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We love dogs. Cats
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are great too, no shade, but Americans
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really love dogs. According
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to data from the American Pet Products
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Association, sixty six percent
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of American households own a pet, and
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of those roughly eighty six point nine
0:19
million households, the vast
0:22
majority are dog owners.
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At the start of the pandemic, there was a surge
0:27
of new dog ownership, with shelters running
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out of dogs as the new work from
0:31
home lifestyle took hold. However,
0:34
as inflation continues to rise
0:36
and people return to the workplace and social
0:38
lives outside of the home, sadly, some
0:41
newer pet owners are struggling to
0:43
pay and properly care for their new
0:45
furry family members. With
0:47
the number of animals and shelters now
0:50
increasing, How can we avoid
0:52
over committing to man's best friend and make
0:54
sure we're really ready for the responsibility
0:56
of dog ownership financially, mentally,
0:59
and time wise. Start taking notes.
1:01
Because this is hello,
1:08
my fellow glow up grown ups
1:10
who want a dog but are not so sure
1:12
they're ready for it. You have come to the right place, my
1:14
friends, because this is grown up stuff. How to
1:16
Adult the podcast where we figure out
1:19
all sorts of adulting life lessons like
1:21
budgeting for annual vet bills and time
1:23
management for walks in the middle of the workday. I
1:26
am Mollie and I am joined as always
1:28
by my fellow dog lover who's got
1:31
real Irish Setter energy. Matt
1:33
Stillo. Matt, did
1:35
you grow.
1:35
Up with a dog?
1:36
Sadly?
1:37
No, that's a travesty
1:39
I feel for you now. Have you and
1:41
your lovely wife ever thought about getting a dog
1:43
though?
1:44
Yeah, before she moved to the United States, Elena was thinking
1:46
about getting a Samoi ed, which is like a
1:48
big, white, fluffy cloud
1:51
like dog. Yeah, but then she ended up
1:53
moving. We talk all the time about getting a
1:55
Golden Retriever, but every year we
1:57
go see her family or my family for excited
1:59
peer of time, which would make it really difficult
2:02
to have a dog. It actually makes me think about this micro
2:04
Bigley a quote where he was talking about kids,
2:06
but basically he said, I don't want to have kids
2:09
until I'm sure nothing
2:11
else good can happen in my
2:13
life, which which I fully agree with,
2:15
because, like you know, having a dog really
2:17
limits your ability to travel or
2:19
to go out every night, because they need you,
2:21
they need things, they need to go on walks they need to go to the
2:23
bathroom. And part of the reason why I wanted to do this episode
2:26
is because I really wanted to drill down on how a series
2:28
of a commitment dog ownership is.
2:30
So I'm hoping to dive into a little bit of that
2:32
today so people can really understand what they're
2:34
shigning up for when they get a dog. But I'm curious
2:37
about you. I know you don't have a dog now,
2:39
but did your family have dogs when you were growing up.
2:41
We are a dog family, but
2:44
the role was never more than one
2:46
at a time. But I want a dog
2:48
to call my own so so badly.
2:50
Literally everyone in my family has a dog.
2:52
But I also know two things. One,
2:55
I don't think I can afford it honestly right now. I
2:58
have grown accustomed to a particular kind of lifestyle,
3:01
and I'm also trying to be more responsible
3:03
these days. And also the travel
3:05
aspect, Like you said, I've got family out
3:08
in the suburbs who I will go spend weekends with.
3:10
I can't necessarily assume they will allow me
3:12
to bring the dog with me, but you
3:14
never know, maybe I will learn something about preparing
3:17
for an understanding dog ownership from
3:19
our guest today that I didn't consider that
3:22
may rock my world and change my mind about
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whether or not I'm ready to take this on.
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I think you will, because today we're joined
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by Eripe Bloom. Erie
3:31
is both a certified professional dog trainer
3:34
and a certified dog behavior consultant.
3:36
Erie is also the owner and director
3:38
of Training at The Sophisticated Dog,
3:41
a pet training company on the West Side of Los
3:43
Angeles, California, and has written several
3:45
articles for Chewy preparing first
3:47
time pet owners for pet and dog ownership.
3:50
Plus she is also the author of the
3:52
book Your Puppy and You, A step by
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step guide to Raising a Freakin' Awesome
3:56
Dog, and the co founder of the
3:58
Freaking Awesome Dog Project. Rid
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thank you so much for joining us. It's wonderful to
4:05
have you on the show. And I'd like to start
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off to saying that, like I have a couple of dogs
4:09
in my life, I don't own a dog neither, just Molly.
4:11
Wish I did.
4:12
But I would say fifty percent of my wife
4:14
and I as communication is dog memes on Instagram.
4:16
We'll find a cute dog, We'll send it to each other.
4:19
That's truly half of how we communicate
4:21
with each other. And so I feel like this is kind
4:23
of the way that a lot of people are exposed
4:25
to dog life. They have a friend who has dog, maybe
4:27
they see lots of cute dog content and they
4:29
think, oh my god, a dog, how
4:31
much fun would that be? And I
4:34
feel like they think about it like similar to the joy
4:36
like buying a PlayStation or a wave
4:38
runner might bring into their lives. But the reality
4:40
is getting a dog is much
4:42
more like deciding to have a
4:44
kid. So, for those of us thinking
4:47
about bringing any sort of new dog
4:49
into our lives, what are some important
4:51
factors we should assess to determine
4:53
if we are truly ready for
4:55
the commitment of dog ownership.
4:58
Matt, I just have to say I love the way
5:00
you put that, because it is a lot like bringing
5:02
a child into your life, especially in
5:05
the beginning when dogs are
5:07
a lot more needy, if
5:09
you will, and I don't mean that in a bad way, but they
5:11
really do require time, training,
5:14
effort, and all of that. So the first thing you
5:16
need to do is you need to ask yourself, realistically,
5:19
do I have time for a dog? You
5:22
know, it's a living being, it
5:24
has social needs, it has physical
5:27
needs, and you need to make sure that you're going
5:29
to have time to meet those needs. And I want to
5:31
put a quick note in here, which
5:33
is, it's nice to know that
5:35
other family members are going to be interested in having a dog,
5:38
but you can't depend on any of them to do
5:40
the work. So think
5:42
about all those little commitments. I need
5:44
to walk the dog, I need to feed the dog, I
5:46
need to train the dog. Training doesn't have
5:48
to take you know, four hours a day, but
5:50
you should at least give it thirty minutes
5:52
a day if you can, at least
5:55
at the beginning, and then you
5:57
would, in a perfect world, get the
5:59
perfect dog. But the reality
6:02
is most of us don't get the perfect dog,
6:05
and so you need to think about what if
6:07
my dog has, you know,
6:10
fear issues with strangers coming into the
6:12
home, so I can't have a dog walk or work
6:14
with them. Think about those kinds of
6:16
what ifs and make sure you're
6:18
prepared for them. But
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the big piece of it, the sort of fundamental
6:24
is dogs take time, Dogs
6:26
take effort, dogs take energy.
6:30
If you are thinking of a dog as the perfect
6:32
thing to come home to after a long, twelve
6:34
hour day, so you can just chill on the couch,
6:37
it's probably better for you to get a cat.
6:40
And I love cats, by the way, just for the record, I'm
6:42
not one of those only dogs,
6:44
only cats. I love them both. Cats
6:46
are much more capable of dealing
6:49
with being left alone for long periods.
6:51
Yeah, they don't even love it that much either,
6:54
But dogs really don't do well.
6:56
They're highly social animals. They
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really do need to have time with you. One
7:01
other category is you need to have enough money
7:03
to support a dog, and that means
7:06
money to buy them a decent quality
7:09
of food that will support their health. And
7:11
then think about if I'm going to hire
7:13
a dog walker or if I'm going to take the dog to daycare,
7:15
which is a totally acceptable option for
7:17
a lot of dogs if they're social with other
7:20
dogs, daycare can be great. How
7:22
much is the dog walker going to cost? How much is the
7:24
daycar going to cost? And your
7:27
dog should see a veterinarian at least
7:29
once a year as an adult. As
7:32
a puppy, they're going to see the vet three or four
7:34
times, possibly more depending
7:36
on certain sort of vaccination schedule
7:39
things. And you need to be
7:41
able to afford that too.
7:43
Yeah, and that's the biggest thing we want to talk about is
7:45
what does that typical monthly expenses
7:48
or a monthly budget for dog ownership
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or maybe even annual budget. What
7:53
should that look like?
7:55
So you're probably going to need at
7:57
least one hundred to two hundred dollars a month
7:59
for food. Oh wow, okay, if it's
8:01
you know, a decent diet for your dog, you
8:04
should definitely allow one thousand dollars
8:06
a year for vet bills when they
8:08
are in the prime of their life. So not when
8:10
they're a puppy, not when they're a senior, but in
8:12
that like one year
8:15
to eight or nine years of age range.
8:17
Now, just like with everything else, that doesn't
8:19
necessarily cover you in the case of
8:22
a problem, but just
8:24
as a number to start with, you might want
8:26
to consider getting health insurance for
8:29
your pet. There are veterinary
8:31
insurers out there that cover
8:34
most veterinary care. Obviously, just
8:36
like any other kind of insurance, you buy look
8:38
at the details, and then
8:41
other things are like, let's say you want to
8:43
do daycare. Well, in my neighborhood,
8:46
daycare could be fifty to seventy five dollars
8:48
a day.
8:50
It may be that where you live it's twenty you're
8:52
twenty five, southern California,
8:54
everything's more expensive, but some
8:57
of them will do it as a monthly membership. You can bring the dog
8:59
in as often as you want. Things like
9:01
that that can definitely help save the cost.
9:04
The one other tip I'll give you is the most
9:06
expensive place is not necessarily the best
9:08
place. The cheapest place is not necessarily
9:11
the worst place. But do get a sense for
9:13
what the price ranges in your area. And
9:15
then you're gonna need, you know, occasional
9:18
things like dog toys and
9:20
a leash, and if you have a puppy,
9:22
maybe you're gonna want potty pads, and
9:24
maybe you should buy a crate. And so
9:26
that's sort of startup cost.
9:29
Not to say that anybody stops buying their
9:31
dog toys after they first get
9:33
the dog. In fact, it becomes somewhat of an addiction.
9:37
So toys and supplies and
9:39
things allow a couple hundred
9:41
more dollars at least a year.
9:43
You're probably looking. If you're like
9:46
most dog owners, the next thing you know, you're buying a
9:48
new toy every week, and it's
9:50
more like four or five hundred dollars a year.
9:52
And then even if you
9:55
have the perfect dog, you should at least
9:57
go to a training class with a positive
10:00
reinforcement certified professional
10:04
dog trainer, and that's
10:06
going to cost you a couple hundred
10:08
dollars for the average sort of beginner
10:10
class. Now, if the dog
10:12
has problems, then you need to hire a professional
10:15
like me who's a certified behavior consultant
10:17
as well as a trainer. Those costs
10:19
are going to go up really fast. So
10:23
you do want to make sure that you have
10:26
a few hundred dollars over and
10:28
above your rent, your
10:31
food, your medical costs if
10:33
you really want to feel comfortable and
10:35
not wind up in a position where you
10:37
literally can't afford to keep your dog, which would
10:39
be so depressing.
10:46
If you were adding all that up just now. E
10:49
Read's total budget for dog ownership
10:51
comes out to a whole lot of dog biscuits.
10:54
Whether it's a puppy's first year, healthy
10:56
adults prime or a senior's golden
10:59
age. Taking care hair of a dog is not
11:01
cheap. Rover the dog walking company
11:04
analyze annual dog expenses at
11:06
closer to five thousand dollars a year, whereas
11:09
a recent report from USA Today found
11:11
that gen Z, the demo that spends the
11:13
most on their dogs spend about
11:15
seven grand a year on their canine
11:18
companions. MarketWatch
11:20
reported in October of twenty twenty three
11:22
that thirty eight percent of survey participants
11:24
admitted to going into debt to pay for their
11:26
pets medical expenses. Plus
11:29
we're not even including how much acquiring
11:31
your dog may cost you as well, and
11:34
that number is dependent upon where
11:36
you go to get your dog and what type of dog
11:38
you get.
11:41
A lot of what we're talking about is lifestyle and
11:43
when you think about the types of dogs. So
11:45
there's lots of different types of dogs out there, So
11:48
how can prospective dog owners determine
11:50
which breed might best suit their lifestyle?
11:53
Or like, what questions should they be asking themselves?
11:56
So I love that you've
11:58
brought this up because fit is
12:00
really important. I've met so many dogs
12:02
who would be a great dog in someone
12:05
else's house. So
12:07
first thing I'm going to say is do research,
12:09
do a lot of research. Do not trust social
12:12
media to tell you. Even
12:14
the AKC is gonna tilt it towards
12:17
sounding a little better and
12:19
not maybe pointing out some of the things that
12:21
could be problematic. So
12:24
think about what is your
12:26
lifestyle? Are you low key? Are
12:29
you high key? Are you always up and doing
12:31
stuff? Do you have kids? Because
12:33
some breeds are better with kids than others.
12:36
So those are just some of the questions you can start
12:38
with. And then everything I said about
12:40
getting a dog in the time and effort involved, multiply
12:43
it by five if you get a puppy.
12:46
It's very true.
12:47
Puppies are a lot of work. Just
12:49
house training a puppy is a twenty four hour
12:51
a day job.
12:52
I have a friend who has an Aussie Joodle and
12:55
he tells the story where like when we went to go
12:57
see the litter, you know, there's all these
12:59
differentes and they picked the one that was really
13:01
like happy and playing with all the other dogs. Are
13:03
like, that's the dog we want. But what it translated
13:06
into is they had a crazy dog in their
13:08
house running around and had all this energy.
13:10
Yeah, you know, like he's like, I love her. I wouldn't change
13:12
anything, but if I could, I would
13:14
go back to that room. And he
13:16
was like, there was one who was kind of chilling in the corner
13:19
and not I probably would have picked that one.
13:21
Is energy in the room important? Do you recommend
13:24
that people go meet the dogs?
13:26
Like?
13:26
How can they translate to lifestyle?
13:28
Yeah? Great, great question, and this
13:30
is a tough one. So the first thing I have to say
13:33
is that there's limited research
13:35
on this, but there's some research out there that even
13:38
breeders don't always know what their puppy
13:40
will be like as an adult. But
13:43
having said that, energy levels
13:46
and friendliness
13:48
versus sort of anxiety
13:50
do seem to be traits that start really
13:52
early in a puppy's life. So
13:57
i'd want someone somewhere in the middle, but
13:59
for you it might be different. The one thing to watch
14:02
out for with the really high energy and really
14:04
low energy dogs is
14:06
is that behavior happening because of fear or
14:08
anxiety?
14:09
Oh interesting, So you get those.
14:10
Dogs that stress up or stress down, and that
14:12
can give you sort of a false sense of their personality.
14:16
This is where with a really good breeder,
14:18
with a reputable breeder who's really paying
14:20
attention to their puppies, doing all their health checks
14:23
and all of those kinds of things, you can
14:25
say to them, hey, is he always that low energy
14:28
and what's his personality like? And they'll
14:30
tell you. But then
14:32
there'll be the breeder who's like, this is the last puppy
14:34
left and I want to get him out of my house.
14:35
No matter what, and they're going to tell you whatever you
14:37
want to hear.
14:38
Yeah, so be aware of that. But in
14:41
general, if you can visit
14:43
the litter more than once over the course
14:45
of the time that they're growing up, so
14:47
then you'll start to get you'll see these patterns
14:49
where you know, puppies six or eight, maybe one
14:52
day they're energetic and one day their calmer, and
14:54
that's just because they played really hard that day.
14:56
Right, Yeah, So if you can possibly
14:58
go more than once, that's really really good to
15:00
do.
15:01
Oh good to know.
15:02
I think even before you bring a dog home,
15:05
it's probably really important for people to figure
15:07
out, like what are the rules and boundaries
15:10
of their own home, Like what rules do they have for
15:12
their house that they want to make
15:14
so that they can be consistent once
15:17
the dog comes home. So like what sort of house
15:19
rules? But we want to like get straight before
15:22
we bring a dog into our homes.
15:24
So first thing I will say is this is something
15:26
that everyone needs to discuss together, and I
15:29
personally like to put it down on a piece
15:31
of paper and have everyone sign it.
15:33
Oh great, we.
15:34
All agree these are the house.
15:37
Yeah, there's no I didn't say that
15:39
later on, Yeah.
15:40
Exactly, so definitely
15:42
think about what you want as household
15:45
rules so that everyone's comfortable with it. Now, with
15:47
a puppy, no matter what the rules are, you have to
15:49
tighten them up at the beginning. And even with
15:51
an adult rescue, you have to tighten it up at the beginning.
15:53
So assume the dog is not house trained, which means
15:55
you want like baby gates or closed
15:57
doors or some other kind of barrier. You
16:00
want to set up a space where if the dog has an
16:02
accident, it's not that hard to clean.
16:05
Think about what they can chew on. I
16:07
get down on my hands and knees and crawl around and
16:09
look for things like electrical cords. I try to take
16:12
a puppy's eye's view. And
16:14
even with an adult dog, you don't know who they
16:17
are and how they're going to react to being in your
16:19
home. Have them in just
16:21
one room until you figure out that they know how to
16:23
hold it if they're an adult. If
16:25
they're puppies, you need to be aware that confinement
16:28
you set up is going to need to be in place
16:30
for at least a few months. Most
16:33
puppies are not house trained until they are at
16:35
least six months old. Some
16:38
it takes more like till nine months.
16:40
The other thing about house training is look
16:42
up again a positive reinforcement
16:44
house training plan, because if you punish
16:47
your dog for pottying in the wrong place,
16:49
often what they learn is hide
16:52
before you potty, so
16:55
then they potty where you can't see them,
16:58
or they refuse to potty with you on
17:00
walks, neither of which is a good outcome.
17:03
And be aware that you
17:05
are going to need as a family, you're going
17:07
to need to have a plan so that that puppy is getting
17:10
out on a regular basis, Like
17:12
think literally every half hour, oh,
17:14
when they're away a lot. Yeah, it doesn't
17:16
have to be every half hour when they're asleep, or they will
17:18
potty the wrong place.
17:19
Got it?
17:20
And set up like a crate or
17:22
a confinement space where they can be when you can't
17:24
take them out every half hour. If
17:26
you're going to be letting your puppy out in the yard, I just
17:28
have to tell you yards do not house trained dogs.
17:32
So don't just let your dog out
17:34
into the yard and assume they're going to know what to do
17:36
and then come in and be on empty, so to speak.
17:38
Watch them so that you know whether
17:40
or not they pottied. But I like
17:43
to puppy proof the area that that dog
17:45
is first in when the puppy comes home,
17:47
and then as I expand their
17:49
world, I puppy proof the areas they
17:51
expand into, and then I gradually
17:54
reintroduce things like, Okay, now I can
17:56
actually let's see what happens
17:58
if I leave the remote control on
18:00
the coffee table. Does the dog grab it
18:02
or not? And I'm there ready to ask them
18:04
to drop it if they grabbed it. You're
18:07
gonna want to join a training class as soon as
18:09
you can get some training under your belt.
18:11
It's really important, not just because it teaches
18:13
them what to do and what not to do, but because it also
18:16
helps you strengthen your relationship with them.
18:18
They start learning that you're fun to hang out with. They get
18:21
treats for doing the things you want them to do.
18:23
All of those things are going to really be helpful.
18:26
But more practical stuff, Like
18:29
I said, if you're going to have a confinement space,
18:31
think about what that'll be. If you get a crate,
18:33
make sure you get the right size for your puppy.
18:36
Make sure you have a food bowl and some toys,
18:39
a leash. If you have a puppy. I recommend
18:41
a very lightweight chain leash because it's
18:43
not as much fun to chew on the leash when it's
18:45
made of chain. With an adult, it
18:47
usually doesn't matter harness
18:49
to walk them on. Collars
18:52
can cause damage to their neck.
18:54
Oh interesting, if they.
18:55
Pull, I mean, if they don't pull, the collar doesn't do
18:58
any damage.
18:58
But the other thing.
19:00
About puppies as they can get hung up on their collars,
19:02
so you have to be really careful about making sure
19:04
you're watching when your puppy's wearing a collar.
19:07
It's less likely for an adult dog to get
19:09
snagged on their collar. It can happen, but
19:11
it's less likely get id. Get
19:15
the animal microchipped. Make sure
19:17
the microchip is registered to you.
19:20
And for those of us who don't know what a microchip is,
19:23
a microsip.
19:24
Oh yeah, so
19:26
a microchip is this tiny
19:29
little it's an RFID radio
19:31
frequency ID chip. It's
19:33
seriously, it's like half the
19:35
size of your pinky nail that
19:38
gets injected subdermally.
19:40
They stick it right like sort of where the
19:42
neck and the shoulders meet. Because
19:45
then what happens is if the local
19:47
shelter finds astray, they have these
19:49
wands and they wave the
19:52
wand over the back of the dog, and
19:54
the chip pops and a number
19:57
and registration like which company it
19:59
is pops up and then go to their database
20:01
and they say, oh, I see
20:03
Erite lost her dog. And then
20:05
if they can't reach me and maybe it
20:07
was read the dog was registered to rescue, They're like, let's
20:10
reach out to National English Shepherd Rescue and see
20:12
if they want their dog back. And if
20:14
nobody wants the dog back. Only at that point
20:16
do they label the dog astray and put
20:18
them out for adoption.
20:20
And they basically started doing this because it's not
20:22
on like you can get tags for your dog
20:25
on their collar, but it's not uncommon
20:27
for you know, a dog who's lost to have slipped
20:29
their collar. Yes, and then those tags
20:31
do very little good. They're still on the collar that they
20:33
slipped out of, right, And
20:36
I do recommend having idea on the tag anyway,
20:39
put a phone number where.
20:40
People can reach you. If
20:43
you want to be a little bit cagey, you
20:45
cannot put the dog's name or your own name. You just
20:47
put a phone number and write needs MEDS.
20:49
That's a popular thing to do here on the West Side
20:52
because people worry about someone kidnapping
20:54
their dog for ransom. But
20:56
if you are worried about someone knowing who
20:58
you are, just put your phone number, put needs
21:01
meds or please call and
21:03
that can be the tag.
21:07
Coming up on grownup stuff? How to adults?
21:10
What are the top five commands
21:12
that everyone should be teaching their new dog.
21:14
Eye contact is the gateway to having
21:16
a communication moment with your dog. So I
21:18
love to teach eye contact.
21:20
We'll be right back after a quick break and
21:28
we're back with more grown up stuff
21:31
how to adults.
21:35
So dogs crave routine.
21:38
Yes, So when you bring a new dog into
21:40
your house, what should a typical
21:42
like daily and nightly routine
21:45
look like?
21:47
Right, and you asked. You mentioned consistency
21:49
earlier, and I will say consistency is the
21:51
best thing you can do for your dog. Whatever
21:53
the rules are, we stick by them. So
21:56
for that puppy, your routine
21:58
in the beginning is you're going to nap times.
22:01
This is the time when I put you in your little confinement
22:03
space and you can
22:06
play with a toy in your own pen, or
22:08
you can go to sleep. But whatever it is, it does
22:10
not involve me, and
22:12
it's important for puppies to learn
22:15
independence, to learn that they can be alone
22:17
for half an hour in the world will not come to an end.
22:19
Sleep is a huge part of mental
22:22
health, and puppies need to
22:24
sleep more than sixteen hours
22:26
a day. Wow, So I brought
22:28
my puppy home. I have my house training plan, I have
22:30
my nap schedule, I have a meal schedule.
22:33
Maybe, depending on how old the dog
22:35
is and what the veterinarian has said and how much
22:37
vaccination they've gotten in all those sort
22:39
of things, maybe I'm taking the dog for a walk
22:42
once a day, or maybe they go out into the yard five
22:44
times. Well, they're going to go out more than
22:46
five times day at the beginning. But whatever
22:49
that routine is, I'm going to
22:51
lock that in and I'm going to say
22:53
this is how we always do things, at least
22:55
for the first few weeks. And
22:57
then you might see, oh, you know what, the puppy
22:59
does that need as many naps now that he's six months
23:02
old, in which case you can back off
23:04
of one of the naps. Now, if it's an adult
23:06
dog, you do the same thing, but you do it
23:08
on a slightly smaller scale. But in the
23:10
beginning, it's nice to have that routine it gives
23:12
them something to hang onto. And if
23:14
any of our listeners out there is someone
23:17
who suffers from any kind of anxiety, you
23:19
will know that routine reduces anxiety
23:21
and it reduces stress. And
23:24
when our dogs first come to our home,
23:26
their entire world has just changed.
23:29
They have no idea what is going on,
23:31
and sometimes that routine is the only thing they can
23:33
hang on to. So I'm really glad you
23:35
reminded me to talk about this map, because it's really important.
23:38
Little babies, they got to know what to expect.
23:41
They need help. Yeah,
23:47
when it comes to a puppy schedule, the American
23:49
Cannel Club also recommends taking your
23:51
puppy outside every two to four hours
23:53
and between activity changes to avoid
23:56
accidents as your house training. Something
23:58
else you may want to consider include in your
24:00
dog's regular schedule is time to socialize
24:02
with other dogs and other people. The AKC
24:05
also says that the first three months of your
24:07
dog's life will be some of the most important
24:10
and lasting for socialization. But
24:12
there's a right and wrong way to socialize
24:14
your dog and introduce new environments
24:16
and stimuli, and the wrong way
24:19
it can have detrimental impacts
24:21
on your pop's behavior. Let's
24:24
talk socialization. What is
24:26
your best advice for properly
24:29
socializing them and getting them accustomed
24:31
to other people, other animals
24:34
when we've now adjusted them to
24:36
this new environment.
24:38
So first thing I will say is,
24:40
like everything else we've talked about
24:42
today, there is individuality
24:45
to what kind of socialization is going
24:47
to work best for dog A versus
24:49
dog B, versus dog C versus dog
24:52
D. Having said that,
24:54
in a perfect world, the dog
24:56
would just go about their day and
24:58
naturally be exposed to things
25:01
like other dogs who
25:03
sniff and then walk on and
25:06
they meet people of
25:08
different sizes and colors
25:11
and shapes and haircuts
25:14
and whatever else. They
25:16
see all of those things and they
25:18
just kind of look and go, oh, so that
25:20
exists in the world, and then move on, and there's a
25:22
point in their development where they're really open
25:25
to that stuff. So you
25:27
know, you're basically allowing
25:30
the puppy and adult dogs benefit
25:32
from this too, to just experience the
25:34
world. If they're acting a little
25:37
scared and they want to move away, let
25:39
them move away. After they move
25:41
away, hand them a treat that wasn't so awful,
25:43
right, You have the ability to move away
25:45
if you think something scary and I'm going to give you a treat
25:48
because you were so brave and you looked at oh.
25:50
So like the socialization dues are,
25:54
try to get your puppy out into a variety
25:56
of different situations. However, don't
25:59
start with a crowded fair or
26:02
concert or something where fifty
26:04
new things are coming at them at once. And
26:07
whatever you're exposing them to, even if
26:09
it's just a leaf blowing across the
26:11
ground, which some dogs are like, whoa
26:14
how is that moving, let
26:17
them tell you whether they want to get closer
26:19
or not. Never drag a puppy up
26:21
to something in an effort to socialize
26:23
it, and ask your vet about
26:25
what's safe and not safe depending
26:27
on the dog's vaccination situation.
26:30
But what I will say is adolescent dogs,
26:33
especially so dogs between about
26:35
four months and nine months of age,
26:38
desperately need to play with other dogs.
26:41
It is extremely developmentally
26:43
important, and that actually ranges up until
26:45
they're about a year and a half old in fact. So
26:48
if you can find puppy pals, one
26:51
on one dog play is the natural
26:53
way for most dogs to play. They usually play
26:55
better one on one than in groups. Okay,
26:58
find them some pals find in no in space
27:00
where they can romp around and get to know each
27:02
other. Make sure that the dog you
27:04
pick to pair up with is a dog who's really
27:06
good with other dogs. And if it's a puppy that
27:09
you have in your home, the question
27:11
isn't does your dog like other dogs? The question is
27:13
does your dog like puppies?
27:17
There are a lot of different schools of thought
27:19
about where and when to socialize your dog. You'll
27:21
often hear rules about not taking your puppy
27:24
to dog parks until they've had all their shots,
27:27
or some daycares won't even allow your dog
27:29
in until they've been neutered or spade.
27:31
But a good veterinarian will be able
27:33
to guide you on best practices for how to
27:35
socialize your puppy or adult dog safely.
27:38
Which now brings us to how
27:40
do you find a good vet who will answer
27:43
all of these questions?
27:45
So the first thing I'll
27:47
say is opinions
27:50
differ on how
27:53
to do vaccination and socialization.
27:56
And what I will say is the American
27:59
Veterinaries SOCTET Society of Animal Behaviorists
28:03
has a position statement out there
28:05
that discusses how socialization
28:08
trumps vaccination. It's more important to
28:10
socialize your puppy. Your puppy
28:12
is more likely to have significant
28:14
issues later in life due to lack of socialization
28:17
than they are to die of a puppyhood disease.
28:20
However, they have all kinds of guidelines
28:23
in that position statement about how to
28:25
do things safely, so that the
28:27
puppy is being socialized safely and you're not setting
28:29
them up to get something like parvo, which I used
28:31
to work at veterinary hospitals, and parvo
28:34
is the worst thing in the world. You do not want your dog
28:36
to get it. So the
28:38
vaccines come in a
28:41
series because of certain things having
28:43
to do with immunity and how immunity builds
28:45
in young animals. But most
28:48
veterinarians that I know are
28:50
comfortable having the dog do safe
28:53
types of socialization once they've gotten
28:55
two to three sets of all of the shots.
28:57
But we also need to balance that
29:00
with the what if your dog is so scared of the world
29:02
that they will never go outside and they can't be
29:04
comfortable around other dogs and other people. So
29:06
that statement from the AVSAB is
29:09
a nice place to sort of start,
29:11
And then you talk to your veterinarian. How
29:13
do you pick a veterinarian look for someone
29:16
first of all, who maybe people you
29:18
know are going to and they're having good experiences.
29:21
Look for someone who does continuing education,
29:24
because that's going to tell you that they care about
29:26
making sure that they're up to date on everything. Look
29:30
for someone who when
29:33
you walk in with your puppy, your
29:35
puppy likes them and the puppy
29:37
likes the staff. So,
29:40
for example, my veterinarian,
29:42
the first dog I brought to that veterinarian, he's
29:46
six three sixty four. This veterinarians super
29:48
tall. Wow, he walks into the
29:50
exam room. My dog, sixty pound adult
29:53
rescue dog sat down
29:55
on the floor with my dog, ah,
29:58
so he wouldn't be so tall, all scary
30:01
me and my dog was like you, I
30:03
can talk to you. I understand.
30:06
And they had a great relationship right from there.
30:09
So do look for a veterinarian who makes your
30:11
dog feel comfortable because that's important.
30:13
And then it doesn't hurt to do just a little
30:16
bit of like looking around on places like yelp
30:18
or next door or whatever you can ask
30:20
for recommendations. Just bear in mind
30:22
that one disgruntled person can
30:25
make it seem like someone's really awful when they're actually
30:27
a great veterinarian and that person
30:29
just had a bad experience.
30:31
So we just want to know about like the basic
30:33
commands that every puppy should
30:35
know. Like what are like the top five
30:38
commands that everyone should be teaching there their
30:40
new dog.
30:41
Okay, so here are the top things
30:43
I teach every client. I like
30:45
dogs to give eye contact. It's
30:48
good to have a signal that says, hey, will you look at
30:50
me please?
30:50
Fifi.
30:51
But it's also nice when you're doing anything
30:53
with your dog if your dog looks up at you, to
30:56
praise and reinforce that because
30:58
that connection with you is going to
31:00
help in everything you do. That
31:03
eye contact is the gateway, I guess
31:05
to having a communication moment with your dog.
31:07
So I love to teach eye contact. I
31:09
like to teach a dog to lie down, because
31:12
when a dog is lying down, they're usually not underfoot
31:15
and making trouble, So down
31:17
is an important signal that I teach. I like to
31:19
teach them to settle on an object
31:21
in a down leashwalking,
31:24
which means walking as politely
31:26
as possible so that I'm
31:29
not losing my shoulders or getting yanked
31:31
down the street or anything like that. But at
31:34
the same time, with
31:36
the leashwalking, I don't need the dog
31:38
to be in heel position all the time. So what leashwalking
31:41
to me means is you don't pull
31:43
me. Yeah, drop it
31:45
because that is a safety signal.
31:48
Yeah, and leave
31:50
it.
31:50
Because it teaches them not to get into trouble
31:53
in the first place. All
31:55
of these things can be taught through positive reinforcement
31:58
very effectively. And
32:00
those are like the core skills. All
32:02
the other stuff like sit and heal
32:05
and wait or
32:07
stay five give me Paul,
32:10
all of those things, those are bonus. But
32:12
I have clients that I teach way more advanced stuff
32:14
than that. But if you come to
32:16
me and you've got a new puppy, that's where we're
32:18
putting our focus first.
32:19
That makes sense. Yeah, And for a final
32:22
question, what would you say are
32:24
the most common mistakes or the most common
32:26
mistake that new dog owners
32:29
make that we should all be really focusing
32:31
on avoiding.
32:32
All right, So, the most common mistake
32:34
and the worst mistake that we make with
32:36
our dogs, especially as new dog owners,
32:39
is assuming that they understand English
32:42
and understand what it's like
32:44
to be a human, neither of which
32:46
they have any idea about dogs.
32:49
Are born knowing that the entire world
32:51
is a bathroom, and that anything
32:54
that they want to put in their teeth is fine as long as
32:56
it doesn't cut them or taste bad, and
33:00
that sniffing each other's private
33:02
parts is good social
33:05
behavior, and
33:07
that you know if you see that someone is mad,
33:09
the best thing to do is to look away. People think
33:11
dogs are giving them a guilty look. They're
33:13
not. They know you're mad, and they're like, oh, I don't want you to be
33:15
mad anymore. I'm going to look away. So
33:18
what you want to do, is a new dog
33:20
owner, is you want to
33:22
study up on canine body language
33:25
so that you will understand when your dog is saying I'm
33:27
nervous, can you give me some space? And they're not
33:29
saying I know I was a bad dog, because
33:32
most of the time they have no idea they were a bad dog.
33:35
They were just doing a normal doggie thing.
33:38
Don't expect a Disney dog. Don't
33:40
expect the dog you see on TikTok who does
33:42
everything perfectly, because that is
33:44
a ten seconds snippet of that dog's
33:47
life. You can be perfect for
33:49
ten seconds too.
33:50
I bet you know.
33:52
You can't just talk to them and expect them to
33:54
listen and understand everything A and
33:56
B when they talk to you. You
33:58
should take the time to listen too.
34:01
And the last thing, we want our listeners
34:03
to know where can they find you and learn
34:05
more about what you do.
34:06
Thank you for asking. So my company
34:09
is called the Sophisticated
34:11
Dog. My website is
34:14
the Sophisticateddog
34:17
dot com and you can find out where
34:19
I'm speaking and all kinds of other things
34:21
there. If you are a pet professional,
34:23
you can also check out the other company I'm involved
34:26
in, which is called the Freakin Awesome Dog
34:28
Project, and we are at Awesomedog
34:31
project dot com and we published
34:33
a book on raising a great puppy.
34:36
It's called Your Puppy and You a
34:38
step by step guide to raising a freakin
34:40
Awesome dog. So for those of you with new
34:42
dogs, you might want to check it out.
34:44
Eriet Bloom, thank you so much for
34:46
joining us. This was beyond
34:49
informational and helpful.
34:51
Well, thank you so much for having me. It's been
34:53
a great pleasure and I hope
34:55
we get to do this again.
35:02
Erie, you have shared some very
35:05
sage guidance about getting and raising
35:07
a dog. I can say for certain
35:09
that a dog is not in the
35:11
budget for me right now, but I
35:13
think the discipline of creating a routine with a
35:15
dog is very possible for me. Here's
35:18
what else I've learned from our conversation about
35:20
dog ownership. When you're
35:22
putting together a budget for a dog, do
35:24
some research on all the things you'll need,
35:27
including dog walkers, docky daycare,
35:29
and think about how often you'll actually need
35:31
it. If you're getting a dog with a partner or
35:33
family members are involved, create
35:35
a contract of what each person promises
35:38
to do and agreed upon household
35:40
rules for the dog, and have everyone
35:43
sign it before the dog comes
35:45
home. Get down to the level of the dog and look
35:47
around your house from their pov figure
35:50
out what may be too much temptation, especially
35:53
for a puppy. This is going to
35:55
help you puppy proof your home.
35:58
Be prepared to be strict with your rules
36:01
and puppy proofing from the start. It's
36:03
best to follow a positive reinforcement
36:06
house training plan. Otherwise your
36:08
dog may hide when they do their business
36:10
in your home and no one wants to
36:13
go searching for the puppy or adult dog.
36:15
Accident when you're walking
36:17
your puppy or adult dog Erite recommends
36:19
a harness over a collar. If your dog
36:22
pulls on walks, a collar can
36:24
be super damaging to them. Plus, puppies
36:26
can accidentally get hung up on their collars. Get
36:29
your dog tags and microchipped as
36:31
soon as possible. Routine
36:33
is super important to training and getting your
36:35
dog acclimated to their new home and
36:38
life. Routine reduces anxiety
36:41
and stress. Schedule
36:43
nap times for your puppies because apparently
36:45
they need sixteen hours of sleep
36:47
a day. This will decrease
36:50
as they get older, though, and it'll teach
36:52
them how to behave independently from you.
36:55
When you're working on socializing your dog, let
36:57
them explore things in their own comfort and tell
36:59
you how they want to see things.
37:02
Never drag them into a scenario they're
37:04
resisting. Finally, do some reading
37:06
about what your dog is trying to communicate with their
37:09
body language. Apparently,
37:11
the AKC says that looking lovingly
37:13
into your dog's eyes can trigger a release
37:15
of oxytocin in your dog, which
37:18
is the same hormone we release when
37:20
we look at our children. I just
37:22
love this for everyone. Honestly.
37:24
The eye contact thing reminds me
37:26
of cooperative eye hypothesis.
37:29
Which is the idea that we are
37:32
aware and sensitive to the eye movement
37:34
of others. And what's really
37:36
interesting is that researchers have theorized
37:39
that because humans have more
37:41
visible eye movements due to the
37:43
larger whites of their eyes, it
37:46
has allowed us to communicate nonverbally
37:49
in hunting situations, not only with
37:51
other humans, but with early dogs
37:53
as well. And there's this theory that
37:56
this could have been why early humans outlived
37:59
Neanderthals. I read about
38:01
it years ago in an Atlantic article
38:03
about this and that modern
38:06
dogs can actually follow eye movements
38:09
just as well as human babies. So
38:12
you know, look at your dogs because they
38:14
are looking at you.
38:16
I totally agree with you. You know, you hear like sit,
38:18
stay, roll over, whatever, But eye
38:20
contact. I've never even heard that even
38:23
once. And I love what I read said about like that
38:25
being like the baseline of communication,
38:27
that if your dog is looking at you, they're listening
38:30
to you and they can follow through with other commands.
38:32
So I think that that is huge And
38:34
am I ready for a dog? This
38:36
episode confirmed everything that I thought about dog,
38:38
which is they are very difficult, they are very time
38:41
intensive, they are cost intensive, and
38:43
it's just not a joke to get into, so
38:45
definitely something to consider if you're ready for it
38:48
before taking the plunge. And I do think that both
38:50
of us will get there one day, but maybe
38:52
let's go on a trip first.
38:54
Yeah, I agree. Honestly, I
38:56
do get out of bed every morning knowing that one day,
38:59
some day I will have a dog, and
39:02
that's the hope I need to continue in this world,
39:05
honestly. But as
39:07
we wait for that day, and as we start planning our trips.
39:09
In the meantime, let's tell everyone
39:11
what is up next on grown up
39:13
stuff how to Adults.
39:15
On the next episode, we are learning about laundry.
39:17
Are you using too much detergent or overstuffing
39:20
your washer. We'll also talk about how to
39:22
clean and care for your washing machine and dryer
39:24
so they don't make your clothes dirtier.
39:26
Plus we'll find out why you should never
39:29
use dryer sheets.
39:30
There was a period in my life where I was super
39:33
into cleaning tiktoks, and I watched
39:35
one where this person was taking
39:37
apart their washer and revealed all of
39:40
the little like nooks and crannies that
39:42
contained just like copious amounts
39:44
of mold and mildy.
39:47
That was just like building up inside the washer,
39:50
and it was honestly, it
39:52
was terrifying.
39:53
Okay, stop that stood up. That's funny.
39:56
So we'll find out if your washer is
39:58
doing the same thing in two weeks on then episode
40:00
of grown Up Stuff? How Do I Alt ed?
40:02
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40:04
it never hurts to do your homework.
40:07
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