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On a haunted hotel that is.

4:00

He. Is very unique. Is

4:04

it's it's. We've. Talked about

4:06

similar places. Com. You.

4:08

Know these. These. Bohemian.

4:11

Ah residences the these

4:14

places they just they

4:16

They drew in artistic

4:18

people not but winner

4:20

in a grove. Or.

4:22

A surprise, yeah, but

4:25

but they they drew

4:28

in artists, musicians, writers,

4:31

Of. You know if

4:33

any kind of of of art.

4:36

A forest. Here.

4:39

It was just this. Amazing.

4:43

Conglomeration of all these people.

4:45

Ah, I'm over the years.

4:49

But. It definitely left a

4:51

mark. I'm. Because.

4:54

You know where if you if you

4:56

ever watch something like behind the music

4:58

or if you've ever. Is

5:02

if you've ever looked into the lives of

5:04

some of the the of. The. More

5:07

avant garde. Authors

5:09

of from the sixties

5:11

and seventies. You know

5:13

that their lives were

5:16

full of. Just.

5:18

While living tragedy.

5:21

Das. Drugs.

5:23

You name it, And. All

5:25

that negative energy left a mark. On.

5:28

The Chelsea Hotel. And.

5:32

It's. A It's a

5:34

fascinating place and. You.

5:37

Know their it's been empty.

5:40

For. What? Since about two

5:42

thousand and ten. So

5:44

partially empty. Yep, partially

5:46

empty. But. There's

5:49

been a lot of speculation

5:51

about. The. Of the

5:53

residual. Paranormal.

5:55

Slides that's been left behind

5:58

And what? spirits? Might.

6:00

Be still living there, right? right?

6:04

And as was any place you

6:06

know the history is vital. But

6:09

I think with this that the

6:11

history the history is fascinating without

6:13

any of the paranormal. But it

6:15

does can give you an insight

6:17

as to. Why?

6:19

This place would be so haunted

6:22

and. What? Spirits might be

6:24

hanging out there. Yeah, deserves some

6:26

famous once. Oh

6:28

yeah for sure. In. The

6:31

history will be a little bit different on

6:33

this one than one I normally do on

6:35

history. Because. If

6:38

you know. Normally. On

6:41

talk about. Who. Built it. How

6:43

it's built, The. Land. But.

6:47

On this one. Like Matt said, the people.

6:49

That. Were there? Are a

6:51

little more important to. The.

6:54

Story of the Hauntings. Then.

6:57

The land itself. So.

6:59

We're going to go through that. but. As well

7:01

as they go check the sources down the bottom of

7:03

the show notes you can find where we found all

7:05

this information. And. You can keep going

7:07

if you want to look into more of

7:10

the history. That. I don't cover

7:12

the land the. The. Building of

7:14

and all that stuff. Go there final

7:16

links and continue the research. Know.

7:20

It's located at to Twenty Two

7:22

West Twenty Third Street in the

7:24

Chelsea neighborhood of Manhattan in New

7:27

York City. And a lotta

7:29

twos and that address to to twenty third.

7:32

I know, but you know if it's a it's

7:35

got to be a heck of a easier to

7:37

figure out where in the heck you are in

7:39

New York City? Then

7:42

it is like in national. You.

7:45

Know. Because it's built on a

7:47

grid and the numbers will tell you. Oh.

7:49

Well, I'd not need to go over

7:51

for more blocks and reason. You

7:55

can't really do that. You. Know. It

7:57

in Nashville. it's take a left

7:59

on dumb. Brian my that's his

8:01

name and Brian. They go down

8:03

the. Never.

8:05

Know when a line it's always the one

8:08

I see it as. See it on dig

8:10

dogged new to bomb dumb money you

8:12

know years nurse really be know how to

8:14

pronounce the street. And

8:18

I'm still not even sure where pronounced.

8:20

I don't think your. But I.

8:22

Just went with the way all pronounced it

8:24

so I didn't sound like an idiot. Rothys.

8:28

As. A The other one that gets me

8:30

is it's not. Lebanon. In

8:33

Lebanon. Oh yeah, right

8:35

when I first moved up there I'm like oh,

8:37

Lebanon, Tennessee and everybody was like. Were.

8:40

That's Lebanon. And what? Lebanon?

8:42

One. Is a Lebanon. I

8:46

saw the Chelsea Hotel opened

8:48

and eighteen Eighty Four. And.

8:51

It was designed by Philip

8:53

Hubert as this eighty units

8:55

housing co op. It

8:57

was originally called that Selsey

8:59

Association Building. A hubert

9:01

said he wanted to be a place where

9:04

people from varied backgrounds and lifestyles. Would.

9:06

Feel safe in sharing their lives

9:08

in the spirit of collaboration. So.

9:11

Front of the reasoning. Even get even

9:14

and eighty eighty four. From.

9:17

The beginning He knew what he wanted to

9:19

be and it certainly became. right?

9:22

Now. Around nineteen hundred or so, the

9:25

building was turned into a quote

9:27

rental outfit. It. Was a

9:29

twelve story building. In

9:31

the Victorian Gothic style and it

9:33

became a residence for people from

9:35

all walks of life as as.

9:38

A. Lot of people say you see

9:40

it. Quoted eclectic

9:43

souls. Is is

9:45

how they put it and I mean

9:47

I have. I think that's a good

9:49

way of putting it. Very eclectic group

9:51

of people that. Have.

9:53

Always been founded. The Chelsea. Is

9:56

unique interests? Maybe town

9:58

of. Side of the

10:01

mainstream. Oh. Who said

10:03

that? book? Bohemian? I mean, that's.

10:06

That's their. That's what it is now. So.

10:09

Close. To. My knowledge, it's

10:11

the largest and longest lived artist

10:13

community in the history of the

10:15

world. So Cheryl Tip ins author

10:17

of Inside The Dream Palace, The

10:19

life and times of New York's

10:22

legendary Chelsea Hotel. And.

10:24

We got several quotes from her

10:26

throughout. Both parts of this.

10:29

Episode. And yeah, But.

10:32

Quote. The. Mix of types

10:34

of residents provides fodder for art,

10:36

the doddering old ladies with their

10:38

shocking stories from their past. The

10:41

lonely heiresses who come to take their lives

10:43

there. The. High fashion model

10:45

struggling to manage their professional lives.

10:47

The Delhi workers and taxi drivers

10:50

and drug dealers. All. Mingling

10:52

conversing in sharing their lives in

10:54

the lobbies and elevators in the

10:56

roof gardens and at L quixote

10:58

next door, says tip. Together

11:00

they comprise a human tapestry

11:03

mirrored in painting, songs, dances,

11:05

compositions, Sculpture. Photographs and

11:07

stories and novels that have been

11:09

created. They're. So. Even

11:12

just from her quotes. This.

11:14

Sounds like an artist. Heaven.

11:17

Yes, Absolutely. Now.

11:21

During the early nineteenth century,

11:23

apartment developments in the city

11:25

were generally associated with the

11:27

working class. But. By

11:29

the late nineteenth century, apartments were

11:32

also becoming desirable among the middle

11:34

and upper classes. Are between

11:36

Eighteen Eighty and Eighteen Eighty Five, More

11:38

than ninety apartment buildings were developed in

11:40

the city. So. When

11:43

I when I read that. And.

11:45

See if it's the same for you? Eighteen

11:48

A bead. Eighteen Eighty Five. Nine.

11:50

The. Apartment building seems

11:53

like a lot. For. That. That

11:55

time. Yeah, yeah, I agree with

11:58

that. But. That me?

12:00

because I'm. From. Texas.

12:03

And we didn't get going. As

12:06

a a state. In

12:08

a we were in the Wild West Qurna thing.

12:11

This. Pretty. Pretty. Far

12:13

in two. Of

12:15

eighteen hundred. So maybe they

12:17

they. I mean he didn't

12:19

have Ellis Island and stuff where people

12:21

emigrated to so. I

12:24

guess it makes sense, but it just seemed like

12:26

a lot for that area. Now

12:30

Hubert and his partner first developed

12:33

these buildings as housing. For.

12:35

Artist. But. They put

12:37

rental units in these buildings in order to

12:39

defray the costs. Some. Of

12:42

the buildings also provided servants as

12:44

part of the building staff. The.

12:46

Rental units and servants were also done

12:48

to entice middle class and upper class

12:50

New Yorkers to come live in these

12:53

early apartment buildings. So.

12:55

They. Had a. A

12:59

column servants. but it it's candlelight.

13:01

A Staff. And

13:04

like you and have any fancy hotel.

13:07

But it's for these apartments. so.

13:10

Almost. From the beginning. The.

13:12

Chelsea had more prospective tenants

13:14

than available apartments. So.

13:17

Quote from the beginning: The Chelsea

13:19

was a home for eccentrics an

13:21

artist were there by design. So.

13:24

The Chelsea was built in the center

13:26

of New York's theater district and the

13:29

nearby venues where Booze Theater. And

13:31

the Grand Opera house. And.

13:34

Eight. It was a good spot for

13:36

a building that was initially designed to

13:38

help how's artist that worked these venues.

13:41

So. Yeah, and they were. They were

13:44

close by the. Me: On

13:46

a good get back and forth to

13:48

the to the club they were plan

13:50

or to the theater where they ran

13:52

a show. Whatever you know so is.

13:54

It was convenient for these artists. I'm.

13:58

Super to where they work and. You.

14:00

Know. A was kinda like

14:02

gum. It. Was can like to.

14:05

It's easier to the grand ole Opry. Yeah.

14:08

You know it was. It was the

14:10

hang out. it was. You. Know

14:12

where. You. Know songs were

14:14

written. Over you know, a

14:16

beer at the bar. Ah, Yes,

14:19

same thing with the Chelsea, you

14:21

know? Stories were shared. You

14:24

know ideas were presented and

14:27

and you know modified and

14:29

yell a somebody is. Some

14:32

I say good at what am I going to do? what

14:34

I'm going to do next, How much going on in this

14:36

book? And then somebody comes in and does something. For.

14:39

Easy. Or like? that's it.

14:41

You know, because the environment

14:44

just feel that creativity, right?

14:46

right? exactly? Now

14:48

according to the real estate

14:50

record and guide, many construction

14:52

suppliers and workers moved into

14:54

the apartments rather than except

14:56

monetary compensation. So.

14:59

They'd. Toes housing over

15:01

monetary compensate compensation. Not.

15:05

The building also attracted wealthy widows,

15:07

government officials, in a variety of

15:10

other middle and upper class professionals.

15:12

But. We're not a one hundred percent

15:14

sure the names of these early guess

15:17

because Hubert refused to disclose the names

15:19

of the residents for the social registers.

15:22

Sonia. That. Was actually probably can't

15:24

a nice for the the tenants their. Target

15:26

keep everything on the down low end up.

15:29

In you don't get bothered. You

15:32

could move in. Is a wealthy widow. And.

15:34

Humor One Going to go: Spread your name

15:36

and you'd have all these suitors try node.

15:39

Come up to your room and get your money and stuff

15:41

like that. Yeah exactly. Now.

15:45

The early residents who ran in

15:47

the apartments move from other apartment

15:49

buildings in the area and there

15:52

were thirty servants quote unquote for

15:54

the building that were mostly immigrants

15:56

from Germany in Ireland. Now.

15:58

In Eighty Ninety Eight. Live

16:00

Costs Monthly magazine described The

16:03

Chelsea as one of Manhattan's

16:05

quote literary shrines. In

16:07

part because of the president, the

16:10

presence of residents such as Edward

16:12

Eggleston. And. Jane Cunningham Crawling.

16:15

The. Early residents included. A.

16:18

Painter. Rufus fared

16:20

sound as on Bomb. And

16:22

he was an illustrator. For. News

16:25

magazines in the nineteenth century. So.

16:27

He did all the. You

16:29

know if he had a comic strip or

16:31

something that was written. He was the illustrator

16:33

for a lot of different news magazines. American

16:37

poet Henry Abbey, and stage

16:39

actress Any Russell. But.

16:41

After World War two, as a

16:43

hotel declined and the room prices

16:45

fell. So. In

16:49

his later years, the Chelsea Hotel became

16:51

famous due to the people who stayed

16:53

there. You. Know it

16:55

already had. This.

17:00

Error of. Eclectic

17:04

personalities. They're there. was

17:06

ice the above? Yeah

17:08

right. At. Which is

17:10

what drew a lot of these

17:12

later. Personalities. To it.

17:15

But because of these later

17:17

personalities that Chelsea Hotel cannon.

17:20

Got. Put on the map, As

17:22

as this, this is the place to go

17:24

hang out. He became a temporary

17:26

home from different musicians that were in town.

17:29

Like. Bob Dylan, Patti Smith,

17:32

Jimi Hendrix, Bob. Marley,

17:34

Joni Mitchell, Mick Jagger, Jackson

17:37

Pollock. Dd. Ramon.

17:40

Mitch. Hedberg was there, Dennis Hopper

17:42

and Chet Baker. Yeah,

17:44

I mean you. You know what's

17:46

interesting about the list of these folks that

17:49

that was strike thing. If

17:52

you eat a look at how many of

17:54

the names are associated with some type of

17:57

tragedy. You know, really?

17:59

they themselves and. Tragic death

18:01

or. Their. Lifestyle was

18:03

well known to be. You.

18:05

Know. Very. Very, very

18:08

loose. The. Alpha view of

18:10

putting it lightly. Yes, Now.

18:14

If you go little bit further back,

18:16

Mark Twain, William Dean Howells, and a

18:18

painter John Sloan all stay there as

18:20

well. Or. Jack Kerouac. We

18:22

all know who Jack Kerouac as,

18:25

right? Of. We. Yeah.

18:27

Hopefully. These. Stay there as

18:29

well and while there he wrote.

18:32

On. The road. Yep, you read

18:34

that. You. Ever read on the road?

18:36

know. It's some.

18:39

It's it's it's a great. It's

18:41

a great book. I'm. It's

18:45

It's a stream of consciousness.

18:47

Okay, it's just like. It's

18:51

like you're You're right there. I mean

18:53

it's is not really tell stories just like

18:55

it's like he's telling you what's going on.

18:57

When he says he says to l he's

19:00

on the phone with. A guy

19:02

and I were sitting on the back of a

19:04

truck a we just stopped and got some whiskey.

19:06

just so cold. You know, You're

19:09

suddenly that. Jack. Kerouac I

19:11

know who he. Who he

19:13

is, but. I never got into.

19:16

A lot of his stuff for. A

19:18

similar reason. It just. It

19:21

didn't fit what I was looking for the

19:23

time. When. I was looking for some

19:25

read. I. I. And

19:28

I swear on the road never got. In

19:31

mind. In my reading

19:33

list. It's not something you're going

19:35

to get a sign at school. I can tell you that

19:37

that's now. Worth.

19:41

Of the people that stay there, Stanley Kubrick

19:43

and Arthur C. Clarke stay there and they

19:45

came up with the movie. Two.

19:47

Thousand and One A Space Odyssey. while they

19:49

were standing. And one

19:52

flew over the cuckoo's Nest was

19:54

supposedly written thereby. Milas Foreman. And

19:56

it was apparently based on a crazy

19:59

amount of. Art is that Walk the

20:01

halls of the Chelsea Hotel. Yeah. I

20:04

mean you know, And you if you. If

20:07

you're familiar with Meals for

20:09

Men's of other films and

20:11

other works, You can like

20:13

men. He was a little. Over.

20:16

Over the Cuckoo's Nest? who's the arm

20:18

in arm way from his time? And

20:20

Chelsea? You know, It

20:23

is. It just fits. When I

20:25

saw his name come up as

20:27

when you know one of the

20:29

past residents, they are as I

20:31

oh yeah I would. I would

20:33

absolutely have thought this. You know

20:35

this guy's here. Been.

20:38

A. Great.

20:40

Filmmaker. You.

20:43

Know, a fantastic writer, but

20:45

there's. A nerf of the twist

20:47

their you're like. Man.

20:49

Okay, what was he thinking? Yeah.

20:52

Well. Yes, this is what he was

20:54

thinking. he wasn't can about all this.

20:56

You know, all this stuff that was

20:58

just around these folks all the time.

21:01

The Up: And if he wants. One

21:04

flew over the cuckoo's nest. And.

21:07

You think again. That Chelsea

21:09

was based. Or or it

21:11

was based on what happened in the Chelsea.

21:14

I. Think I would have been afraid. Of

21:17

Sclc. Like personally, I I don't

21:19

think I could have stayed there. Now.

21:23

Arthur. Miller moved in to

21:25

rule number six fourteen after

21:28

he divorced Marilyn Monroe. Bob.

21:31

Dylan wrote sarah. The.

21:33

Song: Sarah. In. Number.

21:36

Two Eleven. And then

21:38

sell C became the background for

21:41

Andy Warhol and Paul Morrissey Chelsea

21:43

Girls which go figure he named

21:45

it after. A

21:48

William Burroughs wrote The Third Man.

21:51

And Jack Kerouac apparently had a one night

21:53

stand there with gore of adult. Now.

21:57

Didn't know. There's another.

21:59

I'm. I. Lived another.

22:02

Well. How does Tell you where is

22:04

a kiss? Leonard Cohen. That.

22:07

While. He was at the Chelsea.

22:10

He was dating Janis Joplin. And

22:13

apparently he got a little and

22:15

heh heh heh heh from us.

22:17

there's. A guy.

22:19

And. He wrote a second song

22:21

about it. They called it Chelsea Hotel

22:24

number Two. And. There's one called

22:26

I had to leave out. But

22:29

disco listen to the the. Chelsea

22:31

Hotel number two song and you'll know the line.

22:34

And. Lines I had to leave out, but. The. Court

22:36

I can put in here. he said quote are. I.

22:38

Remember you well And the Chelsea

22:40

Hotel. Yeah. But there was another

22:42

song that gets. Really? Deep into

22:44

what they did. When

22:47

they were assess assess as the

22:49

Chelsea. So. It's an

22:51

interesting song. But it's funny

22:54

is I don't. I don't

22:56

associate Leonard Cohen. With.

22:58

Janis Joplin and Oh No No.

23:01

I mean that be like saying. Oh

23:04

ah you know the the does

23:06

the the be the man that

23:08

has of men and women from

23:10

Abba. You. Know were partying

23:13

with motley crew. With. With

23:15

reality. But.

23:17

That's what it's like to me a

23:20

ah I use the term dating. To.

23:23

Be. A

23:26

good yep are. Now

23:29

Madonna see had a photo shoot for

23:31

her books Sex and Room A Twenty

23:33

Two there and Mariah Carey apparently shot

23:36

a music video there. Now

23:38

Dylan Thomas. Which.

23:40

I don't know. if you know, don't Thomas'

23:43

I'm not very familiar with Dylan Thomas. I

23:45

know who is of a number of most

23:47

of the poet. Yeah, yep, he died in

23:49

his bedroom and nineteen fifty three of the

23:51

Chelsea Hotel. Having boasted. That. Day

23:54

he down eighteen whiskies

23:56

quote. I. Have had eighteen

23:58

straight whiskey said Thomas after polishing off

24:01

a bottle of Old Granddad on the

24:03

last day of his life. Quote: I

24:05

think that's the record. Yeah,

24:08

so you. Know if I if

24:10

if I had that much. Whiskey.

24:13

I think I might died too. And I love

24:16

whiskey. That. That's a lot.

24:18

So. Much. T

24:21

Y and I know who Dylan

24:23

Thomas is around. So.

24:26

If if if if I'm remembering

24:28

correctly do you remember the movie.

24:31

Back. To School The

24:33

Rodney Dangerfield movie. Yeah.

24:35

okay, so. He's.

24:39

He's got a hit the

24:41

romantic interest so Rodney Dangerfield.

24:43

that movie is. Sally

24:45

Kellerman. I'm saying so

24:48

they're both. They're both older,

24:50

you know, sees a professor

24:52

and. He learns.

24:56

The. The Dylan Thomas

24:58

poem. As it has

25:01

the line, you know. Do.

25:03

Not go gentle into that good night.

25:06

Yeah. I'm. And

25:09

there's a there's a lie there. really

25:11

psyched, you know, whatever summer as a

25:13

system of Dylan and he's like Olive

25:15

Bob Dylan. Like. Such a

25:18

deal and I'm talking about yeah. That's.

25:20

That's why know who? Dylan Thomas? Oh

25:23

I was. I was never. I was

25:26

never into poetry. Ever. I'm.

25:29

It especially not like modern poetry.

25:31

You know what? what? Dylan Thomas?

25:33

Who? Yeah, Ill from what I

25:35

wrote, some. You. Know fairly fairly

25:38

dark stuff, but very deep. Now

25:40

he wrote some bangers and for sure?

25:42

yeah, just I never really got into.

25:45

The. I hour and a big poetry guy.

25:47

I'm. A light. Pole.

25:50

And Shakespeare and stuff. but.

25:53

Newer. Poetry had and get into. Or.

25:55

Sid Vicious and Nancy Sponge and.

25:58

Where. They are as well. As. I

26:00

know Matt. We'll talk more about them later, but. Cheryl.

26:03

Tip and said. Quote.

26:05

When. The Great Depression struck. The

26:08

hotel was threadbare and lost much

26:10

of it seen. The. In

26:12

in the Nineteen sixties and Seventies. Emergent

26:15

drug culture and a plethora of

26:17

social stressors and financial problems took

26:19

a toll. More. Recently she

26:22

says. Greenfield. Real estate

26:24

transactions film the pockets of investors

26:26

was causing untold heart ache for

26:28

the residents. So.

26:32

The. Chelsea actually closed it's doors in

26:34

two thousand and eleven to do renovations.

26:38

But. There was a handful of people

26:40

that still live there in the falling apart rooms.

26:42

But. Then there was a

26:44

documentary crew that came in. It

26:47

was headed by Belgium directors. A meal went

26:49

into. An Maya do

26:51

their day. The.

26:54

Film. And. They

26:56

filmed the day to day lives

26:58

of the quote Bohemians that remained

27:01

in the Chelsea because they had

27:03

nowhere else to go. Quote.

27:06

We wanted to stay with the residents

27:08

that really stayed there all their lives.

27:10

Vanier. Told a nicht

27:13

cn from and other magazine.

27:15

Quote: So. It's Not Joni Mitchell,

27:18

Patti Smith, or Bob Dylan. For. Us

27:20

It was a political engagement to

27:22

make the people who participated to

27:24

create those big names really visible.

27:27

Without. Them: Bob Dylan wouldn't have

27:29

been Bob Dylan. Patti Smith wouldn't

27:31

have found her way. As

27:34

you don't become a great artist from

27:36

scratch, it's because of a variety of

27:38

people. Who exchange their

27:40

creativity? Yeah. So

27:43

just like we mentioned earlier, The.

27:45

The environment. The people there

27:47

help these people create their

27:49

masterpieces, create their works of

27:51

art. Because of.

27:54

The. Eccentric.

27:58

Culture. That was it. The Chelsea. Yeah

28:00

I mean you regardless

28:02

of your your medium.

28:05

You. Don't become a great artist

28:08

without experiences. Ran. A

28:10

I feel if you've ever. Yell. Saw

28:12

it. I in

28:15

a was a you know

28:17

this this song writer, this

28:19

painter, this author they they

28:21

have. Some. Fascinating

28:23

story about. You. Know

28:25

how they grew up or what's

28:28

something that happened to them early

28:30

in life? For. Something.

28:32

That. That change. Their

28:34

direction. At. Some point,

28:36

it's just like you. You'd.

28:39

You don't get to that.

28:42

That. Cynical. And

28:44

unless you go through some.

28:48

Pretty. Wild Experiences rhino to

28:51

To. It's almost like it's

28:53

like salt. You. Know that

28:55

everybody he knows you eat bland

28:57

food. You're like it's good. You.

29:00

Know, but it's it's not seasoned. These.

29:03

Artists were season. And.

29:05

Noom. The The Chelsea Hotel.

29:08

Served. As a large part

29:10

of that seasoning? Just dumping them

29:12

in this melting pot with. Me:

29:14

Know people from. You. Know

29:17

every kind of imaginable.

29:19

Artistic, Background. Are

29:22

you from from Jackson Pollock to

29:24

Joni Mitchell? Who. You

29:26

know I'm I mean, that's that's how

29:29

they. Expanded.

29:32

Their. Christ. Or

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33:45

the best because you've lived life up until

33:47

that point. After. That. You.

33:49

Spend a lotta time on the road. So.

33:52

If you're on a road, getting in a bus.

33:55

Driving. To venue getting out playing, getting back

33:57

on the bus, driving in the next been you. You're

34:00

not experiencing much. Yeah, so what are

34:02

you going? Write a song about? Being

34:04

on the road? You

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know, The. It's experiencing life,

34:09

experiencing different things that happened

34:11

to ups and downs and.

34:14

The. The crazy people that you

34:16

run into that help you write

34:18

these good songs So. A

34:21

lot of the the stuff that

34:23

was there was because of these

34:25

crazy people. The. The.

34:27

Personalities that they met that they were

34:30

able to craft a song or craft

34:32

painting around. Yeah, and I mean you

34:34

know, growing up and national. And

34:37

you haven't lived here for. What?

34:39

Fifteen years and I'm.

34:42

You know you and I both we.

34:44

We knew. Tons

34:46

of of songwriters. Famous.

34:49

Ones struggling ones you know, young

34:51

people that just said. Hey. Listen

34:53

the song I wrote new like. Okay as

34:55

and you're like holy cow. Illness

34:58

Amazing. Feel.

35:00

It, it's just you know, uses had a

35:02

but the first album be in the best

35:04

You know you've got these people. They're riding

35:07

the songs because they're trying to make. The.

35:09

The you know they're pouring their heart

35:11

and soul into these songs and yep

35:14

but like a third album after you

35:16

the all that first one made famous.

35:18

Know. Now now you're writing songs

35:21

to just try to keep keep it

35:23

going. And as much harder, I've

35:25

always thought that. Those

35:27

come back albums. You know that?

35:29

Those. Artists that tana. In

35:32

I'll say did out. And then

35:34

than that, you know. You. Find

35:36

some crazies. Happened for the last ten

35:39

years in their life and then they

35:41

have a comeback album. You're like holy

35:43

cow their backs, You know this is

35:46

a task. Ah. It's it's

35:48

experience. you know? I just use exactly

35:50

I I. You're right, I can't I

35:52

can't live life on a tour

35:54

bus. You know, I

35:56

just I see sit down in a. Two

36:00

million dollar mansion in. Writing.

36:03

Songs of Struggle and or anything

36:05

else in the song I've ever

36:07

written. It was any good as

36:09

but been because something bad. Has

36:12

happened to me? Something crazy. Know

36:14

you know when I'm happy and

36:16

living my normal life songs? don't

36:18

come here so you gotta put

36:21

yourself in. Places. Like

36:23

the Chelsea, Sit for a while where there's.

36:26

Stuff. Happening around you all the time. You see

36:28

good parts of life. You see bad parts of

36:30

life. You. See the light. A

36:32

tip ins were saying you see the

36:34

drug culture, You see the addiction. And

36:37

you're able to write songs about

36:39

as exactly right so we know

36:41

when all that. And.

36:44

In there's. All this

36:46

magic that's happening in the

36:48

Chelsea Hotel, The it's it's

36:50

gonna leave. Some

36:53

energy good, bad and other

36:55

was okay. and and all

36:58

of that energy over you

37:00

know of a century. Ah,

37:04

Maybe. What has worked

37:06

to. Hold. On

37:08

to the spirits that are

37:10

reported being in the Chelsea

37:12

Hotel. On. The

37:15

other thing is. With. All of

37:17

those names we mentioned on and

37:20

especially combining the drug culture there

37:22

was a lot of death. At

37:25

the Chelsea. even even before you

37:27

know the sixties and seventies, you

37:29

know early on. There. Were some.

37:32

The. Are you know really horrific

37:34

things that occurred there? Yeah,

37:36

we're for example. Society.

37:39

Girl Our mirror wilcox.

37:42

See died of an overdose

37:44

of sleep medication. In

37:46

the Chelsea in Nineteen O. Meu.

37:50

Okay and early. Yeah, And.

37:53

It was assumed that this

37:55

was probably a suicide. The

37:58

very next year and. No. Nine

38:01

artist Frank to Vecchi ah

38:03

shot himself after he was

38:05

robbed of money belonging to

38:07

the Hungarian Sick and Benevolent

38:09

Society. So

38:11

he he had hit all this money, he

38:13

was robbed and now that. The.

38:16

Benevolent Society was without all of this money

38:19

and he was his fault. So

38:21

he shot himself in a hotel. It's

38:24

ninety know none. Ala that's

38:26

a store you think you hear from

38:28

like nineteen seventy sixers, Some. New.

38:32

Now in Nineteen Twenty two. A

38:34

tell could grass who was the

38:37

daughter of a well to do

38:39

silk merchants arm. Cut. Off

38:41

her own A and. With. Industrial,

38:44

Sears. And jumped

38:46

out of a fifth floor window. And

38:49

I get in my head I'm sit

38:51

there thinking what? What? They were Industrial

38:53

Sears. I pictured this giant pair of

38:55

scissors but I'm I had a you

38:58

cut your own hand off with a

39:00

giant pair of scissors. Yeah know. So

39:02

I I found another article about this.

39:04

This was like job. Like.

39:06

A paper or a fabric cutter like

39:09

a scout and make lever a good

39:11

team to have league long blade and

39:13

you course you measure out how much

39:16

needed. Point dance that. Is

39:18

what seas and in the

39:20

story was is that. Would.

39:22

See did it! The pain was so

39:25

intense. That. To

39:27

you just jumped out the window. While.

39:30

Because I'm like a vision is your by the window.

39:32

Why? Cut your hand off first. Yeah,

39:35

you know, right at all or sense. but

39:37

obviously there were some problems or. But.

39:40

Nineteen Sixty Seven. Or

39:42

eighty Sedgwick. Was. High

39:45

on a speed ball. And

39:47

guy and she said a room on

39:49

far. Thank. You.

39:52

Charles or Jackson who is author

39:54

of the Last Weekend. Committed.

39:56

Suicide There in nineteen Sixty Eight.

39:59

And in. The Seventy Four. Billie Maynard,

40:01

who was a photographer the specialized

40:03

in glam, rock acts and trains

40:06

performers was beaten to death in

40:08

his room. Okay,

40:10

so the lot of stuff

40:12

that happened: suicide and violent

40:15

deaths. Were

40:17

unfortunately were commonplace in the Chelsea.

40:19

Oh tales that gonna as gonna

40:21

leave a mark. Your. Now.

40:24

One. Of the most popular deaths

40:27

involved a woman by the name

40:29

of Nancy Sponge and. Now.

40:31

He's ever heard that name before? Must

40:33

tell you why. You know it in

40:35

life see was the girlfriend or the

40:37

basis of the group. The. Sex

40:40

Pistols, Nypd Sid Vicious, Now

40:43

nice. He had left home when she

40:45

was seventeen ah and immediately moved to

40:47

New York City and got a job

40:50

as a stripper. So.

40:52

He said that see enjoyed

40:54

following these bands around. Like.

40:56

Arrowsmith's and The Ramones. But.

40:59

In the year Nineteen Seventy Seven see

41:01

relocated to London and met the lead

41:03

singer of the Sex Pistols. Now,

41:06

despite the fact that see

41:08

showed an interest for the

41:10

lead singer who's Johnny Rotten,

41:13

If he. Wasn't interested in Nancy.

41:17

So. When see realize that he

41:19

wasn't interested. See.

41:21

Started to move in on

41:23

Sid Vicious know and soon

41:25

they started a relationship and

41:27

even moved in together. Now.

41:30

See the Sex Pistols have Sex

41:32

Pistols officially broke up in Nineteen

41:34

Seventy Eight and see and said

41:37

move to the Chelsea Hotel. He

41:40

said that the couple lived in room

41:42

one hundred under different names than they

41:44

were known for in the public. But.

41:47

He's been said that the couple continued

41:50

to delve deeper into drugs and is

41:52

there were many heated arguments between them.

41:55

On. October twelfth and Nineteen Seventy Eight

41:58

Maids You was discovered dead. The

42:00

bathroom floor of the the of the

42:02

room at the it to Chelsea hotel

42:04

in see it was arrested for her

42:06

mother. He got released

42:08

in was awaiting trial when he took his

42:11

last hit a heroin and dad. Many

42:13

believe that some of the famous goes

42:15

to the hotel. Or. That

42:17

of Nancy, Sponge in and Sid

42:20

Vicious. Yep! Same. it's.

42:22

Famous. Ghosts. The Oh. both

42:24

I and both of them died. Ah I'm.

42:27

Tragic. Deaths. In the

42:29

hotel. Him and something I

42:31

heard about that. There.

42:33

Was a lot of controversy around

42:36

that because. Some. People are

42:38

saying well the drug dealer. Killed.

42:41

Nancy. And. Then said took

42:43

the blame for. It. Or. That

42:45

there was some males weird that happened and he

42:47

was taken the blame for it. But.

42:50

Not. Only was there. A

42:53

murder. And then uno de.

42:56

But. There's. Crazy. Mystery

42:58

behind it to right right? Yeah

43:00

yeah and any all as a

43:02

lot of people thought that he

43:04

said was guilty and that he

43:06

committed suicide. But. There's you

43:09

know, others, it's sights. He didn't mean

43:11

to kill himself, he was just trying

43:13

add to get ah right. You don't

43:15

forget about everything that was going on.

43:18

Now the. Next, das that's considered

43:20

to be quite popular when it

43:22

comes as a hotel is that

43:24

that of poet and rider Dylan

43:27

Thomas? oh, he talked about earlier.

43:30

Now. There's. A lot of people

43:32

that claim Dylan Thomas.of alcohol poisoning

43:34

is Adam said he had eighteen

43:36

whiskies in a row. And

43:38

bragged about it. And

43:41

based on reports from doctors it

43:43

was established that. Thomas

43:45

was suffering from bronchitis, pneumonia,

43:47

and a relatively high white

43:50

blood cell. Meaning. That

43:52

he was fighting And insects. Since

43:55

his death, he has apparently join the ranks

43:57

of a Thing as ghosts that are.

44:00

The heart the Chelsea Hotel and

44:02

many claim that they have seen

44:04

his face on numerous occasions, especially

44:06

around around the room to o'

44:09

Six which is where he passed

44:11

away. Know.

44:15

With. Any Tana haunted hotel.

44:18

The. Staff are the people who

44:20

talked. Okay, Yeah, they're

44:22

the ones that are gonna be there.

44:25

You. Know they're the ones that are going

44:27

to be watching your. They.

44:29

Are gonna experience this stuff more than

44:31

you know? even the resonance and many

44:34

cases. So there

44:36

was a night security man

44:38

named Timur. T.

44:41

I m O R as I guess that's

44:43

how you pronounce it. To him

44:45

Or to more? To more. Maybe. Now.

44:48

See told residents Timothy Connor

44:50

Solomon who was a musician.

44:52

That. A call girl named Victoria

44:54

who dressed in style herself like

44:57

Betty Boop. Died of

44:59

aids while leaving it though. Tell. Some.

45:02

Time later, The. Rooms

45:04

New Tenant. Called. To

45:06

more. Timur. To more

45:08

to me from enter. And

45:11

and asked. That. Her room

45:13

be chased. She

45:16

looked in the mirror and saw the

45:18

image of Victoria staring back at her.

45:21

With. The Betty Boop bangs in all. Good.

45:23

Grief Yes. And break,

45:26

yeah that's the that's that Apparently

45:28

was a common thing is people

45:30

go in another room. There's

45:34

already somebody here is into the

45:36

office ssssss and it's is. currently

45:38

have a tenant here. They're scaring

45:40

the crap out of the Synthesis.

45:43

But you know that the Chelsea's had

45:46

it's fair share of the typical haunted

45:48

hotel aspect seal. There are. Reports.

45:51

Of unexplained voices. Presences.

45:54

And energies. Lights.

45:56

And false it's going on and

45:58

off these vague. Feelings of

46:01

fear and sadness? Ah or

46:03

or having a seal. I'm.

46:06

In in certain cold spots in

46:08

the hotel. But. The

46:11

Hollings in the Chelsea are is

46:13

varied as the artists that frequented

46:15

their. Cities. A

46:17

blurry looking apparition that walked right

46:20

through a bedroom wall. Or.

46:23

A skeleton in a photograph

46:25

that wasn't there before. Are

46:28

great and a depression era urchin

46:30

who sit the woman in the

46:32

shins and zionist. That

46:36

would be weird about this

46:38

one. A floating disembodied clown

46:40

had this looks. Like.

46:42

Dylan Thomas. That's.

46:45

That's. Worse yes, workers

46:47

success in that. There's.

46:49

Hypnotic voices that lures passer

46:52

rise into a womb like

46:54

pope or room. Weird.

46:57

Yeah, and there's an old fashioned woman

46:59

near the ice machine. Said.

47:02

Does. She. Smells of petula

47:04

and she's crying about her

47:06

quote beloved. Ah,

47:09

And there is an energy. The Hand

47:11

is a guest, a glow in the

47:14

dark for his in room Nine sixteen.

47:17

Assists. I

47:20

had some okay as that's

47:22

probably one of the weirdest

47:24

things that we have heard

47:26

as far as haunting ago

47:28

or who's Going dark, Freeze?

47:30

Be Man vs and Poof.

47:32

Disappeared. This right? But.

47:35

I. Want to know? Did he say and like did

47:37

he keep the phrase beard in the Frisbee? Go

47:39

with the ghost when lives? Yeah, don't know. I

47:41

mean if he gave it through the now she's

47:43

got this glow in the North Frisbee in the

47:45

goes to school. Special wants you

47:47

to have this. Mineral Frisbee on

47:50

keep them for his Me fifth rights.

47:52

What is? He threw the frisbee and

47:54

then it disappeared. Ah mean

47:56

that would sort of success, but.

48:00

This one that I've.

48:03

Nowhere. In is all

48:05

the years we've done this. All.

48:07

The research. All. The

48:09

books, all the. Movies,

48:11

videos every they. Have

48:14

I ever heard anything quite like. Larry.

48:17

The. Talkative hipster ghost to assess

48:20

assess as a he was

48:22

a ghost before it was

48:24

cool to be exact. Surface

48:26

us right? So Larry the

48:29

ghost is probably the Chelsea's

48:31

most famous resonant spirit. Now

48:34

for with a description like that, yeah,

48:36

why not? In my

48:38

head he looks like Leisure Suit Larry. Known

48:41

from the video below the white suit y

48:43

la belle. Via. The.

48:46

Main thing about Larry's that he

48:48

never stopped talking. And.

48:50

This is upsetting the other ghosts.

48:53

Of because they're all so eager to

48:55

tell their stories once they find someone

48:57

who can hear or see them. But

49:01

Larry always pushes his why does the front

49:03

and starts. Let's hearing in such a loud

49:05

voice that the other st get a word

49:07

in edgewise. And sound

49:09

right. But the thing about Larry

49:12

is he wants people to know

49:14

these three things. One.

49:18

It's what's inside the Chelsea.

49:20

That's. Real. Everything

49:22

outside of it. In.

49:25

The so called city is an illusion.

49:28

That that. Sounds Vs

49:30

on her it's only in

49:33

here and it's real

49:35

mean everything outside his news.

49:39

Yeah. And solas pretty good. Thanks.

49:41

I get seats and shown with. As.

49:44

He had my time around him and his people.

49:48

And new Those people. Me. Larry

49:51

also says that there was

49:53

something there long before the

49:55

Chelsea was built that is

49:57

the source of the places

49:59

creative. Work. And

50:02

lastly, it's. It's.

50:05

Not about the product. The.

50:07

Specific art. It's created. It's

50:10

about the life this lead at

50:12

the Chelsea Hotel. That's.

50:14

What's important Man says

50:16

like yeah, death. And

50:19

a You know enough people have

50:21

heard this. That. You

50:24

will find this exact

50:26

seen in so many

50:28

stories and documentary about

50:30

the Chelsea Hotel. I

50:33

mean for almost verbatim,

50:36

It's bad lies. It's sales.

50:38

See me. Not

50:40

woods you create, right?

50:43

You. Create Easy. Long.

50:46

As you need school that. I

50:50

would love it if he sounded like that.

50:52

I mean that we had a the ground

50:55

many years to manage and any V P

50:57

and that's all that would catch. You know?

51:00

Like is there anybody hear that

51:02

wants to talk to each Me:

51:04

Leery me? What? This

51:06

This is Guy. It's Larry. This

51:09

a ghost. Your name Larry. Here.

51:12

I am a hipster mean. This.

51:15

Is Real. But.

51:17

You know, some some well

51:19

known people that have stayed

51:21

in the Chelsea have had.

51:24

Paranormal. Experiences while. Been.

51:27

A while they were live

51:29

in there and I'm like

51:31

novelist Sparkle Haider sparkle. Haider.

51:34

I. Really didn't think I was going to have trouble saying

51:36

that the one I tried to say it. Together.

51:39

That. That miss my tongue up. I'm.

51:41

A Glitter Haider. Is that the

51:43

as soon as a starter? But

51:47

but C C occupied a room

51:49

on the third floor that once

51:52

belonged to a drug dealer. Who.

51:54

Was wanted by the police for

51:56

allegedly keeping a woman prisoner there.

52:00

Ah, I. Mean this? This This

52:02

hardcore mean. Yeah. It's

52:04

crazy. But the next occupant of

52:07

that room for a couple who

52:09

became well known for their violent

52:11

domestic disputes. But.

52:14

Was sparkle was away on book

52:16

tours. She says that

52:18

her neighbors report hearing typing come in

52:20

from her apartment. This make

52:22

the fact that it's supposed to be empty. And.

52:26

She's also quoted is reporting. I.

52:29

Often saw the shadow of a crouched

52:31

woman in a corner of my room

52:33

late at night and heard weeping. When.

52:37

I walked toward it. It would

52:39

disappear. Spelled

52:41

out would be bambee Freaky. That would be

52:44

really for. This to hear

52:46

weeping in the corner of your room.

52:48

I mean, you know it's one thing

52:50

to have a ghost in your room.

52:52

It's another thing to have some once

52:55

tortured soul. Yeah. In your

52:57

way up. I mean that's that's ah

52:59

at that would be awful. Govern

53:02

try to help. maybe I'm on a

53:04

console this ghost and then they disappear.

53:09

Learn. Their lot in the afterlife is

53:12

not to be consoled. You're a heist.

53:15

Now. Artist. Jennifer

53:17

A. Shapiro reports. There.

53:20

Was definitely something going on on the

53:22

tenth floor. I could

53:24

seal the energy. I've.

53:27

Had some moments where my hair just stood up

53:29

and I knew I had to run and get

53:31

off their floor. One

53:33

time around Ninety Ninety Seven. She.

53:36

Says my roommate. saw a ghost of a

53:38

man standing in our kitchen in the middle

53:40

of the night around to in the morning.

53:43

says. That it was Crazy. And.

53:45

It's and it scared me Oh my yes you

53:47

know you you were up. you go to the

53:49

kids and is already have some money in their

53:52

drink in your milk in a. Scare

53:54

me to. A

53:57

celebrity photographer Lisa Ackerman.

54:00

The lived at the Chelsea between two

54:02

thousand and two thousand and thirteen, so

54:04

she was there. After it was.

54:06

Officially closed. Her.

54:09

Ghost is unusual because

54:12

see new her personally.

54:14

Okay, And. It wasn't a human.

54:17

Ruin. Yeah, Ackerman says. The.

54:20

Only ghost I can say I

54:22

encountered was my dog Mags. Rail.

54:25

And yes, he says, after she died in

54:27

two thousand and twelve, I'd feel something jump

54:29

up on my bed and plot down at

54:31

my seat. When. I would look.

54:33

I didn't see anything. This.

54:35

What happened for me time to time until

54:37

I moved away. Oh.

54:39

It's wild. Now. Look.

54:42

I love my dogs! Okay,

54:45

If a father, my dogs ghosts are going

54:47

to come back and live in miles, I'd

54:49

be okay with that. Yeah.

54:52

I'm. At my old house

54:54

there where we started this show. Ellie

54:58

My Jack Russell passed away

55:00

as right and I swear

55:02

multiple times. I. Saw l

55:05

a lane on the bed. Or

55:07

I felt her. Lay. Down on

55:09

the bed so I know exactly what

55:11

she's taught. Remember that? Yeah, I remember

55:13

you telling me about that. And.

55:16

Yeah, I'm fine. With. Any

55:18

of my pets wanna come hang out. After.

55:21

They pass. Yeah, come on, bring it

55:23

in. A I still want Dallas pulls

55:25

out and around. Miss that boy our

55:27

now and I wish he'd come visit

55:30

Great Dogs A meme nem. Every

55:32

I don't remember. Go back and listen to

55:34

the early shows and you can hear Dallas

55:36

his collar when he would he would need

55:39

is a delay in there while we record.

55:41

The. Up or he was behind us or F

55:43

L. And on only pp ever

55:46

made was a mover some been a new

55:48

can hear his collar but. That

55:50

was the best dog ever own. He can

55:52

come hang out any yeah if I ever

55:55

was eating anything. You. Know is

55:57

I come in almighty some senior some

55:59

we had we like that whorehouse Jamie

56:01

and stuff football team members of and

56:04

Hour of Dallas would tell him and

56:06

he would sit under the table. I

56:08

cleared my legs yeah you know and

56:11

I'd read sound and rubbing. You.

56:13

Know but him and he was just like you're eating

56:15

and then once if I wasn't eating any more than

56:17

a go back in his bed. If. They

56:20

had read their between Your Knees Weight and

56:22

V to drop some. Yeah please please drop

56:24

some. Have

56:27

you ever seen that show? Celebrity Go Stories.

56:30

Yeah. But. I

56:32

mean I'm of watch like a

56:34

moment episode here but I've I've

56:36

seen a couple. of the was

56:38

on smell. This. Story.

56:41

Comes from that show.

56:44

Again, It's one of the best

56:46

known spectral encounters at the Chelsea. Was.

56:49

Reported by Michael Imperioli of

56:51

the Sopranos. Who. Say when

56:53

he was on celebrity go stories in

56:55

two thousand t as he talked about

56:58

having lived in the hotel for a

57:00

couple of months in Nineteen Ninety Six

57:02

which was prior to him you know,

57:04

becoming famous. And he

57:07

encountered a weeping woman in the hallway.

57:10

The Since You addresses in

57:12

nineteenth century garb. Si

57:15

les hunt, don't the

57:17

floor weeping inconsolably sounds

57:19

familiar. Been.

57:21

A light fixture behind him made a popping

57:24

sound where the light bulb or just burn

57:26

out. And. When he turned

57:28

to look in and back. He. Said

57:30

the woman was gone. Oh

57:32

wow. It wasn't until a week or

57:34

two afterwards that he spoke with some

57:36

neighbors in the building and he learned

57:39

about Mary. Now.

57:41

Mary's Tail is one of the most

57:43

famous go stories of details. See.

57:46

Was a survivor of the

57:48

Titanic. And

57:51

see real and yeah And N

57:53

N The Chelsea. Housed.

57:57

Ah a lot of the survivors when they

57:59

when they. Brought back. From.

58:01

The Titanic Disaster. But

58:04

the bad thing about mary

58:06

situation is. In. In the

58:08

sinking of the ship she lost her husband.

58:12

She was depressed and distraught.

58:15

And. See. Ended up

58:17

at the Chelsea. And it says

58:19

that she hung herself. On. The

58:21

fifth for. Now.

58:24

These days. Mary's.

58:26

Encountered at the western end of the

58:28

building. She's. Often seen

58:31

under the archway in the hallway

58:33

and it's said that Mary is

58:35

always looking at herself in the

58:37

mirror, which gives her a reputation

58:39

as being the vein ghost. Them

58:42

vi. And. Loud. New.

58:45

Like. Rain was in your ear or. Ah

58:48

my very closely. Yeah, you get yada

58:50

yada name is explain. But.

58:53

One thing to remember. Married does

58:56

not like to be bothered by

58:58

the living. So if

59:00

you do see her. Do. Not

59:02

expect any welcoming words or gestures.

59:05

Married perceives the living as

59:07

an annoyance said. Little.

59:10

Wonder that She gave Michael Imperioli a sign

59:12

that he was not wanted in her ghostly

59:14

space. Now

59:17

another famous spirit around the Chelsea

59:20

is that of Nadia. A

59:23

ten years after, Mary has hung

59:25

herself. The. New York Times reported

59:27

a young woman who had jumped out of

59:29

the window. Now

59:31

Nadia story goes like this: She

59:34

had grown up. In. The Hotel.

59:37

She was the spoiled daughter. Of.

59:39

A wealthy silk merchant. Rumor we talked

59:41

about this earlier. Whose.

59:45

Family lived in in a very

59:47

posh sweet in the hotel. Now.

59:51

See was an artist. Butter.

59:53

Plans to pursue her vision were cut

59:55

short when she met a handsome song

59:57

and ran away with him to get

59:59

married. Now Naughty

1:00:01

is husband eventually slipped into alcoholism

1:00:04

and left her alone with her

1:00:06

two young children. Nadia,

1:00:09

Return to the Chelsea and pleaded to

1:00:11

her father to return. And

1:00:13

he said she could. But only.

1:00:15

Under the condition that she would take

1:00:17

on the family chores and help bring

1:00:19

in income. Only these

1:00:22

people are wealthy. You. Know. But.

1:00:24

I guess you know Dad was like. A

1:00:26

for gonna come back. You're gonna work. You.

1:00:29

Know you're going to earn. But.

1:00:33

But lies had become really too much to

1:00:35

bear. She. Had no time

1:00:37

for our any and eventually she'd had

1:00:39

enough. See seen

1:00:42

roaming the halls and the sidewalk

1:00:44

on Twenty Third Street. Or.

1:00:46

See is said to have. C

1:00:49

is seen as a transparent apparition

1:00:51

with a long wispy gail. And

1:00:54

they say it's on moonless night That

1:00:57

naughty it can be seen slitting outside

1:00:59

the windows of the upper floors The

1:01:01

Chelsea Hotel. Or long hair and

1:01:03

wispy white gown slowing behind her. She

1:01:06

wants to come back to the Chelsea Hotel.

1:01:09

But. She can't find her way back in such.

1:01:13

As I have been it's you know it's a neat

1:01:15

story. I mean it. It's it's. a

1:01:17

cool story. You.

1:01:20

Know who knows if that story is

1:01:22

is. A hundred percent accurate

1:01:24

And we we we know about.

1:01:26

Ah I'm. You. Know a wealthy

1:01:28

silk merchants that was a residence Their.

1:01:32

But that we get to two different

1:01:34

go stories that are tongue tied. To.

1:01:36

That individual. Ah, So.

1:01:39

Eight yards. It's hard to say.

1:01:42

But. There's a weird that she's trapped

1:01:44

outside the hotel. Yes, Light well

1:01:46

that seeking a by against. Well.

1:01:49

Some what they say what? what they said in

1:01:51

the in in articles issue is another one that

1:01:53

jump. Okay, See

1:01:56

jump. So we see hit the sidewalk

1:01:58

on Twenty Third Street. Yeah. That's where

1:02:00

she met her end. And.

1:02:02

I guess it's kind of a up

1:02:05

a poetic saying that. You. Know

1:02:07

she was. She was wanting to come

1:02:09

back here in in wise. And.

1:02:11

Then died. On. The

1:02:14

sidewalk outside, in our spirit,

1:02:16

is tormented. Beginning It's yes,

1:02:18

it's hideous, is very poetic.

1:02:20

so. Many a

1:02:22

it sounds like a lot of people I've

1:02:25

seen this spirits and this is kind of

1:02:27

the story they attached to it. Know.

1:02:30

You're a belly said it may

1:02:32

not be understand accurate. It's a

1:02:34

good story on but the hauling

1:02:36

the haunting is definitely their the

1:02:38

you know I'm than naughty. A

1:02:40

spirit is seen quite frequently. I'm.

1:02:43

A or was seen quite recently by the

1:02:45

residents. There's. No.

1:02:49

I. Want to? Don't want to close with

1:02:51

some some more from Cheryl tip ins. Sees.

1:02:55

The author of the Both The Dream Palace.

1:02:57

The. Life and Times of the New

1:02:59

York's legendary Chelsea Hotel Arm Adam

1:03:02

is quoted or are several times

1:03:04

in referencing you know the the

1:03:06

people and the art and culture

1:03:09

around the Hotel. But.

1:03:12

Cheryl also had.

1:03:14

Some. Paranormal experiences that see includes

1:03:16

in the book. So.

1:03:19

I'm gonna, I'm gonna quote are so I'm

1:03:21

just. I'm essentially reading Be You from. Some.

1:03:24

Cereal depends. She.

1:03:26

Says When I first began researching the

1:03:28

history of the Chelsea Hotel, I decided

1:03:31

to do what I could to research

1:03:33

the stories of the Chelsea's hauntings as

1:03:35

well. Since there were

1:03:37

so many of. The. I

1:03:39

did this by taking into the hotel with

1:03:42

a medium that I knew. So

1:03:44

that she could give me her take on would

1:03:46

go situation. We stayed

1:03:48

together in room Three Twenty five

1:03:51

for four nights are so. The.

1:03:54

Mediums confirms that the

1:03:56

building is extraordinarily well

1:03:58

populated, with. Hosts. She.

1:04:02

Said they feel the lobby.

1:04:04

Constantly trying to tell their stories to

1:04:06

the people sitting there. While

1:04:09

they they they linger in

1:04:11

the elevator. Riding. It

1:04:13

up and down. And she says

1:04:15

it nine or wu. Said. The

1:04:18

crowded in around our beds by

1:04:20

the dozens while we were sleeping.

1:04:23

Dressing. Clothes from different areas.

1:04:25

From. The nineteenth century on. So.

1:04:30

She says that phrase all I it

1:04:32

was. He said it was almost as

1:04:34

if they knew. That. She was

1:04:37

there to write a book to write

1:04:39

the story. and it's all of these

1:04:41

spirits. Wanted. To

1:04:43

advise. Cyril. On.

1:04:46

How to tell the story of Chelsea of Now.

1:04:51

But. See said most couldn't get

1:04:53

a word in edgewise because one

1:04:56

of the ghosts dating from the

1:04:58

nineteen sixties. Like. Figure that

1:05:00

from his clothing style in his speech.

1:05:03

Dominated. The crowd each night.

1:05:05

Pushing. To the front of the

1:05:08

others and taking over are talking

1:05:10

over them so that the medium

1:05:12

could understand only his voice. His

1:05:15

name was Larry. Larry

1:05:17

Assess that girl. Is

1:05:21

see says and he wanted me to

1:05:23

know that the point of the story

1:05:25

was not the art that made that

1:05:27

scale seats but rather the lies that

1:05:29

was live as. Long

1:05:32

as she says, this was a

1:05:34

direct quote from the medium. It's

1:05:37

not about the yard man. it's about

1:05:40

the life. You

1:05:42

know, I. Don't know

1:05:44

much about Larry but I already don't

1:05:47

like. I just a thought that was

1:05:49

five past it. Now

1:05:51

that we've was, you know we've got all

1:05:53

these stories about Larry and what he says

1:05:55

had been. Here's this medium, the gums, the

1:05:58

and and see here's the second store. The

1:06:00

area and you. Can.

1:06:02

You imagine. That. Year and

1:06:04

ghost you're trapped at the Chelsea and you

1:06:07

gotta deal with this jerk. All

1:06:10

the time a fight for

1:06:12

eternity. You. Gotta deal with Larry.

1:06:15

It's. Known about the are met Larry

1:06:17

If you aren't dead I'd kill your

1:06:19

any. So

1:06:22

difference goes on and says so.

1:06:24

I explored the entire building with

1:06:26

the medium at each for see

1:06:29

seem to have profound emotional experiences

1:06:31

on one for. A.

1:06:33

Chow Ghost Sister which there's another

1:06:36

story about you know people didn't

1:06:38

take than the since now on

1:06:40

another she saw an elegantly drifts

1:06:42

email ghost eternally arranging her hair

1:06:45

before and now non extinct mirror.

1:06:47

There's. Marry. On.

1:06:49

Another she says see had the

1:06:51

sense of a great him minutes.

1:06:54

That. Others have called the Chelsea's

1:06:56

Gray Man. In

1:06:59

the basement. See felt overwhelmed

1:07:01

by the remnants of a sense

1:07:04

of evil. Which.

1:07:06

Again goes back to what Larry.

1:07:09

Eyes been Quotas is saying

1:07:11

that there was something there.

1:07:13

Something they are that. That. Your.

1:07:18

Up A power Or a

1:07:20

presence that fueled. The.

1:07:22

The creativity but it may have also

1:07:25

fueled a lot of the tragedy is,

1:07:27

well, They have a. By

1:07:29

the end of our time they are. We were

1:07:31

exhausted. As though we had

1:07:33

spent months there instead of days. Riding.

1:07:36

Downtown to my apartment in a tab in

1:07:38

the bride afternoon like. We. Felt

1:07:40

as if we'd left one world

1:07:42

for another entirely different one. The.

1:07:45

Medium said she never wanted to go back

1:07:47

to that place. Which. Seems grabbed

1:07:49

as more haunted than any building

1:07:52

seat ever encountered. Except

1:07:54

for the New York Public Library Forty

1:07:56

Second Street. Oh wow.

1:07:59

And that's or next show. no. Gifts.

1:08:05

But. Just I mean just as

1:08:07

fascinating place me. and I

1:08:09

mean we've we've talked about.

1:08:12

Famous Go Celebrity go celebrities

1:08:14

that have ghost experiences but

1:08:16

nothing like this. May.

1:08:18

Nothing like this now in

1:08:21

the the visual image I

1:08:23

get of. When. See

1:08:25

said. That. The lobby

1:08:27

is filled. With. Ghosts.

1:08:30

And. That they crown or and your bed. You.

1:08:33

Know it, it. It

1:08:35

makes sense new with the history

1:08:37

that's been there is. So.

1:08:39

Many people stayed there in life and

1:08:42

then they stay there and death. That.

1:08:44

It would be crowded, liked and

1:08:46

but. You. Don't hear it

1:08:48

from. Other places

1:08:51

you don't hear medium say

1:08:53

it's wall to wall spirits

1:08:55

and right. Yeah.

1:08:57

But I'm never heard any. They have to

1:08:59

go searching for spirits are they have to.

1:09:02

You know one room will have. This.

1:09:05

One spirit and then five rooms

1:09:07

away got another spirit. or the

1:09:09

next four. But. This

1:09:11

is like you're walking through a sea of

1:09:13

them. Any A we

1:09:16

have friends that are mediums. And

1:09:18

you know, sometimes it's. It's. A

1:09:21

It's a voice. You know it's

1:09:23

I'm feeling. It's a present. Sometimes it's

1:09:25

just. Images.

1:09:28

You. Know see experienced. Full.

1:09:31

On I can see these people

1:09:33

act in tell you what they're

1:09:35

wearing. I can hear them talk

1:09:37

and. You know, I

1:09:40

said I'm a me. It's

1:09:42

almost two point where you're

1:09:45

like that. That's just unbelievable.

1:09:47

But. The thing about

1:09:49

it is there so many

1:09:51

people that have had similar

1:09:53

experiences. right? That they

1:09:56

can't all be made up. They

1:09:58

do slightest say it. And.

1:10:00

On Larry's gonna be very ever been is

1:10:03

here in the science it be worth it

1:10:05

does to go meet Larry gas know in

1:10:07

the eastern and leave and any for. Yeah.

1:10:10

Yeah, assess, assess, assess the the yeah. I was

1:10:12

stuck with him and that would be a whole

1:10:14

nother thing. But. If. You could just

1:10:16

go there and catch him saying that like use

1:10:18

and let live in peace. Or.

1:10:22

One of those ghosts boxes or something. I

1:10:24

wonder how items their own and ghosts box?

1:10:26

Oh yeah, if I had probably just as

1:10:28

annoying. Yeah. Probably. But

1:10:32

damn. But. What are you guys think?

1:10:35

You. Know the you know has

1:10:37

the as the Misty and.

1:10:40

Fascination. With Chelsea Hotel been

1:10:42

what's fuel all these go stories.

1:10:45

Or. Is there more

1:10:47

to it? Do ours is. This

1:10:49

place is loaded with the spirits

1:10:51

of. You. Know. Artists

1:10:53

that were. Mino. Tortured. you

1:10:56

know, emotionally. Physically, you know

1:10:58

they were fought their own

1:11:00

demons right there inside the

1:11:02

hotel with. You. Know people

1:11:04

from similar walks of life. You.

1:11:08

Know maybe maybe there is some

1:11:10

kind of. Some kind

1:11:13

of presence there that that

1:11:15

drew that cultures there that

1:11:18

then few the creativity. You

1:11:21

know that helped. Milos.

1:11:23

Forman right? One. Flew over

1:11:26

the cuckoo's nest in our help.

1:11:28

The. Ah Jack care whacked?

1:11:30

you know lay out the the

1:11:32

stream of consciousness for that was

1:11:34

on the road you know? What?

1:11:37

Do you think? and we were know we've got

1:11:39

listeners in New York. I. You probably

1:11:41

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1:11:43

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