About this episode

Why are we talking about stress and burnout on a podcast about grief? Well, as you’ve likely experienced, grief is essentially a chronic stressor. This is particularly true in a culture that is grief avoidant, and where toxic positivity is rampant. Where we no longer live in tribes or communities that can help us discharge it. In essence, we’re left to our own devices to figure out how to be with our grief.

The good news is that today’s guest, Emily Nagoski, co-author of the phenomenal book Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle will help us unpack the myths of stress and help us understand the strategies we need to discharge the stress we experience in grief and in life.

Get ready! She is full of wisdom, stories, humor, energy and so much more. You are going to learn so much from her.

About the guest

Emily Nagoski is the award-winning author of the New York Times bestselling Come As You Are and The Come As You Are Workbook, and coauthor, with her sister, Amelia, of New York Times bestseller Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. Her next book, Come Together: The Science (and Art!) of Creating Lasting Sexual Connections will be out in January 2024.

Emily earned an M.S. in counseling and a Ph.D. in health behavior, both from Indiana University, with clinical and research training at the Kinsey Institute. Now she combines sex education and stress education to teach women to live with confidence and joy inside their bodies. She lives in Massachusetts with two dogs, a cat, and a cartoonist.

Books and resources

You can find all the books featured on the show by visiting the Grief is a Sneaky Bitch Wishlist on Bookshop.org

You can learn more about all of Emily’s work and pick up a copy of her incredible book, Burnout, and the corresponding workbook by visiting www.emilynagoski.com. Stay tuned for her forthcoming book, Come Together, which drops January 2024.

You can learn more about Lisa’s work and pre-order a copy of her forthcoming book, Grief is a Sneaky Bitch: An Uncensored Guide to Navigating Loss by visiting www.lisakeefauver.com. While you’re there, you can sign up for her Not-So-Regular Newsletter, register for an upcoming online grief workshop or watch her TEDx talk, Why Knowing More About Grief Can Make it Suck Less.

Oh, and this season, if you want to WATCH the show, you can now watch it on YouTube @lisakeefauvermsw

Recorded August 25, 2023

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