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So Matt, you know how we both like dad

0:02

jokes and we tell them a lot and everything?

0:05

Right. I learned that the worst dad jokes

0:07

are the ones that are written down on

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paper. They're terrible. That

0:17

one actually took me a minute. Good

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evening everybody and welcome to the

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graveyard. Thank you for joining us

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tonight. My name is Adam

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and my name's Matt. Now

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Oh, right. Everybody

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you doing tonight, brother? Man,

1:01

I am. I am doing better than I thought

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I would be. Well, good. I had a

1:06

rough day, but this is,

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this has been good. This was a good way to

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Recording graveyard tales and

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It's a lot better now that get into

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3:28

he didn't use it for what it was for. He actually

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blew it up and then stuck it over his head. That's

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I mean, and they go from everything from,

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to us, you know,

4:03

just quizzing one another to see,

4:05

you know, which one can figure out what, what

4:07

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4:10

we did news in the weird for a while.

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We got to do another one of those. We,

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so keep it up. So

5:29

Matt, that's all I've got. Why

5:31

don't you tell us what are we talking

5:33

about tonight, brother? Okay.

5:37

So, uh, there's a, there's a famous, there's

5:39

a famous line from a song says,

5:42

I met a gin soaked bar

5:45

room queen in Memphis. She

5:47

tried to take me upstairs for a

5:49

ride. You know that song? I

5:53

have heard that line. I can't

5:55

tell you what song it's out of. That,

5:57

That is the opening line. Honky

6:00

Tonk Women: By. The

6:02

Rolling Stone. Ah okay. And.

6:05

It was supposedly written

6:07

about tonight's haunted location.

6:11

Day One: Of the most famous

6:13

dive bars in America is also

6:15

considered. One. Of America's most

6:17

Haunted. So. Tonight Adam

6:19

and I. Are. Going to

6:21

dive into the haunted dive bar.

6:24

Ernestine and Hazels in Memphis,

6:26

Tennessee? Oh yeah, mine. Are

6:28

you? If you haven't heard of his

6:31

place, you are missing out. Yeah.

6:33

And. This. Is this is

6:35

one of the few places. That.

6:39

Adam and I discussed that I

6:41

have actually been to yeah multiple

6:43

times and school. I.

6:46

Will I lived in Memphis because I went

6:48

to college in Memphis. And I'm

6:50

sorry Ernestine And Hazel? Yes, Messina

6:53

Hazel was always a cool

6:56

place. You.

6:58

Know to to go and hang out

7:00

on a Saturday night. Ya if he

7:02

wanted to hear some you know, live

7:04

music, you know? Just you

7:07

know, have a drink, get a fantastic.

7:09

Birch. Oh yeah, I hear their

7:12

burgers are amazing a just you know and

7:14

and where it's located. It is.

7:16

It is Memphis through and through. Yeah,

7:18

I mean if if they had if

7:20

they served Bbq there it it would

7:22

be It would be one hundred percent

7:24

Memphis if he had a wrap it

7:27

up a six. And yeah this this

7:29

is Memphis right here. It is one

7:31

of the most memphis he things that

7:33

Memphis has ever imposed. Near

7:35

as that, Sophie Rush. So.

7:38

If you're look to check them out. There

7:42

at Five Thirty one South Main Street

7:44

in Memphis. And. Over there near

7:46

Beale Street and stuff like that. So.

7:49

He. Go down there and take them out, but why

7:51

take and stuff out? Go check our sources down the

7:53

bottom of the show notes you can find where we

7:55

found all this information you can keep going. because

7:58

like man i have said before Even

8:00

though matt has been to this place there

8:02

are a lot of places that we can't

8:04

get to so we have to rely on

8:06

the people that have been there that have

8:08

had the experiences have. Done

8:12

the boots on the ground history of

8:14

the place and all that is

8:16

in our sources down the bottom of the show notes and

8:18

you can continue the research there if you would like. Now

8:24

like matt was saying earnest in hazel is

8:26

a dive bar that's located in downtown memphis

8:28

and it's been there for years. They

8:32

they're open for lunch but most

8:34

of their patronage shows up late

8:36

at night for that classic

8:38

dive bar experience. And

8:43

i'm not a big bar guy like

8:45

i did for a while in my

8:47

twenties and stuff but yeah i'm

8:49

not a bar guy because of how

8:52

crazy they get. But

8:54

dive bars like earnest in

8:56

hazel is a different story

8:58

for me it's like it's

9:01

a small like personal place.

9:04

There's not you can't cram that many people

9:06

in there it's not going to get as

9:08

wild you'll still have some wild dive bar

9:11

stuff happen but it's not almost

9:14

but holes of people. Yeah

9:16

yeah yeah and you

9:18

can get food there good food and

9:21

so it's got a

9:23

real neat atmosphere from everything that

9:25

i've heard so. Yeah

9:28

i mean it's it's casual

9:30

they have they've kept the building as

9:35

accurate to the time as they

9:37

possibly can and it still be

9:39

safe. Right and you'll you'll

9:42

see reviews on it or it's

9:44

like this place look dirty you

9:46

know there were holes in the wall

9:48

yeah that's right there are because

9:50

that hole has probably been there for 60

9:52

years. Yeah okay that

9:55

hole has a story. Exactly

9:57

And if you ask enough people.

10:00

You'll probably find that story app,

10:02

right, but that's that is part

10:04

of the allure. Of.

10:06

You. Know it's not all brand new and

10:09

shiny. It's.

10:11

It, you know it's just they are and it's

10:13

a cool place to hang out and you you

10:15

sit around you meet some very interesting people in

10:17

there. You.

10:19

Know the staff is is fantastic. And

10:22

you're at as a as a college bar.

10:26

It's not really what you would. You.

10:28

Would consider a college board. But.

10:30

It was. It. Was a really

10:33

cool place to visit. You

10:36

know when you were to saying and out looking for like.

10:38

A or whatever you do tonight

10:40

i was ill we go out

10:42

mess around as i was gonna

10:44

nursing hazels but ten thirty. You.

10:47

Know it'll it'll be picking up. With me

10:49

now so. We'd We'd. Truck down

10:51

there. So. It was lot of

10:53

fun! And. It

10:55

reminds me the the hole in the

10:57

wall thing. Literal. Holes

10:59

in the wall thing reminds me. Being.

11:03

That it's Memphis and it's music

11:05

related and I'll get into how.

11:08

How deeply rooted in

11:10

Memphis music culture it

11:12

is. But. Being. Than

11:14

a musical. Eighty Eight reminds me of.

11:17

I. Many years ago. Maybe.

11:19

Twenty some years ago, I heard somebody say

11:22

this. And. I adopted it.

11:25

To. My. Life. I

11:27

was weren't early on work in a in.

11:30

The Guitar Business. And

11:32

I had a musician come in. And I

11:34

was talking to. Him and. He

11:37

had scratches and dings on his guitar than

11:39

he was shown. mean somebody said hey, you

11:41

won't wanna. Take his

11:43

over here and buff out of scratches. Niggers

11:45

hail, know. And the guy was

11:47

like what he goes. Every one of

11:49

the scratches, Every one of these dance is

11:52

a story. I. See, this didn't

11:54

and I remember I was on stage

11:56

at this. In in

11:58

this city. play this

12:00

venue and it fell off the

12:02

amp and got this dent and

12:05

I remember it every time I see that

12:07

so to me now every one

12:09

of my guitars it has a dent or

12:11

a scuff or whatever it has a story

12:13

to it probably not as cool as this

12:16

musicians is but that's what Ernestine and Hazel's

12:18

reminds me of every you

12:20

know hole in the wall every dent

12:23

in the bar has a story

12:26

from its long

12:28

career as a dive

12:30

bar in Memphis it's a

12:32

popular Memphis watering hole like

12:35

Matt was saying and everyone says it has

12:37

great burgers so

12:39

downstairs you can get

12:41

a cold beer and what they called their

12:44

soul burger and their

12:46

soul burger apparently is covered in

12:48

mustard and onions and

12:50

that sounds great to me yeah

12:53

I'm gonna have to go there not to ghost hunt

12:55

but just to get one of their soul burger it's

12:58

worth it get their soul burger and a

13:00

cold beer maybe maybe the next time I'm

13:03

passing through Memphis I'll stop but

13:06

you can also downstairs listen to

13:08

Memphis soul and funk music on

13:11

their jukebox that they have and

13:14

they boast that they have the greatest

13:16

jukebox in the country now

13:19

I don't know how you rate

13:21

juke boxes but

13:23

apparently theirs is the best

13:27

yeah we're good for good reason that we're gonna

13:29

get into later all right yep and

13:32

I think I know where you're going but I've

13:35

heard snippets of the music that they have

13:37

in their jukebox one of them

13:40

is Johnny Cash's long black veil if

13:43

you've got Johnny Cash on a jukebox I

13:46

will agree you probably have one of the greatest ones

13:48

in the country now

13:52

you can take a tour of upstairs

13:55

and then find their small upstairs bar

13:58

you Know they don't have much going. On upstairs right

14:01

now. But. They do have a

14:03

small upstairs bar and it's called Nate Famous

14:05

Bar. And. I've got

14:07

an inhouse piano player. That. Will

14:09

sit there in a bar and play. While.

14:12

You. Know you're having a drink and it's

14:14

It's a small bar. It is

14:17

one of those things where you'd you're not

14:19

gonna get. A ton

14:21

of mixed drinks and stuff Nate will

14:23

give you. You know you want a

14:25

gin and tonic? You on a whiskey and Coke? You

14:27

want whiskey on the rocks. You're.

14:29

Going to get that? You're gonna get a beer,

14:31

but you're not gonna get some. Pain.

14:33

You Kolata twisted this

14:35

way within. Up until or

14:38

whatever. Like, I don't know what they call but.

14:40

It's a cool little small bar with

14:42

in a bar which is neat to

14:44

me. Yeah. You if you

14:47

heard about a new cocktail that was invented in

14:49

some bar in. San. Francisco.

14:52

Mates. Not going to make a fortnight

14:54

don't know I said and a say

14:57

they don't wanna know it as soon

14:59

as he made his. Been there at

15:01

work in this this bar since the

15:03

mid nineties. And. Met.

15:05

Our talking about this before we started

15:08

started up the mike's. But.

15:10

Nate I heard an interview with him and

15:12

he was saying that. One. Night

15:14

in the bar and this alludes to some

15:16

stuff Matt gonna talk about but he's in

15:19

the bar one night in one of his

15:21

customers up there and in all of a

15:23

sudden as customer just start hollering. Just.

15:26

For no reason to holler and. And. He

15:28

runs and jumps. Head.

15:31

First out of the upstairs window. As.

15:34

Nate said he was our our holler and

15:36

to cause I just knew he was dead.

15:39

And. He was. He jumped head first

15:41

down the street below and killed himself

15:44

by jumping out of mates barn window.

15:47

They on know it's crazy man it's

15:49

crazy in whore and horrible to have

15:52

to have witnessed. Yeah. Yeah

15:54

yeah, so. i can

15:57

imagine what that did donate or any

15:59

the other patron there at the

16:01

bar at the time. But anyway

16:04

upstairs at one point had

16:06

some hairstylist up there so it's kind of

16:09

like a salon but then later on it

16:11

became a brothel so

16:14

it has some history to that

16:16

upstairs. Mm-hmm. And I'm sure

16:18

we'll get into that more but since

16:20

they opened they've been featured

16:22

in nine movies written

16:25

about him Playboy, Esquire and other

16:27

magazines and many many

16:29

many celebrities have visited Ernestine and

16:32

Hazel's to take in the atmosphere.

16:35

Yeah yeah it's a long list. Mm-hmm

16:37

and I got I only have a

16:39

little bit later I have a short

16:42

snippet of the list of celebrities that have

16:44

been there but it's a long

16:46

list of people that have stopped in. Now

16:49

the building that would eventually become Ernestine

16:51

and Hazel's started out life

16:53

as a pharmacy in the 1930s. Now technically

16:58

shortly before that it had a short stint as

17:00

a church but there's

17:02

not much history on that at all so

17:05

it was like a church for some number

17:07

of months and then it became

17:09

a pharmacy and it was a

17:11

typical pharmacy and ran as

17:14

such until the owner Abe Plow

17:17

created a product that would get him rich. Now

17:20

he started out by inventing a product that

17:23

could quote straighten the hair out. While

17:26

he was doing this there was a

17:28

functioning hair salon upstairs being run by

17:30

two of his employees. Well

17:32

Abe's product took off and became super

17:34

popular from New York New York to

17:36

New Orleans. I almost said New York

17:38

to New York but

17:41

you know what I mean? New York. It

17:45

allowed people this product allowed people

17:47

to do their hair in those

17:49

like real slicked back styles

17:52

that we know from the time period and

17:55

my grandfather used

17:57

to use some product similar to this and

18:00

He called it monkey grease. And

18:03

when I was a kid, I can

18:05

remember being five, six, 10 years old,

18:08

and he would do my hair with this monkey grease.

18:11

And later on, you know,

18:14

maybe five years ago, I finally found

18:16

a product that is very

18:18

similar to that. And

18:20

I can do my hair because you know,

18:22

I, the way I do my hair is

18:24

very almost pompadour, but not the

18:26

way my hair lays naturally. So I had

18:28

to find a product that is similar to

18:31

what this Abe Plow made that

18:33

allows the hair to be slicked and

18:35

styled in a certain manner.

18:37

And that's what started getting his Abe Plow

18:39

famous. Well later,

18:42

he became famous for a product that

18:44

we still use today. I'm sure

18:46

you've used it. And actually we

18:48

keep a bottle of it in

18:51

all our vehicles because of

18:53

Ashley's fair skin. Copper

18:56

tone. Yeah. He

18:58

first started out with copper tone, suntan

19:00

lotion, and then it later became copper

19:02

tone sunscreen. So

19:05

the guy that originally owned the

19:07

building that is now

19:09

artist seen in Hazel's created copper tone

19:12

sunscreen. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard

19:14

to believe that that started in Memphis. You expect

19:16

that to start like on the

19:18

coast somewhere. Right. Right. But I

19:20

did you, did you find anything

19:22

where he had, uh, he had

19:24

also created, uh,

19:26

St. Joseph's baby aspirin.

19:31

Got that coming up. Yeah. Jumped

19:33

the gun on him. Yeah. He, uh, he,

19:35

he actually did a lot. Um, Abe

19:38

Plow, uh, he received his

19:40

only other formal education at St.

19:42

Paul street grammar school, uh,

19:45

where he graduated and after school and on

19:47

weekends, he worked at the George V. Francis

19:49

drug store without pay because

19:52

he wanted to learn the drug business. What

19:55

he determined that that was going to be his

19:57

future. So Moses Plow lent

19:59

his. Sauna Hundred and twenty five dollars

20:01

to start his own business. The.

20:04

Plow Chemical Company in nineteen? Oh

20:06

wait. Don't. You wasted only cost one

20:08

hundred twenty five dollars to start a business and

20:10

know kid. We. Started a business.

20:12

I was really a ton of money.

20:14

Yep, that's true. We. Start a business. it

20:16

when a lot more than that to start. But. As

20:19

an aide sixteen a plow was owner,

20:21

manager and the only employee of the

20:24

new business located in one small room.

20:27

above his father store. A

20:29

using this pans for mixing the

20:31

chemicals. His first formula was for

20:33

plows antiseptic, healing oil. A.

20:35

Quote: Sure Cure. For.

20:37

Any ill of man or beast. And

20:40

on days when he was not modeling as

20:42

healing oil plow set. Out and

20:44

his father's horse drawn buggy to sell

20:47

his product, drugstores and country merchants. Or.

20:49

Success came almost immediately. For.

20:52

This new enterprise. So.

20:54

Within two years, it doubled in size. And

20:57

entered the patent drug business and branched

20:59

out into Cause Metics. Adding

21:01

aspirin to his line of products.

21:04

And nineteen Twenty. Plow. Bought.

21:06

The. St. Joseph Company. A

21:09

step he called his quote first on the

21:11

road. To big time. So.

21:14

Yeah. He. He added.

21:17

Aspirin, Into his stuff. And

21:20

decided that this St. Joseph company was

21:22

gonna start make and St. Joseph Baby

21:24

Aspirin. And I.

21:27

Am I wrong in thinking that was

21:29

the first baby aspirin? I do believe

21:31

you're right. Okay, I'm I'm

21:33

I'm pretty sure. Any

21:35

I was. It's funny you meet with my

21:37

baby aspirin any but it's just because they.

21:41

They. Changed the name, That.

21:43

Low dose. Yeah, it's low dose of

21:45

game and posts. we don't really give

21:47

aspirin the kids anymore. That's

21:49

why they're weak, Matt, so I know. I

21:53

don't know and if I we

21:55

did for as really, really long time

21:57

ago. I. Can remember taken it

21:59

as a. kid, you know,

22:01

the little chewy little table. I still call

22:03

it baby aspirin. Most people do. Yeah. You

22:05

know, I mean, especially the folks that I

22:07

talk to, you know, most of my patients

22:09

will refer to it as a

22:12

baby aspirin or, you know,

22:14

you'll hear an 81 milligram aspirin, something

22:16

like that. That's what it is. And,

22:19

you know, again, it is, it's

22:22

really, really cool that all

22:24

of those products started right

22:26

out of Memphis. Mm hmm.

22:29

Mm hmm. Now, despite the worldwide

22:31

depression in 1929, Plough actually raised

22:34

his employees' salaries and added 100

22:36

others to his drugstore and factory

22:38

labor forces. So Plough

22:41

incorporated and moved in 1951 to 3022 Jackson Avenue,

22:43

which was a $2 million plant

22:49

encompassing 250,000 square feet on six acres of land. Well,

22:55

the business reported net sales of $254.5 million by 1954,

22:57

a figure that doubled by

23:03

1962. Well,

23:05

it merged in 1971 with

23:08

Sharing Corporation, primarily a manufacturing

23:11

manufacturer of prescription pharmaceuticals.

23:14

Well, Plough was the chairman of both

23:16

Plough Incorporated and Sharing Plough.

23:21

So all of this started in

23:23

downtown Memphis. Yeah. Right

23:26

there in the building that was

23:28

to later become Ernestine and Hazel's. Now

23:30

you ask, Adam, why

23:33

did you tell me about Abe Plough and his

23:35

business? Well, it's

23:38

to set up so that you understand how

23:40

much this guy was doing, because

23:43

Abe from all

23:46

this became overwhelmed with

23:48

his newfound success. So he

23:50

wanted to move on from his

23:53

pharmacy and beauty salon. So

23:55

What did he do? He Just gave

23:57

the building to the two employees who

23:59

were... Also cousins. Who.

24:01

Had been running the salon for

24:03

several years. Ernestine and

24:06

Hazel. So.

24:08

They got the building given to them.

24:11

Because. Abe. You know everything

24:13

is kind of exploded. They had been

24:15

loyal. Employees. Of he

24:17

is from so long work in a

24:19

salon upstairs and he said you know

24:21

what here you take it. Make.

24:24

It yours. And. So

24:26

they did, But. Ernestine

24:29

and Hazel closed their salon.

24:32

That. Was upstairs. And they

24:35

turn the upstairs into a brothel.

24:37

And turn the building the lower part of

24:40

the building into a cafe. Well.

24:43

Meanwhile, Ernestine husband who is

24:45

a street promoter name Sunbeam.

24:49

He opened a nearby music joint

24:51

com club paradise. Now

24:54

wouldn't you like to have a name Sunbeam?

24:56

That's what I'll going to say. I love

24:58

that. I love that day. Been. I.

25:01

I never have had a cool name

25:04

like that like nickname, not a. You

25:07

know it exists and I'm not cool

25:09

enough for name like sunbeam. But. Now.

25:13

This club paradise. You.

25:16

Know back then. The

25:19

the music venues and stuff. we're

25:21

still segregated. So.

25:23

A lot of African American

25:25

performers couldn't perform. At

25:28

the same places that a lot of why

25:30

performers were. So. Club Paradise became

25:32

the place. Where. Are these

25:35

amazing? African American musicians can play.

25:37

So. They hosted acts like Bb

25:40

King, Tina. Turner. Aretha

25:42

Franklin, Motown, Raid

25:44

Charles Bo Diddley, Sam Cooke to

25:46

marry and Jackie Wilson. Now.

25:50

Throughout. The next twenty years these

25:53

musicians. Would. Walk from Club

25:55

Paradise over to Ernestine and Hazels

25:57

every night. So. That they could get

25:59

food. They could tell

26:02

stories about their time playing in

26:04

other clubs and they could

26:06

get a little action with the women upstairs.

26:10

So this

26:13

is one of the reasons why

26:15

Ernestine and Hazel's is so

26:18

ingrained into Memphis music

26:21

scene. Because all of

26:23

these amazing, can you imagine you're

26:26

sitting in Ernestine and Hazel's and B.B. King

26:28

walked in? I

26:31

mean, I would probably crap myself if

26:33

I was sitting anywhere, especially now. But

26:36

back then, now that would be a

26:38

little weird if B.B. King walked in.

26:41

Or if you crapped yourself. Or

26:44

if I crapped myself. Either one of them. Back

26:48

when he was playing and alive

26:52

and all that, if you

26:54

were sitting somewhere and B.B. King walked in and

26:56

just started talking to you and telling you stories.

26:59

I mean, that would be amazing. But

27:03

it became the place where these blues,

27:08

jazz, R&B,

27:11

soul musicians, funk musicians

27:13

could go unwind

27:17

from the gig and just

27:19

have fun. So they

27:21

stopped in all the time. Well,

27:25

the good times like this, they

27:27

went on until the 70s when

27:29

Club Paradise got boarded up along

27:32

with the rest of downtown Memphis. So

27:36

I don't know if you remember this, Matt. You were

27:38

not born

27:40

or just had been born

27:43

when this happened. Yeah, I was

27:45

born in 74. Yeah,

27:49

so what

27:53

happened to Memphis in the 70s? Well, it's

27:56

a decrease in population of 27%. Or

28:00

put another way, a one hundred

28:02

and seventy thousand people moved out

28:04

of Memphis of the Nineteen seventies

28:06

as they were incentivized by the

28:08

quote sprawl that was labeled by

28:10

the media. Political. And business

28:13

leadership as growth. So.

28:15

They were telling people. Were. Buying

28:18

this land outside of Memphis, you need

28:20

to move outside of Memphis, You know?

28:22

So. It

28:24

it never really was growth. It.

28:27

Was a massive historic out

28:29

migration that decrease Memphis is

28:31

density. With. Hollowed out the core

28:33

neighborhoods and triggered the decline of the middle

28:35

class in those areas. And it drove

28:38

up the cost of the city's public services. The.

28:40

Peabody Hotel was born in Up. Beale.

28:43

Street was in shambles and the Chamber

28:45

of Commerce actually flirted with bankruptcy. On.

28:49

Top of this. That.

28:52

Was right when Martin Luther King. Was.

28:54

Assassinated there. And.

28:58

You. Add this. You

29:01

know, move out of the city. Along

29:03

with Martin Luther King's assassination and

29:05

people moving out of Memphis because

29:07

of that. And Memphis

29:10

took a deep decline.

29:12

In the seventies. With. Music.

29:16

Bars, everything, they're just kind

29:18

of went downhill. Yeah.

29:20

And. And realize that. When.

29:23

I moved to Memphis

29:25

and Ninety Ninety Five!

29:28

So. This. Is

29:30

this is just twenty

29:32

years? After that has

29:34

happened. right? Okay, You

29:37

don't recover from something like

29:39

this. In twenty years might

29:41

not so not fully know. So

29:43

when when I moved down there.

29:46

The. Evidence was still around.

29:49

Mean things, word things were

29:51

better for sure. I'm.

29:53

You. Know the Peabody was opened in

29:55

had been. Ah, You

29:58

know Bill Street was hop. I'm

30:00

that that was all because of

30:02

the read Gross. That. It occurred

30:05

in the eighties right arm to

30:07

try to bring more people back

30:09

to downtown Memphis. But.

30:11

The evidence was still there's a rino.

30:15

Restaurants. Like the rendezvous. You.

30:18

Know you you would. you would. You.

30:20

Would parts. And. Then you

30:22

would you would crawl through a hole

30:24

in a chain link fence to get

30:26

to the alley that lead you down

30:29

to the restaurants. And then there was

30:31

nothing else around it. You know it

30:33

was. It was old buildings, closed, abandoned,

30:35

and then Bam Here's a restaurant. Near.

30:38

Mom. It'll that was

30:40

so common. Someplace

30:42

be an open for business and

30:44

have and or five. Empty

30:46

buildings next to a. You,

30:48

your. You just saw it. But. While.

30:51

I live there. You. Saw

30:54

the of. You saw

30:56

the the growth actually occur in

30:58

the downtown area. You.

31:00

Know when when I was there they

31:03

they opened Elvis Presley's on Bill street

31:05

while I'm there are we actually went

31:07

to the grand opening of that where

31:09

they had the red carpet insurance and

31:12

of nice summary and Priscilla you know

31:14

showed up and in new and will

31:16

or won't be in on the red

31:18

carpet all these other you know actors

31:21

and other celebrities and had some for

31:23

that. They.

31:25

Had they had built this. Giant.

31:28

Movie theater around town, you know, Really

31:30

really nice was that was back when

31:32

the. He always

31:34

thirty seven theaters you know,

31:36

mechanism multiplex enough or that

31:38

those were getting more popular.

31:42

So he was getting a little bit better.

31:44

but is there for a long time because

31:46

of all those abandoned buildings. it was just

31:48

not safe to go walking around. By.

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as directed. You.

34:06

Have mean, there's you're, You're essentially

34:08

alone. There's no where you could

34:10

run into. And

34:12

yelled there is that just tunnel. Linda's.

34:15

Itself. Linda.

34:18

Is Linda to work? With. Pure.

34:20

Maybe. He like

34:22

it though. There are a lot of swarthy characters

34:24

down there. Are

34:27

so you're You're just as as

34:29

you were, just as likely. To

34:32

get your car broken into. You.

34:34

Know as you are to to go

34:37

down there and just enjoy a fun

34:39

night out. Know you

34:41

get there were seven by from Bristol

34:43

Street. Oh crap my windows bust know

34:45

nice. I'm it. You know it was

34:47

pretty common thing but yeah that was

34:50

all before. The red

34:52

birds move down there and had a

34:54

big nice baseball stadium down town before

34:56

the grizzlies move there and they built

34:58

Fedex or I'm. I'm.

35:00

Your none of that was there when I was there.

35:02

It was ton of. The. You heard

35:05

the whispers. But it

35:07

hadn't gotten there yet. so ramp you know if

35:09

it's kind of us. Was kind of a weird

35:11

time when I lived down there. You

35:13

are going to mind and. So

35:16

advanced born from the seventies when everything

35:18

goes down to Nineteen Ninety Two. Now

35:21

been to them and Delmar George.

35:24

Bought. The. Ernestine and

35:26

hailed property a couple years later.

35:29

By. Decided to bring on Russell.

35:31

George no relation to Delmar. George.

35:34

Who was dancing and singing his way

35:36

around the area. Now. George

35:39

owned. Another nearby bar at

35:41

the time and sit on New Georges.

35:44

I. Laid back style was gonna

35:46

be what was needed for honesty

35:48

and hazels. Or. Harnessing

35:50

Hazels represents the history of

35:52

Memphis. You. Know the sole

35:54

jazz and blues that Memphis is known

35:56

for. His embodied in

35:58

our listing them. Hazels and

36:01

like I said, legends like BB King, Tina

36:03

Turner and Aretha Franklin used

36:05

to come in there for relaxation

36:07

drinks and good company. It

36:10

is the epitome of

36:13

Memphis downtown spot and

36:16

it's been around for decades

36:19

and survived all

36:21

of this crap that happened in the

36:23

seventies, even though it's

36:25

all hard times and all that it

36:27

survived. Yeah. And

36:30

because of all the unique history that,

36:33

um, that occurred, not

36:36

only around that

36:38

area of Memphis, but

36:40

actually inside the building

36:42

that housed Ernestine and Hazels, it

36:45

has, it has led

36:47

to some pretty interesting paranormal

36:50

activity. So

36:52

much so that Ernestine and Hazels

36:54

is often called the most haunted

36:56

bar in America, which,

36:58

you know, that is quite a moniker

37:01

seeing is how we've talked about some

37:03

seriously haunted bars over the years. No

37:05

joke. When you think about like Bobby

37:08

Mackey's Big Nose Kate Saloon. I mean,

37:10

these are some places that, um,

37:13

yeah, I mean, you know, they really have

37:15

a lot of activity and for, for Ernestine

37:17

and Hazels to get that, you know,

37:20

title, it's pretty strong.

37:23

Now, Karen Brownlee has

37:26

been a bartender at Ernestine and Hazels since 2001.

37:31

Now in that time, she's been

37:33

interviewed by multiple sources in regards

37:35

to the paranormal activity that's reported

37:37

there at the bar. So

37:40

Karen says that she

37:43

feels that the spirits there protect

37:45

her and watch over the

37:47

place, even though

37:49

she says she's not necessarily scared. She

37:53

does say she doesn't enjoy talking about

37:55

the spirits while she's at work because

37:58

she feels that they're listening. in

38:00

and she doesn't want to be

38:02

disrespectful. Sure. She

38:05

says that on one occasion, a couple was

38:07

at the bar, making fun of

38:09

ghosts and talking bad about Ernestine and

38:11

Hazel. And suddenly

38:13

the lights began to get brighter and

38:16

then dimmer and then brighter

38:19

again and then dimmer until finally

38:22

the bar was fully lit like

38:25

daylight. Hmm. Karen

38:28

said the couple started to freak out and

38:30

abruptly left. That's

38:32

what happened. Yeah. You, you,

38:34

you talk crap about the, uh, about

38:36

the ghosts and the, and the former

38:39

owners, but yeah, they're gonna,

38:42

they're gonna let you know, Hey, knock it

38:44

off. Yeah. We

38:46

don't appreciate this. Now,

38:48

Karen says that weird stuff happens here

38:50

all the time. She

38:53

says that, uh, she's been in the bar

38:55

by herself and heard the piano playing

38:58

upstairs, she

39:00

says it sounds like people are walking

39:02

around and you can even hear people

39:05

talking all

39:08

of the rooms from the brothel are

39:10

still upstairs. Yep. And

39:13

paranormal investigators are always up there.

39:16

They're, they're spending the night there.

39:18

They're doing investigations. And she

39:21

also says that you can't take a picture in

39:23

that bar without getting into orbit, she's like, they're

39:25

everywhere. And,

39:29

you know, I know what everybody says, Oh, you know, that place

39:31

is full of dust and orbs. Yeah. Yeah. But not in every

39:33

picture. It's not,

39:35

it's not that common. Yeah. You know,

39:38

she shouldn't be, but yeah. She

39:42

also says that she

39:44

feels like all the

39:46

spirits are female. Hmm. She

39:49

just kind of has that feeling, but

39:52

perhaps that gives some credibility

39:54

to the rumors that prostitutes

39:57

were murdered upstairs when it served.

39:59

as a brothel. Yeah.

40:01

I mean you know we're you know we're

40:03

talking about we're

40:06

talking about some rough times in American

40:08

history here okay.

40:11

You know crimes against different

40:13

people often went uninvestigated and

40:16

you know a lot of horrible

40:18

things happen to people that you

40:20

know they know they

40:22

never got the justice they deserved. Did

40:25

you find it's just a rumor but

40:28

did you find the rumor that in

40:30

one of the rooms up there

40:32

a man had chained a prostitute

40:34

to one of the radiators up

40:37

there and beat her

40:39

to death in one of the rooms? I

40:42

found that in one source. Yeah.

40:44

It was only one and yeah

40:47

I didn't include it because of that but

40:50

even still that's not

40:52

all that uncommon when

40:54

you're looking for the stories about

40:57

what happened to the prostitutes that

40:59

worked. The details are really vague

41:02

okay. You know there's there's

41:04

not case files or police reports or

41:07

anything it's just it's

41:09

just word of mouth it's been passed

41:11

on year after year after year. Well

41:13

it was a brothel and it

41:15

in those times brothels were not

41:19

I mean I'm sure it wasn't sanctioned you

41:22

know like you get some in

41:24

Vegas that are sanctioned and

41:26

and so they're kept

41:28

safe and clean so

41:31

they just didn't maybe

41:33

they didn't even report them because they didn't

41:35

want to get shut down. It's possible. Now

41:39

some regulars say that they

41:41

have experienced the apparition of

41:43

a woman standing behind them

41:46

while they're in one of the upstairs bathrooms.

41:50

Others have reported seeing the image of

41:52

a woman standing at the end of

41:54

the hallway typically with her arms crossed

41:57

and sometimes they have like the

41:59

old like like a bonnet

42:01

on like, you know, somebody

42:03

that, you know, from, you know,

42:06

probably the, the, the 30s, you know,

42:08

early 40s. Now,

42:12

some guests have reported being

42:15

touched when they're upstairs,

42:17

even pinched. You

42:20

know, so like maybe even a playful

42:22

little goose, you know, as you walk

42:24

by. Now,

42:28

Karen talks about a guy that worked at

42:30

the bar for 15 years. And

42:33

one day he walked upstairs

42:35

and then immediately ran back down

42:37

and out the door. And

42:40

Karen said something up there really,

42:43

really scared him, but he

42:45

never could fully explain what it was. That's

42:48

weird. Now, you've already talked about- I

42:51

want to know. Yeah, I'd

42:53

want to know too. Yeah. But

42:56

you've heard us keep mentioning the

42:58

upstairs. So most of the paranormal

43:00

activity occurs in those

43:02

upstairs rooms. But

43:04

the jukebox that Adam mentioned

43:06

earlier is one

43:08

of the oddities that occurs downstairs.

43:12

Now, staff and visitors have

43:14

reported the jukebox coming on

43:16

randomly, which in and

43:18

of itself is not that strange. Sure.

43:22

But if you're having a conversation

43:24

about baseball and

43:26

center field by John Fogarty suddenly

43:28

starts playing, it

43:31

may make you think that the jukebox is eavesdropping

43:33

on you. Yeah. You know?

43:36

I mean, and they say

43:38

that happens quite often. Karen

43:40

tells a story about sitting in the

43:43

bar with one other employee talking about

43:45

James Brown's death, which had

43:47

been reported earlier that day when

43:50

all of a sudden, I feel

43:52

good, starts blasting through the bar. That's

43:55

incredible. And she says another

43:57

time a paranormal investigator- Was

44:00

in there talking about exorcism and

44:02

stuff and all of a sudden

44:04

the song Sympathy for the

44:06

devil by the Rolling Stones started playing Huh?

44:10

Yeah, and Karen Karen

44:12

is also amazing getting touched by

44:15

someone or something whenever she's standing near

44:17

the jukebox Oh, wow so

44:21

it's it's almost like you've got a

44:23

spirit that hangs out by the jukebox

44:25

that Want you to know he

44:27

hears you and is playing

44:29

stuff and I mentioned that it has

44:33

Long black veil on there and

44:35

the reason that I know that is Because

44:39

the portals to hell with

44:41

Jack Osborne they were

44:43

in there talking to her about

44:46

the thing and all of

44:48

a sudden long black veil started playing and it

44:50

only played like The

44:52

first few seconds of the song but Jack

44:54

was like it's really weird because we're talking

44:56

about hauntings and that

44:59

song is mostly about death. Yeah,

45:02

and It's

45:04

weird. So they actually caught it doing

45:06

that which I thought was neat It

45:09

is it is common for it to

45:11

play just parts of songs Where

45:14

it'll just kick on play part

45:16

of a song and then shut off. Yeah,

45:19

you know Look

45:23

Even even a Halfway

45:26

functioning jukebox does better than

45:28

that Right. So right

45:30

it would play the whole thing or most of it.

45:32

Yeah, and you know for It

45:35

to cut on and off like it does

45:37

it really does seem like Something

45:40

is interacting with it. Yeah,

45:42

you know, maybe maybe it's the medium

45:44

that it's interacting with humans Yeah,

45:47

I was gonna say maybe it's the way it's It's speaking

45:51

like yeah, you know with the I feel

45:53

good part. They were talking about James Brown

45:56

Well, he's dead. Well, the guy

45:58

was like I'm dead. I feel good Yeah,

46:00

you know James Brown is fine. Yeah,

46:03

could be Now

46:05

like as I mentioned earlier orbs showing

46:07

up in pictures are quite common But

46:11

they aren't the only thing that shows

46:13

up in in people's camera rolls Many

46:16

visitors have reported seeing faces in the

46:18

walls when they go back and look

46:20

at their pictures. That's weird

46:22

now I I Read

46:24

this and I was like, what does this

46:27

mean? Okay So

46:29

essentially, you know you snap a picture of

46:31

the bar itself and then you see when

46:34

you look back at the photo like

46:38

Almost like the shroud of current, you know, you

46:40

see this silhouetted

46:42

face In it

46:44

and that that happens frequently in

46:47

fact It happened so

46:49

much that I found a trip

46:51

advisor review that said it happened

46:54

to them And that every time

46:56

they look at their photos, they

46:59

see more of them. Oh,

47:01

wow Yeah, and I

47:03

mean that it literally sounds

47:05

like one of those things. It's just like

47:08

You know somebody said off-handed

47:10

once and you get

47:12

stuck in an article about it. Uh-huh No,

47:16

it happens pretty frequently. Yeah,

47:19

and then that's interesting. Oh, yeah Yeah,

47:21

really interesting thing it

47:24

almost makes you feel like that

47:26

the bar the building itself Is

47:29

alive? That it

47:31

oh, yeah, it knows what's going on in

47:33

there that it and it interacts

47:35

with the people that come in true,

47:37

yeah Now I

47:40

mentioned earlier voices are common upstairs The

47:44

staff reports that it's difficult to make

47:46

out words and it often just sounds

47:48

like muffled conversations between

47:50

several people but

47:53

one cleaning person Consistently

47:55

reported hearing voices when he would go

47:57

up there to clean up He

48:00

said whenever he walked into one particular

48:02

room he would hear here he

48:05

is again. Oh That's

48:07

weird. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's this is

48:09

people thought he was crazy You

48:12

know, but he always he probably thought

48:14

he was crazy Maybe

48:17

a little bit, you know But that

48:19

would that that would just make you kind of go

48:21

I really don't want to have to go up here

48:23

and clean up Tonight, you know, I

48:26

don't want to hear this Right. Yeah Now

48:31

as I said stranger things have

48:34

happened that make the bar itself

48:36

seem like it's a living breathing

48:38

entity Now there

48:41

is a story about a money

48:43

bag like I guess

48:45

like a zippered bank bag, you know Mm-hmm.

48:47

Yeah, I said a lock on the end

48:49

anyway One of those

48:51

went missing. Okay, hmm that had a

48:53

few hundred dollars in it I

48:57

Tearin says that one day the

48:59

bar was dead and that

49:01

she and one of the other one of

49:03

her other co-workers were shooting pool Now

49:07

she took a shot and the cue ball

49:09

managed to bounce off the table and

49:12

it rolled underneath one of the sofas That's

49:14

a horrible shot. Yeah, it's terrible shot. I've

49:17

seen it a hundred times though. It's all I've

49:20

been hit by one So

49:23

they they went over there to get the cue

49:25

ball back and they they moved the sofa and

49:28

They found a money bag

49:30

covered in cobwebs That's

49:33

weird. It it

49:35

obviously been there a really long time

49:38

So she called the manager

49:40

and he said he didn't

49:43

know anything about it The

49:45

very next week, I

49:48

mean that that the sad the next

49:50

Saturday The

49:52

same thing happened with the cue ball

49:54

coming off of the table and rolling

49:56

under the same sofa Again,

49:59

they went went over to move the sofa to

50:01

get the ball, but this

50:03

time another money bag

50:06

was underneath. That's weird. They'd

50:09

already taken one. Now

50:12

there was another one, but that one they found

50:15

was the one that had been

50:17

missing for at least four or

50:19

five years. Oh, wow.

50:21

So the crazy thing

50:23

is that they find an

50:25

old money bag in there. It

50:28

doesn't have the right amount of money. It's

50:30

covered in cobwebs. It's obviously been there a

50:32

really long time, but

50:35

it's not the one that was lost. And

50:37

a week later, the one that had been

50:40

lost appears in the same spot. That's

50:43

crazy. Yeah. I

50:46

mean, you know, Karen says, you know, you, you'll hear these

50:48

stories. You won't believe them, but they're,

50:50

but they're true. They happened. Yeah.

50:53

It's like gremlins or something.

50:56

I know. Yeah. There's

50:59

a trick, a trickster in there somewhere.

51:03

Now Adam brought up the murders and we talked

51:05

about that a little bit. And as I said,

51:08

the history is vague, but

51:11

it is said that 13 people

51:14

allegedly met their demise inside

51:16

Ernestine and Hazel. Now

51:19

Russell George, who

51:21

was the original manager and promoter that

51:23

was hired by Bud Chittom,

51:29

he was there when the, with the current iteration

51:31

of the bar, when it opened in 1993, he

51:33

committed suicide in one

51:35

of the upstairs rooms. Okay.

51:38

So that's, that's one that they know

51:40

for sure. Yeah. In

51:42

July of 2019, bones

51:45

were found inside one of the

51:47

walls while the bar was undergoing

51:49

some renovations. Phew. Now

51:53

the news reports state

51:55

that the bones were sent out for

51:57

examination, but I could not

51:59

find. Any reports of

52:01

what those examinations discovered. So

52:04

whether they were human bones, whether they

52:06

were animal bones, they found a few

52:09

other things in there with them like I think they

52:11

found like a like a like

52:13

a five cent peanut bag. I

52:15

think there was a bottle of whiskey in there. It

52:18

was empty, but you

52:20

know things like that in these bones. So

52:24

it either makes me think okay, so if

52:26

they were human bones, you think that would come

52:28

out because that would prompt. I mean

52:31

they were doing renovations, so the contractor is

52:33

who found them. So

52:36

immediately, you know, he's got to stop

52:38

everything he's doing. He's got to report

52:40

it to the police, and there's got

52:42

to be some investigation before he can

52:44

continue his work because

52:47

they want to make sure, you know, this isn't a

52:49

body of a person. So

52:51

it's not a body of a murdered

52:54

individual, but there was no other

52:56

story. And I

52:58

mean, I got this story from the actual news

53:01

station, you know, so

53:03

this was, you know, just about

53:05

five years ago. So

53:09

it's not like it's an old story

53:11

and the stuff had gotten lost. I

53:13

couldn't find anything about what the bones were. I

53:18

don't know why they wouldn't say. I mean, if

53:20

the original discovery made the news,

53:23

there needs to be a follow up. So at

53:25

least saying, hey, it was animal. Yeah,

53:27

that's what it tells me is that

53:29

they must have been animal bones. Right,

53:33

right. So that it wasn't

53:35

really all that newsworthy, but you

53:38

know, because I can't imagine if they found human

53:40

remains inside that that wouldn't be one of

53:43

the biggest stories, you know. But

53:47

there are stories of prostitutes being

53:49

murdered upstairs, but again, the details

53:52

are fuzzy at best. But there

53:54

is one particular story that comes from

53:56

the black room. Now, the upstairs

53:58

rooms are colored. Coated so there's a

54:01

black room red room green room, you know, they're

54:03

painted they have those color lights Well, I don't

54:05

think the black room has black lights in it,

54:07

but it might and been nasty

54:10

for a brothel Yeah,

54:22

yeah, you ever watch CSI Yeah

54:26

But there is a there is a record

54:28

player with an old record

54:31

player with a radio You

54:34

know a combo now

54:36

the record player doesn't work but

54:39

the radio still does and The

54:42

radio in the black room turns on

54:44

and off randomly and

54:46

changes volume In fact, I

54:48

read I read one one

54:51

investigator Was talking

54:53

about having been up there and When

54:56

and a ghost tour came through? Okay,

54:59

so he was he's there in normal

55:01

business hours So

55:04

a ghost tour comes through and he says

55:06

when they were in the room that was

55:08

adjacent to the black room the volume went

55:10

down hmm, and

55:12

then when they left it went back up

55:14

and He

55:17

remembered thinking hmm, that's kind

55:19

of weird But he

55:22

went back and Notice

55:25

that it happened frequently.

55:28

It wasn't just one time. So he knew he wasn't

55:30

nuts You know, this

55:32

was really happening and the like said he'll turn

55:34

on and off Does

55:36

all kinds of things? so

55:41

There there's something else that's kind of special about

55:43

the black room Now Karen

55:47

Brown Lee who we've been talking about the bartender

55:50

and one of the current managers Shares

55:53

a story where one evening She

55:56

found an anonymous note and

55:59

a bouquet of white roses left on

56:01

her bar by a customer. Okay.

56:04

The note read, and this

56:07

is a quote, this is the actual note. The

56:10

other night I had an experience in your bar

56:13

that I cannot explain. There

56:15

is a spirit there that

56:17

endured a very hard life

56:19

and a terrible experience. And

56:22

she wishes to be heard. It's

56:24

my understanding that she was stabbed in

56:27

the shoulder. I

56:29

have never encountered or felt anything like

56:31

this before. So I am unsure if

56:33

I'm misinterpreting. Please make

56:35

sure that this letter and roses make

56:38

it to the green lit room with

56:40

the painting of a woman and the

56:43

brick covered window so that she

56:45

may see them. Hmm.

56:48

I mean, I've,

56:52

look, we, we've, strange. We have done a

56:54

lot of research about a lot

56:56

of haunted places. We've not ever come

56:58

across something quite like this where, you

57:01

know, a, just a customer

57:03

has some type of spiritual

57:05

interaction that is so emotional. It

57:10

prompts him to make a gesture like

57:12

this. And

57:14

this was, I'm sorry. And this was in the green room. I think

57:16

I said this was in the black room. This was in the green

57:18

room. Okay. But

57:21

the note goes on and it says, I

57:24

want her to know that I cried uncontrollably

57:26

and felt her pain. And I'm so deeply

57:28

sorry from the bottom of my heart. Her

57:31

beautiful soul deserved better. I

57:34

write this with hopes that she may find her

57:36

peace knowing that she was

57:38

heard and felt. I hope

57:40

so deeply that she may let go of this

57:42

pain and find joy in light. I

57:46

mean, that's just, it's incredible. Yeah.

57:49

I have never heard of

57:51

something like that where you have an experience

57:53

and then the

57:56

guy comes back and leaves

57:58

flowers. For the

58:03

the spirit that he feels so bad for

58:06

i don't. What what what

58:08

it what it tells me is

58:11

that no matter what you believe you

58:13

believe in ghost you don't you think

58:15

this place is haunted or not it

58:18

doesn't really matter. Here's

58:20

a guy that is looking for and i

58:22

say guy it may not have been but

58:25

here's someone that is looking for zero

58:29

attention. Yeah

58:31

and whatever experience that they

58:34

had. Let

58:36

them to do this you

58:38

just you've got to think. That

58:42

got that person they

58:44

experience something something

58:46

heavy. To

58:49

do that something they could not

58:51

explain. So it

58:54

just it drives that nail deeper

58:56

and says this place

58:59

this place is got it's

59:01

got something it's got ghost it's

59:03

got spirits it's

59:06

an entity in and of itself. For

59:09

someone to have an experience like

59:11

that. I

59:13

mean i just i thought that story was incredible

59:15

and if you think that one is is

59:18

is fascinating. We're

59:20

gonna close with this one and i talked

59:23

about this before we thought this was really

59:25

neat story. I love it

59:27

so we wanted to share this so this is this

59:30

is from karen. And

59:32

it says in two thousand seven

59:35

my twenty four year old son got killed.

59:38

I was at work and found out that he

59:40

had gotten shot to make a

59:42

long story short. This

59:45

was how i knew that it was earnest in

59:47

at least i think it was earnest in there

59:50

was watching out for me. When

59:52

i came back to work i was

59:55

sitting at the end of the bar by myself and i

59:57

was crying. And i

59:59

said. God, please

1:00:01

give me a sign that my kid

1:00:03

is all right. And

1:00:07

she said, it used to be, when I

1:00:09

got freaked out in here, that I would

1:00:11

just start talking to Ernestine. I

1:00:14

know that sounds crazy, but sometimes you're in here

1:00:16

by yourself and it can get a little creepy.

1:00:20

I said, Ernestine, please give me

1:00:22

a sign that my kid's all right. And

1:00:25

out of nowhere, this little baby

1:00:27

bird came walking up to

1:00:29

me right over from one

1:00:31

of the booths. I

1:00:34

looked down and the little bird walked

1:00:36

over to an iron gate where the

1:00:38

door was open and it flew off. She

1:00:42

said, that was my sign that my

1:00:44

kid was okay. When

1:00:47

I started talking to Ernestine and the bird appeared

1:00:49

and flew off, that told

1:00:51

me everything was okay. She

1:00:54

said, it was so weird. And

1:00:56

just then, this little lady

1:00:58

came in that I had never seen

1:01:00

before in my life. She

1:01:03

walked in and said, hey lady,

1:01:05

are you okay? I

1:01:08

don't know where she came from, never saw

1:01:10

her again, but I started talking to

1:01:12

her a little bit about everything. And

1:01:14

you know, that lady left my bar and

1:01:17

she came back about an hour later and

1:01:20

she had bought me a sterling silver

1:01:22

necklace with a bird on it. I

1:01:25

don't know what her name was or

1:01:27

anything. She gave me that necklace and

1:01:29

a big old hug and left. I

1:01:32

never saw her again. Now,

1:01:34

is that not something right there? That

1:01:37

she came back with a necklace with a bird,

1:01:39

just like that? She says,

1:01:41

this is a true story, I'm not lying.

1:01:45

And at the time Russell George told her,

1:01:48

Karen, Ernestine is watching over you,

1:01:50

man. Yep. She

1:01:52

said, I've never been scared in here since. She's

1:01:55

like, I'll hear weird stuff, but I'll

1:01:57

blow it off. I love this place,

1:01:59

it's. like my home. I've had so

1:02:01

many good people had so much good stuff

1:02:04

happen to me here. And

1:02:06

some people get real eerie and freaked

1:02:08

out, but I don't anymore. Yeah.

1:02:11

I mean, yeah, what an incredible

1:02:13

story. Um, you

1:02:16

know, almost as if maybe so,

1:02:19

you know, maybe so maybe earnestly is looking

1:02:21

out for an earnest Dean. I think

1:02:23

it was earnest Dean was she lived till

1:02:26

like 1998. Um,

1:02:29

she lived a long time. Yeah. Um,

1:02:31

she was still alive. And I think

1:02:33

Hazel may have still been alive when

1:02:35

the, the current earnesting the Hazel's that

1:02:37

opened in 93, um, began. Um,

1:02:41

I do think they, they may have both

1:02:44

still been alive, but yeah. Um,

1:02:46

I got a little snippet to add to

1:02:49

that bird thing. Okay. There was, um, apparently

1:02:52

birds are a big thing at

1:02:54

earnesting and Hazel's as far as

1:02:57

like paranormal sense

1:03:00

that you get. Um, there

1:03:02

was a, uh, uh,

1:03:05

medium doing a blind walkthrough.

1:03:07

They knew nothing about the hauntings or whatever

1:03:10

that went on there. They went

1:03:12

upstairs and they said, Oh

1:03:14

man, I'm getting this heavy

1:03:16

feeling like just something feels

1:03:18

wrong. You know, it feels

1:03:21

bad. I'm kind of dizzy. And

1:03:23

then all of a sudden she kind of moved and

1:03:26

they said, what happened? She goes, it felt like

1:03:28

a bird flew past my

1:03:30

face and she goes, it wasn't

1:03:32

negative. It actually cleared up the energy, but

1:03:35

it was just weird that a bird

1:03:37

flew by. Hmm. Now she didn't know anything

1:03:39

about this lady's story about the bird

1:03:41

or anything. And

1:03:43

to have a bird, a bird,

1:03:46

like the feeling of a bird fly past

1:03:48

your face and it clear up that negative

1:03:50

energy. Just kind of

1:03:53

add to me adds to that

1:03:55

bird as a good sign. Yeah.

1:03:57

That it might be earnesting that's

1:03:59

keeping. You know some

1:04:01

negativity at bay in

1:04:03

this place that that is that's pretty cool

1:04:06

I mean it really really is and you

1:04:08

know birds have been Viewed

1:04:11

as omens, you know for

1:04:14

centuries. Oh, yeah, you know, so If

1:04:17

if if it's earnest in spirit or another

1:04:19

spirit that takes the form of a bird,

1:04:22

you know, it's It's got

1:04:24

to be a positive thing It's

1:04:26

got to be So,

1:04:29

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1:04:31

to earnest team in Hazel's I know

1:04:33

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1:04:36

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Prices vary including based on how you buy.

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and Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates, North Park,

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Illinois. Some people

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just know the best rate for you is

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one based on the driver who treats the

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California. Subject to terms and conditions. Rates are determined by several

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While in some states, your rate could increase with high-risk driving,

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generally, safer drivers will save with DriveWise. Allstate Fire and Casualty

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Insurance Company and affiliates, North Park, Illinois.