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Unknown Speaker 0:00 You're listening to local programming produced in KU NV studios. The content of this program does not reflect the views or opinions of 91.5. Jas and more the University of Nevada, Las Vegas or the Board of Regents of the Nevada System of Higher Education. Unknown Speaker 0:18 Welcome to Growing Pains. I'm your host, ginger, join me and my best friend as we talked about growing up and trying not to break down Unknown Speaker 0:32 Hello, everybody love growing pains media. Unknown Speaker 0:35 I love growing pains. So we'll admit the audio quality is probably not as good as you guys are used to. Yeah, that is because we are in LA in California and California. We're mo lives and I'm filming in her apartment on my phone. So sorry if the audio sucks, but it'll have to do part Unknown Speaker 1:00 of this part of the podcasting career I Unknown Speaker 1:04 guess experience? Yeah. But again, I'm Ginger. I'm Morgan. Morgan and we are lesbians day Oh, if you hear a little like Russell or like a little like bricks falling. Yeah, we're building we're building Legos, bricks, volumes crazy bricks falling, but um, we thought it'd be special to do an episode together because as you guys know, I had Moe come down to Vegas to film one episode. Yeah, but me and Moe are in a long distance relationship. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I'm lucky enough to be able to fly up here and see her so that is the topic for today's episode. Up. Also really quick song of the week. Oh, oh, today sorry about week so Unknown Speaker 1:49 easily. Good luck day by Chapel Road. Yeah, Unknown Speaker 1:53 I said that last week. We did that last week. Yeah. We have been listening that song and onStop Yeah, that has been my nonstop Unknown Speaker 1:58 listening song. Like it's I'm so obsessed with chapel. I love her. Yeah. Mostly put ginger on to Chapter Yeah, that's Unknown Speaker 2:05 true. One thing about Mo is that she did put me on the chapel and I rave about chapel on the podcast, but I did Unknown Speaker 2:12 like chapel for very early. I liked her. I mean, not like 2017 Like I wasn't there like a 2017 fan, but I was definitely I was there when she blew up blew up. Yeah, I was there before I was there. That's tour. I was there before red wine supernova was released. That's actually really insane. Unknown Speaker 2:31 That's a good way to gauge it. Yeah. My song the week is probably me think I'm gonna do I'm gonna do I'm gonna do oh my god, this is taking so long. I'm so sorry, guys. My song of the week is anything by this band crochet their local band in Las Vegas. Shout out Zach. He's in my guitar class. And it's so funny because it's a beginner to guitar class. But that kid literally is like very, very good at guitar, and outplays. Everybody, even the teacher. Anyway, I just want to give a shout out to the band. I started listening to them. I forgot the name of my favorite song. So I sound like a fake fan. But listen to a crayon. Fake fan. I listen to them. That's cool. Yeah, so we are. We're in California. This is so funny. Because like, I don't know, I love that. It's a traveling podcast episode. Maybe I'll do this more often. We'll just like go out random places. She's on the move, and film. But yeah, today's topic is about long distance relationships. It's funny because Mo was like, so what is your podcast about? And so we had chosen the name growing pains. Well, actually was Kylie who came up with it. That's cute. Because when we were starting the podcast, the girls just moved out to their first into their first apartment. It was our first year of our freshman first semester of our freshman year. And like, we were all going through crazy, like, like experience experiences heartbreak, like insane. And so it's about like growing up and like the pains that come with it. Can you guys believe that? Oh, my God. But I think something that is unique to me and Moe is the fact that we're in a long distance relationship. No one in the group no one else is in a long distance relationship. So that's why we decided this topic because we're like, we might as well talk about something personal to us that yeah, no one else has talked about before. No Yeah, I Unknown Speaker 4:40 honestly think I think that or I do think our relationship is stronger because we are long distance. You know, it's like a kind of, it's a different kind of relationship. I feel like like, I feel like a lot of people who are in long distance relationships can like agree with that, but like it's like a different kind. Like, growing, you know exactly, because you're because you're learning how to be apart from each other. Unknown Speaker 5:05 Yeah, first. Exactly. That's fascinating. So you're right. Most people go through that later. Unknown Speaker 5:11 Yeah, mostly will go through that later, like, you know, on business trips or anything, anything. I mean, just in general where they're like, I mean, my parents, when they first got together, they were together for a while. And then my dad had to go to Colorado. And my mom, they were like, long distance for a while, but that wasn't in the beginning. It's like you and I were long distance in the beginning, which I think and now still, but like, we still like have opportunities to like see each other and things like that. So I think that's like why I think it's just a huge thing. Long distance relationships can really work. If the two people are Unknown Speaker 5:41 like, committed it is it's a huge commitment thing. Only Unknown Speaker 5:45 if it's only if you're committed, then it's if you're afraid of commitment. This is not be a long one do not get. Unknown Speaker 5:53 Yeah, I was afraid. Yeah. Big commitments. Because of my previous relationship. Yeah, that's not a bad thing. And so yeah, I would say yeah, that's what's interesting is, I think, because we're younger. And I think at this age, it usually goes like when you fall in love, like you're with each other every single day. And your friends are like, Where the hell are you? Yeah, we're like in college, or Unknown Speaker 6:13 you're just like, because, you know, yeah, Unknown Speaker 6:15 you grew up together. And you're right, we kind of had to do certain things apart. But, um, again, I think we are really strong. Oh, yeah. A big part of it is both of us are big communicators. So everything every young and I have a belief that you can't over communicate in a relationship. Yeah, I'm, Unknown Speaker 6:34 I'm 100% with you, you Unknown Speaker 6:35 know what I mean? I think it's better to talk about every single thing than to not talk about things. Unknown Speaker 6:42 So if you don't talk about things it's just gonna like yes a fester in the relationship and then all of a while, you know, just wanted something. It just it'll just get hard. Or you know, Unknown Speaker 6:52 I think our dynamic just to like, tell everybody so what we we met online? We did we met on hinge, you guys know that. But immediately, and I think this is what really helped and what still helps us now is we started FaceTiming. Oh, yeah, like very immediately. That is a huge part of our relationship. Like, shoot, I mean, because we can't see each other, like 20% of the time 80% was FaceTime. And like, I'm a really terrible texter. Even now, like, even with the girls, I'm terrible. I texting. Unknown Speaker 7:28 Honestly, it doesn't even like faze me, because I know that like we'll call later. So that's not, that's not a big issue. For me. I'm Unknown Speaker 7:34 a huge face timer, and I think that really helped us but yeah, it's funny because like, I guess we're still new into long distance relationships, but it's really healthy. I don't think I'm going to be so honest. I know that couples probably go through really rough patches with it. And like, I don't want to like save you. Well. That's normal. But I think we've been really strong for a growing relationship. I think, in my opinion, that's probably where long distance is the hardest is when you're first starting today. When me mo so Mo. The first time we ever met, she came down for Thanksgiving break. Yeah. So we weren't explained. You already lived in Vegas. And you went to you go to California for school. Unknown Speaker 8:15 So that yeah, I go to Unknown Speaker 8:17 kind of say that. You want to talk to yourself? Yeah, I Unknown Speaker 8:19 guess I gotta I gotta AMDA in Hollywood, California. Right. She lives. Capitol Records, building addresses. But um, you know, it's, it's, uh, I grew up in Vegas since I was a How old was there? Maybe middle school? Middle school. Yeah, getting a middle school beginning of middle school. And then I've lived there my whole life. And then I moved to moved to wherever I am now, I guess. But yeah, I think what are we even talking about? I got distracted. We were like, I just started associating as I owe you my school. We Unknown Speaker 8:57 were just talking about how like, this is. So this is our circumstance. So mo goes to California. family lives in Vegas, so yeah, of course she comes down. Unknown Speaker 9:05 Yeah, my family lives in Vegas. I'm like a four hour drive. So I make the drive a lot. But I've driven I've driven the drive so many Unknown Speaker 9:12 little Kia Soul up and down to Vegas. All the time. Unknown Speaker 9:17 It doesn't like it's just so the drive is actually really easy now and like if you like kind of listen to good music, then you're fine. Like it's Unknown Speaker 9:25 about good music. With good soundtrack. No, okay, Unknown Speaker 9:28 you have to perform the entirety of the wicked soundtrack or you're not making it like like it's like it's true. It's just like how are you gonna? How am I gonna make if I don't listen to Unknown Speaker 9:37 wicked we love wicked here we love I'm not a theater kid though. Don't Unknown Speaker 9:40 get it twisted. Ginger is a theater kid. All right, moving denial theater kid moving on. Oh, girl, you know, Hamilton, you everyone Unknown Speaker 9:48 knows Hamilton. That's a fair one because everyone knows right? But listen, but listen, Unknown Speaker 9:54 you know Hamilton in a different way. You're like I do mean the girls watch it once a week. Okay, wow. You out of the girls. Dead I'm sorry guys. The truth you guys watch it. You watch it more than me. Unknown Speaker 10:05 I'm a Hamilton love it but smoke comes down pretty often. I mean, your family still lives there. But yeah, we met. We met online online but then met in person. Thanksgiving bring lots of indie. Like we have a lot of invisible string. Yeah, we have a lot of invisible string moments. Yeah, very. And we explained that before but like basically I mean mo had been in the same rooms at the same time. knew the same people. I have been to LVA several times literally Unknown Speaker 10:35 no, it's, we were always like, we were very much connected. Like without even realizing like we we had mutual friends even when we weren't even together. But yeah, Unknown Speaker 10:47 it's the right time. It's funny. We we probably met before, but we really got to know each other at the right time. Yeah, so mo comes down for breaks. And so she came down on Thanksgiving break. The very first like day we met we were like, Yeah, we're gonna get a couple. Yeah, we literally like kissed first day. I remember Unknown Speaker 11:05 being in the car with ginger and going. So are we gonna date or five seconds and I was like, Can Unknown Speaker 11:11 we please like I've been psyching myself out. I knew I really liked Moe. And obviously, I really like Moe. And I was like, but I can't be too fast can be fast. So I was like, no, let's wait a little bit. So we met the first day. And then the second day, I was like, Would you be my girlfriend. But it worked out. And it's it's this is the most beautiful, transformative, like experience to be in love with you. And not to get too cheesy, corny. No. Let's get too cheesy. But I think a big part of it. And I know all of you've heard this before, but to be known is to be loved. Right? To be loved to be knowing. Yeah. And like, I think that we understand each other in a very, very deep and beautiful way like well, those parts for me that I haven't shown anybody ever Yeah. And I think being understood and being truly truly like, I just I don't have to doubt like you just know me like, you know me and I know that's love. Yeah, Unknown Speaker 12:09 I that's why I think long distance it like not to say like everyone should try it. But truthfully, like, it's a really, it's it's grown like you grow in a different way in a different pace. I feel like some people I feel like you and I, like seem like we've been dating for like two years. Yes, I think because we've been long distance. It's about Unknown Speaker 12:28 how we ensure like, it's really like, you mature a little more Unknown Speaker 12:33 different way. Like you have to you have to trust you have to trust your partner. And that's the biggest thing. Yeah, like, it's like, you that's yeah, it's you just have to do all of that trust. And it's kind of wild when? I don't know, it's a different form of trust. Yeah. I mean, I know, I've just had that like, 12 times, but it's, like, you know what, I mean? It's just like, a different. It's different than how, yeah, not to say that every other relationship doesn't move at that pace. But it's like, a lot of a lot of long distance relationships move in a certain way, like we, you know, because you can't be there physically. So it's like, yeah, what else are we gonna, like, what we need to talk? What are we gonna talk about? So then it's like, you talk and then you grow and then even when we're in person, I feel like you and I have like very, very real conversations. I just remember like, in the car, you know, when wherever whenever ginger and I are in person. It's like we're very Yeah, we're still very open. And yeah, that's something that's really beautiful. can't really hide anything from each other. Like very, very seats. I'm very see through with very transparent Unknown Speaker 13:39 with you Yeah, and I will say, I mean, we got to talk about like the hard parts of long distance to Oh, yeah. Besides because we both are like when we're with each other like we show love like with like our physical language like you know, we hold hands or I remember back like I I hold just like physics. Yeah, I think obviously, it's hard there's some days where we're calling and I'm like mo I just really wish you're here right now. Yeah, really? There are days where it just gets like Unknown Speaker 14:11 I'll have a hard day at school are you know like hard day just with people around me and I'll just be like ginger like you are my person like I really wish you should I Unknown Speaker 14:19 think that is a hard part I also think oh my god sorry friends is going on in the background and Robin Williams is in this episode. Unknown Speaker 14:28 I'd love if I told him about how I met him and my dream like I said, That's not to me like spiritual, okay, we're skipping we're skipping doesn't mean like spiritual or anything. But like, I actually I was obsessed with Robin Williams going up. Like he was like, my favorite person in the world. And when I found out that he died, I was shattered. I was super really sad. I was shattered and especially from suicide was like so gut wrenching. I love Robin Williams cyber jumping from like, no, no, no, Unknown Speaker 14:53 I'm gonna be sorry. Unknown Speaker 14:54 I love Robin Williams. Like I've watched probably like every single thing of his I'm gonna be so real. Have you. I had a I had a Time magazine that I used to sleep with that I used to, like carry everywhere. I had it had every single one of his movies, shows everything in it. And I used to watch them all. And I was so obsessed with him. And I was just like connected to him in a very specific way that I couldn't explain. And then one night, I had a dream that I was in this big iridescent room. And I was when he was wearing one of my hats because I had shaved my head for kids with cancer. And they gave me this hat. Yeah, when I was younger, like this huge, like leprechaun hat for it. You know, I had a bald head and I don't want to get cold. And he was wearing the St. Baldrick's hat and my dream and I was like, Holy crap. You're Robin Williams. I'm like, what? Like, I'm like 10. And he was like, yeah, he was like, you're really missing me right now, aren't you? Oh, and I was like, yeah, um, and like, we had a whole, like, fit conversation in my sleep. So that's why I'm always just like, I've met Robin Williams. Like, yeah, I feel like I've met like, he literally, I've literally met him, like, deeper than his ghost, but I feel like I spiritually, I think, like, I met him. And that happened to me a couple times. It happened to me before like my cousin died and things like that. Like, yeah, like it was a really powerful. It was crazy, because I knew that like when she died, like, I had a I had a wild dream. She was just like, hey, like, I'll see you later, like in the dream, and I was like, oh, and I woke up and they were like, Hey, she passed like, it was just crazy. Like, that's happened to me all the time. So like, I'm very spiritual with with that kind of stuff. I just feel like they agree. Unknown Speaker 16:21 Sorry. No, it's like, no, no, no, dreams are very like, I don't know. It's also like, where I figure things out. Yeah, like I always mean something. Yeah, always have super super like, deep about my dreams. I take it very, very, I don't want to say too seriously, but I take them Unknown Speaker 16:38 to interpret people's dreams. Like I was just like, they always used to be like, Morgan, what do you think this means? And I would always be like, I would always be I was always kind of good at it. You know, that kind of stuff. Unknown Speaker 16:46 I should have got the psychology of dreams by no wish Unknown Speaker 16:51 we went to Barnes and Noble yesterday, and it's a three story Barnes and Noble. Unknown Speaker 16:55 Oh my god. It's beautiful guys. Unknown Speaker 16:57 It's in the grove at shout out with the grove. Yeah, shout out the grove. I Unknown Speaker 17:01 love the grove. We love the grove. We went and first of all, yes, we did go to Barnes and Noble. But Taylor has her pop up. Yeah. Today I know. Is that crazy? Yeah, she had her pop up for it. And we were like, Oh, cool. The lines. Unknown Speaker 17:17 Like a listening party. Like we've done like a party like you guys will have a party. But you're all invited. You're all invited. Please Unknown Speaker 17:25 join us Spotify listening link. I know. I don't know if I'll be able to beep No, no, that's why I did this Unknown Speaker 17:34 kind. But we were like, Oh, don't worry, the ones that that long. And it was crazy went up for blocks and blocks. They think it was long because they they have to have breaks in between the lines because people are walking through the Unknown Speaker 17:49 snow. And so like we went to the first block, and they're like, oh, this line, we were like oh, okay, so it's not that bad. And we went to the second line. They were like, Oh, one more down. And it was around completely like Oh, come on. Like the whole mall. Yeah, like Unknown Speaker 18:03 Oh, and he just looked at it from afar like it's a we will admit the pop up itself was really small, like Unknown Speaker 18:10 tiny, but you know, like, ginger and I were like we are huge tennis fans like that was something that actually like early on the relationship that we bonded over. Oh, yeah. That we were like very much TV. What's Unknown Speaker 18:20 your favorite Taylor songs? Yeah, I'm in love with you. Literally like that's very Unknown Speaker 18:23 much how it was um, you know, I'm a huge with D so it's ginger. We both saw her in concert. Yeah, I saw her at the Arizona tour. I don't even live in Arizona. That is so fun. I literally went and you saw Paramore to see Paramore so like I bought the tickets and I took Harper took my best friend Harper. And it was so fun. And I remember like, Oh my God, it was just like the best night of my life. Like I've never I mean, I am Jewish, but I've never been more religious than I was. Like, I remember her like God is like I was I was praising like I was like, What am I like when you're Chapin? What do you worship? I've never worship cans in my life. And I was like when I was young, I Unknown Speaker 19:06 was like, that was like yeah, Unknown Speaker 19:08 that was the gospel. No literally oh my god I think it was a reputation was where it was the most like religious like really like folklore. I was like, ah, folklore. I was super like religious but like the holy the worship hands. I started doing those during refutation. That is so and I've never been like, I was like, Unknown Speaker 19:25 a musician. What was the song? Is it that one? Yeah, I was washing hands those and I remember like I loved I loved it. We Unknown Speaker 19:40 love Taylor Swift. I love salesmen. We love him. So that was a big thing actually, to kind of tie back into long distance relationships. Me and Moe are very very music music was huge playlist. Yes. Listening to the same songs like and making each other love playlists were like, so huge but like, yeah, guys long distance release. cuz Yep, it's hard. And I wouldn't say like, obviously, if you don't have to be a long distance relationship and you don't have don't like don't like I would recommend like, hey, like if you could do it in person, but it's worth it for Mo. Always gonna be worth it. Unknown Speaker 20:17 I think I think the big thing, if, if you want to work for Unknown Speaker 20:22 them to work, exactly, I think we both had to be like, Okay, this is gonna be hard. Yeah, no, Unknown Speaker 20:27 no, it's because this is actually my first real relationship, like, not a situation ship real relationship. And, and you were in a previous relationship. But I Unknown Speaker 20:39 feel you know, what's ironic is I feel closer to you than I ever did to that person. And that person lives in the same. Which is why it's, it's it's crazy Unknown Speaker 20:48 that Yeah, and I, I think, I mean, if you're listening to this, and you're like, in a, in a moment where, I don't know, maybe, maybe there's someone that you really want to be with, but it is going to be long distance. Yeah, I would say it's worth it. Unknown Speaker 21:01 I'd say it's worth it. But again, you guys have to have the same priorities. But same priorities, same values, same idea for this relationship, same commitment, you have to have the same effort. Yeah, you have to go in Unknown Speaker 21:14 the work. It can just be exactly one person putting everything in. But I also think in relationships, it always balances out because one person can have a relationship where it's like, sometimes, like they can't give all 100% They can't give 50% So they give what like, if they give 30%, then the other person makes up for that. But I think that's the big thing about relationships, it balances out. It's always gonna go back to 100%. Michelle Obama say that, yeah, that's literally where my mom got it. My mom told me that. So Unknown Speaker 21:41 if Mo was giving, she's like, I can only give 20 right now and then I'll be like, I can give 80 Yeah, and it's normal, you know, but like, if someone is constantly present by someone continually will put an effort into relationship. That is that is 1000 words. That's enough. Yeah. But yeah, long distance is is it's, it's something I thought I was never capable of. So low. We're dating. Sorry, not to cut you off. Before me and started dating. I remember. I went to the girls and was like, there's this girl I really like, but she lives in California. I just don't know if it'll like work out. Yeah. And, you know, that's their typical, like, Oh, would you ever do auditions? And I'd be like, No, I could never like I would never. And then of course, I feel like if anyone were to meet MOE which and Moe was such a beautiful person, Oh, do you not fall in love? Stafford but I met her and I had to get really serious. It was a moment to myself, I, I realized I was like, No, I want to do this. And I want to do with her. And I I know that eventually with how our future is because we have, we're both like, we have goals. Like we have really big like life goals, career goals. And we were talking about five year plans if our five year plans and I do believe there's going to be future remain mobile get to live together. Yeah, together. And, again, Unknown Speaker 23:01 I think it's all about combining your feet 100% You know, if we each have a five year plan, and then we just figure out how to work with each other to do that, then there's nothing wrong with it. Unknown Speaker 23:10 And like one thing I did, like, my parents have brought this up. I kind of want to bring it up to where they're like, Well, do you ever think like things wouldn't like like your relationships only really good? Because it's long distance? Like, what have you guys like, live together? And then you realize it's like all like, fun and kittens and unicorns and rainbows. Right? Whatever. And I remember thinking about that question, because it kind of scared me because I was like, is that true? Is that what happens? Yeah. But I truly, truly think that if mean, Mo had the opportunity to not be long distance who would take it? 100% Yeah, 100% I agree. And like me and myself, so we've done like, longer trips together, or like, played a little bit. 11 Make a wish, guys. She stayed down in Vegas for a week. And I came up for like five days. When I came up for five days, because Mo has an apartment. We kind of like live together and saw what that's like. Yeah, and he was it was really nice. Really nice. I it's like, I don't think long distance is the only thing keeping a strong. Does that make sense? Oh, no. So I do think that if we were able to shift it in person and living together or being with each other, we could do it. Yeah, I would want that right now. It's hard because we don't have the opportunity to have that right now. But it's okay. It's okay. Yeah, it's hard. Sometimes I have to, I have to like encourage us and be like, Don't worry, ginger. You're gonna see her soon, right? The longest we've gone is like a month and a half without seeing each other two months, like almost two months without seeing each other. And it was hard. Now Unknown Speaker 24:46 normally normally, it's like I come down you come up, come up. We take turns. So we do take turns since I don't like but sometimes like it's easier for me to come down. Unknown Speaker 24:54 Yeah, also shout out mama G because I kind of like love telling the story. So I remember I told mom I was dating you. And I was like, This is gonna be a long distance relationship. And Mama was skeptical. She's like, okay, she's like, well, the next time you can see if you ever want to fly up to see her, right, yeah, you have to wait until you're dating for me here. That was when I first met your missus when we first thought we use giving Yes. And I was so discouraged. I was like, what I have to wait a year and I was, you know, I'm, I'm gonna be so honest. I'm so dramatic. I was like, I can't believe Jesus said that. But I also understood I saw Mom and I was like, You know what, I respect what it was Unknown Speaker 25:34 like, okay, like, that's, this is your daughter, like, I'm not gonna like exactly like, I'm never gonna be like, No fly up here. Oh my gosh, no, I'm always gonna respect your mother's wishes and your wishes. And your I know, you're always need to, Unknown Speaker 25:47 I'm always gonna respect my parents and your parents wishes. I was just dramatic and petty, but in reality I was. You know what? I know, Mama. What Mama's really telling us is we have to prove that like, this is serious and that we're committed to each other. Yeah. But um, I remember my mom. I took them out of the house when we all first met. And she met my family. And mom was like, hey, Mo, you know, just gonna have to wait until you're you're dating to fly up and see. And roll looks at my mom. She smiled. She said, Okay. Sounds good. And my mom, when I came back home that night, she was like, I really liked that. She was like, because what wasn't worried? You didn't see any fear? You know, you didn't see him like a whole year. It's like no mo was like, Yeah, sure. And so ever since then, my mom really, really liked you because you weren't afraid of a little challenge. You know? What, a couple months after that. Mom was like, Oh, by the way, me and Mo book to a surprise flight for your birthday to go see Unknown Speaker 26:48 ya. You Your mom actually had messaged me and was like, hey, like, I want to get Unknown Speaker 26:52 a ginger ticket up. So see you for Mama loves Mo. She might be like, I'll talk about and be like, Whatever, whatever. But Unknown Speaker 27:01 my parents, my family love you. I love. Love you. Like it's kind of wild. Whenever I'm on the phone with you. I mean, whenever I'm on the phone with my parents or anything. They're like, How's ginger, and my parents were the same thing for my grandma, like, like, my grandma was like, How's ginger? Unknown Speaker 27:16 I do want to say one thing. And I know the episodes ending soon. But this, I do want to tell everyone this because it means a lot to me. As you guys know, my past relationship had come from that she was in a Mormon family. And she herself had not been completely out when we had been together. And so it was really difficult. Because family to me is a really huge thing. And with her family, I never got the opportunity to really know them. Yeah. Or for them to really like me. Because they didn't support gay people they didn't support. Yeah, I mean, I say didn't support they were truly truly, really against it. Yeah. So it's not that they didn't support the rosary really against it. It just wasn't it's just not in there. In the end. I remember that being really hard because I'm a very, I wanted her family to like me so bad. And I wanted them to, you know, I don't know, I just I wanted them to like me so bad. And I couldn't control it. They hated me. And going and meeting those family and seeing how they welcomed me with open arms and they hugged me. And they immediately were like, We are supportive. We were relationship. Yeah. was so huge to me. I'm gonna get emotional. Oh. Unknown Speaker 28:40 My grandmother, yeah. Unknown Speaker 28:42 Grandma's but um, I remember it was during Christmas time. And most dad came down because I had a Christmas present for them. And it was a bunch of cookies and cookie. Yeah, your mom was busy with a meeting but I go go into your house and your dad really hugs me. Oh, good cry. Your dad like hugs me hugs me. Oh, yeah. And I remember. I was like, Okay, we have Merry Christmas. I love you guys. Here's your gift. And I wrote them a letter to a really sweet letter. And I walk out the door and I start crying. And I call my mom and she said Why you cry when you cry? And I'm like, No, I'm happy. I was like, her dad hugged me. And it was something so small. But it was huge to me because I just never thought to get to experience that but we are at the end of the app. So thank you guys. So yes, we love you guys. Love you sorry that the audio is a little bad. But yeah, bye guys. Unknown Speaker 29:42 My squad. Unknown Speaker 29:43 Thank you so much for listening to growing pains. You can follow us on Instagram at Growing Pains gram or on tick tock Growing Pains talk. hope you tune in next week. Transcribed by https://otter.ai