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Hello Star Spangled Starlets

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at Starboard starving for

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star fruit starbursts. Welcome

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to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show

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and offbeat trivia podcast. This

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is episode 258 and

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of course I'm your humble host Karen

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and we are your probing pros,

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prone to protrusions, prognosticating

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programs, pro bono.

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I'm Colin and I'm Chris.

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Alright without further ado let's jump into

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our first general trivia segment,

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pop quiz. Hot shot. Oh

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here we go. Something different. Here

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I have a random Trivial Pursuit

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card and you guys have your barnyard

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buzzers buzzing with the answers.

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This is Trivial Pursuit

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music singles. Music

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okay. So like they're unmarried. Here

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we go. Blue Edge what

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is the full name of KC

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of KC and the Sunshine Band?

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Oh great. Great

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question. Wonderful question. Great

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question. Here's a hint. Oh okay. It's

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not the initials aren't like K

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and C. Oh okay. Alright

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so you either know or you don't. I

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do not know. KC Jones

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or something like

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that? Oh I see like KC.

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KC. Yeah yeah. A

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full name is Harry Wayne KC.

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Ah okay alright. Okay

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alright. So yeah so you were on the right track

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there Chris. Very very serial killerish

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and I can see why he changed it. Yes yes

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yes. Oh it's a triple firsty right

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Karen?

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It is a triple firsty. Harry

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Wayne. Yeah, got

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a level sound effect that plays when you hit we

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have triple firsty Peekwetch

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What John Lennon song

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did radio mogul clear channel?

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Suggest that its station avoid playing

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after the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks on the US

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Chris Imagine it was imagine

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imagine. Yeah 100% I remember

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this. Yeah. Yep. Yeah Yo, which

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what pop veteran won a Grammy

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for record of the year in 1994? Wins

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beneath my wings

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Chris Bad

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middler Bonus question that's

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not on this card, but in my brain what

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film did that song? Yes speeches

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That's almost a phenomenon I mean,

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I know I'm a little bit older than you guys but I remember

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like you could not escape that movie beach Oh

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like at one point there. Yeah, have you

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actually watched it though? I Saw

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it like on an airplane

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or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah

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big tearjerker Great

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song great movie. Here we go purple

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wedge. What type of emotionally charged

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American-born music does rock

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and roll hail from

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um Chris

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rhythm and blues had a baby and that baby

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was rock and roll It

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is the blues Okay,

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oh I'm gonna give it to myself you

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like to do that Well,

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I'm right it did grow out of rhythm and blues,

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but okay Green wedge

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who is the queen of soul? Oh

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Colin that is Aretha

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Franklin Aretha

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Franklin last question

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on this card What Prince song

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was a 1990 hit for

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a Sinead O'Connor?

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power

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Colin that is nothing compares

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to you In

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a letter you can hear the number in the letter nothing

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to you That

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was kind of easy let's do another

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card here I have random

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which one I this one

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Genus or to the pursuit

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blue edge blue edge Regeography

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where in Massachusetts is the only

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island County in town

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in the US that share the same name

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Chris

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Oh Martha's Vineyard

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I was gonna say you know, I was gonna say Cape Cod, but

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I'm like no wait, that's a cape. That's not in Thailand, Massachusetts

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and none of those Island

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County and the county island on

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a town. I

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have Martha Vinner is pretty good. Yes, Chris I don't

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know if I can top that

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it is. I only know it from a beverage

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called Nantucket nectar Oh,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Nick like fishing

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town on the label. Yeah, yeah

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Pinkwedge

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arts and entertainment who once

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asked Cindy bear what's on your

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mind as if it isn't obvious.

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Oh

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Oh my gosh

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Colin Yogi bear it is

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Yogi bear. Okay. All right Girlfriend

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or not

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yellow edge

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what Harry Callahan line did

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Ronald Reagan invoke to tax

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increases?

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Oh

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Yeah, oh Yeah,

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okay. Okay, Colin. Are they just looking

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for make my day go ahead

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go ahead make my day I'm sorry. Yeah, very

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Calhoun from dirty Harry.

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Yes. Yes Bramlage

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signs in nature what characteristic

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of minerals is described

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by the most

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scale Colin

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that would be the hardness Refreshing

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my memory for our for the flat episode

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Green

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wedge who won the Heisman Trophy

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in 1985 and baseball's

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all-star game MVP award in 1989

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Oh

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Colin is that Bo Jackson it

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is Bo Jackson. I would never have

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said anything else Pretty

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small group of people who could

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do both of those What is who

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is the only person who is both good at football

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and baseball?

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Last question orange wedge wildcard

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what six foot four creature did

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a Carolina preacher accused of being

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a Quote new-age demon

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and quote the purple Messiah

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Barney the dinosaur Barney I

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love that the country song writing

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nature of that question though. It's like

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what Carolina preacher thought a six-foot

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Alright good job, right

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Today's episode Colin usually hear the theme

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picker but I threw I threw this

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nomination in you did and statically

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Yes, and I was like guys. What if we

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did an episode about holes? I think

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maybe because I've been lately into them blackhead

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extraction videos or like pimple popping

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Oh holes. Yeah,

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holding body holes in the earth holes

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You know in food and so

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yes, that is today's episode

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all about holes

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so Here's to the

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whole

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truth

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Alright, I will start us off here. I have

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a good old fashioned, good job, Brainstyle,

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word related quiz for

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you. It is called Blank

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Hole. And this

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is gonna be Lightning Round

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style. I'm going

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to give you guys a clue to

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a target word, maybe

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short phrase, and all

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of the answers to this quiz end

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with the word hole. Okay?

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So we're gonna do Lightning Round style. I'm

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gonna read the clue. You buzz in if you think you know

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the word, and we're just gonna keep on moving. So for

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example, for example, if

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I were to say a lawn

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game often played while holding

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a beer, you would say

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cornhole.

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You got it. Okay, here we go.

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Get your buzzers. Just

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a disclaimer everybody. We're a

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family friendly show.

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I promise. So don't

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turn the show off. Clean,

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family friendly, no bleeps

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or censorship needed for this show. Cornhole

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was as racy as we were gonna get. Alright, get

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the buzzers ready. Here we go.

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A common

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city road hazard. Chris,

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what do you got for me?

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Hot hole. Hot hole, you got it.

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A pit dug for protection

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from enemy fire. Foxhole.

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My rooster

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is running out of battery. Lincoln is dying

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over there. Oh no. Alright,

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alright. Well, foxhole. Foxhole.

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How a cetacean breathes.

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Karen.

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A blowhole. Blowhole, yes. Cetacean,

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of course, the whales and their family.

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That's right, blowhole. Their loved ones.

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a rudimentary type of camera.

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Oh Karen

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again pinhole pinhole

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you got it a pinhole camera have

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you guys ever made a pinhole camera? Yeah like it's

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actually it's one of those things I just

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I can't believe that it works and it works it's great

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yeah and the photographs are terrible yeah

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but in a charming way they're charmingly

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terrible if not

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terribly charming. Ah an

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ambiguity or omission

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in a legal document.

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Ah Karen by a hair again.

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Is this loophole?

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It is

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loophole I'm looking for loophole

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that's right.

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A theoretical structure connecting

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distant points in space-time.

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Oh my

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gosh.

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A window on

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a cruise ship.

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Both

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of you together. That's right. Portole.

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To assign someone to an

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overly restrictive category.

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Oh good

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Chris. It always seems like I didn't

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buzz in fast enough because it's so

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long. Pigeonhole. Yes pigeonhole.

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Two

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pigeonholes someone. The bar at a

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golf course.

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Chris. You call it the 19th

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hole. You got it the 19th hole yes there are

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there are in fact many courses and clubs across

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the country where the bar is literally named

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the 19th hole. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah.

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The space between a goaltender's

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legs.

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Oh, going

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back here. What is it, Karen? Five hole.

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That's right. The five hole.

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I'll never forget that. To

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erase something from public

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awareness. Oh, Chris.

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Memory hole. Memory

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hole. Yes. Memory hole.

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You got it. All right. And last

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one.

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A dish made of sausages

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cooked in batter. Together,

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everyone.

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Toad in the hole. Toad

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in the hole. Our old pop trivia

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place, I remember once they had that

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on the menu, like a seasonal item.

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Oh, really? Like, oh my God, we gotta get this. Toad

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in the hole.

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Yeah. Yeah. No toads nor holes. Yeah.

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It's really like, you know, like, oh, toad in the hole.

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Then you look at it. Oh,

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it's some sausages in a pan. Right.

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Right. With Yorkshire pudding on it, basically. Yeah.

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All right. Well done. Good job. You

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guys are way deep down in the blank hole. There

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is a certain like breakfast dish that

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I think it's one of those things where either

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you grew up knowing about it and eating

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it, and it's perfectly normal,

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or you have never heard of it ever.

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And then when somebody brings it up to you, it's like,

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what?

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In God's name are you talking

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about? What? Egg in

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the hole. Yeah. And

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the idea is you take a piece of bread and

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you tear a circle out of the

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center of the slice of bread, and then you

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like butter it, and then you put it in a pan,

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and then you crack an egg.

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Oh, into that. Into the middle of it. And

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then you flip the entire bread and egg

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over, basically, and you fry

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the other side. And then of course, take

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the circle of bread and you fry that in the pan as well. So

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you get the bread. So essentially it

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comes out as a fried egg,

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but it's inside a wing

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of bread. I

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used to love these as a kid. Why

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did you put the egg on top of the bread? Because

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that's not the point. It's not integrated.

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I tried to make egg in the hole for

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my daughter, who's five a few months

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ago for the first time. It was just one of these classic

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parent moments, like, oh, I'm so excited. I'm

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telling her all about it. I'm hyping it up. I'm

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like, it's something you've never seen before.

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And then I proceeded

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to just, you wouldn't

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think this would be easy to botch this

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dish, but I totally botched it. I

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had a brioche bun, which just,

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it had so much butter in it, it started

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burning. I took

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me like, oh no, three attempts

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to get it, like, to actually looking right.

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Like, she was just at that point completely

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uninterested, didn't really want it at

14:56

all. I just feel like you

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can... Karen, the egg is in the hole.

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Get it?

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So this past summer, good

15:08

job, we were on break, but Chris

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and I got to be on another

15:13

podcast. We were on Escape This Podcast

15:15

again, where

15:18

our amazing pals, Danny

15:20

and Bill, they design, host

15:23

and produce an audio escape room,

15:26

adventure. Their show is Escape This

15:28

Podcast. And for this recent

15:30

one, we escaped from a mini

15:33

golf course. Yeah. That was a really

15:35

fun and cute episode. Mini

15:37

golf has such a special place

15:40

in my heart. I got

15:42

married at a mini golf

15:44

course. You guys were there? Because

15:47

that's

15:47

where my first date with my husband

15:50

was at a mini golf place. And

15:52

to be honest, it's such a good date place. It

15:55

is safe, and you can kind of do the group date

15:57

if you want to sort of... Use the group date. Use the

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pressure.

15:59

little bit yeah and it's probably

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a good place to tell if someone is crazy

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you know yeah like

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reaction to like that yeah to the

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game of mini golf could set up a lot

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of yes a lot of red flag or issues

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or yep yep yeah

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so my head when I think about mini golf I think

16:17

of the giant clown mouth

16:21

the ball through the buck teeth the windmill

16:24

seven wonders of the world that kind of stuff

16:26

and so I'm like I was thinking I was like okay when when

16:29

did golf become giant

16:31

clown mouth right based on the

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Guinness Book of World Records

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the first mini golf course

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is documented to

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be at st. Andrews links

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these st. Andrews okay Andrews

16:44

yes the the oldest and

16:47

probably one of the most prestigious the home

16:49

of

16:49

golf yeah big deal

16:51

this is in Scotland and a site

16:53

in Scotland and this is where miniature

16:55

golf came to be back in Victorian

16:58

times you had two reasons to

17:00

be at st. Andrews links if you're

17:02

a woman

17:03

first chances are you're somebody's

17:05

wife and you have to wait for your husband

17:08

to play golf with his friends second

17:11

you might be a fan of golf

17:14

but you weren't really entirely welcome

17:16

to play on the main

17:18

golf course back then and

17:20

Victorian etiquette which just wasn't

17:23

proper to make big swinging

17:25

movements with

17:26

your body right it was frowned

17:28

upon

17:29

st. Andrews links they designed

17:32

and installed something that women

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could play

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with more like a more constrained

17:38

body

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and they put out like a putting green

17:44

even though it's for women other people joined

17:46

in because it was it was fun cuz it's fun yeah 1867 however

17:48

here here's my issue yes it's

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technically miniature

17:56

version of golf but to me it's

17:58

not mini

17:59

golf. Right? You

18:02

want you want whimsy and weird structures

18:04

and things like

18:05

that. I want artificial man-made

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stuff, right? This is still beautiful

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grass, you know, the lawn, it's natural,

18:13

it's just kind of the curvature of the hills.

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Fast forward to 1930, there is a key invention that kind

18:19

of helped propelled this sport

18:20

to become more of the artificial

18:22

like mini-golf that we know of, and that

18:24

is artificial green. Not

18:27

artificial turf, it literally

18:30

is just like green sand. You know, at St.

18:32

Andrews, those are grass, you have to like mow

18:34

the grass, you have to tend to the grass, and now

18:36

they have this artificial green substance

18:39

that they can use instead of grass.

18:41

You have all these people getting into

18:44

mini-golf and all these people getting

18:46

into the business of mini-golf, because all you

18:48

have to do is, you know, have this artificial green,

18:51

put some holes on the ground, and then

18:53

charge people, and the artificial

18:55

green did something interesting. Now places

18:57

that had weather conditions, they're not

18:59

on the grass-growing schedule. Now

19:02

they can just set up and not worry about

19:04

the weather. Making these mini-golf

19:07

courses didn't really require a lot of natural

19:09

space. They could do it on a rooftop, they

19:12

can do it in a building, you know, they can

19:14

do it at a park. And it was

19:16

so popular in the 1930s, they dubbed

19:18

it as the madness of 1930. The madness.

19:20

Now in 1930s,

19:22

this

19:26

is when movies started talking,

19:28

right? We went from silent movies to now

19:30

we have talkies. Mini-golf was so

19:32

popular that the movie industry was

19:35

worried. They were sweating,

19:37

because they're just like, oh my god,

19:39

now like all these people aren't paying money

19:41

to go into

19:42

the movie theaters, they're paying money to play

19:45

mini-golf. And so a lot of the

19:47

studios, you know, like back then, the studios have

19:49

exclusive contracts with their actors and actresses.

19:52

They would not let their their

19:54

stars even be seen playing

19:57

mini-golf. We don't endorse this. Yes,

19:59

yeah.

19:59

For example, how probably was

20:02

it between 1930 and 1931? This

20:05

is from the Jacksonville Historical Society.

20:08

Jacksonville had 15 courses, 15

20:11

mini golf courses. This is also

20:13

a time where there was segregation.

20:16

And so you have the white courses

20:18

and then the African American neighborhoods,

20:20

they have their mini golf courses.

20:23

However, what goes up

20:25

must come down. Big fat

20:28

rise, a big fat fall. So remember

20:30

how Jacksonville had 15 courses,

20:33

only six remained the next year.

20:36

And then the year after that, zero.

20:37

And so

20:39

people got burned

20:40

out. They just lost their interest.

20:43

Courses actually themselves had a variety of

20:45

problems. Mob affiliation,

20:47

where this has become like the unsavory

20:49

youth place. But even

20:51

with artificial green, which

20:53

is made out of green dye and like cotton

20:56

seed holes and stuff.

20:57

The way you say artificial green makes me

20:59

think of like Soylent Green each time you

21:01

say it. You know what? Yeah. Not

21:04

that far off. Not that far off. So

21:06

even with this invention, the courses

21:08

were still pretty plain.

21:10

So in comes the 1940s. People

21:12

lost interest, but Taylor Brothers, instead

21:15

of getting into the business of opening and

21:17

maintaining mini golf courses as a

21:19

business, they started making

21:22

prefabricated courses that

21:24

you can sell to people. And so other people

21:27

can install it. And now they've

21:29

added landscaping props,

21:31

like a castle, a little tree.

21:34

Yes. We're still not in big clown

21:37

mouth territory, but now we're kind of adding

21:39

to the landscape. You know,

21:41

maybe like a little well or a

21:43

little bridge. The key

21:45

thing is Taylor Brothers got a contract

21:48

with the American military. So

21:51

they were making these pieces,

21:53

these prefabricated mini

21:54

golf courses to supply

21:57

to army bases. And

21:59

so now you have.

21:59

military bases all over the world, US

22:02

military with mini golf set

22:04

up as like recreation.

22:06

Now we're progressing to the 1950s.

22:08

This is clown town guys.

22:10

It's post

22:13

war. All these people who

22:15

spent their time in military bases and are

22:17

coming back home, there's an

22:19

influx of money, prosperity,

22:21

and this is the next big

22:24

mini golf boom. People had

22:26

a lot of leisure time, people had a lot of disposable

22:28

income. And also 1950s, don't forget,

22:31

this is like when people were into like science,

22:34

space exploration, futuristic

22:36

themes. And so now mini golf courses,

22:38

all these people who played mini golf courses

22:41

back in military bases are coming back to be like, oh,

22:43

let's go. I wish I could play more of that.

22:45

And so now the mini golf courses that set up in the 1950s

22:49

are starting to incorporate some of the crazy

22:51

stuff like a rocket

22:55

ship. 1955 Loma golf founded

22:57

by the Loma brothers. They're

23:00

the ones who implemented

23:02

the wacky trick shot windmill

23:05

clown mouth stuff, drawbridges,

23:09

whale spouting water. The

23:11

big advantage of having these big moving

23:13

pieces is that

23:15

people now have bought nice cars.

23:17

Passerby cars can now see

23:20

from a distance your big windmill and be like,

23:22

what's that? I

23:24

want to ask you guys, do you guys call it

23:27

mini golf or do you guys call

23:28

it putt putt?

23:30

Mini golf.

23:31

Mini golf or even

23:33

miniature golf. But yeah,

23:36

I don't think I heard putt putt until

23:39

maybe junior high and it was from yeah,

23:42

it was from like a friend from another

23:44

state, you know. So

23:45

I used to call it putt putt and

23:47

then now I call it mini golf because.

23:50

Fear

23:50

pressure. Yes.

23:52

And

23:53

putt putt is a trademark

23:55

name. Putt

23:58

putt LLC.

23:59

started in the 1950s. Also,

24:02

putt putt has its own rules. Putt

24:05

putt is a

24:05

different game. No. Yes,

24:08

the putt putt course, big

24:10

P big P putt putt putt

24:13

course,

24:13

every whole design is

24:16

copyrighted.

24:17

Oh.

24:18

And then every whole is part

24:20

two.

24:20

Oh, so it's literally like putt

24:23

and then you putt and then you're done. It's supposed

24:26

to be a more serious game. Then I

24:28

don't think I've ever played an official

24:30

putt. Me neither. I don't think I've ever seen

24:32

this.

24:33

It's designed so that people can

24:37

hit a hole in one, not out

24:39

of luck, but out of very good skill. Okay.

24:41

Right. Versus, you know, when you're at mini

24:44

golf, you're like,

24:45

well, let's just hit this ball and see

24:47

what happens as it goes into the tunnel.

24:49

Yeah. And then it gets spit out from flap

24:52

is moving in the right direction. My ball

24:54

gets there. Right.

24:55

And also for Papa, very importantly, no

24:57

themes, no themes, no props.

25:00

It's what they call no frills,

25:03

all skills.

25:04

So

25:06

that's the difference. This is how the game

25:09

has evolved from the ladies

25:11

putting green

25:12

to the big clown mouth.

25:15

The one at my wedding that you guys went to, like it

25:17

was all San Francisco based. So there was like a

25:19

lot of like the trans America building. That

25:21

one was a lot of fun. I

25:23

want to go play now. You're making me realize

25:25

it's been I think

25:27

I've played maybe once since

25:30

the COVID pandemic.

25:31

I do top golf now. Oh,

25:34

top golf is fun.

25:36

What is that?

25:37

So it's not mini golf. It's driving range,

25:40

but with a

25:40

game layer. Like, like if you were

25:43

at a driving range on top of a giant

25:45

pinball machine.

25:46

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a ski ball machine,

25:48

basically. And so each

25:50

ball has an RFID. And

25:52

so it knows where your ball is going.

25:54

And then it maps an AR,

25:56

you know, special zones that have more points.

25:59

And

25:59

There's all these different game modes. It's just

26:02

a normal driving range, but they just add this digital

26:04

layer to it. And you can see in the big screen, you're like,

26:06

Oh, I'm going to aim it that way to hit

26:08

in the hidden that hole that has more points.

26:11

It's really, really fun. But then it's like, once you go,

26:13

it's like, let's get drinks. Let's eat.

26:16

Then at the end of the day, you're like, Oh, that

26:18

was pricey.

26:19

That was pricey.

26:22

And I'm still not going to call. People

26:26

are always like, Oh, you know, you can go play real

26:29

golf.

26:29

And I'm like, no, thank you.

26:33

I understand. Yes. Maybe I will enjoy

26:35

golf the sport, but like,

26:36

I really like the top

26:38

golf and mini golf. It's

26:41

like the, we were playing rock band. Speaking

26:43

of something that came and went, it was just like, we're

26:45

all playing rock band because we're just like,

26:47

wait, what are you doing? Go start

26:49

a real band. It's like, no, thank you. No,

26:51

I don't want to do that. No, I will not. It's

26:53

ridiculous. I want

26:55

to play smashing pumpkins. Like now,

26:58

not, not 10 years from now.

27:03

All right. We'll take a quick break and

27:05

we'll be right back.

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27:41

Welcome to from beneath the Hollywood

27:43

sign. If you love old movies, Hollywood

27:46

history, or the golden age of filmmaking, you've

27:48

come to the right place. This is the podcast

27:50

that talks about amazing stories of Tinseltown

27:52

from another era and fascinating conversations

27:55

with writer, producer, Steve, and actress,

27:57

writer,

27:57

man. argument,

28:00

he ended up dislocating Ava's jaw.

28:03

Ava, she was such a tough cookie. Rather than cry

28:06

or scream or anything like that, she was...

28:08

Or called the police. Or called police. She's

28:10

sort of, exactly. What does she do? She takes

28:13

an ashtray and she knocks him over

28:15

the head and knocks him unconscious. That's how

28:17

she fought back. She didn't know what to do, so

28:19

she called Louis B. Mayer. I think I killed

28:21

Howard Hughes. What do I do? Revisit

28:23

a time when the pictures were still big and

28:26

everyone was ready for their close-up. You want

28:28

Tyrone Power instead of Tom Hardy,

28:30

Jennifer Jones

28:31

instead of Jennifer Lawrence, or Robert Mitchum

28:33

rather than Robert Pattinson. And from

28:35

beneath the Hollywood sign is the gin

28:37

joint for you.

28:58

Good job, Brain.

29:06

Hey, we're back. You're listening to Good Job,

29:08

Brain. And this week,

29:10

we're all about hoes. So

29:12

I thought I would do something really

29:14

special for this episode for you guys. I wanted

29:17

to do like a musical sort of a quiz, but

29:19

I wanted to just really take this one over the top. So

29:21

I went ahead and I gathered

29:24

together 10 very

29:27

well-known musical acts. I got them all

29:29

together in person. And

29:32

then I pushed them

29:34

all into a hole. As

29:37

they descended, them all being consummate

29:40

professionals as I knew they were, they all began

29:42

singing about their predicament. And

29:45

I had, of course, anticipated this scenario.

29:47

So I had the whole mic and I captured

29:50

a recording that I will

29:52

now play for you.

29:53

Okay.

29:54

So what I will ask you to do is you will listen

29:56

to this recording of approximately

29:58

one minute in length.

29:59

to write down as

30:02

many of the musical acts

30:05

which are solos and bands as

30:07

you can identify. We'll

30:09

listen to it again afterwards, give you a quickest

30:11

cue. Interesting. It's a super cut music

30:14

round. Okay. Get

30:16

your writing implements ready. Are

30:19

we ready with those? Yes. Yes.

30:22

Okay. Three, two, one, play it. I keep

30:24

on falling. I keep on falling. I

30:26

keep on falling. I keep on falling.

31:28

Wow.

31:32

Sorry, I guess I didn't get all 10 of them into

31:34

the hole. One of them said that they... So you're

31:37

still standing. We'll play

31:40

it a second time, but that's all you

31:43

get. You get one more time through. So

31:45

you'll know the ones that you wrote down. I'm sure you identified

31:48

some, maybe some you didn't. Maybe

31:51

some are more in Carole's wheelhouse. Maybe

31:53

some are more in Collin's. Maybe the audience

31:55

has some answers, but...

31:57

If this were real pop trivia, you only play

31:59

it once.

31:59

only play it once. I want to know how many

32:02

Colin has written down like

32:04

for sure. Okay, let's check in. I

32:06

wrote down 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 that I'm pretty

32:09

sure, one guess, and

32:11

then I

32:15

have like 3, I just couldn't catch

32:17

it. Okay.

32:19

What about you, Aaron? I have eight confidence.

32:21

Okay. All right. Okay. Let's

32:23

hope that our confidence is overlap

32:26

here. Let's as we move into the the

32:28

the the generous second listen.

32:31

Let's remember the classic pub trivia

32:33

tip here of don't write down

32:35

nothing. Like it's always better to write

32:38

down something than to write down

32:40

nothing. So if it's given you the

32:42

vibe of a certain artist, like for

32:45

no reason, you know, maybe write that down because because

32:47

maybe you're right. But let's listen to this just

32:50

one more time.

32:51

And then after that, we'll go through

32:53

each one by one and we'll find out what

32:55

the answers are.

34:00

I'm so excited!

34:05

The last one is good.

34:08

Just like tweaking you. I thought you got me. No

34:10

you didn't. Okay, so you've

34:12

had your second listen.

34:15

You've written down everything. This is a

34:17

pencils down time. You

34:19

at home, you know, whatever you've guessed, those

34:22

are going to be your answers. We can

34:24

go through one by one and we'll find

34:26

out the names of these

34:29

acts. The theme of the musical quiz being

34:31

falling down a giant hole.

34:34

Which is I assume what they're all talking about. Let's

34:37

find out some of these answers if you

34:39

do not know.

34:40

Alright, so here's clip number one. I

34:42

keep on falling. Mmhmm.

34:46

Short and sweet. I was nervous because

34:48

you know you had the little tune in sound in the first

34:50

clip. I thought that was like a song

34:52

and I was like I don't know what song this

34:54

is from. Sorry, it's supposed to be the Doppler Effect

34:57

of people being pushed and falling down a hole. That's

34:59

kind of what I thought, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:03

But anyway, what did you have written down? You can show me

35:06

your answers or just say what you wrote down. That is of

35:08

course. Alicia Keys.

35:12

Alicia Keys. And

35:14

what's the title of that track? This is not for points

35:16

or anything but... Fallen. F-A-L-L-I-N apostrophe.

35:20

Oh, yes. Fickler for punctuation.

35:24

And clip number two. Ollie,

35:29

Ollie, Ollie.

35:32

We can't go a music quiz, a Chris Coler

35:34

music quiz without having some Fleetwood Mac on there.

35:37

Fleetwood Mac? You cannot, no. And

35:39

so we both got Fleetwood Mac? Yes.

35:41

Song title, anybody? I don't know.

35:44

Let me work my way back on this one. Yeah, go

35:46

for it. Is it when the loving starts?

35:49

It's Say You Love Me. Say

35:51

You Love Me. Say You Love Me. That's okay. Great,

35:53

great. All right. Let's

35:56

proceed a pace to clip number three.

35:59

I put Alanis

36:01

Morissette.

36:06

Alanis

36:09

Morissette, head over feet. Very good, very good.

36:12

We can move right on to click

36:14

number four. Great

36:24

track. This is my favorite song by

36:26

them. Oh my gosh. This might be one

36:29

of my top two or three REM songs for sure.

36:31

Well very good. So it's REM,

36:33

REM fall on me. Great

36:36

work by the two of you. Okay, well we're tied,

36:38

right? Everybody has four? Yep. All

36:41

right, let's see what happens moving into clip number five. I don't think anything's

36:43

going to change.

36:54

Didn't we just have a, not a fight,

36:57

but a discussion about

36:59

whether this track was Tom Petty or

37:02

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers? I

37:04

will tell you that it is emphatically

37:07

not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Okay,

37:10

that's what I thought. Is

37:13

it the first single off his first solo

37:16

album as Tom

37:19

Petty without the Heartbreakers?

37:21

Yeah, I wrote Tom Petty. Good

37:23

to know though, right? Yes, it's Tom Petty. Free

37:26

fall in

37:27

apostrophe. The video

37:29

for this was filmed

37:32

at the shopping mall near

37:34

my house that we would go hang out at all

37:36

the time. Yep, you can go up and down the

37:38

escalators at the Westside Pavilion

37:40

in beautiful Los

37:41

Angeles, California. It

37:44

is still there, not in the same format that

37:46

it was when he filmed the video many

37:48

years ago. And he almost heard like that now.

37:52

More like free mall in. Let's go to clip

37:54

number six.

38:05

Is it, are we gonna,

38:07

is it gonna be a little harder now? Yeah. Start

38:09

to get a little murky for me. I had to go for a vibe. I

38:12

went for a vibes based answer on this one. Yes,

38:14

good. Always good. I think 80s, so

38:16

I'm just gonna go with 80s band. Oh.

38:19

What did you think? I was thinking later. I

38:21

was getting like a maroon

38:24

five vibe from it.

38:26

Oh, cause he sings high. Little

38:28

bit. I think between Duran Duran or Dipesh

38:30

Moda, I put Duran Duran. Oh, that's

38:32

a good guess. Good, good guess. Good

38:35

guess. You're both, you're both right.

38:38

It is very much an

38:40

80s band, but the song was released in 2007 and

38:42

the song aside of Falling

38:45

Down by Duran Duran.

38:48

Oh, good, good pull, Karen.

38:50

Nice job, Karen. It really does have it. Yeah.

38:53

I was just talking

38:54

about this with my husband. That

38:56

era of 80s British bands, they

38:59

sing and pronounce very,

39:01

very uniquely. You know, they really

39:04

enunciate,

39:04

move with their lips.

39:07

It's not yet, it's not falling down. Falling

39:10

down. All right, cool. Well,

39:12

nice job, Karen's brain.

39:14

Let's go to clip number seven.

39:17

I'm falling

39:19

again, I'm falling

39:21

again, I'm falling.

39:26

Yeah.

39:27

Don't know what song, but this sounds

39:29

like The Sign of the Times by

39:31

Harry Styles.

39:34

What song is the song? I, again, I was going

39:36

vibes based on this one. As you said,

39:38

had to write something. I

39:40

put Coldplay, but I don't feel

39:42

good about it. Okay. You put Coldplay,

39:45

Karen, you put

39:46

Harry Styles. The

39:49

title of the song is Falling

39:52

by Harry Styles.

39:57

Karen is seven for seven. This

39:59

is why we're here.

39:59

routine. That's right. That's

40:02

what stuff like the apostrophe fall

40:04

in. They have proper calling. I think

40:06

that yes, exactly. I think they see that as a crude

40:10

American. I'm

40:13

falling.

40:14

Let's move on to clip number

40:16

eight.

40:28

Thoughts? Man.

40:31

Any thoughts from anyone?

40:32

I thought this was like indie scene,

40:35

Garden Stakes, Shins, Death

40:37

Cab.

40:38

I put postal service, but I don't think

40:40

that's right. But

40:42

that's kind of...

40:43

It's not. They only had that one album

40:46

and then like three other songs and that's

40:48

not one of them. Iron and Wine. It's a British

40:51

band. Is it Coldplay?

40:54

It's not Coldplay. The

40:58

song title is also Falling

41:01

Down and it was released in 2008,

41:03

just a year after Duran Duran's

41:05

Falling Down. Oh, interesting.

41:08

This group is Oasis. Oh,

41:11

wow. I will not. I refuse

41:13

to leave. It is Oasis. Yeah.

41:16

Yep. And with that horrible

41:18

revelation, we can now move on to clip number nine.

41:20

The truth is, the truth

41:27

is, the truth is, the

41:29

truth is... Probably

41:32

set to slow motion clips of animals

41:34

in shelters. Yeah. Oh, did I get

41:36

it? I put that clip from the block one. The

41:40

song is Fall N, F-A-L-L-E-N

41:42

by Sarah McLachlan. Did

41:47

you both get that? Yes. Yes.

41:50

And just as a little victory lap, we'll

41:52

move on to clip number ten.

42:04

Have you ever watched Sing the Animated?

42:06

I have not. Oh, this is cute.

42:08

This song

42:08

is in it. Taron Egerton. Oh, really?

42:11

Yeah, yeah. And he played Elton John later. I guess.

42:14

That's

42:14

funny. In

42:17

the Rocket Man movie ends with a complete

42:19

shot for shot recreation of the music

42:21

video for this song. Also, which is hilarious.

42:24

Oh, I didn't make that connection.

42:27

Yes, originally by Elton John.

42:30

So, yeah, Elton John, I'm still standing. Did

42:32

not get pushed down the hole. Congratulations, Elton

42:34

John. Everybody

42:37

else is still falling. You're still

42:39

standing. So,

42:42

good work. I think, Karen, you brutalized

42:45

that quiz. Just absolutely.

42:48

Yeah, really. That's really good. I hope

42:50

you enjoyed this super cut

42:53

music round.

42:54

Thank you for being here.

42:58

This is the Battle of the Word Games, Colin,

43:00

because I too have

43:02

prepared a word game. Help!

43:06

We got a hole on this boat and

43:08

water is leaking in. We

43:10

got to find all this H2O and get it out

43:13

of here. Here

43:16

I have an H2O word

43:18

game inspired by Tyler,

43:21

our friend, the CCL quiz that

43:23

Tyler made, featured in episode 250. So,

43:26

here's the format of this game. I'm

43:28

going to give you a clue that's

43:30

very similar to a crossword-style clue.

43:33

Every answer is a common two-word

43:35

phrase or name. So,

43:38

blank, blank.

43:39

The first word will start with H

43:42

and the second word will start with

43:44

H-O. Get it? H2O. We

43:47

got water collecting.

43:49

So, yeah, two words.

43:51

First

43:53

word is going to start with the H.

43:54

The water is coming

43:56

in the hole. Yes.

43:59

Okay.

43:59

We got a hole in this boat. Yeah. Yeah.

44:02

Yeah. Yeah. I will not do the quiz

44:04

unless it makes conceptual sense. Yeah.

44:07

Yeah. Yeah. We're going to alternate here

44:09

because, Chris, your buzzer is dying.

44:13

Oh, sorry. Here we go. Our

44:15

H2O quiz, Colin.

44:19

Your clue is

44:21

music genre.

44:23

Hip hop. Correct.

44:26

Chris.

44:27

Toy with Aussie roots.

44:32

Hula hoop. Correct. Ooh.

44:35

Colin. Animated

44:38

blue dog.

44:40

Huckleberry hound. Yes. Chris,

44:44

where you're better than everyone else?

44:49

Oh,

44:50

where you're better than everyone

44:52

else?

44:53

Home. Uh.

44:57

So you better get off.

45:00

Oh, you're high horse. Yes. Oh.

45:03

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Good.

45:06

Good. Good.

45:07

Colin.

45:08

An uplifting exclamation.

45:12

An uplifting exclamation.

45:18

This is me trying to be clever with, like,

45:19

crossword clues. Hi-ho.

45:23

Steve-ho. Steve-ho

45:27

uplifting. Oh, I get it. That's

45:29

good. That's good. Steve-ho. Good. OK, Chris. One

45:33

with most

45:34

authority.

45:41

One with most authority. High holiness.

45:45

Oh. Japanese

45:47

word in there, I think, right? Yeah, there is a Japanese

45:50

word. Is

45:53

it head honcho? Head honcho.

45:56

OK.

45:58

Colin.

45:59

Often at...

45:59

5 p.m.

46:03

happy hour yes

46:05

Chris depression leader

46:09

depression leader yes depression

46:12

leader my Oh Herbert Hoover Oh big

46:15

D good good

46:18

Colin

46:19

escape expert

46:21

Harry Houdini

46:23

yes

46:24

Chris

46:25

to emphasize a point

46:31

hit home

46:32

yes hit home hammer home also

46:35

acceptable all right last one

46:37

Colin confident for a good

46:39

result

46:42

confident

46:44

high hopes yes

46:45

every

46:49

single one of them every like as soon as you finish on

46:51

like I'm never gonna get this like three seconds

46:53

later oh wait maybe it's this all

46:55

right good job everyone we

47:01

successfully got

47:03

all this H show

47:05

out of the hole everybody's

47:08

shush William

47:14

Shatner has something to say cat and

47:16

Jeff throw box of oddities what do you do

47:19

when the woman you love dies well

47:21

of course you dig her up and you live with her

47:24

the show is examined weird thing

47:26

there are plenty of old photographs from

47:29

this time period of children out in the streets

47:31

playing in and among the dead horse carcasses

47:34

oh I miss those days things

47:37

used to be so much simpler cat and

47:39

Jeff throw then there's the urine wheel

47:41

which sounds like a really bad game show

47:44

weird things

47:45

cat

47:50

and Jeff throw box of oddities that

47:53

is really mysterious join

47:55

Pat and Jeff throw Gilligan talk

47:58

for the strange

47:59

bizarrely unexpected

48:02

as they loop the lid and

48:04

cautiously peer inside the

48:07

box of oddities. What

48:09

the award-winning box of oddities podcast from

48:11

airwave media?

48:13

Colin, you have one last hole.

48:16

I got the final hole here.

48:18

The 19th hole. Yeah.

48:21

You guys are accomplished trivia nerds.

48:24

It goes without saying. So if I were to ask

48:26

you what is the deepest naturally

48:29

occurring point on Earth, you

48:31

would probably know this and

48:34

say... Mariana

48:37

Trench? Yeah, that's right. Not trying

48:39

to trick you. The Mariana Trench. You got it. That's

48:42

right. And most specifically, it is

48:44

Challenger Deep, which is the

48:47

deepest part of the

48:49

Mariana Trench. Oh. Yeah,

48:52

like it's the deepest of the deep down

48:54

in Challenger Deep, just a shade

48:57

under 11,000 meters down there, almost 36,000 feet.

49:02

It's

49:04

down there. That's pretty dang deep.

49:07

And this comes up in trivia a lot. You know, we got Mount

49:09

Everest, the tallest. We got Mariana Trench,

49:12

the deepest. But I got to wondering, because

49:14

I could see this popping up in pub quiz, what is

49:16

the deepest artificial

49:19

point on our planet? Right. In

49:22

other words, what is the deepest hole

49:24

ever

49:25

dug, drilled or otherwise

49:28

willed into existence by humans?

49:31

And like, was it a good

49:33

idea or not? Yes. Also,

49:35

I'm really wondering about.

49:36

Let's just do it and see what happens. You

49:39

know what?

49:40

The answer turned out to be kind of more

49:42

close to let's just do it and see what happens than

49:45

anything else. So

49:48

all right. We're going to travel here mentally to the Kola

49:51

Peninsula. Not Coca-Cola

49:54

is K-O-L-A, which is in the far,

49:57

far northwestern part of

49:59

what is today. Russia, near

50:02

the border with Norway. It's up there. I mean,

50:04

it's up inside the Arctic Circle. It is, I

50:06

mean, off the beaten path for most

50:08

travelers. In 1970, after several

50:10

years of planning, the Soviet

50:14

Union began a scientific

50:16

mission to drill

50:19

as deep as possible into the

50:21

Earth's crust. They're like, we're going to start drilling

50:24

and keep going until we can't drill no more.

50:25

And the Earth's crust,

50:28

that is the outermost layer of our

50:30

planet, it's approximately 25

50:33

miles thick. The Soviet

50:35

scientists, they originally thought

50:37

they might be able to drill down as deep as

50:40

nine miles into the

50:42

crust. All right.

50:43

You know, I mean, there had been oil drilling expeditions

50:46

and things like that before. But this was

50:48

really generally a pure

50:50

science mission. It was partly

50:54

just to push the technology forward just to see

50:56

what do we need to do to drill this deep

50:58

down into the Earth.

51:00

I know they had scientists there

51:03

working. What if we drill and it's like a

51:05

nut, you just crank a nut.

51:06

Put it

51:11

in perspective, though, even if they

51:13

had drilled down nine miles, that would be

51:16

substantially, substantially

51:18

less than even 1% of the way through.

51:20

So they

51:24

were not in any danger of cracking the Earth

51:26

like a nut. Now, unleashing

51:29

demons, you know, from hell,

51:31

you know, always a risk

51:33

there. But no, it was really

51:36

for pure science. It was to study

51:38

the makeup of the rocks in the Earth's crust.

51:41

They had a lot of theories about what

51:43

was going on deep, deep below the crust, but

51:45

no one obviously had ever been down there. So 1970, they started

51:47

drilling out

51:52

in the Cola Peninsula, what became known

51:54

as the Cola super deep borehole.

51:57

They started drilling with modified Lightly

52:00

oil drilling gear but along the

52:02

way they had to design a lot of custom equipment. They

52:04

had to design sensors What

52:07

was the? Can you tell me

52:09

anything about like like the radius

52:12

of this hole? Yeah. Yeah I'm

52:14

trying to picture it in my head. All right,

52:16

my hand in it You would

52:18

put your hand in it the borehole itself

52:21

that the main hole was about

52:23

nine inches across Alright, okay. You're

52:26

not you're not at risk of falling

52:29

into the ball I'm going into the hole

52:31

no person is climbing down in there But

52:34

yeah I mean you definitely want to make sure you know

52:36

your hat and sunglasses are Securely

52:38

a fixed to your head if you're peeking down in there. It

52:40

was not fast going. All right, they

52:42

started they started in 1970 drill

52:45

drill drill drill drill drill drill drill

52:48

they were taking core samples Basically

52:50

the entire time and just almost right

52:52

from beginning learning really fascinating

52:54

things

52:56

by

52:58

1979 all right, so nine

53:00

years of drilling with some you know

53:03

hurdles along the way the borehole

53:05

had passed 31,000 feet

53:08

I'm sorry How are they getting the drill

53:11

down there is the drill itself

53:13

getting the drill bit getting longer

53:15

and longer? Are they putting it down on a rope

53:17

like they're they're putting drill

53:20

You know like a sort of a casing

53:22

style drill apparatus down

53:25

the hole down the hole down the hole and adding new

53:27

pieces to the top

53:28

Essentially and you

53:30

add a new piece the top you push it down add new piece

53:33

of top push it down that makes sense They

53:35

did periodically have to swap out for new

53:37

equipment, which would mean pulling all

53:39

the Back up and starting

53:42

again So after nine years

53:45

they had passed as I say 31,000 feet

53:48

So further down into the earth

53:50

then an airplane flies above

53:52

the earth when it's flying almost almost six

53:54

miles down At

53:57

that point that set

53:59

a new record

53:59

for world's deepest hole

54:02

as of 1979 edition of deep holes global

54:07

and it passed actually What was

54:09

the previous hole? The previous

54:12

deep hole was an oil exploration

54:14

hole in good old US of A

54:16

in Oklahoma. So yeah those Soviets

54:18

they passed us. So this is like that We're doing

54:21

the space race and then we're also doing

54:23

the opposite of that. We're doing the whole

54:25

race. Yeah the Superhole. You're

54:27

you're absolutely right. I read more

54:29

than one

54:29

article Talking about the cola

54:32

super deep borehole that that likened its origins

54:34

to the space race It was really a

54:37

period with just you know Scientific competition

54:39

and one upsmanship or one

54:41

downsmanship if you will four

54:43

years after that So we're into the early 80s

54:46

now. All right, they've been drilling for 13 years the

54:50

borehole passed 39,000 feet

54:53

and I know these numbers They're

54:55

hard to envision because we don't deal

54:57

with something this deep or long on a daily basis

55:00

But 39,000 feet. Wait,

55:01

wait, how tall is the

55:03

tallest man-made building? Is it still the

55:05

Burj Khalifa?

55:06

It is still the Burj Khalifa Oh,

55:09

yes, it is The orders

55:11

of magnitude. Oh

55:12

my god, the Burj Khalifa is only

55:16

2700 I

55:16

should also clarify that there

55:18

wasn't strictly speaking just

55:20

one

55:21

Path so as they were drilling the borehole

55:24

they would sometimes have to stop and

55:27

Basically come back up and start again sort

55:29

of branching off the main If

55:33

you could if you could do a sort of a cross

55:35

section looking at the the holes like we

55:37

had like an ant farm or something Like that, you know,

55:40

you would see one main pilot hole and then

55:42

periodically you would see ones kind of branching off

55:44

at slight angles There were no fewer than five

55:47

total borehole ends, even

55:49

though they all started at the same surface After

55:52

they passed 39,000 feet they they

55:54

paused the project for about a year

55:57

kind of to just Have

55:59

a bunch of

55:59

Ceremonial visits a lot of scientists

56:02

came to check it out. It was it was a big

56:04

deal This was a really big accomplishment They

56:07

needed to sort of you know, let the PR sort

56:09

of do its thing and get more

56:11

funding that you know, that's right Well, we'll

56:13

come back to that in a moment here. Oh, they

56:15

started back up again in 84 Encounter

56:18

problems with the drill stopped again started

56:20

again in 86, you know, it kind of went like this

56:24

Stop and start stop and start by 1989 all

56:28

right 19 years after they

56:30

had started the borehole passed

56:35

40,000 feet. All right, we're around 12 kilometers

56:38

for our metric friends. It reached its lowest

56:40

depth at 40,000 230 feet

56:43

so Extremely

56:47

deep that was that was the borehole

56:50

number three.

56:51

That's so many birds. Kalee

56:52

upside down for it Burj Khalifa's

56:55

yeah, it is

56:55

it's deeper than Mount

56:57

Everest stacked on top of

56:59

Mount Fuji. It is Wow At

57:02

this point deeper than the Mariana

57:04

trench So now think

57:06

things were tricky here, right? All right, so I

57:08

mean they're going into uncharted

57:10

territory They're inventing new sensors

57:13

to take yeah. Yeah, bits

57:15

would break drills would get stuck.

57:18

There was extreme Pressure

57:21

down there. Yeah, I mean, as you can imagine

57:23

extreme pressure Extreme

57:26

heat and it turned out that the

57:28

heat in fact was one

57:31

of the biggest obstacles

57:33

to continuing the drilling Was

57:36

they they had expected to find

57:38

rocks basically at the boiling

57:40

temperature of water to over 200 degrees?

57:43

Fahrenheit when they got down at depth

57:45

they were encountering rocks that were closer

57:48

to 360 degrees Fahrenheit

57:50

It's not like molten rock

57:53

on its own but down that deep with

57:55

that much pressure I

57:56

read in more than one place that it was like

57:59

trying to drill into into plastic or

58:01

like a pudding almost. Like

58:03

the rock would hit it and it would just, it

58:05

would almost be semi liquid. Rock pudding.

58:08

Right. You know, if

58:10

you would stop drilling, it would just sort of form

58:12

back up around the hole. Oh yeah.

58:15

Materials, they just don't behave the

58:17

same way they do up on the surface at that kind

58:19

of pressure and heat.

58:21

So Karen, right, I mean, as you mentioned

58:24

a moment ago, in addition to the physical and scientific

58:27

challenges, a project like this requires

58:29

a good amount of money. Money.

58:32

Yeah. Now, can you guys

58:35

think of anything that might have affected the

58:37

availability of funding in

58:39

the Soviet Union in the early

58:41

1990s? Hmm,

58:44

probably the fact that it disappears. Yeah,

58:46

probably the total collapse of their government

58:49

is gonna have a cast a pall on funding.

58:51

Yeah, and basically the funding

58:53

dried up. They stopped drilling by 1994. And

58:58

then over the next several to 10 years

59:00

or so, the project was essentially

59:03

decommissioned. The station was abandoned. The

59:06

borehole. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

59:08

you can see pictures of it. It's not super

59:11

obscure. You can go online and find photos of

59:13

where the old site was. You can find

59:15

some pretty neat photos of the borehole itself.

59:19

Although you can't like look

59:21

down into the borehole because it was totally

59:23

sealed. There's a very, very

59:26

serious looking cap, bolted,

59:28

welted, sealed on this thing. They do

59:30

not want you going down in there. It's plugged. It

59:33

is kaput.

59:34

So that is in fact the deepest

59:37

artificial hole. Still to this day, it is

59:39

the deepest hole in

59:41

the earth. There have been other

59:44

boreholes that are

59:47

longer, but they're

59:49

more for like oil wells where they kind of tend

59:51

to go at an angle. Oh, at an angle, yeah.

59:54

That's right. So the Cola super deep borehole,

59:56

still the deepest. So what are some of the,

59:58

it's a good fan name. Great. band

1:00:00

name, Kola Superby Borehole, what

1:00:02

are some of the things they found? Well, they found,

1:00:05

they found fossils of microscopic

1:00:07

organisms, billion years

1:00:09

old, you know, that they just were multiple

1:00:12

species that they did not expect to find or

1:00:14

see. This blew me away. This is this

1:00:17

is my kind of takeaway. Wow, Nugget, when

1:00:19

they got to around three

1:00:22

miles or so down, they

1:00:25

started seeing water. And

1:00:28

this was a big surprise to the

1:00:30

scientists because the prevailing

1:00:33

belief among geologists

1:00:35

and scientists time was that there was no

1:00:37

way there could be free water

1:00:39

that far down below the surface. Like

1:00:42

it was too dense, too

1:00:45

far down for water to make it. Yeah,

1:00:47

I mean, right. No one believed it. In fact, there

1:00:49

was apparently some skepticism from the larger

1:00:51

scientific community when the Soviet scientists were

1:00:53

first reporting this, but they

1:00:56

like no, look, guys, we got water here. It's

1:00:58

here. Where did it come from? It's the rock is cracked and

1:01:00

send the cracks. They believe

1:01:02

the

1:01:03

pressure

1:01:05

at these depths was so

1:01:07

great, so unfathomably

1:01:10

intense, that it essentially

1:01:13

squeezed out oxygen

1:01:17

and hydrogen

1:01:18

atoms from the very

1:01:20

rocks themselves. Ringing like

1:01:23

a towel.

1:01:24

Yes, so pressure like

1:01:26

squeezing it out, like you say, like a towel

1:01:28

or a sponge and forming water.

1:01:31

And then the water had nowhere to go. It couldn't it couldn't

1:01:33

migrate up. It couldn't evaporate.

1:01:35

And it just sat there. It's stuck.

1:01:37

Yeah, kind

1:01:38

of stuck there in the rocks. And I say this a

1:01:40

lot, you know, going,

1:01:41

going underwater or going into the earth,

1:01:44

you deal with pressures that are just

1:01:46

unimaginable, like it's going to space

1:01:48

is not. Yeah, yeah. And definitely

1:01:51

right. They milk rocks.

1:01:54

How yet exactly they were milking the rocks,

1:01:57

Karen. That's right. Milking rocks

1:01:59

in the coal is super

1:01:59

deep borehole. It's a hit single.

1:02:02

Yeah, like I say, I encourage you go online,

1:02:04

look for some pictures. It's not much to look at, but

1:02:07

it kind of gives you a little sense of what the flavor might

1:02:09

have been of working at the borehole site in

1:02:11

the 70s or 80s. Wow.

1:02:14

Just had to share that with you guys. We

1:02:16

now know the

1:02:17

deepest hole ever

1:02:20

created by humans.

1:02:23

I'm

1:02:23

surprised there hasn't been a horror movie

1:02:26

written with this as the setting.

1:02:28

And just a real good reminder

1:02:30

that like, the earth does

1:02:33

not want us down

1:02:35

there. Yeah. Or maybe

1:02:37

even on it. Don't go down there.

1:02:42

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