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Generation I've had a Brannigan. I've been

1:27

Harrison, you're at Coachella over the weekend.

1:29

I don't want to date the record

1:31

but I was very surprised to learn

1:34

that you have gotten outta town over

1:36

the weekend and then I checked my

1:38

calendar I was like isn't that good

1:40

cello what's can do and out there.

1:44

I was so close to Coach Hello

1:46

that I could see lights from Coach

1:48

Ella and here Coach Ella from where

1:50

I was. Wow. So like

1:52

on the back patio you are

1:55

listening to Blur or whatever I

1:57

could hear. I could hear, no

1:59

doubt. Like Rak in the stage

2:01

from where I was. but lab

2:03

actually go. We

2:06

have. Some. Friends from

2:08

a baby class that we took.

2:10

One of their fathers is a

2:12

retiree who has retired to one

2:14

of those houses that's like on

2:17

a golf course I like he

2:19

into and or ah that's the

2:21

dream except for the save months

2:23

in the middle of the summer

2:25

when it is a hellish nightmare

2:28

ssssss oh yeah oh I was

2:30

actually like man like. I.

2:32

Got a really got to introduce Adam

2:34

my friend because I feel like proximity

2:36

to Coach Allah and proximity to golf

2:39

would be things that are much more

2:41

up your alley. Center up mind. I.

2:43

Would never. Go. To Cut

2:46

Yellow Just to be clear further that

2:48

you and I have a friends who

2:50

I think does fairly often and does.

2:53

Does. Music Festival. Sit down

2:55

and God I a Tennessee

2:57

like age data that especially

2:59

the camping aspect of it.

3:01

Later, my birdie. Could. Not

3:03

deal with. With. That the

3:05

trauma of that and I'm sure

3:08

enough waking up as it is.

3:10

I'll always associated Kojo with camping,

3:12

but I I was in a

3:14

gated golf course community this weekend

3:16

and seeing a lot of people

3:18

who are clearly there. For.

3:21

The festivities. so I don't think it

3:23

has to be the the hardscrabble experience

3:25

that a lot of people make it.

3:28

Did. You scold every one you saw

3:30

wearing a Native American had dresser digital

3:32

ssssss let them be free to to

3:35

do with their do And first for

3:37

like you're just on the poor it's

3:39

just. Just. Mean Mug Adams

3:41

dance. I was gonna what I spent

3:44

the weekend doing just I set out

3:46

on the ports and I I actually

3:48

wore out the muscles that said tilt

3:50

your finger from side to side. This

3:52

sounds like a very restorative trip for

3:55

you though. I see. As

3:57

a senior year Power Me. Isn't

4:00

it fills the right back up again

4:02

that the as a full of apple's

4:04

whole apple's and noses who's been it

4:07

was the. You know, get

4:09

the car, get the toddlers in the

4:11

pool weekend, or there were a few

4:13

families from our baby class out there.

4:15

Oh wow. So house full of babies

4:17

and baby parents? Yeah, we had dad

4:20

just like a row of those clamp

4:22

on high chairs on the edge of

4:24

the counter and were just holy city.

4:26

Throw in macaroni at the kids and

4:28

cut off strawberries and. Have.

4:31

A great time. Can you turn

4:33

that into a drinking game? Is that

4:35

like guy has assesses? I like beer

4:38

pong as you can if you can

4:40

hit the road in the mouse with

4:42

a quarter raspberry ssssss the other parents

4:45

have to drink. Success! So far off

4:47

from away the festivities proceeded. I was

4:49

turned on to a new. Prophylactic.

4:53

Drinking Intervention this weekend that

4:55

I need to. I. Need

4:57

to tell you about see it's maybe was

4:59

called Z Biotic or something like that and

5:01

it's like. It's. A look is a

5:03

shot. It's like a little glass vial

5:05

that you knock back and it's full

5:07

of. The. Waves described to me

5:09

some probiotic that makes your gut extra

5:12

good at processing the thing that makes

5:14

you sick or it's sit the next

5:16

day after drinking. And. It

5:18

seemed to work pretty well because I I'd

5:20

run out of roads and didn't realize it

5:23

until it was too late to bring up

5:25

my supply before the trip. And.

5:27

Or of by made it through Scot

5:29

free. Despite.

5:32

Three. Of us dude killing

5:35

a liter bottle of Cosco tequila.

5:37

Of. The my it's you got away

5:39

with one path air so or says

5:41

that it was a really nice we

5:44

get it was. Great

5:46

to get away at. It's like I

5:48

was feel like a little bit weird

5:50

about. Of accepting a nice trip

5:52

out of town like this because there's

5:54

a like i don't have a golf

5:56

course house does offer any one and

5:59

returned like. Well that was

6:01

great. When it's ski season will go up

6:03

and stay in my house that's on a

6:05

slope. you know, Like a kid I kept

6:07

reciprocate so I got a. Under.

6:10

Know I get is like send some flowers or

6:12

something. I. Have observed this in

6:14

my good friend Benjamin Are Harrison. It

6:17

is a kindness to the giver

6:19

to accept the guest. In

6:22

good cheer and with great thanks And

6:24

you are someone who appreciates the nice

6:26

things that are done to them. I

6:28

would hope that. You. Can move

6:30

through life. More. Often

6:32

not feeling like you owe me things

6:34

like that, You know to steal a

6:37

tremendous guilt no matter where I go.

6:39

adam him as. The.

6:41

Only way I can really assuage

6:43

it is by his by saying

6:45

ah to people that are wearing

6:47

culturally appropriate of concert where see

6:49

every time you do that and

6:51

other apple goes in your power

6:53

better than that it's that new

6:55

Apple visual display situation as it

6:57

is This added apples to your

6:59

power Barca of a bag of

7:01

basically ruined super say on this

7:03

week Mm for can already. A

7:07

slump like and ready to get

7:09

into episode five this final season.

7:11

A Star Trek Discovery been would

7:13

you say we get into that

7:15

was? hit it. It's season five

7:17

episode five. Mirrors. You

7:19

know, the group stage facing us? his arrest?

7:26

And this and begins with a book Slugs

7:28

in a moment that made me wonder. s.

7:30

Should. I be keeping a journal. Well.

7:33

My life not be important as I have

7:35

not logged it. Is this

7:37

not a log vulgar do in here?

7:39

This is our lives As a log.

7:41

We just said the captain's log about

7:43

going to Coachella. Not going to go

7:45

Chela. I don't need to write any

7:47

of this down a citizens going into

7:49

the audio record. Yeah yeah. being saved

7:51

for time and I'm and and it's

7:53

occasionally. Attached to satellites. Going

7:56

into deep space were earning good

7:58

satellites. Going into deep space. With

8:00

Gold records featuring naked people

8:02

on the outside hey you

8:04

know it would be cool

8:06

A Gold Records of naked

8:08

Us going out that the

8:11

Cosmos as a very disappointing

8:13

schematic have to unfortunate male

8:15

body shows. That

8:17

the Cosmos came calling and we send

8:19

nudes. Book

8:21

stuck in about his mentor air.

8:24

A life of choices that have led him

8:26

to this moment. Kind. Of the

8:28

the ramblings of an about to diapers

8:30

and if he asked me a did

8:33

really feel like maybe this was gonna

8:35

be books last mission based on the

8:37

tone of this but it also felt

8:39

a little Star Wars he like. He.

8:42

Is. Speculating. About.

8:45

If. Mall is indeed.

8:49

Cleveland. Booker's daughter. Maybe there's some good

8:51

in her that he can find a way

8:53

to appeal to? And

8:55

he might have an opportunity to their

8:57

so he's looking forward to that. He's

9:00

gonna wake up and. Choose. Mentorship

9:02

himself ssssss as the

9:04

idea here and the

9:06

suggestion here is not

9:08

unlike anything we thought.

9:11

In. In the episodes previous, he

9:13

wants to save her. In

9:16

addition to or instead of apprehending

9:18

her right. So. We

9:20

cut to the bridge which is

9:23

really just thronged with people. Everybody

9:25

has their and. Tilly. And

9:27

stam it's are. Walking.

9:30

To difference to make a big presentation

9:32

assertive. I guess them aren't doing this

9:34

in the conference room because they're just

9:37

like so many Harkin people that need

9:39

to be read in on the plan

9:41

here. Pena seems that way is the

9:43

bridge, not the place where you do

9:46

the presentations and the birthday and retirement

9:48

gatherings of for this is a kind

9:50

of seems like the prime spot there,

9:53

especially kids. It's sort of that stepped

9:55

in a way that creates a natural

9:57

amphitheater effect, right? Yeah, it's like. It's.

10:00

Like when they figured out putting stadium seatings

10:02

and in movie theaters and in the late

10:04

nineties is like oh why didn't they do

10:06

this all time We have. So.

10:09

Many examples of like.

10:11

The advancements in so many

10:13

areas like theater seating. I

10:17

still do not understand originalism in any

10:19

way shape or for assess assess as

10:21

a look at what we've done with

10:23

the movie theaters. But you wanna go

10:26

back to whatever it was before If

10:28

you're telling me the founding fathers with

10:30

those crazy fuckin wigs piled up on

10:32

top of their heads. Couldn't.

10:34

Come up with. Steered.

10:37

Seating to look over the top of those

10:39

ways when they were in a place. And

10:41

those are the people you want to listen

10:43

to on always run things. How. Smart

10:45

they be. I. Like my intellectuals

10:48

with teeth not made out of

10:50

the seats with their and ah

10:52

a a a a a. A. Assist

10:55

phases. So.

10:58

Of they've gone back to

11:00

the last known coordinates were

11:02

more luck were and they

11:04

beeps and buttons and kind

11:06

of reconfigure. The. Way the

11:08

view screen as representing what space looks

11:11

like in front of them. And

11:13

this is a meme. Imagine.

11:16

It being revealed that you were this close to

11:18

have been whole and you didn't even know it.

11:20

This. But whole is winking like

11:22

no other space about whole we've

11:24

ever seen in their tracks. like.

11:28

At this point I feel like we're

11:30

being made fun of with assists. The

11:32

by the effects team and the So

11:34

Yeah they're like bedded. Adam will voted

11:37

in lose their minds with see this

11:39

one. Why does it look more but

11:41

whole than ever? So this is a

11:44

dimensional but whole and it leads to

11:46

a different dimension. And.

11:49

They. Can't take the whole ship in there has

11:52

to whom is too small it hasn't gotten

11:54

itself ready. Now. And so

11:56

they're gonna take a shuttle and it's

11:58

going to be book and. I'm

12:00

and no security team because

12:02

she doesn't want. To.

12:04

Make more like think that they're mad at

12:07

them. That sets rain or

12:09

is like hey, can I have a

12:11

word and and they're ready room Reynders

12:13

like I may or may not have

12:15

a real problem with you being in

12:17

the A story again. I.

12:19

Should be in the a story today,

12:21

right? And. Burnham's like. I

12:24

understand that. However, tactically, I'm

12:27

the best ssssss I've I've

12:29

thought of everything already. If

12:31

your argument is is tactics

12:33

in any way. I.

12:36

Am the best one for the job. And.

12:38

He's like a right well put

12:40

like she understands from and then

12:42

can I like does the the

12:45

says to the side of his

12:47

shoulder attaboy vote of confidence like

12:49

you've got his you got this

12:51

Rainer Maynard grabs his shoulder like

12:53

ah assists and then walks their

12:55

of the bridge see his face

12:57

ssssss. Starfleet

13:00

Hdr The Cabbage and he'd

13:02

read. As that doesn't

13:04

happen, he has his orders. His

13:06

orders are to. Command. The

13:08

disco while they go off in the. Uss.

13:13

Able. Nitrate certain

13:15

ssssss. Oh,

13:18

and crucially, she also cites

13:20

some quotes from his. His.

13:23

People's mythology to have.

13:26

Your. She's been doing a little

13:28

bit of reading about. Seems like

13:30

I'm getting ready to go to

13:32

like a summer festival and us

13:35

I wanted to my do my

13:37

cultural appropriation. Well brainers like that

13:39

is for my culture. Sassoon do

13:41

not get to say that ssssss

13:44

hair So I think we were

13:46

like speculating at some point that

13:48

he was human. Somebody actually said

13:50

that the press about this show

13:53

step in as not and is

13:55

not so. We had misled

13:57

there. For.

13:59

You. So but I think Is Species

14:01

appeared and like an episode of Deep

14:04

Space Nine in the Shadow Book and

14:06

Burnham. Head

14:08

toward the space bird whole. and

14:10

there. And dead A just to

14:12

check any are still pro book burnham. Absolutely.

14:15

Every time deaths I get a

14:17

glow in my eyes. Sacred about

14:19

assess, Assess Assess assess. It's important

14:21

for a captain to know what's

14:24

the other people on the mission

14:26

will do you once they are

14:28

confronted with. The. Mission

14:30

Itself In this case, where do you do

14:32

when we find. Lock. And

14:34

mall. And. Book says

14:36

there. Is. Going to try to

14:39

reach her and. Michael. Burnham's

14:41

like, well that's cool. I mean if you're

14:43

read, seeing her and putting handcuffs on her

14:45

at the same time, that will be great.

14:50

He doesn't really have a plan.

14:52

his just like is counting on

14:54

being able to connect. Couldn't

14:56

he connect using. I

15:00

just touched my temple and made my forehead

15:02

glow like like he could do that. raise

15:04

a family. Connections: It was really cool the

15:06

way your forehead glowed when you did that.

15:08

I know, how did you do

15:11

that? Credible? well as taken a

15:13

lot of muscle ssssss. So via

15:15

evidently census those Another fun thing

15:17

about Coach Hello Weekend was I

15:19

was looking through the fridge for

15:21

a snack and I found a

15:23

chocolate bar and of the Gui

15:25

chocolate bar and then I read

15:27

the packaging and I was like

15:29

oh. Psychedelic. Just could

15:31

offer assess assess. Wow what a

15:33

fun air B B hosts that

15:36

is successful as A thats really

15:38

knowing your market. Yeah they have

15:40

to time the entry into this

15:42

space pothole like the cistern room

15:44

and the rock. Remember that seems

15:47

I do. This thing is opening

15:49

and closing at an interval. ends

15:51

in that interval to settle his

15:53

got to go through without being

15:55

smashed. Pissed. Off if you will.

15:58

And. Death is Not a. Green whole

16:00

at all. Once they're inside, there's debris

16:03

everywhere the but in there. I hope

16:05

it's a mess inside their heads. The

16:07

said that it's full of like exotic

16:10

matter and there's debris from Mom lox

16:12

shifts which. The. Sad to make as

16:14

I like that ship I wanted to see more of it.

16:19

But. At. The. As and

16:21

are also losing a communications

16:23

with the disco as they.

16:25

Had. Deeper inside. One

16:31

very surprising. Object.

16:33

They signed. In. Said the

16:35

space but whole is. And. Iss

16:38

Ship. And into slowly

16:40

revealed to be the Iss Enterprise.

16:44

And. After the theme, we learn that

16:46

this Iss Enterprise is pretty thrash

16:48

looking and it's the I. It's

16:50

the Pike era. Iss.

16:53

Enterprise. The that like the close up on

16:55

the name was so close I was like

16:57

is there a chance this is a different

16:59

era. Iss. Enterprise

17:01

I. Like. A Iss

17:04

Enterprise see or something would have

17:06

been amazing of the theft of

17:08

in early good I yeah I

17:10

am. I.

17:12

Also just went to a.

17:15

Oh. Final Season Like are we gonna

17:17

get though They guy that's playing

17:19

Kirk on the news show and

17:21

out like are we gonna get

17:23

a cut of the Mirror Universe

17:26

version of the T O Ass?

17:28

but with the people that are

17:30

playing them on strange new worlds.

17:32

Some. Similar cross pollination.

17:35

That would have been fun right?

17:37

League of the ads the same

17:39

sets them but I but now

17:41

that so what happened So they

17:43

dock and we kept back to

17:45

the disco were till he can

17:47

have barges in Sussex bay and.

17:50

Ah has said colbert move his

17:52

examination to a different bio bed

17:54

because she needs to reroute Dps

17:56

so they can friend get. Com.

18:00

Rak, Where's the shuttle?

18:03

And despite the fact that she has just.

18:07

You know, up in her head or

18:09

obviously super stressed out about her engineering

18:11

task notices that he has said Culver

18:13

and. says. Like a fair if

18:15

you'd need to be in one of those scenes

18:17

towards the end of every episode of Discovery. Yo.

18:23

Hit me up. I

18:26

mean I will say this like the actors

18:29

on the show or so seasoned at saying

18:31

they're fine linen, they're not really thyme. Their.

18:34

Dad, this is a great moment!

18:36

Speaking of. Fine but

18:38

not actually find a Dera. Ah,

18:42

feeling a ton of time but gilts stam

18:44

it's tries to talk to him out of

18:46

that but there. Were.

18:48

Just where do we just kind of fly past

18:50

that? and then. Rainer. Marches.

18:53

In and wants to know. You.

18:55

Know what they got in terms

18:57

of reestablishing contact with their away

18:59

team and day. He does not

19:01

want them to pepper their explanations

19:03

with techno babble. It makes

19:06

some sense if your goal

19:08

is fast. And if the

19:10

situation is life threatening. Which.

19:13

It appears to be. So

19:15

like they're embellishments. About.

19:18

Their list of possible ideas

19:20

is just unwelcome to Rayner.

19:22

he's like just give me

19:24

the less worthy version of

19:26

what these ideas are, please

19:28

because the biggest. Also like

19:31

this whole you are not

19:33

alone energy is not helping

19:35

us possibly save are kept

19:37

in our rights. You know

19:39

who is allowed. Michael Burnham

19:41

and Book ssssss I'm fro

19:43

both Bernabeu assists and I

19:45

would like to save them

19:47

and. Stammers says like a double take

19:49

those oh right. I

19:52

thought you said something else and

19:54

assess. The turn

19:56

about is not fair play with the

19:58

touchy feely hangs and that. Kind

20:00

of takes them in the pants

20:02

to to get something working, either

20:04

to spread the whole wider or

20:06

or whatever it's gonna take. And.

20:09

Meanwhile we cat over to

20:11

the iss entrepreneurs who's places

20:13

of tomb the haven't found

20:15

mom like yet. But book

20:17

and Bear and burnham go

20:19

onto the bridge and. They're.

20:22

assuming. That

20:24

the clue must be hidden here as well.

20:27

As this is where mom like when. Although.

20:30

He could. I get it. This.

20:32

Is one of those like I mean like

20:34

I guess but also like my like had

20:36

to get off their ship because it broke

20:38

in half. So yeah, a lot about this

20:40

scene is a little unclear and a lot

20:42

about the scene moves very quickly. I.

20:44

Guess the presumption is that's the

20:47

only pieces of debris inside or

20:49

the broken in half ship and

20:51

the Iss Enterprise birds? And.

20:54

I don't know, like it seems like

20:56

the clue could be somewhere else and

20:58

a different ship or a different piece

21:00

of debris or something. This is so

21:02

they said in the beginning Something about

21:04

this whole this blinky bud whole being.

21:07

A thing that has existed because of

21:09

the burn. So. This pocket dimension

21:11

seems like it wasn't find a ball

21:14

at the time Eight hundred years ago

21:16

when the. Team. Of scientists

21:18

was hiding their clearers. right?

21:20

So I. Like. How really

21:23

supposed to find this week was? Are.

21:25

We talking about here. You need to

21:27

stop asking those questions. They're just gonna

21:29

make you crazy. The talk a little.

21:32

Bit. About about Spock

21:34

Burnham's brother. And.

21:37

Speculate about whether he was cool in the

21:39

mirror universe version or not. He must have

21:41

been an absolute bad ass like we've we've

21:44

seen him and in T O s like

21:46

we know he was. But. This

21:48

new track version of. What? He

21:50

might have been like. Really? Makes

21:52

you think he's not there and

21:54

so is anyone else. It appears

21:56

as though the crew has abandoned

21:58

ship and that's. The weird because

22:01

for a tear in crew. To.

22:03

Abandon their ship. Is very

22:05

unusual that is not something with their known

22:07

for so they get. Internal. Sensors

22:10

up in their three life signs

22:12

in Six Bay and To. Appear.

22:16

On the bridge so. They're. Getting

22:18

ready to go down there. And

22:21

they learn a little bit more

22:23

about likes the of abandoning. Ship.

22:26

Saying that they're. This. Crew

22:28

was actually like Sk paying. The.

22:30

Empire and they were helped by

22:32

a tell be a slave turned

22:34

rebel leader. Who. And presumably

22:37

they once he helped them get

22:39

off the ship say devoured his

22:41

threat ganglia. Cause. Pneumonia and and

22:43

them them so tasty! So. The

22:45

idea is that the this

22:47

crew was may be good

22:49

or they turned good rate

22:51

and inspired by Rebels Saru,

22:53

Rebel Cymru. Not. Adsense through

22:56

it's in this universe. They ran

22:58

from dead, tear an empire like

23:00

a fucking Clydesdale with the goal

23:02

of entering the prime universe like

23:04

this is what they wanted. They

23:06

wanted to get to the prime

23:09

universe and and potentially like start

23:11

a new life or whatever. This

23:14

is the goal and are among all of

23:16

that fast they find strewn about. Bunch.

23:19

Of blankets lot of personal effects, There's

23:21

a locket with the picture of a

23:23

Giorgio and. Michael. Burn A Minute.

23:25

There's also. A Gordon's

23:28

Plushy. Because. In the

23:30

Mirror universe. The. Gourds. You like

23:32

little bunnies. Who? Sweet little bunny guys.

23:34

They're nice, the kind that you'd make

23:36

a stealthy yeah doesn't give it a

23:38

little kid. I wonder what the gardens

23:41

are up to? And the Thirty Second

23:43

century? Who the hell knows? That

23:45

a lot about that. Said

23:47

is. So.

23:50

Burnham. Put something off of

23:53

her com badge into this

23:55

Lochhead and that pockets it.

23:58

To. Pockets: the locket, And that

24:00

they go down to Six Bay finally

24:03

and they open the door of his

24:05

just Solar malls and lox. This.

24:07

Is something we've talked about a bunch on

24:09

our other had Star Trek podcast The Greatest

24:12

Generation that like. If. If

24:14

you have a security situation where somebody is

24:16

in a room in, you want to get

24:18

them. You just beam so many security people

24:20

into the room that nobody can move. math.

24:22

That's almost like what they got going on

24:24

here. With. Regards to malls

24:27

and lox and Six Bay. It

24:30

reminds me of what's written

24:32

on so many strip club

24:34

marquees throughout the country which

24:36

is a hundreds of mall

24:38

and lots and to real

24:40

ones ssssss affects that they

24:42

realize that the. Six. Bay

24:44

is. A. Holographic emitter

24:46

is. The. Thing that

24:49

is making these images. So Michael Burnham

24:51

and Book. Do. Shoulder rolls into

24:53

the room under fire and take

24:55

out the a metre. To

24:58

reveal actual. Mom. Lot

25:00

like this where they like get this the

25:03

standoff with are like a like we were

25:05

in even really trying to shoot you we

25:07

were just shooting that emitter and they're like

25:09

yeah either that or you suck at today

25:12

as early light from behind a. Medical.

25:16

Case. Book. Step see

25:18

details. Michael. Burn to cover

25:20

him. And and he the sort of

25:22

walks out. With. His hands in

25:25

his pockets to negotiate. And.

25:27

To disclose his relationship

25:29

to mouse father as

25:31

quickly as possible. This.

25:34

Is. Not an impressive fact.

25:36

Assist assist in a her

25:39

at all because mom cause

25:41

Cleveland Booker garbage Anna By

25:44

that she means Cleveland Booker's

25:46

mentor. He was a

25:48

bad dad and see doesn't.

25:51

Feel. Like that and Gracias him to

25:53

to her at all and as he

25:55

has the clue already so she's ready

25:58

to get out of here and. When

26:00

Michael Burnham steps and she's like aha,

26:02

you think you have the clue. But

26:04

in fact I have the clue because

26:06

everything is a trick. And.

26:08

Day And you know that because of that. Romulus.

26:11

Poem that you never found The said

26:13

stance of. I. Love the

26:15

idea of putting some some. Some.

26:18

Like prime Universe stuff in it

26:21

to make it or show on

26:23

a try. Quarter as prime Universe

26:25

in origin. Ah, And

26:28

I loved that Burnham like

26:30

anticipated the need to potentially

26:32

have a a counter magazines

26:34

and a moment's it's fittest.

26:36

Yeah, things dissolves into an

26:38

argument in this scene. And.

26:42

During. This argument it is revealed

26:44

that lock his brain. And. The

26:46

subject as a breen blood bounty.

26:48

This is. A. Pretty big deal

26:50

because once you get one of these, our new.

26:53

There's no way to stop it.

26:55

it's for. Life. Because

26:58

it's such a big deal, they were like

27:00

will have. We can just get the progenitor

27:02

device that is also a big deal so

27:04

maybe we can do in exchange of those

27:06

two things. Get lock outta trouble. And.

27:09

Dad and that will be that

27:11

I was so excited to finally

27:13

get to see Would A brains

27:15

looks like death is an Air

27:17

he says as we get a

27:19

flashback here. And

27:24

we get lots of flashbacks to help tell

27:26

the backstory of mall and Lock. The

27:28

first one starts here. And we know

27:31

it's a while ago because Long Hair mall. Is.

27:33

In this scene at Sound of Bream Ship and

27:36

she's doing some trading. With. The brain

27:38

and see A super let B

27:40

C is not respect the Breen

27:42

now see comes with ten out

27:45

of ten attitude. And.

27:47

A breed is brought over

27:50

to inspects the day lithium

27:52

that she's dropping off because

27:54

she is suspected of stepping

27:57

on her day lithium with

27:59

baby. Exit ever something that she

28:01

is. Heard a rumor about Who this.

28:04

This. Breen might be because she's

28:06

heard that the brain Frameworks

28:08

nephew. Has. Recently been demoted

28:10

to doing inspections in the cargo

28:12

area on this huge green ship.

28:15

And see is like how many

28:17

can there be ssssss as a

28:19

since he puts our her suspicion

28:21

eggs into this one brain basket

28:23

to add that see clocks in

28:25

the hands reach up and take

28:28

off the helmet. And it's

28:30

current. There

28:33

are more taxes on

28:35

this debt that you

28:38

might seem. I do

28:40

not remember precisely how

28:43

many there was. Nothing

28:45

that is upward Mobility.

28:50

In my first job after

28:52

being there fatima. Sadly,

28:58

I made a last Hero

29:00

movies since oppose Burn Future

29:02

it's and I'm still doing

29:04

the same mundane craft. Store.

29:10

A couple of reasons. Mall.

29:14

Is. Working to manipulate. Lock

29:16

here. On. The one hand. She.

29:19

Wants to be free to do her

29:21

dirty business there. Ah,

29:23

And a friendly brain. Might.

29:26

Allow. Those. Business transactions

29:28

to flow more freely. On.

29:30

The other hand, There. Seems to

29:32

be a romantic spark here. And.

29:35

Maybe one is helping the other out.

29:37

May. Be the other one is helping

29:40

the one out. It's kind of a

29:42

a mishmash of feelings and manipulations here.

29:44

at this point that he had to

29:46

say mall has a type I think

29:49

humiliated nap okay be is it? Oh

29:51

yeah. So. Life is just

29:53

catnip to her hair. she can't

29:56

resist. So we cut back to

29:58

the present and. Six.

30:01

Bay erupts in fire again

30:03

and. Some. Kind

30:05

of like automatic shield goes

30:07

up trapping lock and burnham

30:10

into six bay and mall.

30:12

Ads and book outside of Six Bay.

30:15

How badly did you want these to

30:17

be? agonize? Years that they were stuck

30:19

in the so didn't wear the I

30:22

denies The thought crossed my mind that

30:24

the some agony should have been happening

30:26

somewhere. A sip Yes, I like it.

30:28

Amazing that the crew of the Iss

30:31

Enterprise abandoned ship and nobody was last

30:33

in. Agonizes. you know. You.

30:35

Gotta believe not everyone was gonna go

30:38

along with this plan. As

30:40

a agree the as it's this

30:42

it i'm at least family guy

30:45

corpse in an agonizing at some

30:47

point but and he was book

30:49

and mall team up to go

30:51

back to the bridge to figure

30:53

out a way to cut power

30:55

to these shields. and yet another

30:57

flashbacks. To

31:00

a visits that mall page

31:02

to this breed ship. And.

31:06

See. Is like flirting with him.

31:08

While he's kind of trend of mark

31:10

as being a tough guy and. Spirit.

31:13

Is like was like Big Ten, a open

31:15

work area where people are marching around with

31:17

guns and stuff. So anytime he's like within

31:19

earshot, he's like, you know, shoveling, you're up

31:21

against the crate and ruff in Europe. But

31:23

then he's kind of party in her hands

31:26

when it's just the two of them. Yeah.

31:28

It's very role play What's going

31:30

on here? And there

31:32

there's a moment in the scene where she wants

31:34

to see his real face. And

31:37

he does not want to just take

31:39

it out in public know at that's

31:41

actually a little over the line his

31:43

mind. But finally, He's. Coerced

31:45

into doing this, he takes off his helmet.

31:48

And. He. Smirks

31:51

as. Just

31:54

like Optimus Prime, but instead of looking

31:56

like a truck, he kinda looks like

31:59

a lizard. Yeah, He'd get that

32:01

see through head that we saw in

32:03

the first episode. Yeah. And

32:05

go into this a little bit

32:07

more like throughout the episode, but

32:09

I have so many questions in

32:11

the present on the bridge book.

32:14

Is. Target a mall as they. Try.

32:16

To hack the mainframe. And

32:18

is like you know, Your. Dad may

32:21

have abandoned you but I knew

32:23

him after that and he was

32:25

really sad about it and she's

32:27

like not helping, not helping t

32:29

a think you take off a

32:31

life of crime and excitement. And

32:34

Sex with The Breen. If

32:37

you're ready to talk about your

32:39

dad again, ssssss My mind's made

32:41

up about my bad that I'm

32:43

doing crime and it feels great

32:46

as. A. Bad

32:49

strategy book has this others the story

32:51

about a planet in the G Quad

32:53

that see and her mom we're supposed

32:55

to get taken to buy her dad.

32:58

He didn't. Keep the promise And so

33:00

mom had to get a job

33:02

as a minor. And. She

33:04

died when mall was very young

33:07

so. Totally understandably mall

33:09

just as an axe to grind

33:11

about the whole situation. Up to

33:13

this point we've only seen Rage

33:16

Out is. Out. Of Mall

33:18

and the actor who plays her. but

33:20

I really. Loved. This

33:22

scene for her because she hangs. tear

33:24

She let's tear drop. Eve Harlow got

33:27

all the gears that we admire and

33:29

in actors on Star Trek Yes Does

33:31

a great. And. That smokey

33:33

eye does not run when should refer

33:35

to. Now. Neither.

33:38

Do Bolland Lock assist

33:40

assist assist assist these

33:42

colors this smokey eye.

33:44

These criminals don't run.

33:51

By six. When

33:56

you listen to podcasts really just comes

33:58

down to others. You like the

34:01

sound of everyone's voices. My voice is

34:03

one of the sounds. Use your on

34:05

the podcast Doctor Game Show and this

34:07

is the voice of cohost and fearless

34:10

leader Joe Firestone. This is a

34:12

Kessler. We play games may by

34:14

whiskers and we play them with colors

34:16

over zoom. We never spoken to airline

34:18

so that is basically the kind of

34:21

sets a shell. pretty chill. So

34:23

take it or leave of Beaucoup. And

34:25

here's was. Some of the listeners have

34:27

to say it's. Funny, wholesome and it

34:29

never fails to make me smile. I

34:31

just started listening and I'm already Benjamin

34:34

Adam latter part in ages. I wish

34:36

I discovered it sooner. You can find

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34:42

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34:44

you cry. They can. Even make you saying

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35:03

We got you covered. Nord.

35:26

Back. In sixth grade. Burnham.

35:29

Is trying to. Trying.

35:31

To persuade lock on the idea

35:33

of of them coming in and

35:35

being taken into custody by the

35:37

Federation, he is like much more

35:40

malleable to this kind of proposals

35:42

than mall would be. And

35:45

what to say is like work. You guys did

35:47

some bad stuff and we can. Talk.

35:49

About y de reduced sentence if

35:51

it helps the federation. Get.

35:54

Their hands on the progenitor taxes the

35:56

Breen don't. And he's like,

35:58

oh, like, what if we get lucky. Together

36:00

and like I conjure goal like

36:02

a perpetual conjugal visit type situation.

36:04

She's like a vision. Greater things

36:07

have happened. Maybe there's like a

36:09

co dependency prison go to assess

36:11

assess says that are things. That.

36:14

Michael Burnham's like, well, you know, having

36:16

just recently gotten out of a pretty

36:18

intense relationship, I could tell you co

36:20

dependency is it's own prison in a

36:22

lot of stuff. Back.

36:25

Up on the bridge a book

36:27

tells mall said. He knows what

36:29

love is. Says

36:31

you want him to shower, Assess Assess.

36:35

He had it with Michael burnham. And.

36:38

He also knows what it's like. they have a bad

36:41

dad. It's. Like he's like hacking

36:43

the mainframe on one keyboard and hacking

36:45

her heart on the other keyboard. Can

36:47

you guess which one? Drops.

36:49

It security first. Small.

36:53

Isn't trying to hear this. She

36:55

wants to get lock out for behind

36:57

that shield pronto. Heard that reminds her

37:00

of a different time like this virus

37:02

deal. With

37:07

her. On that Breen ship.

37:10

They'd. Like put up a cloaking field in

37:12

the cargo bay so that they could suck

37:14

face together in front of everybody and nobody

37:16

would notice. It's. Like the

37:18

the poor and van with

37:21

the with the one way

37:23

windows says ssssss. Why

37:27

is there a browsers logo and

37:29

in bottom right hand corner of

37:31

all of the seems that happened

37:33

behind this weird shield Breen bus.com

37:35

What does that mean. She's

37:39

got some news see is going to

37:41

take a new job. A job that

37:43

works in Emerald same territory. And

37:46

that means this thing is going have to

37:48

pivot to a long distance arrangement. And

37:52

he asks. A question as

37:54

I would have asked. and this moment you

37:56

need some slack. Where the money go? And.

38:00

Or answers. Did not

38:02

make sense to me. is the colony

38:04

place where act just like us on.

38:07

Them. And I

38:09

was only. When

38:12

I say I sort of understood it

38:14

is she wants to pay for a

38:16

dreamy life of peace and leisure down

38:18

the road. Is that it? Yeah, Like

38:20

she just wants to earn hundred and

38:22

then retire Yes is fixated on that

38:25

Gamma Quadrant planet that was Promised Star

38:27

and her mom by. Oh

38:29

gee, Cleveland Booker whose and a

38:31

teller? You know she

38:33

heard that those said algae in the

38:36

water that flows when you swim in

38:38

it. Just

38:40

wants to get out of town to

38:42

do this one less jobs just then

38:45

add a at a most crucial time.

38:48

Lox. Uncle Lox in with

38:50

a. Little. As

38:52

as a phalanx of of shock troops

38:54

yeah, near him. he knows something's off

38:57

about this van that sparked in the

38:59

shuttle bay. Like you're quite right. I

39:01

can you see through the windows and.

39:04

Yeah. In flawless breed, he's like.

39:07

This. Farm for Rapper Rhodes

39:09

Scholar Marker. Oh

39:13

is piss this isn't gonna

39:15

be good. We cut back

39:17

to. The. Present

39:19

where. She. Gets impatient

39:21

with books, computer hacking

39:23

attempts and see triggers

39:26

a power surge. That.

39:28

She says is gonna like cut power

39:30

to the to the shields and book

39:32

is like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

39:35

like that could be have other knock

39:37

on effects on this ancient as star

39:39

said like don't care gotta do it

39:41

but. Boy

39:47

did they blow the bridge

39:49

big in this scene. Props

39:51

to the pyro person. Who.

39:53

Set this f it blows real

39:56

big. So awesome. The flames your

39:58

brain and they suit. Long.

40:00

Really Long. So long that

40:02

I was like, I really

40:04

hope that the actors weren't

40:06

actually in the room from

40:09

slugs. Extremely dangerous. Looks great.

40:11

But. The bangers or fell all over

40:13

the ship including down and six bay

40:15

and they look out the front view

40:18

screen and see the shuttle that. Michael

40:21

and book terrorists took take to

40:23

get here. just kind of like

40:25

slips in floating away from them

40:27

and also down and six pay

40:29

the bangers kind of trigger. More.

40:32

Fist Fighting it's been like and

40:34

Michael I almost felt like they

40:37

just like tumbled into each other

40:39

like I've been. Fun fun fun

40:41

fun. So we're having a conversation

40:43

but our not. I love a

40:45

site seen that involves spilling through

40:48

a a glass wall way they

40:50

do. Great moment. One thing I

40:52

really liked about this episode of

40:54

felt felt like when book and

40:57

mall were really likes conflicting michael

40:59

and would be like building rapport

41:01

mm the second. Like one

41:03

of them would reverse course, the

41:05

others would reverse course. Yeah so

41:07

now like book is like having

41:09

a reasonable time recess and. With

41:13

mall where is like like I understand that

41:15

like you have a lot of resentment toward

41:17

your father. Like I really

41:19

admired him and I kind of consider you

41:21

to be family. Here's my pistol. Another

41:24

work and together. I mean, for

41:27

a brief moment. See. Kenneth John

41:29

Woo said second pistol. Your

41:31

Boss! All the Reagan's in this episode

41:34

were so good like everybody has with

41:36

a slightly different design on their guns

41:38

and like long as gonna be selling

41:41

out to get some of these. When.

41:43

That they acts and them are. Finally, He

41:45

was stating the obvious again in Six Bay.

41:48

They. Continue to talk site.

41:51

And finally. Burnham. Is

41:53

able to snatch the clue.

41:56

From. Lock. But. In the

41:58

process lock is stabbed with this

42:00

oh nice that so embarrassing right

42:02

when mall box in she super

42:04

pissed at what's happened and Michael

42:06

psych. I. Didn't do anything.

42:09

That he stabbed himself malls Like you really

42:12

expect me to believe that to hold on

42:14

one second. I gotta do another bush. first.

42:20

Is the thing about the bringing

42:22

that. Only. Their heads can

42:24

be both gas and flesh like ten.

42:27

the rest of. their body not also

42:29

be das and thus. Impervious

42:31

to a knife wounds that we get

42:34

here or or when you go. Solid.

42:36

You. Go sell at all the way. And

42:39

not just parts of view. Us.

42:41

As like it seems like when they

42:43

have a helmet on they are. Slimmer.

42:48

And then maybe just exposure to

42:50

atmosphere makes them not Slammer. Do.

42:53

We know what they are physically. I

42:55

guess gas, you guessed. slime. I am

42:57

not willing to die on on Gas

42:59

Hill. I don't know what they are

43:01

or what they're made of. So.

43:04

In this flashbacks the Primer

43:07

it's Bad Guys are beating

43:09

Mall up and the Prime

43:12

Arts gives Lock one pass

43:14

to redemption and at his

43:16

till mall and a rifle

43:19

is produced for a walk

43:21

to use on her. And.

43:25

He. Takes. A different path

43:27

he shoots. All. The guys and

43:29

than he. Does. Like a non

43:31

lethal attack on his uncle to shoot him

43:33

in the shoulder pads. In

43:36

more are going to go adventure

43:38

together. Will. When he shoots

43:40

his uncle. He.

43:42

Tells mall to leave because you

43:44

know with this era girl. Blood.

43:47

Thing on him. Yeah, like he's the most dangerous

43:50

guy in the world to be around is a

43:52

huge less two seconds with me babe. I'm

43:54

radioactive right now and mole is

43:57

like know? why don't you can.

43:59

Be. Rader with me. It'll be awesome

44:01

and we can escape these asshole us

44:04

together. You're gonna love it! And

44:06

this is convincing. He decides

44:08

to joyner. Rights.

44:11

In real time. Lock.

44:13

Seems pretty sure he's gonna die there,

44:15

but see is as ever. Reassuring.

44:18

And loving. Of. Her special

44:20

guy says so optimistic on

44:22

the bridge sit with the

44:25

Enterprise is bad. it's outta

44:27

control. And. It's going

44:29

towards the space but whole. And.

44:31

On the other side of the whole a

44:33

disco. They're seeing the slashing of a tractor

44:35

beam and there seems to be it a

44:37

sort of code do It that Rainer picks

44:39

up on. And. So. He.

44:42

Changes the plan for Cobra in

44:44

a Dera. They. Need this

44:46

whole opened up wider. And.

44:49

The. Code that Rainer interprets Macys makes it

44:51

clear what they need to do. They.

44:54

Go around the bridge for ideas a

44:56

cast of calories. This is Matt for

44:58

whoever loses to. Infer the

45:00

letter array and Forty Africa open one

45:02

of the district. Or reserve system

45:04

was attacked and you want for the

45:07

plot is so like Reese came up

45:09

with the plan but then everybody gets

45:11

the reward bikes out. I wanted Reese

45:13

to get his flowers and I'll get.

45:16

That. And Reese get screwed over

45:18

here. He's like able nitrate

45:20

torpedoes, a small make that

45:22

thing, super big, assess assess

45:25

and to him it's is

45:27

like points and original. The

45:29

downside to this plan is

45:31

that the whole closes forever

45:33

after sixty seconds. so you

45:35

get one big sniff. And.

45:38

Then there and then you're closed

45:40

for business. So on the Iss

45:43

Enterprise other a minute away from

45:45

from hitting the event horizon here.

45:48

And there you know in this last minute

45:50

and as a whole lotta time. To.

45:52

Say some really emotional things to

45:54

whoever you're with. That.

45:57

That's was Michael Burnham brings up

45:59

when she was jumping around and

46:01

time. How nice it was

46:03

to see books. Great big sweaty chest

46:05

muscles after he came back from the

46:07

gym. To. Use think she

46:10

was insinuating. Something.

46:12

More than just the kiss that they had

46:14

that we saw in That Seems. Oh

46:16

that they that they actually got down. Yes

46:19

because I don't think they had time. really

46:21

like. They. Were they were on

46:23

like a four minute countdown. That's it.

46:25

I thought. And. Yet see made

46:28

it seem as though things were. Pretty

46:31

hot and heavy. The greatest

46:33

is yet to s. On.

46:38

Discovery: Those poppers gets shot at the

46:40

whole. It. Does get really

46:42

big ads. disco tractors, the.

46:45

Enterprise Through that whole i lost

46:47

so much money on this and

46:49

that for sure that they get

46:51

a partially through Beam book and

46:53

Burnham out and then the whole

46:56

would close on the Iss entrepreneur

46:58

and it would explode. Yeah, But.

47:00

Instead, I feel like we're

47:02

rewarded with a single of

47:04

this enterprise in this universe.

47:07

And it looks great! The

47:09

special effects were absolutely gorgeous

47:11

of this entire sequence there.

47:13

so cool again and like

47:15

out like this, Screeners definitely

47:17

had some parts that were

47:19

clearly not finished. There was

47:21

like a couple of places

47:24

where the sound mix wasn't.

47:26

Done. And I was just you know, like

47:28

okay like they have some temp track and here

47:30

and like the haven't. Each

47:32

you'd the dialogue perfectly, but.

47:35

This. Part of his like this

47:37

is motion picture gray, beautiful

47:39

special effects work that they're

47:41

doing. hair and the great

47:43

mom like get away in

47:45

a like medical pod. the

47:47

warp sauce oh I heard

47:49

war pod. Oh. I

47:51

said it had something to do with likes keeping

47:54

lock. On. Life support well while he

47:56

had the stab wound and him. Oh,

47:58

that's going to be important. Yeah, I

48:00

might have heard it wrong but I

48:02

heard tear and war pod as a

48:04

phrase. Now is like oh that's iphone

48:06

I do like even an escape pod

48:09

on it's hair and ship yeah can

48:11

take a lotta s one of was

48:13

definitely miss. Heard something every episode and.

48:16

Themselves as a parent more sunlight

48:19

sign simply equipment that of your

48:21

life support system Smoke Rainer and

48:23

Burnham kind of spend a little

48:25

moment patting each other on the

48:27

back for you know, understanding with

48:29

code. And remembering of the code

48:32

goes and doing a good measure.

48:34

Never been. So. Good

48:36

at being in charge. Burnham.

48:38

Tells rain or sad or detmer

48:40

a know well get the reward

48:43

of flying the Iss Enterprise back

48:45

to Hq storage and rainer say

48:47

so Then who is going to

48:49

fly our ship? Great question not

48:51

answered in this moment. Tilly

48:54

and Colbert have their

48:57

ketchup and. He. Explained

48:59

that he still feeling sort

49:01

of emotionally hung over from

49:03

the journal experience. And.

49:07

Described. This as being kind of

49:09

alienating, partly because he had Paul

49:12

are in really different places Debbie's

49:14

Lazarus last T, the unanswerable questions

49:16

and life and he doesn't really

49:18

know what's going wrong with him,

49:20

but he feels really out of

49:22

whack. And. Till he sort

49:24

of points him in the direction of these being. Spiritual.

49:27

Questions. That. He

49:29

might want to be. Addressing.

49:33

Can. You imagine Season One Tilly

49:35

being. Treated. As a

49:37

confidant for some of the heavy questions

49:39

being asked of her. In. An

49:41

episode like this is really come a long way. Yeah.

49:44

I like the character are messy

49:46

like that. feels really tied to

49:48

Herb making. A proactive

49:51

decision about what kind of a. Career

49:54

she wants to have and. Like.

49:56

Feeling self assured that see as like on

49:58

the right track me well in a way

50:00

that you didn't before. Will. If

50:03

you're gonna be an instructor, At

50:05

any level, you're gonna get asked a ton

50:07

of questions. And so like

50:09

sees demonstrating and seems like this that

50:12

that she's able to answer them even

50:14

when. The. Answers are really difficult to

50:16

come by. So. We

50:19

learn a little bit more

50:21

about the Loo. It's.

50:23

Clue as a lesson and.

50:26

The. Crew of the

50:28

Iss entrepreneurs. Came.

50:30

Over to the Prime Universe and

50:32

actually became. Members.

50:35

Of the Federation. And

50:37

the scientists from the team that

50:39

worked on the progenitor technology that

50:41

made this particular clue. Was

50:44

one of those scientists. And

50:47

left this clue on the

50:49

Iss Enterprise as like a

50:52

lesson in. I. Guess

50:54

like second chances ends. Determining.

50:57

Your own destiny and not like

50:59

letting Ill shit from the past

51:01

be the thing that determines your

51:03

destiny I guess. God yeah, Every

51:05

rat do you feel like this

51:07

is gonna be the story for

51:09

the Section Thirty One movie. When.

51:11

They talked about the records disappearing after

51:13

a certain point. That really did feel

51:16

Section Thirty One A to me. As.

51:19

An. Answer to but yeah like we

51:21

can shape or own future and

51:23

dairy wave goodbye. To.

51:25

The Iss Entrepreneur, and Er

51:28

That's Or Episode. Did.

51:30

You like this one out of. This.

51:38

Is one of those episodes that every

51:40

season needs were. A tennis

51:42

hills sin the spaces between. The.

51:44

Major plot points It It tells us

51:46

a little more about the reasons. Things.

51:49

Are happening and not just. Those.

51:51

Actions, But one thing really stood out

51:53

to me. About it. And.

51:56

That was the coburn stam.

51:58

It's conflict. In

52:01

that Colbert just can't. Figure.

52:03

Out why Stam it's

52:05

isn't on his level

52:07

about inexperience he endured.

52:10

And. Also, in a very similar way.

52:13

How Mall and

52:15

Cleveland Booker. Have. Very

52:17

different feelings about the same

52:19

person. I'd her father,

52:21

his mentor. And it

52:24

just made me think about how generally.

52:26

To people can have very different

52:29

relationships with the same person right?

52:31

Since. No. One

52:33

ever says that. But.

52:36

I feel like that is a universal

52:38

truth, Know like? Like. And it's

52:40

okay. It's. Okay for colbert.

52:43

But. He's really freaked out by this. He's

52:45

freaked out that stam. It's. Either.

52:48

Because he's being kept from coal burners

52:50

experience in some way or maybe and

52:52

all those times that Cobras tried to

52:55

tell him he to hasn't been able

52:57

to like be there for him. That's

52:59

something that scary. Scary.

53:01

Isn't the ceiling for what's happening

53:03

between ball and and Cleveland Booker?

53:05

But it's very clearly like. They're.

53:08

Talking about the same guy, but their relationships

53:10

are different and. Sometimes I just had this is

53:12

how it is. It. Feels

53:14

like a very different vibe for a

53:17

Star Trek Discovery that seems. Super.

53:20

Motivated to get everyone on the

53:22

same level. Go. And in

53:24

the same direction. Sinking. Very

53:27

similarly. about. The.

53:29

Quality of the interpersonal

53:31

relationships on this show.

53:34

So. Maybe it could be a thing

53:36

where down the road it is revealed

53:38

that like maybe this. Show.

53:41

And it's characters arts as.

53:43

And want to use the word pretty but

53:46

like whatever a synonym for that word is

53:48

about that quality and people and how we

53:50

feel exactly the same about them. Yeah,

53:53

and I'm saying that I make any sense of

53:55

that's his word salad. but that's I'm thinking about

53:57

this episode. Of.

53:59

I you. The gets interesting. I mean. One

54:02

thing I've been thinking about a lot. And. A

54:04

know why this made me. What? You just

54:06

said made me think of this. but. They.

54:09

Are following all these like ancient clues

54:11

but their ancient clues for the perfect

54:13

of of like everybody else. Like.

54:15

From the perspective of the people on

54:17

Discovery, they're. Still, Sort of

54:19

future people to them that made these

54:22

ah so this like they're kind of

54:24

like inoculated from considering this to be

54:26

the wisdom of the ancients and away

54:29

were like oh like people from the

54:31

past like an into added something on

54:33

a deeper level that we can't possibly

54:35

understand in our fallen present. that's really

54:38

interesting and maybe the character that had

54:40

didn't the closest contact with the opposite.

54:43

Would. Be colbert right for his

54:45

experience with the Trill. Yeah and

54:47

I felt like Cobra has seemed

54:49

a little like out of whack

54:52

but is it hasn't been completely?

54:54

Well. Defined. I

54:56

guess that's like sort of part of

54:58

the point is that like he doesn't

55:01

understand how and why he feels out

55:03

of whack but of the air and

55:05

I think it's very interesting that like

55:07

it isn't just an Indiana Jones experience

55:10

for them. were there like following ancient

55:12

clues because. Agent is

55:14

like a totally relative term than

55:16

they're even aims to assist assist,

55:19

right? I mean, it's It's sort

55:21

of analogous to. Like. When

55:23

you talk about ancient versus you true. Science.

55:26

Versus Faith is another yeah way

55:28

to consider it, right? So yeah,

55:31

I thought it was. A

55:33

really good episode. I. Thought.

55:35

All the bringing stuff was really exciting and

55:37

a look at how much we learned about

55:40

the Breen Ah I thought the costume design

55:42

on the brain was great to that kind

55:44

of has it picks up some of the

55:46

shapes that they add in the universe forms

55:48

that we saw deface Nine and stuff but.

55:51

You. Know they just looked like awesome

55:53

and modern and seems like we

55:55

are bound to learn a lot

55:57

more about them and. That

56:00

has been. One. Of the

56:02

Great Lakes. Did. Our Star Trek

56:04

species that has been him a lot has

56:06

been implied about, but very little has actually

56:09

been shown about. So I'm. I'm.

56:11

Psyched about that and dare as it is.

56:13

The one thing that I didn't like was.

56:16

A. Load Detmer sort of seem like they got written

56:18

off the show in this episode and they weren't even

56:20

in it. There. Was a

56:22

be on that shot? Where's the

56:25

Iss Enterprises floating away that sell

56:27

like two seconds too long? In

56:29

a way that kind of suggested

56:32

goodbye. Yes. And

56:34

if that's the last we see. Oh.

56:37

Detmer or a doe. I

56:40

want to be really upset by.

56:42

let's cut back to that transit

56:44

time to time With the remaining

56:46

episodes I would love to see

56:48

like those two on a giant

56:50

ship alone having the best busing

56:52

sign a suppressive in the next

56:54

episode yes Sir Bob and episode

56:56

and says that retailer of med

56:58

like like see how large to

57:00

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57:02

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57:04

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for listening. B C

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and next week Greatest Tree. Next.

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Month. A worker own

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network of artist and says

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supported directly. By you.