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everyone and welcome to episode number 316

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of the weekly google cloud platform podcast

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this is stephanie wang and

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today i'm here with kelsey how you kelsey

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how are you from

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year because it's your last week of

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your internship it is i'm

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finally ended that i

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even had the opportunity you

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have done such an

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outstanding job and it's so perfect

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that you came to me with this episode topic

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because i know it's near and dear to you so

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why don't you give us a teaser about what we're talking

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today right awesome so the two people that

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i've invited today to talk i've

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worked with them over the summer of on a multiple

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things one of the most substantial being the

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csi program offers

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a teaching computer principles to

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students who might not have a lot of

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experience in tech or coating

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at all and just seeing have both of them have

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worked with students in that program

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and other programs like the google cloud speaker series

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has really just brought to my there's

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so much to talk about with the google cloud,

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higher education and students in purdue madcap

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so wanted to give them an

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opportunity to share their stories and

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lori is also on our team so it's

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really great to hear about what she does on

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a day to day they both have

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so many great personal stories that they

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bring to the conversation today you

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are in on a great episode

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that's coming up but

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first we are going to dive into the

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cool things of the week

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michael

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things of the week

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because i'm cheating and fan hill two

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articles that are written people

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outside of google

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the first being

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a senior machine learning

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engineer at wayfarer christian

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and he writes about their experience migrating

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to use vertex a i so

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at first their ai platform that they

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used meant that they needed to create their own

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unique bottle production as they should process

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and it was very legacy so they've since migrate

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over to vertex they are pipelines and built a

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c i c d and scheduling pipeline

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so they were able to work with the google

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team to build a much more efficient process and

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you can read all about that and the results

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in that blog posts the second blog

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post is from artem

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the chief software architect and champion

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innovator part of the google cloud champion

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interviewed or program and he writes about some

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really exciting features and kind

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of lesser known capabilities on be queried

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to optimize your querying like

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using the auto columns multi statement transactions

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clustering and indexes and

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talks about his personal favorites and why

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they have been so instrumental and how he is able

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to do his name a few you think they are so

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to great articles written by folks outside

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and have really become amazing

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champions for us and i'd also

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want to quickly plug that if you're interested in becoming

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a google cloud innovator then check out cloud

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dot google dot com slash innovators and you'll get

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access to exclusive events and

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get the chance to write on our blog

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that's awesome this what's going on so

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michael thing of the week because you know i'm following

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the rules oh i got called

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outside lc out

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of the i think that has been here too long

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anticipated i get it the cool

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thing is that the clinical decision support

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system a solution has been bill and

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has been released so basically

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this is of c d s as is an

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important technology that healthcare providers can use

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to we get better reads more accurate reads on

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their patience and i think that's

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really cool because you know we're going through multiple

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global pandemic at this point this is

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really important just to see the bridge of technology

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and healthcare kind of growing even further

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in this field and in this time that we're living

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through i think this project really cool

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the lead of the project actually the

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road that there are a lot of things going on with

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ai model that they're using and is actually a couple

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of minutes some hopefully some of you are familiar

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with vertex ai the

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even her natural

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language a pie things like that and

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so i really thought it was cool because there's so

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much

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to discover in the field than in this

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bridges

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there's a lot happening and healthcare space

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and them comparing the result

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of three different ml models using a prize

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and custom models is really fascinating

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because there is a lot needed

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and kelsey we're working on some stuff and

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healthcare space as law that will talk about and second

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by it's great to see a lot of advances

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the bait but before we tend

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to deep into that save i do wanna take wanna back

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and he kind of transition over to our

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conversation with laurie and aaron

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who are helping out

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for a google cloud for higher education

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laurie an errand thank you so much for joining

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to me start off by telling us a little bit about

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yourself sure i

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worked in higher ed

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over thirty years as a professor of computer

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and something that

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really frustrated me there was

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not being able to keep the curriculum

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up with the

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acknowledging

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and it frustrated me so

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much that i decided to retire

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and five days later google called

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me though i have

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been here for six and a half years

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trying to help other faculty members

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use the cloud in particular so

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that they can

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keep their technology or

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their courses up with current technology

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the timing was really impeccable fence

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series out right after retired and

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aaron

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hello i'm aaron gates i

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have had an interesting path to working

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with students in google cloud has been

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twenty years that i've worked in education

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and education outreach sitting what's

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a very interesting and actually applicable

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to that is working on education

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campaigns for the state of texas and

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educating consumers and texans

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on a wide variety of topics that

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are a little difficult to synthesize the

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you really have to dig deep to find that

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common space alright awesome

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so that users will for joining us today we

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just wanted to talk with you more on a casual

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level to kind of find out more about what you guys

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do here man how you two inch

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contribute to google cloud and then all

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the initiatives that go on here so

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i just wanted to ask you both why is it

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important to bring google cloud educate

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the marriage to students okay

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the me i said sexist

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cloud is a technology that's

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already

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i don't even wanna talk about it as technology

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up the future they will see there

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is a

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lot of use a cloud

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students are graduating without the

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ability to understand the club

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different from on premise

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computing

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i want to make it as easy

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as possible for faculty

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to integrate cloud into their classes

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and they don't need to have iran classes lotta

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places it can work it so

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that students are better prepared

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when they go out and look for jobs awesome

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and

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i try hard to complement lorries

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where we produced materials

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such as a common speaker

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series which is a hands on workshop where

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our engineers are involved in moving

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students through labs and

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being the personification of google but

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as well being the personification of

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concepts that's important

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to me and showing the students that they have

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an opportunity outside

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of the classroom and not only that

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opportunity to learn but that opportunity

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to connect and connect to those engineers

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know that's awesome i think that's a porn to keep

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in mind especially

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the move forward as laurie said we're not

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in the future we are in the now exactly

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and laurie you mention

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the bit about your career just before

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google but i want to hear about

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what your career or skills were originally

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in for both you and and how did

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you end up in the separate position

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my initials are l a w when

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my mother was

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pregnant with me she walked around the law school

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campus , we lived

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i was supposed to grow supposed to be a lawyer

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my senior year of college i

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the traditional freely history

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classes and

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hated them with a passion the idea

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that

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reality depended on what a person

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thought seemed ridiculous

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to me and i was taking beginning computing

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classes

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the same time which was very rare

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, this was in the late seventies and

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i loved it because truth there was

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truth so

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the decided instead of go into law school

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i would go back and get a degree in computer

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yeah so got a masters there

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and , is another one where as soon

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as i walked in the door they said would you like

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to be

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show started teaching my first

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semester graduate school loved it and

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stayed with with the next forty

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years

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that's a substantial amount of time net

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also says a sense that's a different

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era of computing than we are now

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yeah i was really thrilled

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when i got to go to the advanced class and

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used punch cards instead of pay

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the cape neither of which i

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assume you've seen kelsey

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i'm not familiar i'm

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sure classes are very different now and with

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the help of what you're doing here what these from than

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that aaron what about you how did you land

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in this space

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i never expected to be in the space

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i did expect that i would finish

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my career as a teacher i enjoy

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bringing to life education however

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my path for simple banking and

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from now what i really like we

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share the students that their

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experiences on thursdays become talking

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points on their resume

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in building opportunity for

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conversation in their interview that

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they are confident in so

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i went from banking with my talking points

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to advertising and marketing

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that's when i was working on education

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campaigns for the state of texas

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and if you ever need to know anything about

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electric deregulation in

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the state of texas i am more than happy

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to share the history the current

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and have a shop for your letter provider

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that it also involves health campaigns man

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a , campaigns is important

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information that needs to be shared that's

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not necessarily entertaining an

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idol like bringing again

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lies to things that sometimes

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people sigh when

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in there about the seventy oh

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here i go i'm gonna learn that's

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the space i want to be in i want to be in that

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side where i can fill in the

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sky and bring the excitement

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so that's that's how i ended

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up the in education and

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ended up you

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i'm so glad that you brought up a lot of the things

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that you work with is making and applicable

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for students to apply later talking

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points are they can reuse elsewhere outside

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of does the peruvians that you guys teach and you guys volunteer

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with say one of his ass more

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what else do you guys do to address some

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of the problem that you see with students

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the technique teaching tax

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educating them on time especially

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with google cloud

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i'm in i'm really peculiar position

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i do most of my outreach to

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faculty because as

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you can attest

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sure kelsey

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the modern student is very very busy

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and while there are some outstanding students

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who have

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the time to learn things that aren't required

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by classes

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most of them are just happy

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keep up with your course work so i'm

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trying to help faculty bring listen to their

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coursework

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and has a time

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when you ask me i'm going to tell us we really

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don't have that much for faculty and

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the other half i say we have so

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many opportunities that

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when i tried his show them to everybody

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they just feel like they're

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in from a firehouse

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and they feel overwhelmed like so i'm

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trying to make this something that

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do a book so

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i'm going to get to go to conferences again

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for the last two years i have

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the to conferences

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because of coded and now i

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get to go and

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a lot of the vendors

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at conferences will sit there

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table and when

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the day is over they leave i go

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and during

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presentations i sit in on presentations

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and hear what faculty say because i'm a

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faculty member still i have of marital

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status i , and i

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sit with them it banquets had answer foolish

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questions from their students and

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i had one professor come up after and

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six

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well you know my opinion of google

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has changed since meeting

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this is the kind of

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rita oh my what

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is he going to say next owners

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as he said the y'all

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are just so much better than

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i expected oh

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thank you very glad so

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who say they have a very

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personal approach because

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my background and

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so i try to reach students through

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that we have

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once material for faculty see

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use the , skills

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post that air and uses his more

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than just lab that their full pathway

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some students can go out and learn things and

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i tried some faculty had this will make their

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trap easier and that was very

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nice during covert because they didn't have to put

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together to put sake of sex

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go out and do this lesson

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we have curriculum and

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i

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the know

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well i'm not working completely at google

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scale because of professors

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going i don't understand this i

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still can find the time to

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sit down with them in a video

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and for and say let's talk about it

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fortunately they almost always

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come out cohen wow that's easier than i

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thought i need to start doing this

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exactly exactly

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i know that air and you kind of help flory on

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that aspect us tag team on a lot of projects

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initiatives and things like that you guys

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mind telling us all a bit more about today today may

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be starting with us

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they'd a day

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i'm enjoying the change they change

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in the last two years that laurie was referring to the

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we have a new crop of students who

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are having a new campus experience the

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students you really their pre covered are

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in the last year or their graduated and

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because i get to work with student organizations

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these students are an interesting space

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that hand off hand that handbook for

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handbook student organizations may have graduated

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and so my day to day is

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an opportunity to mentor the

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students and video costs

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like laureate us and to sit with

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them and say hey this is our perspective

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as google cloud this is

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your opportunity and let me share with you

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my recommendations from my career

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as how you can move forward net is

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my day to day right now it's going

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to become i don't think we talked

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about hackathons is going to become event

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face and encouraging

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the students to go to weekend

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events and use their skills

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for projects that are a passion and

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projects that are coursework so

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, about to move into his face when

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school returns whereas

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encouragement and i would

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say for say good part of my day

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excitement and day excitement level of

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happiness when these things

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unfold smoothly and these students

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are putting together events

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and putting together projects that

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their products so i stood

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a large portion of my day excited

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in reflecting and building

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and then taking that learning it would those

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students did and bringing it

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to their fellow students

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and colleagues that they don't even work

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with and bringing together morgan state

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university and tearing

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them with virginia

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letting them learn from one another in those it does

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it you groups of students that aren't too far away

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from one another but in a normal

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day to day would never interact the

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i help put the puzzle pieces together

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then it makes for great day it's fantastic

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that's awesome that even your job excites ah

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i love hearing the past and then it cause we really

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do need that especially with students and

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i was just on twitter space talking about certifications

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that we offer but the consensus

16:52

the thought you know certifications and curriculum

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are so important as a foundation

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but knowledge without action is futile so

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what i love about these programs as that's they're

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giving you hands on experience through the

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skills booze challenges through the hackathons

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the that students can walk away where applicable

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knowledge and projects to add

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to their portfolio and help them prepare for whatever

17:13

it may be that they want to do outside

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of school so i do what

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i hear a little bit more about what google

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cloud's higher education program is

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like as well as the outreach initiatives what's

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unique about them and how do they

17:26

further both this partnership between

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google cloud and the higher

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education space

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one of the reasons laureate i work together

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is laurie is going top to bottom he's

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going faculty the students and i'm

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going students to career and

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it's very interesting be able to work with laurie

17:45

the do that on my side we

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, suiting clubs on campuses

17:50

in we again mentor students on how

17:52

to build a club and how to share

17:54

product knowledge that was

17:56

a skill knowledge i think would be a little

17:58

bit better skills

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then we use google cloud

18:03

skills piss in an online platform

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that has an entirely different team that

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is put together this fantastic

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opportunity and i get to work

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with and i'm excited to work

18:14

with it because we get to share it with students not

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as here's who google cloud

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is but more so like here's how

18:20

this works here's

18:23

this piece of technology and

18:25

building student groups that share that with

18:27

one another and the common experience they have

18:29

is learning about products like building

18:32

a virtual machine on google cloud

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i mean we can take up the last three words

18:36

it's building a virtual machine is

18:39

what they're connecting with regardless of

18:41

on google cloud yeah

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i think it it resonates with the students were giving

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them content they can

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take and build community upon

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and

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when i was teaching i

18:54

wanted students to learn those latest

18:56

technologies even if i could the

18:58

get it in the curriculum so i ran

19:01

a predecessor to these clubs actually

19:03

we had google developer grip

19:05

on my campus and it was wonderful

19:08

for students they got

19:10

to do leadership do leadership of years old

19:12

i would do is go out by the pizza the for them

19:16

it was was google developer groups

19:18

we had a lot of members of the community also

19:20

com and they got to meet our students

19:23

and many of

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didn't see or found jobs as

19:26

a result

19:27

you know they say i'm looking for someone for this

19:29

position you interested in the student would

19:32

go

19:33

that was

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the lover you mentioned that it was something that went

19:37

straight into jobs because i think that's a key

19:39

seats sure [unk] applied in general it's

19:41

a applicable skills that can go right on

19:43

the resume there's no second or third

19:45

wall that you have to hit before you can see

19:48

the value in the product of learning something

19:50

like this and i think that's amazing

19:52

the report and step back to what stephanie

19:55

was saying i've been

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a leader and leader member

19:58

the international

19:59

the group on cloud education

20:02

for the last five years

20:04

and this year or special

20:06

the focus was on had a certification

20:09

sit into edge case because

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there's such a possibility for people

20:13

to go oh my gosh

20:15

are you from eating with education and that's at

20:18

all what we want to do

20:19

conclusion that we have

20:21

the certifications that are appropriate

20:23

for undergraduate students that

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they don't take three to four years

20:29

of experience on cloud

20:31

the so not only do we have

20:33

the certifications we offer to

20:35

pro that include video

20:37

, labs sample

20:40

exams and even credit

20:42

for taking the exam that

20:44

faculty can sign up for we

20:47

have material so that somebody

20:49

who was in my position and ran

20:51

student group would not

20:53

have to do all the instruction it gets the basically

20:56

the slides for three seconds and

20:58

it's like here's how you run the seconds and here's

21:01

all the support we have for you

21:02

so that's one of the

21:04

that we're doing to try

21:05

and make it easier for

21:06

the to do this and help get their student

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certified

21:10

however you mentioned that students don't

21:13

necessarily need to be competing

21:15

with like this is not at this is not a program

21:17

that competing with education in general so

21:19

students only to feel like they're good the up on

21:21

one thing to make use of the other

21:23

it's a supplementary addition

21:25

to what there are a landing and i kind

21:27

of wanted to ask what students are you targeting

21:30

when you say you have all these programs these hacker

21:32

barnes who exactly are you reaching out

21:34

to

21:35

the given is a pretty nice

21:37

that is an interesting question

21:40

because we work

21:42

hard to build community the students

21:44

and we do that with content just happens

21:46

kind of kills you what you're talking about it just happens that

21:49

content is helping the

21:51

students to connect and

21:53

, help build community requires

21:56

that we reach out the students who are already

21:58

student leaders the have found

22:00

a value in outside of the classroom

22:03

work and they understand that these types

22:05

of things are bullet points on a resume discussion

22:09

by , build and to

22:11

speak to the future student leaders we

22:13

have to start with students who are just

22:15

entering school i during their second year

22:18

so then how does that content play right

22:21

i mean we're providing them with google cloud content

22:23

were like oh now go have a career well

22:26

we like to provide these students with i

22:28

would say like a sampler laurie

22:30

was talking about certifications and in that

22:32

takes time and we've worked hard

22:35

to bring it three or certification to

22:37

a forty hour a concentrated pathway

22:40

that that goes on linked it however

22:44

to be able to do that we need the

22:46

help the students understand what

22:49

they like in help them

22:51

sample different products different

22:54

concepts importantly concepts

22:56

to see what excites them and

22:59

we're very transparent when

23:01

we work with the students as he had this

23:03

content we would love for you to

23:05

work with these concepts but we

23:07

also if they're not your thing we'd

23:10

love to see you next week as we work on something

23:12

else so when i

23:15

bringing the students through the entire pathway

23:17

were ticking off this opportunity

23:20

and if we're doing our jobs

23:22

well we're building that excitement

23:25

that helps then then move onto

23:27

that next step my day to day that's

23:29

what i get to see enough to keep

23:31

the ball rolling

23:32

healthy

23:34

i appreciate the student leaders

23:36

in the students who are gonna become leaders

23:38

and i think it google

23:40

we sometimes get blind to the fact

23:42

that there are other students because so

23:45

many googlers were that

23:47

ah percentile of their class

23:50

and so i want to make it so

23:52

that there's incentive

23:54

for all students even those who will never

23:57

go to an extracurricular activity to

23:59

the skills because it's good

24:02

for them

24:02

the

24:05

they were working with faculties

24:07

showing them how they can included in the curriculum

24:11

and it's actually solves actually lot

24:13

of pro for some faculty because

24:15

there like i need my students

24:17

to have a linux machine but how do i

24:19

get them linux machine i

24:22

, provide one for each student on campus

24:24

or each student my class helping

24:27

could he do this we're helping

24:29

faculty were getting students the cloud

24:31

experience they need so trying

24:34

to find that intersectionality it's

24:36

really important and ,

24:38

i spent a lot of time doing and fortunately

24:41

i thought at

24:42

smaller school

24:44

and so i got to experience

24:46

teaching a lot of different classes so

24:48

when somebody says oh let

24:50

me tell you about operating systems operating can say

24:52

yeah i know about operating system

24:54

since talk to me about programming

24:57

languages and

24:58

he i have a little experience

25:00

with the introductory course

25:02

so that's another

25:04

way that we for each student's

25:06

not just the best of them but we're trying to get

25:09

all could beat benefit from cloud

25:11

skill

25:12

two sides of the same going

25:13

i'd like to work with lorries

25:16

thoughts on what students were working

25:18

and very much those

25:21

and now googlers that where the top percentage what

25:23

is our challenge to bring content

25:27

maybe even events to smaller

25:29

schools it difficult

25:32

it is very difficult

25:34

and we

25:36

love and work hard to do it that

25:39

we can't always achieve our goals

25:41

when it comes to reaching out to the schools

25:44

and perhaps it's people listening

25:46

to things like this an understanding

25:49

what we have available that it

25:51

provides the opportunity at

25:53

the smaller schools it's not easy

25:56

we don't see the number of students

25:58

and the numbers schools that would like to

26:01

and it's not from a lack of effort is from

26:03

a lack of identifying him

26:06

we welcome the schools

26:08

reaching out because we're ready we're

26:10

ready to help we just need

26:12

to find the right person so

26:14

yes day to day is happy day to

26:16

day is also hey what can i support

26:19

i know i have many things to software

26:21

so let's put a smile

26:23

on it and try to solve it

26:25

i really do hope that this podcast gets in

26:27

the hands of the right people just to learn

26:30

about what we have to offer because it sounds like

26:32

it's really a win win win situation right

26:34

when for the faculty who want

26:36

to augment their curriculum with

26:38

these resources it's great for the students

26:41

who are really passionate about it and wanted

26:43

work on things outside of class and

26:45

for google cloud's a partner with used to share

26:47

what we have available i , i

26:49

remember when i was in school we didn't learn

26:51

cloud at all i wish we did i

26:53

was in a research apprenticeship where we visualize

26:55

social media analytics that i was using

26:58

you know we were manually labeling data to

27:00

analyze the sentiment of tweets and

27:02

if i had known that we had an l p analysis from

27:05

google apiarist i would have totally use that

27:07

even if it was still nascent back then

27:09

so i personally see such value and then

27:11

and i'm curious laurie how

27:14

our faculties receiving this type of

27:16

partnership you had a story earlier about

27:18

a member who said that he had

27:20

his opinion of google change in a positive

27:22

way but are they overall seeing it as valuable

27:25

the ones that we get to yes most of them

27:28

are seeing it as well

27:28

the

27:30

we have a lot of repeat customers

27:32

something that we do for faculty

27:35

is , the ability for students

27:37

to use the google cloud and

27:40

by this we mean google

27:43

cloud we don't say oh here's

27:45

a sandbox

27:45

and you can only do labs

27:47

or

27:48

here's a sandbox but if you want a gp

27:50

you forget it we provide

27:53

fifty dollars in credit and say go for it

27:55

starts it watch cp use they have to go through

27:57

the steps of requesting them like anybody

27:59

else

27:59

but

28:01

how long would providing credits we

28:03

do not

28:04

since the the credit card

28:06

and this is really important

28:09

faculty week is

28:11

it on a per class

28:12

students in two or three

28:14

classes they get

28:16

fun for each of those classes

28:19

the that's really exciting ice

28:21

well i see the faculty you come back

28:24

what i have a community of two

28:27

thousand of them

28:28

i'm who ask each other questions

28:30

and answer them for each other because i've been out of

28:32

the classroom for seven years and

28:34

i didn't get to teach club back then

28:37

they , very supportive community when

28:40

we show up at of than

28:42

say like seeing us they

28:44

come up and think that

28:45

which it's like to sit with

28:47

me for five minutes

28:48

how other people here that i've

28:50

, to be at presentations

28:54

there was one where the keynote speaker said oh

28:56

yeah i'm doing this stuff and

28:57

the question he get a

28:59

better

29:00

you're using all this fancy data how do

29:02

we use it because we don't have the

29:04

resources that , have

29:08

an

29:08

he pointed to me in the back

29:10

of the room said you've got google cloud

29:12

here

29:13

the winner her for funds for your research

29:16

the before and many

29:18

hot to the i go to

29:20

maybe this is why i go to the talks

29:22

with the speaker has come up with this

29:25

with cloud so it's nice to see

29:28

because

29:28

as an academic when i started

29:32

i didn't literature review of cloud

29:34

in the classroom and google cloud didn't show

29:36

up at anywhere

29:37

but we didn't have an act

29:39

them at program

29:41

when i start it's and i'm very proud

29:44

to be one of the people who started it and

29:46

tried to make it make cycle to friendlies possible

29:49

awesome items are good associate you

29:51

mentioned you guys provide the

29:54

things that she they need the overcome

29:56

that hurdle i know as soon myself like

29:58

cost something that's the hard to

30:01

bad with especially in tech everything's already

30:03

expensive and so are trying to be able

30:05

to decide what to prioritize what

30:07

to spend money on what to learn

30:09

and in terms of cost and terms of

30:11

time google cloud is definitely one of the things

30:13

that i've been putting on top of my list over

30:15

and over again

30:17

welp kill see

30:19

before you go to aaron please make

30:21

sure your professors and know we're out here

30:23

i'm who is stephanie will them

30:26

in and tell him to retire i

30:28

wanted to tag an end to this conversation

30:30

because i think it really good topics laurie

30:32

mentioned a lot of the things that go on with her

30:34

reaching out the faculty trying to bridge

30:36

that gap and overcome her those are

30:38

the some things that go on an your and

30:41

that you consider hurdles and something that

30:43

you kind of due to bridge that as well

30:45

you gonna question we work

30:47

with students who

30:50

are learning new technologies i think we covered

30:52

that we're encouraging them to go

30:54

to hackathons and hackathons

30:56

v community but bills projects

30:59

that are their past right and

31:01

build with concepts and

31:03

so to do that we provide

31:05

them much like lori was saying we provide

31:07

them with google cloud credits

31:10

and twenty five dollars in those credits it

31:12

is very important to note that that

31:14

does not require payment method the students

31:16

are scared of that of course so education point

31:18

one hey you don't need a credit card

31:21

education point to we're

31:23

here to help you use the

31:25

, provide the students were credits and

31:27

we want them to build passion projects

31:30

using our credit we send engineers

31:33

we send engineers to mentor the students

31:35

to to and

31:37

humanize what is this cloud

31:40

computing and hopefully remove

31:42

that barrier may have instead

31:44

of lugging online and searching for an answer

31:47

to be able to walk up and say hey

31:49

i the question about this can you help i

31:52

rally the volunteer mentors

31:55

my rally them i recruit

31:57

them and i send them off and

31:59

that's that's

31:59

the part of my job

32:01

what i have to share with them and

32:03

in a reality check to let laurie was

32:05

saying the number one question that

32:08

students ask our engineers is

32:10

how do i add these credits to

32:13

the console and

32:15

right there is step one

32:18

if students had to go and

32:20

google how do i put credits on a console

32:23

they've moved beyond their building their projects

32:25

their don't have time for this but to walk

32:27

over and asked that initial question

32:30

to build upon google cloud you've got

32:32

to get into the console the console

32:35

engineers they go wait what

32:37

is that what i'm helping with and am a

32:39

yeah absolutely that is your number

32:41

one question so as we do

32:43

our volunteer training let's all

32:46

take the clock and wind it back

32:48

to being a student when you had

32:50

that question when our engineers need

32:53

to look back in time

32:56

in that's at well i'm so appreciative

32:59

of how they spend their weekends mean

33:01

we're talking about consistent weekends

33:03

from the beginning of september

33:06

until the end of december then

33:08

we reboot after some holiday break and

33:10

we have an amazing team and spin

33:12

in the past one hundred and twenty different engineers

33:15

well have facilitated these opportunities

33:18

for students that's amazing

33:20

that's amazing i just wanted

33:22

to give a quick call out because i was

33:24

i judge for the google

33:26

student developers clubs solution

33:29

day challenge recently and that

33:31

one another great opportunity for students to

33:34

build a team and korea really

33:37

great solution or application

33:39

on mobile or web that helped achieve

33:41

one of the sustainable goals

33:43

from the united nations and i was

33:45

so blown away

33:47

by the quality what

33:50

was built so i

33:52

just see

33:53

these programs and initiatives

33:55

i opportunities for students to

33:57

be just so so valuable and

33:59

learning i'm getting hands on and building

34:01

connections and also getting mentorship from

34:04

google engineers so i'm really

34:06

appreciative of what you to do in the space

34:08

because i think we need more of it yeah

34:10

, just kinda wanna hear a little bit

34:12

more about some stories some

34:14

success stories that you've seen or

34:17

even just stories from hackathons or programs

34:19

you've led throughout the years maybe

34:21

we start with laurie okay

34:24

i have one that just

34:26

makes me happy

34:27

all over the kids

34:29

go to conferences that our regional

34:31

in the us and

34:34

this means that small

34:35

there's schools can send

34:38

their students and

34:40

smaller schools can attend because they

34:42

run typically from noon friday

34:45

till noon

34:45

saturday

34:47

the we may have

34:49

the smokers that error was talking

34:51

earlier about reaching out anyway

34:54

had one of these conferences they had

34:56

student presentations and i

34:59

, up and the student was presenting

35:03

using our vision a pr and

35:06

it was really exciting and i said

35:08

right where did you get the credit and like the professor

35:11

side up with his credit card so

35:14

i found the professor told him about

35:16

our grants program

35:17

and he was frills

35:19

and he actually was doing a presentation

35:21

the next day and this and

35:23

he mentioned or program and said and said

35:26

for it at

35:27

well he didn't pay they stayed under the free women

35:30

said i i put my credit card down

35:32

but google will pay for

35:33

it and i was they are going yes i

35:35

will so

35:37

the great and it was a nice story and six

35:39

months later another one of these conferences

35:41

i see the same students and

35:44

there's using are granted they're doing

35:46

their poster presentation and

35:48

they come and sit with me at the

35:50

able with smoke and for

35:51

we don't have proof and she's just

35:54

the real the telling everybody and

35:57

six months later i see them again

35:59

and

36:02

i'm way

36:03

he and i say this is great i'll see

36:06

you again and six months she said no you

36:08

want

36:08

and it's like why

36:10

won't i feel like a great

36:12

you waiting at the end of the term and i went oh

36:15

okay so how's the job hot coming

36:18

she went oh it's ross and

36:20

i would oh i'm really sorry and

36:22

she says she i have too many offers

36:25

way

36:25

another

36:29

excuse always the approx one

36:32

and she's like yeah i show

36:34

them this project that i did with google cloud

36:36

and everybody wants to hire me so

36:41

ah ok

36:43

good trouble to have i am glad

36:46

it's rough for

36:47

it's a good kind of trouble

36:50

yeah

36:52

there and i know you have stories from

36:54

hack up on the sweat tears

36:56

and wins

36:58

when the world's shifting

37:00

you online learning and

37:02

even in creating online connections

37:04

online relationships as

37:07

fellow students no one was

37:09

prepared that includes of course

37:11

google and our team got together

37:14

and lawyer and part of this a lot of different

37:16

groups within the company

37:18

were a part of asking okay

37:21

what can we do in regards to perhaps

37:23

the students being bored i mean

37:25

a was as simple as i bet

37:27

they're bored support and

37:29

hey we've got this aaron guy sitting

37:31

around who is working on in

37:33

person events i bet he's bored and

37:36

i was bored

37:38

the we looked for a solution

37:40

and we've built

37:42

for the students a project opportunity

37:45

it was the covert nineteen happened on fun

37:47

and we granted

37:50

student projects up to five thousand dollars

37:52

in credit to solve for challenges

37:55

we left it open the

37:57

solve for whatever

37:59

you want to blink to be after that solving

38:01

for building and

38:04

the success stories the students that

38:07

through our outreach however they found us because

38:09

we didn't know we were doing we didn't they

38:11

found our outreach in they

38:13

signed up the bill teams and

38:16

and they built projects then

38:19

we had to add we're the

38:21

as part of vr yeah he received

38:23

grants or five thousand dollars oh why

38:25

don't we admins worse do

38:27

we added a mentor bees and

38:30

these students your first day jobs

38:32

at the mentor peace and they jumped at these

38:34

projects and it was

38:36

awesome because we help

38:39

from zero to ninety

38:41

percent where they wanted that project

38:43

to be and then we gave him gave mentor

38:46

a mentor that last ten and

38:48

we say here here's the tools and

38:51

is say a success story for

38:55

the company for the individuals who

38:57

worked on it and most importantly

38:59

these students and i give them credit

39:01

i don't know how we did the best outreach

39:03

we could but there was so much noise

39:06

in the market what

39:09

the students could work with there

39:12

was opportunity here opportunity

39:14

there and how do you select so

39:17

props to the students for finding

39:19

the opportunity and excited

39:22

the number projects at work with that we

39:24

had to grow our budget yeah

39:27

so here we are like okay we have this budget

39:29

angle work with this and i'm like a o

39:32

we have a lot of answers folks

39:35

were gonna have to bump this up and

39:37

we did to the rescue

39:39

game a different team and then

39:41

kinda mentors and word got out new was like

39:43

okay here we go we had in person

39:45

events now we have created

39:47

a virtual program that nobody

39:50

saw coming the the students

39:52

were cited we were excited

39:54

and again our success sometimes

39:57

is not through planning sometimes

39:59

our success he just by happenstance

40:02

and nice students happened upon

40:04

the opportunity so thank you students

40:07

because you made my follow that years

40:09

super interesting i hope i

40:11

helped i heard i held by

40:13

i know they help me so if you're listening

40:16

thank you for making my fall

40:18

of that very different worlds we were

40:20

living in more insist

40:23

no no i think you deathly ten dawn of their

40:25

lives in the subject

40:26

what their careers are going to look like especially

40:28

your personality you definitely touched a lot

40:30

of them in the great way i'm sure they would love

40:32

to meet up with you again and just tell you

40:35

all the things that they've done so far you

40:37

, i had a student a student group

40:39

one of what lori was talking about the next

40:41

evolution of laurie student program became

40:44

a student innovator program which then has become

40:46

the google developers student clubs

40:49

so we've seen this thing grow

40:51

and kelsey it's so random

40:53

and our students got together and

40:56

it was like a a prize and award

40:58

you know it was an award for the students

41:00

working so hard and it was that

41:03

exit stage left that i

41:05

had to make they were starting school i'll

41:07

say i was a little embarrassed know that

41:10

i cried oh yeah

41:12

i've i've barely i barely cried

41:15

because i i saw the uncomfortable nif

41:19

students but then i got the hugs

41:21

afterwards so it

41:23

has so mean it is silly some

41:26

of the stuff we work with and

41:28

the vibe good

41:30

then it is just just silly there

41:32

and i think that is fun that's

41:34

good yes i agree

41:38

yeah yeah have fun with that when it's not like

41:40

he will do so that's amazing i

41:42

know we have to rub since rub since to and

41:44

with asking about lessons learned

41:47

and what you want audience to take away it's whether

41:49

it's faculty students

41:51

just general audience interested in cloud

41:54

what can you tell them about what you ontario

41:56

even during the pandemic i

41:58

know how hard it

41:59

the to change curriculum

42:01

i cried i actually

42:04

got a whole new degree program put

42:06

in and sleep

42:08

who and , definitely

42:11

have been there i know how changing

42:13

things can run into a wall and

42:15

are programs trying to help with that

42:18

we're trying to remove the barrier of

42:20

cost we're trying to remove

42:22

the barrier credit card

42:23

it's we have sample

42:25

curriculum that faculty can

42:28

request can update

42:30

i have saved an awful lot of time

42:33

in the last two years not being on airplanes

42:35

and in hotel rooms so

42:37

i'm willing to reach out and

42:39

work with individual faculty

42:42

the answer questions but i hope to see a lot

42:44

of them at conferences this fall

42:46

to

42:48

we want to help we're trying

42:50

to help with is what we're doing isn't

42:52

what you need let us down

42:54

that and

42:56

ramping up of what laurie was sharing our

42:59

programming kicked off with let's move

43:01

the students through a pathway new

43:04

then through week by week an experience

43:06

that at the end provides a credential

43:08

and we

43:11

felt like from what we

43:13

were hearing from their future employers

43:16

and light those in this

43:18

case our customers but those

43:20

technology employers period and

43:22

saw the right those employers

43:25

that needed students who are graduating

43:27

with an education of cloud and

43:30

how to work on cloud so

43:32

we made we made then we moved

43:34

from teaching the students you know hey

43:37

come with as were gonna go on a journey that's gonna

43:39

be several months and now

43:41

we've moved to hey we're going to going on a journey

43:43

that's fun we're going to try

43:45

a little bit of everything and

43:48

that's with their employers want their employers

43:50

want the concepts and the

43:52

students to have these concepts and

43:54

i was fascinated once where we had

43:56

one of our partners come in and

43:58

sudan so it okay what is

44:00

my first weekend month of work and

44:03

the answer was working

44:05

on the labs that we provide

44:08

the labs that we do on thursdays and

44:10

so the shooting was like okay so what do i do they

44:13

were like leap frog and

44:15

so concepts if we can

44:18

get the concepts and start the energy

44:20

and start the interest they were

44:22

good to go we've done our job

44:24

well said well said and there are

44:26

a bunch of resources to check out that we've discussed

44:29

throughout this whole conversation the first being

44:31

cloud dot google dot com slash edu

44:33

and will include that among others

44:36

in the show notes to go ahead and check that out

44:38

and i just want to think laurie an errand for joining

44:40

us this was such a needed conversation

44:43

and thank you for the important work that you do thanks

44:46

thank you i love my job

44:48

we can feel it they

44:50

give so much

44:51

it

44:52

that was a really incredible conversation

44:55

in a space that i think needs a lot

44:57

more attention it's really great to see

45:00

the amount of initiatives thought they'd done

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for google cloud in higher education it

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seems like they've had great backgrounds on the space having

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worked for decades as faculty

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member and i also think

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one take away from me is i

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learned that students can feel empowered

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to work with faculty to tell

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[unk] faculty what they find valuable and curriculums

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and outside of schools and tell them

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hey there's a bunch of programs that cloud

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providers like google are doing and

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we should fully take advantage of them

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right i have to agree i think when they

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take away for me was that well maybe

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laurie works with faculty ons getting

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that pipeline from student faculty in fact

45:37

is the rent and kind of works with

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the students entering to

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them with it resources little that they need

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to the they understand

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that would be working on it and poor in it can be

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applicable for their careers and

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so with kind of the two sided battle

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in pushing the students and elevating them

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and experiences and skyn them off

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in where they need to be and i really love that

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one hundred percent yeah especially coming from years

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you're fully immersed in that

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environment right now and you can fully see the value

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so now connecting the dots

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here to your internship here

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i want to know yeah what have you been working

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on what's exciting so far yeah thanks

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for asking so i've been working

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on developing a new tutorial

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for introductory google cloud developers

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to learn more a little bit about how to write

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http functions on all

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that in the good crowd environment which is a great feature

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of google cloud is that all the features

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in all the tools that you need are basically in house

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until there's no need to

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there's anything in the too easy to get so didn't

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start running with your projects another

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thing that i am working on his axes fancy

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okay

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if i'm very sad to

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leave all of you i've had such a great time i've learned

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so much have been involved in so much and

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so i'm really excited to see what you guys pull forward

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moving from here but i'm that and i would have

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the don't you guys what about you what's going on

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the offers of i just wanna say that even absolutely

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crush

46:55

it and you've been a jack-of-all-trades on our team

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and really dive head over heels into

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doing all the things that we've learned at you so

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congratulations on that and we have to see that care

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one cool thing that i'm working on is

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actually a project with you that you've jumped in on which

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is the alpha fold video and

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the recently just came out with a new blog post

47:14

talking about two different a vertex

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the air pipelines solutions for a batch influencing

47:19

for alpha fold which is a machine

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learning deep learning model that deep

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mine came out with to predict

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the protein folding structures and

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now they've released i think over two hundred million

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have predicted proteins and so now you

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can deploy their model on google

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cloud and that access to these great

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pre-built solutions that give you a great starting

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point and guide to run them

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in large scale environments for really

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much shorter elapsed influencing

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times so great job kelsey

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on helping out with all of that and for everyone else

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to stay tuned for the video which will hopefully come out

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in september

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and with that i want to say they get everyone

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listening and we will see you all

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next week

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you guys