

29:50

for some dry air. Right.

29:52

All right. Tell me, which bone

29:54

is the weakest bone?

29:56

Ooh. The

29:59

weekend Chris. Chris.

30:01

The one in your pinky

30:04

toe. Incorrect, Colin. Like

30:07

the ribs, a rib.

30:09

It is the collar bone, the

30:11

clavicle bone. Oh, okay,

30:13

sure, all right. Yeah, part of the reason, it's

30:15

thin, it goes across. Yeah.

30:18

Doesn't have a lot of padding

30:20

on top of it, yeah. So, bones

30:23

can repair themselves to

30:26

some extent. You can't really regenerate

30:28

fully. except for

30:30

what kind of bone? What?

30:33

You

30:36

know, like organs, you can't, your body's

30:38

not just gonna grow a new lung, right? Right,

30:40

right, right. But you could grow.

30:43

Is she looking for teeth, Chris? Just

30:45

what one kind of bone? What kind

30:47

of bone? There are several of this type of bone,

30:50

but. Oh, interesting. The

30:52

answer is biblically

30:55

poetic. It is rib bone.

30:57

Really? rib bone even

31:00

with large parts of it destroyed like

31:02

can regenerate. Really? All

31:05

right, last question.

31:07

The giant of Castelnow

31:09

refers to three bone fragments discovered

31:11

in 1890. The

31:17

bones may belong to one of the largest

31:20

humans known to have existed.

31:23

on the bone size,

31:25

it has been estimated that the human

31:28

may have been how tall.

31:30

OK,

31:32

all right. Give me a guess closest to

31:34

Chris. Yeah, nine

31:36

feet tall. I'll say eight

31:39

feet. Eleven feet,

31:41

six inches. Wow. Well,

31:44

good job, everybody. Owning

31:46

up on bone trivia. Nice. Alright,

31:49

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31:51

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33:53

You guys know I am a big board

33:55

game fan. And I love

33:58

dice games, old school.

34:00

of dice games, Yahtzee among them.

34:02

Yes. Like that. Chris and I used to play Yahtzee

34:04

all the time. Right. Yeah. Just

34:07

a classic game. You have

34:09

all heard the phrase, I'm sure, when you're playing the

34:11

dice games, my friends and I, we say it. It's

34:14

like it's one of those things, you start off saying it and you're serious.

34:16

And then you start saying it as a riff. And then you

34:18

start saying it because you all know it's so dumb,

34:21

but you don't want to stop. It's like, roll

34:23

them bones. And so

34:26

it just becomes like almost a game now. Like

34:28

who's not going to be the one to say roll them bones

34:31

when you're playing with the dice? Now,

34:34

I mean, this is no big secret.

34:35

You guys probably knew this as

34:37

well. But I had heard the

34:40

ancestor of modern dice really

34:42

were bones.

34:43

Like that's where the saying

34:46

roll the bones comes from. It

34:49

sounds too good to be true. It's too

34:51

convenient. Like it makes me skeptical.

34:53

It is absolutely 100% true that

34:56

there have been dice made from bone

34:59

historically, as well as

35:01

ceramics and glass and rocks

35:03

and wood and any

35:05

other substance that you could... Oh, ivory. Ivory,

35:09

indeed. But really,

35:12

the earliest example of

35:14

a item that people would roll

35:17

and throw either

35:18

for a game playing, but also

35:21

divination, fortune telling,

35:24

was animal bones. It really

35:26

was little animal bones. Well, so have

35:28

you guys heard of knuckle bones? Pretty

35:30

common name for a family

35:33

of games that kind of includes

35:35

dice and jacks as

35:37

well. But it really was

35:40

historically used with animal,

35:42

loosely knuckle bones, specifically

35:45

a bone called a a talus

35:47

bone of mainly hooved

35:50

animals and historically

35:52

a very common animal,

35:54

be either a sheep or a goat. They are

35:57

relatively flat.

38:00

They're Russian soldiers who

38:02

were kind of stationed there with really

38:04

not too much to do turned probably

38:07

a little bit of inspiration from Shagai,

38:10

which they would have known and seen from Mongolian

38:13

peoples there, right there. And they turned

38:15

these inspirations into a game that used

38:17

horse ankle bones.

38:20

The ankle bone of a horse as

38:23

you can, is big, it's big, but

38:26

they found that talus bones, you

38:28

could prop it up right. I mean, this is a little

38:30

grim. They apparently

38:32

had no shortage of horse ankle

38:34

bones out in Northern

38:36

Siberia there. I mean, it's a harsh, I

38:38

suppose, life. So they had enough horse ankle

38:41

bones that they could turn this into

38:43

a game. They'd stack them up instead of wooden

38:45

dowels or duck pins or whatever.

38:47

And you toss another

38:50

bone to try and knock over

38:52

the stick. So it's a very

38:54

sort of gruesome goth version of

38:58

skittles, essentially.

38:59

From there, this impromptu,

39:04

you know, hard-scrabble soldier's life

39:06

game kind of spread. Bunnock,

39:09

at some point, was introduced

39:11

to Canada in the

39:14

early twentieth century.

39:15

It seems by

39:19

Russian-German immigrants,

39:21

in particular, pockets of these

39:24

immigrants settled in Saskatchewan.

39:27

In Saskatchewan, Bunnock

39:29

developed as sort of just a

39:32

popular local game.

39:36

A lot of farms there, so

39:38

they had horses and where you got

39:40

horses, you're going to have horse ankle bones,

39:43

you know, if you wait long enough.

39:46

There was a very particular

39:47

movement that grew around Maclin, Saskatchewan.

39:51

Now, Maclin, Saskatchewan is

39:53

not a large place. In 2021,

39:57

the Canadian census listed.

41:59

to realize this

42:01

game is growing so fast that

42:04

the ivory, he

42:06

was starting to get concerned.

42:08

It's scale. It does. It didn't scale.

42:10

That's right. And they had rapidly

42:12

made improvements to a lot of the other technology.

42:14

The cues have gotten better. The bumpers

42:17

have gotten better. The special

42:19

bays and the material on the table have

42:21

gotten better, but not the balls

42:23

really. So to be blunt, I think

42:25

he was doing this for capitalist reasons. I don't necessarily

42:28

think he was crying about the elephants. He

42:31

advertised a bounty

42:33

or a reward of $10,000. Okay, this is an

42:36

1863 for a

42:38

suitable replacement for

42:41

ivory pool balls, money and

42:44

necessity of the mother of invention. So this opened the

42:46

door to a man named John

42:48

Wesley Hyatt and his

42:50

brother. He decided, I'm

42:52

going to be the one I'm going to

42:55

break through and build the world a better

42:58

Billiard Ball. And ultimately what he struck

43:00

on was using a mixture of

43:02

nitrocellulose. And we've talked about nitrocellulose

43:05

before, and we'll come back to this in a second. So working

43:07

with his brother, they took what had been kind of a weakness

43:10

of nitrocellulose up to that point. They mixed it with some

43:12

camphor, camphor oil, and

43:14

it basically made the substance easier to

43:16

work with, but also would harden the way he wanted

43:18

it to. So this new composition,

43:21

he and his brother named the substance,

43:23

they coined the term

43:24

celluloid. Now, Chris,

43:27

you talked on the show a few episodes back about

43:30

celluloid. And you want to give us maybe just

43:32

sort of the five second summary

43:35

of what was the big takeaway from

43:37

celluloid. Celluloid was

43:39

used for old film prints and it

43:41

was incredibly volatile and

43:45

it would just randomly explode.

43:47

Yeah, yeah. So it

43:49

was a success. It was a business success. Reviews

43:52

were a little mixed of the ball at first, but

43:54

I mean, people don't like change, But it really was

43:57

a very, very, very

43:59

good substitute.

44:00

to

44:00

much more sustainable than slaughtering

44:03

hundreds and thousands of elephants to make these balls.

44:06

There were some drawbacks to the celluloid

44:09

balls. He said a

44:10

lighted cigar applied

44:14

would at once result in a serious

44:16

flame and occasionally

44:19

the violent contact of the balls would

44:21

produce a mild explosion.

44:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:27

But it's like in a pool hall. Yeah.

44:30

People are smoking cigars. I mean, yeah.

44:33

Even if you're not, the balls are gonna knock together

44:35

even if you're not sending them off. The

44:38

whole point of this game is to drive

44:40

the balls violently into other balls.

44:43

You

44:43

cannot play this game and not

44:46

have that happen. Also, it's celluloid,

44:48

which they, I mean, they could put the balls away

44:51

and leave them on the shelf and then they

44:53

could simply spontaneously combust.

44:55

Yeah, exactly. That's right, that's right.

44:58

He said he received

45:00

quote, a letter from a billiard

45:02

saloon proprietor in Colorado mentioning

45:05

this fact and saying that he did not care so much

45:07

about it, but that instantly every man

45:09

in the room pulled a gun.

45:11

So this is the other problem. I mean,

45:13

Karen is on the other side of the fancy

45:15

scale with the cigar holders is you're out in the frontier

45:18

town and every person in this

45:20

saloon has a gun on them when they were in a splotch.

45:24

So he and his brother, they established the

45:27

Albany Billiard Ball Company, smashing

45:30

success for over a hundred years.

45:32

It was one of our first plastics.

45:35

It was one of our first just

45:37

easily manufactured, widely manufactured

45:39

plastics, despite some of these drawbacks

45:41

like it, you know, blowing off or

45:43

catching fire. I can't believe people were okay with all

45:45

of this. I mean, I guess they have a better option, but

45:47

still it's like movie theaters, cash

45:50

and fire, pool halls. So

45:52

celluloid itself was a hit. They made a

45:54

lot of money. It eventually, even

45:57

billiard balls, moved on to other materials. believe

45:59

that regard and

46:00

you know, advanced other plastics and

46:02

ceramic mixtures and things like that. I've read in

46:04

a couple places, I really hope this is true.

46:06

There is one

46:08

piece of recreational

46:10

equipment that is still made of celluloid

46:13

today. It's

46:15

safe celluloid, it's not gonna blow up on you. Do you

46:17

guys know what it is? You guys know what it is?

46:20

It's a ping pong balls,

46:23

ping pong balls. No! Yeah,

46:25

yeah, one of the very few that is

46:28

widely available. Today. Today.

46:31

So, yeah, I had, I definitely, the bones took

46:34

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46:36

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I got our last quiz.

47:39

Last season we talked about Learned League. Neville

47:42

was the guest on our show and we were

47:44

trying to convince

47:45

everybody else on the show, Chris and Colin, to

47:47

join Learned League. And I'm happy

47:49

to report I did pretty good

47:51

this past season.

47:53

I won my league. I

47:55

was first place out of 30s. Yeah,

47:58

Karen, now I get to move.

48:00

up kind of like British soccer. You've

48:02

been promoted. And it's not because I'm

48:04

that great. It was just really a what

48:06

I call a slumdog league. A lot

48:08

of questions that I knew the answers to I was like

48:10

able to suss out. There was this question. I'm gonna

48:13

read the question.

48:14

A multicolored tri-pipped

48:17

bone would oddly but

48:19

accurately describe the logo for

48:21

what American company founded

48:24

in Michigan in 1960.

48:28

Now, in my head when I was

48:30

reading this question, I was like, okay, okay, there's a lot

48:33

of different parts. Let's work it out. Say

48:36

multicolored, tri-pipped bone. Okay,

48:38

I was thinking about like a dog bone. I was

48:40

like, what are the pits? Are the pips like, you know, like,

48:42

like suits on a playing card? Three

48:45

bone or three, you know, three thing

48:47

bone. It's kind of weird. And I was like, okay,

48:49

American company founded in Michigan. Okay,

48:51

what's a what's an industry city in Michigan?

48:54

So go get Detroit. Oh, cars, it's

48:56

gonna be like something car related. And that

48:58

was like, okay, what car company logo

49:01

has like bones and like

49:03

three things in it. Thought about this

49:05

for like a whole day and I was like, Oh, what is it? I was

49:08

like, okay, well, what other things? Okay, Detroit.

49:10

Well, Detroit is known for like pizza.

49:11

And then it was one

49:14

quick thought. I was like, Oh,

49:19

a tri-pipped three

49:21

dotted bone as in

49:24

a tile, a gaming tile or

49:26

a dice or a

49:28

Domino. And I was

49:30

really happy to arrive at this answer because

49:32

it was the correct one. Domino's

49:35

Pizza. Domino's Pizza.

49:38

Why the name?

49:39

Why the logo?

49:41

Did the founders like to play Domino's?

49:44

Was someone's name Domino? That's

49:46

the connection between the pizza

49:48

and then the Domino game. So

49:51

the Monaghan Brothers, founders of Domino's

49:54

Pizza, they took over a local pizzeria

49:57

called Domonix

49:58

after the

50:01

original owner whose name was

50:03

Dominic. So, Tom

50:05

Monaghan, one of the brothers, he

50:08

then bought two more pizza shops

50:10

and wanted to call all three of them Dominics.

50:13

It makes sense, right? It's kind of like

50:15

a brand. However, the original

50:17

owner Dominic,

50:19

he was like, no, the original store is called

50:21

Dominics. You can name the

50:22

new two stores Dominics as well. So

50:25

then an employee suggested,

50:27

hey, why don't you rename

50:29

it

50:30

Domino's? It's reminiscent

50:32

of Dominics, but it's not exactly

50:34

Dominics. And that's how the

50:37

name came to be. Nothing to do with

50:39

the game, just because it sounded

50:41

similar to the

50:42

original name of the pizzeria. And

50:45

this is why in the logo, there

50:48

are three dots for

50:50

the three locations. When we talked

50:52

about this, I think, Chris, in

50:54

a very old quiz of yours, where the original

50:56

idea was they're going to add a

50:59

dot

50:59

for every

51:01

franchise location. They

51:03

were thinking too small, like you're capping

51:05

yourself at like 12 stores,

51:08

right? The highest number of dots

51:10

you can have on a Domino's. Yeah. They're

51:12

like filling in that 12th one. They're like, ah, now

51:14

we're done. Yeah. This

51:17

was 1960 until now, Domino's has been

51:19

making pizza, delivering pizza

51:22

and non-adjacent items

51:24

for over 60 years in 84

51:28

countries.

51:29

So question, in 2007, Domino's collaborated

51:35

with what sweet treat brand

51:38

to debut a dessert pizza

51:41

that sadly failed miserably?

51:43

Oh, can you remember this? Colin,

51:47

was it Oreos? It

51:49

was Oreo. It was the Oreo

51:52

pizza. Literally

51:54

it is a normal pizza crust

51:57

with crushed up Oreos on

51:59

top. And the sauce

52:01

is the white frosting. Oh my

52:03

goodness. People hated

52:06

it. It's too sweet. It's

52:10

something a toddler would come up with and think, he's

52:13

just like, oh, he's just like, cookie pizza.

52:16

I was

52:16

reading some market survey and market

52:18

research. In the US, people don't

52:20

really want dessert pizza. It's like they don't

52:22

really equate pizzas as a dessert, but

52:25

other countries

52:26

do. Yes. So

52:28

in the Ukraine, they have what's called

52:31

Domino's pies. And

52:33

it is the

52:34

pizza crust, they put like poppy

52:36

seed filling, and then they

52:38

put a beautiful lattice, like

52:40

a dough lattice on top, and

52:43

they bake it. So it's like, it is like

52:45

a pie shape instead of crust. It's like bread.

52:47

It's like a babka,

52:48

but not swirled around, right? It actually

52:51

sounds good. Yeah, yeah. It looks

52:53

beautiful and people love it. The

52:55

Domino's pie is in Ukraine. And then in the

52:57

UK, they have something called the Lata

53:00

Chaka Pizza, which is pizza crust.

53:02

And they just melt milk chocolate in the center.

53:04

And people are like, this is exquisite.

53:07

It's delicious. Question

53:10

time.

53:11

During the claymation craze of

53:14

the 1980s, totally

53:16

80s, Domino's had this unusual

53:18

mascot. What was its name?

53:21

And what was its deal, Colin?

53:24

It was the Noid. It

53:26

would stop your pizza from getting delivered on time.

53:28

And he was like, avoid the Noid, go with Domino's,

53:31

which will get your pizza in,

53:33

what, 30 minutes or less, or it's free, right? It's like

53:35

a villain that they came up

53:37

with. The Noid is Claymation,

53:39

a human guy in

53:42

a Deadpool red superhero

53:44

costume, but he has big rabbit

53:46

ears. Yeah,

53:47

I was always a little unclear what his

53:49

biology is supposed to be. He's got

53:51

the suit, he has the rabbit ears. It's

53:54

so strange, but it was a craze.

53:56

People loved the noise.

53:59

Unfortunately.

54:00

something really sad happened

54:03

in 1989 that might have contributed

54:06

to the end of the Noid. So

54:08

at a Domino's location in Georgia, the

54:10

state, a man came in with a gun

54:13

and held two Domino's employees

54:15

hostage.

54:16

His name was Kenneth

54:19

Noid. No. Oh,

54:21

no. And he believed that the

54:23

entire Avoid the Noid campaign

54:26

was about him. He was convinced

54:28

that like Domino's pizza that like stole his

54:30

name. Oh my gosh. The hostages

54:33

actually escaped. But you know, for a while

54:35

there, America was obsessed

54:37

with the Noid mascot.

54:39

Chris, please correct

54:41

me if I'm wrong. There was a Noid video game, right?

54:43

I believe. Very safe. That's

54:45

my next question.

54:45

That's my next question. Tell me, the Noid

54:48

has appeared in how many video

54:50

games? Oh my God. Oh. You're

54:53

already blowing my mind because I would have capped

54:55

it at one. Like there were multiple? Yeah. I

54:58

thought I thought there

55:00

just was one video game.

55:03

Is it more than one? Four.

55:06

What? Avoid

55:08

the noi computer game 1980. No,

55:11

OK. All right. Sure. OK. Yo,

55:14

noi'd the the

55:17

NES Nintendo 1990 game made

55:19

by Capcom. That's

55:21

what I was thinking of, which was a localized

55:24

version of an existing Japanese platformer.

55:26

They do that a lot where they kind of reskin it. The

55:29

noise super pizza shootout

55:31

in 2011, which was

55:34

a Facebook Web game

55:36

in the style of a classic arcade game.

55:39

And get this, the fourth game crash

55:42

Bandicoot on the run. What's

55:45

what the 2021 mobile

55:47

endless

55:48

runner? Wow. The

55:50

noise makes makes an appearance. We need

55:52

to nip this in the bud right here. I

55:55

don't think we should do noid

55:57

nostalgia. Yes! we

56:00

should actively resist the Noid

56:02

coming back. If anything, where are

56:04

the California Raisins? They sang Motown

56:06

hits. I feel like

56:09

they could come back. They had skill.

56:12

I don't see them anywhere.

56:13

Exactly. They trained very

56:15

hard to sing those songs. Yeah, I think out

56:18

of all 80s claymation, I think

56:20

Raisins earned their place. All

56:22

right, so I said before, as of 2018, Domino's

56:27

has stores in over 83 countries, But

56:30

very, very, very, very recently Domino's

56:32

made the world news in August 2022. So

56:35

just last year, because they finally

56:37

had to shut down operations in what

56:40

country after trying

56:41

for seven years. Oh, I'm

56:43

pretty sure it was, it was Italy,

56:46

right? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Is

56:49

Italy, the Italian

56:51

franchise company of Domino's,

56:54

they had to declare bankruptcy. You

56:56

think? Yeah, sure. ballsy of them

56:59

to sell delivery pizza in the land

57:01

that invented pizza. But

57:04

they actually said that it was the pandemic.

57:07

You know, once the pandemic hit, many

57:09

of the local restaurants leveled up their delivery

57:11

games.

57:12

So oh, so that's essentially

57:14

that's what they were trying. They were trying to go in and do

57:17

delivery delivery in a place where

57:19

that that wasn't really typical. Right. Like that

57:21

was sort of their angle that we're working and then everybody else

57:23

are doing it.

57:24

Yeah, the tech leveled up, the

57:26

delivery apps leveled up, and so now

57:28

your local restaurants could go into that

57:31

game too. So, Domino's just couldn't rely

57:33

on that model anymore. And it may not

57:35

surprise you, Italy is the birthplace

57:37

of the pizza. It also, of course,

57:40

is the birthplace of the first documented

57:43

pizza delivery. As

57:45

the story goes, in 1889, the king and queen of

57:47

Italy were traveling in Naples, where

57:52

the queen fell ill, the royal

57:54

couple requested to have the best food

57:57

sent to them. Here's

57:59

my

58:00

The king in the story, or

58:03

the king in history, Umberto

58:05

the First. What was the queen's

58:07

name? Oh. Colin. Has

58:11

to be Margarita. Yes,

58:14

it is. Queen

58:16

Margarita of Savoy, Queen of Italy.

58:19

Of course. The namesake

58:22

of the Margarita pizza, and you know,

58:24

basil, cheese and tomato, red,

58:27

white and green, the colors of the

58:29

flag, Yes, yes, yes. Oh, yes, it was the tribute. Very

58:31

good, very good. Yeah, yeah. Ah.

58:34

Their name was Queen Oreo Pizza. Ha

58:36

ha ha ha ha ha.

58:39

Finally, last question. If

58:41

you order a plain

58:43

pizza from Domino's, what

58:46

would you get?

58:49

Whoa. It's

58:51

a tricky question. So Chris comes from a land

58:53

where your plain pizza is

58:55

very different. I'm from the New Haven area,

58:58

which is that a plain, still technically

59:00

means dough, crust, tomato

59:03

sauce on the top, and then just like

59:05

sprinkling of Parmesan cheese. Like

59:07

mozzarella cheese is considered a topic.

59:10

A to-oh, okay. That's not a

59:12

plain pizza, but on Domino's, I

59:14

would assume that a plain pizza includes mozzarella

59:16

cheese.

59:17

If you order a plain pizza from

59:19

Domino's, you would get crust

59:22

and sauce. Really? However,

59:25

you're doing this probably on an app

59:27

or online. Yeah. So when you, the

59:30

cheese is pre-selected for you.

59:32

Ah, yes. If

59:35

you order from the phone, the employee

59:37

would say, would you like cheese on it? Or

59:39

do you mean cheese pizza? Right. Right.

59:41

And so it's a little bit tricky. Plain as

59:43

no cheese. You're aware also of none

59:46

pizza with left beef. What? What?

59:48

None, none pizza with left beef. Yeah.

59:51

I just quickly looked this up to remind myself of it. It

59:53

was in 2007, really it was when they were starting to

59:56

roll out like ordering pizza online

59:58

by picking, you know, picking. the toppings that you

1:00:00

bought on website. And of course Domino's

1:00:03

was at the forefront of this. The guy

1:00:05

was like, I want to test what would actually happen

1:00:07

to just get something completely ridiculous. And

1:00:11

you can say, I want toppings on the left,

1:00:13

toppings on the right, right? You split the toppings

1:00:15

of the pizza. So he gets a pizza

1:00:18

and he picks toppings, absolutely

1:00:20

nothing, nothing at all. And

1:00:23

then except on one side

1:00:25

of the pizza, He

1:00:27

picks the beef, like ground beef.

1:00:30

He's like, I

1:00:32

ordered a nun pizza with left beef. And

1:00:35

he posts a picture of it, and

1:00:37

it's a bare pizza crust.

1:00:39

And just on the, with no

1:00:42

sauce, no cheese, just crust. And then

1:00:45

on the left side are just a

1:00:47

few, like, little sprinklings of ground beef.

1:00:51

It's hilarious. And he got it.

1:00:53

I mean, they'll they'll

1:00:56

make you anything that you specify. Yeah,

1:00:58

they will. Yeah, exactly. No. And I'm sure they got

1:01:01

it. And they were like, hmm. Well, all

1:01:03

right. Sure. OK. Don't

1:01:06

be too lucky if it's great. Yeah.

1:01:08

So

1:01:11

that was my segment. A little bit departure

1:01:14

from actual bones, but it was definitely

1:01:17

inspired by the learned question in the fact

1:01:19

that Domino's is

1:01:21

also called Bones.

1:01:22

All right,

1:01:23

Colin, it's time to talk

1:01:26

about your game. Your game

1:01:28

that you've been working on for so long.

1:01:31

Yes, for so long. And

1:01:33

Karen and Chris, you guys, man, early

1:01:35

on, we're both beta, or not even beta,

1:01:37

alpha, pre-alpha testers of this game. The

1:01:40

name of our game, it is called Bear

1:01:43

Bones. And it is a little

1:01:45

bit of a pun name. The

1:01:47

focus of the game is on rolling

1:01:50

dice. And we really

1:01:52

were trying to capture kind of a throwback feel.

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I mentioned Yahtzee at the top of the show.

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And there are also cards in the game. We. We

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call the game, it's the dice game that

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thinks it's a card game.

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big snag, I remember so

1:02:53

clearly the making of the dice

1:02:55

because it's not your pip 1.2. It's

1:02:59

like numbers on dice and

1:03:01

how logistically difficult

1:03:03

it is to make.

1:03:03

They're custom diced. It individually

1:03:06

numbered. There are seven sets

1:03:09

of different dice and manufacturing

1:03:11

custom dice was no small feat.

1:03:14

That means they had to make a mold. How

1:03:17

does it work? That's yeah, you can either have the molded,

1:03:20

but a lot of games, especially for small

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run games, they are laser etched. Yeah,

1:03:24

so blank cubes, blank acrylic

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dice, 16 millimeter dice, and then

1:03:29

they're etched, filled in with paint, cleaned up.

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And our starting scale is 500 units,

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1:03:43

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