once again we talk, and this time we talk about our kickstarter. we also offer advice on running a campaign. that is some good stuff, but our kickstarter is better.

from there we once again delve into a discussion on the shifting landscape impacts the design process.

as we like to do, we make a smooth shift into the topic of activism.

as mentioned we have a kickstarter currently running. we know you want to back it. so go do it.

we do a bad job at writing show notes but really the topics we cover lend themselves to this.

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Also if you like what we do, we will not say no to your money.

oh, by the way, we have a kickstarter.