Welcome to episode XXV of Guns, Dice, Butter: a series of conversations with members of the wargaming tribe.

0:00: Opening and episode preview

0:07: Fran Diaz, Game Designer, Polis

0:58: Esteemed historian, author and storyteller Adrian Goldsworthy and game designer extraordinaire Mark Herman discuss Rome and what not

2:08: Mark Herman and Pericles

2:49: Episode wrap up

Episode references:

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/151903/ancients-wargames-glory-was-greece-and-grandeur-wa 

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1545400/prancing-peloponnese-1st-mn-gives-polis-punt-some 

New to wargaming? Consult this: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/206813/wargame-grasshopper-noob-rookie-padawan-list 

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