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I'm excited to have Dr Kizzy
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Parks . Kizzy has been an entrepreneur
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since a very young age , reselling
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golf balls for cash . She later earned
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a PhD and established her company
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, kpc . Kizzy is a self-made multi-millionaire
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. She's been awarded more than $75
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million in government contracts . She also
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has a new company , govcon Winners , and
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she mentors entrepreneurs through GovCon
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Winners to secure government contracts
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. She's helped people secure $3
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million in government contracts in just six
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months , which is pretty cool when you
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grow in business , especially
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as a woman , as someone that really
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has big aspirations , there's not many
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mentors to look up to . I consider her
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a mentor and like a big sister . So
0:43
give it up for Kizzy , put it hard in the audience for
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Kizzy . I see all of you . I appreciate all of you
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. So , kizzy , thank you for being here today . You
0:49
know I love you . What's up ?
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Well , thank you , that was such an endearing
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and kind introduction
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. I thank you enough . I
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love you too , and I also
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want to point out you know mentorship
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works both ways , so you
1:05
also mentor me , and that's
1:07
what's great in this space .
1:09
Let's talk about you selling golf
1:11
balls as a child . Because
1:13
you and I are different in that way , I
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kind of became an entrepreneur later by
1:17
accident . Share a little bit about that
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.
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I lived in Good Old Danville
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, Illinois , which
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was it
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is . It's a tiny town and
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my dad was an industrial
1:33
engineer . So we lived in this rural community
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and I always wanted
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funnions and nutty bars and
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there was , like this corner store and
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while I had an allowance , it's like how
1:46
am I going to get these funnions and nutty bars
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when I don't really have an income ? So
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my parents were always very encouraging
1:53
around my odd endeavors and
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so my friend lived
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on this alley and it
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was littered with golf balls and
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my grandmother golfed . So
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I knew that some
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golf balls were worth way more than
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the others . So I would just collect
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them , I would clean them , I would
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save the really nice ones for my grandmother
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, because when they found out I was doing
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this , she was all about oh , I want this one
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.
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And save this one , I mean . It's creative
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, though , and it's cool that your grandma supported
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you .
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Yeah , it's definitely creative .
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So how did you go from someone
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that has a PhD that was
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in more of the corporate space
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to an entrepreneur that built
2:36
a company that secures government
2:38
contracts ? How did that happen ? Because most
2:40
people that have a PhD that
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are in corporate , they kind of stay there
2:44
forever .
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There was this moment of
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wow . I
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came this far and I
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was in the middle of this interview with a company
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and they flew me out , which was like a big
2:56
deal . I'd never experienced that before
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and I thought , oh my goodness , this is my
3:01
adult job . I'm getting flown out
3:03
, I'm getting interviewed , I'm going to see my office
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. Like I was super excited and
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I toured the place
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and thought I've come far
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and I'm going to have to share
3:16
a desk with someone . And
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I could tell during
3:21
the interview the people were not very happy
3:23
.
3:25
Oh , like the people that worked there were just
3:27
not very happy to work there .
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They weren't very happy , like it
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was really clear that this
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was the type of company where
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you came in , maybe you did a couple
3:38
of years and then you left unless
3:40
you really wanted to stay . And the individuals
3:43
who I met with , they
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gave the vibe of they were going in
3:47
, getting some experience and moving on
3:49
to something else
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. And I remember sharing this
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with my friend and she's like wow , you know , you've
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put in all this work , you've spent all
3:58
this money and you're going to get a job or you're
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sharing a desk . Now , not that there's anything
4:02
wrong with sharing a desk . It was just
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indicative of their culture
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, of how they treated people , where
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they thought it was OK just to put
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a ton of people in
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these shared spaces when this
4:16
is a very successful organization
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. Pretty much most of us know who they are . I'm
4:21
not going to say their name and
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I just say this is not a fit
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. So I started praying not to get the job .
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Wow , when your dream job turns
4:30
into your nightmare .
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I remember the recruiter called
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and I was just like , please , I don't want this job , I don't
4:36
want this job . And I didn't pick up the phone and
4:38
thankfully I didn't get the job . I
4:40
had some backups . There was a university
4:43
where I was
4:45
a 1099 . And
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they had expressed interest in hiring
4:50
me . There was a company out
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of Denver who also
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provided a job offer and
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it just not . Neither of them felt
4:59
right . But I didn't think I was going to
5:01
be an entrepreneur right out of grad school either
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. I just knew
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I had to pay my bills
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. I wanted this thing , this
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job , right Because we put there's
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nothing wrong with the job , but we put it on this pedestal . You
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get a degree , you get a job . Ok
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, I wanted to go up the life ladder , get married
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, have kids , have this job .
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And then how did you go from
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that to the business ? How
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long did it take for you to start the
5:27
business ?
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It was immediate , it was right before I
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became Dr Parks , so thankfully
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I had some experience as a
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1099 , a gig worker
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, and during a kind
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of an internship I
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was asked if I wanted to stay
5:44
on as a government contractor
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. Really had no idea what that even entailed
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, I just knew that at
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that organization they were military
5:53
members , people with the Coast Guard
5:55
, government employees and this
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thing called government contractors . I
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had no idea what it meant , and
6:02
so all I knew was this was an opportunity
6:05
to give me what
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I was looking for , and that was to
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create my own journey .
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I love that . So , basically , you
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did such a good job as a gig
6:16
worker that your expertise
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or your work ethic something about you
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was exceptional and they asked you to stay on
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. Yes , okay
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, how long did it take for
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you to get your first client
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in KPC , and
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where did that come from ? Did that come from networking
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or what .
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And I want to clarify something as I jump
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into this , because some people have said well
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, this is easy . You , immediately
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in an internship , you got a government
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subcontract . Well
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, I want to share something , because it's
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about what you make of an open door . That's
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what it's about . I was not the only
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person that they offered this
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to . I am the only one who grew a
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business to have over a hundred team members
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. So , right
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out the gate , before I even
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had a corporation
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, I received a contract
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that was a little less than six figures being
7:16
in mind . I was involved in little gig
7:18
opportunities . I was a 1099
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for a very well-known private college
7:23
. I just always operated under
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a sole proprietorship . I had
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no idea that I should have had an LLC
7:30
or an S corp during that time . I
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had no idea . So I
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formed KPC . It
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was in May of
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08 . Is when I formed
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KPC , and so at
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that time I
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realized if I'm going
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to really make this work , I
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had to think bigger . I had to
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focus on my mindset , because , if
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not , I noticed that there
7:58
were many people who were labeled as subcontractors
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and their goal was to be hired
8:04
by the employer or just
8:06
make enough money to get
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by and again , that's great
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for them . That wasn't
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my goal then . I just knew I
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wanted something bigger . I didn't know what that
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entailed . I didn't have a business planned
8:19
or some relationship with
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a bank . I didn't have a
8:23
corporation then .
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So , as I , when
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I've made that decision to step out
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and say , hey , I'm going to make this work , that's
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when I started getting speaking
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gigs and then the speaking gigs
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added to your credibility I'm assuming
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right and then got people's attention
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and , knowing you , you were
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able to build the relationships once you
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got the attention .
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Right , because often I found
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it so interesting it was the
8:53
one space as an
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entrepreneur had nothing
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to do with federal government . This was a comment
9:00
that would come up again and again and
9:02
again . Oh wow , you're
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so young . There
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were always a lot of age comments
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, sometimes in tons of age , interesting
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age remarks , and at that
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time I didn't understand it . I just was like
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oh , I'm Dr Parks , I'm involved
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in diversity and inclusion . I'm
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just , I was so naive , I didn't really understand
9:23
what was going on . So what happened
9:25
was getting these speaking
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engagements came from putting myself
9:29
out there volunteering . Oh
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, you're looking for something to speak at this conference
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on diversity , I'll do it . I
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had no problem paying for my own travel
9:38
. Oh , wow , this army
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reserves . They want me to speak
9:43
at their annual conference . Okay , great
9:45
, I don't know what that really entails
9:47
. I've never done anything like that , but I will
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figure it out . I knew I
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was able to do it . Going back to mindset
9:54
, it was just figuring it out
9:56
because these opportunities
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, even to this day , are
10:00
still paying off . These weren't just
10:02
one and done . Hey , I received
10:04
some money , I can check the box . These
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turned into long-term relationships
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and , in some instances , turned into
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million dollar contracts .
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So let's talk about what the benefits are
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of securing government contracts
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for business owners . What
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are the benefits and then what are the signs
10:23
that maybe you should take advantage of this
10:25
space ?
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If you are concerned
10:28
about having regular revenue . So
10:30
if you have irregular revenue , you're like
10:32
man February was amazing
10:34
, july not so much
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. The federal government helps
10:39
with that because often the
10:41
contracts are anywhere from
10:44
two years
10:46
. There are some contract vehicles that
10:48
last 10 years in duration , so
10:51
it really helps you . So you have ongoing
10:53
revenue . You have a continuity offer
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. So in
10:58
some continuity may mean a
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subscription , something of that
11:02
nature . In the federal government , the continuity
11:04
is by having multi-year contracts
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. So then you know oh , every
11:09
year , I mean every month , I will
11:11
receive , let's say , $50,000 to
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invoice . You have several opportunities
11:16
like that . Then you have
11:18
this dependable , consistent revenue
11:21
. The second thing about the federal government
11:23
is they buy everything . They
11:25
buy everything from leadership
11:27
training , different training , they
11:30
buy printed materials , they
11:32
purchase products and services
11:34
like medical products , drum
11:37
sets , they buy graphic design . They
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spend well over $500
11:44
billion in products and services
11:46
. So then that often leads to
11:48
why me ? Why would they buy from me
11:50
? Why wouldn't they just buy from somebody
11:53
else ? Because they have a
11:55
mandate to set aside 25%
11:58
of their sales with small
12:00
businesses and , more than likely , everyone
12:02
listening to this . You're part
12:04
of what's considered a small business , and
12:06
a small business doesn't mean it's you or
12:09
you every now and again . A
12:11
small business in
12:14
some areas means a company doing
12:16
$30 , $40 million
12:18
a year . So that's the other beautiful part
12:20
about government contracting is they
12:23
want you to grow , they want to use small business
12:25
owners , and so if you're
12:27
interested in offering
12:29
something to the government , the first step
12:31
this is free you go to Sam
12:34
, like Uncle Sam Samgov
12:36
, and you
12:38
go and you register . It doesn't matter where
12:40
you live in the world . If you live outside
12:42
of the United States , you need an N , as
12:44
in Nancy N cage . Otherwise
12:47
you go into Samgov
12:50
and you register . They love
12:52
purchasing from us because
12:54
when you purchase from a
12:56
small business , they get us . They're
12:59
not getting 10 levels
13:01
down , they're not just
13:03
another client . They
13:06
know that whenever a small
13:08
business receives a contract with a government
13:10
agency , we look
13:13
at it like this is a golden
13:15
egg . This
13:17
is very rare , very valuable . We
13:19
have to just really
13:22
make sure we go
13:24
above and beyond for them . So they
13:26
love that with us .
13:28
I love that and you teach people how
13:30
to do this right , because I don't want people
13:32
to just go and start
13:35
bidding by themselves or something
13:37
, because there's probably you
13:39
know , I think with government contracting , it
13:42
would be good to have a long term
13:45
mindset and to do
13:47
the foundational stuff correctly
13:50
. It may take six months or a year
13:52
, but after that you could
13:54
secure contracts that are 10 years
13:56
or five years and multiple
13:58
ones . Correct , correct
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.
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Because what's key is you have to have a strategy
14:03
Right . It's like
14:05
GPS If
14:08
you're going to drive across the country
14:10
, you need a
14:12
map , you need something
14:14
to inform you . Here's
14:17
where you go , here's where you avoid , and
14:19
the beauty of GPS is
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real time . The same
14:24
thing happens with my strategies and
14:26
with what I teach at Govcom winners , because
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I'm actually in it . I
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have several federal , government
14:33
and state-level contracting
14:35
companies . I'm actively bidding
14:38
. I have employees , I have
14:40
contractors . I'm
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with the same things that you are
14:44
dealing with . I'm able to
14:46
show you and help
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you understand . Here are
14:50
the things that you need to do . The biggest
14:52
one involves the mindset . It's
14:56
number one because the belief
14:58
must be . The government wants
15:00
to buy what I offer .
15:05
What we offer could be . Is
15:07
it only products or is it also
15:09
services ? Then
15:11
could you tailor
15:13
what you offer to what
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the demand is . Talk
15:19
about that a little bit .
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Yes , when I first
15:22
started out , I
15:24
fell into this diversity and
15:26
inclusion arena . At
15:29
now Patrick Space Force In
15:31
Central Florida , I just became
15:34
the diversity expert . I
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spoke at all the places . I even
15:38
have a book . I became
15:40
that person . What
15:43
I ended up doing ? I've partnered
15:45
with a company that has
15:47
private sector clients
15:49
. Then I
15:52
had , like TIA , kreff , wendy's
15:54
, different hospitals as clients
15:57
, all under my S-Corp . In
15:59
addition to providing diversity
16:01
and inclusion strategy training
16:04
, anything and everything . I
16:06
helped on a diversity and inclusion conference
16:09
in Reno , nevada , for
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I think there were maybe 500 people there . Then
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a couple years went by and
16:17
I started to take notice of the landscape
16:20
and I said the following what
16:22
do I have to offer next ? I've
16:25
offered all of these products
16:27
and services . If I'm going
16:30
to continue in this diversity space
16:32
, there's going to come a
16:34
time I'm going to hit a ceiling . There's going to be a new
16:36
person or a new thing . Is
16:38
this really where I want to go ? I
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had mentors sharing that the
16:43
way to really grow
16:45
on the services side of
16:47
federal government contracting was
16:50
on staffing , on
16:53
having you being
16:55
paid for people to do the thing
16:57
. The thing could be graphic designs , it could be
16:59
admin , it could be creating ID cards
17:01
. It could be checking people into a building
17:04
. I really resisted that . I
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really had a negative belief around
17:08
that . My belief lead was pretty strong
17:10
. So as I get-
17:13
.
17:13
What was the belief ? You just wanted to stick
17:16
with what you knew , or yeah
17:18
.
17:18
Okay , I did . I want to stick with what
17:20
I knew . I looked down
17:23
upon staffing like , oh
17:25
, staffing . I was so arrogant it's embarrassing
17:28
to think back to this . It really
17:30
is because I was like what is wrong with you ? I
17:33
was so arrogant about it . I just thought
17:35
like , oh , I'm Dr Park , how
17:37
am I going to do staffing ? It's
17:40
crazy because I love staffing now . But
17:42
I just thought like , no , that's not what I
17:44
want . One of the main reasons for it
17:47
is because I've always been conditioned
17:50
to be this expert , to
17:53
be this expert like , okay , you're
17:56
getting a PhD , oh , you're in diversity , inclusion . Oh
17:58
, you know statistics , oh , you know research . So
18:01
my mentality was like , oh , staffing
18:03
isn't really expertise , that's
18:05
so different . And I didn't understand
18:08
business . I
18:10
didn't really . I didn't understand at that time
18:12
Because , remember , I just went directly from
18:14
grad school to
18:16
boom , I have an S-corp and
18:19
there was phone a friend . I didn't
18:21
have anyone to ask these
18:23
questions with . Who were my to , who
18:25
are my peers , right ? So
18:28
finally , as I took notice of
18:30
the landscape , I said , okay , I have
18:32
to make a change because , yeah , I
18:34
love training and development , but does it have
18:36
to be diversity ? No , it can be anything
18:39
. And once I made that
18:41
decision , the energy went
18:44
with me and we ended up getting
18:46
our very first $4
18:49
million sole source contract , because
18:51
the federal government has a program
18:53
where you can get sole source
18:56
contracts up to $4 million
18:58
and that contract and
19:00
we still have it to this day , 10 years later
19:02
. It is for training
19:05
and development . It's just for
19:08
food inspectors and different
19:11
people and the topic
19:13
is different , but the
19:15
concept is the same and I'm not involved
19:17
in doing the work .
19:18
Well , I was just going to touch on that Was part
19:20
of that belief . Like that you
19:22
had to do it , you had
19:24
to be the one doing the training . Like you
19:26
had to be the one on
19:28
the stage , you had to
19:30
be the one going in there and training the teams
19:32
, because staffing is . You're
19:34
not the one doing it anymore .
19:38
It was . I was so afraid
19:41
and I thought , oh
19:44
, how am I going to make
19:46
sure that they're doing what they're supposed to do
19:48
? I'm not there . I had
19:50
that again . Another limiting belief
19:52
. Another belief led . I thought how
19:54
can they really do it as well as I
19:56
can do it ? And who am
19:58
I going to be able to find to do this ? And
20:01
while I had other team members
20:03
helping me the
20:06
only employee at the time , so
20:09
other people who would help , it was just 1099
20:13
as needed . And
20:15
with this it was like , oh my goodness
20:17
, I'm relying on
20:19
these people to
20:21
really help grow this company
20:23
.
20:24
So you had to become a leader and
20:26
learn how to basically
20:29
match the best set of skills
20:31
and I bet personality weighs
20:33
in , because if you have three people with the same
20:35
skills for that fulfillment
20:38
of that training , there's probably one that will
20:40
get along better with the management of that company
20:43
or whatever . So you really became
20:45
kind of like matchmaking
20:48
the skills set experts
20:50
with the companies that needed them .
20:53
Definitely .
20:54
And what was the learning curve ? How long did it take
20:56
you to become a great leader ?
20:59
Oh man , it's a . It's a work in progress
21:01
. I mean , I'm way better
21:03
than I was 15 years
21:05
ago , but the thing is
21:07
working on your mindset
21:09
, working on your leadership skills . It's
21:12
not a check the box . You're
21:14
continuously nurturing them
21:16
because the needs there
21:19
are the basic needs . You look at Maslow's
21:21
hierarchy of needs , but there
21:24
are also needs that may
21:26
change . There's some needs that are more important
21:28
to some people , that are less important to others
21:30
, and so I'm constantly
21:33
learning and growing as a leader
21:36
and making sure that my team
21:38
is doing the same and hiring
21:40
accordingly , definitely
21:43
based on our current goals . Because , for instance
21:45
, our current goal is to take KPC
21:47
to be a hundred million dollar a year
21:50
company that takes a way different
21:52
skill set and a different mindset
21:54
than when I started the company 15
21:56
years ago and didn't even know what it meant to send
21:58
in an invoice .
22:00
Yeah , and I have to say you know
22:02
, kizzie and I , what we've known each other
22:04
for three years now . Three
22:07
years , kizzie , something
22:10
like that . Yeah , and I
22:13
think that you're one of the only
22:15
people since three years
22:17
ago from LinkedIn that has
22:20
continued to grow in
22:22
their business and in their brand . That
22:24
I know , because most people
22:26
have kind of either stagnated or
22:28
fallen off completely .
22:34
So it's easy to stop
22:36
, it's
22:38
easy to rest on your laurels , it's
22:41
easy to look at your bank account or your investment
22:43
or your 401k or your
22:45
real estate portfolio or you
22:47
know , your ability to go on 2.5
22:49
vacations and say , okay
22:52
, this is great . And
22:54
I did that for a really long time . And
22:59
one of the reasons I shifted and I'm not just saying
23:01
this because I'm here , I've
23:03
said this publicly on my platforms
23:06
is Shanae is she would
23:08
just the way , she would coach
23:11
me and she would say you know , you need to get out there and post videos
23:13
, you need to get a newsletter , you need to do and it's like she's
23:15
right because I'm there's so much more I want
23:18
in life and
23:24
in order to accomplish that , have to put in the
23:26
action . I know I didn't come this far for this life . It's this life Amazing . Of
23:28
course , every single one of our lives is amazing . We're
23:30
all here today . This
23:32
is all a blessing , but it's about taking things to the next level
23:35
, because I truly I just want to help people . I
23:39
want people to know . I want every one of you to know government contracting is
23:41
for you . The bureaucracy you hear about is
23:43
really not that bad the
23:47
myths that are out
23:49
there . It's just to keep you away . If
23:53
that was the case , then how was I , how was I able to build
23:56
a business when I just went out from grad school ? I
23:58
didn't serve in the military . I didn't work for the
24:00
government . I don't have any , really no , there is
24:02
no husband that works for the government . I
24:05
love it . Now this is so powerful and we'll take
24:08
questions and about give us about another story .
24:13
We'll take questions and about . Give
24:15
us about another five to 10 minutes . If
24:17
you're loving the room , put a heart in the audience . I want
24:19
to know who you are . We love
24:21
all the 200 of you that are in here
24:23
. Click the share button at the bottom
24:25
of the events so that you could
24:27
share it with your network , because LinkedIn does not
24:30
store the recordings and
24:32
it will give someone in your network the
24:34
opportunity to also listen in
24:36
and maybe come and raise their hand . So
24:38
, uh , kizzy , I
24:40
want to ask you two questions and
24:42
if you're interested in
24:44
all this government contracting stuff , you
24:47
know , do message Kizzy , but also don't
24:49
be afraid to , when we do raise our hands
24:51
, to just ask about mindset . She
24:53
has a very successful business . She's
24:56
continuing to grow both in
24:58
her brand and in her business and that kind
25:00
of . You know that goes beyond
25:02
government contracting too . So
25:04
there are a lot of entrepreneurs
25:07
, business owners , out there . They want
25:09
to do the video thing , they want to do the
25:11
social media thing , they want to go live
25:13
. But they say , kizzy , you know I
25:15
don't have time for that , I'm running my business
25:17
. What would you say to them ?
25:22
I mean I'm going to say you
25:24
got a minute of time , but hear me out
25:26
, because we say that a lot like oh , I want to go to
25:28
the gym , you don't make the time . I want to spend
25:31
more time with family . I want to make the time . I'm
25:33
ready to talk , I got it , but hear
25:35
me out . What
25:37
is your goal ? What kind of life do you want ? So
25:42
, for instance , there's a gentleman we're
25:44
in a coaching program together and
25:47
he talked about that . He
25:52
missed an event with his child . I
25:55
could tell that it really tore him up and
25:58
his goal was to spend
26:00
more time with his family and to go camping
26:03
and do all these things . And
26:05
in that program the
26:07
coach was like okay , well , in
26:09
order for you to do this , you
26:12
are going to have to take yourself
26:15
out of being in the business
26:17
. You're going to have to bring somebody else
26:19
on , and so
26:22
he has an . Over the weekend I received
26:24
a picture of him and his family all happy
26:26
on this hike that they are on . I mean it was and
26:28
I think they're gone for almost three weeks , which is
26:30
amazing because he had never done anything like
26:33
that before Now . While some
26:35
of you may not be in the financial position where
26:37
you can hire somebody . What
26:39
can you do ? That's the question . What
26:41
are you able to do ? Is it that
26:44
, once a week , you're
26:46
able to devote maybe two
26:48
hours to creating content ? Is
26:51
it that , instead of creating content
26:53
and worrying about someone
26:55
editing , maybe you go
26:57
live three times
26:59
a week ? I mean just here on LinkedIn ? It's
27:02
fairly easy to go live
27:04
. Maybe you decide well , I want
27:06
to do both , okay . Well , there are people
27:08
out there who will even edit your videos
27:10
for you at a very nominal
27:13
cost on a variety of platforms
27:15
, because , at the end of the day , being
27:18
social , let me share with you what this brings for
27:20
you . It is going
27:22
to exceed your wildest dreams . The gentleman
27:24
I just spoke about he is
27:26
involved in selling office furniture , office
27:30
chairs , refurbished chairs , office
27:32
furniture . He has built a
27:34
eight-figure business selling
27:37
office chairs and office furniture
27:39
, largely because of his YouTube channel
27:41
. And
27:43
so Wait , repeat that
27:45
, repeat that . I know he
27:48
started out on YouTube . He
27:50
was just like oh , I just wanted to get
27:53
some attention from and
27:59
it's just , I mean regular office chairs
28:01
and refurbished office chairs . And he said
28:03
next thing you know he's like
28:05
I'm doing millions and millions and millions
28:07
in business because
28:10
they would feature a chair . People
28:12
want to buy it or he then became
28:14
an expert . He
28:17
had this unlimited mindset and
28:20
so and he also approaches
28:22
it different just like each and
28:24
every one of us we all have our own personalities
28:27
. There's enough space for
28:29
every one of us . But what he
28:31
did is he made it a priority , so
28:34
he put the content on there
28:36
. Now he's to the point where other people
28:38
are often in the videos , but nonetheless
28:41
, it's about his intent
28:43
of hey , I just want to generate some business has
28:46
turned into this eight-figure
28:49
business and he continues
28:51
to grow his
28:53
channel and the same thing happens . I
28:55
know what's happened for me . I posted
28:57
and that's how I connected with Shanae . I
29:00
posted regularly on LinkedIn
29:02
and that helped me twofold
29:04
. One , I got the attention
29:06
of some government employees , because
29:08
this is the number one space for
29:10
government employees . Many
29:13
of them are here , many of the agencies
29:15
have pages and you can
29:17
do a lot .
29:18
They're lurking in the background looking .
29:21
Right , and you can also lurk
29:23
with them too , because you can see who are they connected
29:25
with , how you can get in contact , what
29:27
events . There are even people on LinkedIn
29:30
who post government bids . I
29:32
mean , it's amazing the resource , so
29:34
it led to visibility
29:36
there . And then , second , I received my
29:39
very first paid GovCon
29:41
winners client . He was a five-figure
29:44
client . I had no website
29:46
, I had nothing . He saw some
29:48
videos , we had a call and I
29:50
closed the deal . I was
29:52
still , to this day , blown away
29:54
by that . That's
29:57
just from LinkedIn . So
29:59
the question is , if you
30:01
want to be able to achieve your goals , video
30:05
is the way Hands down
30:07
. Whether you sell office chairs , you're
30:09
selling something around coaching , consulting
30:11
, whether you're selling phone cases
30:13
, this is the place for you .
30:16
Yeah , I love it . I love it . So
30:18
you're taking questions . Kizzi , you want to start taking
30:21
questions ? Yes , okay , so
30:23
if you have a question for Kizzi , click the hand
30:26
icon at the bottom right of
30:28
your screen and raise your hand
30:30
. It could be related
30:32
to government contracting . It could be related
30:34
to content creation as a
30:36
founder . Just raise your hand and we'll bring
30:38
you up . So , jase , what's up ?
30:41
Hey , good morning today and hey , kizzi
30:44
, thank you so much for sharing all this knowledge
30:46
with us . Really appreciate it . My
30:48
question to you is this I run a recruitment agency
30:51
and we've obviously been
30:53
trying to get into government contracts . The problem that we've
30:55
been facing is we don't know how to
30:57
. How long does it normally take for
30:59
someone to secure a government contract ?
31:03
The answer to that is up to you .
31:07
Let me answer that , Jase .
31:09
It's going to take longer without Kizzi , I
31:12
mean truly it will Just like
31:14
, with how it's going to take you longer than if you
31:16
don't have Shanae , because
31:18
when you have someone who's been
31:20
there , done that and has a proven record
31:22
, I know all of the potholes
31:25
, landmines to avoid . And especially
31:27
for recruiting , the federal government's always recruiting
31:30
State level . I just went through a free
31:32
platform last night and
31:34
I saw opportunities just in
31:36
different counties in Florida by just
31:38
digging deeper and having that strategy . So
31:42
it's something where you follow
31:44
the strategy definitely
31:46
in less than
31:48
14 months , because the small business
31:51
administration's 14 months
31:53
Definitely way less than that . If you follow the
31:55
strategy . I've had people who just
31:57
by watching my free content
32:00
they've won a contract . Often those
32:02
contracts are service I mean our product base
32:04
or small service . So again , it's about
32:06
you . What type of recruiting are you
32:08
currently in ?
32:09
Yeah , I do sales recruiting .
32:11
Are you open to pivoting because the federal government's
32:14
need for sales professionals
32:16
may be a little limited ?
32:18
Yeah , so we have a fully automated client
32:20
acquisition system that's now predictable for
32:22
the sales side . We're kind of adding three more
32:25
recruiters to the mix that we've onboarded
32:27
and we're kind of pivoting for like
32:29
travel nursing , as an example , as one of them
32:31
. So I don't mind pivoting .
32:35
Well , if you're open to pivoting , by all means
32:37
, because they , for
32:39
instance , we have religious positions . I
32:42
have Catholic and Protestant religious positions
32:44
in Hawaii , quantico and
32:46
Georgia and
32:48
it's just recruiting , and
32:50
so not that you necessarily have to staff religious
32:52
positions , but it's just to give you an idea . The
32:55
federal government is staffing everything
32:57
. If you've ever been to a military post or
32:59
base or you had a , okay
33:02
, so think about that . Every single person
33:04
you've encountered they need staffed . Chances
33:06
are they're not a government employee .
33:08
Yeah , no , that's good perspective . I grew
33:10
up with Marines and my family so I'm very
33:12
familiar with some of these bases . But
33:15
yeah , absolutely Definitely interesting connecting after this
33:17
chat .
33:17
You can DM me . I have a wait list
33:19
on govconwinnerscom , but just DM
33:22
me would be way faster .
33:23
All right On Trey .
33:25
Dr Kizzy Parks , one of my favorite human
33:27
beings , highly brilliant , highly
33:30
educated , highly melanated . I
33:32
love everything that you do . So that's that
33:35
, and love watching you on YouTube . Thank
33:37
you so much for being honest
33:39
. And when you had , there's
33:41
a question I want to ask you actually like really quick
33:43
. So when you said you had no one to ask
33:45
questions when you graduated in between being
33:48
Dr Parks and an entrepreneur , if you could
33:50
go back five or 10
33:52
years even , what business or
33:54
mindset advice would you give your younger self ? And
33:56
then the second one
33:59
is how do you strike a balance , when you
34:01
do risk taking , between , like , taking really
34:03
both steps and then managing potential
34:05
downsides , because it's a lot of money
34:08
that's involved in government contracting ?
34:11
There is . I'm
34:13
right now in the middle of bidding on
34:15
this . I don't even know
34:17
what the ceiling is . It's $10 billion
34:19
, something ridiculous that I'm bidding on
34:21
. So
34:24
, okay , there's this big part
34:26
of me where I wouldn't give myself any advice
34:29
because everything that I've been
34:31
through has led me to this . So
34:33
I just you know . But to answer your question
34:37
, first and foremost , I would tell myself
34:39
it's going to get better . It's
34:41
going to get better , and
34:44
I would have emphasized
34:47
with myself at that point in time
34:49
you got to learn business
34:53
basics , you have to work
34:55
on trust and you have to work on confidence
34:57
. Those were the biggest
34:59
things for me . All of
35:02
the trials and tribulations that I've encountered
35:04
have come from having holes in those
35:06
areas .
35:07
What was your second question on Traya Risk
35:09
?
35:09
taking . How do you balance ?
35:13
I love risk taking . I
35:16
love it . I
35:18
love it so much it scares my team . I
35:21
do .
35:22
It's like Shanae and Sean Caryl On
35:25
Traya knew it .
35:27
I love it because if risk
35:29
, so here's the deal If you're
35:31
not taking the risk , then you're not going to be able to reap
35:34
the big reward . However , comma
35:36
, I always have
35:38
some type
35:40
of net . Now
35:43
, I may be 50,000
35:45
feet in the sky and the net is like three
35:48
inches above the ground , but
35:50
I'm going to have some type of net
35:52
because my
35:54
mindset , my manifestation , my
35:57
thoughts , that all of that
35:59
is so strong . I'm
36:01
not afraid of failing because
36:03
I look at it as a learning tax . Well
36:06
, as I do certain things to help
36:08
minimize failure per
36:10
se , I look
36:12
at the risk to see if . Number one is it
36:14
worth the payoff ? That's
36:17
first and foremost when am I going to get
36:19
by doing this risk ? Number
36:21
two is this something ? Is
36:24
this a long-term risk ? What
36:27
is going on with this risk ? Is it a one-day
36:29
risk ? Is it a three-day risk ? What
36:32
type of energy is going to be involved in this risk
36:34
? Number three I think about okay
36:36
, is there like
36:39
some kind of known quantity
36:41
case study of
36:44
this , doing this , taking this
36:46
risk , this chance is going
36:48
to lead to the result that I'm
36:50
looking for to get us closer to
36:52
our goals ? Those are the kinds of things
36:54
that quickly go through my
36:57
mind and also what helps
36:59
, because sometimes I
37:01
just want to do everything . I do
37:03
have a chief of staff who
37:05
I bounce ideas off of
37:08
, and I really appreciate
37:10
that , and I have an amazing legal team , who
37:12
also helps too . But
37:14
those two things aside , is you
37:17
just have to be prepared . Especially
37:19
starting out . Early on
37:21
took so many risks or I did things
37:23
that I didn't even realize were risk . Today
37:25
I still take risks , but they're definitely
37:28
way more calculated .
37:30
I love it .
37:31
Yeah .
37:32
Thanks , andrea Shankar .
37:36
Good morning , Dr Parks . Thank you so much for
37:39
sharing all that knowledge with us . My
37:41
question is as you grow a
37:43
team , at what point
37:45
do you realize it's time
37:48
to add a person
37:50
, and what
37:52
is the first thing you delegate
37:55
to that person in
37:57
that instance ?
37:58
I focus in on what
38:02
type of skill set do
38:04
I need in order to
38:07
allow myself to shine Shine
38:09
being selling for me , For
38:12
GovCon winners and for KPC . It's
38:15
about who are those people
38:17
that are needed so I can shine and
38:19
go out there and close deals .
38:21
So for GovCon winners .
38:23
I knew I needed someone to
38:25
operate the day to day In
38:28
order to go in front of camera . Beyond
38:31
all of these things , figure stuff out
38:33
, dream all
38:35
of that . I needed that With
38:38
KPC , for instance . Right now I've
38:40
made the decision we're
38:43
going to really go heavy into staffing
38:45
. So I'm in the middle of bringing on
38:47
a second proposal writer who
38:50
just focuses on staffing
38:52
and so it's about
38:54
, in order to have that
38:56
person come on , be it an admin
38:58
, be it operations
39:00
, be it personal assistant
39:02
, be it the person doing the
39:04
thing , as long as
39:07
it elevates you to bring
39:09
in more sales , that's great . But
39:11
you also have to be mindful and be
39:14
prepared that you're going to
39:16
have to train them
39:18
and make sure that they're aware
39:20
of what you want them to do the
39:22
objectives . How is this position
39:25
and how are they helping you get closer to your
39:27
goals ? So one thing that we've started
39:29
doing is I ask candidates
39:31
what are your five-year goals ? Because
39:33
if a person doesn't have goals or they say I
39:35
don't believe in goals , that's great , I
39:38
do . So you're not going to be able
39:40
to help me and the company and our
39:42
team move forward with goals if
39:44
you don't believe in goals . So
39:46
that's key and also holding them
39:48
accountable , because we'll get into this space
39:50
of . We know we need to grow . We feel
39:52
it , especially as entrepreneurs . You just have that feeling
39:55
like , oh my gosh , I
39:57
need help . But then the
39:59
steps needed to make sure the
40:02
people we bring on for success
40:04
are often rushed . And
40:07
when they're rushed we think , oh , nobody
40:09
can do it as good as I can . And
40:11
the thing is , yes , they can . It's
40:14
just to really
40:16
understand what do you need that person to do
40:18
? What are the expectations , what are their goals
40:21
, things of that nature . So I
40:23
would suggest bringing somebody
40:25
on as soon as you financially can afford
40:27
them , as long as it's helping
40:29
you lead to more sales . I
40:31
had inconsistent sales with GovCon
40:34
winners because my
40:36
energy was all over the place as soon as
40:38
I brought in my team member . All
40:40
of that has changed . Now
40:44
we're exceeding all of
40:46
our goals because the energy is going where
40:48
it needs to go and it allows me to focus in on
40:50
what's important for me .
40:52
Thank you , shankar Frankie .
40:54
First of all , congratulations Dr
40:56
Keezy Parks and Shanay for
40:59
having a great LinkedIn live
41:01
event . I have somebody
41:03
that wants to ask a question for us .
41:06
Hi , good morning everyone . Thank
41:10
you , dr Spark and Shanay . My
41:12
name is Lorna . I invented a product
41:15
and
41:17
it's being used now in hospitals
41:20
, but we did . For
41:22
the number of years that we have been
41:24
manufacturing the product , we have not
41:27
had one government
41:29
contract . How do we do
41:31
that ?
41:34
The key to something like that and thank
41:36
you and good morning to you and I appreciate
41:38
the question and that is there
41:40
has to be a need . So
41:42
if , by being demonstrate
41:45
the need , so for instance , the
41:47
federal government , they will
41:50
hold events where vendors
41:52
like yourself , you
41:54
can show and do demos , whether
41:57
it's some type of medical device
41:59
, if it's a technology , what may
42:01
have you ? There's tons of events like that . The
42:03
second thing there are these
42:05
small business innovative research
42:08
cibbers that are out
42:10
there where the government is funding
42:12
you to kind of take
42:16
this thing , do some research , get
42:18
it ready , so then you could
42:20
see different phases of funding
42:22
, and it's something that a particular
42:25
government agency will want to use . Third
42:28
technique is you
42:31
getting in front of a government
42:33
agency and these I call this
42:35
dialing for dollars , but it's also
42:37
known as a capability brief where
42:40
you get in front of an agency
42:42
or agencies who purchase
42:44
something similar . I
42:47
mean , I understand you have a patent and things of that nature , so you
42:49
can show them . Hey
42:51
, here's what we have , here's how
42:53
it's better , here's how it's going to improve
42:55
things for you . That's what it's about . It's you
42:57
going to them . That's
43:00
what's really key . I love it .
43:03
And Frankie connect with Kizzy on the back end . Kizzy
43:07
, tell everyone where they could find out more . What's your
43:09
website ? How
43:11
can they find out about GovCon winners
43:13
if they want to start securing some government contracts ?
43:15
Well , there's a couple of things I
43:18
would suggest for this
43:20
is free because you all stayed until the end
43:22
go to profitablecontractsco
43:25
. Profitablecontractsco
43:28
. I also
43:30
have a pre-launch
43:33
for my book that's coming out at the end of summer . It's a very
43:35
small investment . You
43:37
get a ton of free items at winnerswaybookcom
43:42
. Winnerswaybookcom . Make
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least twice a week . I'm going
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to get to the point where I go live daily
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, maybe twice a day , and
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I take questions . So this is a perfect
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Anything else Kizzy , before we end .
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Government contracting is for you . The
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government wants to buy what you offer . As
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long as you're willing to sell them to
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them the way that they want it , there's no reason
44:42
. There's no reason
44:44
whatsoever . I
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mean SpaceX , amazon
44:49
, linkedin they all
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sell to the government . Tons
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of small businesses do Businesses of all
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sizes , businesses all over the world
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. I met a couple . They're
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out of Poland and they're like yeah , I have a
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cage code , we're government contractors
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. I was like , wow , and I just met them
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at a random event and nothing to do with government contracting
45:09
. It's a great on
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tap place because the government always
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pays their bills . You're not going
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to have to worry about your bill being in collection . I love it .
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For those of you who enjoyed the room , leave
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you just DM her the word winners on LinkedIn . God bless
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you everyone . Have
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a phenomenal day and we'll see you again later . Ciao
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.
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