In this episode I am once again joined by Dr Chencho Dorji, Bhutan’s first psychiatrist and the Professor of Psychiatry at Khesar Gyalpo University of Medical Sciences.

Dr Dorji reveals the challenges he faced establishing modern psychiatrist in Bhutan, a culture heavily invested in a supernatural model of mental illness. He recounts stories of patients possessed by ghosts, local avatars of Shiva, reincarnations of Padmasambhava and more.

Dr Dorji explains the role of religion and superstition in stigmatising mental illness, and considers whether shamanistic rituals and other traditional healing methods can co-exist with modern medical practices.

Dr Dorji also warns that mental illness in general, and borderline personality disorder in particular, is on the rise on Bhutan and shares his vision for a greater collaboration between modern medicine, the clergy, shamans, and Sowa Rigpa healers.

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Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep245-padmasambhava-psychosis-dr-chencho-dorji-2

Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

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Topics include:

00:00 - Intro01:04 - Return to Bhutan to establish psychiatry 05:40 - Programme to train primary healthcare staff06:18 - Advocating for community based mental health services 10:38 - DANIDA funding and mental health survey 12:07 - Collaboration with and educating traditional healers13:47 - Locating and treating cases in remote communities 18:13 - What kinds of mental illness is commonly found in Bhutan? 19:29 - Challenges identifying depression21:16 - The stigma of epilepsy 22:50 - Community fear of contagion of mental illness26:55 - Culture of taboo and about mental illness in Bhutan29:00 - Impact of the pandemic30:29 - Using social media to educate 31:22 - Psychological first aid35:09 - Why is South Asian psychology and psychology training weak?37:41 - Mental health as a luxury for the rich40:40 - Borderline personality disorder encounters43:36 - Rise in cases of BPD in Bhutan45:05 - Social changes in Bhutan causing rise in mental illness49:10 - Chronic psychosis and social disturbance51:26 - Lack of compassion for BPD52:17 - Economic aspiration and the rat race 54:36 - Overlap and clash with religious professionals 56:21 - Buddhism and shamanism in Bhutan58:05 - Use of rituals in healing mental illness59:00 - Personal indifference towards Buddhism01:00:19 - Challenges engaging with Sowa Rigpa practitioners 01:02:39 - Educating Sowa Rigpa doctors about mental health01:03:34 - Do traditional healing modalities have a role in modern medicine?01:04:17 - Different kinds of monk01:05:41 - Religious control of the population01:07:33 - Difficulties communicating with clergy01:09:58 - Karma and the importance of openness01:10:56 - Navigating patients’ supernatural world views 01:14:42 - Example of a manic patient claiming to be Guru Rinpoche01:17:18 - Impact on families 01:18:05 - Cases of entity possession and mass hysteria01:24:38 - Possession by Lord Shiva 01:29:58 - Advice for working with traditional healers and shamans01:31:01 - Future challenges of mental health in Bhutan01:34:41 - Explosion of mental illness, obesity, and substance abuse01:35:43 - Neglect of the elderly01:37:31 - A model for the third world

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Previous episode with Dr Chencho Dorji:- https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep237-bhutans-first-psychiatrist-dr-chencho-dorji

To find out more about Dr Chencho Dorji, visit: - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057403100633


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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James