In episode 72 we welcome Brian Wampler to discuss pedals, the MI industry in general, and goats. We start of with a NGD as Andy shows us his new old Fender Vintage Hot Rod Strat, we dive into the business talk as Brian elaborates why the current circumstances make it almost no more profitable to build a $199 pedal in the US. We also exchange thoughts on why Josh Scott is the root of all the pedal hype in the industry at the moment and we learn why goats are like dogs and should not be milked. Enjoy!