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Grumpy

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Old Geeks, a weekly talk show

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hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFillippo,

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discussing my points of what went wrong

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on the Internet and who's to blame.

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Welcome to Grumpy Old Geek. I'm Jason

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to Philipoe. Brian, tell my story.

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Brian, I have to say, and we're gonna start

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off this show real quick. Clareton is

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my hero. Yay pharmaceuticals.

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Oh my god. I for

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the past three months, like, two to

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three months, I have just been going slowly

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downhill and I couldn't figure it out.

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And I'm like, what the hell is going on? I have no

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energy. I can't think, you know, it was getting

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bad. And I was trying to do boot up at the same time

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and I just couldn't do anything.

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and it turns out I had a very

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slow creep seasonal allergy. I

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was about to say seasonal allergy. Right?

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Yeah. It's killing me. It was two year.

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I have been in LA. even in LA.

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And we have the worst air in the country. I mean,

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come on. It's not surprising here.

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Yeah. And fortunately

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I mean, for unfortunately for him, fortunately

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for me, friend of show Chris Lockhead, was

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going through the same thing, and he got his

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fixed. And I'm like, wow. He's just

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like medicine. Like, okay. Let's

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try medicine. It's I gotta gotta deal

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you. I got an appointment with my actor next

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Geeks, but in the interim, I grabbed a big box

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of Claritan, and I swear

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to God, it was like, you know,

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I went from like, you know, my

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phone was at three percent and I

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put in a quick charge and it was back at eighty

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percent overnight. You know, I'm just gonna

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I'm gonna throw this out there. Maybe

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this applies to you, maybe not. My my

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wife never really had allergies.

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She got them when she came to LA. you

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know, you change -- Yeah. -- change the system, you change

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all the stuff you're breathing in, all that sort of

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stuff. And she was going she went,

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like, to every doctor known to man, she went through

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the whole process, What she ended up finding

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out is she has she's got a

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dust mite allergy. And they have

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-- Oh, shit. -- have a treatment for

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that now. Wow. So you might wanna get

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yourself tested, Jason. You never know because it was

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definitely, like, it wasn't a year round thing. It was

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it presented as seasonal allergies for her,

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but, like, really bad. Then she

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just went and got the allergy test, found out she was

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allergic to dust mites. Little pill

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she's Jason, she you have to take it for, like, almost

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a year or something like that. She's ending the course

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and she's a thousand times better.

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Oh, man. Okay. I'll check definitely talk to my

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doctor about that. This is why this is now

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grumpy old Geeks because the

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old people shit. you know, the stuff that

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you just brushed off it because as a twenty

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year old because you were too busy downing a

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a entire bottle of whiskey and you didn't

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really notice or care. Yeah.

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No. Now it's just like, I got twelve pills

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just to get, you know, get to breakfast. It's

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crazy. Yeah.

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But Clariton is my hero. There

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you go. Yep. It's good stuff. Yeah.

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Oh my god. I can breathe. I can

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breathe. And So

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I just wanna we're gonna we're gonna roll into this

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real quick, but I just this is driving

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me crazy. Elon

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is, you know, being Elon ing

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as usual. Mhmm. And I just III

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post Actually, he's kind of Elon Plus

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right now. Like, Disney plus I think no.

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Paramount Plus. He's Elon Plus. No.

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He is Elon plus plus. He

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is is he is as hated as c plus

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plus at this Right. Oh,

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but, yeah, he's definitely he's

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he's doing he's Elon Extra, I guess,

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maybe too. Mhmm. Yeah. So

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III wrote this last week. I'm like, people

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asking for Jack Dorothy to come back are the same

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people that said George W. Bush was a great

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president compared to Trump. No,

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Brian, they were both shit. They

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were just different varietals, but still

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shit. Eve, on the other

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hand, was at least smart enough to go

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out and fail at something else. medium,

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which he is, I I Geeks, recently left.

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But he's on that. Yeah. He's just he's just growing

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a beard now. He's he's cultivating a beard and

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he's gonna enter beard contests. Yeah.

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No. I still like Eve. Eve's a good guy.

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Jack yeah. Jack and and

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Elon can just get in that rocket and get

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the fuck out of town as far as I'm concerned. But

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Yeah. You know, Twitter's

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still there. It is

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sorta. It's -- I know. -- there.

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Fox blah blah. I'm just gonna hold polls

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that don't have anything to do with anything to decide

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what what's gonna happen on Twitter now.

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Yeah. There's an there's an

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op ed over at The New York

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Times that I linked to. It says, I was ahead

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of trust in trust in safety at

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Twitter. This is what could become of it.

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well worth the read and I say screw it.

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Let's just dive into the news. Okay.

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Let's

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do it. in

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the news.

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The big bomb at the beginning of the week was

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Elon Musk rein dated Donald Trump's Twitter

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account. Mhmm. And Donald Trump said,

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you think you. And good to China. Or

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and but I just I'd love to they,

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you know, there's a giant document

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on Twitter on the blog still

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titled The Permanent Suspension of

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Real Donald Trump. Well,

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much like self driving is

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used completely incorrectly, so

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is permanent now. Words no

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longer have meaning for the muskster. No.

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No. It's just he's definitely

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on on the Trump train, I

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guess. Or Well, Trump's not. No.

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He he said fuck off. He's

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sticking with his true social because, you know, a lot

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of his money is rolled up in there the donors are

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coming through there. So he he he

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doesn't need that he doesn't need or want the

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attention right now, believe it or not. He wants the

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money. Also, I don't know if you knew

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this, but there's like an SEC ruling against

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him says he can't post on

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he can't post the same content on another

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social network for like six hours.

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So even if you posted one thing on truth, you'd have

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to post something different on Twitter. He

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can't post the same thing or he's gonna be in

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violation of SEC rules. Like, just

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like six hours. I don't know.

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Donald Trump, you could you you know, buffer. That's

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what he can use. Just use that. You'll figure out. Oh,

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Donald Grumpy. That's right. He has patience. I

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forgot about that. He can he

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has so many he has so many patients. Yeah.

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He's got all the patients. He's got the most the most beautiful

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patients. Yeah. They're he's got

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huge patients. huge patience,

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the best patience, all the good patience.

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That's about God. Yep. Yeah.

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Well, I mean, Twitter has continued to be a train

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wreck. There's an Sadly,

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Rolling Stone's journalism is really falling down

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unlike BuzzFeed, which would be doing an updated

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ongoing list of celebrities who've quit Twitter

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because of Elon Musk. Rillingstone published

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once set and forget. So

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this is just a partial list because many more

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people have quit since then, but Sean O'Rimes,

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Gigi Hadid, Tony Braxton,

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Sarah Borrellas, Eric Larson, telephony, whoopi

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Goldberg, Jack White, and Trent Resner have all

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left Twitter according to Rolling Stone. There's an

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awful lot of other people. A lot

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of people are straddling the fence

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saying, oh, I'm over on Mastodon, but

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can't quite figure it out. Yeah. I'm

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hosting that I'm here, but probably leaving

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if I can figure out Mastodon. My

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Twitter feed and again, I I recognize

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that this is because I

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am a cis white old man. It

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has not changed at all. I've

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I've a curated feed of smart

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people and journalists and

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scientists and things of that nature that

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I Jason, and they're all

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still there and still posting. But, you

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know, again, I'm a cis white male that doesn't

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have get abuse or rape threats

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or racist attacks all the time. So

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also I never post. So I don't give a shot. there

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you go. That's the that's the thing. As soon

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as you post, you start to lose followers

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and gain hate. So the the real trick is

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to get an account, follow a bunch

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of people, and just let it sit. As soon as

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you tweet something, boom. Here come the unfollows,

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here come the hate, you know? just Yeah.

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Set it and forget it. So I

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wanted to dive a little bit further into

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the musicians leaving Twitter just because

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that's kind of the world that I live in and

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what I've lived in for thirty plus years.

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Jack White has made it clear that he's leaving

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Twitter due to Elon Musk's decision to reinstate

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Donald Trump's account, which kinda looks silly right now

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since Donald Trump didn't exactly come

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back. Trent Resner

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has closed his account as

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well. He said the billionaire

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class basically took a swipe at Elon

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Musk saying, you know, this is just

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ridiculous that billionaires are taking over all

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these means communication. It's a negative climate

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and social media in general. We

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don't need the arrogance of the billionaire class to

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feel like they can just come in and solve everything

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even without him involved. I just find that has become

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such a toxic environment for my

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mental health, I need to tune out. And when Trent

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Resner says for his mental health, he needs to tune

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out, we should probably be paying

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attention because this dude, let's pay attention. He's

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had some fucked up shit going on in his

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life. I don't feel good being there

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anymore. Elon, of

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course, replied by calling him a cry baby

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saying too bad because I quite like his music when

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in the ass. And then

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he said he might be better suited to being on

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Etsy, which is

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kind of funny. That's pretty good.

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That's a good that's a good thing. Yeah. Joe

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Bonamasa, who is somebody I don't

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really know terribly well, but he's a he's a very

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well respected guitarist. He's

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also left in his his you know, the

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irony of all these things is these announcements

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about leaving social media go viral

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on social media.

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So, yeah, he's he's left. He

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posted this big thing on Instagram just saying, like,

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I'm sick of people, like, just

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dunking on you all the time. To your

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point, Jason, as soon as you post, you get the

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hate. And, you know, so a

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lot of musicians are starting to

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question the value of being on social

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media at this point, which I think

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is Correct. It's so

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funny. Well, here's here's two funny things about this.

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Trent Resner, bitching about billionaires, where

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he how many hundreds of millions does he has?

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He's not a billionaire. not

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a billionaire, but still better

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off than almost everybody else

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combined. Exactly. So yeah.

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Potkettle Black Trent. And

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I was talking to my brother last night. I'm like

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because I we put up all these, you

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know, different giant blow ups I've got

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like a nine foot blow up straddle in my

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front yard. I've got a black angel. We've

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got all sorts of different cross

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religious things that we put up in our front

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yard. We are the most obnoxious people at

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Christmas. And he's like, oh, I gotta see this. I'm

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like, oh, yeah. Just go check my Instagram,

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like, a year or two ago, and we've got pictures

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of all that stuff up there. And he's like, I don't

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really go on Instagram. I'm like, why not? He's

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like, because every time I do it, it makes me

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sad. And I'm like, yeah. Okay. There you

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go. Don't do it. Yeah. I

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mean, I you know, we yeah. Let's

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just say. III like the fact

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that a lot of the smart people and a lot of

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the people that have been using it to

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promote their careers are now taking a pretty

10:32

critical look at it and saying, do I really need

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this? And now Maybe maybe it's time to do

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traditional marketing again. Who knows? Or,

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you know, focus on your website. They're

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there. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take it all back.

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Take it back. Exactly.

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So Twitter is now engaging

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in a dick move 101

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Actually, this is definitely a page out of the

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Donald Trump pay playbook. What do you do? What

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do you wanna save money? You don't

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pay your bills. Yep. I thought the

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same thing. Same thing. Yeah.

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Donald Trump infamous for not to paying his

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contractors and paying anybody anything once

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they've done the work. Elon Musk is now

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refusing to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel

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bills accumulated by Twitter employees before

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he took over the company. He's

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issued orders to slow or even halt

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payment to vendors and contract services.

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Dick move, I wonder if he did the I

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wonder if he did the math on this on

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how much it's gonna cost in lawyer fees when

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all of these people sue him. Mhmm.

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That's

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like he would. Well, you'll you'll be

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paying pennies on the dollars trying to get the

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money back from these vendors. But

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the lawyer fees are probably gonna You

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can kill him. Yeah. Kill him. He's he's gonna

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be drowning in lawyer fees anyways. already

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is. I'm sure plus the fans of the

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course. Yeah. Yeah. The the the the

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bow on on this particular

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present that he's gifting the world

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especially at Christmas time. They have not delivered

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checks previously promised to charitable

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organizations. Jason, damn.

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that man Yeah.

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Okay. Scrooge. Scrooge

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Mick Musk. That's who he is. And

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we might have a show title. except

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we've had Elon Musk because I like the I I

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wanna do a non Musk titled, David.

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I know. I know.

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It's hard though. It's so hard. It's hard.

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It does suck all the oxygen out of

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Mars. Yeah. And and,

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you know, Let's just let's

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just say, there's a new website called

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Twitter is going great. That's a rip off of

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web three is going great. it's,

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you know, I hope it has the blessing

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of Molly from over there,

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but because it's the same thing. It's also run by a

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woman. That's great. But that's

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just it's, you know, Something I

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would do in my twenties is rip off another site like

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that because she took the look and feel and everything. So

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hopefully, there's a blessing there. But if not, either

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way, just go there for the Twitter

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news

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I got one more one more Twitter story

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here.

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Sam

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Bankman Freed and Elon Musk

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apparently had some secret text messages going

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back and forth. And there is a

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rumor that Elon is denying, but

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the

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the Kennedy evidence is there that Sam

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Baakman Fried put in a hundred million dollars into

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Twitter, so he does own a little tiny

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chunk. So the hits keep on

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coming for FTX is especially

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their celebrity promoters who

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we've always said were

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probably going to get in trouble. Well,

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the the roosters are coming

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home to roost. Is that what it is? The chickens are coming

13:22

home to roost. How ever they call that?

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Something like that. Tom

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Brady, Shaq, What's his

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name from curb your enthusiasm? I'm

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not sure he should actually get one because the

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entire commercial, he was like, I

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don't know about this. And he was Well, I

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was thinking the same thing. He was he was kind of like

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he was kind of taking a piss out of it. So Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But

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just Xel Búceans deaf

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curry, Shaq, yeah, all these people.

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Kevin O'Leary, too. You know, mister

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wonderful is not so wonderful anymore,

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which we all kinda knew. as soon as

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I saw him get into NFTs. I'm like, oh, here we

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go. Here we go. So many people jumped

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on this bandwagon. I I Mhmm. A

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paid advertiser, whatever.

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Come on. I don't know if they could pursued

14:04

whatever. Well, here's the thing. It comes

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down to if they if they

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disclosed the fact that it was a paid

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placement, which obviously they're

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in the fucking Super Bowl. Who's

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gonna be you know, who's gonna think that

14:17

they're not doing paid placement? So

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Yeah. I I don't quite understand that. Look, if you

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get sick eating a butcher box steak,

14:23

we're not liable for that. It's all

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And you will never will be because You never

14:27

will. You said they're wonderful. Never. Never.

14:30

Ever. Should've

14:32

picked somebody that dropped us a long time ago, but, you

14:35

know, If your hero drops

14:37

connection, it's not our fault. There you go.

14:39

And that happens to me frequently. Yes.

14:42

But thirty seconds ago as a matter of fact, but

14:44

we restarted this damn show

14:46

anyway. Anyways. Alright.

14:48

Here's here's the thing. Here's the reason that these

14:50

people are doing it. because they're assuming that

14:52

these celebrities are just going to settle and they're

14:54

just gonna get a payday. Yeah. They're like,

14:56

oh, you know, we they don't want they

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don't want the publicity. They don't want the hassle, so

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they're just gonna settle. Well, you know, since

15:02

it was a paid placement, I'm

15:04

on the fence about this. It's

15:06

like, okay. I mean, I do think Matt

15:08

Damon should spend a decade in Lebanon worth for

15:10

that crypto dot com ad just because it was so

15:12

terrible. But You

15:15

know, the Larry David ad was kinda funny. The

15:17

Larry David one was funny. And again, you

15:19

know, that that Matt Jason Crypto ad

15:21

was terrible. But, again, the producers

15:23

of the ad. He was just he's he's just

15:25

walking meat that's been paid to stand

15:27

there. Yep.

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Fortune favors the rapid celebrity

15:32

product placement. Again, by the way, if

15:34

you're dumb enough to buy anything that Matt Damon

15:36

tells you to buy. Yeah. tuxedo.

15:41

Moving on. So there was some good news

15:43

I thought that came out this week in

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about crypto and mining in general.

15:47

Governor Kathy Hoffman Hochelle, I believe,

15:49

New York, has signed legislation

15:51

restricting crypto mining, making it the first

15:53

state to clamp down on the practice. It's an

15:55

environment focused law, no shit,

15:57

that establishes a two year freeze

15:59

on new and renewed air permits for fossil

16:02

fuel power plants used for

16:04

mining that uses demanding proof

16:06

of worth work authentication, which

16:08

is the really bad one that basically

16:10

uses all the power. Bitcoin. Like yeah.

16:12

Bitcoin and all that. So anything that, you know,

16:14

uses the power of Brazil basically to mine your

16:16

stupid bitcoin. So,

16:18

yeah, they're they're basically putting a putting a

16:20

lock down on this thing no more. And

16:22

it's It's insane to me,

16:24

mining outfits in New York are building

16:26

natural gas power based power plants to

16:28

sustain operations. Yes, of

16:30

course, this should be restricted. Yes,

16:32

of course, this should be banned. Are you

16:35

fucking kidding me? Anyways,

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But

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what I really drove me nuts is the

16:39

very last sentence in this article.

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There's also the question of effectiveness. New

16:44

York's law might drive some miners to

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states with looser policies. Okay.

16:49

Don't we need to start somewhere?

16:51

If we have a law about

16:53

not fucking twelve year olds, should

16:56

the line and the article be people

16:58

might move to Nevada to go fuck twelve year

17:00

olds? We better not

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pass this law.

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Somebody

17:04

needs to tell him the journey of a thousand

17:06

miles begins with one step. I mean,

17:08

you know, let Texas be Texas led

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everybody move there like Elon did, but we gotta

17:12

start somewhere. And the

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EU has confirmed that there are ongoing

17:17

investigations going into TikTok's data

17:20

practices. So there are a lot of questions

17:22

about TikTok's data practices. It goes

17:24

into the black box we call China.

17:26

and nobody knows what's really happening over there. So we'll

17:28

let the EU take the charge here because at least

17:30

they've got GDPR that's backing them

17:33

up, but you know, it's

17:35

gonna end up being TikTok is gonna go,

17:37

don't like it, don't use it, and we'll

17:39

see how that goes. So

17:43

yeah. Yep. Alright. Well,

17:45

speaking of it, don't liken it. Elizabeth

17:47

Holmes probably isn't liking her sentence. She

17:49

got over eleven years. Good. Her

17:51

four counts of fraud. Good.

17:54

So she's getting, like, next to none of it, and

17:56

she conveniently managed to get pregnant

17:58

right about the time that she knew she'd

18:00

be getting convicted. so that'll get

18:02

pushed off a little bit, and then she'll go in for

18:04

a little while, and then she'll smile and claim

18:07

that, you know, pretty people deserve better

18:09

food. And she's a horrible

18:11

person. I'm glad. Well, good. Here's

18:13

the here's the law of unintended

18:15

consequences. The judge basically threw the book at

18:17

her because she got pregnant and she was so

18:20

unlikable. So backfire? Yeah.

18:23

Right. It's just again, I think it's

18:25

worth repeating here. This isn't just a little

18:27

bit of fraud. This isn't a light

18:29

dusting of fraud. These

18:31

were false medical tests,

18:34

life or death situations

18:36

for people. testing

18:39

surgeries, treatment, medications,

18:42

all these decisions were made by

18:44

doctors based on false fucking

18:46

blood reports. Yep.

18:47

So that is the that is the

18:49

very good point here because everybody in

18:51

tech is just like, oh, there's so many

18:53

other bros out there doing so much

18:55

worse stuff and it's like,

18:57

But that's real and just them are different. The consequences of

18:59

their service are different than the consequences of

19:02

her service. Exactly. Like you said, it's

19:04

medical. Yeah. It's different.

19:07

But and here's the thing. Hopefully, her

19:10

bow gets, like, five times as

19:12

long, you know? Because we

19:14

I don't want I don't want the precedent to be that it's just the chicks

19:16

that do it because he is just as Oh,

19:18

yeah. He needs to be Just as or what? Just

19:21

as comfortable. Just as

19:23

comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Hundred percent.

19:25

Yeah. Foxconn's

19:27

largest iPhone factory in China has

19:29

been hit by worker protests, including

19:31

violent confrontations, video hundreds of workers marching

19:33

and confronting a manager along with several

19:36

instances of violence. Employees

19:38

are reportedly upset over lesser benefits and longer

19:40

wait times for bonuses according to videos

19:42

posted on Weibo and

19:44

seen by engager China. One

19:46

clip shows workers shouting defend our rights, defend

19:48

our rights while confronting police.

19:51

Another person I'm really scared about this place.

19:53

We could all be COVID positive while another

19:55

ads you were sending us to death.

19:56

Sounds great over there.

19:58

You're glad we're able to use new

19:59

iPhones. No, you're not

20:01

because the the

20:04

downside of that is all of

20:06

the stuff that Foxconn

20:08

had had promised the

20:10

employees, you know, the the hazard pay

20:12

and all that crap while they kinda reneged on

20:14

all that stuff. and then they gave them an out that

20:17

said that, you know, they will for

20:19

a pay related technical error,

20:21

they're gonna offer, like, fourteen hundred dollars

20:23

to the protesting people. And

20:26

if they don't wanna take it, they can

20:28

quit. Well, about twenty thousand people have

20:30

quit already because of

20:32

that. Right. Which is a lot. That's a lot.

20:34

So they're saying it's a lot. So they're

20:36

saying that the the iPhone fourteen

20:39

availability is gonna be down about thirty percent

20:41

just because of this. Some people are saying, no

20:44

big deal. No big deal. Big

20:46

deal. Let's let's split it in the middle

20:48

here. Let's say it's even fifteen percent. fifteen

20:50

percent already based on the the downsizing of

20:53

their orders. It's yeah. If

20:55

you if if you want an iPhone fourteen pro,

20:58

get it now because it's probably gonna be

21:00

a while. Yep. I'm just

21:02

waiting for the fifteen. I got a

21:04

thirteen is fine. Alright. And

21:08

finally, we have some real news coming out of the

21:10

FCC that has actually done something. They finally

21:12

cut off a voice provider for failing to

21:14

protect against robocalls. T

21:16

Mobile UC has

21:18

finally been failed to meet requirements

21:20

for protecting against spam robocalls, and they

21:22

are no longer in the robocall mitigation

21:24

database. which means other carriers, including

21:27

intermediaries, will have to stop accepting its

21:29

traffic. They finally did Jason. We

21:31

got him this time. Thinks,

21:33

ding, ding. Keep it

21:36

up. I mean, you know, this has been years in the

21:38

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21:42

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21:44

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25:05

Now, Brian, I put in this first movie because

25:07

I am so on the fence about this.

25:10

It's a Christmas story

25:12

Christmas. The the new version of a

25:14

Christmas story. Mhmm. I had to go

25:16

look at rotten tomatoes, so it's got a

25:18

seventy five percent tomato tomato

25:21

meter rated. Good. in

25:23

an eighty two percent audience score,

25:25

which is very good. I'm still

25:28

on the fence. I want

25:30

somebody I trust to go watch this

25:32

first because know, a Christmas story is a

25:34

Christmas story to us. Classic. It's like classic. It's a

25:36

classic. Yeah. Yeah. Frigilei.

25:38

Come on. I just I don't know if I

25:40

want it ruined. No. I'm just I'm not

25:42

sure if I'm ready for a gooney story

25:44

Christmas. Well, touch the

25:47

gooney. Well, think about Like,

25:49

the ghostbusters the the latest ghostbusters.

25:52

Mhmm. That shouldn't have been made.

25:54

Here not. It was It should not have

25:56

been made.

25:56

was okay. There was that little bit at the

25:59

end where it tugged at your

25:59

heartstrings when Venkman was back, you know,

26:02

and all that. It was nice. It

26:04

was nice. But it wasn't worth it. The juice

26:06

was not worth the squeeze. And I'm

26:08

really worth the bang. So

26:12

I just don't think a Christmas story

26:14

Christmas is gonna be that. So so

26:17

listen I'm gonna watch it, Jason. I'm gonna

26:19

watch it. Oh, you're gonna watch it? Okay. I I can't guarantee

26:21

when. We're we're the midst of World Cup

26:23

fever here, but I will watch -- Yeah. --

26:25

before Christmas. Yeah.

26:27

Well, we got we got a little ways before Christmas because,

26:29

yeah, I wasn't even gonna watch it now because I'm like,

26:31

ah, Christmas, time ain't here

26:33

yet. So I'm waiting for the

26:35

joy in the cheer, but I think that

26:38

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe a couple

26:40

gummies and a night where there's

26:42

literally nothing to do We'll be always routing an egg

26:44

nug. Yes. Yeah.

26:46

Exactly. This is not something you need to

26:48

watch with a full a full deck.

26:50

I'm saying. Yeah.

26:53

did finish slow horses season one

26:55

last night. Okay. Slow horses is

26:57

the spy show with

26:59

Gary Oldman on Apple TV

27:01

plus look great. Dude,

27:03

so fucking good. Cool.

27:05

So good. It's like, you

27:08

know, it's it's it's it's a spook

27:10

story. Lots of spy stuff. Gary

27:12

Oldman plays the Old Spymaster in

27:14

a house of rejected, you

27:16

know, agents who have basically

27:18

gotten kicked out of MI five for kinda

27:21

being crappy. Mhmm. And

27:23

it's awesome. I it's only six episodes,

27:25

so it's short. They're they're I mean, the short episodes

27:28

highly highly recommended. And,

27:30

yeah, the new season drops on December second. I

27:32

thought it was December ninth, but I guess I put

27:34

it in here. So says December second, so I must be

27:36

right, I guess. We're

27:39

not. We're not. But either way,

27:41

go watch season

27:43

one, because man, it's good. It's really,

27:45

really good. Cool. Alright. And

27:47

the peripheral, I just finished

27:49

the latest episode sowed last night. I know you

27:51

said that you were going downhill with it.

27:54

Yeah. It is found stasis for me.

27:56

I I have reached homeostasis with the

27:58

peripheral where it's

28:00

good. It's it's it's, you know, good

28:02

drama. start good. Okay.

28:04

Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm enjoying it. It's

28:07

just And this the latest episode is the best in a

28:09

long time. So I don't know how

28:11

many there are totals. So this was episode

28:13

seven, I believe. for the

28:15

latest one that came guessing we're getting

28:17

ten. That would be my guess. Yeah.

28:19

I'd like it to be twelve, but as we

28:21

discussed last week, but I'm guessing ten. I

28:23

didn't watch the latest one. I had a choice.

28:26

I watch Andor finale or watch

28:28

the peripheral and I went with Andor.

28:31

satisfying. Yes.

28:34

Yes. We'll we'll talk about that

28:36

in Star Wars, shortly.

28:39

Maybe three months when Dave catches up. You

28:41

mean? Yep. Exactly.

28:43

Now I did manage to get an entire

28:45

movie under my belt this My wife and I

28:47

schedules finally aligned, and we

28:49

watched downton Abby a new era.

28:52

Okay. yeah Thank you. enjoyable.

28:55

Look. Look. The music is there. The

28:57

faces are there. The costumes are there.

28:59

The silly dialogue is there.

29:01

It is it is everything that

29:03

you I I would much rather

29:05

rather than the, what, three movies or

29:07

two movies that we've gotten. I'd much rather they'd

29:09

have done an entire another season, I

29:11

think, the show. It's more enjoyable in bite sized forty

29:14

five minute snippets tended to

29:16

love them than a

29:18

movie, but for what it was. I'm

29:20

very happy. I watched it and I

29:22

hope they never do another one.

29:24

Good. Because I I couldn't I the

29:26

problem with me was I

29:28

started to watch it and I had to turn it off

29:30

because Maggie Smith's eyes were so

29:34

fucking. And just like

29:36

you know, she old. She just

29:39

she's old. She's really, really old. She

29:41

reminded me a lot of my grandmother, and it was

29:43

just like, There was I was

29:45

triggered, Brian. I was triggered. Oh,

29:47

yeah. You might okay. Well, you know,

29:49

yeah. Pop a few gummies. get back

29:51

in there. It's it's Well, that's I think that was

29:53

the two initial her eyes. Well, I

29:55

think her eyes were a little too buggy because

29:57

I had some goodies. But I watched

29:59

it. I'm like, whoa. Alright.

30:01

Then I'll go back and give it another go,

30:03

Chase. Okay. Maybe I'll try

30:05

the eggnog. I'll I'll do the eggnog without

30:07

nappy, and I will do some

30:09

gummies with a Christmas store. It's

30:11

a it's a nice satisfying

30:13

conclusion to the entire thing. And

30:15

-- Yeah. -- you are left going, okay, that's

30:17

it. We're done. So Okay. I

30:19

was left with that last time. So this

30:22

time -- Really? -- if I need it. Okay.

30:24

Jason think I know what you're I think I know

30:26

what you're saying on that. Okay. And

30:29

speaking of classics being revisited here,

30:31

the love actually cast is reuniting for

30:33

a twentieth anniversary TV special.

30:36

Do they have to really You know what? This

30:38

is my wife's one of my wife's

30:40

favorite traditions Christmas time. Love actually

30:42

always gets put on. That's and

30:45

I've been with her for a long time, so I've been

30:47

through many years of watching Love actually

30:49

around Christmas time and I've come around to

30:51

it. I I get how

30:53

the young Gen Z might look at this and go, oh,

30:55

boy, that is so unwoke and problematic.

30:57

Oh, fucking lighten up. It's fun.

31:00

So See, I just never liked it. So

31:03

because I my family had the same

31:05

fucking tradition, and I just never liked

31:07

that movie. It's just no. Not

31:09

to me. Look. If nothing else, you've

31:11

gotta enjoy Billy Mack, which is

31:13

Bill Nye's character. It's just he's

31:15

the best. And, like, I Like the like

31:17

like how how she was how

31:19

what's her face? I'm sorry. You just mentioned her name, the

31:22

old one from Don Navi, and I'm

31:24

Toby Smith. Like Maggie Smith was

31:26

the was the sugar in the pill that got

31:28

me into downton Abbey. Bill Nye

31:30

is the sugar in the pill that makes

31:32

love actually palatable for me.

31:34

He was fucking awesome in it, and

31:36

it's just amazing. So so I'm

31:38

excited. I I will be watching this. It's just

31:40

interviews with some of the people involved so

31:42

they're not going back and revisiting, which is great. Okay.

31:44

because because, you know, I'm sorry, Bill Nighy

31:46

from me, his best

31:49

role ever Mhmm.

31:51

Sean of the dead.

31:52

The hands down. That

31:53

seems great to that. But his best role is Billy

31:55

Mac. Sorry. You're wrong. Okay.

31:57

Okay. Well, agree to disagree.

31:59

Moving on to some media news,

32:02

Bob Iger, shock returning as Disney

32:04

CEO. They're swapping Bob's. Bob

32:06

Chapek out Bob Iger back

32:08

in. As a longtime Disney aficionado,

32:10

this is good news for me. Also,

32:12

I think most stockholders have agreed. These stock

32:14

has taken a definite bounce since this. I just

32:16

think he's he gets Disney better.

32:19

And we'll see. Yeah. Yeah.

32:21

I mean, if he's as long as what

32:23

he's working on is a successor, you know,

32:25

fixing the little problems that we got and

32:27

finding somebody who can actually do the job.

32:30

Yep. without his ego being involved, we'll see how

32:32

that plays out. But Yeah. Yeah.

32:34

I

32:34

don't know. I mean, I

32:35

don't have any any Disney stock and

32:38

But I I thought it it bounced back

32:40

up, but I thought it came back down, like, the

32:42

day after. Probably did. You know you know how these

32:44

things happen. Like, all of a sudden,

32:46

hey, great news. Oh, streaming is still

32:48

not making any money anywhere. Dead

32:52

Mickey bounce. Yeah. Dead

32:54

Mickey bounce. saw this this

32:56

morning. Amazon is planning to invest one

32:58

billion dollars a year in movies for

33:01

theaters. So gonna try and make between

33:03

twelve and fifteen movies a year

33:05

that will get a theatrical release. Well, which will

33:07

put them on par with Paramount. I

33:10

don't know if one billion dollars for twelve

33:12

to fifteen movies. That does it? It's

33:14

not very big movies. I'm not

33:16

thinking because if my guess is they're

33:18

shooting for Oscars. Right.

33:21

So it's gonna be meaningful low

33:23

budget movies. They put in theater

33:25

for exactly one Geeks, so it's

33:28

Oscar, eligible, Exactly. Trying to go

33:30

for the prestige here. That's that's my key.

33:32

Yeah. because it's a very Jeff Bezos

33:34

thing. I wanna be respected. Yeah.

33:36

Yeah. Well, and they also have an MGM now,

33:38

so kinda makes sense. You

33:40

know? Yeah. Yeah. Billing seems

33:42

a little low. though. because, I mean, that's

33:44

only four Avatar two. Plus, that's one

33:47

episode of Lord of the Rings. Yeah. yeah

33:52

You might get a panning shot of Mordor

33:54

for a billion dollars nowadays. Yeah.

33:57

Jeez. Yeah. But, you know,

33:59

it says that Avatar two cost two hundred

34:01

and fifty million dollars or did it

34:04

because there's another article with

34:06

James Cameron coming out saying

34:08

that EBITDAR two was a very fucking expensive.

34:10

And, you know, the budget to shoot

34:12

it might have been two hundred and fifty million, which

34:14

I think is low, low, low,

34:18

The marketing is always twice the budget of

34:20

the movie. Yeah. So he's saying that it has

34:22

to be in the fourth or fifth highest grossing films

34:24

of all time just to Brian

34:28

even. And, yeah, I don't know, man.

34:30

III don't know anybody that cares

34:32

about Avatar, but the rerelease

34:34

got them another giant bucket

34:37

of money. So That's what I was gonna say

34:39

too. It's like, I seriously

34:42

do not give a shit

34:44

about this movie. But, no, I

34:46

think we're just looking at the historical movies either,

34:48

you know. Yeah. Yeah. That yeah. We're old

34:50

and we don't give a fuck. So

34:53

I mean, like like the top out of

34:55

the top five, most of the movies

34:57

are Avengers movies. So -- Yeah. --

34:59

the hell that we know -- Yep. -- we

35:01

obviously do not. So No. And Ariel

35:03

sent us in a warning.

35:04

Do not watch eighteen ninety nine. No

35:06

spoilers just a word of caution from a disgruntled

35:10

Netflix viewer. This was supposed to be

35:12

a sci fi mind bending thriller, and I

35:14

stuck through the entire eight episodes hoping that

35:16

this prolonged agony would be rewarded by

35:18

an epic ending and a huge

35:20

revelation. This is rarely the case with your

35:22

typical shit shows at nine eighteen ninety

35:24

nine is no different. Acting mediocre

35:26

at best. Camera work. What

35:28

camera work? soundtrack. An array of eerie sounds and drone tones.

35:30

That is it. Narrative. To avoid

35:32

spoilers, I will just say that there's nothing

35:34

new here. Brian what pissed me off the

35:36

most is that the main plot line characters

35:38

setting timeline, basically, the entire show could

35:40

have taken place anywhere else. It is so

35:42

poorly written and executed that it really does

35:44

not matter. you have been warned. Okay? Well, thank

35:46

you very much, Ariel. Wasn't gonna watch

35:48

it anyways. I I was

35:50

tempted because I it it's in my queue. I threw it in

35:52

my queue.

35:54

because I read something and I just put it in there because the I think it maybe

35:56

was because the artwork was nice. But,

35:58

yeah, it was probably never gonna get

36:00

seen. So now it's definitely never gonna get

36:03

scene. Yeah. I started listening

36:05

to planet money again because I haven't

36:07

listened to it in a long time. I haven't listened to that

36:09

in, like, five years. Yeah.

36:11

It was just it was

36:14

still in my in my shows

36:16

that I I listened to,

36:18

but it wasn't being updated. one

36:20

Sam Bankman Fried and the

36:22

spectacular fail of his Crypto Empire

36:24

FTX. Mhmm. Link for that will be in the

36:26

show notes. Great episode.

36:28

Great primer on everything that happened with FTX

36:30

up until the point where they did the show.

36:32

So but it has the backstory, so

36:34

it's it's worth it. You gotta say Planet Money was always solid.

36:36

It was a great show. I don't know why it dropped

36:38

off my radar a long time ago, but it certainly

36:41

did. because I think I think

36:43

the main guys left. That's when I quit.

36:45

You're right. Yeah. You know, those the the guys left, and then now it's like a

36:47

bunch of people I've never heard of. But they did a

36:49

really good job. So Yeah.

36:52

It was good. It's it's definitely well worth the half hour just to get

36:55

if you wanna get caught up on the FTX thing

36:57

without having to go find all the articles

36:59

or listen to our show or

37:01

go to our show now. Or read.

37:04

go to g dot show or read. Yeah. It's good. It's good.

37:06

So, you know, I'm a fan of Bert

37:10

Kreisher and I know it is a strange thing. Most people don't

37:12

like him except for the millions of

37:14

people that do. He

37:16

does a

37:18

cooking show was basically in his

37:20

house. He set up a little cooking studio in his house.

37:22

It's called something's burning. Mhmm.

37:24

And he started selling

37:26

the back catalog of that. It was, like, fifteen bucks for

37:28

a year access pass to the first two

37:30

seasons. So I got him -- Yep. -- because I

37:32

wanted to see him because they're fought there. I

37:35

listen to the he he will put the

37:38

entirety of the recording in his podcast,

37:40

so I'll listen to some of it, but I'd like to see

37:42

it. You know, that's one of the ones where I'd kinda like to see it's a

37:44

cooking show. And they just

37:46

had Jim Jeffries on. So I'm like, okay.

37:48

Let's let's just let's roll the dice fifteen

37:50

bucks fucking. He uses this thing

37:52

called in player. which is the

37:54

genkiest ass shit that you've

37:56

ever seen. I mean, this is like, we're talking

37:58

real player, like, levels of

37:59

shit here. Right. Yeah.

38:02

And so to to play it

38:04

on your TV, you have to launch the in

38:06

player player in your browser and

38:08

then cast it to your TV. Right.

38:10

And I'm like, You know we can

38:12

still steal this shit. Right? Why not just give us the fucking videos?

38:16

So I

38:18

don't know. It just drives me crazy. to site and said, this is this

38:20

is how we're gonna protect it. Nobody would

38:22

be able to download this and get

38:25

access to it. You'll get your fifteen

38:27

bucks. Yeah. His buddy, Tom, what's his

38:30

name? Who does his all

38:32

the other

38:34

streaming stuff? I'm sure is the

38:36

one that turned him onto this, but it

38:38

is awful. The in player

38:41

ecosystem is fucking awful. So that brings us

38:44

to ups

38:46

and doodas. screen

38:50

flow pro ten, which

38:52

is what I use all the time

38:54

to get to rip this shit. I'll plate

38:56

my browser. I'll I'll capture

38:58

the screen. I will have it saved

39:00

to a file and then put it in my media library so

39:02

I can watch it when I want. You can just do

39:04

this all day long. I do this

39:06

with webinars. that I wanna see, that

39:08

I don't wanna sit through, so I can, like, you

39:10

know, play faster later. Anything

39:12

that you can capture Zoom calls, anything

39:14

screenflow pro

39:16

ten, for the Mac is awesome. It just it just captures

39:18

everything. But here's the other cool thing about it

39:20

that I use it for all the time.

39:22

It is a great really fast video

39:24

editor. So you can drag in sound. You can drag in

39:27

video and you can cut and just move

39:29

everything around super fast without having to know like

39:31

the super dinged dong apps

39:34

like final cut or premiere. If you just wanna

39:36

if you wanna be able to capture and

39:38

edit really quick, really powerfully,

39:40

and do a ton of shit,

39:42

ScreenFlow pro ten is awesome. This is not a

39:44

paid endorsement. I've been using them since

39:46

version four, I think. And, yeah,

39:48

I just love that app. Love

39:52

it. Cool. Now I saw this one Thanksgiving

39:54

morning, and it's Tesla's full self driving beta is now

39:56

available to everyone in North America.

40:00

And I saw this from a tweet from Elon Musk. Mhmm.

40:02

Yeah. And he says, you you

40:04

can do that. Congrats to Tesla autopilot

40:07

AI team on achieving a major milestone. So my reply was if

40:09

you see a Tesla on the streets this holiday,

40:12

flee. That is if you

40:14

wanna really see

40:16

Christmas because beta software will kill someone this

40:18

holiday. Hashtag DystopiYAY.

40:22

Yay. Yeah. I mean

40:24

Oh, We talked about this

40:26

when the limited self driving beta

40:28

was released. I I don't want anything

40:30

that can actually kill people.

40:32

in beta. Yeah. On the roads. Out

40:35

on

40:35

on in the holidays

40:37

where most people die from

40:39

traffic related accidents. Geeks

40:41

just put out a beta version of

40:44

our fucking Christ. This is

40:46

so Read the room.

40:48

Well, for read the room,

40:50

but also I can't

40:52

help but feel not very far

40:54

in the future of maybe twenty, thirty

40:56

episodes from now. We're gonna be

40:58

talking about criminal negligence. Oh,

41:00

no. No. These people never get

41:02

fucking go to jail. No. Alright.

41:04

No. Unless unless you're, you know,

41:06

Elizabeth Holmes,

41:08

nothing's gonna happen to Elon? Yeah. Ever. I

41:10

know he's being investigated for it and

41:13

all that shit, but Jesus.

41:16

No. It's it just drives me

41:18

that. Depressing. It really

41:20

is. It really is. So

41:23

on the on the news of Elon there,

41:25

we've got a couple new social networks that

41:27

we've been talking about. Since

41:29

since everybody's fleeing Twitter

41:32

or just chat chat chat too anyways. And it's become

41:34

obvious and very, very clear that

41:36

Mastodon is not going to So

41:39

now it's critical fire here. It's just it's

41:41

too difficult for people to use. It's not

41:43

gonna happen, so no mastodon. So

41:46

there are other options out there, Jason. Yeah. I

41:48

tried Hive Social yesterday. Hive

41:50

Social is written by two college

41:52

students. And for what they

41:54

I mean, for what they've you know,

41:56

put into it. It's pretty decent. They've got a couple people on. They got a little

41:58

bit of money in now.

41:59

Mhmm. But, I mean, this came out a

42:01

while back. I think

42:04

it hit In twenty twenty one,

42:06

in February, I believe if memory serves,

42:08

they hit number one on the app store for

42:10

downloads. Mhmm. It

42:12

is garbage. it does not work. It been not

42:14

expect to scale this fast.

42:16

And it it does not

42:18

load. There's a lot of dicks

42:22

a lot of dicks on it that just come through the main feed.

42:24

Mhmm. I you know, I think that

42:26

is a sign of a healthy new network when

42:29

there's porn involved. But I

42:32

just I I would like, you know, the

42:34

no hotdog filter, please.

42:36

Yeah. On the on the main

42:38

discover page, when you just go in and

42:40

it's just like a series of cocks, the hotdog or not API plugged

42:42

into that -- Yeah. -- seriously, you

42:44

know, seriously. I just yeah. Just

42:47

Yeah. Okay. Yes. Dicks no. Alright.

42:50

You yes. You need

42:52

the male SIS version of that stuff.

42:55

I I gave post a try. Post is

42:57

gaining some traction, particularly among the

43:00

journalists that I follow on Twitter. A lot of them are

43:02

going over there. waitlist,

43:04

you know, again, the the big the hard

43:06

part about social media is scaling. And

43:08

so when you get your first hit,

43:11

that becomes problematic. It it's very Twitter

43:14

esque. It looks like Twitter

43:16

except, you know, absolutely

43:18

zero design. New York

43:20

Times fonts, that sort of stuff.

43:22

It's it's very journal. Seems okay.

43:24

I got through the waitlist in, like, three

43:26

or four days signed up, but it's basically

43:28

full of posts saying, it's my first

43:31

post. Now what? And absolutely none

43:33

of my friends and contacts are on

43:35

on it at all. just some

43:37

journalists that I follow on Twitter that have gone over

43:39

there. So I'll keep my eye on it. I'm

43:41

not gonna load it very often, but

43:44

it's there. Okay. Yeah. I'm on the waitlist. I'm, like, ninety five

43:46

thousand in line on the waitlist. So Yeah. It

43:48

seems fine. Like, if enough

43:50

people go, if they get critical mass and

43:52

they can

43:54

scale, I could see this being a replacement Twitter. We'll see.

43:56

We'd be remiss in not

43:58

mentioning Pine, done by a friend of

44:00

the show Trent Hamilton. This is

44:03

an Instagram replacement. And if you know

44:05

Trent at all, basically,

44:08

he's

44:08

rude. I think would

44:09

be a good way to place

44:11

say it, rough

44:14

around the edges. But he is

44:16

promising, you know, we're not collecting any

44:18

data. We're not selling any data. None

44:20

of that shit's never gonna happen.

44:22

Geeks Yeah. Again, I'm not

44:24

I'm not a big photo guy

44:27

anyways. So a photo specific

44:29

social network isn't too big of a

44:31

deal for me, but he's doing a good job with

44:33

it. He's rolling out updates. He's certainly working hard

44:36

on it. Yeah. No. I talked to him on Instagram about this. I owe

44:38

him a, basically, a deep

44:40

dive on it. Oh. Just because

44:42

I was gonna go through his onboarding process

44:45

Geeks work. There's some things that

44:47

definitely need a lot of work on it. So Trent, I owe you a thing, but I was

44:49

sick all week. Thanks to the other

44:51

thing that we talked about at the beginning of the show.

44:53

But, hey, Claritin. So now

44:55

I can get But -- I've got it

44:57

down there. -- no posts no posts have been

45:00

made yet, but it it's nice. I'm sure I

45:02

posted I posted one thing on

45:04

there, but you

45:06

know, he he changed my username. So I because he because when you

45:08

sign in, you can only get it's four

45:10

character usernames. So I'm like,

45:14

Come on. Look a brother up. So I'm JPD on pine.

45:16

Probably the only three letter username on

45:18

pine. And there's also

45:20

hate cafe, which is which was

45:23

created by our buddy, Anthony Lee, from node

45:25

host CoHost. -- which is it's

45:27

it's nice. It's it's getting there. You know,

45:29

he's working on it. Yeah. I was

45:31

working on it too. Again, the problem for me and sorry everybody about

45:33

this is my friends aren't there. And I

45:36

don't know how to get them

45:38

over because Jason

45:40

and I are early adopters, and we're

45:42

dumb. And we go and sign up

45:44

for new things

45:46

like Ella. but my friends don't. Which is still alive, by the

45:48

way. Yeah. After all

45:50

of our J0K it's still it's still standing.

45:52

We can still get a shirt and go

45:54

back. Yeah.

45:56

because I'm not going to Mastodon. I'm not

45:58

but here's the thing. All of all of these

46:00

new services, what they're really teaching

46:04

me is, I just don't need social media. I think that's the

46:06

lesson I'm learning too. It's like,

46:08

yeah, I'm okay with

46:09

just nothing. I don't

46:10

I

46:11

don't need Twitter replacement.

46:13

Yeah. I'd rather hang out

46:15

in real life and get my job

46:17

done early and stop dicking around, seeing

46:19

how many likes I got or posting pictures

46:21

or whatever. I'm just like, I text

46:23

pictures to my friends now.

46:26

And, yeah, I'm taking

46:28

premiere classes, so I can learn how to

46:30

edit video. Mhmm. Because instead

46:32

of doing doing all the other crap. I'm,

46:34

like, actually getting back into the creative side of things. So Awesome. I'm

46:36

yeah. I'm just, like, I'm kinda done

46:39

with it at this point.

46:41

I don't really care that much. I'll I'll

46:43

pop into Twitter every here and there,

46:45

but, like, I've seen a

46:47

definite lag in Well, there's

46:50

almost nobody posting in my my thread anymore

46:52

because everybody's skied out old. And

46:54

when I get likes, it takes them, like, it's

46:56

we're I'm starting to see the cracks in the

46:58

infrastructure show up, you know. Likes are starting to show up way

47:00

late and things like that. so.

47:03

Right. I think it I think it's starting to strain because

47:05

when Elon said that they were getting twenty thousand

47:07

tweets a second during the World Cup and it was

47:09

still staying up, I'm like, Good

47:12

luck. Yeah. The the faster the

47:14

faster people tweet, the faster that thing is

47:16

gonna break. Yeah. Yeah. I they're

47:18

definitely throttling stuff. They're definitely hosts

47:20

aren't making it through specifically with the

47:22

World Cup. I expected to see a lot more

47:24

World Cup stuff in my feed. I'm not,

47:27

which is weird. Yeah. Who knows. Circling back

47:29

to your Dystopia, I I saw this

47:32

article and my

47:34

job dropped. Rule

47:36

number one Grumpy mythbusters

47:38

was let's not put weapons

47:40

in the hand of robots.

47:42

Mhmm. The San Francisco Police Department is currently petitioning the

47:45

city's board's supervisors for permission to

47:47

deploy robots to kill suspects that

47:49

law enforcement deems a

47:52

efficient threat that the risk of loss of life to members

47:54

of the public or officers is imminent and outweighs

47:56

any other force option available to the San

47:59

Francisco Police Department. So yes, they are seeking

48:01

permission for robots to have deadly force. Having never

48:04

seen any sci fi movie

48:06

ever. Yeah.

48:08

yeah I

48:09

got I got there's one episode of Black Mirror. I can point

48:11

them to it that will just totally change their

48:13

mind. So Yeah. But so Obviously,

48:16

some people have come out and said

48:18

that a whole hang on a second. That's

48:20

a really fucking stupid idea, but they're definitely pushing for it. So Well,

48:22

didn't Oakland try and do this already

48:24

too?

48:26

Yeah. Yeah.

48:27

Yeah. Can can we get robots that

48:29

can just pick up Man poo? I'll get

48:32

what we find. I will say at this

48:34

point if our police officers are

48:36

as good as the ones in

48:38

Texas that did not

48:40

go into the school, maybe we do need to

48:42

arm a fucking robot. Because if you're

48:44

doing your goddamn job,

48:48

yep. Yep. Yeah. Well,

48:50

what are you gonna do?

48:52

Does dopey hate?

48:55

Finally, just a short story.

48:57

Well, not a short story. This is a very

48:59

long article. Barrett sent this over.

49:01

Amazon Alexa is a colossal failure on pace

49:03

to lose ten billion dollars this

49:06

year. So I went through all of this and

49:08

basically they have not figured out how

49:10

to monetize voice assistance. And it's not just Amazon that's having this

49:12

problem. Everybody is having this problem

49:14

because it's a voice assistant and

49:16

it's not a fountain of

49:18

eternal money.

49:20

It is a helpful small thing that is great. We

49:22

discovered that most people are just using

49:24

their devices to play music. No

49:28

shit.

49:28

shit And it's

49:29

great at that. And we ask Kitchen

49:32

timers. Kitchen timers --

49:34

Yeah. -- weather reports, things that

49:36

you would use a voice

49:38

assisted for. It is a great voice assistant. What you expecting

49:40

from this?

49:42

I I still go back to the original Alexa

49:46

commercial. where where the stupid dad

49:48

goes, Alexa, how many

49:50

teaspoons in a tablespoon? I just screamed at

49:52

the screen at the

49:54

TV. Three. dumbass.

49:56

Should have taken home ec in high

50:00

school. Yeah. Everybody knows too busy

50:02

ducking out of their chairs because of an arm shooter

50:04

going through the school. So I missed all

50:06

of that versions. Yeah.

50:08

Okay. Anyways, so I just

50:11

I I read this article. I scratched my

50:13

head and I was like, We're getting a billion interactions

50:15

a week, but most of those conversations were trivial commands to play

50:17

music or ask about whether

50:19

they're not monetizable. Yeah.

50:22

That's the product you make.

50:24

Yeah. It's an add on.

50:26

It's, you know, very convenient. It's

50:28

very nice. I like it a lot. Don't

50:30

kill them. Just stop expecting them to make you

50:33

billions of dollars. Yeah. I know

50:35

they wanted everybody to shop. through

50:37

their Alexa. But nobody wants to shop that

50:40

way. Nobody trusts it. I wanna

50:42

see I wanna see the list of

50:44

where it's going. I wanna see when it's

50:46

gonna be delivered. I wanna I wanna

50:48

know everything about where that where my money

50:50

is going to. You know? It's

50:52

like, I need to know every single

50:54

detail about who's getting what? Because I'm like, what address are you sending What's

50:56

the default address? You know, no.

50:58

No. No. No. No. No. But

51:02

for the

51:03

most part, you know, okay, it's fine for what

51:05

it did, but yeah, you're

51:06

not gonna look, Alexa

51:09

two was perfect. The Alexa two,

51:12

the the trash can

51:14

was the best one they ever made. It sounded

51:16

the best. It worked

51:17

the best. It had the best microphones. And

51:19

ever since then, they've just been fucking it up. So

51:21

what do you expect? Well, and they've been doing

51:23

they've been doing tech you know,

51:25

tech two point o tactics, which is let's price them so low

51:27

and flood the market.

51:30

While Apple Now admittedly,

51:32

Siri is the worst at a lot. Right? But they've

51:34

done it correctly. They priced

51:36

their stuff high. Mhmm.

51:38

Plus they baked it into everything else that you

51:40

were buying anyways. It's on your watch. It's on

51:42

your phone. It's on your laptop. All the

51:44

stuff that you're gonna buy anyways, baked

51:46

in. And if you want the little speaker

51:48

system too, We priced it to

51:50

we we priced it high enough that we're not

51:52

losing money on it. Yep. Done.

51:54

Now if only their stupid assistant worked

51:56

as well as the other ones, Yeah. Well,

51:59

can't have everything,

52:00

everything cameo can you? Nope.

52:05

security

52:08

Security. Brian, I saw

52:10

this

52:10

next story and it

52:12

just it just made me happy. husband

52:15

lord wife for a selfie on cliff edge before killing her. Now

52:17

it may need to be delve into

52:19

why

52:19

this makes you

52:22

happy. it makes me happy

52:24

because this dumbass got caught. Oh,

52:26

well, that's Not got a problem. got

52:28

life in jail. So -- Okay. -- that's

52:30

why it makes me happy. Yeah. it

52:33

was just it it this happened in Turkey. It just

52:35

happened a while ago, and I think we

52:37

actually covered it when it when it

52:39

first happened. Mhmm. because I

52:41

I think back then we didn't know it was a crime

52:44

and then we found there was some video that

52:46

somebody else was taking up the hill

52:48

because what you have to remember is everywhere

52:50

at all times, you're gonna be on camera

52:52

no matter what. So somebody else

52:54

caught this guy taking his wife down, taking the

52:56

pictures, and just throwing her ass off a cliff.

52:59

Well, so there's

53:02

that. The funny part about this

53:04

article, it it it it

53:06

you know, I say funny.

53:08

because funny, Sean. Well, Sean and Freud. A

53:10

little bit of Sean and Freud going on

53:13

here. because I got this

53:15

article off a petapixel and

53:17

they say earlier this month, petapixel reported that

53:19

more people in Australia are dying

53:21

after accidentally falling from

53:23

cliffs in x experts believe the rise of selfies are behind the

53:25

growing trend. The data has raised

53:28

fears that more Australians are risking their

53:30

lives to take daredevil photographs for

53:32

social media. calling

53:34

the herd is what we call that. That's

53:36

what we call calling the herd. Yeah. So,

53:38

like, you know Yeah. Yeah. Like,

53:41

look, I don't have any particular fear of

53:43

heights. I do have a fear of falling. Yeah. I know.

53:45

I have a fear of landing. That's

53:47

my problem. I have a fear

53:49

of landing. So I

53:51

not be taking any of these photos. And, yes, if you

53:54

were if you were doing this dumb stuff to for

53:56

the for the lows and the likes, well,

53:59

fair fair enough. See you later. Yeah.

54:01

I mean, there's a reason that I skated street

54:03

instead of hurt, you know? because I like

54:05

being on the ground. Yeah. Oh, no. So,

54:07

yeah, I just thought it was I thought it was interesting. This

54:09

guy this guy finally got caught

54:12

and is going to jail for the rest of

54:14

his life.

54:16

Well, there you go. Alright. Well, I guess, without Dave

54:18

here, we'll actually do some security stuff. We're we're

54:20

not even gonna get into all of our thanksgiving talk,

54:24

but I know. We were we had all big planned, but yeah. No

54:26

bitterness. Oh, so you're right. Actually, you know what?

54:28

I do remember Dave said he wasn't gonna be here.

54:30

There's a big the Thanksgiving family

54:32

stuff that he's doing. Oh,

54:34

okay. Well, yeah. Oh, well,

54:37

there

54:37

you go. Alright. Well, you

54:39

wanna talk about Andor? It's

54:42

great ending, man. I loved

54:44

it. That was fantastic ending. I'm here

54:47

for season two. Me too. Me

54:49

too. And, you know, we knew that they were building parts

54:51

for the Duster. Of course, they were. It's a

54:53

full circle. Makes sense. Yep.

54:56

Yep. So Alright. Coats loose that

54:58

risk are challenging Apple's wanted focus

55:00

on privacy. They are claiming that the Apple's

55:02

anonymous usage data for some in house apps

55:04

includes a directory

55:06

services identifier uniquely linked to your Apple ID and iCloud data, so Apple

55:08

could potentially use this to pinpoint your App

55:10

Store browsing habits according

55:12

to MISC. seemingly

55:14

contradicts Apple's assertion that none of its data is

55:16

personally identifying and appears to extend to

55:18

iOS sixteen. This feels

55:20

a bit nothing burger

55:22

to me. It feels a lot nothing burger to me.

55:24

Okay. So, yeah, they can

55:26

if they wanted to, they could tell

55:28

what I'm looking at on the App

55:32

Store which they could probably tell anyway They could do

55:34

anyway. Yeah. If I download

55:36

or

55:37

purchase them. Right? Yeah.

55:39

No. That's what I'm saying. This makes no sense.

55:41

It's like yeah.

55:43

Okay. Of

55:45

course, they can. Of course, they can.

55:47

I've another story course, they can.

55:50

Yeah. I think the I think the thing about Apple

55:52

is that they don't share that data with

55:55

other app owners. That's the whole point of the do

55:57

not track, you know, in the

55:59

apps. But, yeah, this is all

56:01

we're all this is all

56:03

going on faith. you know, you click a button

56:04

and you just have faith that they're not gonna do

56:06

the things they say they're gonna do. Brian, you

56:08

and I have built things

56:10

where -- Mhmm. -- we

56:12

the the powers that b may have lied to the

56:14

public and still collected the data and

56:16

used the data. So not of

56:19

what you speak, Jason. I

56:21

was not involved in those

56:24

decisions. We were not involved in those decisions,

56:26

but we probably may have been involved in the

56:28

code that created the back and to do them. At

56:30

least I know I was, but --

56:32

Yes. -- yes. I I stated my grievances,

56:34

but I We were the ones in the meeting going. You were

56:36

not supposed to

56:38

do that. Yeah. And they're like,

56:40

well, Joe over here will do it. Do you wanna do it?

56:42

Or do you want Joe to do it? Because I need to

56:44

pay my

56:46

I'll do it. That's exactly it.

56:48

Oh. Oh, there's By the

56:50

way, I just wanna I wanna circle back to

56:52

one thing we didn't talk about with

56:54

the the Twitter fiasco in all of the engineers. Somebody made

56:57

a really good point about why a

56:59

lot of those engineers stayed.

57:02

Their visas their visas Yep.

57:04

Because if they quit, they're basically gonna get deported. If they can't

57:06

get another job in, like, ninety to a hundred

57:08

and twenty days. Yeah. So they're

57:11

basically, you know, indentured

57:14

servants to Elon at this point if

57:16

they can't find another job. Yeah. So

57:18

that there's another angle to that,

57:20

which I thought was fairly interesting that people

57:22

aren't really following. So Yeah. Yeah.

57:25

Yeah. Okay. What do we got next? Well,

57:27

I'll talk about just clicking

57:29

a button and kind of hoping for the best and that

57:31

people aren't doing what they're not supposed to be doing

57:33

with the the buttons that have

57:36

been clicked. We've talked about this before.

57:38

It's gotten a little bit worse. Tax prep websites have been sending

57:40

sensitive but virtual data to Facebook.

57:44

Yes. And this is all done through Pixel. Pixel

57:46

is a wonderful tool that is supposed

57:48

to be restricted greatly. It only sends

57:50

certain information, but actually works like

57:54

a save. Yeah. Like

57:54

I just said, it's all it's all a bay it's all

57:56

everything's based on trust. Trust. And

57:59

sometimes

57:59

just

57:59

because tax prep services

58:02

put Facebook pixels on their site because

58:04

Facebook told them this is a great way to get

58:06

your demographics and get all your

58:08

statistics and know who's using

58:10

your site. They sometimes passed on income data, filing

58:12

statuses, and even kids college tuition

58:14

grants to

58:16

Facebook.

58:17

Yep. Yeah.

58:18

Especially if

58:19

these query strings, which, you

58:22

know, anybody nowadays shouldn't, but this is

58:24

a tax prep you know,

58:26

website. So I'm guessing that

58:28

these guys aren't the the hobbyist on the back end

58:30

as far as the website stuff goes. It may

58:32

still have query strings that have potential

58:34

data in them that can get passed along with that

58:36

tracking pixel. Yes. And meta

58:38

rightly or wrongly, and I suppose

58:40

when we could say rightly, we'll say, well,

58:42

you're not you're not implementing the tool correctly and causing a

58:44

problem and you're not supposed to be including these

58:46

query strings and you're not supposed to have it

58:48

beyond login pages and you're not supposed to

58:50

have it So

58:52

whose fault is it? I would argue fifty

58:55

fifty. Yep. That's where I'm gonna

58:57

go at. The tool's too damn powerful to

58:59

begin with. It should never have

59:02

been able do all the things that it's it it can do,

59:04

should never been able to pass all the information

59:06

back and forth that is capable of passing

59:08

back and

59:10

forth. And it's also on the people that built these

59:12

sites for these tax and

59:15

everybody, you didn't read

59:17

the fucking manual.

59:19

yeah Yeah. Yeah.

59:20

It is funny

59:21

because, like, twenty years ago, I built

59:23

blog rolling dot com.

59:26

That

59:26

had you

59:27

know, a JavaScript embed in it.

59:29

Mhmm. And that gave even

59:31

even before that, even I knew the tracking pixel

59:33

because you get all of the HTTP request data, which gives

59:35

you IP address, browser, all sorts of

59:38

stuff. And then as soon as I put in JavaScript,

59:40

I'm like,

59:42

Holy shit. The data that I got

59:44

was just ridiculous. I could follow

59:46

everybody and I'm like, this is not good.

59:48

This is not good. So I purposely

59:52

being an ethical programmer did not track any

59:54

of that stuff, you know,

59:56

because you shouldn't. But the fact

59:58

that you get it is out of

59:59

your control.

1:00:00

That's one of the things. It is completely out

1:00:02

of your control because it comes in the

1:00:04

HTTP request header -- Yeah. -- because you need to

1:00:07

be able to send data back to that person so you

1:00:09

have to know their IP address. You

1:00:11

have to know what they're doing and all this other stuff. I have to know

1:00:13

your kids tax status. You know, it's it it is half and

1:00:15

half because Facebook should I'm

1:00:18

sorry, Noda, should not

1:00:20

be doing anything with that data. It should have

1:00:22

been, you know, dumped on the

1:00:24

floor. Yep. It's meta. Do we think that that

1:00:26

data is dumped on the floor? Wow.

1:00:28

No. Everything's in the

1:00:30

slaughter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:32

And this just gets us to the next one,

1:00:34

which is Metamask is going to start collecting

1:00:36

user IP addresses and Ethereum wallet

1:00:39

addresses. And this

1:00:41

is just because there's

1:00:44

a new, basically, terms of service update from

1:00:46

the company that owns Metamask that says,

1:00:48

hey, yeah, we're just gonna we're gonna tell

1:00:51

you about this now even though

1:00:53

it's It's one of things that they get the data, and

1:00:55

everybody's like, Howard's this to

1:00:58

Centralize. And at least the smart

1:01:00

people are saying, Decentralization

1:01:02

and privacy are two different fucking

1:01:04

things guys. Not the same.

1:01:06

Not the same at all.

1:01:08

Not even close No. Decentralized means

1:01:10

even more people can get your data.

1:01:12

Means everybody can. It's

1:01:14

called the blockchain. Everybody can look

1:01:16

at it with the blockchain. with

1:01:18

all your information right there. Yeah. Whatever you get them

1:01:20

goes

1:01:20

right in there. Yeah. And, honestly,

1:01:23

I would I would like Metamask to

1:01:25

collect the user IP addresses attached

1:01:28

those Ethereum wallets because at least you have some recourse. If

1:01:30

somebody is stealing your shit, you at

1:01:32

least know where to start looking. where

1:01:35

you can start your investigation if somebody takes

1:01:38

your your board fucking squirrel in

1:01:40

FT. You know? You need somewhere to

1:01:42

go. So the fact that they're tracking

1:01:44

that is a benefit for you the user. So shut the

1:01:46

fuck up. And if you really

1:01:48

care, G0G dot show

1:01:50

slash VPN. Yeah.

1:01:52

I still get at least maybe to one

1:01:55

email

1:01:55

a day about my men at mask at

1:01:57

wallet, and I need to click on this link to take

1:01:59

care of it. I've never ever

1:02:02

opened a Metamask wallet. Don't? No. Yeah.

1:02:04

No. No. I I still

1:02:06

have my Metamask wallet because I have

1:02:09

that two hundred and fifty dollars in Ethereum I bought

1:02:11

to do the first NFT project that I

1:02:13

just didn't give a shit about. So it's been

1:02:16

sitting there losing value. I think I'm at a hundred and

1:02:18

twenty dollars now. So Alright.

1:02:20

Yeah. Yay. Crypto.

1:02:23

Adobe.

1:02:25

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