In this special episode two of my favorite Portland women, Jenny Serna and Moe Bowstern,  talk about their magic.   

We constructed this episode in a universe's grab-bag/Stir The Pot sort of way - I made a list of questions, Moe and Jenny took turns choosing numbers and we trusted the swirling everything to turn up what wanted considering. It was perfect as they are perfect as this whole beautiful, devastating, glorious thing is perfect.

Take a listen!